French kiss kissers / SAT 8-16-25 / Appearance of the marine creature called "by-the-wind" / Swimwear that can be worn as shorts / 1990 novelty dance inspired by a comics superhero / Nintendo title character with a head mirror / Beauty lounge, of a sort / Evariste ___, 19th-century French math prodigy for whom a differential theory is named / Melancholy 1964 #1 hit for Bobby Vinton / Sponge brand originally spelled with two hyphens / Barack Obama's final secretary of defense (2015-17) / Practitioner of black magic / Kind of box for media watchers

Saturday, August 16, 2025

Constructor: Byron Walden

Relative difficulty: Medium-Challenging 


THEME: none 

Word of the Day: "By-the-wind sailor(1D: Appearance of the marine creature called "by-the-wind-sailor") —

Velella is a monospecific genus of hydrozoa in the family Porpitidae. Its only known species is Velella velella, a cosmopolitan (widely distributed) free-floating hydrozoan that lives on the surface of the open ocean. It is commonly known by the names sea raftby-the-wind sailorpurple saillittle sail, or simply Velella.

This small cnidarian is part of a specialised ocean surface community that includes the better-known cnidarian siphonophore, the Portuguese man o' war. Specialized predatory gastropod molluscs prey on these cnidarians. Such predators include nudibranchs (sea slugs) in the genus Glaucus and purple snails in the genus Janthina.

Each apparent individual is a hydroid colony, and most are less than about 7 cm long. They are usually deep blue in colour, and have a small stiff sail that catches the wind and propels them over the surface of the sea. Under certain wind conditions, they may be stranded by the thousand on beaches.

Like other cnidarians, Velella velella are carnivorous. They catch their prey, generally plankton, by means of tentacles that hang down in the water and bear cnidocysts (also called nematocysts). The toxins in their nematocysts are effective against their prey. While cnidarians all possess nematocysts, in some species the nematocysts and toxins therein are more powerful than other species. V. velella's nematocysts are relatively benign to humans, although itching may develop on parts of the skin that have been exposed to them. (wikipedia)

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Well I can't complain that that one was too easy. The proper nouns alone kept punching me in my (non-open) mouth over and over. ASH CARTER? (9D: Barack Obama's final secretary of defense (2015-17)). Uh ... vague whispers of echoes of memories of a long ago times, before the Great Fall-Apart. 2015-17, you say? Yes, I believe those years happened, and I must've been alive, but ... [shrug]. ASH CARTER sounds like a pop star or a movie franchise hero, and he may as well be ARNE DUNCAN or all that I could pick him out of an Obama-era politico line-up. LEA SOLANGA? (26D: Tony-winning actress who provided the singing voice for the Disney princesses Jasmine and Mulan). Again, that is a name I've heard, so that helped, but only so much. My brain just kept offering me LEA MICHELE and SOLANGE Knowles (Beyoncé's singing sister). Evariste GALOIS?? (24A: Évariste ___, 19th-century French math prodigy for whom a differential theory is named). Did he invent French cigarettes? Because otherwise, hoo boy, no way (damn, the cigarettes are GAULOISES, not GALOIS, nevermind). There are apparently still more Marioverse characters, seemingly more Marioverse characters than there are Simpsons characters, so ... DR. MARIO, was it? At least that was inferable with some crosses (5D: Nintendo character with a head mirror). The "Head mirror" is so obsolete that it took me a sec to place it (on the head of an imaginary "doctor"). Oh and speaking of the Simpsons, that was one of the proper nouns I did know. THE BARTMAN was a "thing" for like ... a month? A year? I dunno. It was early days for the show, first season, maybe. The show soon became so Homer-centered that Bartmania became a kind of quaint memory, but it was indeed a mania while it lasted. It's ... possible ... that I own a picture disc of "Do THE BARTMAN":


Proper nouns are only a part of what made this one properly Saturday tough. That BLOB clue may be the most inscrutable clue I've ever encountered in crosswords. First of all, "Appearance of..." You don't want the creature, you want the appearance of the creature? And you're not going to tell me what the creature is except by its completely unhelpful nickname? "By-the-wind sailor"? In retrospect, the name makes sense, if you know the actual (Latin) name of the "marine creature" in question: Velella. Velella means "little sail" (one of the other nicknames for this creature). Velella "have a small stiff sail that catches the wind and propels them over the surface of the sea" (wikipedia). But their appearance (allegedly!) is apparently not SAIL. It's BLOB. Which is the "appearance of" ... lots of things. The Blob, for instance. Or that thing at the bottom of your water glass you can't identify. That BLOB clue is peak Saturday clue. An absolutely pure headshake. 


Further, I needed 80%+ of the crosses to get BLOW-DRY BAR, which, like a doctor's head mirror, feels .. of the past. But I see that I'm confusing it with the hair salons in old movies and TV shows where ladies sit underneath hairdrying machines and read magazines and gossip. I assume that at a BLOW-DRY BAR they ... blow ... your hair ... dry? Look, I have no hair, and my wife and daughter are not exactly beauty-parlor people, so while I love the phrase as a phrase, it is not in my personal phrasebook. So the NW was hard going to start. After that, I was able to move consistently, if slowly. Lucked out getting ACTION HERO off just the "CT" (25D: Bond classification) ("Bond, James Bond"), which helped open up the SW. And I really lucked out with AUSTENITES, a word I basically made up as a right-sounding word that ended up actually being right. We've been listening to Mansfield Park in the car (yesterday on the way to Ithaca and back, for instance), and my wife and I have been discussing her particular greatness a lot lately, so she's been much on my mind (though we're not the biggest fans of Mansfield Park, so far—entertaining, in a way, but without any appealing characters whatsoever; the leading female protagonist is weak and easily led, and her seeming-maybe-possible love interest is a humorless prig. Seriously, the most boring guy to ever open his mouth. I hope this play they're trying to put on (so many bored rich people...) turns out a hilarious disaster. But yeah, I think maybe we're AUSTENITES in this household, though slap me if I ever use that term again.

[what plays in my head when I see BLOW-DRY BAR, accuracy be damned]
[from Golden Eighties, d. Chantal Akerman (1986)]

Middle of the puzzle was the stickiest place for me outside the NW. BOARDIES!?!?! (37A: Swimwear that can be worn as shorts). I know "board shorts." I had the BOARD part and then ... waited. BOARD PJS? I don't know! Yeesh. And the flight from New York to London wasn't OVERNIGHT!?!?! The only letter I had was "N" and OVERNIGHT fit and I was so happy, ah well. SEVEN-HOUR? I mean, I believe you. I ballpark believe you. Not sure SEVEN-HOUR is my favorite answer of all time. But it's ... inventive. Surprising. I did really enjoy solving this, it just bruised me a bit, is all.

[27A: Melancholy 1964 #1 hit for Bobby Vinton]

Bullets:
  • 28A: Sponge brand originally spelled with two-hyphens (OCELO) — I know one of the hyphens came after the first "O" but I'm not sure where that other hyphen would've gone. Aha, it went before the last "O," which ... yes, seems logical, now. This is the official sponge of Crossworld. I know it solely because of crosswords. Oh, wait, SOS is a sponge brand too, isn't it. Well, there are other clues for SOS, but only one for OCELO, so OCELO wins "official" status for that reason alone. (Actually, this is only the fourth appearance for OCELO all time, which seems impossible, but I'm afraid four appearances is not enough to qualify you for any kind of "official" status, so the title of "Official Sponge of Crossworld" reverts to SOS. Damn it! SOS is a scouring pad (steel wool), not a sponge at all!!! Sigh, OK, the position of 'Official Sponge of Crossworld" remains officially open for now. OCELO can occupy the position on a provisional basis.
  • 33A: Kind of box for media watchers (TIVO) — "box" and "media watchers" both had me thrown. "Media watchers" sound like people who keep their eyes on the news business. "Media consumers" would've been clearer here, but who needs "clearer" on a Saturday?
  • 35D: Smack in the middle of a crowd, in brief? (PDA) — great clue. "Smack" = "kiss" here. Surface meaning of the clue is tight, clean, and appropriately misdirective. 
  • 14D: Call to whomever ("HEY, ANYBODY!") — or is it more like two calls, like, "HEY! ... ANYBODY!?" That sounds more natural. Not a natural-sounding "call" to me, but I had all three "Y"s in this answer before seeing the clue, which helped (a lot). 
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157 comments:

Anonymous 6:04 AM  

It has been YEARS since I've struggled so much with any Times puzzle. The center of the grid and due west were absolute hell.

Anonymous 6:19 AM  

Ugh. Twenty minutes longer than my average time to finish this beast. Had FLOWERYBAR for the longest time because "Emergency Room Mario" seemed like it could be a thing!

Anonymous 6:30 AM  

Flowerybar (yes only thing that made sense to me initially until asking my wife) put me into 30 minute solve time for a Saturday when coupled with the onslaught of proper nouns. This puzzle was not my cup of tea.

Anonymous 6:31 AM  

I had a similar experience to 6:04 and 6:19. I typically finish in the 6-8 minute range and this took me 16 minutes. The entire northwest corner was brutal for me. I loved it! I want to be challenged like this every weekend.

Son Volt 6:40 AM  

Fantastic - Stan Newman level difficulty. All four quadrant stacks were top notch. Yea - didn’t know some of the trivia - SALONGA and ASH CARTER but the overall fill was killer.

Akon

My wife and I had delicious grilled octopus on RHODES so that went right in. Same with GALOIS - who lived an interesting but too short a life. @TTrimble could probably speak eloquently on the mathematical significance and his connection to Cauchy.

Zevon

Bad ass Saturday morning solve - loved it. Do Ben Zimmer’s Stumper with its central crossing spanners today and you’ve earned your crossword stripes.

My darling my sweetheart - I am in your SWAY

Rich Glauber 6:43 AM  

Double Naticked at Galois, Ocelo and Leasalonga, that was fairly uninferable, but managed to get the rest filled in. Tough puzzle, lots of crunch and therefore fun as hell to wrangle. Slow going at 30 minutes.

Auggie 6:43 AM  

Now THAT was a Saturday puzzle. So much I did not know or couldn't guess on the first (or second) pass, but what I didn't know or could not guess could all be sussed out from what I did know or could reasonably guess with careful attention and patience and risk-taking. Tough, challenging, fair. Exactly what I expect from a Saturday.

Anonymous 6:56 AM  

i could be wrong but, i think nancy is going to need some spackle this afternoon.

Anonymous 6:59 AM  

I had been waiting for a challenge and then I got it. Hardest puzzle in recent memory for me.

Rick 7:05 AM  

punishingly hard and without any redemptive features

Andy Freude 7:06 AM  

Phew! Ten minutes over my average Saturday time before I resorted to cheating. Now, that was a workout! More puzzles like this one, NYT, please!

kitshef 7:14 AM  

Really hard, and mostly really good. Not happy about that OCELO/LEASALONGA cross.

I was a good twelve minutes in before I felt like I had a solid foothold. Most Saturdays are done by then. I went 0-fer on the first pass through the across clues so my entry was the second down: LOPE.

Just another example of the smartening up of NYT weekend puzzles.

Anonymous 7:22 AM  

Rare DNF for me, SW corner had way too many obscure proper nouns.

Anonymous 7:27 AM  

I did not love "French kiss kissers"=OPEN MOUTHS. Not an image I'm looking for early Saturday morning.

I also did not love HEY ANYBODY. I've heard "HEY is ANYBODY there?" but HEY ANYBODY as a standalone phrase is not one I'm familiar with.

I usually find I'm not on Byron Walden's wavelength at all, but today I was right where he wanted me to be. LEA SALONGA, OCELO, THE BARTMAN, SEVEN HOUR, AUSTENITE, and others just rolled into the puzzle. I think I found this an easier time than most.

Lewis 7:31 AM  

A Walden Saturday feels like a holiday to me – and it’s been more than a year since it’s come around.

You don’t simply enter the box in a Walden puzzle. It’s more like going to another country. It has its own distinct feel. And I’m a fan of that feel. Byron takes no prisoners. He brings me to the edge of uncle, and man, it feels like a victory to enter practically every square. It’s a magnificent solve riddled with victories.

Today: A 66-word, 21 block elegant grid (both these numbers ridiculously low), squeaky clean. Okay, there’s THOS, but it’s easily saved by a terrific factoid clue. Try filling a 66/21 grid, even ugly, and you will bow with respect at Byron’s talent.

Two things you can count on in Waldenstan:
• Fabulous original wordplay clues, like today’s [Smack in the middle of a crowd, in brief?] for PDA, and [Curve that’s high and outside?] for ARCH. Two bland answers given shimmer through wit.
• Debut Times puzzle answers – 19! Nineteen! I did the math, and three-quarters of the squares with letters belong to debut answers (.738%)! Did your puzzle feel vibrant? Welcome to Waldenstan. My favorite debuts were TIGHT FIT, UNWAVERING, ROSE TO FAME, PRESS START, and the marvelous HEY ANYBODY.

Byron, you are such a credit to Crosslandia. Your puzzles sizzle. What a beaut you brought today. Thank you sir!

Ian 7:32 AM  

This was a tough one but all in all not bad. All of the proper nouns were pretty esoteric but were getable with crosses and I enjoyed the puzzle overall! The northwest and southeast corners had some fantastic fill, probably my fav in a Saturday puzzle this year. Usually find Saturdays to be inscrutable and boring but this one was tough, fair and fun! I liked it!

SouthsideJohnny 7:32 AM  

This grid is dedicated to all who have been vocal in their opposition to the recent spate of easy weekends - and boy does it deliver with a vengeance.

I’d love to see a show of hands from everyone who dropped in BLOB after just reading the clue. For me, pretty much the entire left side of the grid was one big wasteland - maybe I could abide by BLOW DRY BARS if that were the most egregious of the unknowns - at least I would have enjoyed learning something new. Unfortunately (and this is on me), I just don’t have enough intellectual curiosity to deal with stuff like LEA SOLANGA, ASH CARTER, GOAT BUTTER (?), GALOIS, DR MARIO, OCELO, The Dodecanese Islands, . . . BOARDIES, . . . BARTMAN . . . omg, that is just relentless.

So, raise a class to all of those who were clamoring for a “throwback“ Saturday - enjoy ! This one was clearly not for me though.

Rick Sacra 7:37 AM  

Yes, feels good when I can finish without cheating a puzzle OFL calls "Medium Challenging"!!!!! 37 minutes for me. The middle wasn't bad, but each corner gave me a certain amount of headache. NE and, finally, SW were last to go. GALOIS seemed right, had no idea who LEA was. Typed that in and ... surprise! got the happy music. Lovely, tough puzzle Byron. thanks! I can only handle one like this about once a month. Phew. : )

Conrad 7:44 AM  


Challenging. Sergey, Larry and I were a team. A lot of stuff that I simply did not know.

Too many overwrites to list, but the one that caused the most mischief was at 1D, where I thought the appearance of an unknown sea creature (see WOEs) might be an omen. But it was just a BLOB.

WOEs:
1A: BLOW DRY BAR
1D: By-the-wind sailor in the clue
5D: DR. MARIO
9D: Totally forgot about ASH CARTER
24A: Evariste GALOIS
27A: Completely forgot about MR. LONELY
28A: I knew OCELO but rejected it because I thought it had two L's
37A: BOARDIES
43A: THE BARTMAN dance

@Rex, I vote for Loofa as the Official Sponge of Crossworld

Anonymous 7:48 AM  

Way too hard for me. And on top of it, wrong about the one thing I do know: that fans of Emma, etc. are called Janeites, not Austenites.

Rick Sacra 7:50 AM  

The other thing I noticed was having that "X" right in the center of the grid.... nice touch !

Anonymous 8:01 AM  

I hated it

Elision 8:02 AM  

I was getting mega "eat a sandwich" vibes from this one (SEVEN HOUR, BEST ADVICE, PRESS START, HEY ANYBODY)-- guess I was the only one?

Bob Mills 8:07 AM  

Very hard. Needed one cheat, to get GALOIS. Took a while to realize "Bond classification" meant James Bond, which led me to "action film" before ACTIONHERO. Never heard of BOARDIES or THEBARTMAN. Didn't know LEASALONGA. Forgot ASH(ton)CARTER. Had "ocela" before OCELO. Yuch.

Anonymous 8:11 AM  

Naticks aplenty for me in the Midwest, with GALOIS, OCELO and LEA SOLANGA gathered there. Finally had to break down and look up the Frenchman, then wrestled the others down.

The other significant slowdown was AUSTEN fanS instead of -ITES.

I’m sure it’s just cyclical, but the Times seems to have upped the difficulty level the last couple of weeks. Even early-week puzzles have been more challenging than has been the norm.

pabloinnh 8:22 AM  

Hand up for finding this one Stumper-level tough. Had the whole right side done and nowhere to go My worst snag was remembering IMLONELY and refusing to change it forever, which made those crosses impossible. Come on man.

Best guess was the L in the GALOIS / LEA cross and somehow coming up with BOARDERS, which i think I connected with surfBOARDS. But BLOWDRYBARS? AUSTENITES? I actually thought of AUSTENphiles but it wouldn't fit. Also had OFL's "overnight" because I had the V from PAVER, which as it turned out was in the wrong place. Duh.

Nice satanic Saturday, BW, But Where did you get some of this stuff? Not from places I frequent. Thanks for all the challenging fun.


Anonymous 8:26 AM  

Blow dry bars came back into fashion in the early 2010s. Not nearly as affordable or ubiquitous as movies/TV shows would have me believe they were back in the '50s and '60s, but they are definitely a thing.

I let myself Google some proper names. Would've been impossible for me otherwise, and I say that as a huge Lea Salonga fan.

Gary Jugert 8:35 AM  

Has cambiado. Pero no estoy de acuerdo.

In a million years I never would have guessed there's such a thing as a BLOW DRY BAR, or GOAT BUTTER, or who LEA SALONGA is, or ASH CARTER, or whatever THE BARTMAN was, or who MR. LONELY was, or the mathematician, or the sponge. Soo, not my most successful outing with so much real estate taken up with new-to-me trivia. I'm not intrigued enough to go learn more, so next time they come up I'll miss 'em again. A puzzle not written for me, and probably a good thing, since so many lately have been right up my alley.

I suppose if Saturday joy comes from not knowing things, this one will thrill.

It's done and now we await the slog coming for tomorrow. I usually enjoy the Sunday slog.

And, ew, OPEN MOUTHS, HAIR TRAPS, and BLOBS.

I liked HEXER and the hazardous GRATES threatening those lovely high heels.

People: 7
Places: 3
Products: 7
Partials: 4
Foreignisms: 2
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Gary's Grid Gunk Gauge: 23 of 64 (36%)

Funny Factor: 3 😐

Tee-Hee: GIGGLY.

Uniclues:

1 Only show them to Gary.
2 Fellow electees on the homeowner association laughing about the red-faced know-it-all screaming about the special assessment.
3 Future task for the currently lithe.
4 How things went from bad to worse at the beginning of Harry Potter's Deathly Hallows. (And yeah, I know, this clue is not for everyone, but really, are they ever?)
5 How to ruin pancakes.
6 Screw really fast.

1 BEST TATA ADVICE (~)
2 GIGGLY BOARDIES (~)
3 UNLEARN ARCH
4 TENT ROSE TO FAME
5 GOAT BUTTER BLOB (~)
6 HASTEN TIGHT FIT

My Fascinating Crossword Uniclue Keepsake from Last Year: Enticement to not pick the clown. MAGICIAN ON SALE.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Anonymous 8:48 AM  

Clearly OFL and many of you have so much regard for Walden that you are reluctant to officially call BS on the LEA SOLANGA and GALOIS crossing which was a true Natick in my book.

Anonymous 8:53 AM  

Random trivia and a lot of groaners. BOARDIES? No one says that. GOAT BUTTER? I have never seen that anywhere. THE BARTMAN? You have got to be kiddng. I dread seeing the name Byron Walden. For my two cents, the puzzles are just not fun.

Joe Bohanon 8:56 AM  

Is TIVO really still so much of a thing that it deserves to be in the crossword so often?

Christopher XLI 9:12 AM  

“So Saturday puzzles not tough enough for you, huh? OK. Ever heard of a blow-dry bar? Up on your French mathematician trivia? Didn’t think so.”

I thought it was Leasa Longa until coming here, that’s how lost I was. Sometimes the difference between happy music and DNF is dumb luck.

RooMonster 9:12 AM  

HEY All !
Here is the tough SatPuz y'all have been clamoring about. Yikes. Well over average from the SatPuzs of late, but pretty much right on average time for me for Saturdays in general.

Finished with errors, had to cheat to complete. First, had to look up the Dodecanese Islands to find any of their names, never mind the largest one. That helped me in finishing that tough NW.

My error was cOAT cUTTER. Makes sense, no? You need to get that wax off the cheese somehow. Of course, thinking about it now, the cheese should already be out of the wax, awaiting to be eaten if you're any kind of good host. That got me cALOIS for the mathematician, and the funny couNDIES for the swimwear. It can be worn also as shorts? Why, CO-UNDIES, of course!
Which also begat LEA SuLONGA and nEST ON, which fits the clue as well as REST ON, IMO. Shoot, could've been gETS ON.

Ah well, win some, lose some.

john-THOM, AjAr-ATAD, espys-SpiES-SITES, think that might be it for writeovers.

Good brain-stretching puz. Almost got it! Like the grid design. Only 24 Blockers. Only four Threes. Very nice!

Have a great Saturday.

One F
RooMonster
DarrinV

egsforbreakfast 9:24 AM  

ROSETOFAME? "Over my dead body" says Giamatti.

Typically, a GOATBUTTER would be another goat. On the other hand, the G.O.A.T. Butter is possibly the Cabot Creamery Sea Salted Extra Creamy Premium Butter which won the butter prize at the recent World Championship Cheese Contest.

Mrs. Egs WENTCOLD when I said we should try kissing with OPENMOUTHS. Not even ATAD she insisted.

ASHCARTER LLC - - I'll haul away your fireplace residue.

When I asked a bro the best way to get to SFO, he said take THEBARTMAN.

I had no idea which was the largest of the Dodecanese Islands. It's not like I'm a f***ing RHODES scholar.

Veni, vidi, vici. Thanks for a real fun tussle, Byron Walden.

Anonymous 9:28 AM  

Have had many a puzzle rejected because of "too many proper names" and "it's supposed to be a puzzle, not a trivia contest". Hmmm...

Danny 9:34 AM  

I imagine it was only punishingly hard if you didn’t know the correct answers and/or if you get no delight from a challenge or learning.

Yes, it was hard by NYT Saturday standards, but I’m grateful for the change. They need to run some crunchy ones for those of us who enjoy them.

Anonymous 9:35 AM  

Objectively, this was a pretty ugly puzzle, but just by virtue of the fact that it put up resistance, it might be my favorite puzzle in years.

Anonymous 9:42 AM  

Seven hour is criminally bad. Overnight is the correct answer. I fly back and forth and NY-London is closer to six hours. Sometimes even under if jet stream is fast. Terrible terrible clue.

Teedmn 9:45 AM  

My first cheat in a long time. That SW corner was chock full of no knows. Taylor Swift song (yes, in retrospect, ‘TIS should have been obvious but I kept thinking “It’s”), LEA SALONGA, BOARDIES, OCELO, GALOIS, all unknown by me. Top that off with Else instead of ERGO and the tricky Bond clue, and I just couldn’t stand it anymore, had to look up the singer of Jasmine and Mulan. That gave me ERGO, and ergo, I was able to fill everything else easily. But man, I hate the defeated feeling Googling leaves me with.

Good old MATA Hari got me my real first start and AUSTENITES was a gimme. I struggled pleasantly in the NW and NE, but that SW, I cried uncle. Sigh.

Thanks, Byron Walden, for a real Saturday challenge.

Photomatte 9:51 AM  

Where to begin? Aside from 1 Across, which isn't even a real thing, I'll start with 13-Down: Where the 10th Amendment leaves many issues. I had WITHTHESTATES, which seemed perfect. But no, it was STATELEVEL. This is incorrect; the answer should've been AT THE STATE LEVEL. Leaving out the preposition makes the answer incorrect. Let's move to 29-Down; those flights last SEVENHOURS, not SEVENHOUR. Moving to 37-Across, the correct answer is BOARDSHORTS. I understand trying to be clever on a Saturday but there was already lots of arcane name trivia in this puzzle; inventing words and leaving words out wasn't necessary.

kitshef 9:57 AM  

GALOIS did his groundbreaking mathematical work as a teeneager - which he had to do as he died at the age of twenty.

jb129 10:00 AM  

Very difficult. Now I know why Byron's been gone from the NYT xword for so long - he's been concocting this Saturday puzzle. The only thing I loved was PDA. Gotta add it's amazing how easy it becomes when you cheat :(

Beezer 10:11 AM  

I can see this puzzle will cause a LOT of talk. Haha @Gary J, I DO like to learn something in my puzzles but this puzzle made me feel like the recurrent dream where you’ve shown up for a final exam in college and realize you attended no classes!
Byron Walden obviously puts a lot of time, thought and TLC into his puzzles, but I admit…he is both not on my wavelength and he is above my paygrade. However, as per usual, after struggling mightily and then, sadly having to cheat a bit, I didn’t feel upset or mad. This would’ve been a good puzzle (for me) to have on paper, so I could revisit it for possible “eurekas” over the course of a few days.
Btw, and this is NOT to say it’s wrong, but I’ve only heard the term “DRYBARS.” I only mention that because the first time I heard it I thought of the oxymoron.

Rick K 10:14 AM  

Not a fan of this puzzle, and not just because it was difficult. It's nice to have so many long entries, but this one perhaps could have benefited from a few more black squares. Quite uninspired choices for the longs (RESELLER, SEVENHOURS, STATELEVEL, etc.) and they was just loads of gunk around them (AMER, BUTI, ESSE, THOS, etc.). One-half star out of 5 stars for me.

Anonymous 10:17 AM  

Same here! Also, OVERNIGHT before SEVENHOUR. That really slowed me down.

Nancy 10:25 AM  

Yes, you're right. I really, really hated this. And just imagine solving this with what you thought was just a bad cold, only your temperature has been almost 102 for two days, when you're someone who normally doesn't run much temperature. I'm waiting for delivery of the $30 kit that will check out both Covid and the flu in the same test. I'm also waiting for a new digital mouth thermometer to replace my analog rectal thermometer from childhood which I find I can no longer read. It was up near 102, but HOW near? Beats me -- and I need to know that.

So I was not in the mood for this unnecessarily arcane puzzle with its plethora of pop culture clues and its general aura of unfairness. I cheated on MR LONELY, and I thought that I'd ended up solving it. "What's a SLOW DRY BAR," I wondered. But that wind-blown sailor was a BLOB, not a SLOB, so it was a BLOW DRY BAR. Which I guess is a lineup of blow dryers on the wall of, say, a gym? Whatever.

As I say, I hated this. I needed a Monday puzzle today -- certainly not this bear of a Saturday.

Tom F 10:28 AM  

can anyone explain what The Bartman has to do with a comics superhero?

Enjoyed the challenge, thanks! More like this please.

Whatsername 10:35 AM  

No whoosh for me. It was hard to even get any momentum going without having to stop and look up a proper name. Not much fun but a reminder of what a hard-core Saturday can really be. I suppose I need that every now and then to keep from getting too confident.

Anonymous 10:37 AM  

I also hated it, but I’m probably not in the demographic it was aimed at. My play style is 100% off line, no google— and the could not be done. After 40 min I just hit reveal all and moaned.

Anonymous 10:39 AM  

THANK YOU! I was going to post this but you beat me to it. I agree that Fanny Price is a drip and Edmund Bertram is an insensitive prig. For a real treat, listen to the free audio play of Northanger Abbey, narrated by Emma Thompson, on Audible. Signed, a Life Member of the Jane Austen Society of North America. 🪶

Whatsername 10:46 AM  

Sorry to hear you’re feeling so badly, Nancy. 102 fever is nothing to trifle with. Hope you are getting plenty of liquids and rest.

Greater Fall River Committee for Peace & Justice 10:51 AM  

Yikes. I pretty easily got the SE, based on being an AUSTENfan. But I could not get out of that corner without looking up things that I profoundly did not care about. I did look up the sea creature, but it did not give me BLOB. I had LOPE and OWES and HUSH, and a couple of things that were wrong (witch and then). And I gave up and came here.

Mark 10:53 AM  

The puzzle was ok, but I really didn’t like the definition for “roan”. It was defined as a color, but actually it’s a pattern, not a color. It’s sort of like asking for the Scotch National color and having the answer be “plaid”

Les S. More 10:54 AM  

I’m an admirer of Byron Walden’s puzzles but this one wasn’t my favourite. I appreciate that it gave me a good workout, as most of his grids do, but I didn’t find it all that satisfying. It was almost like it was trying too hard. Answers like HEYANYBODY at 14D just seemed odd. Who says that? And the clue for 16A ANTE just sounded awkward to me. You might put down cash on a hand and meet the terms of an ante but “cash on hand” without the article sounds really forced. Sort of like 32D HAIRTRAP. Did you mean drain cover? And, speaking of hair traps, what exactly is a BLOWDRYBAR 1A?

Oh yeah, mark this because I think it’s the first time I’ve ever complained of a Natick. 24A x 26D (GALOIS x LEASALONGA). Really. A 19th century French math prodigy crossing the singing voice for a couple of Disney princesses. Further mucked up by the inclusion at 28A of the name of a sponge brand. Always helps to be up on all your household cleaning trivia.

Isn’t 20A TATA actually 2 words or, rather, one word used twice to form a very short phrase? It’s clued as a single word.

Lest you think I am totally negative, I did like a few things. I stared at the clue for 36A for the longest time, wondering what the connection could be between bitumen and bitcoin before realizing they were both MINED. Nice. 41A ARCH and 41D ABETS were both nicely clued. 39A GIGGLY is a fun word, as is 40A UNLEARN, though having tried to unlearn various bad habits, I’m not sure it’s possible. Clue for 35D PDA is good, too.

Clue for 1D was very evocative. Just had to be a jellyfish. Apparently it is. Well, not exactly, but close enough for crosswords.

Thanks Byron Walden for a difficult but engaging Saturday workout.

Mark 10:57 AM  

The puzzle was ok, but I really didn’t like the clue for “roan”. It was clued as a horse color but actually it’s a pattern that can have a variety of colors. It’s sort of like a clue for the National color of Scotland and having the answer be “plaud”.

TJS 10:58 AM  

With Ya, Nancy. Total garbage. And hope you recover quickly.

Beezer 10:59 AM  

Yes Nancy, I’m glad you’re testing and make sure you follow Whatsername’s advice.

Generic Solver 11:03 AM  

Lea Salonga is a very well-known Broadway actress. I’m anything but an arts buff, but I’ve seen her name mentioned many times in various media. I’m surprised at the number of comments saying that the clue was part of a Natick for them. I’m not saying that I instantly filled in her name, but that it was very recognizable from having some of the letters.

Beezer 11:03 AM  

I dunno. I often describe flights like that. For instance, the folks were supposed to be on a ‘3 hour tour’ when they ended up on Gilligan’s Island…

Anonymous 11:22 AM  

Natick city. GAbOIS/bEASALONGA looked good in ink.

Anonymous 11:22 AM  

Sorry you’re sick but this puzzle was fantastic. A breath of TOUGH air after so many dumbed-down offerings.

Anonymous 11:26 AM  

You call it eat a sandwich, I call it toe holds to help mitigate the proper noun cluster…

Anonymous 11:28 AM  

Extra funny today

S4C 11:38 AM  

This was a tough puzzle. My biggest nit is the Bartman. I know the bartman, I even kind of remember it being a thing, but the comics superhero clue doesn't get me there.

Anonymous 11:54 AM  

38D seems wrong to me. To surmount implies getting over or past some obstacle, not to rest on it.

mathgent 11:58 AM  

There's a BLOWDRYBAR in the Planet Hollywood mall in Las Vegas. Quite full when I've walked by it. Haven't seen one here.

I remember seeing THOS on pictures of the DOI. It must have been a common name at that time. Jefferson abbreviated his first name as "Th:" on his signature of the document.

GALOIS theory is well known in mathematics but not for differential theory, whatever that is. I know it for what it has to do with the solutions of polynomial equations.

TTrimble 11:59 AM  

Hey there, Son! Unexpected but pleasant surprise to be called out. I'm happy to respond with a "mathematician's history" [meaning a spiel not up to professional historian standards], for anyone interested.

GALOIS's name would be unknown to the vast majority of people not in the math biz, but he was a very, very big deal. His most celebrated achievement can actually be explained. If you remember a bit of high school algebra, you might remember there's this quadratic formula, which allows one to find the roots for a 2nd degree polynomial like say 2x^2 + 5x + 1 (i.e., the values of x such that 2x^2 + 5x + 1 = 0). That had been known in essence for many hundreds of years. The problem of finding a corresponding cubic formula, for finding roots of a 3rd degree polynomial, was cracked sometime in the 1500's. It's rather more complicated than the quadratic formula, and it had a lot to do with the introduction of complex numbers (numbers like 3 + 2i, involving the imaginary unit i). Still more complicated is a quartic formula, for 4th degree polynomials. I don't know the dates, but I think that was found not too long after the cubic formula.

What about degree 5 and higher? Despite the efforts of many brilliant mathematicians, this one lay unsolved even centuries later. It was Galois who finally understood why: it couldn't be done. That is: there is no algebraic formula, expressed in the coefficients of the polynomial (with the allowed operations being plus, minus, times, divided by, and root extraction like taking a square root or cube root or higher), that automatically gives the roots of a general polynomial of degree 5 or higher.

That's the part that can be explained easily to laypeople. But in order to solve the problem, Galois (who at the time was in his early 20's) had to invent radically novel ideas which come under the heading of what is now called "group theory". I won't define it precisely, but a group is something like a closed system of rearrangements of some structure, such as the system of rearrangements you can perform on a Rubik's cube. Galois made a deep dive study of the group of possible rearrangements or symmetries of the roots of polynomials, and tied the solvability problem to the structure of this group. I'll just end the math lecture by saying that groups remain absolutely central to mathematics, and always will be, and they are also absolutely central to physics, for example in the connection between conservation laws and groups of symmetries which leave conserved quantities invariant, and in relativity theory, and also as a basic organizing concept for understanding the structure of quantum field theories at large.

He was a first-rate genius -- way ahead of his time. But he was not an academic success. He died very young, in a duel, again in his early 20's: he was a revolutionary firebrand during the political upheavals of the early 1800's, and the duel was somehow connected with that. (I think. There are so many stories and myths that surround this aspect of his life that I've never tried to get them all sorted out in my head. There are also stories of a woman of interest being connected with the duel. Anyway, grain of salt and all that.)

It took some decades before the significance of his ideas really penetrated the consciousness of the mathematics community, and no telling what else he might have done if he hadn't died so young. It's quite a captivating and romantic (Romantic, I mean) story.

Anonymous 12:06 PM  

Double Natick with the French dude, the Tony winning actress and the sponge. None anywhere remotely close to knowable or inferable to me. Oh well. Liked the rest of the puzzle. Current House of Representatives in the US isn’t just the LOWER HOUSE, it’s the lowest House in American history.

Anonymous 12:09 PM  

Same and agree!

Anonymous 12:11 PM  

NYC-London is normally scheduled for seven hours but actual flying time often closer to six.

Anonymous 12:11 PM  

I can’t get over 7 hours for NY to London. It’s 5, just like the time difference, so you land the same time you took off. It is known.

Anonymous 12:15 PM  

Hey! Anybody?

Anonymous 12:17 PM  

Lea Salonga has appeared in NYT crosswords before.

Masked and Anonymous 12:20 PM  

Harder than snot SatPuz. Enjoyable trip to the edge of solvability.
Somehow recalled GALOIS (Theory) from my many math classes of yore.
18 other debut entries besides GALOIS, all of brutally long-ish length. Any guesses on whether BLOWDRYBAR was one of them? [Talk about an extended PDA place!]

staff weeject pick (from a mere 4 choices): PDA. Primo smack-er clue!

Some faves: The quad stacks of 10, NW & SE. MRLONELY. GIGGLY. GOATBUTTER [nice double entendre-er]. The Ow de Sperations of: HEYANYBODY ["what Dr. Frankenstein's cadaver supply might include, dude"], HEXER&PAVER, BOARDIES.

OCELO/LEASALONGA? OUCHA NAT-TICKA, Shortzmeister!

Thanx for the {___ Hari}=MATA gimme and for the otherwise max-sufferin, Mr. Walden dude. Good (sorta) to see U back in the SatPuz business. Contrition-wise, U now deserve to have to work the runtpuz, below.

Masked & Anonymo5Us

... Want some more hardness? Try takin this puppy for a walk ...

"Off Our Rocker" - 7x8 15 min. themed biter runt puzzle:

**gruntz**

M&A

MetroGnome 12:40 PM  

*Sigh* -- What the hell is a "PDA"??!!

Anonymous 12:41 PM  

“Bartman” is a really interesting view into just how insanely and inescapably over-merchandised The Simpsons (and especially Bart) were in the early 1990s.

The first appearance of “Bartman” was the song “Do the Bartman” in 1990, but it was in no way a superhero spoof (although the massive success of 1989’s Batman probably explains the name). Instead it was just a Michael Jackson(!) ghostwritten knock off of Fresh Prince-esque “parents just don’t understand” kid-pop rap.

The only* television appearance of “Bartman” as a superhero was a year later in 1991 in a throwaway joke where Bart narcissistically attends a convention as Bartman, but of course, no one knows or cares who Bartman is.

The only (and longest lasting) treatment of Bartman as an actual superhero character was in a Bartman comics series, which ran from 1993-1995. So, in a lot of ways Bartman is most properly considered a comic book character, even if I’d personally clue it as the song.

* Bartman reappears as a superhero in in an episode of show decades later, but that’s so far from The Simpsons being at the heart of the zeitgeist that I can’t imagine it being anyone’s first point of reference.

Anonymous 12:46 PM  

Had Austen fan because I never heard of Austenite , only Janeite. When I googled austenite, all that came up were articles about metallurgy and carbon steel! Poor edititng.

Anonymous 12:48 PM  

16+ minutes with some nervous moments along the way. Proper Saturday puzzle. Let's have more of these, please.

Anonymous 12:53 PM  

Died in a duel, by the way.

My degree is in mathematics, so I've heard of Galois. But I've never heard of his differential theory, and neither, it seems, has Wikipedia.

Villager

Nancy 12:55 PM  

I just tested and I have Covid. I haven't had it previously. I have no idea where or how I got it -- the weather was horribly hot this past week and I've done very little socializing.

Other than the high fever, my symptoms aren't all that bad. I'm wondering if I should be taking Paxlovid.

Anonymous 1:01 PM  

I love challenging puzzles but the obscurity of some of these... Google "ocelo sponges"; aside from the marine animal references, I've never even heard of the stores that sell these. Crossed with a random theater actress and an obscure mathematician? That's poor construction; finding answers that fit rather than knowing what you want to plot. And "boardies" is Australian slang! Unused elsewhere!

I enjoyed this one, but it's not great -- someone could make a difficult and educational puzzle by using all kinds of chemical names, but that wouldn't make it fun.

Anonymous 1:09 PM  

I’ve been working my way thru the NYT archives lately—I’m currently in 2006–and this is the first present-day puzzle I’ve done in forever that rivals the difficulty of those Saturdays of yore. I’d worked my way NW-SE and I had about 4 words filled in on first pass, almost entirely in the SE. Nice challenge!

jae 1:09 PM  

Like pretty much everybody else, this was tough for me. The SE and the center chunk were the only somewhat easy sections.

WOEs - BLOW DRY BAR, GALOIS, LEA SALONGA, DR MARIO, BOARDIES, BLOB, and RHODE.

I guessed right on the LEA/GALOIS cross but it was pure luck.

Nice to have a challenging Saturday, liked it.







jb129 1:10 PM  

I had it as Public Display of Affection

Alexscott68 1:15 PM  

Public Display of Affection.

egsforbreakfast 1:17 PM  

BartMan was Bart Simpson's superhero alter ego.

Anonymous 1:23 PM  

Do people actually use google and yahoo to solve? Thats like using the dictionary in scrabble to find words. Total cheat. But even moreso, it turns the challenge/pleasure of the solve into a reseatch exercise. Feh

KVanD 1:27 PM  

There have been some really terrific post-colonial readings of Mansfield Park that, among other things, link the Mansfield of the title to Lord Mansfield and the Somerset decision. Patricia Rozema's film adaptation also pays special attention to this. I understand why Fanny Price is not an Austen fan favorite, but for all her wishy-washiness, Fanny is the only Austen heroine to ever directly critique slavery.

Anonymous 1:31 PM  

By-the-wind Sailors are not blobs. They blow up on our beach every spring, and they are upside down t-shaped with a disk bottom. Then they dry into potato-chip like snacks for the dogs. But not blobs.

okanaganer 1:32 PM  

I take some solace in the fact that Rex found this challenging. For me it was quite brutal... I walked away several times and forgot to restart the timer, so at a guess I would say at least 45 to 60 minutes total! So many Unknown Names: GALOIS OCELO LEASALONGA DRMARIO ASHCARTER MRLONELY THEBARTMAN, yeesh. Somehow I eventually got that 24 across area mess correctly; dunno how.

But the square 27 area did me in and I had to cheat. I tried I'M LONELY and SO LONELY but never thought of MR. And HEXER? And my social butterfly FLITS rather than MIXES.

And SEVEN HOUR?... like others, I had OVERNIGHT because I've done that (well Toronto to London, actually). Then, on the return flight time stands still. I left London at 10 am and arrived in Calgary at... well, about 10 am because of the 7 hour time zone difference. Very strange.

Anonymous 1:32 PM  

Public Display of Affection

Gary Jugert 1:37 PM  

@MetroGnome 12:40 PM
Public display of affection.

Also, blow dry bars are real.

Anonymous 1:45 PM  

Agreed. There are times when doing a puzzle where I’m shaking my head, thinking, this better not be the “correct” answer because this is both bad and wrong. This was one of those times. To me it’s one of the most unpleasant feelings while solving a puzzle, and it happened multiple times today.

Anonymous 1:50 PM  

I've yet to meet a Walden puzzle I couldn't finish but this came the closest so far. I bounced off of every across clue until PDA gave me PAVER.While that broke the log jam I had to overcome an ABSTAIN/UNLEARN write over to keep things moving.

The most tenuous entry for me was 26D. I parsed it as LEASA LONGA and wondered "who spells Lisa that way?" However L was the only letter that made the unknown GALOIS look correct. ATAD and OCELO are both classic crosswordese with the latter requiring some mental dredging.

BTW this is puzzlehoarder. I've lost my blue name probably due to lack of use.

Anonymous 1:50 PM  

PRESS START is what's written on the title screen in many old-school games. Definitely a thing. SEVEN-HOUR on the other hand is something every constructor should just remove from their wordlist.

Visho 2:04 PM  

Me, too! Only cheat was GALOIS. Truly enjoyed the battle. Had to put it down and walk away at one point to come back later and see things fall into place. I had UNYIELDING before UNWAVERING so that caused a few problems for a bit.

razerx 2:05 PM  

Slower than usual but I like a challenge. SE was quick but NW stumped me because I got the easy Y so thought it must be some type of day spa. What is a blow dry bar?

Les S. More 2:06 PM  

Thanks, @TTrimble, for trying, but this life-long math ignoramus found his eyes glazing over by the middle of your second paragraph.

Snapped awake when you said, “that's the part that can be explained easily to laypeople”. Nope, not this one. More eye glazing. Awoke again for the revolutionary firebrand stuff and, of course, the duel. Must have been a woman of exceptional interest to give up such a promising life for.

Apologies for my ignorance here but some of us just don’t seem to have the Math Gene.

Anonymous 2:07 PM  

The puzzle was enjoyable enough, but looking back I don't see any fill that really stands out.

The NW was much harder than everything else - and I knew GALOIS cold (though I never remember if it's LIA or LEA Salonga). I knew the Dodecanese islands were Greek but RHODES required crosses. DR. MARIO would have been a gimme if I'd realized what a "head mirror" is.

Partial BUT I? Horrible. I wanted HARD, but I don't know if "hard agree" has a "disagree" counterpart.

Speaking of which, hard agree with @Rex on how ridiculous that clue on BLOB is. The jellyfish in question is a BLOB named after the one non-BLOBby feature that it has. No idea how Byron or the editing team landed on THAT creature exactly just to clue BLOB in an "interesting" way.

Anonymous 2:32 PM  

Mathematician Evariste _____, for whom a differential theory is named. While almost every mathematician would know the name Evariste Galois, I venture that only a small fraction would know that a differential theory is named for him. His brilliant innovations are considered part of algebra — no derivatives in sight. Very few people know of “differential Galois theory.” Seems like a Google/Wikipedia inspired clue. Fortunately, anyone very familiar with math would know the singluar great mathematician whose forename was Evariste.

Liveprof 2:39 PM  

Steve BARTMAN was the fan who interfered with a Cub outfielder and was blamed by some with costing them the pennant in 2003. It changed his life.

Hack mechanic 2:40 PM  

Tough NE & SW corners. 12d alone went with unyielding then unbending before unwavering.
Needed cheats on Mr Lonely and Lea Asalonga for enough knowns to sort it.
Gnarly!

Anonymous 2:43 PM  

The Cartman was my dance until the bitter end. I know nothing more than basics about either Simpson’s or South Park. The obscure (to me) people did me in; htg way too much. Nonetheless a fun if difficult Saturday to get back into this game.

Whatsername 3:05 PM  

As I understand it, the sooner you get on the Covid medication, the better. If it was me, I’d be calling the doctor or an urgent care clinic today.

Carola 3:17 PM  

Seeing Byron Walden's name at the top, I happily looked forward to a challenging Saturday....and got a lot more of a challenge than I'd expected. As in, no Across entries at all except the final E of CREE (which might have also been eriE) until I got way down to ROAN. I built my way back up from there through ERGO, TENT, and THOS, which allowed me to see GOAT BUTTER and LEA SALONGA...and then crosses and a lot of brain racking got me the rest. Really enjoyed grappling with this one!

Anonymous 3:30 PM  

Brutal!

okanaganer 3:31 PM  

@Anonymous 1:23 pm, I disagree that Googling, or even revealing an answer, "turns the challenge / pleasure... into a research exercise". When I've spent an hour trying unsuccessfully to finish and have had enough, it is less unpleasant than the alternative which is giving up. Definitely a personal choice.

Anonymous 3:39 PM  

Every once in a while, a puzzle will cause me to think, some crosswords are like Wheel of Fortune. A vague clue with a certain number of letters, with an answer that may or may not feel like a random phrase. And I just start guessing letters to try to get a foothold. No disrespect to the Wheel. It can be fun.

Anonymous 3:49 PM  

Could it be that it was a frustrated and disgruntled puzzle solver who shot him in the duel that killed him at age 20?

Anonymous 3:54 PM  

it means both. The definition you offer, and the one referred to in this clue: to stand or be placed on top of something - like a rider surmounting a horse or surmounting a Christmas
tree with a star. Bost definitions are common and valid.

Sailor 3:59 PM  

I agree. Check out he Wikipedia article ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velella ) for some excellent pics. Elongated discs with a little stiff sail on top. Not "blobs" at all. Terrible clue, falling squarely in the "trying too hard to be cute" category (and hardly the only such clue in this puzzle).

Anonymous 3:59 PM  

My background is in math and I've very much heard of Galois. But I definitely didn't know he was Evariste and I've never heard of differential Galois theory. I needed the O_S part to guess.

Villager

Anonymous 4:05 PM  

My thoughts exactly.

Villager

JT 4:14 PM  

I guess this was, as Rex called it, "properly Saturday tough," but I'd rather the puzzle challenged me with clever wordplay or long, hard-to-guess phrases than with politicians, islands, cartoon characters, and cnidarians—whatever the hell they are— I've never heard of, without giving me reasonably inferable crosses through which to get them. I scratched and clawed my way through three-fourths of this puzzle but had no choice but to cheat to get the NW. Hardest and least satisfying puzzle I've done in a long, long time. I sure hope there's a sparkly Sunday coming up.

ChrisS 4:18 PM  

Math major in college & an accredited actuary so somewhat math literate. But never heard of Galois or differential theory. Wikipedia "differential Galois theory is the field that studies extensions of differential fields." SevenHour was very bad, so nonspecific.

Anonymous 4:18 PM  

How do I make my crossword Saturday-level hard? I know, I'll throw a bunch of obscure proper nouns into it!

I always think this is a cop-out on the constructor's part.

Anonymous 4:30 PM  

I only hope it's another year before it comes around again. I always appreciate your positive comments, Lewis, but to me this constructor was just showing off lots of arcane knowledge rather than making a clever puzzle. Had there been more clever word play like "Smack in the middle of the crowd," I would have appreciated it. But this way...just, No.

Joe 4:30 PM  

This was a beast. I finally managed to complete the puzzle, although not correctly. I had 4 squares which I wasn’t sure of, and 72 reasonable ways to fill them: the first was the cross of 1 Across and 1 Down. The second and third were the first two letters of 26 Down. The fourth was the third square in 42 Across. I juggled the possibilities, but finally called it quits. I liked the puzzle, but crossing Lea Solonga with Araviste Galois? Are you kidding me?

ChrisS 4:30 PM  

15A, Parliament has the same number of letters as lower house. Overcoming that was a slog

Jim 4:32 PM  

Liked it though needled all the crosses for FLOWERYBAR or whatever. For the names, I ultimately looked up a couple and learned something. But I'm a bloody casual so it's OK. I liked that it seemed almost hopeless at first, couldn't find that one way in. And then did. Did not like HEXER, though-- I think that was beneath the otherwise high-quality stuff here.

Anonymous 4:32 PM  

Is there really even such a thing as goat butter? Goat's milk, goat's cheese...yes. Goat's butter...I really doubt it. And if there is, there shouldn't be! ;-D

Anonymous 4:33 PM  

I beg to differ. Retired physician, long ago math major here. I vaguely remembered the name Galois, not the math story, which I found fascinating in ttrimble’s account. The greatest mathematicians, like the greatest composers, are truly awe inspiring.

webwinger

Anonymous 4:36 PM  

Absolutely correct. Janeites is the term, never Austenites!

JT 4:44 PM  

This is how a lot of us felt about the AUSTENITES clue. There is no such term. The term is JANEITES.

Anonymous 4:52 PM  

Agree. And yet, I've seen ROAN in several archived NYTXWs lately, and I think in some other puzzles, too.

Anonymous 4:53 PM  

Hard! Velella Velella are BEAUTIFUL … wish I could send a photo.

Anonymous 4:56 PM  

I thought what you thought, but my dictionary says it has both meanings.

Anonymous 5:16 PM  

20A infuriated me. Ta ta is two words. Maybe I’ve seen it hyphenated, but usually not, as far as I can remember.

Gary Jugert 5:35 PM  

@Nancy 10:25 AM
Hope you heal quickly. Definitely check in with your doctor.

TTrimble 5:39 PM  

No problem, Les S. More. I've taught math for a long time, and I'm aware that any talk of high school algebra (which seems a reasonable starting point to place what Galois did in context) will not resonate with many readers, and I guess my comment wasn't really for them -- it was for a different sort of reader with a different sort of background who might be interested. By "laypeople", I don't mean everyone necessarily, but people who find math and science topics interesting although not at a professional level, and who is willing to engage -- something like a typical reader of Scientific American.

Please don't think I think the less of you for falling asleep twice in my class. :-) I know many fine and erudite people (including my mother) who deem themselves math ignoramuses. For what it's worth, I generally enjoy your posts, for example hearing your neat ideas on food and cooking.

Anonymous 5:43 PM  

Crosswords are supposed to be fun, not intellectual fart huffing exercises in obfuscation for the sake of obfuscation. No one says, “Hey anybody.” And if you’re going to drop Australian slang in an American crossword, you should include it in the clue.

Anonymous 6:03 PM  

Laughing out loud!

Anonymous 6:08 PM  

Agree with all around me that this one was a toughie -- I fought tooth and nail with this all over the grid, filling out the bottom half first and winding up in the NW.

The stack above BEST ADVICE was very slow-going. I wanted something with "bouche" for French kiss kissers, and I thought BLOW DRY BAR might have had some combination of "day" and "spa" in it. ASH CARTER, sheesh. And "dodecanese islands" -- even knowing that "dodeca" refers to twelve (two plus ten) was no help. This was a puzzle for the trivia-minded, no doubt.

Difficulty aside, I actually find the construction very impressive. I don't find ugliness anywhere; it looks rather polished to my eyes. Thank you Byron Walden for the workout!

Anonymous 6:12 PM  

I cant figure out why PDA is the answer to smack in the middle of a crowd! Can someone explain?!

Dangerhorse 6:31 PM  

I'm actually familiar with by-the-wind sailors so I was very pleased with myself when I was able to plug in BLUE for 1D right away. Confirmed by two crosses. Doh.

JT 6:41 PM  
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Anonymous 6:52 PM  

I flaked out on LEA SALONGA. I got GALOIS, eventually, With the "differential" clue, I first put in CAUCHY, without any crosses. Wrong! I still think of Galois as a group theorist, there's a mathematical structure named after him, the Galois Group. I'm not sure what his contributions to differential theory were. I would have appreciated a clue like French math groupie, or something.

Stoli 7:04 PM  

Like Rex, I immediately entered OVERNIGHT for 29D and it nearly killed my streak. Loved this puzzle and the fact that it was much more of a Saturday Stumper than the last few weeks.

Anonymous 7:09 PM  

Anonymous 1:01 pi am responding because you are criticizing the constructor for “poor” construction.
I found the puzzle very hard. But I enjoyed it. every though I dnf’d at 2 crosses
The Saturday puzzles have been easier of late. You maybe are not used to the tough ones but this is not a question of poor construction but of difficulty level
BTW Lea Salonga is not a random theater actress. You may have little or no interest in Broadway musical stars and therefore did not know her but the tens of millions of people in the US who are fans of it know her name. She is too well known to for it to be a natick.by far. (It is an objective standard. Read Rex’s definition).
My example is MRLONElY crossing ASHCARTER I dnf’d because I gave up. . I should have come up with MR as R( now I very vaguely remember the song) That’s the breaks of a difficult Saturday. It’s in no way poor construction

Anonymous 7:23 PM  

Anonymous 8:45 AM
That’s the point
Natick defined by Rex is OBJECTIVE
Just becaus I don’t know something doesn’t mean it is part of a natick. Read his definition
Lea Salonga is most definitely not obscure.

dgd 7:29 PM  

Joe Bohanon
FWIW
TIVO = convenient letters, which leads to crosswordese. Lots of crosswordese are not really a thing anymore but still are in use.
Tec the other day is even less a thing but there it was!

RandomThoughts 7:36 PM  

Am I the only one who saw "Bond Classification" as "DOUBLE ZERO" and very reluctantly gave it up?

dgd 7:52 PM  

Nancy
Hope you get well soon.
I ( I caught Covid 3x so I have had experience!) and everyone I know who took Paxlovid are happy they did
It is not a cure but it significantly reduces the symptoms.
Of course people are different so there is no guarantee.
Paxlovid rebound is a misnomer.
It simply means that in some people the symptoms last longer than Paxlovid reduces the symptoms. FWIW it didn’t happen to me or anyone I know.

dgd 8:19 PM  

Anonymous 12:06 pm
Low(eat) House
LOL

Anonymous 8:27 PM  

Anonymous 12:11 pm
Google disagrees
Seven hours plus is the scheduled trip time six & 1/2 hours average flight time. Which varies depending on wind speed.

Anonymous 8:47 PM  

In Aust. BOARDIES is very common usage

Anonymous 8:49 PM  

KVanD
I didn’t read the studies but I did read a Times article in defense of Mansfield Park
So many scholars agree that she was making w political statement. about slavery. BTW the Mansfield case decided that slaves brought to England became free. The article said she deliberately chose not to use the standard arc of 2 interesting people who eventually find love together. In Mansfield Park marriage is a trap that Frannie desperately tries to avoid, but to no avail.
Her eventual husband Austen deliberately made personally unattractive to underline the trap
The article’s point is that THIS heroine lost which maybe makes her less attractive? Put it another way, Austen was not endorsing the marriage but conceding that no sane woman would reject it when the alternative is falling into Regency poverty.

Gary Jugert 9:37 PM  

@JT 6:41 PM
I agree. It was a bit of a hacky joke and I should've nixed it.

Anonymous 9:48 PM  

"Ergo" is not a logical connective. It can be used to indicate the conclusion of an argument but "logical connective" has a precise meaning referring to "and" "or" and so forth --"else" meaning "if not" can be regarded as a logical connective. Sorry to be pedantic... if "ergo" had been clued correctly I might've had a chance in that corner :)

Anonymous 9:52 PM  

Very difficult. The lovely farmer who sells blueberries at my farmer’s market has a beautiful little daughter named Lea After Lea solonga. His wife is Filipino and Ms. Solonga is a huge huge celebrity there. This helped me remember her name.

Stumptown Steve 9:55 PM  

Eggs: ur post was the most enjoyable part of this puzzle. I’m not a super solver like a lot of folks here. YEESH.

A 10:47 PM  

Dropping in late (for the second time this week) to commiserate. Actually wrote this hours ago but got sidetracked.

After a few minutes of not writing anything in I exchanged my pen for a pencil so I could put in some wild guesses. Amazingly most turned out to be correct. But I did cheat. No googling, though - I went to the online grid and used the “check square” feature to verify one letter in an entry every so often so I could forge ahead. I think the only one that I checked that was wrong was GAtOIS. The L was my second choice. The rest of LEASA LONGA filled in from crosses.

Oh, wait - I also had an uncrossed rob’t for the DOI signers. Checked the b and found it had to go.

These days so many people have their groceries delivered it’s no wonder OCELO was a WOE for many. I refuse to stop shopping in person - in protest of all the damn delivery traffic in what used to be residential areas, and of all the excess packaging material going to landfills - so I’ve encountered the name passing down the cleaning aisle.

In addition to GALOIS and LEA SALONGA my WOEs were BLOWDRYBAR, RHODES, MR LONELY, THEBARTMAN, and BOARDIES*, which autocorrect is balking at. Like OFL I had totally forgotten ASH CARTER.

I’m a frequenter of health food stores, so GOAT BUTTER came easily once I had -OA______R.

*just looked it up and BOARDIES is also a brand name, so add that to the PPP count!

G’night,
Mimi

JT 11:26 PM  

PDA = Public Display of Affection. Smack = kiss

JT 11:27 PM  

Oh, what a great answer!

CDilly52 3:34 AM  

Well, this curious human and avid reader of Scientific American who was married to a math teacher for over 40 years did know Galois thanks to said husband, yet still struggled mightily through math yet sincerely appreciated your enlightening me. Thanks.

CDilly52 3:39 AM  

This was a true Saturday workout. However, I found myself much more on our well-known constructor’s wavelength in spots than usual for me. The mini-whooshes were such a welcome respite from the white-knuckle struggle spots. Too many proper nouns, but such a sense of accomplishment - as always with a Byron W. opus.

noni 7:47 AM  

This had to be the hardest NYT puzzle ever. GALOIS was easy because I am a mathematician so starting there seemed good. But I was quickly blocked. Stumbled around entering answers here and there. Tried some cheats but even that was little help so I gave up. I am in awe of anyone who could solve this. How many people gonna know GALOIS?

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