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Thursday, December 11, 2025

Constructor: Kevin Curry

Relative difficulty: Easy


THEME: "What do I have to do to solve this clue?" — theme clues are lists of items separated by ellipses; answers are what you, the solver, have to do in order to understand each list:

Theme answers:
  • DREAM TEAMS (17A: SEAL ... SWAT ... B ...)
  • PICTURE PERFECT (28A: Utopia ... 10 ... ideal ...)
  • IMAGINE DRAGONS (45A: Puff ... Komodo ... Smaug ...)
  • THINK TANKS (61A: Fish ... scuba ... Army ...)
Word of the Day: IMAGINE DRAGONS (45A) —
Imagine Dragons
 are an American pop rock band formed in 2008, based in Las VegasNevada. The band currently consists of lead singer Dan Reynolds, guitarist Wayne Sermon, and bassist Ben McKee. They first gained exposure with the release of their single "It's Time", followed by their debut album Night Visions (2012), which resulted in the chart-topping singles "Radioactive" and "Demons". Rolling Stone named "Radioactive", which held the record for most weeks charted on the Billboard Hot 100, the "biggest rock hit of the year". MTV called them "the year's biggest breakout band", and Billboard named them their "Breakthrough Band of 2013" and "Biggest Band of 2017", and placed them at the top of their "Year in Rock" rankings for 2013, 2017, and 2018. Imagine Dragons topped the Billboard Year-End "Top Artists – Duo/Group" category in 2018. [...] Imagine Dragons have sold more than 74 million albums and 65 million digital songs worldwide, making them one of the world's best-selling music artists. They have also earned 160 billion streams across music platforms. They were the most streamed group of 2018 on Spotify, the first rock act to have four songs, "Radioactive", "Demons", "Believer", and "Thunder", to surpass one billion streams each, and the only group in RIAA history to have four songs certified higher than Diamond. According to Billboard, "Believer", "Thunder", and "Radioactive" were the three best performing rock songs of the 2010s.
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There are a lot of things I do when I solve: "dream" is not one of them. The other opening verbs are all defensible, in terms of describing solver (i.e. my) activity, but "dream," absolutely not. It's possible I have totally misunderstood the theme and somehow "dream" works perfectly for some unifying concept I have yet to ... imagine. But right now, "dream" is superbad, and not in a good way. In a bad way. The other themers get better as they go along, in terms of instructions to the solver (i.e. me) as to how to make sense of the various lists. But I still can't say I think much of this theme—it really seems like the kind of theme that could use a revealer. I don't mind inferring a theme now and then, esp. on a Thursday (the allegedly trickiest of days), but this one could've used some kind of payoff. But I think the thing that's *really* bugging me is "dream." Still hung up on that outlier. Too bad CONSIDER or ENVISION don't occur at the front of any familiar phrases. They beat "dream" silly in terms of describing solver brain activity.


Another problem with this puzzle was it was way, way too easy. No resistance anywhere except the themers. Well, not *no* resistance. I had a weirdly hard time getting the center Downs in this puzzle at first pass. I'm sure PAPER is a staple of art class, but it's such a general, non-art-specific word that it never occurred to me (32D: Art class staple). I have no idea what kind of "art" we're dealing with. I assumed painting and wrote in the crosswordiest five-letter answer I could think of: EASEL. Getting to ENDED (?) from [Quit] was also not straightforward. I wouldn't swap those two words out very often, though I can see (if I squint) how one might. "I quit my job" (sure), "I ENDED my job" (what?). "I quit smoking" (great!), "I ENDED smoking" (what, like on the whole planet?). Didn't quite line up in my ear, those two. As for RINSE, it was the first thing I wanted, but I didn't trust it at all because ...well, the clue is written so weirdly. 30D: Hand sanitizer eliminates the need to do this ... it's odd. It kind of suggests that if you have wet hands (and thus have a "need" to RINSE), you can just use hand sanitizer and then you won't have that need. I mean, if you have a need to RINSE, you have a need to RINSE, and hand sanitizer does not "eliminate" that. Hand sanitizer doesn't supplant "rinsing," it supplants washing. I know what the clue means, but the phrasing is really awkward to my ear. So I definitely thought of RINSE but didn't trust it, especially since I couldn't get the adjacent 5s to work. But then NINA was a cinch (35A: Columbus's smallest ship) and eventually SANDPIT became obvious (38A: Landing area in a long jump) and this "problem" area wasn't really much of a "problem" after all.


The puzzle did have one winning element, and that's the stunning POPEMOBILE / "I GOT A WOMAN" pairing. Two great answers that create a deeply pleasing mental picture—the pope cruising along blasting Ray Charles out his windows. "I GOT A WOMAN" is a great song—the kind of song that's so great, you find yourself happily singing along to completely misogynist lyrics. Too catchy to resist. Just ignore that "woman's place is in the home" part, you'll be fine!:

She's there to love me
Both day and night
Never grumbles or fusses
Always treats me right
Never running in the streets
Leaving me alone
She knows a woman's place
Is right there now in her home 

One little problem, though. The actual title of the song appears to be "I'VE GOT A WOMAN"


Seems like a significant error on the NYTXW's part. But I love the song too much to get into it. Oh, wait, according to wikipedia, the title is "I GOT A WOMAN," but it was "originally titled" "I'VE GOT A WOMAN." Not sure why it changed. Again, don't really care. Just loving the song.


I wonder how much of the NYTXW's core audience is familiar with IMAGINE DRAGONS. Extremely popular band, by the usual metrics, and yet ... I'm not sure about the cultural penetration of that band to demographics older than millennials. I mean, I've known who they are for a long time, but I don't know them. Like, I could name one song, and I hear them precisely never. Pop radio just doesn't SEEP into everyone's lives the way it feels like it did decades ago. The ensiloing effect of extreme personalization. We don't experience culture that's not "ours" because we don't have to. I expect some sizable contingent of older solvers to have no idea who they are, in a way that a similar contingent of older solvers 50 years ago would not have been able to avoid knowing who, say, the Beatles or the Stones or even the Doors were. Anyway, IMAGINE DRAGONS is not really my thing, but their name now makes me laugh because it makes me think of this very funny Spotify Wrapped bit by comedian Josh Johnson:

["I looked at the data, and you've been listening to a lot of IMAGINE DRAGONS"]

Bullets:
  • 5A: Greek goddess swallowed by her father and rescued by her future husband (HERA) — they left off "... who is also her brother."
  • 40A: Sign for cheap admission (SRO) — short for Sit Right Overthere. Or Slash-Rate Opera, I forget which.*
  • 48A: Take inspiration from (OWE TO) — not feeling this one at all. Being indebted to and being inspired by are different things. Nearly every other clue for OWE TO in NYTXW history has understood this. But then in 2024 people started trying to be "original" at the cost of clarity and accuracy, and now here we are. Look, OWETO is not good fill, so don't give solvers any reason to dwell on it. Clue it the boring old way so people can move on to better things.
  • 62D: New Zealand parrot whose name sounds like a Korean automaker (KEA) — just [New Zealand parrot] is fine. Everyone should know about the KEA, the amazing bird that saves us from having every KEA clue be [Mauna ___]. Precisely the kind of crosswordese I can get behind. More KEA I say, and none of this condescending "sounds like" baloney in the clue. Let the KEA soar free!
[Trash parrot!]

And now it's time for πŸŒ²πŸˆHoliday Pet PicsπŸ•πŸŒ², and boy do I have a lot of them. We'll see if I can get through all your submissions by the end of the year. Tall order. Here we go.

First up we've got Mary, with a Christmas past / Christmas future set. I'm just gonna give you her note in its entirety:
I need to send 2 photos this year. From 2022, my husband Dale wearing his red Christmas shirt and reading the paper with Henry on his lap. I lost them both this year – Dale to dementia and Henry soon after. After my granddaughter rescued 2 kittens that had been abandoned in an open pet carrier they became my early Christmas present. Pepper and Curry are delightful companions and add some spice to my life!
[sweet newspaper lectern baby!]

[why won't my cats do this?]
[Thanks, Mary!]

Next we have Rudy, who decided to dress up as Santa, and Leo, who thinks the belt is all wrong
[RIP Leo, who died just last week]
[Thanks, Ted!]

Here's Beezus the red-nosed reindeer ... enduring the season ("Shockingly compliant"). 
[how could the other reindeer be mean to this sweet baby!?]
[Thanks, Heather!]

Kiwi here got his "holidays" confused, but we're gonna let him in anyway. Here's Kiwi sitting beneath his killer cat-bat balloon. That's Halloween, sweetheart. Or maybe that's just what Santa looks like in Kiwi's mind, who knows?
[Killer Cat-Bat is gonna find out if you've been naughty or nice and brother let me tell you you better hope the answer ain't "naughty"]
[Thanks, Paula!]

And finally today, Bianca. She sees you when you're sleeping. She sees you watching Pride, Prejudice, and Mistletoe. She sees you regifting that ugly sweater. She sees you.
[Thanks, David]

That's all. See you next time.

Signed, Rex Parker, King of CrossWorld

*actually, Standing Room Only  

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134 comments:

Stan Marsh 6:14 AM  

I got a woman is what Ray sings at least several times in the song. Someone at Atlantic either missed that or tried to clean the lyrics up grammatically. Agree with your objection to Dream Team.

Bob Mills 6:15 AM  

This didn't seem like a Thursday...no gimmicks (unless I missed them), no manipulation of the grid, and a vague theme without a revealer. Easier than most Thursdays. I had never heard of XKCD, so when the music sounded I was stunned. Could that possibly mean "Ten kilometer certificate of deposit" ???

Anonymous 6:18 AM  

Hand sanitizer eliminates the "need" to rinse in that it's alcohol based and quickly evaporates, thus leaving no suds to be washed away. I guess.

Anonymous 6:28 AM  

I’m old, and I had no trouble with Imagine Dragons, or any other clue in this puzzle. I kept thinking, What is this, Monday? Never occurred to me to read the verbs — dream, imagine etc.— as descriptive of the solving process. They just seemed (imprecise) ways of hitting on the unifying category for these lists of words, with their very misleading ellipses (which ordinarily denote elisions). I welcome non-rebus trickiness — think outside the box! — but this was very disappointing for a Thursday.

Anonymous 6:29 AM  

Omg google this brilliant comic.

Tom F 6:30 AM  

“We’re on a mission from God!”

Puzzle was so easy I hit a <10 Thursday record…

Conrad 6:33 AM  


Easy. I didn't understand the clues at first but they weren't needed.
* * _ _ _

One overwrite, rOts before LOOT for "Spoils" at 13A

One WOE, ENID Blyton at 56D

Stuart 6:33 AM  

I have no problem with dream. My only complaint is that this isn’t a Thursday puzzle in terms of difficulty. It’s more like Tuesday-ish

tht 6:39 AM  

XKCD is a kind of comic for nerds in the positive sense of that word: if you're into math or computer science or philosophy, then you'd likely be primed to appreciate its humor, which is more highbrow than that of most comic strips. From Wikipedia: "Munroe states on the comic's website that the name of the comic is not an acronym but "just a word with no phonetic pronunciation"."

Anonymous 6:42 AM  

Your Kea clip took me back to a very fond memory of staying at the Hermitage on Mt Cook, NZ Southern Alps. All the hotel rooms had signs warning guests about kea's thieving behaviour ... We left the balcony door open one day and returned to find the packets of afternoon tea biscuits smashed and scattered, and a sliver bracelet of mine missing from a bedside table.

Anonymous 6:51 AM  

You’re new here Anonymous; Bob doesn’t know what Google is either!

Anonymous 6:54 AM  

Wayyy too easy but I thought the theme was cute. I guess you dream “of” stuff when you’re awake, but close enough for me.

Got POPEMOBILE with 0 crosses and not sure the clue actually makes sense, but it’s a very fun answer.

Anonymous 6:54 AM  

I’m relatively new to the world of crosswords, but this seemed to be the easiest Thursday I’ve ever done.

Anonymous 7:06 AM  

Check these out:
https://xkcd.com/2957/
https://xkcd.com/2896/

Anonymous 7:08 AM  

I don't know the group imagine dragons but the komodo dragon is a real and not imagined creature.

Anonymous 7:15 AM  

Surely you must have met a little resistance when solving OHMS

Anonymous 7:20 AM  

Easiest Thursday in 5 straight years of solving. Set a new PR by quite a large margin.

Anonymous 7:24 AM  

@Mary
Thank you for the lovely photo of your dear, lost friends. You have steered me away from my terrible habit of wallowing in misery at this time of year as I remember and miss my own two- and four-legged friends. I hope you are managing (not the cats who we know can’t and won’t be managed) and enjoying good memories as well as making new ones.
Sometimes the best thing about this blog is the community.
Signed,
Anon

tht 7:27 AM  

An absurdly easy puzzle for a Thursday. I think I beat my Tuesday time. Almost no resistance at all. I guess one answer that was not immediate was one Rex commented on: PAPER.

It would be interesting knowing what Ray Charles thought the title of the song was. (We have Stan Marsh suggesting that perhaps the title's grammar was fixed by someone at the record company.)

The orthography of the clue for 18D, Un-solid-ify (MELT), looked kinda weird, and I wondered at first whether there was a Thursday gimmick thing happening there. But no, I think the explanation is that they hesitated over whether "unsolidify" is a legit word -- and indeed I get the red underline from Spellcheck -- and so they put in hyphens to counter any IMAGINED objections. ("Unsolidified" is solidly in the dictionary, but I get the red underline there too. I didn't see "unsolidify".)

Hmm... I see Rex's objection to DREAM. It's a close call. There was no objection to IMAGINE, and "DREAM up" is very close to being equivalent to IMAGINE, and now you just remove the one little word "up", et voilΓ ! Similarly, "dream of" (I'm... dreaming of a white... Christmas) is close to if not exactly the same as "think of". I think that makes it pretty close to being okay. OTOH, the verb "dream" without additional assistance from a helper word like "of", "up", or "that", seems to function mostly as an intransitive verb, so without taking a direct object like TEAMS -- might that be what's at the root of Rex's problem? (Ya think we're overthinking this thing here?)

I'm hoping next Thursday's puzzle feels more like a proper Thursday puzzle -- this feels one out of place. Maybe trickier cluing here and there would have spiced it up.

Rick Sacra 7:29 AM  

Agree--this was the easiest Thursday ever. Could have been a Tuesday! 9 minutes for me. I did enjoy seeing XKCD, and the POPEMOBILE in the grid today, and I actually enjoyed the theme--a clever way to rethink clues for a theme. Thanks! Off to work....

Neil 7:33 AM  

Awesome comic. Was *SO* excited to see this here. And astonished that Rex didn’t mention it. Gotta be the first time its appeared in the crossword, no. The only thing I can assume is that Rex didn’t notice it

SouthsideJohnny 7:46 AM  

No complaints from me regarding the difficulty level, as I thought most of the clues were still Thursday-worthy, even if they are a bit on the easy side as we warm up for the weekend (at least figuratively). Having to imagine (or dream up, or decipher) the theme entries provided enough of a challenge for me.

Having said that, I did have an epic crash and burn to close this one out (in what must have been an almost slap-stick, comical style). It was that tiny 4x5 section in the far SE that did me in. I don’t understand the clue for GOAT (Pan in the butt?). Maybe it’s a Peter Pan reference - I suspect there may be a DOH in there when if I finally get it. I’m helpless when it comes to technology, so I didn’t make the ECHO / ALEXI connection, while ENID and XKCD remained blank as well. So, a pretty spectacular DNF for me, even on a Thursday that’s easier than usual.

Anonymous 7:48 AM  

My best Thursday time - and that was with hunting down a typo!

Lewis 7:48 AM  

[Hack … coping … buzz]


SEE SAWS

Lewis 7:49 AM  

[Down … park … dare]


SEE DOUBLE

Irene R. 7:51 AM  

Try as I might over these many years, when doing crosswords (but not in real life) I can never get these straight:
Epsom Salts/Downs
Epson Printers
Buddy Ebsen

Otherwise, why so early-week easy on a Thursday?

mmorgan 7:52 AM  

Contra Rex, the outlier for me was IMAGINE DRAGONS. The others had the virtue of being real things that people actually say (and I don’t mind the stretch on DREAM at all), but IMAGINE DRAGONS might as well have been Conceptualize Bananas to me, since yep, I’m older than Millennials. Wasn’t hard to get, though.

Eric NC 7:58 AM  

What a great find. Never heard of XKCD before but now I’m hooked.

JJK 8:03 AM  

Really easy and not tricky, which Thursday should be, so maybe it’s Tuesday today? And after a Wednesday that I found hard-ish. But I enjoyed it. Nice to have both JIMI and Ray in there. I’m old, but I’ve heard of IMAGINEDRAGONS, a great name for a band.

Wonderful holiday pet pictures ❤️

Andy Freude 8:03 AM  

The big guy nails it again this morning. A quick solve, even though I muffed two consecutive downs, ENDit and PAint, which made that center a bit knotty.

And I actually started filling in I’ve GOT . . . before noticing that it wouldn’t fit.

And even though my house is blissfully pet free and I’m a bit of a Grinch when it comes to the holidays, I gotta admit that I do enjoy these pet pictures each year. Keep ‘em coming!

Lewis 8:05 AM  

Oh, what a quirky and lovely concept for a theme. This is a one-of-a-kind that fits no theme genre, IMO. Bravo, Kevin, for coming up with it.

I especially like the three theme answers where the first word in the well-known phrase is not a verb – like the adjective THINK of THINK TANKS – but in the repurposed phrase it’s transformed into a verb.

It’s a tight set, too. These theme answers are hard to come by (though my nerdy brain had a blast trying). Amazingly, Kevn also found theme answers that fit symmetry.

And [Pan in the butt?] for GOAT? Mwah! Spectacular!

I also liked seeing the PuzzPair© of EMCEE and a backward TOOL, which evoked MC Hammer.

So, I had a great time with this, Kevin. Thank you!

RooMonster 8:13 AM  

Hey All !
Have to agree with Rex today about DREAM. A bit too far off the edge of picturing things in your mind. If you're sleeping, sure, but these are supposed to be cognizant things. DayDREAM, maybe? Uh-oh, it's starting to get Lawyerable.

Out "local" band here in Las Vegas, IMAGINE DRAGONS. I've been out here since 2007, coming up on 20 years! My goodness, time flies. Living here is just like anywhere else. It's a city, The Strip is its own separate thing. Most (maybe a wrong generalization, how about a chunk?) people who live here don't go there unless to see a show they've always wanted to, or when relatives or friends come in to town. Life happens in a regular way. Traffic, Walmart, crazy people ...

Neat Theme idea. Here's one:
Finished ... Direct ... Via
SEE THROUGH

Had bEfIT in before MERIT, as had E_FECT in, and thought about EFFECT. Plus, it gets another F. 😁

ONE G or O NEG? That is the question for cluing. Fill, ITS OK. Pretty nice, actually. Nice to get an EPEE sighting.

Welp, hope y'all have a great Thursday!

Two F's
RooMonster
DarrinV


Anonymous 8:15 AM  

This felt unusually easy for a Thursday and it turned out to be my best Thursday time ever. That was with my wife stopping in the room to chat about something for a moment.

As for Imagine Dragons, I'm very much a Millennial. I figure everyone has heard of them, but I don't know anyone who likes them or listens to them. I'm pretty sure they're frequently played as bumper music during football games.

Anonymous 8:20 AM  

Found this very easy for a Thursday. Can someone explain Goat answer for 47 down clue (pan in the butt?).

Lisa B 8:25 AM  

My mom was in Memory Care and I'd play her Frank Sinatra and 50s songs from the crooners from my Millenial son's Spotify. His Wrapped was hilarious!

Bob Mills 8:28 AM  

I have to reply to the anonymous sarcasm that followed my tongue-in-cheek posting about XKCD. I didn't mean it to be funny, only to highlight the absurdity of using four consecutive consonants that stand for nothing in a crossWORD puzzle. ZJFQ, everybody!

Rex Parker 8:32 AM  

🫑

Rex Parker 8:35 AM  

Pan is a goat/man and the part of him that is goat is his hindquarters, or “butt”

Beezer 8:39 AM  

I guess I’m here to pile on that this was a VERY easy Thursday, but beyond the easy factor, I really liked it! Wow, @Rex…you don’t think most GenXers are aware of IMAGINE DRAGONS? Yikes…that’s rough. Maybe I misunderstood. I considered seeing them in concert several years ago before I (as usual) realized that I no longer like standing up to watch groups perform, and also that I’d feel out of place. Anyway, don’t inventors DREAM up new things and ideas? Pretty sure they are awake.
Really loved “Pan in the butt” clue. Accordingly, I guess a centaur is a horse’s ass.

Liveprof 8:39 AM  

[Hard. . . Apple . . . Sparkling]

MULL CIDERS

Are you going to the opera tonight?

No, I'm Bizet.

Anonymous 8:43 AM  

Again, embarrassingly easy.
I ask again… What the heck is going on with Shortz?

Anonymous 8:44 AM  

Embarrassingly easy.
I ask again… What the heck is going on with Shortz?

Anonymous 8:47 AM  

Was anyone else bothered by ILL being described as a homophone of AISLE? Not to my ear. Also, XKCD is brilliant. If you haven’t heard of it do check it out, along with its “what if” series on YouTube.

Adam 8:52 AM  

This didn’t feel like a Thursday and was, in fact, my fastest Thursday solve by over 5 minutes.

MissScarlett 8:54 AM  

I have always thought that SRO meant Standing Room Only.

pabloinnh 8:58 AM  

Yeah, I'm with the "where's my Thursday challenge" crew. Amusing enough, but no pushback at all.

I thought more folks beside myself and @Andy Freude would have done the PAINT/ENDIT goof up. Maybe more will check in later.

TIL about XKCD, which sounds interesting. There are more things in heaven in earth than are dreamt of in my philosophy, I'm afraid. Also expanded my knowledge of HERA. Those Greeks certainly had some interesting stories.

And hello KEA. Long time no see. Welcome back.

Some nice themers, KC. If you Keep Coming up with more of these, fine by me, and hope you have some input on which day they run. Thanks for all the fun.



tht 8:59 AM  

Someone must have been listening, because boy howdy did they ever get a lot of airplay in the aughts (I'm less sure of this decade). Maybe a little too much airplay for my taste. They're inoffensive but none too exciting lyrically. (They garner a lot of comparison to Nickelback, and it isn't at all a complimentary comparison.) Arena pop-rock in fairly unadulterated form.

Anonymous 9:01 AM  

They are perfect homophones. I cannot imagine how they are not. ISLE AISLE I’LL same same same. Some people say “I’LL” more like “all” in conversation. Is that it?

egsforbreakfast 9:03 AM  

Cargo ... smarty....sweat
Octagon sides....Days a week....is enough
(answers below)

Need your bond rated? SANDPIT

I've had more than enough of current musical genres. Don't give me any more of your POPEMOBILE! Give me JIMI and Ray Charles.

Don't tell the little kids, but it is actually fo SNO in the cone. Or maybe it's faux snaux.

If a universal donor wagered a thousand bucks on the force of gravity on earth, could you say : ONEG bets ONEG on ONEG? And if you could, would you?

Nelson Mandela said, "Everything I am, I OWETO sOWETO.

The consensus that it was too easy just means the NYT placed it wrong. I still liked the sort of meta-clue feel. Very fun. Thanks, Kevin Curry.

(answers)
Fancy pants
Figure eight

Beezer 9:08 AM  

Yes, I see there is a lot of negative energy of IMAGINE DRAGONS lately. Yikes on Nickelback tht! (Low blow) Let’s throw in Dave Mathew Band into the fire, too.

Anonymous 9:10 AM  

Greek god of pastures, “Pan,” part man part goat.

Anonymous 9:11 AM  

Loved this clue! My vote for clue of the year.

burtonkd 9:11 AM  

What a great clue! I didn’t even see that somehow

Anonymous 9:11 AM  

I’ve solved harder Mondays. This was disappointingly easy. Only OHM I felt was having confidently out in LEAK for HACK …

Beezer 9:12 AM  

It does. @Rex had an asterisk on that but many times I miss his asterisks. I need a “reading impaired” version of an asterisk. (Just kidding Rex)

burtonkd 9:13 AM  

That’s a recurring joke for RP - see the bottom of his post.

burtonkd 9:13 AM  

SRO would probably not indicate cheap seats according to rules of supply and demand. SR by itself would.

David Grenier 9:18 AM  

What are the rules on the pet pics? I don’t decorate for the holidays but I do have very adorable pets.

jberg 9:22 AM  

SEEP for "slip out" was a stretch, too. It did seem to get harder as I neared the bottom of the grid; up top, I pretty much got it across-only, until the first theme answer.

It all came in from crosses, but I wonder hos many of us knew XKCD, cozying up with ENID Blyton.

Better clue for OWETO: shortened Johannesburg neighborhood.

mathgent 9:25 AM  

Complete dud puzzle.

I just finished the Natan Last book about crosswords that Rex plugged. Lots of good information about constructers we know. Including Last. He interned with Will Shortz as a teenager, working at Shortz's home.

jberg 9:28 AM  

According to Wikipedia, Blyton's various books have sold 600 million copies. I've never read any of them, though. In crosswords, if you don't want a city in Oklahoma, she's your standby answer.

Mike Herlihy 9:32 AM  

@Neil - second time today. First was Apr 8, 2017, clued as "Award-winning webcomic about 'romance, sarcasm, math and language'"

jberg 9:32 AM  

Here's a transitive DREAM! But I agree they're rare.

jberg 9:35 AM  

Pan is another Greek god. His upper body is that of a man, but his butt and legs are those of a GOAT.

jberg 9:39 AM  

I probably spent 5 minutes squinting at that clue trying to see the missing i in pain.

jberg 9:40 AM  

I'm with you, Bob. I thought that slur was uncalled for.

jberg 9:42 AM  

Seems like when you say you ask again, you really mean it!

tht 9:42 AM  

Ooh, getting salty! Dave Matthews has quite the loyal following and even has his own XM Radio station, which at first sort of amazed me, but it seems their concert archives run pretty deep. Maybe not Grateful Dead sized archives, but they are substantial nonetheless if my information is correct.

I would rate them a little higher than Imagine Dragons, sort of easy approachable adult-listening with jazz elements. He's going to be 59 by the way in less than a month, older than I realized, so success came a little later in his case -- at least commercial success did.

Whatsername 9:46 AM  

I’m on the library waiting list for the book, thanks to your earlier mention. Looking forward to it.

Whatsername 9:48 AM  

Like last week, a perfectly nice puzzle which did not MERIT being run on a Thursday. It’s kind of a shame because if it was earlier in the week, I might be singing its praises. But today, it’s disappointing on what is supposed to be the trickiest day of the week.

Aside from that, I liked the theme and thought it was quite clever. The only themer I didn’t understand at all was DRAGONS. Thought maybe they were imaginary characters in a child’s film or video game, like ninja turtles. So thanks RP, for clearing that up. XKCD was another answer which I learned is “popular,” at least among certain stick-figure fans. And in addition to noticing 28/29 Down, I thought 10/11 Down made a nice pair. If you THINK about it, one could probably learn many a LIFE LESSON in the PEACE CORPS.

Alice Pollard 9:53 AM  

to my ears, AISLE and I'LL are not the same. AISLE seems more like two syllables , not so with I'LL.

Steve Washburne 10:04 AM  

Almost my fastest ever Thursday! Liked it better than Rex, too.
Brought back a favorite memory of seeing Ray Charles live in 1963. What a performer!

Anonymous 10:11 AM  

For a slowpoke like me to get a Thursday so quickly, you know it must be easy!

Gary Jugert 10:28 AM  

Eres un fastidio culata.

I love the pet pictures soo much. ALA OOHLALA. Missed the deadline so Bailey won't be in the stable, but she's still alive and doing much better than this puzzle.

This was a cringey Monday, but slithering about on a day I expect oddities and freaks. Being in today's slot is weird and makes me sad for my favorite puzzle of the week. Alas. The NYTXW giveth and then taketh and then promises me only hope for tomorrow. It'll be themeless Friday and then Saturday and always disappointing because they're themeless and probably full of people I don't know.

I did like the four longer vertical answers. Well, Ray Charles and this song's lyrics are collectively a pile of hot garbage, but he sure can sing. There's a very nice witch called Luna in Harry Potter and I like her.

People: 8
Places: 1
Products: 12 {weeping}
Partials: 5
Foreignisms: 1
--
Gary's Grid Gunk Gauge: 27 of 76 (36%)

Funny Factor: 4 πŸ™‚

Tee-Hee: Pan in the butt.

Uniclues:

1 Sleeping beauties in the forest.
2 Be worthy of a famous yoga participant.

1 DREAM TEAMS AFAR
2 MERIT GOAT

My Fascinating Crossword Uniclue Keepsake from Last Year: What my mother called my in-home theater system during my gap year. FREELOADER'S VCR.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Rex Parker 10:31 AM  

Glad you enjoyed the book, @mathgent

Brian 10:36 AM  

I wanted “Mess Around” cold but none of the crosses worked. It would fit tho'

Paula 10:36 AM  

I am delighted that my cat, Kiwi, made it into your blog despite his confusion over holidays! He *is* a bit derpy, so...

waryoptimist 10:39 AM  

I thought the opposite: in my neck of the woods, aisle and isle are pretty straight and I'll is pronounced more like I - I'll. Id bet you could find 3 or 4 more pronunciations among this crowd!

Slowdowns at PAPER and ENDIT , as well as MOOS instead of OOPS brought me to a medium time . Also I was on the bike while solving.

Rex Parker 10:42 AM  

Respect his weirdness!

Paula 10:52 AM  

@Rex Parker I have to respect it; we all know what happens when cats complain about their humans to their leader, The Big Cat Head in The Sky. *shiver*

Bob Mills 10:57 AM  

Thanks, jberg.

Les S. More 11:02 AM  

I really don’t know what to say about this. I mean it’s Thursday, right? Do the NYTXW editors not know that? Have they just forgotten how the puzzles are supposed to progress from Monday through Sunday?

This was an easy Tuesday with a vague theme, a quartet of decent long downs, and a lot of flat-out gimmes.

Sorry, Kevin Curry, but you deserve better support. You’ve come up with some nice bits but …

Anonymous 11:12 AM  

Whoosh! Better look up.

jae 11:12 AM  

Yep, easy. I whooshed through this without really needing to pay attention to the theme.

XKCD was my only WOE, and ENDit before ENDED and mOoS before OOPS were it for cost erasures.

Smooth and amusing, liked it, but way too easy.

Greater Fall River Committee for Peace & Justice 11:21 AM  

I do decorate, but not until the week before, as a musician I'm too busy until then and am never home. But I got my pet in last year by snapping a picture of his cleaning a bowl in the kitchen and claiming he was helping make Christmas cookies. Which perhaps he was. This year I sent a pic of him gazing dreamily out a window with visions of sugarplums dancing in his head. We'll see if that runs. He is adorable.

Anonymous 11:22 AM  

I agree that the grid was easy to fill in, but it took me a bit to understand the theme, and that moved it into tricky Thursday territory for me. My first misunderstanding got me into a lather over DREAM TEAMS: "How in the heck is a SWAT TEAM a DREAM TEAM?!" Later on, after my "Ohhhh" moment of enlightenment as to how the first theme words worked, I got into another huff over IMAGINE DRAGONS: "What kind of in-the-language phrase is that?!" Thank you to @Rex for explaining and to commenters for confirming that it indeed is one. Anyway, I really enjoyed going back and savoring how the constructor had transformed noun or adjective phrases into imperatives. Clever, and a good fake-out for me.

Greater Fall River Committee for Peace & Justice 11:31 AM  

You don't get to sit in standing room, by the way, at least not in Vienna. Standing room in New York you get to see the distant stage over the heads of the seated people in front of you, but in Vienna they stuck me in an out-of-the way alcove with no view whatsoever of the stage, but sent a guy with a whip by every so often to make those of us poor folks who had sat on the floor stand back up.

Anonymous 11:39 AM  

I agree completely with Rex that DREAM is not parallel and throws the theme off.

jb129 11:46 AM  

I don't care that it was easy, except for XKCD which I'm obviously going to have to remember - I enjoyed it. And Rex's RINSE rant. Regarding IMAGINED DRAGONS & Rex's comment " I expect some sizable contingent of older solvers to have no idea who they are, in a way that a similar contingent of older solvers 50 years ago would not have been able to avoid knowing who, say, the Beatles or the Stones or even the Doors were..." OMG - who wouldn't know the Beatles, Stones or the Door regardless of what GEN they are??? They're icons!
My condolences to @Mary for her loss of her husband, Dale & her Henry :(
Loving the pet pics :)
Thank you, Kevin, for an easier
(Rebus-less) Thursday..

Gene 12:17 PM  

As a kid, I always thought of SRO as Sold Right Out.

Les S. More 12:31 PM  

XKCD seemed to ring a faint bell so I used the links provided by Anon 7:06 to check it out. After viewing about a dozen examples I opted to go clean out the goat sheds.

And, speaking of goats, "Pan in the butt" was brilliant.

PH 12:34 PM  

Thursday PB, which I certainly don't mind. Enjoyed the puzzle. Happy Belated Bday, Mr. Curry! πŸŽ‚

XKCD is great. I also really like The Perry Bible Fellowship: Cat-related comic. (Some of them are crass & NSFW, but I like his dark ones. Always a twist at the end.)

RIP Dale, Henry, and Leo... sincere condolences to Mary and Ted. 😞 Thanks for sharing them with us.

Anonymous 12:36 PM  

Imagine, not dragons, but your life has been spent attending to your calling. Spiritual; religious; meditative. Devotion to the poor and voiceless. In relative (outside of in-the-know Catholics) obscurity.

Then suddenly, in a puff of (white) smoke, you become someone of the history of the world. UnIMAGINEable to me. That he gets to ride in the POPEMOBILE is secondary to the hope that, as the first American of his kind, he can be a counterweight on the world stage to the corrupt war criminal this country insanely elected.

okanaganer 1:02 PM  

Yup very fast, 8.5 minutes flat. The only typeover I can remember was PAINT before PAPER because the first two letters fit.

Two big thumbs up for XKCD! When my friend got pregnant (sperm donor) I sent her the comic where the guy is admiring the girl's baby bump and says "Neat! You contain a factory for making a copy of yourself!", or something like that.

That clue for GOAT went way over my head, butt then I forgot to try to figure it out. Good thing you guys mentioned it.

Anonymous 1:10 PM  

imagine dragon deez nuts

Andy Freude 1:13 PM  

Ditto jberg. The generally good manners here are an aspect of this forum I really appreciate.

Carola 1:16 PM  

This was me, Carola - I didn't notice that Blogger had signed me out.

Doug Garr 1:20 PM  

I'm going to nitpick here because that is what Rex likes to do. The Komodo Dragon is not like a yeti (does it exist, who knows?). It is real not "imagined." They huge lizards live in Indonesia. Real stories include explorers and tourists going into the outback to find these creatures, and never coming back. Their clothes were discovered.

walrus 1:24 PM  

this, like many of them this year, is in no way a thursday puzzle. it should not be able to skip the marquee clues on a thursday. i'm sure it helped that i familiar with imagine dragons, but they are no less obscure than all the "hits" from the 1950s the editors love including.
hand sanitizer only eliminates the need to rinse in the sense it leaves one's hands dry. it's worse than washing with soap and rinsing with water because the rinsing gets the crud off of one's hands.

https://www.uchealth.org/today/why-soap-and-water-work-better-than-hand-sanitizer-to-remove-remove-viruses-and-germs/

Beezer 1:25 PM  

@Alice, you’ve now made me TRY to make AISLE two syllables and I can’t do it! Well, unless I pronounce the S. 🀨

Anonymous 1:29 PM  

Really? Everyone seemed to love Nancy and her manners were pretty bad. Also, what “slur”? “Bob doesn’t know what Google is”?? That’s not a slur. That is extremely mild teasing at worst.

Beezer 1:30 PM  

I confess Mathgent I about spit out my afternoon coffee laughing when I read your comment. But seriously, don’t mince words now, tell us what you REALLY think! πŸ˜‰

Rex Parker 1:33 PM  

Hi Doug. The puzzle isn’t suggesting that Komodo dragons are imaginary. “IMAGINE” is being used here to mean “think of” “envision” “picture”— if you (the solver) “imagine” dragons, you’ll understand what links all the elements of the list

Anonymous 1:35 PM  

Why wasn’t it A Team? Why B???

Beezer 1:37 PM  

Haha! If the worse thing I’m accused of is listening to an “unimaginative” band, I’m in good shape. I guess I didn’t realize ID had risen to Nickelback-type scorn. I just threw Dave in for the halibut.

JazzmanChgo 1:44 PM  

Billboard's official chart listings style the title of Ray's song as "I Got A Woman."

MetroGnome 1:47 PM  

Total breeze until the SE corner: Didn't know ENID's first name; absolutely no clue about XKCD (??!!!); "Echo Starter"/ALEXA, entirely unfathomable.

JJK 2:03 PM  

Did something happen to Nancy?

Anonymous 2:06 PM  

Finished on 47D and got a little chuckle ("Pan in the butt?" => GOAT)

Mary 2:39 PM  

πŸ‘

Anonymous 2:40 PM  

I mean I know we collectively memory-holed 2020, but we were told many many times by public health officials that hand sanitizer isn’t as effective as washing and RINSING.

ChrisS 2:41 PM  

Thanks, that one had me perplexed. Good write up Rex, love the pet pics and Kathleen Edwards has a gorgeous voice (Imagine Dragons don't)

Anonymous 2:47 PM  

I got a kick out of your commentary today. You ranted about the fact that you do not “dream” while solving crosswords but then a couple of paragraphs in you had this “mental picture” of the Pope mobile blasting Ray Charles. Isn’t that in some fashion a dream or day dream???

ChrisS 2:47 PM  

I think they confused ILL (sick) for the correct answer I'LL (I will)

Masked and Anonymous 2:51 PM  

Cool puztheme, but as @RP suggests, the DREAM themer was a bit of a stretch.

staff weeject pick: DOH - nice short & sweet clue.

Extra-good stuff: The 4 longball Downs. JIMI/METAL. OOPS & GOAT clues.

Thanx, Mr. Curry dude.

Masked & Anonymo2Us

.... and, now, newly unwittingly signal-released by the Trump intelligence bunch ...

"Classy Fied" - 7x7 themed runt puzzle:

**gruntz**

M&A

SouthsideJohnny 3:01 PM  

You and I are kindred spirits today. I blanked on the GOAT as well as the ones you mentioned.

Anonymous 3:39 PM  

Nancy opted out because she was getting trolled.

CDilly52 3:42 PM  

@Mary, I echo the comments from @Anon7:42AM, especially “sometimes, the best thing about this blog is the community.” There are many times in these fraught days, when this part of my day is the only timeI feel I actually belong.

Anonymous 3:43 PM  

Anyone else “got a woman way over town?”

Eniale 3:45 PM  

As a child I read a diet of Enid Blyton and the Hardy Boys. Had to borrow them as my parents wouldn't shell out for books I'd only read once! Luckily there were enough spoiled-rotten kids and the library to keep me supplied.

Beezer 4:03 PM  

I wondered that also! Haha…then I forgot.

CDilly52 4:05 PM  

OK, ok, ok, it took me a while to get 47D, The “Pan in the butt.” I had the answer without ever reading the clue because i was flying through the SE corner as fast as a Monday. I always go back and peruse the clues I don’t see during the solve looking for sparkling gems of cleverness. However, if ever there was a clue trying too hard in a very, very easy puzzle, that was it.

I solved this one as a themeless. Even after much post-solve analysis and deliberation, it still feels themeless. My only experience vis the theme is that the solver can tell from the ITALICS and theme clue placement that our constructor believes there’s a theme. It’s a stretch. And the clock told me that this was Monday easy for me.

I have solved Mr. Curry’s other puzzles with much greater enjoyment, and his collaborations with his wife, Zhou Zhang. Their “Escape Room” Sunday collab from (I think) this past summer comes to mind. I did not dislike this one, but the editors placed it on the wrong day.

Beezer 4:22 PM  

I looked over your post two times and I think I agree with you? I was born in ‘55 and there was a definite difference in my parents’ music, i.e. Sinatra, Crosby, Perry Como, (ooh women?), Doris Day. My parents were only familiar with who was on Ed Sullivan and, of course, they “hated” the Beatles, Stones, etc. I dunno…at least for ME and I can’t speak for others…I DO like new music, but it’s hard to keep up with! Anyway, sure there are a lot of iconic groups/artists from my personal era and a little before…like Buddy Holly & Crickets, Elvis, and James Brown. Time always tells what artists become iconic. Haha…from what I can tell Imagine Dragons won’t be in that category.

Beezer 4:39 PM  

I enjoy them also Andy. Our beloved Tess will have passed away 3 years ago this upcoming February. So far, EVERY time I consider getting another dog, my “practical” and “old” side takes over and I (we) think…do we really want to take it on? And believe me, we’ve considered a cat also but 36 years ago we had to “gift” (thanks Jackie) one of my best friends our cat Jinx when our daughter started having asthma attacks due to cat allergy. Anyway…vicarious enjoyment!

JazzmanChgo 5:20 PM  

Interesting trivia: The Overtown neighborhood in Miami was one of the country's most well-known African-American communities (some called in the "Harlem of the South") from the 1920s through the 1950s. Ray Charles never lived in Miami (he lived in Tampa in the late 1940s), but that neighborhood was highly esteemed as a nexus of Black life and culture while he was there. I think it's very likely that he slipped that phrase into his lyric as a kind of affectionate tribute. Any Black person from the South would have caught the reference in 1958, when the song was released.

Anonymous 5:43 PM  

Very easy IMO and a Thursday personal best. A couple quibbles:

1. SRO is usually clued as ‘sign of a success’ or similar. I get the SRO seats themselves might be cheap, but if the show is sold out, tickets are likely not cheap. Kinda a weird alt cluing.

2. The Imagine Dragons clue used 2 imaginary dragons and one real one. Felt a bit of dissonance using ‘Imagine’ before I fully understood the themer

Anonymous 6:32 PM  

The KEA clue should have read "MISpronounced as rhyming with..." since Maori, like Hawaiian (same origin) does not pronounce e as [EE], but as [Ι›] - roughly like the e in "yet."

Anonymous 7:52 PM  

Standing Room Only

Hugh 8:23 PM  

Like others, this was my fastest Thursday in all my many years of solving - but so what? I enjoyed it and had fun. I do agree with @Rex; though I do like themes with no revealer on occasion, this grid might have benefitted from one. Even so, I had fun with the theme and there was some nice cluing, i.e. Pan in the butt - really good. There were also a couple of very pretty long downs.
AND..,I'll never stop saying this, I'm so appreciative of @Rex's write ups and marvel out how he can break down the explanation of a theme so clearly and concisely. I would have had to go into Chat GPT, upload this puzzle and ask it for a compelling explanation of the theme to describe it to someone. Even themes that are simple and straightforward are tricky to explain. Anyway....thank you as always @Rex and thank you Kevin for a fun and breezy Thursday.

Anonymous 9:14 PM  

Certainly not Thursday worthy. Or I’ve suddenly become a grand master.

A 11:16 PM  

Brilliant post - thanks! Have a trip down 8 Memory Lane

CDilly52 2:34 AM  

I didn’t think the comment I submitted earlier was snarky but once again it didn’t make the cut. I solved this one as a themeless. Post-solve I went back to read all the clues I missed as I blazed through. One was 47D, “Pan in the butt.” Because I was just scanning, I saw GOAT and thought it was (as obviously intended) intended as a misdirect to “pain” which could also yield the answer GOAT as in being hit from behind by one - which happened to me at the San Diego Zoo, whereupon with me on the ground, said GOAT started nosh on the hem of the shorts I was wearing! To my then 8 year old daughter’s delight, there are pictures. The actual clue was much cleverer.

Overall though, I was surprised that I found this pretty dull both thematically and throughout the non-theme fill. This should have run on a Monday or Tuesday. I apologize to @Rex or whomever moderated today for whatever I said in my original comment that seemed inappropriate.

Ted 9:07 AM  

Thank you. He lived a great 15 years and passed peacefully.

Unknown 11:09 AM  

I've often wondered how Ray Charles's woman manages to give him money when he's in need, but is never running in the streets and knows a woman's place is right there now in her home.

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