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Thursday, December 22, 2022

Constructor: David Steinberg

Relative difficulty: Easy, I think? Solved on paper, did not really look at the theme clues because they were long and I didn't feel like reading them, but it's pretty easy to notice that they all start with CARs coming in from the edges of the grid, and the crossings there are pretty fair, so you don't really need to the clues to solve, but it was an excellent aha moment post-solve when I could actually be arsed to read them and figure out the theme


THEME: ROUNDABOUT ROUTE — four entries are clued as if they are cars entering roundabouts, with three total clues: one for turning right, one for continuing straight, and one for turning left; in all cases the cars enter from the edge of the grid (and turns are oriented w/r/t that), and all turns result in valid entries both with and without the CAR (in some cases with the second part being backwards relative to the direction of the CAR word)

Word of the Day: TED (31D: California congressman ___ Lieu) —
Ted W. Lieu is an American politician and Air Force Reserve Command colonel who has represented California's 33rd congressional district in the U.S. House of Representatives since 2015. The district includes much of western and west Valley Los Angeles, as well as Beverly Hills, Santa Monica, Bel Air, Calabasas, Agoura Hills, the Palos Verdes Peninsula and Beach Cities.
A member of the Democratic Party, Lieu is one of 18 members of Congress who are naturalized U.S. citizens. He represented the 28th district in the California State Senate from 2011 to 2014, after being elected to fill the seat of deceased Senator Jenny Oropeza. From 2005 to 2010 he was a California State Assemblyman, representing the 53rd district, after being elected to fill the seat of deceased Assemblyman Mike Gordon.
Lieu actively served in the United States Air Force Judge Advocate General's Corps from 1995 to 1999 and since 2000 has served in the Air Force Reserve Command with his current rank of colonel upon his promotion in 2015. House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi appointed Lieu Assistant whip of the 115th Congress in 2017.
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It's me, hi, I'm the problem, it's me. Christopher Adams here filling in for Rex while he may or may not be in wi-fi purgatory***; fingers crossed that this post doesn't interrupt his vacation like, uh, the last one did.

**Rex says, via wi-fi non-purgatory: "Dear Nora, your friends Mellie & Hilary (and I) want to wish you a very happy 21st birthday 🥳 🎉 🎂 I’m so glad you enjoy the blog, and I hope this blog birthday greeting from weirdo me (currently somewhere in central Otago, NZ) is as meaningful as your friends imagine. Have a wonderful day!"

Very glad that Rex is not in wi-fi purgatory, very glad to be able to relay (and second) the happy birthday greetings, and very glad to have this opportunity to apologize for parts of last Thursday's review, and especially the profanity and ad hominem stuff; that's 100% on me, and I should know better, but at the same time I was very much not in a mood to engage or spend time with a puzzle that (Roger Ebert voice) I hated, hated, hated, and ended up venting a bit too much; again, my sincerest, deepest apologies for that.

(I would also like to not take up too much time on that and get to today's puzzle, because the longer this intro goes, the more this becomes a recipe website where you have to go through five thousand or so words of family history before finding a fifty word recipe that's not as unique or as interesting as the food blogger thinks it is. ANYWAY, again, there's a lot of great puzzles out there, and I try to not solve ones that I don't enjoy. Which is not to say that I hate all NYT puzzles; I just generally don't solve the NYT unless it's by a constructor I know and enjoy (which is today's puzzle!), or if I hear from trusted friends that it's a good puzzle; recent puzzles I liked included Sid's themeless from the 10th and Ryan's Sunday themeless on the 18th.)

On to this puzzle! TL;DR I liked it! A lot! (More below the theme explanation!)

Theme answers:
  • 26A: First exit: Milk containers · Second exit: Rebounded, in billiard · Third exit: Wheeled (away) [CARTONS / CAROMED / CARTED, w/ CAR going into SNOT, DEMO, TED as appropriate]
  • 54A: First exit: Salad bar bowlful · Second exit: French watchmaker · Third exit: Thanksgiving role [CARROTS / CARTIER / CARVER, using ROTS, TIER, REV]
  • 5D: First exit: Floor covers · Second exit: Addition signs · Third exit: Checking the IDs of [CARPETS / CARETS / CARDING, using STEP, ETS, DING]
  • 66D: First exit: Writer Lewis · Second exit: Santana of Santana · Third exit: Dead meat [CARROLL / CARLOS / CARRION, using ROLL, SOL, and NOIR]
It's not terribly difficult to find words that become other words when you remove some letters; it's not terribly difficult, either, to find words that become other words when they're spelled backwards. And there's some flexibility here: since they all start with CAR, the ending parts can go anywhere where they're in the right direction (e.g. STEP could go at 19A, where it is, or 61A, but not at 20A). But: having four of them intersecting the (grid-spanning) revealer in symmetric spots, while accounting for all of the above? Now that's some good construction (and, perhaps, a bit of luck; you can't move the black squares that function as roundabouts around too much, but at the same time, when you're as talented and experienced as David is, sometimes you make your own luck). (I will quibble a little bit and say that I would've liked the NW and SE roundabouts to be visually set apart and not touch other black squares, even diagonally, but that's perhaps asking a bit too much here.)

update: David says in his XWI notes that getting the revealer to "run through the four thematic arrangements might just top the list of lucky moments in my crossword construction career", but I still think that there's still a fair bit of skill involved. I also wouldn't be disappointed if this was a Wednesday, like he thought this might be because he clued all the roundabout exits [which, again, were normal words] rather than leaving them unclued, but like David, I'm very happy to see this published period, and especially on a Thursday (and doubly so on a day I blog!).

Anyway, fun theme! A lot better than last week! Heck, even if I didn't like this, I still would've liked it more than last week, because it's at least trying to do something fun and inventive. (To be fair, I probably would've disliked last week's theme less if it were, say, on a Tuesday instead of a Thursday, but still...) And outside of that, there's some legit fun clues: the image of [What smoke coming out of the ears may signal in a cartoon] (ANGER), the "TIL interesting fact" of [Name derived from the Greek for "messenger"] (ANGELINA), the "tricky but fair" clue for CARETS (see below), plus fun fill like SANTA HAT, FROSH, AMBROSIA, etc.

c'mon, what else could the video be?

ROUNDABOUT (ARC)TANGENT: As a driver, I love roundabouts. As a pedestrian and (especially) a runner, not as much of a fan; I've noticed that at most intersections here in Iowa City where they've replaced stop signs / lights with roundabouts recently, it's a lot harder to cross the street because cars just don't slow down. At least with stop signs and lights, you know (well, at least hope) that cars will stop, and to some degree you can continue safely through the intersection without really stopping. But with roundabouts, cars don't even stop, let alone slow down, and the thought of them even thinking about looking for pedestrians is a pipe dream. ROUNDABOUT (ARC)TANGENT OVER.

Anyway, good puzzle! It's one I would've solved anyway, because I generally like David's puzzles (and know that if it's a Thursday, it's probably really creative), and I'm glad it's also on a day I'm blogging. More fun that way.

Olio:
  • CARETS [5D: Addition signs] — As a math person, my first thought here was that this was a mistake; carets are usually used for exponentiation. Realized, after a bit, that this is referring to copyediting / proofreading, where carets are used to signal additions to the text
  • THE [71A: French beverage] — Sure, I guess; not a fan of this angle, and it's not like you're avoiding dupes with clues here (because there's quite a few instances of "the" in the clues elsewhere). Would've liked this more if it'd've leaned into that and clued it as [The most common word in the English language, or in the clue for this answer], or if the next clue ([Chinwags], for CHATS) had continued the trend with [French pets] or something
  • ROSIE [66A: Funny O'Donnell] — [citation needed] (at least, not recently, and it's not like you're hurting for other clue angles here)
  • TRIO [52A: Hip-hop's Salt-N-Pepa, contrary to what their name suggest] — on the one hand, yes, DJ Spinderella was absolutely a vital member of that group in their heyday; on the other hand, iirc, she hasn't been part of the group for a few years now, and so it technically isn't a trio right now? FWIW, I like the cluing angle, and think it works, but might've been better to pick a different act (Tony Orlando and Dawn, anybody?) [ETA: apparently this is a print-only clue, possibly for these reasons; the online clue is [The Powerpuff Girls, e.g.] which avoids these issues.]
  • ETS [23D: "We come in peace" speakers, in brief] — no no no no no no no no; the only valid cluing angles here, imo, are the lawful good and maybe the lawful neutral ones on this chart
  • LATIN I [50D: Course in which you might learn "cave canem" — One of the few answers I had to erase, in that I knew the answer in that area was longer than five letters, and so I jumped straight to AP LATI..and whoops, that doesn't fit. Meh on the I, but it's fair, I suppose. ["Cave canem" is "beware of dog", btw.]
  • TAR [35A: Dinosaur bone preserver] — We would also have accepted [2022 film starring Cate Blanchett]
Yours in puzzling, Christopher Adams, Court Jester of CrossWorld

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126 comments:

jae 2:17 AM  



Mostly easy except for the SE where I confused my exits, was iffy on ASICS, and took a while to see FROSH and DERELICT. Very clever a fun to suss out, liked it a bunch!


Speaking of Thursday puzzles, I’ve been slowly working my way through the NYT Archives solving the late week puzzles. I’ve recently completed all the Fri. and Sat. puzzles and have begun doing Thursday puzzles starting in 1994 when Shortz took the reins. I’m up to April and I have had more DNFs in the first 4 months of 1994 than I’ve had in the last 2 or 3 years. So far there have been no “rebus” puzzles (in quotes out of respect to @Anoa Bob) but there have been a few quip/quote type puzzles. There’s a lot of fairly obscure PPP but not many wordplay or “?” type clues. My best guess is that Shortz was burning off some puzzles from the Maleska era, but I could be wrong? Anyway, if you are looking for some very tough (but not necessarily fair) Thursday puzzles, check out early 1994.

Melrose 2:23 AM  

Finished it without grokking the theme until I saw the write up. Very clever, but I would never have seen this on my own.

Anonymous 2:41 AM  

Seems you took the feedback to heart. Good on you.

Anonymous 2:51 AM  

52A was clued as "The Powerpuff Girls, e.g." in the app, not Salt-N-Pepa.

Breakfast Tester 3:03 AM  


Too much booze last time, too much caffeine this time? 😁

I definitely would have preferred the 3 roundabout exits to be otherwise unclued each time, i.e., with " – " as the clue for all of them, and then being able to savor the fact that all could have been clued, yielding legitimate grid entries.

Don't know about everyone else but my puzzle had [52A: The Powerpuff Girls, e.g.], although I do like the trio-masquerading-as-a-duo cluing angle.

Ann Howell 3:32 AM  

Solved it without quite grasping the theme until the end, when the theme answers had all been filled in by crosses. So, agree with Chris - it was a neat "a-ha" afterwards, but didn't really add to my solving experience too much. Otherwise a decent Thursday, perhaps slightly easier than usual.

Abigail 4:01 AM  

Excellent use of a Taylor Swift reference, 10/10, no notes. :)

Anonymous 4:07 AM  

just solved the puzzle at 4am ET (I'm not up that early I'm just in Europe currently). It looks like they changed the clue for 52A. It's now "The Powerpuff Girls, e.g." which is more accurate for TRIO

Anonymous 5:10 AM  

Online we got Power Puff girls for TRIO not salt-n-pepa

OffTheGrid 6:11 AM  

Maybe the worst Thursday in a very long time. Pretty much constructor masturbation.


(Interestingly, the captcha was CARs.)

Conrad 6:15 AM  


Like @Breakfast Tester, my 52A (in the NYT Web site) referenced the Powerpuff Girls too. Like @Ann Howell, I didn't get the theme until the very end and enjoyed the AHA.

SouthsideJohnny 6:57 AM  

I made the usual mess out of this cryptic-themed Medusa. Never groked the theme - saw roundabout and interpreted it as circuitous rather than the traffic island. I’m not sure if the orange dots would have helped - I don’t know if others had them, I used the NYT app - no dots.

Lots of ASSES recently and today we have a SNOT - the tweens over at the NYT editor’s desk could use some adult supervision.

Chris from LI 7:08 AM  

Glad I'm not the only one with the Powerpuff Girls clue.

Also, and obviously I'm a fan of Rex, it's very nice to discover I'm reading a blog from a math person *and* a Yes fan!

kitshef 7:12 AM  

I’m fairly certain that tar is not and never has been a preserver for dinosaur bones, and that this adds to the growing list of recent errors.

A truly brilliant theme with top-notch execution that alas took no part in the solve for me, other than slowing me down occasionally to think about it. Figuring it out actually came post-solve.

Wanderlust 7:14 AM  

This is a rarity - an incredible constructing feat that was also fun to solve, even if you don’t get the theme. I did get the theme, finally, about three quarters of the way in, and it actually helped me finish. I grokked it after finishing the SW ROUNDABOUT area. I went back and looked at the already finished NE and SE areas with a pleasurable Aha! But I didn’t have NW done, or the revealer (except for ROUTE and some random letters of the rest). Knowing the theme got me DING, ROUNDABOUT came into view, and I got all of its crosses that I didn’t have yet (and changed the incorrect eRaS to URLS - nice misdirect clue there). Done quickly.

But even apart from the theme, there were a lot of nice answers and clues. Too many clever clues to mention, but I’d highlight “one going to court” for LOVERS and “delivery specialist” for ORATOR (“why doesn’t OB/GYN fit?!?”)

I am proudly GODLESS, and the whole story of ISAAC explains part of the reason why. What kind of a megalomaniac ass would do that? And for what reason? Torturing a father and son just to satisfy yourself that Abraham is sufficiently obeisant? And aren’t you all-knowing? So you knew what he was going to do but you made him go through with it anyway? Jesus, I’m good with, but his dad was a real jerk.

Thanks for the good writeup and the apology, Christopher. For the record, I wasn’t offended by the profanity or the anti-vichyssoise rant but I was by the sneering insult to every person who usually enjoys the NYT x-word (which is almost all of us who read this blog).

And you are right about ROUNDABOUTs! They may be good for traffic but they are hell on pedestrians.

Anonymous 7:30 AM  

Mostly easy. For me, the cryptic theme amounted to no theme at all. Too clever.

J.W. 7:42 AM  

I had a similar experience with this one. Saw CAR going into several spots, eventually caught on they were entering from different angles, but was like "Car, roundabout, blah blah blah, let's just do the puzzle." Only afterward did I stop to really examine the concept, at which point I found it pretty cool. But I'm always a little bugged by themes that don't become apparent (to me; your mileage may vary) as I'm solving.

Suzy 7:49 AM  

Glad you are back. I enjoyed this puzzle, but the theme was an afterthought for me too.

Anonymous 7:53 AM  

Christopher: Redemptive post, son, though hard to forget the last (49D) one. Yea, as Pope reminded (Alexander, not The; definite article, not French beverage) : "...to forgive, divine."

Lewis 7:59 AM  

David the crossnerd, and I say this with love. Here I picture him driving out of a roundabout, and rather than thinking about where he’s going, flashing on the idea of putting roundabouts in a puzzle. And, probably, during the entire trip to his destination, working on the details. Then, the moment he gets home, running to his computer to get to work on it. Because, you see, even after more than a hundred NYT puzzles, even after looking over submissions and fine-tuning puzzles as editor of Universal Crosswords, which run every day, David is still excited by crosswords. That’s how I want to picture him, anyway – the true crossnerd, and again, I say this with love.

And he backs it up. OMG the skill it took to put this grid together, to figure out using CAR in the first place, then coming up with four roundabout iterations – symmetrical, mind you – and finding endings for CAR, including a good number of semordnilaps, then having a spanning reveal cut through all four of them? Really? Huh? He did this? And made a smooth grid that included a sky-high 71 theme squares? Yes, and masterfully.

But not to show off, is how I see it. Rather, to make for a fun experience for the solver, throwing in fun clues like [One going to court] and [Something to toss but not throw away], not to mention gorgeous words like AMBROSIA and DERELICT, and throwing in a Big Riddle in the first time a solver runs across one of those first-second-third-exit clues. Fun through and through.

I smiled when I saw David’s name on today’s puzzle because one of my favorite Thursdays of all time was his of 6/8/17. He puts in the work and he puts in the brilliance, as he did today. Thank you, David, for this beast of a puzzle.

Joaquin 8:01 AM  

Re: The puzzle - Too clever by half for me.

Re: The Write-up - TL;DR

Dr.A 8:03 AM  

I finished it but I’m embarrassed to say this was maybe the first time I was scratching my head at the theme. but glad to have this blog to explain it to me.

Doctor John 8:05 AM  

Thank you for your semi-apology. I was truly offended by your previous review. Might I suggest you never use the word "hate" in your future reviews. Love Mr. Steinberg's work.

Pamela 8:13 AM  

Here's a chuckle about Roundabouts in the UK (where I learned to drive while at Uni): Roundabouts have traditionally been used instead of traffic lights because the British believe they keep traffic moving more evenly. Starting about 20 years ago, in places where traffic volume had increased, they added a second circle to the first one (picture the outline of a Figure 8). Then more recently, in very heavy traffic areas, they installed multiple sets of traffic lights INSIDE these double circles. Howzat for urban planning? 🤔

Iris 8:15 AM  

Yawn. If I don’t need the theme to solve, I don’t want to be bothered with it. The cleverness is so, er, onanistic.

Anonymous 8:17 AM  

I wish they had gone a different way with the LATIN- entry. Last letter could have been A to give LATINA/SARS, or O to give LATINO/SORE/ROTE. LATIN I is just kind of bad. Theme was great, very enjoyable to figure out while solving.

Anonymous 8:20 AM  

@jberg here, writing on my phone. My first CAR was 54-A, and I was totally lost. Then I noticed CAR VER, which you can make 2 different ways, and I used loVER. Plus I couldn’t remember CARTIER for too long. But CARROTS improved my vision and I had the Aha!

Then I got to RAC, and finally it all made sense. 5-D had gone in from crosses, so I hadn’t seen the clue.

DEcrepit before DERELICT, GODdamn before GODLESS. And not knowing the Powerpuff Girls I thought they might be a Toon. All fixed. Wonderful puzzle, great clue for URLS.

Barbara S. 8:23 AM  

Hah, Chris Adams redeemed himself! Good man.

Wow, I thought this was one of those puzzles that was an astonishing feat of construction and also fun to solve (hi @Wanderlust and @Lewis). It took me a minute to see what was going on but I did grasp it during the solve, so got help with two of the four theme clusters. At the first themer, I was confused by the fact that reading down from CAR, you get CAR[black square]ETS, which suggested CARPETS – in the clue as “First exit: floor coverings” – which suggested that there might be a letters-hidden-by-black-squares theme. But since I couldn’t make the rest of the clue work with this idea, I abandoned it pretty quickly. But, yeah, kudos to the constructor for this winning combo of creativity and merriment.

Thanks to several years of Sunday School and several hundred Renaissance and Baroque paintings, I had no trouble with 1A. I didn’t know WANDA, but did get all the other acrosses in the NW corner, so that area was easy-breezy today. (Wasn’t Dapper DAN the brand of hair oil used by George Clooney in Oh Brother, Where Art Thou??) It was the NE corner that gave me a little more trouble because I was unfamiliar with SUNK COSTS. But the downs there were pretty easy, so no real hold-up. That was a surprisingly complimentary take on ARTSY [Creative, in a way], which usually gets saddled with a pretentious-snobbery-type clue. Did anyone watch ROSIE O’Donnell in American Gigolo? She wasn’t funny at all, but superb in a dramatic role as a homicide detective. She and Jon Bernthal were by far the best parts of a somewhat iffy series – their work was what kept me coming back.

Never got a chance yesterday to comment on @Nancy’s puzzle with its three takes on THE BIG DEAL. I liked all the themers, especially ROYAL FLUSH, because a card DEAL was a bit off the expected meaning of the word. I loved the wit of FWORDS and thought it, Swing ERA, LOVE at Wimbledon, OBIES, and the “writing dialogue” clue were so Nancy. Also, of course, CITY slicker and NYNY. More cleverness: [Hunter visible at night] = ORION, [It can prevent cracking] = LIP BALM, [Modify, as an article] = EDIT. Looking forward to future puzzles, @Nancy!

[SB: Tues, -2; Wed, 0. On Tuesday, I had no trouble with either of the words that @okanaganer and @TTrimble said challenged them. One of the words I missed is too embarrassing to mention, but if you really want to know, have a look at this person. The other word, more legitimately tricky, was this 5er.]

mambridge 8:29 AM  

Jump to Review.

Anonymous 8:29 AM  

The LaBrea tar pits are natural, well, tar pits chock full of preserved dinosaur and other animal bones.

Spatenau 8:31 AM  

@kitshef, The La Brea Tar Pits in California are a major excavation site for the bones of dinosaurs that fell into the naturally occurring tar pits there.

andrew 8:35 AM  

Wait, who is THIS “Christopher Adams”? What conversion therapy was he been subjected to in the past week? Like Alex’s in A Clockwork Orange? Randall’s in Cuckoo’s Nest?

He’s so gentlemanly (not meant as a sexist term) and genteel (not meant in a religious context. Can’t say anything that’s potentially offensive, as this week’s Christopher knows).

Enjoyed the dig at “funny” Rosie - citation needed. And the puzzle itself was clever though pretty easy (one of those that you fill quickly and look for the ARTSY theme after).

But whoa - Christopher lives in Iowa City? The heart of flyover country?? Is he a self-hating Iowan??? Next he’ll say he’s in his 70s after the ageist pokes of a week ago.

Anyway, welcome back CA - don’t think you’ll get 1/5th of the roughly 350 comments of last week but nonetheless a successful Adams Redemption!


T. Rex 8:38 AM  

@ kitshef (7:12 am)

This is not an error.

The clue does not say that tar is "used" as a preserver; it says that tar IS a preserver.

Think LaBrea Tar Pits. Fossils are preserved there because they have been encased in tar (formed from the oil into which the animals fell)). Because tar offers complete protection from the decomposing agent oxygen, the fossils have been preserved there for millennia.

Nancy 8:38 AM  

The theme clues were such gibberish to me that they might as well have been written in hieroglyphics -- but at some point along the way I saw that there were a few CARs going in the wrong direction. Much too late to help me solve the puzzle, though.

I had trouble everywhere -- ERG before MEG; TRUE before DING; TRAP before DRAW; SPAR before SWAB (yes, I know, it was ugly) but each wrong answer kept leading to an even worse one. And will someone please tell me what the heck URLS have to do with "history". I so resisted writing that answer in, you have no idea.

I was within a hair's breadth of DNFing -- but then I finally saw the ROUND of ROUNDABOUT ROUTE. And that gave me DING. DING!!! Puzzle solved! And not a moment too soon.

I found this a real bear, but I imagine that few people here had all the troubles that I had.

Bob Mills 8:43 AM  

I agree with Offthegrid...an hour of time wasted. I could have been doing something constructive, like twiddling my thumbs.

mmorgan 8:44 AM  

Puzzle was fine, weird at first then easy. The reviewer methinks doth protest too much. His recent review, while problematic, felt more authentic. Whatever.

Anonymous 8:48 AM  

Too easy for a Thursday. Theme was whatever.

GAC 8:52 AM  

Also finished it without understanding what the gimmick was: DOH! Very clever construction with the revealer running all t he way down the middle. That alone must have taken a long time to get right. Thanks to David Steinberg for doing this. He is a prolific creator, and a very good one.

Anonymous 8:56 AM  

Amy: in the camp of those who figured out the theme after the solve. Impressive construction, but if the theme is not contributing to the solve, the experience is less than rewarding.

Anonymous 8:58 AM  

Speaking of not funny (Rosie), can the constructors PLEASE stop referencing SNL?

Wfiske 8:59 AM  

No dinosaurs listed as being found in the La Brea tar pits: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleobiota_of_the_La_Brea_Tar_Pits. This answer looks wrong.

And it was Powder Puff girls in my print National edition.

Anonymous 9:05 AM  

Not dinosaurs, but much more recent animals, mostly mammals

TTrimble 9:05 AM  

Much better, Christopher. Still well short of exemplary, but much better. A nit is that "arsed" is a tonal miss; it manages to sound both affected and vulgar at the same time, and it'll be less understandable to your audience than the simple and serviceable "bothered".

The apology was nice, and appreciated, so thanks. Accepted.

A couple more things. What's with this arctan business? I had seen your blog with arctan(x) in it as well. I'm a mathematician and so I know this function about as well as anyone I guess, but I don't know what its function is here.

Nice to see you're a Yes fan as well. Moving on to that puzzle though ...

I absolutely loved it! A little trickier than most Thursdays, but it was great fun to puzzle out, and I think we should give it up for the constructor. I'll even forgive the "terrible threes", because at least four of those threes do a lot of heavy lifting. A minor blemish is SNOT, whose basic meaning I don't care to be reminded of mid-solve; I'm sure another CAR- word could have been found. Not crazy about TAD close to TED either, but again that's fairly minor.

I thought ARTSY was usually a pejorative?

ASICS is new to me. And I don't get it. Is it supposed to mean something?

SB: 0 yd. I often have trouble deciding if something is one word or two words. Of course I'll try every possibility I find. Case in point: my last word of yd.

Anonymous 9:07 AM  

Fossils, but not of dinosaurs at all

Johnny Laguna 9:10 AM  

OK, cute theme and all but seriously, did ANYONE make use of it to solve this very easy grid? I’m guessing no. I still couldn’t figure it out after I was done; had to read the write-up to see it. Whatever, it was a fun puzzle, though too easy for a Thursday. And props to Christopher Adams for owning up to his dreadfully arrogant, profane, drunken commentary of a couple weeks ago. His overview today was a good read.

kitshef 9:13 AM  
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Smith 9:16 AM  

Solved as themeless until the very last one. Noticed the CARs but it was the one in reverse that made the theme click. I had lazily considered a ROUNDABOUTROUTE to mean that the entries meandered across the grid but when that didn't pan out just kept going as themeless. Seemed pretty easy overall. Couple of nice misdirects like 45A. Haven't worn a HALTER top since 1975 (and don't plan to! good riddance).

And, wait, crabby Chris lives in Iowa City?? Maybe that explains his usual attitude? Anyway it was a pleasant surprise to see him all normal and stuff.

Hope your weather isn't too bad wherever you are!

RooMonster 9:17 AM  

Hey All !
Begrudgingly read Christopher. Liked he apologized for his crude, boorish last write up. Now, I'm not a prude by any stretch, but when you don't expect certain things in certain places, ala, perfunctory use of crass language here on this blog, when you come here to read Rex's take (whether he's mean or not), it kind of jars you and makes you react equally brash. It will take another apology next time you blog, Chris, especially if it's a puzzle you hate.

Anyway, to this puz. My word, talk about a tough construction. David said he got lucky with the Revealer being able to incorporate four of his "exits". That's good, because holy moly, there's a ton of space taken up by the Themers. What also helped, was a ton of Blockers. 42. Well, not a ton, but 38 normal max. Still, impressive.

Was a fun solve, also. Trying to figure out the first "backwards" CAR, 26A, took a second. Then forgetting to incorporate the Blocker before moving on also confounded a bit. I was like "what is CARESAL?" Silly me. Liked also the "exit" second parts were real words clued as real things. A step above just having a -- for me.

Good puz, BRO. 😁 Glad I didn't SIT(this)ONE OUT. Still wondering who IWA SHAD in a. (1D).*

One F
RooMonster
DarrinV

*Kidding. If you didn't realize I was kidding (you're a smart bunch, I'm sure you did!), then you can say "I WAS HAD". Har.

P. Tucker 9:20 AM  

Re: Roundabouts and Pedestrian Safety.

In Theory:
"Roundabouts generally are safer for pedestrians. Pedestrians walk on sidewalks around the perimeter and cross only one direction of traffic at a time. Crossing distances are relatively short, and traffic speeds are lower than at traditional intersections."

In Practice:
"Roundabouts provide a: 90 percent reduction in fatal crashes; 76 percent reduction in injury crashes; 30 to 40 percent reduction in pedestrian crashes; and 10 percent reduction in bicycle crashes."

Source: Insurance Institute for Highway Safety, as reported by the Iowa (aka Christopher's State of Residence) Department of Transporation

Son Volt 9:21 AM  

Not the type of Thursday I’m interested in. Basically solved as a themeless as the “what word fits” theme is primarily for constructor satisfaction. Some of the long non-theme stuff is good - ANGELINA, AMBROSIA, DERELICT etc. Overall fill was generally fine - the TAR + DOE + SAD combo didn’t help the center.

I’ve moved on from ASICS to Hoka. Limited trivia is nice.

Where’s my Thursday trick?

ROSIE

kitshef 9:22 AM  

@Spateneau, @T Rex - the La Brea tar pits have the bones of animals that lived in the last, say, 40,000 years. Dinosaurs lived 65,000,000 years ago. No non-avian dinosaur bones have come out of La Brea.

However, I was able to gain peace with the clue by realizing that birds are dinosaurs. I strongly suspect that this is not what the constructor/editors were thinking, and that it is only unintentionally correct.

pabloinnh 9:28 AM  

God said to Abraham kill me a son
Abe said man, you must be puttin' me on...

So 1A was easy. In fact most of this played easy for me, which is a good thing, because I had the whole puzzle filled in before I tackled the mysterious themers. A little looking for exits revealed what was going on, and then the fun bomb landed. Good stuff.

Slight nit in that you can't make a real right-angle turn from a roundabout. My son was married in England, and we had friends who came over to attend. The rented a car as they were planning to do a mini tour of southern England after the ceremony. They did arrive rather late to the rehearsal dinner, and explained that they had entered one of those massive roundabouts and went around and around for quite a while trying to get out.

Knew "cave canem" right away. See also "carpe canem", if your dog runs away.

Now see, CA? That wasn't so hard, was it? Good for you.

Good for you too, DS. I thought this was an ingenious construction and a nice solving experience. Decidedly Superior to many recent Thursdays, and thanks for all the fun.

Hey @Roo-I hit the rare QB yesterday too. My last word was a sheer guess and nothing I'm familiar with, and getting it right felt was far more due to luck than anything.

T. Rex 9:37 AM  

@ Wfiske (8;59 am)

The clue did not mention LaBrea Tar Pits. Just tar.

Np, dinosaur fossils are not preserved at LaBrea.

But they have been found preserved in other far less-known tar pits throughout the world.

LABrea Tar Pits has been used in this discussion as an example to demonstrate preservation in tar because the example is easily accessible for understanding the concept: people know about it. and it is quickly recognizable as a place where tar has preserved many animal fossils (just not dinosaur fossils).

However effective the example may be, the clue and the answer remain absolutely correct.

Anonymous 9:55 AM  

Could someone please explain ESE at 34A? -speak?

TTrimble 10:01 AM  

@Nancy
Thanks again for yesterday's. Since you ask: "history" is referring to your computer: look at the top of your screen, where it has file, edit, view, history. Under history is a list of URLS of sites you've visited recently.

@Johnny Laguna
Well, kinda. Seeing what was going on in each case was a mild internal consistency check on the correctness of my entries. Particularly the long down, which got me to change eRaS to URLS for example. And I guess the [CARVER] got me to see (or confirm; can't remember which) LOVER, which had a mildly deceptive clue. Oh, and I had put in TIme before TIER, although really that "m" had to go to make way for ENOCH, since "mN___" was looking pretty unlikely.

I feel like I must make more wrong guesses than most people around here, so any consistency check is always welcome to me.

mathgent 10:09 AM  

Admired the four ROUNDABOUTS. Great idea, great execution. But not much fun besides seeing the four. And David needed 27 Terrible Threes.

T. Rex 10:18 AM  

@kitchef.


The clue never mentioned LaBrea Tar Pits. Its just said "tar."

I used LABrea Tar Pits merely as an an example of fossil preservation because it is so familiar to people. But, no, dinosaurs are not preserved there. And the puzzle never made, or even implied, such a claim.

In fact, there are numerous tar pits and other sites around the world where dinosaurs ARE preserved in tar. So the cule and answer is absolutely correct. No qualification or fudging is needed.

It is your reading of clue and answer that is incorrect.

But I am at peace with that ;).

bocamp 10:25 AM  

Thx, David, for this tricksy, 'trippy' Thurs. offering! :)

Med +

Would have been easy-med, had it not been for a very tough SE corner.

Otherwise, pretty much on David's wavelength today.

Still trying to grok the theme. I see CAR four times in kind of a circular, symmetrical 'route'. How the four clues = ROUNDABOUT ROUTE is my task for the day. 🤔

Only guess was the 'E' at the TED / ESE cross. Not sure I understand the clue, '-speak'. Does it signify a language ending, or possibly ESE-speak, as in:

"ese is a Spanish slang term which means comrade, pal or friend. Young teens often use this term to refer to their circle of friends. Dictionary .com

I see DAN of Pomade fame is back.

Enjoyable spin AROUND the block.
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Peace 🕊 🇺🇦 ~ Compassion ~ Tolerance ~ Kindness to all 🙏

Gary Jugert 10:26 AM  

Solved without understanding the theme so I needed this blog post and now looking back it's pretty cute.

LOVER was funny, but otherwise not a comical adventure. With so much short stuff, SANTA HAT feels like the only standout longer answer. I guess AMBROSIA and DERELICT are nice too.

Troubles:

SNIT for SNOT. Didn't know ENOCH and got stuck there. I did not know MRIs are noisy. ANGELICA for ANGELINA since DAPPER DAC would be way more hip-hoppy.

Uniclues:

1 RWNJ's emotion on learning tax dollars will help the poor.
2 Coolest pastor languishing in the worst parish.
3 Me.

1 SUNK COSTS ANGER
2 ADEPT REV ROTS
3 GODLESS BASIC

Carola 10:29 AM  

A fun one to figure out. I felt like I was tackling a crossword and a jigsaw puzzle at the same time Halfway into solving, with no idea of what was going on with those "exits," I paused at the grid's waistline with "Okay, let's roll up our sleeves and figure this out." That yielded me two plus-sigh shapes of intersecting words, with two random appearances of the letters C-A-R. I didn't see how plus signs or cross shapes fit with ROUNDABOUT, but whatever. Onward. It was only after I'd completed the two remaining "plus-signs" that I had my "Wait a minute moment" and caught on to the CARs entering the four ROUNDABOUTS. Wow! In celebration, I then decorated my grid with a marker by turning the center squares into circles and providing turning arrows for the cars. But of course David's is the true work of ART.

Two trouble spots: In the NW, when I was still wandering in the wilderness, theme-wise, I thought CAR[P]ETS ran vertically through a hidden P. Then, in the SE, having caught on to the pattern, I resisted NOIR, wanting the dead meat to be CARcass, an instance of understanding the theme being a hindrance.

Anonymous 10:34 AM  

The puzzle was brilliant! and much more fun than a normal Thursday. This guest reviewer however, is a far cry from Rex.

Joseph Michael 10:36 AM  

This puzzle was a trip. And I enjoyed the ride.

egsforbreakfast 10:46 AM  

Chris Adams: Hawkeye. Makes me wonder if there’s a connection to the Marvel Comics guy. I appreciate that you feel an apology is in order. Thank you. However, I’m still not in tune with someone who says “I don’t solve the NYT unless it’s by a constructor I know and enjoy.” Given the huge number of debuts this year, it seems like a very short-sighted approach. Like resolving at age 21 to only eat foods you know and enjoy. Some people live like that I guess.

I got the theme at the second ROUNDABOUT and used it extensively in the very fast solve that resulted.

I wonder if anyone got to the third ROUNDABOUT and asked CAR 54(A) Where are you? It seems like Gunther Toody and Francis Muldoon could bring a fresh vibe to Mayor Adams’ plan to incarcerate the mentally ill and homeless.

Did you hear about the drink that combines La Brea TAR with gin and vermouth? It’s called a LATINI.

This was a fantastic concept for a puzzle and was executed very nicely. Thanks, David Steinberg.


Sir Hillary 10:48 AM  
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Tom T 10:50 AM  

Like others, I gave up trying to understand the theme device until after the solve, at which point I saw the CARs and the exits, but still failed to connect them to their traffic circle ROUNDABOUT ROUTE revealer.

Enjoyed the puzzle--played somewhere between easy 9lots of 3 letter fill) and medium.

Had D _ N G for 20A, and convinced myself for a while that it was DaNG:

First grade teacher: Children, can anyone tell me the capital of Belize.
Susie: (without missing a beat) Belmopan.
Teacher: (impressed) DANG!

I did rule out DoNG and DuNG right away.

Sir Hillary 11:05 AM  

Been off the NYT and this blog for a while (having only now caught up to what happened last Thursday -- yikes!) but what a day to come back. What a terrific Thursday puzzle! The only possible nit I have to pick is that RAC isn't a real thing other than a CAR in reverse. Otherwise, this one is basically perfect -- ultra-clever theme, open corners, no real junk in the fill, a revealer cutting through all four theme clusters (be it by luck or by skill -- doesn't matter) -- and, most of all, fun to solve. Wow, just wow.

TTrimble 11:07 AM  

@T. Rex
The great tar pit debate boils on...

Much as I'd like to give you the benefit of the doubt, I'm having a very hard time locating a source that says that dinosaur fossils have been found in some tar pits somewhere in the world. (For the sake of this discussion, maybe we should agree to discount birds of today or of the Pleistocene Era as being "dinosaurs" -- let's say we stick to land-bound animals.) It's not that I disbelieve you or even have a dog in this -- it's just that I've spent about 15 minutes trying to google this, and nothing's come up. Do you have a source that would settle the matter?

Speaking of "citation needed" -- I can't remember any of ROSIE O'Donnell's stand-up work, but she's been in Curb Your Enthusiasm for example in some funny situations, so I think that clue can be given a pass.

Shirley F 11:10 AM  

La Brea Tar Pits

Alice Pollard 11:15 AM  

I think LOVER is a stretch. Just because one “courts” does not make them a “LOVER”. There is alot of game left between the two. Liked the puzzle though on a few of the themers I didnt even pay attention to the trick. ASICS I am not really familiar with . AMBROSIA was in the puzzle recently, may have been the Super Mega, not sure. Chris, nice write up... have you joined AA? No disrespect...

Whatsername 11:23 AM  

Yeah, no. Yes, a marvel of construction, and absolute marvel. But did that translate to a fun puzzle to solve? No, not necessarily. I quickly skipped over the convoluted theme clues and even after getting the revealer was less than enthusiastic about seeing the outcome. I know this constructor has over 100 puzzles published in the NYT alone and that’s certainly an impressive accomplishment which I don’t mean to diminish. This one just wasn’t my CASK of wine.

@Christopher Adams: Apology accepted and appreciated.

@Joaquin (8:01) Best comment of the day.

beverly c 11:28 AM  

I thought this was fun to solve, but I was lucky to catch on in the NW. I appreciated the help from knowing there would be more CARs. And the orientation (RAC) to direction of travel was a nice detail.

I didn’t see the URL history connection either. Nice. Thanks @TTrimble
Yay! For COIN, DING, LOVER, ORATOR, the revealer, and the clue for ANGER

TedP 11:31 AM  

@kitshef 7:12 AM Consider the La Brea Tar Pits in Los Angeles.

Suzie 11:31 AM  

Definitely didn't get the theme today until I came to this blog, so thanks for that. I mostly enjoyed the puzzle anyway, but found most of it pretty easy for a Thursday. The construction makes it awfully clever, but not terribly difficult, I suppose.

I confess to having some trouble in the top center, but that was my own fault. I don't even remember what I had in, but it led to a whole mess of *almost* correct answers that left the puzzle unsolvable for a few extra minutes. I'm my own worst enemy when it comes to these things.

Anonymous 11:33 AM  

I loved this one! Puzzled out the theme early on because, as a former New Yorker, I hate all the roundabouts in DC. I was determined to figure them out in the crossword, at least.

Anonymous 11:53 AM  

Thanks for adding the circles to your grid image. Your extra work made the theme a lot easier to understand. (I missed it.)

kitshef 11:57 AM  

@T Rex 10:18. Thanks for the information. I stand corrected.

Anonymous 12:03 PM  

I never expected to see anyone to get self-righteously pedantic about TAR.

Ethan Taliesin 12:03 PM  

Another puzzle where the theme is of no help to the solve, just a thing to figure out after the fact. Not my favorite kind of gimmick

Wright-Young 12:04 PM  

Had to work a bit to figure out the theme, which only made sense once I’d filled in ROUNDABOUTEROUTE and completed the SW one, which apparently had the car going in the right direction for me to see it. Fun puzzle, nice “aha,” and clever construction.

Anonymous 12:04 PM  

I hated this puzzle…but I LOVE that you are back…and BTW I loved your last post…

Anonymous 12:06 PM  

Kudos to Rex for standing by his friend with a second chance to blog.

Anonymous 12:07 PM  

La Brea has a lot of Pleistocene critters (last couple tens of thousands of years), but not dinosaurs, which were at least 66 million years before that.

Masked and Anonymous 12:07 PM  

Amazin puztheme & construction.
I'da caught onto the theme sooner, if I hadn't been strugglin so much with ANGELINA/ISAAC in the NW and SUNKCOSTS/COORS in the NE. They kinda conspired to hide the lil CARs from the M&A, for many extra precious nanoseconds.

fave entry: SANTAHAT. Pleasantly seasonal addition to the mix. AMBROSIA, DERELICT & SITONEOUT were also mighty nice.

staff weeject picks: CAR. RAC. CAR. RAC. The weejects were honored to drive the whole dern theme gig, today.

Only thing that stung the M&A a tad mite about the puztheme: I don't especially like roundabouts. Don't have em in my neck of the woods, and so kinda struggle to figure em out, when bumpin into one, on the road. I guess they're considered safer or faster-traffic-movin, or somesuch? They seem kinda treacherous to m&e, especially in touristy areas, where half the drivers have no idea how to deal with em. Result is a loblolly of stops and gos and hesitations. And don't get m&e started on which day-um lane yer supposed to be in, while yer tryin to spot the street sign yer lookin for.
What the fword's wrong with 4-way stops? [har]

Thanx for the clever puz, Mr. Steinberg dude. M&A of course looked for additional undocumented turn-offs. Is ET'S RAT maybe a thing?

Masked & Anonymo3Us


**gruntz**

Photomatte 12:08 PM  

What a truly joyless puzzle this was, from top to bottom. Didn't see the theme, didn't care about the theme once it was revealed in Rex's blog, and felt like the whole thing was utterly devoid of wordplay. How did this make it as a NYTXW? Also, what in the world is ese-speak (34 Across)? We've all heard of easy-speak and of speakeasy, but ese-speak? Come on. There's gotta be better puzzles out there.

Anonymous 12:18 PM  

I usually DNF Thursday’s. However, when I do like today, it always bums me out a little bit when I see so many people say it was “easy.”
Since I rarely can solve Thursday’s, I do not get too much practice with rebus puzzles.
It’s great to hear everyone comments. For me, this puzzle was plenty challenging and so much fun to complete a rebus puzzle.

Anonymous 12:25 PM  

I wonder how many answered 6D and that bore on how they answered the clues. I solved the puzzle and then figured out the theme answers and said, “Wow!”

Enjoyable write-up! G

sixtyni yogini 12:29 PM  

Trying : the operative word for the 🧩…. (and reviewer.) Maybe too hard.
Nevertheless clever, skillful.

Easy puzz, but too much visual gymnastics for me.

The two reviews by Adams imho balance each other out in accuracy of analysis - to two average (not that bad and not that great) puzzles. 😂👍🏽😂

A tempestuous, passionate review is okay, not every day but once in a while. It sure woke the commentariati here up. 😳 myself included 😳. So thanks constructors and Adams.

🤗🦖🦖🦖🦖🤨

Weezie 12:37 PM  

I started the puzzle worried that it would be too easy (NW corner filled in way too quickly for a Thursday for me, maybe because all the PPP were known to me, loved seeing WANDA and DAN near each other), but then came the absolutely exhaustingly cryptic/non-helpful theme clues, and it felt like the right difficulty level. Still a faster solve than usual once I decided to ignore the clues. Not a fun one, but again, cryptic themes are the hardest solving challenges for me.

Any tips on how you approach them? I assume it’s just practice and patience, yes?

Anonymous 12:37 PM  

-ESE as in legalese!

Weezie 12:38 PM  

-ESE as in legalese 🙃

Anoa Bob 12:44 PM  

Am I the only one who has never heard of a ROUNDABOUT ROUTE? I just know it as a stand alone ROUNDABOUT or maybe with "junction" or "intersection". ROUTE here has an ad hoc, just to make ROUNDABOUT a grid spanner feel to it.

Having three possible CAR exits from each ROUNDABOUT was clever and kicked up my solve buzz a notch or two. Having 42 black squares (36.9 Thursday average per xwordinfo.com) had the opposite impact though. That resulted in 80 words (74.8 Thursday average), 47 (!) of which were 3s and 4s. Not much fun to be had filling in those.

Did having the deity at hand command him to sacrifice his son ISAAC lead Abraham to going ASTRAY becoming GODLESS?

Anonymous 12:57 PM  

Anonymous

My paper NYT had Powerpuff Girls

Anonymous 1:15 PM  

My print paper here in the Chicago suburbs this morning has “Powerpuff Girls” for 52A.

If people indeed saw “Salt-N-Pepa“ in print, maybe it was a running change that happened in the middle of printing in some markets?

Teedmn 1:29 PM  

I finished solving before taking the time to figure out what the theme clues were doing. It took me finally seeing CAR TIER before the penny dropped.

This morning on my way to work I took an alternate ROUTE in order to avoid the ROUNDABOUTs on my usual route. Yesterday's multi-inch snow in near zero temps left the roads an icy nightmare - no circles for me today!

David Steinberg, thanks for the Thursday challenge.

And from yesterday, Nancy and Will, I really enjoyed your puzzle, as did my co-worker!

Smilodon 1:39 PM  

Tar, as mentioned above, does preserve fossils. La Brea does not have dinosaur fossils.

Since the clue does not mention LaBrea, it is correct. Preserver of Ice-Age fossils would be more precise.

okanaganer 2:27 PM  

Fun theme by David. We have a few roundabouts hereabouts, and my only objection to them is that after a big event -- say the Snowbirds air show -- you have a huge flood of cars entering from one direction. If you are trying to enter from the next one to the right, you can be sitting there for a looooong time!

Amusing typeover: for "One going to court" had LAVER for quite a while.

Last night was the coldest in many years, so naturally the power went out. I put on my headlamp to brush my teeth and went to bed, but couldn't sleep worrying about the furnace, which won't run without power. Very relieved when it came back on about 3 am (the house had cooled to about 59 F).

[Spelling Bee: Wed 0, 3 day QB streak. Congrats @Ttrimble (I'm guessing this was your last word?.. note M-W shows it as 2 words) and @Barbara S.]

Sharonak 2:30 PM  

@KITSHEF LABREA TAR PITS

I don't quite get this even after the explanation found it too difficult to have time for.

Tim Carey 2:42 PM  

This puzzle warranted last weeks profanity. Solved the whole puzzle, read the explanation here. Who cares?

Anonymous 3:07 PM  

Anoa bob,
No, quiet the contrary of course. far from becoming Godless, Abraham became the Patriarch of the world's three religions--the faith of, give or take 5 billion people.

Wandeerlust,
Remember God didn't in fact compel Abraham to sacrifice his son. But God himself allowed his own Son to be sacrificed in order to redeem the world.

Anonymous 3:10 PM  

Glad Rex asked you back and you apologized. Though to be honest, I wasn’t offended like others. You’d admitted drinking. Drinking can make us seem cleverer but often just nastier. Laughed out loud reading one sentence- don’t remember which.

old timer 3:17 PM  

I got the CARs, though not the backwards RAC, and figured out that the CAR began words suggested by the three-part clues. But I never quite figured out what was going on. And now I learn there were no dinosaurs in the La Brea Tar Pits! I always assumed there were, because right next door was a museum with all sorts of dinosaurs. T Rex, triceratops, all the usual suspects. Also of course mastodons and saber toothed tigers, which were drowned in the Pits.

I figured out the ROUTE was ROUNDABOUT, which made the solve possible, though far from Easy. Very familiar with ROUNDABOUTS, so popular in Massachusetts when I was younger, and so usual in England. On one trip there I drove the A1 north at breakneck speed, having figured out the secret of who has the right of way. Not so fast on my first family trip to France, where we drove all over Normandie, with those teeny-tiny roundabouts marked in the pavement, often with signs that warned I did not have la priorite'. More than once we went round and round and round, because I had no idea which town was next on our planned route to Mt St-Michel. But we got there OK, and also tasted a lot of delicious cider. It was far easier going back, since all the signs we needed said "Paris".

In England, I hiked for many a mile, and found it was quite easy to walk around the ROUNDABOUTS. You only have to look for lorries and cars in one direction, as they enter or exit -- and you have to remember what that direction is, in a country where everyone drives on the left.

Glad OFL is having a great time in Kiwiland.

Blue Stater 4:18 PM  

Could someone take us, in plain English, through one of the theme answers? I'm totally baffled by the gimmick here and the explanation in Mr. Adams's column is no help. As it was, I got the whole thing without having to invoke the gimmick except one letter in two words, 66D, 69A, which always annoys me. I thought this was over the top, as usual on Thursday; it's possible to construct challenging and interesting puzzles without resort to nonsense like this.

Michael 4:19 PM  

I thought this was one of the best NYT puzzles I have ever done. Amazing feat of construction and fun to solve.

Chris and I live in the same town, are connected to the same university, majored in the same subject as undergraduates (math) at the same university (not the one as where we are now), and both like crosswords. The similarities end there....

As far as roundabouts in Iowa City -- they are not exactly filled with traffic and hard to cross. Not like Boston.

Side note - the word for "roundabout" is noted for being locally variable -- rotary, traffic circle, and others.

bocamp 4:30 PM  

@Christopher

Good to see you back so soon, and in fine fettle, to boot! The last time you were here, I clicked on one of your links and downloaded some of your samples. Enjoying the challenge, and learning lots of new stuff! Thx! :)
___

I was finally successful in fully grokking the beauty of David's ROUNDABOUT 'road trip' theme. A wonderful piece of construction! :)
___
Peace 🕊 🇺🇦 ~ Compassion ~ Tolerance ~ Kindness to all 🙏

Michael 4:42 PM  

Personal best for a Thursday, felt like nearly every across that wasn't a quick fill had a down that would give the needed leverage. Didn't really pay attention to theme but saw directionality of CAR and realized it was somehow tied to a roundaboutt for the long down.

Fred Rutherford 4:43 PM  

Pleasurable a-ha moment getting the theme mid-puzzle. An easy but enjoyable Thursday. And that's all I have to say about that.

TTrimble 4:47 PM  

@Blue Stater
I'll give it a crack, although I thought Chris's explanation wasn't too bad.

All the theme answers (except the long 6D) are words that begin with CAR. Let's look at 5D. The black square below CAR (which Chris illuminated; you could think of it as a stoplight) can be thought of as an intersection from which point the "car" could go either right (from its perspective) or straight or left. The direction determines how CAR is extended to form a longer word. If it goes right, then it passes over the letters P, E, T, S and this forms the word CARPETS, which is the answer for the first clue of 5D (floor coverings). If it goes straight, the word CARETS is formed (addition signs?). Note these are CARETS in the sense of an editorial sign to insert a word in a text. If it goes left, then the word CARDING is formed, matching the third clue of 5D.

In 66D, you of course have to read up from the bottom to get CAR, but the right/straight/left order is consistently maintained in the cluing. Thus right gives CARROLL (Lewis), straight gives CARLOS (Santana), and left gives CARRION.

Hopefully it's clear now. The theme is tied together by ROUNDABOUT ROUTE (which route you take at the intersection). It's an impressive feat of crossword architecture.

TTrimble 4:53 PM  

(Oh sorry, of course it's Lewis CARROLL. My bad.)

Anonymous 6:29 PM  

The tar pits hold the bones of animals from the last 100,000 years or so, not bones of dinosaurs from 65 million years ago

Anonymous 6:32 PM  

Why do you think they are dinosaur fossils? The tar pits are much too recent and have mostly mammal bones

Wright-Young 6:49 PM  

@Nancy - Missed the byline yesterday but enjoyed your puzzle! Lots of clever clueing, fun solve. 😊

albatross shell 7:01 PM  

Overthetoprant followed by an overthetopapology. I guess that balances out about right. Maybe both were too long but OK.

Fine little puzzle with an original twist and some fine clues.

ASICS I never heard of or never noticed. The A was only possible because I had by then got the CAR conceit.

I got the ROUNDABOUTROUTE theme answer from crosses. But had a tough time applying it correctly. The problem was because of the CAR in the NW which was the first CAR area I completed. I took the black square as the roundabout and turned on the diagonal to the P and continued turning to the E of ETS and exited along the TS. I did not notice I would get the same result by getting off at the P and continuing straight. Then I turned diagonally to the D to get CARDING. CARETS did not register as a + sign at all. This led to complications galore when I tried rounding about in the other CARs. Eventually I saw the more elegant solution.

@Anoa
I like exploring backroads when I go places. When I do I always say I TOOK aROUND ABOUT ROUTE. Sorta like that kid does in the Sunday comics in the Family Circus. Splitting off an A of a compound word for the sake of pun and the puzzle is OK by me. A dropped A of convenience if you will.

Sandy McCroskey 7:21 PM  

Anonymous at 3:07 PM: No, God didn't compel Abraham to sacrifice his son; the story says that God only compelled Abraham to prove that he was willing to sacrifice his son. A very uplifting story~

As is the wonderful tale of the supposedly omnipotent God being compelled himself by some self-imposed (or from where?) cosmic debt, condemning humanity, his creation, to… what? They're all mortals already, right? "Eternal death"? But the doctrine of Hell says that most of humanity is doomed to suffer eternally, like Auschwitz to the infinite power: that's the loving God Christians worship.

Anyway, supposedly God had his son get crucified to "save" humanity. Who was he paying off by that sacrifice? Did God torture his son just for the fun of it? We already know he's a monster from the Old Testament. And how much of a sacrifice was it? Jesus slept under the dirt for a few days, at most (the tales vary), came back good as new, even better. None of it makes any sense.

B-money 8:05 PM  

Pure genius.
Figured out the theme about 2/3 in, and it was clever and helped me correct a few errors.
LOOOOOVED it.

To Sandy Mccroskey et al., maybe it's better for this XW blog if we keep our thoughts about religion to ourselves. This way we avoid the back and forth bickering, where nobody ever changed anyone else's mind.ever. And no one really cares what other folks think, if we're going to be honest.

Joe Dipinto 8:52 PM  

Where is the shelter and the pretty nurse selling poppies from a tray who feels as if she's in a play, because she is, anyway? Surely DS could have incorporated that into the grid art.

But then, I don't think I've ever seen so many people show up to be in the grid: ISAAC, WANDA, ANGELINA, DAN, TAD, MAE, TED, MEG, SOL, ALFRED, ROSIE, ENOCH. Even DAD and BRO came by.

Anyway, I liked the theme.

Made in Japan 3:00 PM  

My favorite Thursday in months!

Regarding Chritopher's TANGENT on roundabouts, I agree completely. There are an increasing number of them in Minnesota, and I'm generally in favor of them. The problem is that cars assume that there is no reason to stop when they are exiting a roundabout, and as a pedestrian it's hard to judge whether they are planning to exit across your path or continue going around.

Anonymous 4:07 PM  

Do not understand ese answer to -speak

Jack 10:05 PM  

Right Answer

Dorothy 10:45 AM  

-speak is a suffix indicating language.

thefogman 10:31 AM  
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thefogman 10:58 AM  

OFL’s fill in Christopher Adams said:
…but it was an excellent aha moment post-solve when I could actually be arsed to read them and figure out the theme.
His reviews are quite puzzling…

spacecraft 12:25 PM  

A "tour"-de-force for sure. For theme purposes we have to suspend the no-repeat rule; in this case worth it. I was led ASTRAY at first when 23-down seemed to continue 5-down's CARPETS, with just the P being displaced. Thought they were all like that.

Is SUNKCOSTS a thing? Sems awfully awkward and non-spoken IRL. Other than that, it's a remarkably dense theme pulled off (har!) to near perfection. Eagle.

A rather surprising Wordle birdie.

Burma Shave 1:34 PM  

STEP OUT

ISAAC roamed ROUNDABOUT and led his LOVER ASTRAY,
ADEPT at THE BASIC ROUTE to ROLL THE way WANDA MAE.

--- ANGELINA CARTIER

rondo 2:06 PM  

Leave it to DS to build a puz like this. Get in that CAR and go. No wasted INK here as I see no write-overs. In MN we're building ROUNDABOUTs all over the place.
Wordle phew with too many whacks at BGGBG.

Diana, LIW 2:54 PM  

Whilst I did fill in all the correct letters in the grid, DS sure stumped me with those turns. And then, when I saw what was up, I did a truly Homeresque "doh!" How could I miss that? Well...I could. And did.

Diana, Lady-in-Waiting for Crosswords, and Fearer of Thursdays

Brett Alan 2:32 AM  

If anyone's interested, the syndie puzzle has the Salt-N-Pepa clue, not the Powerpuff version.

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