Film producer Ponti / TUE 2-11-25 / 2007 quadruple-platinum Alicia Keys album / Title setting for a Christie mystery / Betting setting / Good standing for a sailor? / Best-selling pop group that includes the members V, RM and Suga

Tuesday, February 11, 2025

Constructor: Paul Coulter

Relative difficulty: Easy


THEME: TWO-PART harmony (35A: Like some harmony ... or a hint to 17-, 30-, 47- and 59-Across) — phrases made out of two (body) parts

Theme answers:
  • HEARTEYES (17A: Emoji that means "I'm crazy about you") 😍
  • MOUTH ORGAN (30A: Harmonica)
  • MUSCLEHEAD (47A: Obsessive bodybuilder)
  • HANDS BACK (59A: Returns, as graded papers)
Word of the Day: CARLO Ponti (53A: Film producer Ponti) —

Carlo Fortunato Pietro Ponti Sr. OMRI (11 December 1912 – 10 January 2007) was an Italian film producer with more than 140 productions to his credit. Along with Dino De Laurentiis, he is credited with reinvigorating and popularizing Italian cinema post-World War II, producing some of the country's most acclaimed and financially-successful films of the 1950s and 1960s.

Ponti worked with many of the most important directors of Italian cinema of the era, including Federico FelliniMichelangelo Antonioni, and Vittorio De Sica, as well as many international directors such as Agnès Varda and David Lean. He helped launch the career of his wife, international film star Sophia Loren. He won the Academy Award for Best Foreign-Language Film for La Strada (1954) and was nominated for Best Picture for producing Doctor Zhivago (1965). In 1996, he was appointed as a Knight Grand Cross of the Order of Merit of the Italian Republic. (wikipedia)

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Well there's one obvious problem, which is that you can point to your heart, eyes, mouth, head, hands and back—those are specific, unmistakable things—but if I ask you to point at your ORGAN ... Actually, scratch that. I absolutely do not want you to point at your ORGAN. This is a family blog. Anyway, since I assume the puzzle is not using ORGAN as a euphemism, it's weird for it to be here, since it's a category of body part, and not a specific thing. Ditto MUSCLE, though somehow MUSCLE feels less out of step with the theme than ORGAN does. ORGAN is just ??? especially since you already have a couple of ORGANs in your themer set (namely HEART and EYES). Yeah, ORGAN is a real sour note today. Other things make the theme not so shiny. I think the ideal theme answer today is HANDS BACK, since the meaning of both HANDS and BACK are changed by the theme (i.e. neither word is a body part in the phrase HANDS BACK). Whereas MOUTH is the body part in its base phrase, and HEARTEYES couldn't mean (body part) HEART and EYES more if it tried, since that's practically all the emoji is composed of. HANDS BACK is the only answer that seems to be really trying to get into the whole spirit of a theme like this. The others feel a little slapdash and halfass.


The revealer also feels like it's missing something. Namely HARMONY. TWO-PART on its own feels sad. Insufficient. Abbreviated. Yes, you're supposed to reimagine the "part" as a "body part," but the phrase still doesn't feel punchy enough without the HARMONY. I guess a 14-letter revealer is too much to ask, or was too much to handle, but I think you can make a case that HARMONY belongs in the revealer. You are taking two (body) parts and bringing them into one harmonious phrase. And there you go. But instead we just have this truncated TWO-PART. Meh. What else? I have never heard the term MUSCLEHEAD in the wild. I'm sure it's a thing, but it feels forced, and possibly dated, to my ear, so I didn't love that one. But the thing that clunked worst is definitely ORGAN. The rest of the grid was plain as plain can be. Nothing exciting going on at all, in part because the grid is built without the two (or more) marquee long Down answers that early-week themed grids often have. We get banks of 7s, but those banks yield very little in the way of interesting fill. In fact, outside the theme, only SEND HELP and ICES OVER even reach to 8 letters (. Everything else is short short short, which means (largely) dull dull dull. I'd list it all (ACAI ORALB AGAME etc) but why, you can see it, it's right there. 


I like AHH under BTS, but only if you reimagine AHH as not a sigh but a scream, as in "AHH! Not BTS again! Make it stop!" (I'm sure they're lovely, but wow are they in the grid a lot). There were not many places to get stuck in this one. If you didn't know the names of the BTS guys, then it's also possible you didn't know the name of the Alicia Keys album AS I AM—I certainly forgot it (38A: 2007 quadruple-platinum Alicia Keys album) (she also has a song called "NO ONE," which I also know from crosswords). I thought the PARER (57A: Kitchen cutter) was a DICER and so had ISSAC someone as the [Player of one of the Barbies in "Barbie"] at first (ISSA RAE). Wondered briefly if there was a cross-dressing Barbie in that movie that I'd missed (obviously failing to notice that ISSAC is not spelled that way). Thought the [Betting setting] was a RACE well before I could see it was RENO (stupid deceptive "R"). And I wobbled a little (aptly) while struggling to find my SEA LEGS (11D: Good standing for a sailor?). Blame the "?" clue. There's nothing else of note in the grid, difficulty-wise or interest-wise, that I can see, but let's do a few Additional Notes anyway.


Additional notes:
  • 2D: Title setting for a Christie mystery (THE NILE) — was flipping around Hulu just last night and saw the recent Branagh version of Death on THE NILE there. Thought about adding it to "My Stuff" (I love all, yes all, filmed Christie, with the Ustinov-as-Poirot, Maggie Smith-starring Evil Under the Sun being my childhood favorite). Then remembered I had already seen it and let it drift by. Only to have it drift straight into my next morning's grid. Weird. 
  • 30D: Sound from a litter box (MEW) — there are lots of places you could've put your MEWing cat. Also, my cats don't generally MEW in the litter box. I can only imagine that the editor / clue writer wanted to echo the "litter" in 25D: Some littermates (PUPPIES). Me, I'd like to spend as little time with the litter box as possible. Kitties MEW for all kinds of nice reasons. Use one of those. 
  • 39D: ___ generis (SUI) — as you get older, do you find yourself using phrases that you would never have used as a younger person, even if you (mostly) understood them? Like, under-50 me would never have used the phrase SUI generis, except maybe in a college paper where I was trying to sound smarter than I really am. But lately, it keeps popping into my mouth. I used it once while talking to my wife recently and she just looked at me like "who are you?" (btw it means "constituting a class alone; unique; peculiar" (m-w))
  • 53A: Film producer Ponti (CARLO) — such a familiar name, which is strange, as it's rare for a person to become household-name famous for movie production alone. But Ponti's career is legendary, from Fellini (La Strada) to Varda (Cleo from 5 to 7) to Lean (Dr. Zhivago) and on and on. Oh, and he was married to Sophia Loren for five years in the late 50s / early 60s. That probably didn't hurt his fame. Sidenote: CARLO hasn't been clued via Ponti since '04 ([Monte ___] is the more popular option), and PONTI last made the grid nine years ago, Feb. 2016 ([Carlo in the film business]).
See you next time.

Signed, Rex Parker, King of CrossWorld

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93 comments:

Bob Mills 5:37 AM  

Found it very easy (like a Monday) except for the TEES/LAY/HEARTEYES cross. Didn't know a ballad could be a LAY, and wasn't sure about SESTET. I didn't consider the theme...if I had, HEARTEYES might have come sooner.

Son Volt 6:04 AM  

The big guy was a little rough on this one. Agree that it’s a loose implementation of a nifty little theme - but overall resulted in a slick grid. The opening NW corner is fantastic. Liked that harmony was in the revealer clue and TWO PART stands alone.

LAY of the Sunflower

Rex highlights most of the short gluey stuff - could have used better editing. The entire Tatum/TERI quadrant is wonderful. TAMIL x ACH is interesting.

The Dream ACADEMY

Enjoyable Tuesday morning solve.

So I walked as the day was dawning
Where small birds sang and leaves were falling
Where we once watched the row boats landing
By the broad majestic SHANNON

Conrad 6:19 AM  


Easy.

Two Overwrites:
At 8D, my poem was a SonnET before it was a SESTET
My 34A assignments were teSTS before they were POSTS

One WOE, AS I AM, the Alicia Keys album at 38A

JJK 6:40 AM  

Ditto. I’ve never heard of LAY as a synonym for ballad and since I had SEpTET in there, the EYES part of HEARTEYES wasn’t obvious.

SouthsideJohnny 6:40 AM  

Names of emoji’s? I don’t know what 90% of them even mean - never mind that they have names. Hard to believe that those things haven’t gone the way of Cabbage Patch Dolls by now.

The constructor dug deep for that clue on LAY - that one would feel right at home here on a Saturday. SESTET, TAMIL, and OVATE added a little difficulty up there in the NW as well.

Anonymous 7:07 AM  

If someone sings a ballad in your honor, does that mean you got LAYED?

kitshef 7:18 AM  

Felt like a lot of non-Tuesday material today, including;
HEART EYES emoji. Never heard of it. But I don’t speak emoji, so I’ve never heard of any of them.
The Alicia Keys album
CARLO Ponti

But most of all, that clue for LAY. Spent probably a couple of minutes trying to figure out whether I had an error in ATLAS or in HEART EYES, before giving up and submitting. I was quite surprised not to have an error.

Unusually weak revealer on a day that didn’t need one.

For your future reference: SESTET is a poem. SExTET and SEpTET are groups of things or musical compositions, but not poems.

Lewis 7:29 AM  

Well, my brain likes to crack riddles, and because I often don’t catch on to things quickly, it had a good workout trying to figure out why TWO PART hinted toward the theme answers. Finally, finally, came “Oh! PART as in body part!”

I am an enigma unto myself. I often without effort crack deviously misdirecting and arcane clues, while the obvious often soars over my head.

I loved the clue [Add years to one’s life] for AGE, as well as the triple-long-O northeast and southeast corners. I popped MOUTH ORGAN in, a term I haven’t come across or thought about in decades. MUSCLEHEAD triggered lovely images of Caroll O’Connor as Archie Bunker, who constantly called Rob Reiner’s character (Michael Stivic) “meathead”.

It was sweet to see AHH PEACE in row two; my whole body relaxes every time I look at that.

So, Paul, I left the box with a lot more than I came into it with – a gift. Thank you so much for making this!

Lewis 7:32 AM  

A WordPlay commenter suggested BODY DOUBLE as a possible revealer. Clever!

Beezer 7:48 AM  

I HOPE I can remember the SESTET v. Sextet deal for future reference. Hand up with some others on being totally flummoxed by ballad = LAY so I stared at 17A at the end, thinking it MIGHT be HEARTEd Ex (like an X for kiss comprised of hearts). Crazy thing is, I’ve seen the HEARTEYES emoji…I just don’t know the names…

Anonymous 8:07 AM  

Agreed. Lay was totally misclued.

Dr.A 8:08 AM  

I only knew the name because I saw it in another puzzle very recently! If only my memory were better, I’d tell you exactly where.

Dr.A 8:09 AM  

Isn’t HANDS BACK called that because you use your hand to give it back to the person? I mean…. That was my interpretation on that one.

Anonymous 8:15 AM  

I learned the phrase "sui generis" in a college class many years ago discussing Huey Long. He was asked by a congressional committee whether the United States would ever become a fascist country. He replied that if it comes, it will be sui generis. How prescient.

Whatsername 8:33 AM  

Found this to be extremely easy if a bit perplexing. Came here to see if there was something I was missing, an additional trick or some implied meaning, but apparently not. Glad to see I was not the only person who wondered how a ballad could be called a LAY, tucking that one away in my personal crossword vocabulary. I liked the themers, particularly ❤️ EYES, but kinda agree with RP about ORGAN and MUSCLE HEAD, which also triggered that same Archie Bunker memory of Meathead … a term which cries out for an emoji.

RooMonster 8:48 AM  

Hey All !
Your skin is an ORGAN, you can point to that. 😁 Did get a chuckle out of Rex's "I absolutely do not want you to point at your ORGAN."

Good puz for a Tuesday. TWO PARTs of ones body, coming together to form a different thing. Although, MOUTH ORGAN sounds like something naughty. Har

Three days in a row now without F's. This is my crusade. Seems odd that a fairly normal letter gets left behind so often in these crosswords. "Gimme an F! Gimme an F! Gimme an F! Gimme an F! What's that spell? FFFF!" 😁

Liked it. That's it. Have a great Tuesday.

No F's
RooMonster
DarrinV

Ted 8:50 AM  

@Rex complains about ORGAN not being a good fit for a distinct body part, but MUSCLE is equally vague. Lots of those, none truly visible since we have skin. And EYES are plural, so HEART EYES is THREE parts, isn't it? I mean, still a fun little Tuesday, but if we want to pick apart the theme there are several issues. :)

Cliff 8:53 AM  

Same problem for me, except I had SExTET, and had no idea that a LAY could be a ballad. Stared at that empty square far too long.

Anonymous 8:54 AM  

Had a good chuckle over MOUTH ORGAN because it took me back to a Little Rascals episode where Old Cap the teacher asks Stymie to play a tune on his "mouth organ"

Wendy 8:58 AM  

Sophia Loren and Carlo Ponti were married for over 40 years, only ending with his death in 2007.

MissScarlet 9:01 AM  

Actually, Ponti and Loren were married twice, for a total of 41 years, until his death. Their first marriage was annulled because Italy, at that time, didn’t recognize his divorce from his first wife.

waryoptimist 9:09 AM  

Ahh, back to usual this morning with a (mildish) Rexrant on a fine puzzle. Nice downs, in particular. I had no problem with MOUTHORGAN, it's a cool sounding phrase (no X-rated comments please). I believe that skin is considered an organ, so point to that if you feel the need to point to something.Thought Rex would focus on the revealer, which was a little underwhelming

Easy medium Tuesday for me, got slowed down by VERSACE- I started out wanting VERAWANG until I saw it didn't fit, and got thrown off. And of course puzzled over LAY for a while, still have to google that to understand the ballad connection

Overall one thumb up and the other in a neutral position

pabloinnh 9:10 AM  

Always fun to start off with unknown pop singers and the name of an emoji. No clue on either, but crosses to the rescue.

I knew LAY because of "The LAY of the Last Minstrel", but I'd be hard pressed to come up with another LAY ballad, unless you count LAY Lady LAY.

Didn't know ASIAM and it was interesting to fill in ISSA which led to ISSARAE, as I'm used to seeing just the surname That at least is familiar from many previous puzzles.

Thought your Tuesday was fine, PC, except the revealer showed up early, which is a Poor Choice. Thanks for a fair amount of fun.

@Roo-Don't know if I can, but I'm claiming a half point for a constructor's name. OK for you to do the same when you can.

jberg 9:47 AM  

Simple theme, which is fine on a Tuesday. Only HANDS BACK has both parts with non-body-part meanings; MOUTH ORGAN gets halfway there, and I guess one could argue that the Valentine's HEART is not the same as the one in your chest. But that's a very minor point.

I do admire the audacity of putting both AHH and ACH in the same puzzle; also TEES and CEE.

The clue for RENO makes me feel my age; certainly there has always been gambling there, but in my youth all anyone outside of Nevada knew about RENO is that you could go there for a quickie divorce. Despite their nostalgic appeal, those were not the golden days.

Anonymous 9:51 AM  

I agree!! Where do you get LAY for ballad????

Nancy 9:52 AM  

Quick! Which one does not belong? I skimmed Rex immediately to see if he'd already pointed out the ORGAN mistake -- and he had: right at the top of his column. So there's no point in my piling on. And that's all I got, everyone.

Well, I do have one reply to Southside Johnny. He says he can't name or recognize 90% of emojis. I can beat you there, SJ. I can't name or recognize 100% of emojis -- hell, I can't even make out what's on their tiny, ugly scrunched-up faces -- and I do wish people would stop sending them to me.

Mark K 9:55 AM  

Had sextet before sestet and wondering what body part ended in x. Sigh

Anonymous 10:00 AM  

Can someone explain how you get LAY from BALLAD ?

jberg 10:02 AM  

Pablo beat me to it, but here for you doubters is a link to the text of The LAT of the Last Minstrel, by Walter Scott. I think that use of the word mostly went out with the Renaissance, if not the Middle Ages--Scott was deliberately being archaic to fit the poem.

While the verb "hand" does derive from the use of the hand, I think it has evolved beyond that. E.g., Trump is demanding that Panama HAND over the Canal Zone.

Anonymous 10:06 AM  

For RooMonster: Feel fine, fella. Fortunately, fast friends find friendly friendships fortuitously fascinating.

Nancy 10:07 AM  

That would have been SO much better!!!

Anonymous 10:10 AM  

I think it was the Sunday NYT crossword.

Anonymous 10:12 AM  

55 down

RooMonster 10:14 AM  

@pablo
Har! Constructors name! Nice...

RooMonster I Believe You're Leading So Far This Year Guy

burtonkd 10:15 AM  

Good one

Tom T 10:15 AM  

My problem entirely. And I never solved it. A dnf on a Tuesday, very odd.

burtonkd 10:19 AM  

Sorry, but if you don’t know 3 letter pop band is BTS by now, that’s on you. One guest blogger mentions them every time she posts.

burtonkd 10:19 AM  

Hands up for not knowing that sense of LAY

Nancy 10:20 AM  

I often love words for the beauty of their sound as much as for their meaning. SHANNON is one of those words. But in addition, I can't hear the word SHANNON without hearing traditional Irish and Scottish folk music in my head. And that sad, yearning pentatonic scale -- it has a profound emotional effect on me that's, well, different from the emotional effect that other types of music have on me. Anyone else?

Nancy 10:22 AM  

Yes, but she had a long affair with Cary Grant.

jae 10:38 AM  

Easy. No erasures and BTS as clued was it for WOEs.

I’m with @Rex on this one.

Dennis 10:42 AM  

Same for me. I came here to figure out why BALLAD could be LAY. Like @Cliff, I had SEXTET first. And had only HEART??EX. Even though I could see the emoji in my mind, I kept wanting to write in HEARTFLEX, which made no sense. It was a DNF for me.

pabloinnh 10:44 AM  

Just wanted to say that of course BTS is familiar, thanks to Clare, but as far as naming individual performers, can't do it.

noni 10:46 AM  

Me too.

jb129 10:58 AM  

Pleasant - even easier than yesterday.

EasyEd 10:59 AM  

Agree with @Nancy on Irish ballads—Oh Danny Boy has been with me since childhood. Re the puzzle, the theme was kinda loose but all the combinations were easy so no harm no foul. Was held up in the end by careless nEeDHELP instead of SENDHELP because it seemed so obvious I didn’t immediately check the crosses. LAY came somewhere from the deep recesses on my mind.

Mercury Mouth 11:00 AM  

Thanks for talking about Carlo Ponti, and I had never heard of a musclehead.

Anonymous 11:03 AM  

I’m guessing that the constructor ment “a box full of newborn kittens”, i.e., a litter.

Anonymous 11:03 AM  

sui crossing with an albums i've never heard of was a woe

Anonymous 11:07 AM  

Same problem here. Never heard of BALLAD as LAY and couldn’t parse put eyes …

kitshef 11:16 AM  

On my last birthday, a lot of people sent me birthday wishes, and most of them stuck some emoji at the end. I did not know what any of them were supposed to mean, and of course they are so small I would not recognize them if I had known them.

I made sure to reply to each person, and at the end of the reply I put two or three randomly selected emoji. I really hoped someone would come back and ask my why I was posting - I don't know - 'moose lady bemused' on my reply, but no one questioned it. I conclude that no one else knows what they mean, either.

Anonymous 11:20 AM  

Who wouldn’t?!

Anonymous 11:21 AM  

LAY- never heard of it. Some clues were misleading. Finished the puzzle but didn’t enjoy it.

Anonymous 11:24 AM  

LAY and BALLAD are synonyms. Open a dictionary before whining.

LAY Noun (2) a simple narrative poem: BALLAD (m-w)

Dan P 11:50 AM  

I noticed that even though the main NYT has adopted the two-L spelling for "tranquillity", the clue for 15A used the one-L spelling that I still prefer, so score one for the Xword editors.

As for evocations from SHANNON, I like the 1976 song by Henry Gross.

M and A 11:53 AM  

Is this our Valentine puz, this year? [see 17-A]. Be still, my organ.

staff weeject: LAY. No contest. Had a great moo-cow-slaughterin TuesPuz clue of mystery. {Ballad} clue has been used 4 times in Shortzmeister puzs, tho ... last time was in 1998.
honorable mention to BTS, which M&A can only ever remember as bein BLT.

Thanx, Mr. Coulter dude. Nice body of work.

Masked & Anonymo2Us

... and for the D.T. fans ...

"Double Trouble" - 7x7 12 min. themed runt puzzle:

**gruntz**

M&A

Nancy 12:13 PM  

Touche, Anon 11:20 -- and I know you're a woman!

Stillwell 12:18 PM  

A lay is a medieval ballad. Maybe too obscure for a Tuesday though.

Bob Mills 12:21 PM  

I agree they're synonyms. But most of the solvers had no idea. Maybe it's OK to say, "LAY could have been clued more reasonably." For examples, "prefix for 'man or 'preacher. Or, "_____ to rest."

SFR 12:45 PM  

I think that what they call it when they give you a necklace of flowers in Hawaii

Anonymous 12:49 PM  

Agreed. Maybe it’s unknown because people don’t read as much poetry nowadays…? We read multiple lays in English class when I was in high school fifty years ago.
From Encyclopedia Britannica: “A lay may be a song, a melody, a simple narrative poem, or a ballad, such as those written in the early 19th century by Sir Walter Scott and Thomas Macaulay.”

okanaganer 12:50 PM  

Tough for me because of never having heard HEART EYES or that particular clue for LAY. Also IN VITRO, SESTET instead of SEXTET, etc.

Just scanning the grid I noticed the answer HIT HER... what on earth?

The 5 downs from yesterday are giving us their 62 across today. At least there's no BAMA!

Anonymous 12:59 PM  

"command shift +" will enlarge the font and emoji. My bifocals shortcut. "command -" will shrink it back.

Anonymous 1:03 PM  

Thank you @Stllwell !

Anoa Bob 1:09 PM  

Learned a long time ago that LAY could mean "ballad" from, yep, crossword puzzles.

This is another four theme plus reveal grid but today the total number of squares they take up is more modest. That plus 36 black squares left a little more room for some interesting fill, especially among the ten seven-letter Downs.

SEA LEGS always brings a smile to this old sailor's face. It's quite amazing how for the first day or two at SEA you are consciously adjusting and compensating for the ship's movements and then, as if by magic, another part of the brain takes over and gives you SEA LEGS without even thinking about it at all. It becomes automatic.

During the few hours it takes when you come back into port to get your land LEGS back, you stagger and stumble around like a drunken sailor. Comical.

With a kitten MEW, a purring CAT and a bunch of cute PUPPIES in the grid, I thought maybe Rex would use some HEART EYES to describe his solve.

Anonymous 1:15 PM  

LOL. Thank you. That joke made up for the 10 minutes I spent asking myself "huh"?

Anonymous 1:26 PM  

I’m with the puzzled many who do not understand how BALLAD is a clue for LAY. Even knowing the answer, I still don’t get it. Anybody?

Steve Washburne 1:28 PM  

Easy peasy except for SW, where ASIAM crossing ISSARAE was a NATICK.

Nancy 1:31 PM  

Too funny, @kitshef!!

Gary Jugert 1:47 PM  

Google translates COME HITHER LOOK into Spanish as Ven acá y mira. That goes more to "come over here and see this gross thing." Not sure how to make it seem hither-ier.

Epic thud on the reveal, but otherwise a harmless outing. MUSCLE HEAD is hilarious. Very nicely balanced gunk and fun to see more geography and less abbreviations.

I teach harmonica. It takes exactly 15 minutes to learn. I think it would weird people out if I said I am a MOUTH ORGAN coach, but in German that's exactly what I would say. Speaking of German, our 5-word German crossword dictionary was sufficient yet again. ACH.

Isn't DOOM a great word?

People: 5
Places: 6
Products: 4
Partials: 4
Foreignisms: 3
--
Gary's Grid Gunk Gauge: 22 of 76 (29%)

Funnyisms: 3 😐

Tee-Hee: ANNALS. LAY. COME HITHER.

Uniclues:

1 Chapstick.
2 Anytime a boomer presses SEND without supervision.
3 Completes the back stabbing.
4 Too smart for anyone's good, probably.
5 How to brush a very small baby's teeth.
6 Tom and Jerry being Tom and Jerry.

1 ALOE MOUTH ORGAN
2 SEND HELP POSTS
3 HANDS BACK PARER (~)
4 ACADEMY RATED (~)
5 IN VITRO ORAL-B
6 CAT-RAT ENLACED

My Fascinating Crossword Uniclue Keepsake from Last Year: Make a blue copy of a blues machine. MIMEOGRAPH PHONOGRAPH.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Anonymous 1:54 PM  

Oh, come on. LAY! Also LAI, the French origin of our English word. Who doesn't know that?

Gary Jugert 1:58 PM  

Lay went right in for me. Medieval history for the win.

Anne 2:04 PM  

This is how I read it too :)

Anne 2:05 PM  

I found this super hard for a Tuesday, but mostly because it was full of proper nouns which is my weakness. The theme was the easiest part for sure!

Anonymous 2:11 PM  

Funny how age affects what you know/don't know or remember/forgot. "Carlo Ponti" and "Lay" were cinches for me but I never heard of ISSA RAE and struggled to remember which letter came fourth after HTM_. Time just marches on, toting little pieces of my memory bank with each march.

dgd 2:52 PM  

Beezer
Don’t know if this helps bus sestet is from Italian and sextet is from Latin. I remember because Italian changes Latin x to s.

Anonymous 2:59 PM  

Dr. A
But hands a 3rd person singular verb , often used metaphorically. So there is more of a separation than with mouth
On the other hand I thought it was the least interesting themer

Anonymous 3:12 PM  

skin largest organ of the integumentary system.

Anonymous 3:15 PM  

Kitshef & Nancy
Your exchange on emojis was very funny.
I almost never use them. Putting aside the fact they can be confusing ( I do understand a thumb’s up and Heart emojis which are the most common I get). For me they are slower than typing so why bother.

Anonymous 3:16 PM  

I googled it OED

Andrew Z. 3:38 PM  

Boring and nothing fun about it. Technically DNF because I lost interest and quit.

dgd 3:44 PM  

Again I don’t agree with Rex on the theme. To me not spectacular but fine.
I like mouth organ the best because it sounds funny. ( In the late sixties and early seventies when many in the general public still played instruments, not just pros, I heard them referred to as harps).
Hand back was boring to me.
I misread litter as little so that made it easier! Rex’s nit was overdone but that’s Rex. Muscle head is definitely a thing but trending old so a generational issue?
BTS is crosswordese now 3 letter pop group Try BTS. Claire helped too
Surprised how many didn’t know SUI
Way too well known to be considered part of a natick though.
I remember the first time I read Anoa Bob he gave a short overview of his time in the navy. I found it very interesting

LesleyB 5:25 PM  

Evil Under the Sun remains my favorite of all Christie adaptations. Branagh has really mangled his adaptations, they’re just..bad.

Bunnifred 6:01 PM  

I was originally going to say hearing mews from the litterbox signifies pain. But I do have one cat who tells us everytime he goes #2, proudly. Regardless, annoying clue.
I WISH there had been a crossdressing or openly trans or non-binary character in Barbie.

Unknown 6:02 PM  

Hither. Come hither.

jae 6:03 PM  

Me too for knowing Lay=ballad from xwords along with things like Agra, amah, ogre, ecru...

egsforbreakfast 6:25 PM  

I'm posting this just to see what happens. My two earlier posts today (which were hilarious but somewhat risqué and also slightly critical of a blog-owner-who-shall-not-be-named) were not published. I wonder about this one.

Anonymous 7:03 PM  

I only knew LAY because of Tolkien. Never heard of sestet though!

Hugh 8:34 PM  

A fine Tuesday for me though nothing terribly exciting. Like so many, learned a new word with Lay - a happy take-away.
I thought the theme was fine, understand where @Rex is coming from but it didn't bother me all that much - just not a lot of sparkle.
For no real reason I can thing of, I like the way ROOMKEY looks in the grid and like the way it sounds - that may have been my highlight - which may speak to the overall excitement of the grid.
All in all a nice romp, cute theme even though a couple may not have hit the nail on the head.

okanaganer 10:09 PM  

Come hit her? That's even worse. 😉

Gary Jugert 10:22 PM  

@egsforbreakfast 6:25 PM
In my experience, they usually let criticism of the boss slide, but anything risqué can cause the axe to drop. I've dialed back the TEE-HEES to the point of anemia.

ghostoflectricity 11:02 PM  

"Lay" is dated crossword puzzle jargon for a romantic and/or sad song (i.e., a ballad) sung typically by medieval troubadours; it used to come up a lot back in the day with this meaning but I don't remember seeing it recently, at least not for many years. Did not know HEARTEYES, and I agree with Rex that "organ" is a general term for a body part with a specific function (and that if not otherwise specified is often a term for one's reproductive "part"), while the rest are specific body parts, so this does not fit the theme well at all.

I just recently saw "Evil Under the Sun" on one of the streaming services for the first time and I disagree heartily with Rex; this movie was slow-moving, talky, filled with not-clever gimmickry, and with an implausible resolution in which the culprit is exposed due to a stupid and easily avoided ruse on his part. Thoroughly boring, unconvincing, and a waste of the acting talents of Peter Ustinov (whose silly Walloon French accent and scenery-chewing are unbearable throughout), Maggie Smith, James Mason (this was one of his last films), Diana Rigg, Sylvia Miles, and others. A snoozefest from start to end IMHO.

Anonymous 9:32 AM  

Here's a good place to put an F: F.ELON working for a FELON!

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