Mobile relatives / SAT 10-22-22 / Duo who have to give up their foosball table spot / Santa's is H0H 0H0 in Canada / Desus & Mero airer for short / Fourth letter of Arabic alphabet / Democracy imperative

Saturday, October 22, 2022

Constructor: Brooke Husic and Yacob Yonas

Relative difficulty: Easy


THEME: none 

Word of the Day: STABILES (5D: Mobile relatives) —
STABILE (n.): an abstract sculpture or construction similar in appearance to a mobile but made to be stationary (merriam-webster.com) 

[Jerusalem Stabile I, Alexander Calder]

Alexander Calder (/ˈkɔːldər/; July 22, 1898 – November 11, 1976) was an American sculptor known both for his innovative mobiles (kinetic sculptures powered by motors or air currents) that embrace chance in their aesthetic, his static "stabiles", and his monumental public sculptures. Calder preferred not to analyze his work, saying, "Theories may be all very well for the artist himself, but they shouldn't be broadcast to other people." (wikipedia)
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Well, this has been quite a three-day run—I've barely groaned, ughed, or thrown my computer across the room once! Today's themeless puzzle provides an interesting comparison (and counterpoint) to yesterday's. Both puzzles played easy for me, and both are crammed with vibrant longer entries. Both of them have the kind of whoosh-whoosh flow I most enjoy in my themeless puzzles, and both feel very current and fresh. By way of contrast, yesterday's had almost no popular culture or trivia in it—hardly a proper noun in sight—whereas today's puzzle has names coming at you left and right. We start with a big-ass proper noun right off the bat at 1A: World capital whose name means "new flower" (ADDIS ABABA), though geography is not the type of trivia that typically flummoxes people. It's the names from the entertainment field (movies, music, sports) that can really split a solving audience, sometimes in terms of puzzle enjoyment, but especially in terms of puzzle difficulty. ELENA Delle Donne is either an out-and-out gimme ... or else you end up having to piece every part of her name together from crosses. I mean, you could say something similar, at least in theory, about every single answer in every single crossword (you know it or you have to cross it), but names tend to illustrate that problem most dramatically. Today's names, for me, were all mainstream and fairly crossed, and when you fall on the "hey, I know these people!" side of the trivia gap, the puzzle really speeds up, which tends to feel great. Even if I come at this puzzle from a trivia-hater's perspective, I have to believe it was still pretty doable, and that the bulk of the puzzle provided other fabulous answers aplenty. I think yesterday's puzzle showed that a grid doesn't need proper nouns to feel current, and I think this puzzle shows that you can pepper your grid with proper nouns as long as they are either mainstream-famous or fairly crossed. Turns out I enjoy both kinds of puzzles. 


So what's so enjoyable about today? For me, the puzzle kicked into gear with "IS THAT A YES?"—that's the first bit of real flair, and probably my favorite answer in the grid ("OH REALLY?" UH, YEAH, really). I liked ALL-TIME HIGH, and liked that it ironically crashed down to the bottom of the grid. I liked WAGERS / LOSERS occupying the same row—sometimes when you make puzzles you end up with happy accidents like that. Entertaining juxtapositions. Like "IT'S ALL OVER" hovering ominously above NEARLYWEDS! I'm an EMPTY-NESTER, my mom grew up in IDAHO, I enjoy a good MALBEC—in virtually every way, this puzzle was in my wheelhouse. The things I thought were going to throw me—the science/tech-sounding stuff—ended up being very tame and no problem at all (DATA POINT, PH TEST). I was lucky enough to learn ARO just last week, in a different crossword puzzle. I knew about ACE (asexual) but couldn't make it work, and eventually ended up inferring ARO (from "aromantic"), and thus learned a new term ... and then bam, here it is, coming down Main Street. Love when that happens. Surprised they put the word "romantic" in the actual clue today (since that's what the "RO" part stands for), but maybe that was necessary.


Here was my opening gambit, just in case that's interesting to people who struggle with Saturdays. 1A: World capital whose name means "new flower" didn't help much (me: "NOVA ... SCOTIA? Oof no, not even close, move on ..."). So, as usual, I attacked the short stuff first, and I was lucky enough to start with 19A: Traffic controllers, in brief?, and that "?" practically screamed "it's not automobile traffic! or air traffic!" Next traffic to occur to me: drug. And thus DEA were the "controllers." That "E" got me DOSE, and that was all I actually needed for ...


Probably could've gotten ACID from just the "D," but with the "A" in place, it was obvious, and at that point, off I went. Whoosh + whoosh. Quickly ran through all the Downs in that section, and had enough material in place to close it out fast. Was not sure about STABILES, or what exactly would follow DATA, but once I got PAIRED, both those Downs became clearer, and ALL-TIME HIGH had me to the other side of the grid in no time.

More highlights:
  • 50A: Duo who have to give up their foosball table spot (LOSERS) — I loved this, and I loved being tricked by this, And I Don't Even Like Foosball. I liked that I went from mild frustration, thinking a specific fictional duo was being asked for ("what stupid Cartoon Network show is this from!?"), to the huge aha of "oh, this is just any duo playing the dumb game in a dumb arcade or whatever ... LOSERS walk ... sure, yes, that's actually good." 
  • 32D: Knight shift, e.g. (CHESS MOVE) — only just now realizing that "Knight shift" is a pun. Maybe it's the actual term for that CHESS MOVE, but it's also a pun:
  • 28D: Fourth letter of the Arabic alphabet (THA) — I don't mind the puzzle using less-than-great fill to teach me something new, as long as said teaching doesn't bog me down, and this didn't. Thought maybe Arabic had an ETA in its alphabet too (like Greek), but no.
  • 11D: One who can finally stop postponing that long R.V. trip, maybe (EMPTY-NESTER) — maybe? uh, maybe not. It's like this clue doesn't know me at all! We just wanna be alone in a quiet house with our pets and a good book, and so that is what we are doing as much as possible with our empty nest situation. Well, we're going to NZ later this year, but that will use up all of our wanderlust for the next five years, probably. 
My friend and fellow xword blogger Rachel Fabi is coming down from Syracuse today, with baked goods (!), so my day is virtually guaranteed to be great. Hope yours goes well too.

Signed, Rex Parker, King of CrossWorld

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97 comments:

Joaquin 6:30 AM  

I thought perhaps someone had moved my wheelhouse but then I was asked for the [Fourth letter of the Arabic alphabet] and I realized Brooke Husic had burned my wheelhouse to the ground.

Anybody else do this? I had _ _ N T _ _ _ for [Intimates] and tried to put paNTies there.

Conrad 6:38 AM  


Played harder for me than @Rex, mostly due to short WOEs: ELENA (13D), the first two letters of UH YEAH (24A), THA (28D), APU (30A), ARO (44D) and SETH (62A). I don't get PIN for Fix at 58D. Is it because you PIN a hem that has dropped?

Lewis 6:58 AM  

Ah, a work ethic puzzle for me! Oh, I love to work hard, to bust my BEHIND, and the feeling I get when it pays off.

I look at the answers in the grid, and there are only a few out of my knowledge, so the huge resistance I encountered was in the cluing. Vague cluing, misdirect cluing, upper-level wordplay cluing. The kind of cluing I want on a Saturday – riddle cluing, where each square filled in from a cross is like a new hint. Riddle cluing, where I have to keep finding new angles of approach, and where the cracking of the riddle is cause for great inner celebration and a deep nod of respect for the clue’s author.

Clues like:
[Peak figure] for ALL TIME HIGH
[Someone to split the bill with] for COSTAR
And there were good deal more.

Therein for me, lies one of the major joys of crossword. When I was a kid, my sister and I played with words, making silly words that sounded funny, making elementary wordplay jokes. These are some of my happiest memories. But now, as an adult, with an adult brain, I want the same thing at a far deeper level.

And today you two brought it, Brooke and Yacob. This was stellar. Hard work happiness mixed with riddle cracking happiness – bliss. Yes, it would be a great idea for you two to make more puzzles. Please and thank you!

OffTheGrid 7:01 AM  

ASS is fine as an answer but the clue for it today is gratuitously gauche. It's not really offensive to me. It is, however, in very poor taste and completely unnecessary. There is no good reason for this. Takes the shine off a nice puzzle.

Marc 7:36 AM  

Was I the only one to get naticked on the AMU/AMP cross?

Son Volt 7:45 AM  

Usually these constructors spit fire - collaboratively today felt flat. Don’t get me wrong - there’s a lot of good stuff here - Rex highlights most of it but where yesterday’s gem gave us elegant, nuanced clueing for the conversational phrases today feels more in your face and forced.

Sailed through the opening NW - liked DATA POINT crossing TOILET. EMPTY NESTER is weak as is CHESS MOVE and COSTAR. The great USURP gets sullied by crossing it with the dim witted UH YEAH.

Love the third level angle on GAMUT although not sure of the connection between IDAHO and NE. A lot of the obscure trivia Rex talks about was new to me - but the crosses were fair. Santa’s POSTAL CODE was fantastic.

Almost jammed my pen in my higher functioning right eye upon coming across the completely useless NEARLYWEDS. Knew it after hearing it quite often on the run up to my son’s wedding earlier this year. Another example of the dumbing down of our great country - where’s Nancy’s wall when you need it?

ITS ALL OVER is such a great phrase. I can still hear my dad trying to croon the Ink Spots - but I’ll take this or even better the great one

Enjoyable enough Saturday solve - but surprisingly left me hanging. Now on to the Stumper.

TTrimble 7:56 AM  

Sigh. ASS again. This is not something I covet for my crossword. Don't get me wrong: I use the word with this sense frequently, as in "pain in the ass" or "he could use a good kick in the ass", but those are practically metaphors. This ASS seems somehow more naked, and more in the way of taking liberties or crossing a line. Don't get presumptuous with me, NYTXW.

Other than that, there's a lot to like here. I wouldn't be so presumptuous as to call the puzzle "easy", and in fact it played a little hard at first, but boy howdy it came together sweetly. EMPTY NESTER with its clue is just great. IS THAT A YES is a yes, that's in the language as they say. As is ANY IDEA and OH, REALLY and UH, YEAH. The clue for ALL TIME HIGH is sharp in its succinctness. Chef's kisses all around.

New to me is not "newlyweds" but NEARLYWEDS -- I like that. In fact this was quite an educational puzzle: I'll try to fit THA and the factoids about ADDIS ABABA and IDAHO somewhere in the old brain; you just never know where such knowledge could come in handy. And STABILES is new to me as well.

Never heard the knight's move described as a shift. It's an L-shape, is how I would describe it to someone just learning the game. And nothing gets in its way. It's a versatile sort of move. Aside: I used to play a lot of chess as a young teen, and fell in love with the Reti opening (which begins with a knight move, Nf3) because of its versatility and transpositional possibilities. But only now have I gotten wind (courtesy of the YouTube channel Remote Chess Academy) of the transposition into the Tennison Gambit, 1. Nf3 d5 2. e4!?, which I never would have dreamed of. There are traps galore in this line.

Don't know the APU trilogy. Nothing to do with APU from The Simpsons, I don't suppose?

Wanderlust 7:56 AM  

Totally different solve for me today than for Rex, but the result was the same - I loved it. I was getting nothing except little stuff (ISH, OPT) until I suddenly got a nice block of letters with I AM, TAB, MALBEC and MELISSA (“Can You Ever Forgive Me” is a great movie, by the way, and not her usual comedy type.) That block got me going.

The PPP really helped me today as it gave me footholds to tackle the extremely tricky cluing (which I loved - lots of candidates for @Lewis’ clues of the week). I hadn’t noticed that there was almost no PPP yesterday until Rex pointed it out, which made me admire the construction even more since I usually rely on it to give me ins.

One trip is enough to satisfy your wanderlust for years, Rex? As my handle indicates, I am the opposite. I’m home from a trip for about two weeks and I am lusting for the next wander.

SouthsideJohnny 8:08 AM  

Seemed like a tale of two puzzles - everything to the right and below the diagonal from the SW corner up through the NE was pretty much pure crossword delight. My only nit there is what I consider a stretch of a clue for ECHO (Ring), but wow - what a section if that is the only nit.

The upper left triangle seemed like a totally different animal. Right out of the gate we had ADDISABABA - I’ve already forgotten (twice) what it means even though I read it in the clue and in OFL’s write-up. The unfortunate thing about the abuse of an an innocent crossword answer ASS with the ASSHAT of a clue at 10D is that it is not at all surprising that the NYT continues to pursue that type of nonsense. Throw in an Arabic letter and a TOILET just to round out the festivities and well, it just seemed like a different vibe over there.

I think I’m suffering a bit from Rainbow-fatigue. ARO is a fine answer and properly clued, so more of an observation and not a complaint - it just seems a little out of place. Brooke and her co-constructors always seem to do good work, and this is no exception - plus bonus points for a crossword that’s actually in English and extra bonus points for sparing us the indignity of having to come up with the names of rap “artists”.

Anonymous 8:21 AM  

4th letter of arabic alphabet can be spelled many ways depending on local dialect. poor choice for a clue.

Anonymous 8:37 AM  

"I don't mind the puzzle using less-than-great fill to teach me something new, as long as said teaching doesn't bog me down," says Rex. Me either! Except that here he's talking about the fourth letter of the Arabic alphabet. I need to know this why?

Other annoyances:
LOSERS: Why foosball? Could've been any game in any context. "Gotcha!" says the constructor with glee.
DOLL: In what way is a DOLL an "accessory?" Hint: It isn't.
ARO: You know, I do not care who you're attracted to or who you sleep with. So we need a new term to define someone in just that way? Great.
NEARLYWEDS: Never heard of the movie because the Hallmark Channel doesn't interest me. I searched all over for any use of the word as a common noun; didn't find any.

Most of all, the clue for COASTLINES. The clue: areas impacted by global recessions? So cute! The problem, and it's a serious one, is that COASTLINES are actually most affected by global upsurges, to echo the metaphor. AKA rising sea levels. Cute trumps fact.

There were some clever clues in this one, but the pile of overly cute constructor tricks and editorial fails made this a less-than-enjoyable experience for me.

Anonymous 8:44 AM  

I blew it at APP/APU. I had ARP, which meant ARU for the cross. I didn’t want to Google the trilogy.
I found some of the clueing too cute or too clunky.
And I agree on the over-initialization of one’s romantic/sexual preferences. The more we narrow our labeling, the more we remain apart. But that’s for another forum.

burtonkd 8:51 AM  

Easy? Oh, really?? Probably a wheelhouse issue, but this took 3x longer than yesterday.

All the vague clues turned out to be fair - as Rex says, not a groaner among them. But they were all surrounded by PPP. SE was the only section that filled in right away.

How is an Indian trilogy from the 50's wheelhouse material? along with Arabic alphabet, WNBA names (which are usually non-standard spelling, but not today, but how can you trust it?), Sonia Sanchez poetry, Sasha Fierce, translation of Ethiopian geography, Deesus & Mero. Most turned out to be parsable, but geez - not "easy".

With half the puzzle blank, I finally caved and looked up "THA", which somehow allowed me to finish the puzzle. I love it when that happens.

I really LOVED the POSTALCODE clue. Just mailed something to Canada yesterday.

Answers I didn't want to fill in: although ASS was my first thought, I thought "surely not". I associate MALBEC so much with Argentina, I didn't want to accept it. TOILET (see ASS), UHYEAH - UMNOTREALLYSUREABOUTTHIS.

In case anyone can't tell, I actually really enjoyed this!

John 8:52 AM  

I hate to be the one to break it to you, but actually that was the APU / APP cross. So maybe yes?

beverly c 8:55 AM  

Well, I enjoyed puzzling this out, but I didn’t start out at all like Rex!
My pun for Knight Shift e.g. was chainmail, my 1D dropped on purpose was name. Linked instead of paired. I didn’t know the meaning of ADDISABABA off the top of my head. I had Texas where IDAHO was wanted, and for Not Supporting I wrote lead instead of ANTI. So it was an uphill battle. Thanks for BIASES, PROSHOP and COSTAR, which helped me pry this open.

Lance Lot 9:06 AM  

I was so sure that "Knight Shift" (32D) was a really really really clever clue for CHAINMAIL that I didn't want to give it up, and refused to until I had no choice.

Alas, it was hubris that made me ignore the "e.g." in the clue, which should have steered me away from CHAINMAIL.

Aelurus 9:09 AM  

What a start at ADDIS ABABA! Geography is not a strong subject for me, and when I finished the puzzle I Googled to see which country’s capital it is (Ethiopia). Initially I got the BABA but couldn’t get “Ali BABA and the 40 Thieves” out of mind so moved on, filling in bits and pieces as I found them. Eventually I returned to the NW and when I got DOSE and DATA POINT, I instantly remembered the name, which let me finish up with the downs.

Also geographically, I resisted for a long time inserting IDAHO as being slightly larger than all of New England until I had 4 of its 5 letters. I wondered: OH REALLY? Puzzle, adamant: UH YEAH. (Hi, @Rex, that’s how I saw that pair.) Maine must be a lot smaller than I think it is (it is). Found a very niche-y graphic comparing all sorts of geographical regions to New England and now I’m wondering why New England is a reference point for comparisons. I think New England will be pleased to know that Hawaii is 0.15 times as big as itself, and Florida is slightly smaller than. “Manchuria,” in NE China, is 4.22 times as large as New England but there is no comparison for the eminently larger totality of China.

Favorite clue: 58A for Canada’s POSTAL CODE, which, on pondering the clue, I dropped right in without the aid of an existing letter. What playfulness! This I will remember.

Favorite unknown answer: STABILES...stationary mobiles?, and they are! According to artsology.com, Calder said, “You have to walk around a stabile or through it – a mobile dances in front of you.” (Nice to see Alexander Calder as Rex's Word of the Day.)

Thanks, Brooke and Yacob, for the fun!

Anonymous 9:12 AM  

Amy: was delighted to get COASTLINES early on, which helped with the downs up there. This is really a super Saturday puzzle. Definitely had zest. Hope everyone has a lovely fall weekend.

Anonymous 9:21 AM  

I was. Didn’t know the trilogy, and thought ARP made sense for a modern installation (i.e., an installation of Arp’s artwork in a modern museum).

Anonymous 9:26 AM  

I dropped HINT at 1D, which I then changed to NAME after 35A (HintsAt). Didn’t see/get ACID until all the crosses were in.

SouthsideJohnny 9:30 AM  

Brooke’s name adorns the top of today’s WaPo/LAT offering as well - so that’s quite and exacta. Congrats Ms. Husic.

* WaPo Warning Alert *

There is an appropriately clued version of 10D in the WaPo today as well, with the clue using a synonym for donkeys. I wonder if the NYT editors felt compelled to cheapen the fine work of today’s constructing duo. Perhaps it was just too much to ask of them to go a day without the foreign stuff, rap artists et cetera, and do away with the juvenile bathroom humor as well. If that’s the case, I wish Shortz would be transparent about it - if he feels it’s part of skewing younger, fine - just don’t be afraid to contribute to the conversation. One of the unfortunate consequences of Rex’s animosity towards Will is that he will rarely visit this forum (I can recall once in about 5 years) - but there are plenty of other outlets if he should choose to be more forthcoming.

mmorgan 9:31 AM  

Neither Friday nor Saturday played “easy” for me but both were very pleasurable and well-made. Nice not to hav to throw your computer across the room for a few days.

Liveprof 9:41 AM  

Nice associations today. PAIRED, IS THAT A YES? NEARLYWEDS, ALTAR, IT'S ALL OVER. ACID, TAB, DOSE, ALL TIME HIGH, DEA. And, sorry about this one: STALL, TOILET, ASS. I'm not sure the breakfast test was passed.

Mike G 9:41 AM  

Way harder for me today. Not a bad puzzle, but so far outside my wheelhouse that I had a hard time loving it. Felt like every time I got some momentum, I'd get stopped by an ARO / IAM, or a SHO / APU.

Kent 9:50 AM  

I really enjoyed the puzzle, but it was anything but easy for me. A real contrast to Friday, which was similarly enjoyable but much easier; maybe the number of names, many unfamiliar, had a lot to do with that. I was bone-tired when I started the puzzle last night, so that explains part of my struggle, perhaps. But it wasn’t much easier in the cold light of day. A lot of my “inspired” guesses on the first pass were wildly wrong (I was especially proud of iceShelvES for 15A) Even the last letter to go in didn’t feel right; _OLL was obviously DOLL, but I couldn’t parse DOIN as two words until it was accepted in the grid. Ended up taking twice as long as my average on a Saturday, but since I fell asleep with the iPad on my chest* I’ll take a mulligan on this one.

* the light was turned off and my glasses were on the nightstand, though, and I’m still not sure how all that happened - I assume my wife tucked me in but missed the tablet. Or I was awake enough to tuck myself in, but only partially.

RooMonster 10:03 AM  

Hey All !
ASS seems to be at an ALL TIME HIGH in use. Wondering if the clue was going for a misdirect for LAG. I put ASS in immediately. Because, sure it is. 😁

Tough puz for me today. Tried to stay away from that Evil Google, but to no avail. Looked up the Arabic letter, which then immediately got me the Acrosses attached to it. With only having TAILS as a supporting answer. Then, still stuck in SW, Googed for SETH, and finished puz. But wait! No Happy Music. Dang. Hit Check Puzzle to find out I had ADDIS AdABA. Close enough. 😁 dIASES is as good as BIASES in my sewing knowledge.

Wanted Texas for IDAHO, had liMiT in for GAMUT. At one point down there, correctly had SEMI/ADELE cross, but still couldn't get anything else. The SETH cheat pulled it all together. Also Kealoa at MALBEC/ MeLBEC (well, for me, anyway, I'm sure others will say, "Don't you know your wine grapes, Roo?")

ITS ALL OVER but the crying.

Speaking of ALL, there's a three-,peat ALL in SE, plus two more in the grid. It's like Pokemon, try to find them ALL!

Some 'stacker stories' in here:
Does ADDIS ABABA have COASTLINES? IS THAT A YES?
Said after a crushing defeat? - STUNS? UH, YEAH
"I gotta go!" - TOILET HINTS
Golfers assessment? - PROSHOP PH TEST
Bets the farm? - WAGERS IDAHO
Also-rans place? - LOSERS VISTA
Can't come up with a decent one for POSTAL CODES ITS ALL OVER NEARLYWEDS. Feel free to add your own!

No F'S (ANY IDEAs?)
RooMonster
DarrinV


Anonymous 10:05 AM  

Just a question to all the folks who have trouble with the word “ass” as clued today. Why in the name of whatever God you choose is there anything dirty, gauche, in poor taste, questionable, or otherwise objectionable about the word ass? I mean,really, your discomfort with the so in the language word ass to refer to your booty, heinie, rear end, butt, tail, etc. is more juvenile than its use. Grow up please.

Diego 10:11 AM  

Rebecca Goldstein and Rafael Musa are not easy acts to follow, and these two did fine—but not exceptional. Workmanlike, yes, mostly gettable trivia, yes, some cute clueing and colloquial answers, yes. Sizzle? Not so much. And definitely not easy or flowing as OFL would have it.
The Apu Trilogy, BTW, is one of the great movie masterpieces of the 20th century; find it, and watch it! I saw it in the early 60s at the legendary “art house” cinema on Telegraph Avenue in Berkeley CA where Pauline Kael wrote film notes for the theater. Speaking of sizzle, she invented it!

Bill 10:18 AM  

I felt like a lot of the clues were a little too far off in their Saturday-isms. Not just aslant but kind of wrong. Like, dosing, giving people lsd non knowingly, was a real thing. Parleys are a kind of wager but also a specific thing themselves. And the uh/oh is just arbitrary. All that added up to a long slog for me (and that was knowing Elena!).

But, hey, at least Southsidejohnny is really helping Jerseys rep by scoffing at non binary genders and rappers.

Anonymous 10:21 AM  

Agree, enjoyable. Looked up SETH Vikram - he’s a new one on me.

Carola 10:31 AM  

My answer to ANY IDEA? for Across clues 1-28 was "UH, no." But then to the rescue came APU and its friendly crosses, which happily branched out to fill the grid. Lots of fun along the way with the snappy answers and devious clues.

@burtonkd 8:51: "How is an Indian trilogy from the 50's wheelhouse material?" Believe me, I gave a nod of thanks to the college friend who in 1967 invited me to go with her to a campus screening of Ray's "Pather Panchali," the first movie of the trilogy. An unforgettable film, highly recommend.

@beverly c and @Lance Lot - I love your chainmail shift!

Teedmn 10:40 AM  

Rex says “though geography is not the type of trivia that typically flummoxes people” and that's probably because the names don’t change (often) and the number of capitals in the world is smaller than the pop culture population. I got Addis Ababa when I had ____IS_B___ in place. My 8th grade teacher was rather obsessed with Haile Selassie for some reason. Knowing sewing terms gave me BIASES. But crosses played a key role in SETH, ADELE (as clued), ELENA and ARO, I did know MALBEC so UH, YEAH!

I NEARLY had a DNF. I was missing the middle letter at the cross of 27D and 30A. I was thinking there could be some ArP artwork in a modern *art* installation and “The ArU Trilogy”, sure, why not? But something made me think an APP was a better guess for 27D and APU agreed.

Nice job Brooke and Yacob, thanks.

Aelurus 10:41 AM  

@Roo 10:03 am – Loved your post, especially the fabulous find of a “three-peat” of crossing ALLs in the far SE. And the constructors factored in, fairly or not, two further ALLs? For what it’s worth, I can forthrightly say I found them ALL. Fun game within the game. Hope this might feasibly help to fix the woeful lack-of-F issue.

Nancy 10:43 AM  

Couldn't solve this thing. I tried to keep the faith as I moved successfully and cheatlessly through the entire Eastern half, but when I got back to the West, I had all the same "Huh?"s I'd had on my first pass.

Would a cheat on ADELE spring everything loose for me? Nah -- it just got me the SW but left the NW white as snow. And I had gaSPS, not WISPS for "puffs". I hate WISPS. I don't really get WISPS.

So now the Big Cheat. I came here and scrolled down as far as ADDIS ABABA (anyone know that from the clue???) but looked at nothing else. That one answer consumed enough real estate that I was now able to "finish" the puzzle.

I wanted NAME, not ACID, for the thing you drop intentionally, though I never wrote it in. I didn't know THA nor DOLL as clued nor DATA POINT nor PAIRED as clued nor STABILES nor ANY IDEA (vague, vague, vague clue!) I was on such a different wavelength from the constructors that I might as well have been in ADDIS ABABA.

Congrats to everyone who solved this cleanly. I found it impossible.

Chris 10:56 AM  

Also worth noting that Bruce Springsteen released a nice cover of "Nightshift" this week.
Puzzle played just below my Sat. average. APU was my first entry as a dead giveaway for me. Played a lot of foosball during my wayward college years, so did my fair bit of leaving the table.

Nancy 11:06 AM  

Thanks to so many here for reminding of the clue/answers I found quite unfair along the way but forgot to mention.

I did mention puffs = WISPS, but had forgotten about:

Fix = PIN
Ring = ECHO
Parlays = WAGERS

(I had circled all of them to remind myself to mention them in my comment, but being me, I forgot.)

To me there's a big difference between clever tricky clues and slightly "off" clues that futz up a person's solve. And today there were many too many of the latter, I thought. I agree wholeheartedly with @Bill.

David G. 11:06 AM  

Does anyone else ever feel, “Wow, today’s puzzle was really hard?” but at the end your completion time in the app is much faster than your average? That was me today. The SW took me the longest… in my geographic fog, I wanted India for IDAHO, and ALLTIMEbest for ALLTIMEHIGH, which really slowed me down in that corner. ADELE was a gimme, but hEat for SEMI also added to my WOES. Somehow sorted it all out, and was surprised to see I’d finished faster than usual. So, super-easy everywhere else, but almost DNF in the SW.

bocamp 11:15 AM  

Thx, Brooke & Yacob, for an refreshing Sat. puz. with lots of clever clueing! :)

Med-hard.

Struggled mightily with this one. Footholds leading to the 'peak' were scarce.

WALL before MALL (hid EMPTY); name & A mIc before ACID; no REALLY before OH REALLY; ArP before APP.

Learned the meaning of ADDIS ABABA from 'The Long Way Down' with Ewan McGregor and Charley Boorman (Apple TV+). Still, took a few crosses before it clicked.

Good guess at the MALBEC / ARO cross.

New: I AM; SETH; APU; THA; 'Easy on Me'; ARO; MELLISA; 'Desus & Mero'; ELENA.

Liked the clues for PRO SHOP & NEARLY WEDS.

POSTAL CODE & CHESS MOVE were rare gimmes.

Love my Beats Flex 'bluetooth' earphones, but they seem to have a time limit; I need to re-PAIR them too often during the day.

A most enjoyable mental challenge; liked it a lot! :)

On to the NYT' Acrostic & Steve Mossberg's Saturday Stumper. 🤞
___
Peace 🕊 🇺🇦 ~ Compassion ~ Tolerance ~ Kindness to all 🙏

jae 11:17 AM  

Medium. I got off to a slow start by assuming some version of “nuevo” would be part of 1a. It took a while to let that go especially since “name” worked with 1d. The bottom half went more quickly. The most personally embarrassing part for me was blanking on the “A Suitable Boy” author. I’ve read all 1300+ pages of that book which we now use to prop up my iPad when we face time. So I’m in physical contact with the book a couple of times a week and I still needed the crosses. D’oh!

A delightful challenge, liked it a bunch.

FWIW I just finished the Oct. 17, AVXwords puzzle by Brooke which took me 50% longer to finish than this one and it was a 9X9 grid. So this could have been even tougher.

NitPicker 11:25 AM  

On behalf of all those who have occasional trouble understanding someone's comment, I would like to ask posters to identify the post on which they are commenting, unless it is clearly obvious from the text. (See, for example, @Anonymous 9:21, starting with "I was." ?) Too often a poster's comment appears several posts after it was written....where it doesn't make sense.

CDilly52 11:25 AM  

@Anon 8:37 AM. I got all grumpy for a hot second on COASTLINES for the same reason, but forgave it - again for the same reason.

CDilly52 11:31 AM  

@Anon 8:44 AM. I agree that labeling people/preferences may be for another forum but applaud your comment. We spend time with our kids trying to teach them not to name-call and label and then in our desire to understand (maybe?) we create a new host of boxes for people. Hmmmm.

Gary Jugert 11:32 AM  

This puzzle wasn't written for me. Few Saturdays are. This one made me grouchy.

After 40 minutes of picking I finally Go-ogle-d ADDIS ABABA and wrapped up the northwest. I am so weak on African geography and a big answer like that takes a lot of real estate and beats up a bunch of crosses.

So many folksy phrases meant they all became a bit of a droning irritant. Depending on the day, and maybe the constructor, 🦖 seems to come down on both sides of multi-word colloquial phrases, but today there's too many.

The cluing otherwise is great and I love knowing Santa's postal code. NEARLY WEDS is cute and new to me. STABILES was a surprise.

Too much junk and PPP for a themeless: THA, IAM, APU, ADELE crossing SETH, the size of one random geographic area vs. another random geographic area, ISH, ARO, BEEN, SHO, ELENA.

Ring = ECHO?

A special word of thanks for including ASS and TOILET in the same grid. That requires real talent. So edgy too. Oh wait, we do this crap daily now. Ug.

Uniclues:

1 Horror movie month.
2 Sleeping in the gutter.
3 Where casinos come from.
4 Grand mountain ranges and right-wing wackadoos.
5 Singer roidin'.
6 Bovine setting up a a craft room.

1 DOLL SEASON
2 MALBEC REST
3 LOSERS' WAGERS (~)
4 IDAHO VISTA MIX
5 ADELE DOIN' DOSE (~)
6 EMPTY NESTER COW

Tom T 11:32 AM  

Moved smoothly through the grid until all that was left was the SW. I had ALLTIMEHIGH and SEMI and nothing else would come. I finally through in IDAHO as a guess from just the H--still couldn't see WAGERS or WISPS or GAMUT or PLUG (duh!)--any one of those would have provided the breakthrough. No idea about SETH or ARO.

Finally succumbed to Reveal Puzzle. Dang.

CDilly52 11:33 AM  

Me too @Lance Lot 9:06! Especially because this is a Brooke Husic, I was ready to fall on my sword wearing my CHAIN MAIL! Alas.

Hack mechanic 11:37 AM  

Me also, mainly because I went with "subshop" 36A. Where one might look for a good club!

thfenn 11:43 AM  

Definitely not easy, but got through it. More or less worked like I'd expect - get some of the short fIll and the long answers pop out, like getting Ethiopia's capital from DATA___, ISH, and ASS. Loved making the leap from global recessions to tides to seashores to COASTLINES. The flow was tough for me - I had the whole west side done with little to move on in the east, finished in the NE after untangling steal with USURP, and finally going with ECHO. Harder, I think, than yesterday's, with a little more work and a little less fun.

Anonymous 11:44 AM  

“Fix” to mean “secure into place”.

mathgent 11:51 AM  

Like Diego (10:11), I was around in the fifties and sixties when all the film critics were raving about the APU Trilogy.

I guess that KNIGHTSHIFT refers to the knight's L-shaped move. I don't think that it's an established chess term.

At one time, people would say "I'm going to use the facilities." Now I hear "I'm going to the john." People don't like "toilet," I guess. The main airport in Maui has a "Men's Toilet" sign, though.

Anonymous 11:54 AM  

How does Ring=ECHO?

Whatsername 11:59 AM  

A solid challenging Saturday that I struggled mightily to finish, starting with the NW section which was especially tough. Had HINT before ACID, THOUGHT before ANY IDEA, DRAIN before BASIN, SHARED before PAIRED, and since ADDIS ABABA was a complete mystery, no help there. At that POINT, I was thinking I wish that particular answer was somewhere else because it’s a pretty big hurdle at 1A, even on a Saturday.

But the bigger disappointment was when I realized that the answer for 10D was going to be the three-letter word I was desperately hoping it would not be. How sad. Considering the levels of knowledge, skill, versatility, subtlety, and sophistication which typically make up a NYT crossword puzzle, do we really need to go there?

No. We don’t.

Anonymous 12:05 PM  

@Southside Johnny: Yes, Ms. Husic is one of the constructors on today's WaPo puzzle, and, believe it or not, one of the clues is "first letter of the Urdu alphabet."

Chip Hilton 12:09 PM  

One wrong letter can kill. I went witH sEEN instead of BEEN for the poetry clue and that totaled flummoxed me on 1 across. What capital ends in ABASA? So, the nw corner was my one tie up in an otherwise quick Saturday journey. Not complaining. This was loaded with terrific facts and language. I’ve always been a square miles fan, having taught fifth grade geography. Loved telling the kids that 53 of our Connecticuts could fit in Texas, for example. So the New England = Idaho clue was a favorite. Thanks, Brooke and Yacob. Come on, Yankees!

pabloinnh 12:23 PM  

Started in the SE with VOTE and VISTA and around I went in fairly smooth fashion, ending at USURP, with almost no major roadblocks. IAM X MELISSA was about the worst, but easy enough to guess.

Our minister in my tiny church in my tiny Upstate NY town had served in ADDISABABA and maintained some connection to it, so that filled in with a few letters, although I never knew what it meant.

I like a clue like "mobile" for STABILE-hey, here's half your answer. You're welcome.

Have watched enough Canadian TV to know POSTALCODE right away, even without thinking about the HO HO stuff.

IDAHO may be bigger than NE, but I think we have fewer militia members.

And I always enjoy seeing the name ELENA Delle Donne, which is the most mellifluous name in sports, says me.

Very nice Saturday indeed, BH and YY. and well done you. Been Hankering for a puzz with such a nice Yin Yang combination, and here it was, and thanks for all the fun.

sixtyni yogini 12:23 PM  

Good points, 🦖.
But this one was not for me. Seemed lifeless after the past two days.
Where’s the sparkle 💥? Aside from a glint here and there.
😞🦖🦖🦖🦖😞

CDilly52 12:28 PM  

I love Brooke Husic puzzles. Doesn’t mean I cab always solve them, but I have yet to dislike one. This was a toughie for me. Definitely wheelhouse, but also wavelength. I call those “Two W” problems and this could be a poster puzzle for the 2W struggle.

I got nothing in the NW on the first pass. Zip. Had some coffee, fed the cat. Did some dishes and back to business.

Got a toehold with the NE where I plopped in MALL and PLEA and they turned out to be correct. It STUNS me when all of a sudden after deeming myself worthy of the LOSERS column, my Spidey Sense (or whatever it is for a bit that connects to the constructor’s (or in this case constructors’) wavelength(s) and that short connection opens up the floodgates and I get a bit of what @Rex calls “whoosh.” That’s what happened in the NE. And away I we t in a counterclockwise manner to solve this one.

I had two places that I jumped into the quicksand and dang near refused to get out. The first was at 37A where I looked in my golf bag for a good club and argued with my aging librarian up there who sorts through the grey matter to help translate bits of cleverness and to retrieve all sorts of answers. I say that a “good” club would be in the bag. If I entered the PRO SHOP, I’d be getting ready to drop a bundle on something better than good.

That little section was a bear. I caused at least half the problem with my golf bag, but the clues for ECHO and PH TEST were tough. So, I gave it a REST and tried to meander on in my counterclockwise journey.

While looking fir helpful crosses, I tripped and face planted when I joyously entered CHain Mail instead of CHESS MOVE at 32D. Not only did I enter it, I Was 100% certain of it! And that plus the NW stayed annoyingly white until the very bitterest of bitter ends. ‘Twas waking up to the cleverness of the “basic” assessment and putting in PH TEST that both corrected my error and finished off that piece. But c’mon, the cleverness of the word “shift” with Knight is absolutely genius and someone really needs to use that again intending the “correct” answer to be chain mail.

Thank you constructors for fairly crossing this one. The pop culture and proper names would have sunk me otherwise. Except for ELENA Della Donna. What a powerhouse. I have followed her since her undergrad days.

I’m a sports fan, but I am absolutely crazy about women’s collegiate athletics. Title IX passed when I was in high school. Having only boys in my neighborhood and a passion for games, I grew up playing whatever team sport was happening in the neighborhood. But not being able to play on organized teams with boys and having no competitive opportunities for girls really “frosted my cake” as Gran would have said. Watching women’s athletics grow and thrive has been exciting.

Tough but fair. I agree with @Rex. This is three days in a row of excellent puzzles. This was anything but easy, and a very worthy Saturday.




CDilly52 12:31 PM  

AAAARRRRRGGHHHH! Please forgive my misspelling if Della Donne! I know better. She should ban me from her fan club.

Masked and Anonymous 12:31 PM  

Much feistier than yesterday's puz, at our house. The 3-letter weeject words especially showed no mercy. APU, THA, ARO, IAM, etc. The weejects is where M&A normally goes for safe shelter from solvequest freeze-out.

Only 3 ?-marker clues today, tho. But the puz still ran a solid clinic on how to serve up tough clues. {It's slightly larger than all of New England combined} really pins things down, f'rinstance.

Loosey-goosey conversational entries like ANYIDEA and ITSALLOVER and OHREALLY are nice, but I ain't quite ready to plunge into the UHYEAH universe for sure. This does open up quite a bag of raised-by-wolves colloquial phrases, tho… MMBOY. YOBRO. WAYYYCOOL. GOTTAGIT. AINTNOBIGGIE. THATSANOKNOW. ARRRAVASTMATEY. Opens up a whole new avenue to careen down. Might be kinda cool, actually …

staff weeject pick: THA. Arabic alphabet stuff. Now we are talkin a whole new, feisty ballgame. Bout time, tho … that there Greek alphabet was gettin way to much puztime. M&A was even startin to get comfortable with ZETA comin before ETA.

some fave stuff: PROSHOP. ISTHATAYES. ALLTIMEHIGH. OHREALLY. MALBEC. ACID clue [wanted NAME, for wayyytoolong].

Thanx for gangin up on us, Brooke & Yacob folks. And for the usual Saturday sufferin.

Masked & Anonymo4Us


**gruntz**

ghostoflectricity 12:33 PM  

AYFKM, Rex? This was the hardest Saturday in a long time, by far. From what part of the multiverse did you just drop in???

CT2Napa 12:36 PM  


Had ARP crossing ARU. Googled ARU TRIOGY and found it. Didn't notice author, Oops, wrong one!

GILL I. 1:14 PM  

Typical Saturday tough...Typical Saturday angst....Typical names like Fierce, Della Donne, Desus & Mero, Satyajit and Vikram that made my finger tingle as I dialed up Google. He, by the way, threatened a lawsuit against harassment.
I suppose I can look myself in the mirror and declare that a few unruly hairs are OK. The OK's:
ADDIS ABABBA was my first entry. It was a stop-over on our way to Kenya. Did you now that Ethiopia used to be called Abyssinia? In the 70's it was alive with terrific music, some hippies and colors everywhere. Our cab driver was full of interesting information; his first words were "Welcome to ADDIS ABABBA, our new flower." Would you forget that?
Thank you "new flower" for existing and giving me hope with all the downs.
I got stuck in muck...I pulled out, only to find myself in rut after rut again. Put down the puzzle for a while, come back to it and hope a jiggle of connective brain tissue would spark an answer.
Time will tell?
Other than the proper names I didn't know, I certainly raised an eyebrow here and there. My first (of many) was DOLL at 25A. A DOLL IS AN ACCESSORY?
Queer identity at 44D.....Is that queer as in gay or queer as in peculiar. Will I ever remember ARO?
Didn't really like SEMI PLUG APU accompanied by THA. My facilities repertoire doesn't include TOILET and I have absolutely no clue why bar patrons are called IDED....Good gravy.
I'd love to say that I enjoyed blowing my brains out, but I really didn't. I felt dumb even though I got most of the puzzle.
Did you like anything? you ask...Yes... I liked: ITS ALL OVER.

egsforbreakfast 1:22 PM  

If you needed help with ASS, TOILET and STALL, look no farther than 35A (HINT: SAT). And since we’re talkin’ ASS, what about 29D (TAILS)?

ANYIDEA if a scheme launched in Gotham is A NY IDEA?

Surprised that @Lewis didn’t pick up on the Puzzle Pair of TOILET and PLUG.

I had a harder time with this than with yesterday’s, but loved them both. Thanks, Brooke and Yacob.



bigsteve46 1:23 PM  

Well having just blown by birthday #76, I have made a two major allowances for myself:

1. I no longer feel any obligation to remember ANYBODY'S name. Even if I just met them yesterday, and I can't remember today? I just ask!

2. I allow myself to look up an answer on a Friday or Saturday x-word puzzle if - and only if - I can answer NO to the following question: Is there any legitimate reason why I should know this? If I can honestly answer the guy in the mirror NO! - I look it up. Today 48-Down and 62-Across passed the test.I know "Adele" as a slightly overweight English singer of some sort but certainly not any of her specific songs, and the Seth guy? Fugedaboutit!!

old timer 1:25 PM  

My only lookup was to Google that song to make sure ADELE sang that song -- I had put ADELE in at once, but then the SW corner looked so impossible I was worried. IDAHO saved the day. Who knew it was that big? And GAMUT still seems wrong as a synonym for reach.

I think the ASS was necessary in BADASS a few days ago and also JackASS. Not where it can be replaced by the ASS that Jesus rode into Jerusalem on. And the original word for behind is arse, still used in Britain. So today's clue was there just for the shock value.

My original 1D entry was HINT!! Something dropped intentionally for sure. Once I saw the dupe and figured out ACID, then ADDIS ABABA became obvious, though I never knew it had a meaning.

Never heard NEARLYWEDS before, but it is very apt as clued.

alexscott68 1:39 PM  

The east was fairly easy for a Saturday, but my god, I was all over the place in the west. Had “marshlands” before COASTLINES, “drain” (which is a hole in a sink) before BASIN (which definitely is not), “a mic” before ACID. Finally managed to figure it out in the NW, but could not in the NE get past my mistake of “ace” (asexual) for ARO (aromantic, which I’d never heard of, so I learned something). Hardest Saturday for quite some time for me. But the marquee answers were all good. Glad Rex has had a run of enjoyable puzzles lately, after losing a beloved pet. Good diversions help when you’re grieving.

Joe Dipinto 1:48 PM  

Uh...no.

(Frightfully easy Acrostic tomorrow, I galloped through the whole thing in one fell swoop. Great fun.)

Jennielap 1:48 PM  

Empty Nesters reminded me of my only visit to Mt. Rushmore. In the parking lot we saw an RV with a little sign on it:
Too old to work.
Too young to die.
So we’ve hit the road,
Just Mom and I.

Belated condolences on the loss of your beloved kitty.

bocamp 2:27 PM  

'Shift' as a syn of 'MOVE' led me immediately to CHESS. I could be wrong, but I'm not aware of any use of 'KNIGHT shift' as a CHESS term per se.
____
Peace 🕊 🇺🇦 ~ Compassion ~ Tolerance ~ Kindness to all 🙏

Jeremy 2:33 PM  

Yes, that was 100% my experience today: it felt like a lot of work to get it all straight but my time was faster than my average.

egsforbreakfast 3:06 PM  

To those wondering about whether “Knight shift” is a real CHESSMOVE. It isn’t. It’s a pun ( think night shift) that sounds like it should be a chess move.

JC66 3:27 PM  

@Joe D

You're right about tomorrow's Acrostic; pretty easy but fun.

jberg 3:50 PM  

Mee too for Ace before ARO, draiN before BASIN, and not knowing MALBEC was associated with Bordeaux (so I wrote in Merlot, natch). It did get all sorted, finally, in roughly the length of time consumer by my grandson's soccer game, which I was watching while I solved. His team lost, but the puzzle team (me) won, so that was OK.

It took me some time to get ADDIS ABABA, but the key is not to worry about what it means; they only used that clue because they figured most solvers don't know Amharic. You know it's a world capital, and you know it has ten letters, and that should suffice.

@Nancy, here's my take on the clues you mentioned:

FIX in the sense of held motionless, which could also be PIN, although with a different connotation, I admit. Wisps and puffs can both be applied to little bits of fleecy could in the sky. If a sound echoes in your ears you might also say it rings. As for Parlays, the clue is "parlays, e.g." -- and a parlay is a type of wager. Not being a gambler, I don't know WHAT type--I think maybe it's when you take the winnings of one bet and stake it all on another one -- but I know it exists.

I saw one of those movies in the early 1960s, and I don't know how I knew that they were Ray's APU trilogy, but know it I did. I also don't know how I knew that song was by ADELE -- probably from crosswords.

jberg 3:52 PM  

Oh yes, Vikram SETH. I'd heard of the novel in the clue, but the reason I remember him is an earlier novel, The Golden Gate, written entirely in sonnets. It made a big smash at the time.

Wordler 4:00 PM  

Wordle 490 3/6

⬜⬜🟨🟨⬜
🟩🟨🟩⬜🟨
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

A three is always very satisfying. I have only four 2's and zero 1's in 96 solves.

J.W. 4:08 PM  

This one was as rough for me as yesterday's was buttery-smooth. Didn't get a good foothold until the SE corner, which I felt was by far the easiest quadrant. Lots of stuff outside my wheelhouse: abstract art, wine, sewing, the WNBA, etc. I did see it through to the bitter gold-star end, because it'll take more than a few general knowledge gaps to deny myself the thrill of seeing that streak number go up, but this would nevertheless probably fit my personal definition of a DNF, or at least a DNFC (Did Not Finish Cleanly)—excessive Googling, to the point where I was running straight to it for some clues rather than sitting there trying to work them out by crosses or brute force.

From the sound of it, ADDISABABA has appeared before and will appear again, so it sounds like I'd better file that one away.

Many, many wrong-at-firsts:
—faA instead of DEA
—draIN instead of BASIN (though "drain" fits the definition far better, I'd argue)
—blASTzoNES instead of COASTLINES (I was thinking "global recessions" would be craters, and thought that would be exceptionally morbid/tasteless before realizing a Z was probably not going to work for 6D. BLASTZONES would be a great answer to work into a grid, though.)
—Get aT instead of GAMUT (the clue works, I'd say, but only barely)
—Ace instead of ARO (my bad on that one—the clue clearly says "romantic," not "sexual")
—Aft instead of ASS ... which leads me to my next thought:

I am not as precious about as many here seem to be about seeing a little coarseness in my puzzle here and there, or it being a little rough around the edges, but this puzzle helped me understand a little better why so many blanch at it. When it realized 10D was going to be ASS, my eyes darkened and it cast a distinctly parental "not mad, just disappointed" pall over my mood. I'm okay with the grid being a little PG, and I'm not going to get performatively apoplectic about it, but there's no denying that clues like this and ASSHAT from (I think?) a few weeks ago feel at least somewhat like a failure of imagination.

By the way, what is "PPP?" I understand the basic meaning clearly enough from context, but can't suss out what the acronym actually stands for.

Favorite answer: USURP for "Take badly?" (24D). That one was a joy to have dawn on me.

Anonymous 4:15 PM  

The drain is a sink hole. BASIN is just ridiculous. Terrible cluing at times. I'm decidedly in the group who did not know any of this trivia. Just not my day, I guess. Another joyless slog. After I figured some of these out, there was no whoosh. Just groans because better cluing would have this more doable. UH YEAH. That's how you make a puzzle challenging?

Beezer 4:40 PM  

Busy day so late solve. Loved the puzzle but did NOT think it was easy! My first swipe through yielded very little but still she persisted for 51 minutes (according to puz timer) to eventually conquer the sucker! I also dropped NAMEs instead of ACID because I was so dang sure the city had to start with an N for Novi, Nova, Nuevo. Also, did anyone have ACE for asexual before ARO? No?

ac 4:42 PM  

wonderful puzzle just delightful every day should be this good...

Anonymous 4:43 PM  

Got messed up a bit answering 24A WHYNOT. but the H in right place helped. Clues were great fun although no one says, So you’re in? Do they? You in? is what people say, dont they?

I’m still laughing at BigSteve’s description of ADELE. Best comment of the day….so far.




Anonymous 5:37 PM  

Is it me or do puzzles now favor cutesy over knowledge. They’re fun to be sure but rather than testing us puzzles have become primarily riddles.

Smith 6:23 PM  

Did Sunday puzzle, then realized I hadn't done today's. Like others I started by dropping a name and then abandoned the NW entirely. Solved the rest clockwise and wound up filling the NW from the bottom up.

Enjoyed it a lot, and, yes, had that "hmm this seems to be taking a long time" feeling, only to see in the app a time well under avg. I think perhaps one's sense of how long it takes is partly conditioned by zipping thru early week puzzles.

Breakfast Tester 7:50 PM  


I thought "global recessions" might be referring to craters, such as may be formed by meteor hits. So, with C_AS__I_ES already in place I wrote in CRASH SITES and thought, "oh, that's really grim."

TTrimble 8:13 PM  

Happy to admit my lack of expertise in this matter, but something (from my very amateurish interest in philology from teenage years) was nagging at me with regard to 'THA' being the fourth letter of the Arabic alphabet.

The basic reason for my wondering about this is that Hebrew is another language in the same general language group as Arabic (Semitic languages), and there we have Aleph (or Alef), Bet, Gimel, Dalet, and so on, roughly consonant with the Greek Alpha, Beta, Gamma, Delta, ... Both are correlated with the Phoenician alphabet. So while solving the puzzle, I was thinking that the fourth letter in the Arabic alphabet was probably going to be rendered by a sequence of letters beginning with D. (Was anyone else here thinking along similar lines?)

Now that I follow up on this, I read that there are two alphabetical orders for the Arabic alphabet, called abjad and hija. To boil it down to simplest terms, the abjad corresponds more to the ordering found in the Phoenician alphabet. The hija, which is newer, is a grouping that corresponds more to the similarity of shape of the letters (which are written in a cursive style). If I understand correctly, hija is the current ordering used for phone books and dictionaries, among other things.

I'm completely happy letting that sort of official ordering decide the matter (i.e., the puzzle was irrefutably correct). But I'm also happy to find that my amateurish reasoning wasn't completely stupid. If you want to know, the fourth letter in the abjad sequence is rendered as 'dal' or 'da' or 'dah'.

Anonymous 8:53 PM  

Yeah, there were a few “overly cute” that really should’ve been edited down. I tried to stretch them to fit, and just felt more annoyed. A DOLL is definitely not an accessory, except by perhaps the greatest stretch. And the use of the word “romantic” in the clue, left me *sure* the answer had to be (ACE) for way too long, until I could not make it work. I’m fine if a puzzle is hard or tricky, but this one seemed to have just enough stretched clues to be more annoying than challenging or fun. Still finished. Yay.

Breakfast Tester 8:57 PM  

@TTrimble... I had the same thought. I initially wrote in a D and waited for crosses. That was the last part of the grid to fill for me.

I have a vague knowledge of Hebrew and Arabic letters from play Scrabble (and from crosswords). I thought it might be one of those 3-letter Scrabble words starting with D whose meaning I never bothered to learn, but I only knew 'dal' as a variant of 'dhal' (the food) and 'dah' as a dash in Morse code. I never knew 'tha' (other than in Charlamagne tha God). And despite accepting multiple variations for the spelling of Hebrew and Arabic letters, I'm pretty sure that spelling is not accepted in Scrabble.

TTrimble 9:26 PM  

@Breakfast Tester
THA is new to me (I don't even know Charlamagne tha God). It looks Scottish to me, like a contraction of 'that'. I'll let others tell me how many times that sequence of letters has appeared in the NYTXW, but the more I think about it, the more I feel my nose wrinkling. Guess I'll let it pass. Always happy to learn something new, after all.

Anonymous 9:44 PM  

My assumption was that was the constructing duo’s clue. What made you think it came from Will? Not sure at all what you mean about the “foreign stuff” or why rap artists are somehow excluded from pop culture. Are the geography questions limited to America now? But also American music and culture has limits? Not tracking.

Made in Japan 10:16 PM  

I actually got "Addis Ababa" right away, but it was all downhill from there. I ended up in the SW, where the cluing left me completely stuck. When I saw "tournament stage" I immediately thought of SEMIS, but that didn't fit, and I've never seen SEMI in the singular when referencing a tournament. You might have a semifinal game, but not a semi game. I also thought of IDAHO right away, but I thought IDAHO was much bigger, so I eliminated it. I wasn't completely off base; by land area there are nine states that are bigger than New England before you get to Idaho. Slightly bigger? No. I was left trying to think of countries or islands that might be slightly larger than New England. Guessing Adele is what finally broke the logjam.

Joe Dipinto 11:49 PM  

@Anon 5:37 – no it's not you: the clue is now the star of the show — the cutesier the better, and the more it does to prevent you from getting the answer the better. The answer is only there so you can go back and gasp in admiration at how the clue tricked you. Otherwise the answer is unimportant.

Anonymous 12:50 AM  

Agree

pdplot 12:36 PM  

Once again, I agree completely with @Nancy. We must be on the same wavelength. I made the same errors and got stuck on the same words.

kitshef 6:53 PM  

Slightly frustrating to bump into too many proper names along the way, but overall a fun solve.

kitshef 11:25 AM  

Yes, a very easy acrostic this week. I wonder if it is due to familiarity with the work quoted, which is not normally the case.

thefogman 10:29 AM  

Another good one. That’s at least two in a row! Not easy though, like Rex said it was. I would rate it medium-challenging. Just right for a Saturday. When I see Brooke’s name on the puzzle I know it’s going to be a good one and this one did not disappoint.

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Diana, LIW 3:15 PM  

Of course, of course, after smooth sailing thru this, ADELE crossing SETH did me in in the SW corner. Names names names.

Diana, Lady-in-Waiting for Crosswords

spacecraft 6:53 PM  

EASY?????? I managed the eastern half; in the west I had NOTHING. Nothing at all, a complete blank. DNF by half. Oh wait--I did have ISH. That's it. Three lonesome letters in a sea of white.

At least I got a par in Wordle.

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