13th-century Persian mystic who is one of the best-selling poets in the U.S. / WED 6-23-21 / Decorative items washed up on the beach / Tech that enables contactless credit card payments / Fleeting romantic interest / Where Boxing Day comes before Christmas, in brief?

Wednesday, June 23, 2021

Constructor: Kate Hawkins

Relative difficulty: Medium to Medium-Challenging 


THEME: SHAPE UP (26D: "Get it together!" ... or a hint to the highlighted letters) — circled letters in the theme answers (all of which are Downs) contain the names of SHAPEs that run backwards (or, literally, UP):

Theme answers:
  • MICHAEL CRICHTON (3D: Author of "Jurassic Park") (circle)
  • PASS THE BUCK (22D: Shift blame to someone else) (cube)
  • I HAVE NO CLUE (15D: "Beats me!") (cone)
  • FLAVOR OF THE WEEK (10D: Fleeting romantic interest) (oval)
Word of the Day: RFID (41A: Tech that enables contactless credit card payments) —
Radio-frequency identification (RFID) uses electromagnetic fields to automatically identify and track tags attached to objects. An RFID system consists of a tiny radio transponder, a radio receiver and transmitter. When triggered by an electromagnetic interrogation pulse from a nearby RFID reader device, the tag transmits digital data, usually an identifying inventory number, back to the reader. This number can be used to track inventory goods. [...] Unlike a barcode, the tag does not need to be within the line of sight of the reader, so it may be embedded in the tracked object. RFID is one method of automatic identification and data capture (AIDC). RFID tags are used in many industries. For example, an RFID tag attached to an automobile during production can be used to track its progress through the assembly line, RFID-tagged pharmaceuticals can be tracked through warehouses, and implanting RFID microchips in livestock and pets enables positive identification of animals. Tags can also be used in shops to expedite checkout, and to prevent theft by customers and employees. (wikipedia)
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Well this one shaped up well. You've got a bunch of shapes that are indeed running up, and you've got both two- and three-dimensional shapes, and you've got a pretty colorful set of theme answers, so yeah, this works. Noticing "circle" backwards inside MICHAEL CRICHTON was the real coup here. Not too keen on that final themer (qua themer): LAVO (i.e. "oval") is not buried in that theme answer the way the other shapes are buried. That is, all the other shapes are stretched across at least two words (three in the case of I HAVE NO CLUE), but LAVO just sits inside FLAVOR, so while the answer itself isn't bad, it isn't doing anything particularly interesting with its shape. It feels like there's FLAVOR and then just all this gratuitous extra stuff. OF THE WEEK is a lot of thematically idle material for a theme answer to contain. Again, the phrase itself isn't bad, it's just that it doesn't express the theme itself in a particularly inventive or interesting way. Also, "flavor of the month" is the more common idiomatic phrase (the one I tried to make fit at first). It appears that a moderately successful single by the band American Hi-Fi, in 2001, may have had something to do with the popularization of "flavor of the week," though that song's title is actually "Flavor of the Weak." Still, I'm only mad for theme reasons here. Idiomatically, it's fine.


Had real trouble getting started with this one because the NW corner hit me with two total "???" clues right out of the gate. The only thing I could think of at 1A: Plays for time, in a way (VAMPS) was STALLS, and then when I tried to get some help from the short cross, I was confronted with 4D: Who wrote "To Helen" and "For Annie" (POE), and ... nope, did not ring any bells at all. I've seen variations on POE so often that I figured I'd have all the titles in his canon memorized by now, but apparently not. Then I bounced to the next section, but, perhaps traumatized by failing to nail a literary clue, my brain absolutely muffed the "Hamlet" clue at 6A: Word repeated by Hamlet before "solid flesh" (TOO). Of course it's TOO, but my brain was like "uh, three letters, poetic speech ... ERE! Is it ERE ERE solid flesh"!? (it is not). Hilarious then to see ERE turn up later in the grid like "hey, what's up, someone call me?" But back to VAMPS. That word suggests something improvisational and performative to me, but "Plays for time" was never gonna get me there. I guess the "in a way" is doing a lot of work, and yeah you might vamp (in the sense of "improvise, extemporize") in order to buy time. But that is a tough 1-Across. I was also expecting the Mario Kart clue (again!?) to be Mario Universe-specific ... but it was just RACER. So me and that corner didn't get along. But Hamlet over RUMI, that part, I like that. I didn't realize until recently RUMI was so big. When I read him for a Mystical and Erotic Poetry course 30+ years ago, he seemed obscure as hell. But I went to look for his poems in the bookstore and yeah, lots of editions. So someone out there is digging him.


Only thing I didn't really like today is RFID, which is a thing, yes, but it's still a four-letter initialism, and not even a real acronym (i.e. you can't say it as a word ... you don't say "arfid" or "ruffid" do you, please say no). This is another example of "modern and newish-to-crosswords does not mean good." I would do anything I could to steer around something like RFID. Not too crazy about ARNE either. Tons of good ANNEs, very few ARNEs (none of them particularly good). ENE v. ERE feels like a tie to me, and ANNE > ARNE, so .... yes, this is minutiae, whatever, I think about minutiae sometimes. There's not much here that needs explaining. [Digs] is slang for a dwelling place, as is CRIB. Don't see anything else that might cause any confusion. Shout-out to HOT SECOND for being the best answer in the grid today, and to [Is the pope Catholic?] for being the best clue (though [Where Boxing Day comes before Christmas, in brief?] is pretty good too). See you tomorrow.

Signed, Rex Parker, King of CrossWorld

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136 comments:

WinthorpeIII 1:44 AM  

Yeah, that NW corner hurt me, too. I'm not buying VAMPS any time soon.

chefwen 1:51 AM  

Well, I learned about RFID, thank you Rex. Was sure I had something wrong there, thought 41D could be HASP, but HFID made as little sense as RFID so I left RFID in place, since I’m technically impaired I figured it’s just something I don’t know.
Never heard anyone say HOT SECOND and didn’t know RUMI, but it all fell into place.

Dear Old Dad hated the words SHUT UP, so at the fear of being SMITED (would that be one or two T’s) those words never escaped my lips, regardless of how annoying my brother was being.

I enjoyed this one.

Ann Howell 2:34 AM  

Just came in to say that RFID *is* pronounced ar-fid, at least in the UK...

jae 3:27 AM  

Medium. @chefwen RUMI was a WOE for me TOO but the rest was pretty straight forward including VAMP. Cute theme with a couple of fun long crosses...PLUMPEST, HOT SECOND...liked it.

JOHN X 4:39 AM  

I'm currently in a Nye County bordello and it ain't the bowl of peaches you think it is.

Do you think it's all Vogue models? I got a fat woman sitting on me and I'm ready to chew both my legs off.

Gimme this puzzle!

Shé di Felina 5:46 AM  

I thought I should comment today as I liked this puzzle a lot and always seem to only say negative things. I actually found it pretty easy and it was a comparatively quick Wednesday for me, but that's just a testament to being on the wavelength of the setter I think. Some days it flows, others (like yesterday) it's a turgid slog. That said, I went some distance into the puzzle (with my slightly idiosyncratic method of doing all the acrosses then all the downs in order on the first pass) with a very sparse number of answers until it all took off around TYPEO.

Particularly enjoyed SMITE, VAMPS, SEAGLASS, HUMDRUM, and HOTSECOND. And I quite liked the slight misdirection on ARNE; having no idea who that was, as a Brit, I put my missing R in as an N initially and had to be corrected by the cross.

Shé di Felina 5:46 AM  

I thought I should comment today as I liked this puzzle a lot and always seem to only say negative things. I actually found it pretty easy and it was a comparatively quick Wednesday for me, but that's just a testament to being on the wavelength of the setter I think. Some days it flows, others (like yesterday) it's a turgid slog. That said, I went some distance into the puzzle (with my slightly idiosyncratic method of doing all the acrosses then all the downs in order on the first pass) with a very sparse number of answers until it all took off around TYPEO.

Particularly enjoyed SMITE, VAMPS, SEAGLASS, HUMDRUM, and HOTSECOND. And I quite liked the slight misdirection on ARNE; having no idea who that was, as a Brit, I put my missing R in as an N initially and had to be corrected by the cross.

Son Volt 6:18 AM  

Lots of trivia here - but also some good stuff. After seeing CIRCLE - the themers went quick - no problem midweek. Liked HOT SECOND and HUMDRUM and the SEA GLASS - REEFS combo.

Not sure I understand the RFID riff - we see plenty of 4 letter initialisms. Common concert term - at least I thought for a band to VAMP waiting for their leader to come on stage. A little side eye to PLUMPEST - not something I’m checking when buying peaches.

Fairly enjoyable Wednesday solve.

Joe Welling 6:43 AM  

Winthorpell said...
"I'm not buying VAMPS any time soon."

Perfectly legit word as clued. Think jazz.

After the first themer, I thought each one might use "UP" as in "CIRCLE UP."

Lewis 6:46 AM  

What a fantastic supporting cast to the theme Kate has given us today. Five great perk-up-the-puzzle answers, IMO: FLAVOR OF THE WEEK, HOT SECOND, PLUMPEST, HUMDRUM, and SEA GLASS, with the first three of these being NYT puzzle debuts. Answers like these elevate a grid from prosaic to stellar.

Further, there are two wonderfully playful clues, for OED and YES which propel these ordinary answers into stardom. I also noted the seven double E’s and the lovely and antonistic PuzzPair© of CHATTY and SHUT UP, not to mention the relevant pair of VIRUS and UGH. Look at that – VIRUS and UGH – something I think we all can agree on!

All this made for a puzzle with spark, much more than just a solve. Thank you, Kate!

DSM 7:04 AM  

VAMP is totally fair. It implies playing for time. The connotation is, we are doing this until something happens - waiting for the leader to come on stage (as Son Volt said above), waiting for a musical theater actor to make an entrance, waiting for applause to die down. On sheet music it is often notated as measures with a repeat saying vamp until such and such.

The Joker 7:11 AM  

Isn't RFID technology what Bill Gates put in the Covid vaccines?

Hungry Mother 7:23 AM  

Couldn’t get that NW square and had to reveal it.

kitshef 7:25 AM  

An average Wednesday puzzle that felt hard. While solving, felt like I was struggling until suddenly I was done. First guesses of STALL and CLOWN and LUIGI at 1A and 13A and 17A sure didn’t help.

Just last night I went to a restaurant where you had to scan a QR code to get the menu … WHICH IS EXTREMELY FRUSTRATING IF YOU DON’T HAVE A SMARTPHONE!!

Always enjoy LUSH in the puzzle as an excuse to go listen to some of their music.

thfenn 7:27 AM  

Is the Pope Catholic? That's apparently not 100% clear per the US bishops, a sad state of affairs. Other than that, really enjoyed this one. Got SHAPEUP quickly, filled in CIRCLE and voila, one of my favorite writers that I'd incredibly forgotten wrote Jurassic Park. Has several books I thought were much better. So the theme was fun and helped my solve. First went with riffS and gAmER in the NE so that was a bit of a slog there, but this was a fun one.

Frantic Sloth 7:27 AM  

Okay. This was pretty good if not terribly tricky. But that seems to be the case with most themed puzzles lately - and by "lately" I mean the last few years. What gives?

Never mind. Loaded question.

Only nit worth my irritation? FLAVOROFTHEWEEK. I've always heard it as FLAVOROFTHEmonth, which doesn't fit, so let's just use a different part of the calendar. No.
Get out.

Otherwise, no strong feelings either way, so I guess that means a big heaping bowl of Mehpo for breakfast.


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pabloinnh 7:29 AM  

Yes to thinking VAMPS was used precisely and sorry I didn't get it right away.

TOO I knew instantly, as my college Shakespeare class included a couple of zany theories about Hamlet. One was based on the "Oh that this too too solid flesh would melt" line and tried to interpret the play by suggesting that Hamlet was grossly overweight. That was pretty unforgettable.

No clue about RFID or RUMI and thought HOTSECOND is something I've never heard but the rest was easy as cake and a piece of pie. I'm with @chefwen in the nonuse of SHUTUP, which in our family was equated with swearing.

Liked this one well enough, EXCEPT, the revealer was right in the middle and I hit it early and that spoiled the fun, darn it.

Nice Wednesdecito, KH. Kept Hoping it would last a little longer.

OffTheGrid 7:30 AM  

I would have eliminated the circles (or shading or whatever), starred the 4 theme clues and written 26D clue as "Get it together" or hint to what's hidden in answers to starred clues. As is the theme is just a big ho hum after the fact "so what" meh. But I really enjoyed the solve. Could have been presented as themeless with nothing lost.

amyyanni 7:46 AM  

Delightful.

Mikey from El Prado 7:46 AM  

I had a very fast time for me, and really not sure how. Beat my Tuesday time by a minute. Guess it was just in my wheelhouse, which is not always the case. I sussed the circled letters as shapes fairly quickly via MICHAELCRICHTON, which was indeed a construction feat. Kudos to Kate for that!

One small nit…. I don’t think of PASSTHEBUCK as shifting blame, but rather shifting responsibility to someone else.

Glen Laker 7:49 AM  

Turgid Slog would be a great band name.

rando 7:53 AM  

Yes you do pronounce RFID as 'AR-fid'.

bocamp 7:55 AM  

Thx Kate for this very crunchy Wednes. puz! I needed to SHAPE UP to finish this challenge! :)

Tough solve.

Blanked in the NW; got going with OUT / UTAH STATE, but the rest was very slow going.

Enjoyed the challenge and was successful in the end. :)
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yd pg -1

Peace ~ Empathy ~ Health ~ Kindness to all 🕊

JD 8:00 AM  

It was a tiny sussfest. Too, Rob, Ono, Ops, OED, Yes, Ski, Ugh, Nor, Woe, Aloe, Dens, Afro, Shoe, Knee, Heel, Rock, Eels, Urns, Vino, Crib, Lush.

Plumpest & Chatty, LLP, representing people who are normally intimidated by counsel.

Vamp almost killed me. What an Idiot. Loved Sea Glass. Agree with @Frantic on Flavor Of The Month.

Used to quash Shut Up when I heard it between the kids with, "We don't say that," til one day my frustrated son yelled, "Well I say it and I want her to Shut Up!" A 5-year-old at wits end. I let that one slide.

mmorgan 8:00 AM  

Nice one. Never heard of HOT SECOND but it kinda made sense. The NW was tough and last to fall for me. I usually hate hate hate circles but these didn’t bother me. How can you not like a puzzle where an answer is I HAVE NO CLUE?

Anonymous 8:00 AM  

another VAMPS complaint. 'playing for time' (isn't that a WWII concentration camp movie title? ... yes, yes it is). a VAMP, in performance is an improvisation, but not for the purpose of stretching to another point in the performance under duress.

well, may be not (the wiki):
"The term frequently appeared in the instruction 'Vamp till ready' on sheet music for popular songs in the 1930s and 1940s, indicating the accompanist should repeat the musical phrase until the vocalist was ready. Vamps are generally symmetrical, self-contained, and open to variation."

not convinced that's how it's used these days.

Patrick 8:01 AM  

This is my impression too - repeating a phrase until whatever you're waiting for (an entrance, the end of dialogue, etc.) happens. Very puzzled at the number of people who have a different understanding.

CuppaJoe 8:15 AM  

I thought the circled letters in 3 down were going for “electric eels”. Couldn’t figure out where the extra letters were. Then had no idea what was happening with the other strings of circled letters. I did love the actual crossword part of this one.

Z 8:21 AM  

I just put FLAVOR OF THE WEEK in the google machine and got back a whole lot of ice cream shoppes and custard stands. Also got an Urban Dictionary, Free dictionary, MacMillan, and Wiktionary entry, all giving the clue meaning. And also just all sorts of usages by ESPN, CNN, ABC, The Washington Post, Sarah Palin, someplace calling itself the Nation’s Restaurant News (about some Mexican beverage),… I’m surprised people haven’t heard the phrase. Colloquially I think it and FLAVOR OF THE month are basically interchangeable as a fairly derogatory dig at the bona fides of people (all those news sources were impugning someone(s) judgement) or as a fairly derogatory dig at someone who flits from relationship to relationship.

As for VAMP, I’m not clear on what Rex was saying. Like him, just by itself, I wasn’t going to get VAMPS from “plays for time,” but once I got VAMPS I had “nice” reaction because that’s literally what VAMPS means. We need a word for a clue that is a misdirection from being TOO TOO direct.

Otherwise pretty much what Rex said about the puzzle. I did miss that OVAL didn’t cross two words. I had an LOL moment at the YES clue. Between Popes and Bears I usually go with “Is the bear catholic” or “does a pope poop in the woods” and nobody but nobody ever notices. Ya gotta love clichés.

Barbara S. 8:35 AM  

Good puzzle. I liked all the literary references: Audre Lorde, POE, RUMI, Grecian URN(S) implying Keats, (The) IDIOT (Dostoevsky), TOO (Shakespeare), YES (Joyce). Lots of BODY terms (appropriate for “SHAPE UP”?): KNEE, HEEL, TYPE O (blood), SOLE. Kudos for LUSH sitting atop PLUMPEST and NEE crossing KNEE. I liked being HAD by RUSES, but WOE above REEFS was a bit too much reality.

I know nothing about his work and picked this in haste but in keeping with today's puzzle, I give you a poem by JALALUDDIN RUMI (14A).

A MOMENT OF HAPPINESS

A moment of happiness,
you and I sitting on the verandah,
apparently two, but one in soul, you and I.
We feel the flowing water of life here,
you and I, with the garden's beauty
and the birds singing.
The stars will be watching us,
and we will show them
what it is to be a thin crescent moon.
You and I unselfed, will be together,
indifferent to idle speculation, you and I.
The parrots of heaven will be cracking sugar
as we laugh together, you and I.
In one form upon this earth,
and in another form in a timeless sweet land.

TTrimble 8:43 AM  

I predicted wrong again: I thought Rex might say something along the lines of "okay, so it's four shapes going up -- and that's it??" (Might Kate Hawkins be a friend of his?)

Full agreement that MICHAEL CRICHTON was thematically serendipitous. I can imagine the constructor going, "okay, I need CRIC somehow; let's see, there's CRICHTON -- omigod! first name MICHAEL! that totally works!" Now, what would have been really gobsmacking is getting "square" in there, somehow or other (but yeah, it seems clear that's asking too much).

For me the NW went in pretty fast. VAMPS was not immediate, but glad to see other commenters defending it (thus providing a necessary corrective to Rex's commentary). Think for example the scene in The Blues Brothers where Cab Calloway at long last is introducing the main act and the keyboardist is VAMPing like mad during that intro -- overall, there is a lot of playing for time before Jake and Elwood finally make their big entrance.

Anyway, I think for me it was ADAGE and then IDIOT and very soon thereafter VAMPS and MICHAEL CRICHTON and I think at that point I understood the theme. So the puzzle didn't really rate a "Challenging" for me -- more like a medium.

Hard disagree that there's anything very wonderful about the clue "Is the pope Catholic?" (YES). Agree that the nearby HOT SECOND is not a bad answer, not at all. It makes me wonder whether "New York Minute" has ever been in a NYTXW. That would be sweet.

Naticky in nature is RASP. Not the word itself (although I was going, "what's a farrier, again?"), but the crossing with RFID which I'd never heard of, and with the to-me somewhat awkward answer PLUMPEST. Sure, if someone asked me, "Do you prefer your peaches plump, or thin?", I go with plump, but desirable superlatives for a peach that come much more quickly to mind include "juiciest" and "sweetest". Not PLUMPEST. I mean, just generally, I expect peaches to assume an approximately spherical shape, and the peaches I see in the grocery store seem not to deviate markedly from what I reckon is the mean, so PLUMPEST, for me, landed with thud. A plump peach is like green paint. To be honest, I was vaguely thinking "plummiest" which might not be a word, and a peach is admittedly not a plum, but hey, I do what I can. As one does.

(No, I'm not a robot.)

Yesterday's SB: holy moly. I was pg -6 when I gave up.

Unknown 8:49 AM  

Elegant theme, deftly executed.
I was never a Yoko ONO fan, but I get why we see her so frequently.
The more time I spend constructing puzzles, the more slack I give when I see words I'm not crazy about.

Not sure why Z is "surprised" that folks are more familiar with the much more widespread "flavor of the month."
Not sure why JOHN X had to mention the fat prostitute he was hanging out with, unless he thought he was making a joke. But it wasn't funny. Most prostitutes suffered sexual abuse as youngsters and are dealing w/ their own issues of drug addiction and PTSD. I'm not the most woke or progressive fellow around here, but that "joke" fell flat . . . .

Peter P 8:57 AM  

@Anonymous 8:00 a.m. I've played in musicals before (this would have been in the 90s), and "vamp" was absolutely used to mean "stretch time out by playing a short chord sequence" for an actor to hit their cue (whether stage direction, musical, whatever.) That's the primary meaning of the word "vamp" in a musical context I'm familiar with. It can be used in an intro of indeterminate length, in a break in the middle of the song where there is a spoken monologue that is not explicitly tied to the music, it can be at the end of a song where the singer introduces the band or cast, etc. It's anywhere you need the music to keep going while waiting for an external cue, and it is not a free-form improvisation but rather a set short (maybe 2-bar) chord progression (or I suppose any type of short musical figure, like even a bassline, could function as a vamp) that is repeated. Improvisation is not a necessary component of vamping, although ornaments and flourishes can be used to keep interest.

Z 8:58 AM  

@Anon8:00 and others - Theorizing here that there’s a difference between VAMPS from a performer’s perspective and from an audience perspective. Well done VAMPS are entertaining in and of themselves, plus the improvisational nature of many VAMPS mean they take on a “you had to be at the show” feel to them. So a performer may just be in a groove to fill some time, but from the audience it just feels like a part of the show, maybe even a special part of the show that the people in the next town or listening to the group on Spotify don’t get to experience. Does that fit in with what you were thinking?

Hand up for never hearing RFID pronounced, but being absolutely okay with “ar-fid.” If I ever needed to say it out loud that’s the way I would go.

@Glen Laker - I imagine Turgid Slog would be a death metal band.

@Mikey from El Prado - I don’t see the difference between “shifting responsibility” and “shifting blame.” Well, I guess the first sounds less weasely. To be clear, it’s just as bad, it just sounds better. I suppose there are times where one doesn’t have the authority or power to do something, and then one might look like they are shifting responsibility when really it’s just that they don’t have the responsibility. But I wouldn’t use PASS THE BUCK in that situation.

GILL I. 9:05 AM  

I only know "Barnacle Bill the Sailor" sung by the VAMPS. Or was that Popeye?
Oh, Kate...You give me RUMI and I'm dancing the fandango tango. I've always been interested in all religions. You can learn so much if you just open your mind. Islam is fascinating and so is a Sufi Mystic like RUMI. He believed in compassion, tolerance and inner peace. Ever watch the dance of the dervishes whirling? you can thank him for that.
This was a Wednesday worthy of its hump. Was there anything I didn't like? Well, no....I loved it all. Not an UGH, NOR WOE in my VINO GLASS to be found. I will take these TYPEs of puzzles in a HOT SECOND.
@kitshef. I laughed at your scan the QR code. Why, you ask? The first time my BFF and I wandered the now open restaurant scene, we were told to whip out the phones, find what we liked and order. My phone needed charging and my friends phone didn't work. The waiter had to go get an old MENU and read everything to us. He said everybody hates those things and he hates reading the entire menu to everyone and he hates his job and so does the cook and everyone is quitting. I did leave him a nice tip, though.

Frantic Sloth 9:08 AM  

ARNE clued as the composer of "Rule, Britannia!" would have been easier for me. And I agree with Rex that RFID is a pretty obscure initialism for, oh I'm gonna say most people. But RACER annoyed me for its specificity-challenged brand x-ness, which is terminology that just rolls trippingly off the tongue and down the stairs to the RFID basement. 'Nuff said about all that.

@chefwen 151am Maybe smote? Also, was your dad a nun at my grammar school? Or was his "smite" just metaphorical? Asking for my head.

And RUMI knew me, but I didn't know him. (which should surprise no one)

@kitshef 725am I would have got up and left - especially if they provided no other option. And I have a smartphone.

@JD 800am 🤣Do you have any business cards for these law firms? They always seem like my kind of peeps. So does your son, BTW.

Put me solidly in the "VAMPS is 100% legit" camp, but also slow to arrive between my ears, which were VAMPing before its appearance.

@Z 821am Wrong. Look no further than your citing Sarah Palin as a fan of FLAVOROFTHEWEEK.

TrinaLC 9:10 AM  

I don’t understand the OED answer (Boxing Day before Christmas). Can anyone enlighten me?

I had same reaction as Rex and others to “vamps” but now understand there is another meaning esp in performance context!

TTrimble 9:16 AM  

@TrinaLC
I'm sure I'll be neither the first nor last to say this, but Boxing Day would appear (alphabetically) before Christmas in the dictionary (OED = Oxford English Dictionary).

Z 9:16 AM  

@unknown 8:49 - Because WEEK strikes me as at least as widespread as FLAVOR OF THE month. The difference in what comes back from the google machine is fascinating. Month has explanations but I have to scroll down to get uses. WEEK has fewer explanations but page after page of actual uses. Mostly food related uses, then that song Rex mentioned, then similar to the clue uses. If I were to base my opinion purely on google hits, it looks like only DQ and Baskin-Robbins use FLAVOR OF THE month while everybody else uses FLAVOR OF THE WEEK (which is why using google hits is always to be done with some skepticism). I will not be surprised if people who “have never seen it” suddenly start noticing FLAVOR OF THE WEEK all around them and notice it in some news report or other media.

SouthsideJohnny 9:21 AM  

It seemed like most everything skewed "just a touch tough" for a Wednesday - VAMPS and RFID have been discussed (and will be all day); even the more "routine" stuff seems on the difficult side. RUMI and UTAH STATE for example - a niche poet and a niche school from a niche conference - granted they are significant niches, but I suspect both answers would be comfortable joining the party on a Friday as well. Even 34D - URNS I'm guessing a (dare I say niche) artist who most likely specialized in painting (or etching, or maybe just creating) URNS. None of it is really unfair or WOE, just difficult in the aggregate - I think there is more separation (difficulty-wise) between today and yesterday for example, than there is in an average week. This week has definitely been a huge improvement over last week so far though.

Chip Hilton 9:22 AM  

Twelve minutes, which for me is quick. MICHAELCRICHTON a big help as I got VAMPS off the M. Got lucky on RUMI, RFID, and MCKAY, all of which were new to me but fell with the crosses. Several clever clues (Pope and OED my favorites) in a solid Weds. puzzle.

Greetings from CT, the 19th state to legalize recreational marijuana. More high folks behind the wheel? Sigh. . .

Anonymous 9:25 AM  

We went through the VAMP angst a few weeks back. Perfectly OK. Ask any pit musician at a musical.

JD 9:26 AM  

It may have been Baskin Robbins that popularized Flavor of the Month years and years ago and that's why it seems so much more familiar. At some point I guess it replaced flash in the pan to mean light, temporary celebrity? That would make it vulnerable to time change.

Flavor of the hour could be Andy Warhol's 15 minutes of fame, an idea in the age of apps that seems to be panning out. Ugh.

Frantic Sloth 9:35 AM  

@TTrimble 843am Yeah, I've completely given up on trying to predict Rex - especially not knowing who his friends are. Plus it's all such a personal take on his solving experience, too many variables are in play for any hope of "guess accuracy" to live longer than a Woolworth's turtle.
Agree with you on PLUMPEST. Also like my oranges round, my apples apple-shaped, and my grapes any way they come.

@Z 916am WEEK needs to strike you harder until you see that month is the more common. I'll bet my car that if you asked 100 people from anywhere across this land to complete the phrase "FLAVOR OF THE...", you will get "month" much more often. Go ahead and eliminate all the ice cream venders you want, too.

jberg 9:43 AM  

I may be an anomaly here, since no one else has mentioned it, but I've always heard and said "I HAVE NO idea" or "I HAVEn't a CLUE." So that held me up for a hot second.

RUMI is one of those poets I always think I want to read, but never have, except on the frequent occasions where someone quotes him -- so thank you, @Barbara.
@chefwen, @pabloinnh- growing up, we said SHUT UP to each other freely; somehow my daughter developed the idea that it was horribly insulting, so I had to excise it from my repertoire. She'll be 45 this year, and long gone from the house, but it has stayed out.

I get that NEE is French and has an accent aigu -- but wouldn't it be neat if putting a K in front of it changed the vowel sound? Seeing the two words cross got me thinking that way.

@Unknown, "UNLESS he thought he was making a joke" (emphasis added). I'm guessing you haven't steeped yourself in the collected works of @John X.

You could clue 15D as

12. Fall short
15.
19. It may turn at a station

That would be tough.

jberg 9:48 AM  

@Roo from yesterday. It's not the safety. Since getting vaccinated I've driven from MA to Florida and back for a 3 week spring break, spent a couple of weekends away, gone to art museums, eaten in restaurants frequently. It's just stores. Now that I've developed the habit of buying online and having things delivered, I just don't have the motivation to go back to in-person shopping. Eventually I will, as there are somethings I want that I can't get delivered, but there's inertia.

mathgent 9:49 AM  

OVAL doesn't really belong with CIRCLE, CUBE, and CONE, but, keeping Joaquin's Dictum in mind, this is a crossword. Good work finding the four backwards. Besides MICHAELCRICHTON, PASSTHEBUCK was a great find.

@Unknown (8:49) is accusing John X of being in bad taste. Is the Pope Catholic?

I remember when the line was "Is the Pope Italian?"

MICHAELCRICHTON has been married five times. Steve Martin, a friend of his, once asked, "Have you ever heard of pre-marital sex?"

Enjoyable, indeed.

MarthaCatherine 9:51 AM  

I always thought a VAMP was a sexy woman walking across the stage in a too-tight dress waving a feather boa while the band plays "The Stripper" and a big bad wolf in the audience had his eyes popping out of his head.

Some sexist Looney-Tunes imagery from my childhood.

Frantic Sloth 9:52 AM  

@JD 926am You are probably right about Baskin-Robbins making FOTM popular. It seems it can be traced back to 1936 and a Sealtest ad for their ice cream, which makes perfect sense to me. Living across the street from a local creamery (until I was 13), we had ice cream just about every day in the summer. I also remember the Sealtest brand. (???) Never had B-R ice cream until college and found it absolutely disgusting. Tasted like it was made out of plastic.
@Z This changes nothing. It's still FLAVOR OF THE month. 😉

RooMonster 9:58 AM  

Hey All !
SEA GLASS? Try pollution...

Really surprised Rex didn't devote 3/4 of his write-up complaining about the one Non-C Themer. CIRCLE, CUBE, CONE, OVAL. 🎶One of those things is not like the others 🎶

So there are Aggies in UTAH and Texas? What, exactly, is an Aggie?

A Priest, a Pastor, and a rabbit walk into a blood donation clinic.
The nurse asks the rabbit, "What blood type are you?"
"I'm probably a TYPE O" said the rabbit.
😁

Befuddled response? O MAN I HAVE NO CLUE

Nit time! How can you have SHUT UP in your grid when your Revealer is SHAPE UP? Well, at least it cleans the fill UP. 🤪

Double E fest. 7 of 'em. YES.

Not TOO much a CHATTY VAMP today. Think I'll SHUT UP.

Three F's
RooMonster
DarrinV

Nancy 10:02 AM  

R or H? Like everyone else, I didn't know RFID, but I thought a RASP was a more appropriate tool for a farrier than a HASP.

I didn't know there was such a thing as SEA GLASS. To which I say: Never go barefoot on the beach.

I've heard of a NEW YORK MINUTE, but never of a HOT SECOND. Maybe New Yorkers don't say HOT SECOND because we have such a proudly self-referential alternative.

Ah yes. "Oh that this too, too solid flesh would melt." In my high school English class, we were instructed to learn any "Hamlet" soliloquy that we chose. Most classmates chose "To be or not to be". I chose this one. But because of my strange propensity back then to memorize poems and lyrics almost by osmosis, to sop it up sort of like a sponge, I ended up knowing both by heart. I probably still do if I put it to the test. It's a special talent of mine -- and surely one of the most useless in the catalog of special talents. Unless you're an actor, of course, as I am not.

A second day in a row where a theme that's all about grid design proves to be completely ignorable while solving. But I found the puzzle lively and enjoyable nevertheless.

JD 10:08 AM  

@mathgent, Your comment is valid 🥳 !

Peter P 10:19 AM  

"Flavor of the week" vs "Flavor of the month." I am, frankly, surprised at how many say "flavor of the month" is clearly the more usual form. The first thing to pop into my head is "flavor of the week." A google ngram search does seem to indicate that in their written corpus, at least, "flavor of the month" is indeed more popular, but a plain google search of the internet using quotes shows "flavor of the week" the slight favorite. That said, the way google searches work and count, it's not a definitive point in favor of "flavor of the week." I posit that both phrases are common, although for me, "flavor of the week" rings more usual. Obviously, your experience with your peer groups may vary.

Then again, I also think RFID has been a perfectly ordinary everyday initialism for the past decade or more (especially in regards to reading articles/hearing news about privacy, and RFID skimming.) I don't pronounce that as "are-fid," though. It's "are eff eye dee" in my American dialect.



Nancy 10:21 AM  

Like Lewis, I especially liked the playful ways YES and OED were clued. And the grid-spanning long Downs were well-chosen and fortuitous.

And like TTrimble (8:43) -- I also want my peaches to be JUCIEST or SWEETEST, not PLUMPEST. I read somewhere recently that when you're looking for JUCIEST in any fruit, from a lemon to a melon, you pick it up and see how heavy it is. The heavier, the juicier, supposedly.*

*I am absolutely terrible at selecting fruit -- although I've gotten pretty savvy about avocados. My go-too method is to ask one of the store employees and hope s/he knows more than I do.

Nancy 10:25 AM  

JUICIEST. Sorry.

Anonymous 10:26 AM  

Rumi? Rumi? Please. Though I'll confess I am curious about the reading list from Rex's class. Give me Hopkins for the mystical and Catullus for the erotic. ( Rex why did you capitalize mystical and erotic poetry? This isn't a course catalogue)

Carola 10:26 AM  

Really nice! And thanks to some happy happened-to-knows, I moved through the puzzle at a comfortable STROLL: it wasn't the day to be a RACER, given all the pleasures to enjoy along the way. Nothing HUMDRUM here! Even the tired old crossword EELS gained a new sparkle from the SEA GLASS above them. A rare day when I got the reveal from the first letter, after spotting the ascending CIRCLE and OVAL; that saved me from having NO "idea."

Re: RFID - my husband got the whole family RFID-blocking credit card holders after reading about card-number-stealing thieves at airports harvesting info from passing travelers.

Help from previous puzzles: HOT SECOND. Do-over: PLUshEST. No idea: SOFIA.

Anonymous 10:30 AM  

@Frantic:
Never had B-R ice cream until college and found it absolutely disgusting.

If you were lucky enough to have been a kid in NE up to, about 1970, Friendly's ice cream was as good as any of today's 'premium' brands. But they were sold off a number of times and went downhill from there. The ice cream plant was up the road in Wilbraham.

I once worked a 360/30 (it was an aged junker by the time I saw it; I'm not that old) above a B-R store in Harvard Square. Both the machine and the ice cream were bottom of the barrel.

Tom R 10:34 AM  

Thought it was pretty easy for a Wed. Only problem I had was vamp which I got from all crosses then just looked at it, but had the happy pencil. To me a vamp is a seductive woman playing with the emotions of men. Looked it up in a paper dictionary (Yes, they still exist and still have uses) and vamp turns out to have a lot to do with shoes (I did not know that) with the music definition #3 out of 8 so I would suggest its use here is quite a stretch if you aren't a shoemaker or musician.

Not saying it isn't legit, only that it belongs in a Friday/Sat puzzle, and not at 1A. I bet if it had been clued as Seductress, no one would have complained.

Joe Dipinto 10:36 AM  

You better shape up.

Shouldn't there be quote marks around "Is the pope Catholic?" Or maybe the plan is to start using any fact-based question as a clue for YES. And maybe other answers too.
67a Is the pope Catholic? YES
68a Is the pope wrong? NEVER
69a Does the pope look good in fuchsia? NOT REALLY
70a Will the pope be the new "Jeopardy" host? YOUR GUESS IS AS GOOD AS MINE
The whole puzzle could be turned into a sort of Magic 8-Ball game.

Ho-hum.

Breathing Life 10:39 AM  

I don't understand clue 58 across giving answer WOE.

Frantic Sloth 10:42 AM  

@Roo 🤣🤣🤣 It's no secret that I can be easily amused, but that TYPEO joke got a literal LOL from me. You sick bastard.

@Anonymous 1030am Yes!! First time I ever had Friendly's was early 70s in Saratoga Springs NY (where my sister went to school - she's the one that brought us there) and did I ever plotz when one opened a couple of years later in my hometown! There are a few of them still around, but they are rare - and not at all like the original. More's the pity. 😕
(The "brand" is available in grocery stores, but it's just not the same)

Flava Flav 10:44 AM  

People, people, people. I guess I’m an outlier but I don’t need Google searches to justify the answer here. To me the operative word is FLAVOR and the phrase can depend on just how often the person referred to has new romantic relationships, so it can be “flavor” of the week, month, or year as far as I am concerned. Anyway, this puzzled played on the difficult side starting out but once I started to get a toe-hold it ended up being a few minutes faster than my average Wednesday (and since I have the app, it’s timed but I never TRY to speed solve so who knows what THAT means

TJS 10:46 AM  

Hey, anybody have an opinion on "vamps"?

I refuse to believe that "Rumi" is a best-selling author of anything, even poetry.

Lots to like in this puzzle, one of the best Wednesdays in a while,IMO.But I could do without the OED bit.

Not sure why, but "Shut up" was not approved in our house either.

In the "I am shocked, shocked !!" department :@Jphn X making a joke about prostitutes, and Rex confessing "I think about minutiae sometimes".

Breathing Life 10:49 AM  

58 across. Can someone explain how lll = WOE?

Anonymous 10:57 AM  

@Nancy:

Avocados are easy, if the bin is mixed (my local megamart is adverting 'ready to eat' in the bin tag; so far: yup) aged. The not-ready-for-primetime-players will be hard as a baseball when given any kind of squeeze. The ready to go ones, will give a bit instead to a bit of hand loving. Too much give, and the thing is past due, and will be more or less black inside; not Good Eats.

If you're in no hurry, get the baseball versions (more durable, just like cello packed 'tomatoes', arrgh!), and a small paper bag. Put them in the bag, lightly closed on the counter, and test each morning. Should only take no more than 3 mornings for it/them to get to perfection.

TTrimble 11:03 AM  

@Frantic Sloth
You're clearly correct that FLAVOR OF THE month wins hands down. That, by the way, is also technical jargon. Some guy's pretty good idea in physics or math winds up being a flavor of the month. Yes, it's a thing.

@RooMonster
I read that joke maybe 2.5 times and finally erupted in a big laugh. Really good one, but I clearly need more sleep. :-)

@MarthaCatherine
I'm with ya. All roads lead back to Bugs Bunny. The VAMP, dressed in black, has an hourglass figure and smokes with a cigarette holder.

albatross shell 11:09 AM  

I knew ROCK. The ASTINs dimly (John- Gomez ADDAMS; Sean- Sam Gamgee LOTR). RUMI SOFIA MCKAY Audre, no memory at all even though some are people who I must have come across (Audre- Black feminist author activist; Sophia- Modern Family ). But they all filled in with out difficulty.
Working online and being playful, I filled in the NW with first best guesses with no thought of how they went together:
1A WArpA
13A clown
17A meH
20A luigi
24A SEA____
ADAGE IDIOT GEEK VIRUS cleaned it up fairly quickly. Got POE off the O just because of it being a common crossword entry only.

SHAPE UP was a brilliant reveal and the circled answers were a solid group of themers, if a bit unexciting.

The answers which the shapes were a part of were not of a group. Three were snappy well known phrases and seemed to me to almost have connected meanings. One was just a name. I thought Rex was going to give us the "one of these is not like the other" complaints. But no, he liked that one. And gave a good reason. I missed that OVAL was in a single word. A small nit that deserved mentioning.

FLAVOR OF THE WEEK is very common and in Wiki is the one that gets mentioned relative to romantic relationships and was probably the source for the clue. The original phrase was "month" and came from ice cream advertising. So it is the oldest. So say the Wikis.

I have heard or read HOT SECOND. hASP before RASP but when the music didn't come I continued the mental alphabet and the R was easy. No idea of what the cross was.

YES went in a HOT SECOND. OED took 2 crosses.

Whatsername 11:11 AM  

A fun Wednesday, maybe a little on the tough side. CRIB with the definition indicated was new to me and I HAD NO CLUE what RFID meant. The theme was of no help in the solve because I didn’t see what was going on until I was finished but I liked the end result.

I know it’s not socially acceptable a but I love SHUT UP. Sometimes you just get your fill and you just don’t wanna hear any more, and nothing else expresses your utter disgust like those two words.

Does PASS THE BUCK count as exercise? If so we have some politicians who must be incredibly fit.

albatross shell 11:18 AM  

@Unknown
I agree. Not JOHNX'S best work, little to do with the puzzle. Maybe if her name was Peaches and she was the PLUMPEST. The brothel was in Nye county and thus presumably legal and following all regulations.

albatross shell 11:31 AM  

Forgot to mention:
I HAVE NO CLUE, NO CLUE or CLUELESS could be clued with a blank clue. I think I remember a clue or cluesthat were blank, but not what the answer(s) were. Could
" " be a clue for NOTHING TO SAY?

Maybe . . . 11:32 AM  

RooMonster@9:58AM:
An Aggie is a student in a university's College of Agriculture.

Tim Carey 11:33 AM  

I solved it as themeless, never saw the "shapes up" until I came here.

Musta been pretty easy, I can only rarely do a Wednesday...

Anonymous 11:42 AM  

@TTrimble:
The VAMP, dressed in black, has an hourglass figure and smokes with a cigarette holder.

Well, wasn't it Jessica Rabbit who was the, sorta kinda, good VAMP?

Anonymous 11:43 AM  

Joe Dipinto,
The pope is wrong plenty. He's only infallible when he speaks ex cathedra.
The last time that happened was 1950.
The pope doesn't wear nor ever has worn fuchsia. Rose (worn on the third Sunday of Advent and the fourth Sunday of Lent) is probably the closet any of the liturgical colors comes yo fuchsia.

albatross shell 11:52 AM  

@me
That should be:
1A wArPS

AROAK 11:58 AM  

Thanks Rex for posting a Remi Wolf video. I've been digging her music and vibe since I first heard her last year. I've been waiting for her to blow up as the next big thing. I wish I could make it happen, but middle-agers don't really controll the hit music scene these days.

Frantic Sloth 11:58 AM  

All good (correct) arguments about FLAVOROFTHEWEEK being equally/more acceptable as clued (which I get is what we're all doing here) but as a stand-alone phrase, it's month that I remember, hear, and say. And in a perfect world, we all know that whatever I say is what counts. What's that? The world is not perfect? Harrumph. Go know. 🤷‍♀️

TTrimble 12:01 PM  

@Breathing Life
In case there was any confusion, that Ill is ILL when spelled in all-caps, and not the Roman numeral for 3. One of life's ILLs could be considered one of life's WOEs.

JC66 12:08 PM  

@chefwen 151am

SMITTEN?

Hey @Roo

Like others, it took a couple of readings before I got the joke. Good one! 😂😂😂

albatross shell 12:14 PM  

Please. If 2 phrases are common and mean similar things why in the name of the crossword gods should only the one that you believe beats out the other in popularity be the only one used in a puzzle? Especially when that one is f****ing 16 letters long. And when your standard for synonyms is if the third meaning of one word is close to the 5th meaning of another all is groovy. Rant over.

chance2travel 12:16 PM  

Similar problem getting started in the NW. Wasn't sure about Flavor of the Week but it held up and took me all the way down the east and clockwise back to get VAMPS and TOO and all that.

Had no idea who RUMI was, but skipped past it and suddenly all the crosses were filled.

Came in faster than yesterday's time, so I rate this as easy for a Wednesday. All the long down themers just fell right in place for me. :)

Anoa Bob 12:19 PM  

Hard Hearted Hannah
Peggy Lee, Ella Fitzgerald

In old Savannah
I said Savannah
The weather there is nice and warm
The climate`s of a southern brand
But here`s what I don`t understand
They`ve got a gal there
A pretty gal there
Who`s colder than an artic storm
Got a heart just like a stone
Even nice men leave her alone
They call her "hard hearted Hannah"
The VAMP of Savannah
The meanest gal in town
Leather is tough, but Hannah`s heart is tougher
She`s a gal who loves to see men suffer
To tease them and thrill `em
To torture and kill `em
Is her delight they say
I saw her at the seashore with a great big pan
There was Hannah pourin` water on a drownin` man
She`s hard hearted Hannah
The VAMP of Savannah, G-A
The call her "hard hearted Hannah"
The VAMP of Savannah
The meanest gal in town
Talk of your cold, refridgerating mamas
Brotha she`s a polar bear`s pajamas
To tease them and thrill `em
To torture and kill `em
Is her delight they say
An evening spent with Hannah sitting on your knees
Is like travelin` through Alaska in your BVDs
She`s hard hearted Hannah
The VAMP of Savannah, G-A
Can you imagine a woman as cold as Hannah?
She`s got the right name "the VAMP of Savannah"
Anytime a woman can take a great big pan
Start pourin` water on a drownin` man
She`s hard hearted Hannah
The VAMP of Savannah, G-A
[Spoken] Ooh! She`s sweet as sour milk.

albatross shell 12:24 PM  

@Roo
Isn't glass just sand? Or is there a hidden joke there.

2 readings nothing.
1 reading out loud.
Hope you got my kinda FAI joke last night. Was that what you were thinking?

Carola 12:24 PM  
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JD 12:25 PM  

@Frantic, We're in first grade. I'm 3 inches shorter than you. An older kid says, "My dad says it's flavor of the week!"

I clench my fists, draw a line in the dirt with the toe of my Mary Jane and call him out, "Say it to her again, cross this line and I'll break you!"

I think we settled that. If not, we'd have to call in @Gill and @Whatsername. One starts swearing in Spanish and the other tells him to Shut Up.

kitshef 12:27 PM  

@Joe DiPinto - I love the idea of a whole puzzle clued papally:

Hairstyle never seen on the Pope: AFRO
Nickname of the first Pope: ROCK
Clement IV, among the Popes: PLUMPEST

and so on.

Anonymous 12:33 PM  

@Roomonster, both universities were founded as agriculture colleges, hence the nickname “aggies”.

Anonymous 12:44 PM  

kitshef,
Clement IV should be clued most perspicacious pope. He made Aquinas the Papal Theologian. Can't beat the Angelic Doctor.

TTrimble 12:53 PM  

I thought some of us were not being entirely serious about week vs. month. Let's all relax: it's clear which went into the XW, and it's fine.

@Anonymous 11:42AM
That's definitely the idea. Apparently a precursor to Jessica Rabbit was Tex Avery's Red Hot Riding Hood.

I was having some trouble finding anything on the interwebs that accorded with a supposed memory of a Looney Tunes VAMP in a black dress with a cigarette holder, but a reasonably close match is Hatta Mari.

Crimson Devil 12:56 PM  

Best Wed in memory.
Goit Bugs !

Paul 1:21 PM  

“An ill” could be “a woe” (for example in a phrase like “of all my ills…” or something).

Pete 1:24 PM  

I'm pretty sure everyone is showing their age in the Month/Week discussion. My Google has Month at 1.6M, Day at 2.6M, Day at 5.2M. If B&R's month is your touchstone, you're old. In today's word you have to pump up the pace or die.

I did a lot of work in the RFID field 15-20 years ago, and never heard ar-fid, though it makes sense. All of you are probably toting around a half-dozen of those things. The idea is great, the reader also is the power source, so the tags are good in perpetuity. Not too sure I want to have them tied too directly to my finances though.

Joe Dipinto 1:37 PM  

@Kitshef – excellent idea.
23a Pope Francis, vis-à-vis Argentina – NATIVE
27a Meal accompaniment for a pope, maybe – VINO

GILL I. 2:28 PM  

@JD 12:25: Just for you....
cayate la boca cabronita......
Salute tutte and a little hi to @pablito.

Frantic Sloth 2:35 PM  

@albie 1214pm Are you speaking to me? Moi?? Dude, lighten up. 🤣 Nothing I ever say should be taken that seriously. Seriously. Except maybe that. Believe me, you will know when something really gets my cork.
Oh, wait...I think I meant @Anoa 1219pm. 😉

@JD 1225pm 🤣🤣🤣I love that!! Only in my scenario, they just rang the bell for lunch and here's me, followed by you.

Whatsername 2:35 PM  


Flavor of the Month

@Frantic (9:52) I discovered Baskin Robbins at about that same point in life and fell madly in love. Well at least with Jamocha Almond Fudge which is the only flavor I ever got. BR closed all their stores here though years ago, so I have to make do with my own version of it at Cold Stone Creamery.

@Nancy (10:21) The heaviest one is definitely the right choice if you’re selecting a melon. And someone told me once to select a mango the same way you do an avocado, firm but a little soft to the touch. Usually works for me.

@JD (12:25). Just let me know where and when. We’ll whip that big bully into SHAPE! 🤣

Z 2:51 PM  

@Anon10:26 - I think that means the name of the course was Mystical and Erotic Poetry.

I’m not bad. I’m just drawn that way.

@mathgent - So if Rex was more into mathematics he might have double dinged OVAL?

Personally, Hudsonville’s has the best ice cream. Since I’m not living in Michigan anymore I make do with Tillamook. We do have a couple of specialty ice cream makers around here that are very good, but you have to make a special trip to enjoy their wares.

Frantic Sloth 2:54 PM  

@Whatsername 235pm I can't deny B-R's popularity. I just don't get it - and I've tried! Now, I've never had the pleasure of tasting Cold Stone Creamery, but I think they have a good rep, no? Surely none of this = a hardship, does it? 🤣


***I Have an Opinion About Fruit Alert***

Only thing I know for sure? Give me a crappy-looking heavy lemon over a pristine flyweight any day. Unless I'm using the zest, of course.

Anonymous 3:16 PM  

@mathgent & JD. Any thoughts on a name or phrase with ESPILLE in it?

Colette 3:25 PM  

Loved this puzzle, such fresh cluing and clever, clever theme!

But truly still can't get over yesterday's Stairway to Heaven and Highway to Hell and Cross Roads. OMG. How did he DO it?

@Anonymous: How about wESPILLEdit, as in the proverbial milk?

Just a quick hello. Keep commenting all you regulars. Love reading you!

RooMonster 3:31 PM  

@jberg
Ah, my misunderstanding. Allow me to take my foot out of my mouth!

@albatross
Yep, got it! I was thinking more Femoroacetabular Impingement, cause you know, everyone's heard of that. 😆 And sand is known as SEAGLASS? Dang, the stuff you learn doing crosswords.

@Maybe 11:32 & @Anon 12:33
Thanks! Makes sense. (As I often don't.)

Thanks for the Yuks, y'all. Even a squirrel gets a nut occasionally (or whatever that saying is!)

RooMonster Yuk Guy

Anonymous 3:39 PM  

Of course Rex is claiming the class was called mystical and Erotic poetry. But I'm certain that wasn't it's name. All university classes have multiple designations, usually department and level. You know, English 201: Hawthorne and Melville. Rex was using a shorthand, and an eminently reasonable one. But like so many people in academia he's officious about it. So he capitalized the subject--erotic and mystic poetry--give it the imprimatur of a title. That confers gravitas. Z used italics-- far better way to convey a title.
But even if I'm wrong about all that , I'm not wrong about Catullus or Gerard Manley Hopkins.

Anonymous 3:41 PM  

if Mohair Sam is lurking, care to second me that Turkey Hill is the country's best ice cream?
I believe America's Test Kitchen so proclaimed it not too long ago.

BEE-ER 3:48 PM  

ARTHROPATHY should be on the list

Sharonak 3:51 PM  

Z @ 9:16
Aagreed. I see"flavor of the week" at coffee bars a lot, can't actually remember seeing "flavor of the month"

JD 4:01 PM  

**Fantasy Alert**

@Frantic, @Gil, @Whatsername, Sound effects, really good swearing, and an able fighter. It's month, and that settles that 😄.

RyanSem 4:15 PM  

Loved this one. OED and YES were great clues. I don't understand all the fuss over VAMPS. I thought it was clued perfectly.

RFID was tricky because I didn't know the first letter. Thought it be "Near" frequency or something, and the cross didn't help.

I like the theme, but it was too simple in the Crichton clue. Once I saw circle I was able to get the others after getting just one cross.

TTrimble 4:21 PM  

H(E SPILLE)D THE BEANS. It ain't great, but it's the best I came up with.

@Frantic Sloth
Oh yes, Sealtest. Also Pet Ice Cream. And (getting ever more local) High's Ice Cream. (If anyone else here grew up with High's and The Golden Skillet, then I bet I know where you're from.)

Concur about Baskin-Robbins. I think the best bet is either to make your own or go really local.

td pg -3

Smith 4:26 PM  

@DSM 7:04 and others

What the organist does when the hymn is over but people are still doing whatever like getting back to the pew... playing a variation a few times until things settle down. Or as you said, waiting for the next thing to happen.

albatross shell 4:30 PM  

Why would anyone be joking on this blog? Why I never!

albatross shell 4:39 PM  

I hope someone has reported this joking to the moderators. I'm sure they'll do something. They'll take bribes considering Rex's low wages.

Barbara S. 4:54 PM  

@BEE-ER (3:48 PM)
And PORPHYRY.

pg -5

Joe Dipinto 5:17 PM  

Flavor Of The Moth.

I seem to remember that from the recent past. Somebody here got a "bad moth taste" from their wine. GILL, maybe?

sixtyni yogini 5:19 PM  

Yay RUMI! ❤️
(There’s a pun in his name waiting to be clued.)

This was just fast fast and easy (for me.)
But the any cleverness of shape theme being upside down and/or backwards escapes me.
Feel like I’m missing something. Maybe I’ll reread Rex’s review…
🤗🧩🤗

pabloinnh 5:39 PM  

Couple of things:

As far as I know, SEAGLASS is that green (usually) glass you collect on the beach. All the sharp edges have been smoothed off by wave action We have jars full of it.

Our "local" ice cream is Ben and Jerry's. It's pretty damn good, and their plant is Vermont's most visited tourist attraction.

@GILL I- The first word I heard years and years ago on entering Spain from France in our bus was cabron!, as someone cut off our driver. Written and spoken accent on the "o", for anyone who might need such information.

Colette 6:08 PM  

@roomonster: Loved your joke! Thank you.

bocamp 7:12 PM  

@TTrimble (4:21 PM) 🤞

I betting on you; nothing you don't know. 👍
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Fells54 7:33 PM  

RE: Vamp. There’s an episode and The Newsroom Read the Teleprompter says “vamp” meaning, “make stuff up” because they’re waiting for more information on the story to come in. Still, all I can think of are vampires.

kitshef 7:47 PM  

@TTrimble - I remember High's, but we preferred Gifford's.

TTrimble 8:19 PM  

@bocamp
Thanks, but I'm not so confident as that. I'll say that the longest word was a lucky guess, and a real eye-roller.

Plus -- I really have other things I ought to be doing instead. :-(

@kitshef
Probably not far from the geographic location I have in mind.

Smith 8:25 PM  

@Trina 9:10
Alphabet...

Andrew Heinegg 8:33 PM  

Yours is the comment of the year, IMO.

GILL I. 9:06 PM  

@Joe Dip... My moth runneth over....I think?
@pablito. You noticed I made it a "poquito" nicer? Cabronazo...cabronito....? I left out the cojonudos because I'm too polite...BUT EL VITI HAD THEM. Remember: El Viti, El Viti, el Viti es cojonudos..... Como El Vito, no ay ninguno.... ?

JOHN X 10:26 PM  

Thank you for your support and kind words. I managed to escape completely intact.

Kids, take it from a pro: never mix mescaline and grain alcohol if you're flying an airplane. Just say no.

God bless you all.

slurry 12:58 AM  

Oooohhhh I could not parse that as "ill." I was convinced it was III and scratching my head. Now that I look closely there's a slight spacing difference between the first/second letter and second/third letter, but the letters themselves look pretty identical in the app! Thanks for the explanation.

Shé di Felina 7:43 AM  

@slurry Ohhhhhh! I had the same experience. Let the cross fill it in and never came back to it to question but now it makes sense.

Preferred Customer 10:23 AM  

OLBLUEEYES & ANEYE -- should this be allowed? I thought that kind of duplication was supposed to be eliminated.

PC

spacecraft 11:31 AM  

Challenging. Had to guess at a couple spots. RFID is too new for me; IHAVENOCLUE. And why, oh why, is a RASP clued specifically as a farmer's tool??? This TYPEOf clue is mean-spirited in the extreme, a sign that the constructor (or editor!) really does NOT WANT you to solve it.

Also never heard of a HOTSECOND. the HOT seems superfluous. I do recall the "New York minute," sometimes intensified by "HOT," but geez, isn't a second hot enough already?? Then there's RUMI, definitely not a Wednesday name.

My DOD, in fact FLAVOROFTHEWEEK and longer if I can manage it, is SOFIA Vergara. Nine U's would thrill @M&A. Birdie, for the triumph points.

thefogman 11:33 AM  

Nice one. YES, it HAD a few UGH moments - RFID and ARNE etc. - but I RATE it a B+ anyways because Kate Hawkins URNS it.

Burma Shave 11:43 AM  

TOO HOT

As TOO SOFIA, IHAVENOCLUE, why she'd PASSTHEBUCK:
FLAVOROFTHEWEEK on THE MENU, not a HUMDRUM UGH.

--- ROB MCKAY

Anonymous 1:00 PM  

Seems vaguely familiar!
https://crosswordfiend.com/2020/08/12/thursday-august-13-2020/#wsj

Anonymous 1:02 PM  

The rasp is clued as a farrier's tool.

Diana, LIW 2:17 PM  

After all that, I had a one-letter DNF. Considering I'm not at all into sports, sci fi, current toons...at least the Periodic Table didn't raise its ugly head. :-) Don't know if I should weep (UGH) or celebrate. The latter, methinks.

Especially with the NW corner being a Natick of epic proportions for me. Not a gamer and haven't seen the dino movie.

so all in all I win at horseshoes again. bring on the farrier

Diana, Lady-in-Waiting for Crosswords

Anonymous 3:48 PM  

Wow, the 8/13/20 WSJ puzzle referenced a couple comments above had MICHAEL CRICHTON and FLAVOR OF THE WEEK in the exact same spots in the grid!

Better give the WSJ constructor props for being the first to notice "circle" backwards inside MICHAEL CRICHTON.

thefogman 12:22 AM  

I retract my former comment. It looks like the constructor borrowed heavily from another constructor’s puzzle. Either that of it’s a strange coincidence…

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