Measure of rank in Maori culture, informally / SAT 10-18-25 / Panhellenic games venue / East African honorific / Something pulled in many car chase scenes, for short / Energy device that reflects sunlight / Colorful swimmers in the Amazon / Sweet doings at a county fair / Bread purchase in the U.K. / Fangorn resident / Attire for many a flamenco dancer / Culinary concurrence

Saturday, October 18, 2025

Constructor: Samuel Smalley

Relative difficulty: Medium


THEME: none 

Word of the Day: HELIOSTAT (30D: Energy device that reflects sunlight) —

heliostat (from Ancient Greek ἥλιος (hḗlĭos) 'sun' and στατός (stătós) 'standing') is a device that reflects sunlight toward a target, turning to compensate for the Sun's apparent motion. The reflector is usually a plane mirror. // The target may be a physical object, distant from the heliostat, or a direction in space. To do this, the reflective surface of the mirror is kept perpendicular to the bisector of the angle between the directions of the Sun and the target as seen from the mirror. In almost every case, the target is stationary relative to the heliostat, so the light is reflected in a fixed direction. [...] Currently, most heliostats are used for daylighting or for the production of concentrated solar power, usually to generate electricity. They are also sometimes used in solar cooking. A few are used experimentally to reflect motionless beams of sunlight into solar telescopes. Before the availability of lasers and other electric lights, heliostats were widely used to produce intense, stationary beams of light for scientific and other purposes. (wikipedia)
• • •

Undercluing made this one pretty tough at times. Presumably FIRE BOATS would respond specifically to a fire on a cruise ship, not just "emergencies," so I had the BOATS but no hope for FIRE (8D: Responders to cruise ship emergencies). [Crunchy snacks] could have been approximately one jillion things (lots of OAT BARS aren't particularly crunchy, anyways). And as for "WELL, SORTA," I do not see where anything like "SORTA" is indicated in the clue (31A: "Uh ... I guess"). "Sure," "why not?," "OK" all seem like apt substitutes for "I guess." SORTA sorta sucks. Cluing aside, that's a fairly weak standalone phrase. I feel like you are more apt to shorten "sort of" to SORTA when it directly precedes another word, like an adjective or verb ("SORTA sorta sucks"). If you say "SORTA" as a standalone phrase, you're likely to be saying the "OF" at least lightly, mildly. Anyway, I had "WELL-?????" and later "WELL, -ORT-" and still wasn't entirely sure. This is partly because both ELLIE and ELSIE "sound like two letters of the alphabet" (27D: Woman's name that sounds like two letters of the alphabet). As you can probably tell from the answers I've homed in on here at the beginning, the biggest struggle for me today was everything from the dead center to the NE. 8A: Bubbles looks like it should end in "S"—it doesn't (FROTH). 14A: Knocked out looks like it should end in "ED"—it doesn't (IN AWE). Instead of RNA, I had the NSA doing my "translation" up there (9D: It works in translation). Worst of all (maybe), I've never heard the term "EBRAKE" in my life. If there's an "E" prefix, I assume it's "electronic" (as it always is in modern coinages). When I looked it up after I was finished, I was expecting to find some type of "brake" I'd never heard of. But no. The "E" just stands for "Emergency." Silly, inefficient me, I've been calling it "the emergency brake" my whole life, like some kind of chump. Think of all the microseconds I could've been saving (although I probably would've lost much more time answering the follow-up question, "the what now?"). 


Was the experience worth the struggle? In other parts of the grid, yes, mostly. There's no one answer I'm particularly enamored with in the middle, but I think that ("WELL SORTA" aside) it's a solid stack, and HAULED ASS is kind of fun. FACE TAT is a fantastic opener (1A: Measure of rank in Maori culture, informally), and that whole NW corner is really varied and crunchy (I have to thank LAURA Bush, who was the only reason I was able to get started with this puzzle). AD HOC to LAURA Bush. I was flailing around a bit before that. I would've thought that the [Crank cases?] were the UFOLOGists, not the field of UFOLOGY. Again, this feels underclued. Not seeing anything particularly UFO-ish about the clue. "Cranks" can be "overly enthusiastic" and "annoyingly eccentric" (merriam webster dot com) about many things. UFOs are one of them, but ??? Loved seeing UFOLOGY, but not sure about that clue. When I came out of that NW corner, I was dead stuck. 


I had some ideas for what might follow TAFFY, but my first idea was STORE, which sounded weak / strange, so I left it (5D: Sweet doings at a county fair). Then, a weird breakthrough. I threw down ELLIE for the "sounds like two letters" name, and with that initial "E," could see that 26A: Present a chance to get ahead was probably OPEN ... something. That "P" confirmed the other post-TAFFY word I had thought of (PULLS), and then the "N" from OPEN really launched me, as somehow NEON TETRAS ended up being correct! (28D: Colorful swimmers in the Amazon). So I went from pretty stuck to whoosh, all the way down and into the SE before I knew it. That section ended up being the easiest for me by far.


The SE presented no problems except for PANLOAF (I make all my bread purchases in the U.S., not the U.K.) (33D: Bread purchase in the U.K.), and the fat center of the puzzle also proved pretty tractable after the NEONTETRAS breakthrough. That just left the SW and NE. Having the front ends of Dows made the SW pretty easy, although I can't say I really knew what a HELIOSTAT was (I threw the STAT on the end because ... it just seemed like a thing?). I had no idea NEMEA was the site of anything but a lion for Hercules to fight, so I needed crosses there (50A: Panhellenic games venue). My favorite thing about the SW was my own mistake—I misread 32D: Can hold one's own, in modern lingo (HAS GAME), as "Can't hold one's own," so I wanted HAS NO ... something. The phrase that came to mind was "HAS NO JUICE," which wouldn't fit, but for a hilarious second or two I thought "OMG has someone somewhere shortened "HAS NO JUICE" to "HAS NO OJ"!?!?). Look, I'm willing to believe virtually anything about "modern slang" at this point. Once I finally read the clue correctly, HAS GAME was pretty easy, and all that was left after that was the NE ... and we've been over that.


Bullets:
  • 18A: Light that goes up when things are going down? (FLARE) — I had ALARM at one point. My "things" that were "going down" was a burglary, I guess. Of course an ALARM is not a "light," but lights might be part of one, so I just went for it. I blame the perfectly placed "LA" for making me misguess.
  • 29A: Spaniards roll them (ARS) — wanted the Spanish word for "R"s here. What is that? ERS? No, ERRES, it looks like. ARS is the (dumb) way you spell the plural of "R" in America.
  • 39A: Monthly magazine that sponsors a large annual music festival in New Orleans (ESSENCE) — this answer basically filled itself in easily from crosses, which is good, as nothing about that clue was going to get me to ESSENCE any time quick.
  • 45A: Smallest member of the eurozone (122 square miles) (MALTA) — in five letters, there aren't that many options. Small five-letter places in Europe. I got it off the "M," but I think I would've got it with no help at all. Coincidentally, my Crime Fiction course starts reading The Maltese Falcon next week.
  • 3D: "There's never been a better time" tech sloganeer (CISCO) — it would be so lovely if the puzzle would spare me tech sloganeering. The world is dystopian enough, I don't need tech overlord slogans foisted on me this early in the morning. Entirely unwelcome.
  • 6D: ___ Sea, locale of a 20th-century environmental disaster (ARAL) — it's been shrinking for as long as I've been solving crosswords. Is it actually gone now? Yes, it had "largely dried up into desert by the 2010s" (wikipedia).
  • 24D: Bonheur who painted "Ploughing in the Nivernais" (ROSA) — I'm sure I knew her name at one point, but sure blanked on it today.
[Ploughing in the Nivernais, 1849]
  • 7D: Cry that might be made with a bow ("TADA!") — don't you bow later, after the "TADA!"? "TADA" feels like a flourish you'd say standing proudly upright. But I'm both not a magician and have no interest in magic, so maybe there are "TADA" bowers out there, what do I know?
  • 22D: Upright bar (GOALPOST) — took me longer than it should've. I'm used to the GOALPOSTs coming in pairs. The term "uprights" would've made sense to me as (football) GOALPOSTs. But here "upright" just looked like an ordinary non-sports-related adjective; once again, the clue denies you context as a way of making things harder.
I was supposed to go up and make an appearance at today's Finger Lakes Crossword Competition in Ithaca, but after my first very busy week at school (two new mini courses starting right in the middle of my ongoing semester), my body has decided to be sick now. Boo to cold or flu or COVID or rickets or whatever it is I have. It's a cold, I'm pretty sure, but I'm not going to go hang out in an enclosed space with a lot of people (many of them older people) while I'm sick, so pffffffffft. I'm sad. I like watching people solve crosswords in a middle school cafeteria. Instead I'm just gonna be on my couch with tea. Hope your day is better. See you next time.

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114 comments:

Anonymous 6:14 AM  

I hated this puzzle, not because it was hard, but because the cluing sucked. Rex, I can assure you that even if you bought bread in the UK, you wouldn't have known 33D and the clue for 1A smacks of cultural insensitivity. Oh, and aside from the cluing, some of the answers sucked, too (I'm looking at you, EBRAKE). I also didn't like BASSOS rather than BASSI for 38A. I know BASSOS is acceptable, but in the operatic context, BASSI is much more appropriate. In the wordplay blog, Samuel said that only 26% of his clues remained, so either the editorial team had a terrible off day, or his original clues were - astonishingly - even worse.

Conrad 6:32 AM  


What @Anon 6:14 said. I don't often hate puzzles but I hated this one. When I didn't get the happy music I just used a life line to find my error (ROMe instead of ROMA at 25A). Lots of WOEs, but more importantly lots of woes. And ELlen is another woman's name that sounds like two letters of the alphabet.

Get well soon, @Rex!

Anonymous 6:41 AM  

DNF. Brutal cluing today on possibly my least favorite puzzle ever. EBRAKE is emphatically not a thing. I'm 61 years old and have never, ever called it that or heard anyone call it that. Even Teslas and Lucids just have brakes, not EBRAKEs. Bah. I only had four or five answers--two of which were wrong--after two full passes. ELlIE, ELSIE, ELlen, ELVie could all be a woman's name that sounds like two letters; I had ELlen. Overall one of the worst solving experiences I've had in over 40 years of the NYT crossword.

Rex Parker 6:41 AM  

Thanks, Conrad 🙏

Rick Sacra 6:47 AM  

This took me a LONG time, so it was at least medium-challenging. I started last night but couldn't make much progress... I'm sure it ended up taking me over an hour. NW/SE corners were relatively straightforward but I was looking at that whole swath from the SW to the NE without much to go on for a LONG time. Thankful for NEONTETRAS and OPEN DOORS and EL_IE which helped me at least have a foothold. Unlike some of the rest of you, though, I loved this puzzle, I respect one that makes me fight this hard yet is finishable in the end. Not too many proper names, I think, so that's good, that the killer parts weren't just Naticks of 2 proper nouns crossing (I'm looking at you, CHARLIXCX!). I had all the same mistakes as @OFL so that makes me feel good! I finally guessed it must be a REDDRESS. My son has always called it the EBRAKE so once I got the E and the B, I got it. That K helped me see TWEAKS, which told me that Foams up at 8A had to be FROTH, and that H gave me HEDGE.... you know how it goes. Hung on to some mistakes too long--the L in HELPLINES made me think it was soLar something, so I was thinking they were RADarSETS. Loved seeing UFOLOGY, RNA as clued, HAULEDASS, MALTA, and TORNADOES. Thank you, Samuel, for a fun and challenging Saturday morning!!!! : )

SouthsideJohnny 6:51 AM  

I’m in the “this was not a lot of fun” crowd today. It’s not enjoyable to be quizzed on Maori culture first thing in the morning on a Saturday. It seemed like every section was booby-trapped with its own buzz-kill entries like UFOLOGY, EBRAKE, BASSOS, NEMEA, FANGORN, PANLOAF and the like.

I’d prefer some type of witty cluing or some other payoff after wading through all of that stuff, but there just wasn’t much to be had today. Sorry, but READ ME, WELL SORTA, HAULED ASS and FIRE BOATS just didn’t generate enough interest to keep me wanting for more.

Thanks to Rex for getting himself up and posting this morning while under the weather - I’ll bet the thought of climbing back under the covers was pretty tempting today, but OFL soldiered on and gave us a pretty good write-up.

puzzlehoarder 6:55 AM  

Very easy solve. It's hard to say how easy because I had filled in the NW and was working on the center stack when I took a break without pausing to catch up on South Park. Spoiler alert it was the one where Trump is trying to get Satan to lose his "demonic butt baby." The NW felt easy and the rest of the puzzle took only 6 minutes more. I'm by no means a speed solver so I expect the faster solvers to be getting personal bests today.

Not completely smooth sailing I had the ELLIE/ELSIE write over and I've never heard of a HELIOSTAT. The bigger speed bump was my ESQUIRE/ESSENCE write over supported by the QUASH/SMASH one. Even that was easy to correct by backfilling off of PDF and FLEAS. In the NE I had a very brief TWEEKS/TWEAKS write over when my poor spelling outdid itself.

I'm surprised our host didn't mention REDDRESS. This has to be the "green paint" winner of all time.

Today is the big protest. Unfortunately here in Chicago I can already here the thunder outside.

Rex Parker 7:06 AM  

“Pretty good” honestly I’ll take it thanks 😊

Son Volt 7:11 AM  

Ultra-low word count I’m sure is not easy to deal with - I think the big guy nails it again today. Overall a decent puzzle that could have been cleaner except for some truly oddball cluing. That entire center stack is pretty solid - maybe keep RADIO SETS out next time.

FACE TAT

PAN LOAF, OAT BARS are just some of the outliers. Liked TAFFY PULLS, NEON TETRAS and FIRE BOATS. 15d needed some crosses since the other three last names are 5 letters - tricky. Had ELLIE at first.

She Never Spoke Spanish to Me

Not overly difficulty - but enjoyable enough cold Saturday morning solve. Similarly fun time with Ben Zimmer’s Stumper today.

That time of year Rex - had it last week and it sucks - feel better.

Jerry and Merl

Areawoman 7:12 AM  

I am sorry to hear you are sick RP and we will definitely miss you today in Ithaca, feel better soon! My babysitter used to give us witches brew for colds which I only learned as an adult was tea, honey and whiskey....

Rex Parker 7:23 AM  

Your babysitter was a genius. I’ll be having some of that “brew” tonight. Give my regards to Ithaca!

Lewis 7:35 AM  

Samuel wowed me with his debut puzzle in 2023, made at age 16, that seemed like the work of a talented pro. I was hoping it wasn’t a one-off, that its quality would be just as good up the road. Today’s puzzle answered my hopes with a resounding yes.

Not only is this uber-low 64-worder scrubbed of junk, it’s uber-fresh, with 13 NYT debut answers, giving us not only answers but clues we’ve never seen before – the opposite of same-old same-old. That middle five-stack, for instance? Three debuts and two once-befores, and all beautifully crossed. Wow!

There were, for me, only a few no-knows, yet this fought me tooth and nail. Battling me were vague clues with many answer possibilities, making confidently putting answers down rare and wonderful.

There’s an art to having just enough cracks in the grid to let the light in. And that art – at Saturday level – was in full display today. Bravo Samuel and editors!

I loved the debut YES CHEF, as I’m a fan of “The Bear”, in which that phrase is rife.

My brain loved having its workout ethic well satisfied, and I’m thrilled by your presence in Crosslandia, Samuel. Encores, please, and thank you!

Anonymous 7:50 AM  

Thank you!
And honestly to call Moko a "face tat" feels very disrespectful so to me 1A meant a sour start.

Anonymous 7:54 AM  

Wow! Great to hear someone was on this puzzle's wavelength. It was a 35 minute slog for me.

RooMonster 7:55 AM  

Hey All !
Rex, Re x, Rex, how could you have never heard the emergency brake referred to as an EBRAKE? Wow. That word is everywhere. It's almost like saying you've never heard of an OREO. It just goes to show the things our crazy brains decide to not let in. 🙂

Good puz. Typical SatPuz toughness here. My solve ended up going NW, SE, NE, Center (although I had HAULED ASS pretty much after the NW {as we know, the NYT puzs Love ASS}), SW. Loved the F-ness in the North (especially NW).

A few writeovers I can remember, giF-PDF, nil-PiP-PoP-PEP, ELlen-ELlIE-ELSIE, ROSs-ROSA, nAb-BAG.

RADIO SETS gets a SORTA side eye. TWEAKS a fun word to see. ADAPT and ADEPT almost on top of each other is kinda cool.

Enough FROTH outta me. Have a great Saturday!

Seven F's - Puz HAS GAME!
RooMonster
DarrinV

NJT 7:57 AM  

Apparently I’m in the minority here but I’ve heard the emergency brake called an E-BRAKE far more often than the full name.

Anonymous 8:07 AM  

Scrubbed of junk? EBRAKE and PANLOAF and ARS and REDDRESS would beg to differ.

Andy Freude 8:13 AM  

“Personal bests today”? Hardly. I’m no speed solver but pretty fast (middle of the pack in the one tournament I entered), and today was more like a personal worst. About half again my average Saturday solve time. Even Rex, in his current state of debilitation, found this one “medium.” I kneel in awe of those of you who found this puzzle anything other than super tough. (And also wish you a speedy recovery, Rex.)

Bob Mills 8:15 AM  

Hurrah! First time I've solved a Saturday without cheating that Rex didn't think was "easy." For a long time I only had LAURA (Bush), because everything else seemed vague. I also had "Katie" instead of ELSIE, maybe because it's my youngest daughter's name. I finally guessed correctly in the SE (YESCHEF) and progressed from there. FIREBOATS was the last brick to fall.

kitshef 8:31 AM  

Hard, which was nice, but alas not very enjoyable. Several people have complained about the cluing, but for me it is the fill that.

SE is the weakest with STAYS MAD, YES CHEF(?!?!), PAN LOAF, and DUCTED. But we also have FIRE BOATS, E-BRAKE, RED DRESS, and the ADAPT/ADEPT near repeat in other sections.

Tip of the day: don't order spaghetti MARINARA in New Zealand if you are vegetarian. You'll get a big ol' plate of seafood.

Anonymous 8:31 AM  

Am I the only person to try UROLOGY for Crank Cases before realizing the R would not work?

Anonymous 8:38 AM  

Is Red Dress like Green Paint? Dogbane as one word is a plant. I guess the question mark makes it cute and not an outright cheat by the constructor. And thanks for previous comments re: ebrake and panloaf.

Anonymous 8:44 AM  

And then there’s Essie.

Adam 8:46 AM  

Also Katie

Twangster 8:46 AM  

Surprised to see no mention yet of BWANA. That crossing with NEMEA was too much for me (had to google to finish).

At least we got a Radiators reference with Red Dress:
YouTube Video

tht 8:52 AM  

Medium? WELL, SORTA... not. Played more hard than medium for me, but I'll go with medium-hard. A couple of notes in reaction to Rex's post: if you think of the TADA as accompanied with a bow, there is no sense of simultaneity between the two; they just go together. Now drop the "accompanied" as basically superfluous. As for UFOLOGY, which I'll translate as the literature on UFOs, we can view that as consisting largely of cases of crankery, a word I may have just invented. So the cases here are not the people, but the stories they tell. Collectively, UFOLOGY, not UFOLOGists.

I would prefer either "bassi" or "basses" to BASSOS. Something about the Italian-English hybrid looks not great to me. I think one might ADAPT the cluing for ADEPT to make it more apt. I think of the adjective "gifted" as meaning "innately talented", whereas ADEPT simply means "skilled" or "competent", without any sense of being born with the ability. So it's about a foot off in my opinion. (Now, an anonymous commenter said only 26% of the constructor's clues made it into the final version, which makes me wonder what the editorial team is doing, besides inventing new ways of shoving ASS in our FACE, which they clearly delight in doing.)

I have no clear picture of what an EBRAKE is. Something to look up later.

Mostly I seem to be complaining, but in actuality I think Mr. Smalley's puzzle was good enough, smart enough, and doggone it -- I liked it for being a reasonably stiff Saturday challenge. Thanks, man!

Anonymous 8:54 AM  

I got UROLOGY before UFOlogy , even though it didn't make sense. I thought maybe it was a thing????

Anonymous 8:56 AM  

ebrake must be a regional or specific to some families or something...I along with many had never heard of ebrake until this puzzle...and my spellchecker is protesting mightily as well

Whatsername 9:11 AM  
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pabloinnh 9:17 AM  

This one fit the bill for me as someone who was hoping for tougher Saturdays. Hard to get started and lots of chipping away. The final AT of 1A had me looking for some kind of HAT, for instance. Perseverance paid off and I got 'er done, so all good.

Agree with many about the cluing "Upright bar"? To me, a "bar is horizontal, like a crossbar. Obscure clue for ESSENCE, see also NYC. I really wanted the thing that Spaniards roll to be OJOS, but of course it didn't fit. I think I was originally attracted to Spanish because I could roll my ARS like nobody's business.

TIL HELIOSTAT and that NEMEA is famous for something else. I have heard EBRAKE as clued though.

A worthy Saturday, SS. Some SORTA funky clues but fair enough. Thanks for all the fun.

And to OFL--Ojala que te mejores pronto, which is the first longish phrase I learned in Spanish I --get well soon.

Anonymous 9:22 AM  

Feel better Rex! We don't deserve you but you deserve some rest!

I know the AP style guide clings to their instruction of don’t capitalize First Lady but I side with Chicago (manual), in all ways.

I think reactions to clues and answers are an interesting reveal of one’s experience of a solve. If you enjoyed it, you’re willing to overlook issues in cluing or answers, and if you don’t, the nitpicks come out. For me, I didn’t enjoy it. So I pronounce FACETATS and REDDRESS as WASPy in their cultural projections (I say this as a WASP) myself. Are many a flamenco DRESS RED? Only if for some reason you’re thinking of the dancing lady emoji.

Agree that WELLSORTA is not a combo of words I’ve heard used.

And if peeps are going to complain that a singer who was up for Best Album at the Grammys last year, directly and frequently referenced by a presidential candidate last year, extremely commercially and critically successful, crossing MIIS (well trod crosswordese) and OSX (I’m not even a Mac user but it’s pretty widely known) is a Natick, I’m going to say the same about BWANA crossing NEMEA. Are these terms widely known? I will know them now but never heard of either so that crossing N could have been anything to me. But actually, I won’t say it’s a Natick. My ignorance does not a Natick make.

Niallhost 9:26 AM  

Very proud of myself that I finished this one. After the first pass I had nothing except PDF, which I wasn't even sure of, and everything after that I was just throwing up guesses hoping for some traction. Finally broke through in the SE, and then battled for every letter from there, ending in the NE by trying lIfE BOATS and thinking for a while that it might be sEDGE before finally seeing that the "s" could be an "H" and then seeing FROTH only to fill in the last letter to...NOTHING. No music. Finally discovered that PiP was actually PEP and voila. A huge slog but ultimately satisfying one. 56:04

Surprised not to see a comment on having MAD in two answers. Maybe because they are different meanings?

Dr Random 9:26 AM  

Came here to make sure someone had pointed out that RED DRESS was almost by definition green paint.

Whatsername 9:27 AM  

RP: Sorry to hear you’re ailing. Colds are such a nuisance but can sure make you feel miserable. Your dedication to your adoring fans is commendable but it’s good you’ve opted to stay home and rest up, which is about all a person can do.

Kind of a fun Saturday actually. WELL SORTA, anyway. I’m glad I don’t live where a person is RATED by a FACE TAT, although that may bring to mind a certain element of judgment in any society, and I can’t even bear to think about a pierced AREOLA. Nope, not even if it’s the LATEST FAD.

I had a tough time in the NE trying to find my way from the LIFE boat to the FIRE BOAT, FROTH for bubbles never entered my mind, and I struggled with EBRAKE. I know what it is, but don’t normally hear it referred to as such so it didn’t immediately register. Most OAT BARS, at least the ones I like, are more chewy than crunchy. I just was not in the same mindset as the constructor up in that area for some reason. But despite my quibbles I won’t STAY MAD.

Not sure I’ve never seen a NEON TETRA but now I wonder if the Spanish ones only wear RED. And today I learned UFOLOGY, HELIOSTAT, and PANLOAF. Does that come with MARINARA? YES, CHEF.

Whatsername 9:30 AM  

In defense of OFL, I’ve never heard an emergency brake referred to as an EBRAKE either, and I’ve probably been driving a few years longer than he has, give or take a decade. As Anon suggests, maybe it’s regional.

egsforbreakfast 9:45 AM  

I can't decide whether I'd rather have a FACETAT or a HELIOSTAT.

Teacher: Class, how do you spell "gauche"?
LAURA: Does it start with "G"?
Teacher: Very good, LAURA. You'll probably be the First Lady to win a spelling bee.
Ted: Can UFOLOGY?
Teacher: "U"would be a good guess if we were spelling DUCTED. But there RNA and a "U" following "G" in gauche. But how do we finish the word?Any ideas?
RAUL: WELLSORTA. Whenever I need inspiration, I think of Che.
Teacher: Exactly! Class, I am INAWE.

My two letter woman was ELLEN. With ELSIE, Ellie and Katie accounted for so far, I wonder how many there might be.

I thought this puzzle was crunchy as an OATBAR, which is good on a Saturday. Thanks, Samuel Smalley.

PS. I hope to see you all at No Kings day unless you're sick on you couch (get well soon, Rex).

Anonymous 9:48 AM  

I also misread that "can" as "can't". Held me up for the longest time. So strange

Alistair Crowe 9:48 AM  

Yup. This was my least favorite in awhile. Ebrake actually made me a tad angry. It passed in a couple of seconds because it's a crossword answer, but still starting weekend off with that instead of a difficult, had me stumped, but satisfying answer not ideal.

mathgent 9:56 AM  

BWANA at 38D reminded me of Bwana Devil, the first feature-length color movie in 3D. I saw it when it came out in 1952. Spears came flying out of the screen at us.

Anonymous 10:00 AM  

I live on an island in the PNW that is accessible only by boat. If we have a medical emergency and need to get to the mainland, our options are helicopter or our very own emergency FIRE BOAT. In fact, from my hiuse I can see all of the comings and goings of the FIRE BOAT. That’s what everyone calls it. I still didn’t get this answer until the very end. But I finished this puzzle without lookups- and felt a real sense of accomplishment.

Anonymous 10:03 AM  

No mention of the two MADs?

pabloinnh 10:03 AM  

Big No Kings day here, crossing the bridge from VT into NH. I wonder if there are other interstate No Kings days.

Anonymous 10:18 AM  

gave up early on this one- wow- toughest I've dealt with in a lonnnnng time

Anonymous 10:20 AM  

I was also surprised not to see any comment on the MAD dupe! I don’t always notice dupes, but this one really stuck out to me.

Rex Parker 10:22 AM  

I admittedly didn’t think hard about the FACETAT clue but my (Kiwi) wife’s very first comment about the puzzle was “that clue on 1-Across is incredibly disrespectful.” MOKO are indeed tattoos, but FACE TAT is western slang for something much less sacred.

Anonymous 10:27 AM  

Ooof. Too many clicks of the next button on this one. The clues were too wry or cutesy or whatever. Slow and somewhat unsure progress helped out. Lots of BS in there for sure.

Nancy 10:33 AM  

In two words: IM POSSIBLE. And even worse, I couldn't have cheated on it if I wanted to. For once, it was the fiendish cluing, much of it really, really vague, rather than a lot of arcane trivia that got me. So there really wasn't much, if anything, to look up. And I was so far from the finish line, there was so much white space left and I had read and re-read and re-re-read each clue like three times and I finally said: "Enough, already!"

I have to go back and see who solved this cleanly. Anyone? Anyone who did, I would say is more than ready for the annual tournament. And not seated in the bunny section either. Congratulations! Way beyond my pay grade. Nor did I enjoy the absurd amount of time I spent on it.

Anonymous 10:45 AM  

Can someone please explain the Green Dress thing?

Sam 10:47 AM  

Medium or maybe medium-challenging. Got stuck in the SW but otherwise pretty medoum. Nothing wrong with WELL SORTA. Ellen is another valid alternative to ELSIE. Enjoyed it. Made me work but didn’t frustrate. Sweet spot.

Liveprof 10:48 AM  


The last time I looked around the waiting room at my urologist's office, we poor souls certainly seemed like a bunch of crank cases.

My mechanic got addicted to brake fluid. I said, Marvin, that's so dangerous. He said Don't worry I can stop whenever I want to.

Heading out soon to a No Nudniks rally. It's the Yiddish offshoot to No Kings. Good weather here in Jersey is cooperating.

Anonymous 10:51 AM  

Ellie as well.

Hack mechanic 10:56 AM  

Had lifeboat before fireboat, cute cross with flare there. In my world never heard it called emergency brake, there is even a slick 180 known as an e brake turn amongst other things.
Most Brits eat brown bread, the result of white bread being banned during the war. Hovis maybe or Granary, pan loaf meh.
Casey is another. Loved it overall

jberg 11:03 AM  

I thought the ADAPT ADEPT thing was a plus, not a minus.

jberg 11:06 AM  

BWANA was said a lot in old Tarzan movies, but I think they've probably been canceled.

Joe 11:07 AM  

I thought I was never going to get a single word, until I entered ARAL, TADA, and MARINARA. Then it slowly but surely unraveled. The last section was the SW, which stumped me before the light went on for BASS_S. Got the O a few seconds later, and finished!

Greater Fall River Committee for Peace & Justice 11:13 AM  

we're interstate here on the border of Massachusetts and Rhode Island.

jberg 11:15 AM  

DNF. I put in lIfEBOOAT, even while grumbling that the lifeboats were already on the ship, not "responding." That blocked the whole corner--maybe if I could have got BAG for snatch, but no. We're rushing to get ready for #NoKings Day, so I gave up rather than spend more time.

I've heard that thing called "parking brake" and "hand brake," but never E-BRAKE. It hasn't actually been used for emergencies for a couple of decades at least.

Yeah, CISCO. My late father bought Cisco shares at 2 and rode them up to 180 before he died. Then my siblings and I watched them drop back to about 7, although I did sell some to help buy a house. Dystopian indeed.

Since the clue said "a chance" rather than "chances," I put in OPEN a dOor although I did manage to fix that one.

Really tough cluing; I'm ashamed to say I'm enough of a nerd that ENT for Fangorn resident was a gimme, and my first entry.

beverly c 11:17 AM  

REDDRESS yeesh. I was looking for flounces or ruffles. Or even fruity hats. Not green paint!

jb129 11:18 AM  

Less than halfway through - there was just nothing sparkling AT ALL that pulled me in - to make me want to labor over this puzzle. So I just didn't.
Hope you feel better soon, Rex :)

jae 11:20 AM  

Medium because quite a few WOEs - NEMEA, FACE TAT, CISCO, PAN LOAF, UFOLOGY, ROSA, and HELIOSTAT. The center (hi @Rex) and the NE were the toughest sections for me, the rest was fairly easy.

…also, costly erasures - Gate before GOAL, me too for ELlIE before ELSIE, and AREOLe before AREOLA.

Very smooth, a tad crunchy, with quite a bit of zip, liked it but @Rex is right about the odd clueing.

Anonymous 11:22 AM  

Enjoyed this one greatly. Even as I sat with only three answers filled for the first ten minutes, I could sense the coming whoosh. When it finally came, the reward was definitely worth the wait!

Thank you for the workout.

Anonymous 11:24 AM  

If you’ve ever wondered why the Olympic games come every four year ( don’t start with that Winter nonsense)it’s because the Olympics were part of games held in consecutive years. The Olympics started the cycle, followed by the Nemean and Isthmian games in year two, then the Pythian games in year three then the Nemean and Isthmian games agin ending the cycle in year four.
For what it’s worth Olympic champions didn’t get laurels for winning but an olive branch. It was the Pythian games which Swede laurel wraths. Nemea went with celery,
Why yes, I did take a class called ancient athletics. Held in The Penn Museum one of the best places on Earth.

EasyEd 11:28 AM  

In doing (or trying to do) this puzzle, was pretty much lost by the oddness of the clues. But guess that tough puzzles are all about—the NYT shows us this often by publishing an “easy clues” version of some puzzles. Anyway, I bailed on this one early and made it into a Google-fest, just to see what developed. Some fairly esoteric stuff including outliers like EBRAKE and PANLOAF. I’m in awe of the folks who breezed through this, and also in awe of Rex for dealing with this through the fog of a heavy cold. Get well quick!

Teedmn 11:46 AM  

A tough Saturday (finally) where I got my start in the SE, with PDF. I was able to work my way up via RED DRESS but fell prey to the aLARm that Rex had. FIRmBOATS got me out of that rut, aha, FIRE.

I was looking for an M&A Runt Puz type answer for 31D ("Rings up?") but WEDS was satisfyingly worthy of the question-marked clue.

I agree with Rex that NEMEA screams Hercules and not Pan-Hellenic games.

UFOLOGY doesn't seem to work as a word nor with the clue. Call me a crank but...

Samuel Smalley, thanks for the Saturday challenge.

Les S. More 11:58 AM  

This one reminded me of some old-timey (for me, crossword-wise, that’s c.2008) Saturday offerings that were well enough crafted, solid even, but unable to bring on a smile. And, speaking of old-timey: RADIO SETS. Don’t think I’ve heard that since back in the ‘50s?

HAULED ASS was great. That’s when I smiled. WELL SORTA. Had WELL maybe for too long. WEDS for “rings up” was cute. HAS GAME was good. Bubbles for FROTH is one of those things that always holds me up a bit. It bubbles, it’s a verb. No, it’s a noun. The foamy stuff. Tricky enough to be difficult while still charming. But things like DUCTED, OAT BARS, and PAN LOAF were just kind of bland. Despite evoking the exciting image of a flamenco dancer, RED DRESS is still green paint.


A few high points, a lot of just fine. Not a lot of fun, really.

Ethan Taliesin 12:22 PM  

HELIOSTAT. I remember reading of Archimedes having soldiers point the reflected light from mirrors or polished shields on approaching ships and setting them on fire. As a kid I thought that was pretty cool. I just looked it up and apparently the show Mythbusters tried it and were unsuccessful in burning anything. I assumed it was apocryphal anyway. Even if it didn't burn the ship it sure must have been irritating if it happened at all.

beverly c 12:23 PM  

The game opened up for me in the NW much like for Rex, only probably 12 times slower. I was slowed by WELL maybe, instead of SORTA, and by thinking of anything except OPENDOORS. i.e. Give a leg up The singular form of the clue and Taffy Pull gave me OPEN a door - which is when I saw the dual sense of “get ahead.”

Reading the blog post you hit the nail on the head Rex with “under clued.” At least for my skill level. Still, except for entering pip for PEP, the “show errors” feature indicated all my problems were with 8A.

For what it's worth, my OATBARS are crumbly, and my brake for making sudden changes of direction in a car chase is the emergency brake or hand brake.

Ethan Taliesin 12:31 PM  

Realizing that I was staring at the last little unfilled section in NE corner for nearly ten minutes with no ideas I cheated. FIREBOATS not LIFEBOATS. Duh. I kinda liked the puzzle today though

Les S. More 12:43 PM  

Might be generational, too. All 3 of my millenial boys use E-BRAKE all the time.

Hugh 12:49 PM  

Feel better @Rex! And thank you for still taking the time for a great write-up even when you're under the weather! And yes- Tea, honey, whiskey (not necessarily in that order :o)) does wonders!
I found this one on the very hard side but I really enjoyed it - so many nice looking long ones in the grid -FIREBOATS (even thought I had Lifeboats at first), HELPLINES (even though I had Helpdesks at first), HAULEDASS (which for some reason took me forever), WELLSORTA, my last entry, LATESTFAD - my one and only semi-easy entry, and TORNADOES (nicely clued). I also liked HADGAME which holds it's own in the grid. TAFFYPULL was cool as well.
I welcomed the tough cluing, I expect that from a Saturday and this one didn't disappoint. There was a TON of stuff I didn't know but was happy to learn. Like many of us, I really scratched my head over EBRAKE but not in a "this sorta sucks" way. I'm sure people use the term somewhere...
Some fun cluing along with the VERY tough cluing - TORNADOES as I mentioned, FLARE was also fun to suss out.
Yes, this was (for me) a particularly difficult Saturday that took me forever but I had fun with the struggle and the fight was well worth it.
Nice job Samuel! Please keep them coming!

charlie s 12:49 PM  

Agree with others that it was tough today, but not unwelcome after an easier than usual friday. Mostly the NE and SW were the stumpers for me today.

My thoughts on the EBRAKE controversy: I have heard it much more in the context of snowmobiles/ATVs, where you put on the EBRAKE to stop it sliding down a hill. I call it the parking brake in a car, but I don't think of parking a snowmobile in the same way I think of parking a car. I think it's fair to have it in the puzzle, just challenging.

I think the cluing on RATED ("Was worthy of") is pretty twisted, and I'm still not sure I even understand it. If someone said 'the performance rated an 8/10' it wouldn't sound quite right to my ear. Gotta be 'the performance was rated' for me, but maybe nobody else is bothered. Or is there a different phrasing that I'm missing here?

HAULED ASS is the highlight answer of the day for me. Is it just me or is ASS becoming more and more normalized in NYTXW? I feel like it always had to be clued as either a donkey or a jerk, but I'm glad we can admit to ourselves that this is how people actually use this word.

We're blessed with the name of NEONTETRAS in its full glory, the 2nd official fish of crosswords, but nothing can ever steal the EEL's place in my heart...

Jared 12:49 PM  

Just came to complain about the BASSOS / BWANA Natick. SASSOS / SWANA? RASSOS / RWANA ? All sound fine to me not knowing either.

And yes the NE was rough. YOLO some sort of ----BOAT into another YOLO EBRAKE finally got me somewhere but damn. Woof.

Anonymous 12:54 PM  

And ESSIE.

Anonymous 12:58 PM  

Toughest Saturday for me in a long time. I appreciated the challenge. Got messed up in the SW by entering HAS Guts instead of GAME. Everything else came slow, but I got there

bertoray 1:00 PM  

Hope you feel better Rex.

Les S. More 1:06 PM  

@kitshef. I guess you don't watch enough food & restaurant type food shows. Or you don't have a chef in the family. I do and when we cook together he takes the lead and I play sous. Often this takes place in my kitchen and he doesn't know where everything is. A simple exchange might go like this:
Him: You got a 9 inch stainless skillet, right?
Me: Yes, Chef!
Him: Where is it?
Me: Yes, Chef!
Him: Just get it for me.
Me: Yes, Chef!
Him: And quit being an a**hole.
Me: I'll think about it, Chef.

Anyway, I think of YES CHEF as a term of obeisance more often than concurrence,

Beezer 1:14 PM  

Well, you aren’t feeling well! But yes, at first I put in tattoos and when crosses revealed FACETAT I kind of cringed.

Wendy Writer 1:14 PM  

Ellie, Elsie, and Effie too

Les S. More 1:28 PM  

@Nancy. Your solve sounds very similar to mine. I circled back to some of those clues three, four, even five times but, as it was only 10 o'clock and I wasn't ready to go to bed, I persisted and finally wrestled this thing to the ground. This is what happens when you're a masochist with too much time on your hands.

Sailor 1:29 PM  

Another hand up for never having heard E-BREAK. That thing in your car is a "parking brake" and it is not meant for use in an emergency. I'd say the answer is doubly wrong, being a shortened form of an inherently incorrect term. Did people learn this from watching movies, or what?

From Wikipedia, re Parking Brake: "Although it is also called the emergency brake (e-brake), that is an incorrect term as it will not stop a car in an emergency. The mechanical leverage, the size of the brake shoes inside the rotor "hat" on many vehicles with rear disc brakes, are insufficient to effectively stop the vehicle."

Anonymous 1:30 PM  

Same here on ebrake. Not sure I’ve ever seen it written out but definitely said often. I found this one super challenging but that was one answer that didn’t bother me.

okanaganer 1:35 PM  

For the second day in a row, I seem to be in the minority in that I had no problem or quarrel with this puzzle. Maybe because I do it in the evening? I'm sure I had several typeovers but can't remember them. I do recall ELLIE before ELSIE, and the reflecting energy device was initially SOLAR -something-...

Can't say I share any of the complaints or objections raised by y'all. And no Unknown Names!!... except for ROSA Bonheur. I really like that cow painting!

Beezer 1:39 PM  

Well, to use @Nancy’s words…this puzzle was well above my pay grade and it was a DNF for me. Because I do online, I go ahead and cheat (this time several cheats), and still, at the end I didn’t get the “congrats” message and did “check puzzle” to find ELlIE was ELSIE.
I won’t complain because I expect some puzzles to be unsolvable for me AND I pretty much confine my solve to a certain amount of time spent for any given day. I’m pretty sure that if I had today’s puzzle printed out and returned to it over the course of a week, I would not have been able to solve it. And that’s ok! It’s still an impressive puzzle.
Oh! One of my more amusing mistakes that I wouldn’t let go of was TAPSHOES for flamenco. And yes, I debated whether the heel actually had “taps” or that maybe they just weren’t metal taps, but I tried to make it something for a man or a woman. We shan’t go into whether shoes are “attire.”

Andy Freude 2:14 PM  

Sure, Beezer, shoes are attire. A heelless shoe is flat attire.

Masked and Anonymous 2:20 PM  

This dude's 2nd NYTPuz ... both of em SatPuzs. Must like to wait two years, between each publication.

Puz had very few no-knows. Stuff that weren't real familiar were still made up of regular words. As in: DUCTED. FIREBOATS. OATBARS. PANLOAF.

staff weeject pick from the 8 choices: ARS. The Spaniards roll with em, sooo ... ok.

some fave stuff: HAULEDASS. WELLSORTA. ADEPT & ADAPT corner. TORNADOES clue. Jaws of Themelessness & 2 photo album corners.

Hardest row award: UFOLOGY + EBRAKE.

Thanx for the feisty but fair challenge, Mr. Smalley dude. Well ducted puzgrid.

Masked & Anonymo3Us

... and now, for a bit of Halloween decoration ...

"Haunted House Apocalypse" - 7x8 12 min. themed runt puzzle:

**gruntz**

The M&A Spook

Gary Jugert 2:27 PM  

Just jumping in here before the end of the day. It took me four times as long as usual to do this puzzle and I am overjoyed at how difficult it was without the addition of a bunch of proper nouns. THIS IS THE DROID I'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR. The cluing is supposed to be vague on Saturday. It's supposed to be free of people whose name ends in XCX, or boxers from 1930. I'm going to do a longer write-up when I'm done celebrating my pyrrhic victory. I will only say that I live down in the land of Flamenco and dresses come in a whole lot more colors than red.

kitshef 2:31 PM  

@Les S. More - I feel like I watch exactly the right amount of food shows, which is none. Or at least, none since the days of Graham Kerr.

Les S. More 2:32 PM  

Wow, weird knowledge is so much fun. I knew some of that. I once ran a fun footrace with my father-in-law off the starting line at Olympia. I had heard of the Corinthian Games, which I learned today are properly called the Isthmian games (Isthmus of Corinth) and I was vaguely aware of Delphic Games (more poetry, song, and dance that athletics), aka the Pythian Games but I had completely forgotten that Nemea had hosted such an event. i think the celery bit will cement it in my memory. Thanks.

Anonymous 2:39 PM  

I grew up in and recently moved back to Natick. This puzzle was chock-full of Naticks.

(Sent from Natick)

crwdfwtx 2:42 PM  

Truly hated this one. The entire southern hemisphere from east to west was just impenetrable for me. I can’t entirely blame “undercluing” which is a word I also learned today, either. This puzzle honed in on many many gaps in my awareness and didn’t help me much with clues or crosses. Not fun. I finished by sneaking a glance at BWANA so I also feel like a cheater. Onward to Sunday!

Anonymous 2:47 PM  

Tā Moko are definitely not "FACETAT"s

ac 3:05 PM  

truly horrible clues and many answers to go with them a total drag

Les S. More 3:11 PM  

I like that cow painting, too, even though I wouldn't say that I'm a big fan of that kind of painting. There's something about the unapologetic appreciation of agrarian life at a time when Romanticism ruled, the obvious strength of those animals and the clarity of imagery appeals to me. She's still a bit of a Romantic but she's on the edge of a kind of realism embodied by her coeval, Gustave Courbet, whosw work I greatly admire. He depicted people (navvies, stone breakers, etc.) in a rather rough and ready Realist style. She's much more "accomplished" in an old-school way, but there are hints of a new direction there. The parts of art history that I love are the transitions.

Les S. More 3:23 PM  

Ah, yes, The Galloping Gourmet. A big splash of Bordeaux in my sauce and a bigger splash in my glass. I loved Graham Kerr. I loved that kind of show - which was about cooking and having fun in the kitchen - the kind of show that has been replaced with cutthroat competitions. I learned a lot from him.

CDilly52 3:30 PM  

Anyone else having their posts never showing up? I don’t think my opinions are in any way earth shattering or of such value that they simply must be included (or even read!) but in the past I have had streaks of “lost posts” and it’s happening again - no pattern, just happens. Happened yesterday.

I had to fight to get the NW done yesterday because I could not recall the artist who created such a stir by calling Kamala a Brat. That brain fart at the top nearly did me in.

Today was easier once I got a toehold. I agree 100% with OFL that the clues needed some work. Don’t get me wrong, I crave a “2 pot (of coffee) Saturday” but failing to provide the right kind of information in a clue (especially as today with common words) doesn’t give a puzzle more difficulty, it just dilutes the process of sussing things out and causes unnecessary solver frustration. It’s the clever clue that creates those exciting “aha moments” for the solver. Didn’t have any of those today. I didn’t dislike this puzzle, it was actually fairly easy. Just a couple places that slowed my whoosh.

Getting into the grid occurred with the NW downs TADA, ARAL and TAFFY and acrosses MARINARA and LATEST FAD, AD HOC, ROMA and ARS. From those, I inferred the FACE TATs. I know that in Maori society descent determines rank and I have seen photos of the detailed and meaningful tattoos. Today, I learned that FACE TATS signify rank. I always enjoy checking the “I learned something fascinating” box during a solve.

While TAFFY turned out to be easy, the second word was tough for me. Again, the clue’s wording wasn’t clear. “Doings” did make me think that the answer required some action, but the image of a TAFFY “booth” popped into my head and wouldn’t go away and I could see the pulling machine in the booth and my brain wouldn’t let go of “yeah, sweet doings in the TAFFY booth.” That error disappeared when I immediately wanted to OPEN DOORS at 23A though, and the b in my TAFFY booth swiftly became the P in PULLS, the other obvious answer with TAFFY.

With @Rex, I have never, ever heard of an E BRAKE. Additionally, I wouldn’t say someone spinning out of control TORNADOES, but given what I had ready, the desired answer was pretty obvious. Maybe folks do say “she’s like a whirling Dervish the way she TORNADOES around the house.” Nah.

Not difficult, not very exciting, and on to Sunday.

Anonymous 3:32 PM  

Very unpleasant puzzle. The clues were not good enough, not smart enough, and, doggone it, people didn't like it.

Gary Jugert 3:37 PM  

@Beezer 1:39 PM
A tire is attire if you're the Michelin man. Flamenco shoes traditionally have metal in the toe similar to taps to make them louder and have heels that'll knock a hole in the floor.

Beezer 3:40 PM  

I look forward to it as usual! And yes…I post-Googled on the REDDRESS biz…apparently OFTEN but not ALWAYS.

Beezer 3:44 PM  

Thanks Andy…I did post-Google and find out that the shoes for men AND women will often have a “stud” put in heel/toe to accentuate the click/stomps. Yeah, I made up “click/stomp.”

Anonymous 3:45 PM  

And Effie.

Beezer 3:50 PM  

Haha Mathgent…did you wear 3D glasses? I think I might’ve gotten a little woozy with that because the first time I EVER got “motion sickness” was watching Avatar in IMAX 3D. Oof. I’m getting a headache just thinking about it…

Beezer 4:03 PM  

@kitshef…same here with Graham Kerr, and you and @Les are cracking me up! My story is when I was 16. I had watched The Galloping Gourmet do a pork roast that had been packed in rock salt. Went to visit my “big sister” in D.C. and wanted to impress her. She bought the rock salt…(she’s the BEST) and the dang roast was delicious! Yeah…we ate a lot of leftover on it though.. I remember her saying at time…”rock salt”!??

Anoa Bob 4:15 PM  

I thought an E BRAKE might be part of a race car video game, used to slow down before entering a sharp curve after which the E GAS PEDAL is applied.

I can't not see this stuff. Maybe there's a HELP LINE for this. There was a GOB of entries that needed some convenient HELP to fill their slots; FATHOM, AR, TAFFY PULL, FIRE BOAT, OAT BAR, OPEN DOOR, NEON TETRA, HELP LINE, WED, RADIO SET, FLEA, BASSO, TORNADO and STAY MAD. POC (plural of convenience) to the rescue! Earned the grid a POC Marked rating.

Anybody remember The CISCO Kid?

Anonymous 5:24 PM  

Just here to say that I sucked at this puzzle and sucked so bad I didn't even assess why. 5 mins over my average, which is already way above what I usually need these days, AND I cheated and looked up SEVERAL things when I usually look up nothing/don't cheat at all. Boo.

Katie 5:24 PM  

Yes. I was grossed out about a few tasteless clues recently.

Anonymous 5:35 PM  

Thanks for this comment.

Thrasymachus 5:51 PM  

If you want to hear one of the best AM/FM radio bits still kicking, listen to 1310 AM/96.7 FM in Dallas (The Ticket) on Friday mornings. The “E-Brake” segment puts forward 3 nominees (in clip form) of the station’s radio fails from the previous week’s broadcasting, and callers chime in, often in ridiculous manner, with their votes for the most egregious. WORTH IT but newer listeners may struggle with lots of inside jokes.

Stu B 6:08 PM  

Born and lived in the UK for 50 years. Have never heard of a PANLOAF, ever.

And ARS can, to maintain my Britishness, kiss my arse.

dgd 6:34 PM  

Too late for anyone to read maybe. What?! I said to myself. “I guess” to me hints at SORTA. Sort of stand alone is common but to my ears so is well sorta. He went around corners to criticize.

Carola 7:08 PM  

Very late to the party (travel day) but I didn't want to miss the chance to say how much I liked the puzzle, in case the constructor might be checking in. I found it difficult to get a foothold - starting out, I was very discouraged to have only ROSA and ROMA in the top half. So I leapt to the bottom and got my start with BWANA x BASSOS and chipped my way upward from there. Took a while! But I really enjoyed the challeng - and being able to finish!

dgd 7:12 PM  

I just finished the puzzle. I guess I am in the minority. I liked it.
Conrad.
To be fair to the puzzle, wasn’t ROMA signaled by the Italian in the clue? ( They don’t always do that on a weekend!.).
FWIW Ellen is actually pronounced with a schwa so it doesn’t fit. I do agree it was a hard puzzle

Anonymous 7:22 PM  

Southside Johnny
FWIW. I don’t know much about opera outside of crosswords but since opera singers come up a lot in crossworld as a long time solver I learned that male voice of a king tenor if lead role, basso if secondary.

dgd 7:25 PM  

I might be wrong but I thought a red dress was iconographic for women flamenco dancers.

dgd 7:37 PM  

Anonymous 8:07AM
I looked it up. Red dress is not green paint because it’s the standard dress of women flamenco dancers. Pan loaf is a typical Saturday word from another culture. Pan and loaf at least are simple English words. I don’t see it as junk.
Someone above mentioned that his son uses EBRAKE all the time. So maybe it’s an age thing. If people use it it’s not junk.
So I agree with Lewis.

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