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Friday, September 2, 2022

Constructor: Claire Rimkus

Relative difficulty: Medium (it's a name minefield, so who knows!?)


THEME: none 

Word of the Day: Tim REID (60A: Tim of "Sister, Sister") —

 
Timothy Lee Reid (born December 19, 1944) is an American actor, comedian and film director best known for his roles in prime time American television programs, such as Venus Flytrap on WKRP in Cincinnati (1978–82), Marcel "Downtown" Brown on Simon & Simon (1983–87), Ray Campbell on Sister, Sister (1994–99) and William Barnett on That '70s Show (2004–06). Reid starred in a CBS series, Frank's Place, as a professor who inherits a Louisiana restaurant. Reid is the founder and president of Legacy Media Institute, a non-profit organization "dedicated to bringing together leading professionals in the film and television industry, outstanding actors, and young men and women who wish to pursue a career in the entertainment media". (wikipedia)
• • •
 Well this one got off to an interesting start:

 
The actual answer there (which I didn't get until near the very end of the solve) was far less interesting than my glorious wrong one, but luckily there were a lot of other longer answers that were sufficiently sparkly and delightful to give me that much-looked--forward-to Friday Feeling. Instead of starting in the NW (typical), I weirdly ended up opening this puzzle up from the middle, with WELL SELF GILL RASH SAUL providing my first real hold, and then LAUGH TRACK built on top of that (7D: Reel with hilarity?). I moved steadily through the puzzle after that, and largely enjoyed myself, but I will say I found the preponderance of names, particularly pop culture names, somewhat alarming. I got a good workout trying to maneuver my way over under and through those names, but at some point there got to be so many that they began to feel like a problem. 


There are, by my count, ten (10!) short names in this grid. And of course, names appear in puzzles, no biggie, but when you rely so heavily on names, the very clue type gets exhausting. Names are tricky. They can be nice when you recognize them, and frustrating when you don't, and all of that is a normal part of solving, but as with most things, moderation is key. Today's names were mostly clued extremely straightforwardly. [Singer so-and-so], [Actor of "This Show"], etc. It added difficulty at times, which is fine, but it also made the cluing feel arid. When you clog the grid with names, you a. run the risk of making the puzzle feel exclusionary, and b. you diminish the prevalence of truly inventive clues. You squeeze out cleverness and trickery, two of solving's primary enjoyments, and replace it with a trivia test. Now the names today are reasonably diverse, in terms of the fields they come from and the eras they're being pulled from, but still, by the 7th one they were beginning to feel like speed bumps, and by the 10th, potholes. I was very grateful that all the names were handled fairly (to my mind) and none of them caused agonizing delays, but ... I'd probably be happier with about half this many. (To be clear, today's names were: EGO AVA KERI ANDY REID SAUL OSSIE DANNY IDA and Van NESS) (NEMO gets a pass, largely because he was afforded a clever clue) (16A: 2003 search-and-rescue target).

[WHEN IN ROME]

Lots of low-key missteps. None of them as good as VASECTOMY at 1-A, but many still worth noting. I imagined that there were people out there who identified as OMNI-sexual (8D: Prefix with sexual). And I think there are, but the prefix they take is actually PAN-. I don't know what AMBIsexual is, or how it differs from (mere?) BIsexual, hang on ... [furious research montage] ... wow, it's a polyvalent word. It can mean bi- or androgynous *or* unisex (like a garment). Cool, though it seems like using it might result in ambi-...-guity. But Maybe That's The Point. OK, what else? Oh, CHAS! That stopped me cold for a bit, mostly because I thought "Chuck" was meat ... or a verb meaning "toss" (54D: Chuck alternative). Definitely never considered "Charles" until I had 3/4 of the crosses. I thought AVA was ARI despite having seen this AVA before, for sure (32A: Pop singer ___ Max). And it took me a bit to see that the clue on FRAMED could be read as past tense (24A: Set up). I kept thinking "Why ... won't FRAME ... fit!?"

[Sturgill Simpson covering WHEN IN ROME]

I'll close by saying how much I loved bounding from the thornier short name-dense patches into the brighter, longer, more exciting stuff like "REAL MATURE!" (11D: Response to a juvenile joke, perhaps) and "NOT BY A MILE!" (28D: "Far from it!") and HOOKED UP (!) (39D: Got together). Enjoyed the riddle-like quality of the clue on CAR TROUBLE (good answer, good clue) (17A: What pings might indicate). I'm weirdly entertained / impressed by the fact that IOTA and ATOM are not only symmetrical but have identical clues (27D: Tiny bit / 36D: Tiny bit). The answer placement is undoubtedly accidental, but  to notice it and highlight it through cluing, that's the kind of attention to detail that I admire in puzzlecraft. Thanks for reading. See you tomorrow.

Signed, Rex Parker, King of CrossWorld

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119 comments:

Loren Muse Smith 6:07 AM  
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Loren Muse Smith 6:08 AM  

Rex – yeah, I noticed all the names; most were gettable, but EGO gave me a fit.

Speaking of the northwest, “Red October” has the same number of letters as CAR TROUBLE.

PET TRAINER surprised me, but I’ve seen enough TikTok and YouTube footage of various non-dog pets doing remarkable things, so, ok. Those cats are sell-outs and pariahs in the feline community.

“Noon” before DAWN. I guess noon is when squinty-eyed cowboys draw. DAWN is when Burr and Hamilton duel. (Nice that DAWN crosses ACT 1. I see what you did there, Claire.)

“Landing spot for a bee” – the passenger seat of my sister’s car parked at Eddie’s Diner in Charlotte (with the windows cracked) where he waited for me to sit down and then got on with his business. Actually, there were two, and they tag-teamed me.

HOOKED UP has come to mean one thing, and one thing only. If you meet up at booth in Denny’s, fine. If you HOOK UP at a booth Denny’s, you’re the lead story on the six o’clock news.

RASH and “reckless” – As I get older, I’m a carefuller and carefuller driver. Sitting up, hunched over the wheel, mouth open. . . but, hey, being a reck driver means I’m wreckless. Ba dum tss.

I must be going to all the wrong conferences ‘cause I’d hardly call the canvas tote I receive SWAG. Funny how, even though I take a superior and more-pocketed backpack, I’m powerless not to commit to using that damn tote like the other 98% of the people. My daughter got a cheap little CSU vet school backpack during all the graduation festivities, and she tossed it aside. Now That’s one cool chick. I couldn’t help myself and used it. And then I was beyond thrilled when she said I could have it.

Got a kick out of SPRAY TAN crossing GYM RAT. I’d give a man like that a second glance only to do an inner eyeroll and be all judgy. I imagine his longish hair would be blown back, and his shorts would be just a tad too short. Shudder. Now show me a guy walking down the street toting an OED, and I’ma follow him to see whassup. Converted to sapiophilia in 10th grade after I spent a year one afternoon with Herbie R, star football hunk with the personality of a potato peeler.

Anonymous 6:40 AM  

i had to look up sapiophile. no denny's date for me (i?) and lms. wawa horn.

Anonymous 6:53 AM  

I think you have to read Ovid’s *Fasti* every six months or so to remember those words with Latin roots.

Alex 6:56 AM  

The ONLY name I recognized was Danny Ocean, but the crosses were fair on all of the other names and made them gettable. Notwithstanding all of the names, a faster solve for me than usual for a Friday. Loved all of the longer answers. Great puzzle.

OffTheGrid 7:01 AM  

As is usually the case on Fri and Sat I couldn't seem to get going in the NW. Had sunkenship for pings clue. "Response to a juvenile joke, perhaps" gave me fits. I was solidly in the mind of jokes kids tell instead of immaturity. Reminded me of a joke my son brought home from school. "Why couldn't they play card games on the ark?..................Because Noah sat on the deck.

Fun solve. Loved it.

Son Volt 7:03 AM  

I think NAMED NAMES is an apt revealer here - the people trivia is exhausting as the big guy points out. Some decent longs - REAL MATURE, WHEN IN ROME but a few real flat ones too especially 1a and the central spanner. I’d rather see IDI in a grid than CAR TROUBLE. HOOKED UP is only one thing if you’ve had college aged kids in the last 10 years.

The obscure SNL cast members need to stop. Nice to see Venus Flytrap.

The great Mike NESS

The trivia drags this one down.

kitshef 7:10 AM  

Felt like about a million unknown names in this thing, but it turns out there were only six: KERI, EGO, REID, SAUL, IDA, NESS. This is the least desirable way to add difficulty to a puzzle.

Still finished pretty fast, as all the long entries were familiar.

CAR TROUBLE: Mine has a broken antenna, a hatch that is duct-taped shut, a gas tank that only holds three gallons, and a problem where every few months the rear-view mirror falls off. Otherwise, it is a great car.

Anonymous 7:14 AM  

This one rolled off the tongue as easily as 45's lies. I had estate tax for law, but changed it quickly while reminding myself how I needed, like 45 and father, to set a good example to the nation and take action to avoid/evade it and any other imposts. At 10 minutes this was a very fast Friday for me.

Joke of the day: isn't it ironic that I'm having to prove to a machine that I am not a robot?

SouthsideJohnny 7:52 AM  

Lots of (mostly) actors and actresses, which Rex opined on quite nicely. Not a deal-breaker, but it does wear on you after a while. The rest of it is pretty much what you would want from a Friday-level difficulty puz, so good job by the constructor.

The clue for ASTERS seemed a touch unfair. It would seem like there are pretty much an endless number of flowers that would attract butterflies - maybe a gardening enthusiast can chime in - is (are) there something special about ASTERS ?

Anonymous 7:57 AM  

Can someone explain CARTROUBLE? Pings??

Anonymous 7:59 AM  

@Son Volt: The SNL names won't stop because there's such a big variety and lots of unusual ones. I liked seeing one of them in place of the stale old clues for EGO. Idea for non-SNL-watching puzzlers: At the start of each new season, check out the cast names. EGO (pronounced "eggo") Nwodim is, by the way, hilarious. Keep an eye on her career.

@Loren Muse Smith: Thanks for the introduction to the word sapiophilie. I am one also and never knew it. Your SPRAY TAN/GYM RAT comment made me LOL. Also agreed with, and chuckled over, your statement on HOOKED UP.

Rex: Almost did a coffee spit-take with your first answer to 1A.

I really enjoyed this puzzle, despite the boatload of names, especially CAR TROUBLE (superb!), NOT BY A MILE, NAMED NAMES, WHEN IN ROME, and the comments so far, which also seem unusually clever. A nice start to the Labor Day weekend.

Conrad 8:01 AM  


My initial take on 1A was vacATions, because families plan vacations, right? But that didn't survive my initial and woefully incorrect take on the Danish shoes in 1D, uggs. So I abandoned the NW and worked clockwise from the NE.

As others have noted, there were a lot of names but fairly crossed so I didn't mind as much as I often do. I had a bit of indecision at 38A deciding whether the procrastinator waited until the last MINUTE or Moment.

Once I worked my way back into the NW, the only hang-up happened because I know that a "ping" in a car engine is often caused by fuel with too low an octane rating. So my 17A was gAs TROUBLE.

I'm going to remember OFL's remark about putting a lot of names in a puzzle, "You squeeze out cleverness and trickery, two of solving's primary enjoyments, and replace it with a trivia test."

Irene 8:08 AM  

I glanced at the clues, saw all the names and thought, oh oh: Here's a Friday I'm not going to finish. But once I got a foothold with MEIN I proceeded slowly and evenly through the rest of the puzzle. Delightful start to the day.

Lewis 8:15 AM  

Highly unusual-for-me Friday solve. The short story: Sat down, opened puzzle, filled in dribs here, drabs there, then two longer answers came with blissful pings, both followed by splat fills; next came a sprint to the finish, followed by “What just happened?”

My favorite answers were REAL MATURE and NOT BY A MILE. The clue that misdirected me most was [Chuck alternative] which had me thinking meat (Hi, @Rex!). I chuckled when that massive iron lung I was picturing with [Breathing apparatus] morphed into a humble GILL. Sweet to see a five-letter semornilap (PARTS) and a pair of lovely palindromes (AVA, PEEP). And I did notice that NAKED crosses HOOKED UP (I know, real mature).

This was for me a whoosh down the sliding board and had me whee-ing like a kid. Some speedy solves are boring and you’re glad they’re over. Not this one, which left me happy and high, a giddy-up solve. A hoot of a way to start the day. Thank you so much for this, Claire!

Anonymous 8:16 AM  

@Anonymous 7:57 AM: The ASTER clue seemed off to me too. In one of my flower beds there are asters, veronica, delphiniums, cardinal flowers, coneflowers, penstemon, and dahlias. I have never noticed a bee or butterfly on the asters and am thinking of removing them in favor of something more to the insects' liking. All of the others, including the dahlias with open centers, attract loads of bees and butterflies, although fewer butterflies than in years past. A disturbing omen.

Phillyrad1999 8:29 AM  

Only trouble was I wanted wound to be a noun instead of a verb. Overall it felt more like a Wednesday.

NYDenizen 8:30 AM  

Wordle 440 3/6*

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The 3 l chose was one of more than 10 options - l stopped looking for more, figuring that I might hit my first 6 today! But sometimes luck *does* beat skill (except on the golf course, for one!).
Today’s puzzle, with its painful plethora of people, was particularly poignant for me as just yesterday l received my 15th straight NYT puzzle rejection!! :(( But l get some comfort from being reminded that luck can beat skill.

Anonymous 8:30 AM  

Good writeup,Rex. Thanks. Too many recently hot proper names fit this boomer, but the long answers were nicely done.

Anonymous 8:33 AM  

Amy: liked it. Neat that DAWN (duel time) intersects when Burr meets Ham in Hamilton.

B Right There 8:43 AM  

First impression: Ugh. Those names. Yes, most were gettable but it was sheer luck for me that I got the E at OSSIE x KERI; and the N at AMMAN x NESS made me pause (thought maybe L?). Which, I feel bad about not remembering NESS. I used to watch that show religiously! What a concept, especially for its time!

So I started with a total blank NW. No idea on the shoe brand and seriously considered abortions at 1A. Finally got an IOTA of traction with HAUT and ELSE over on the east coast, but at 11D I kept wanting something more Three Stooges-like, like nyucknyuck instead of REALMATURE. Got NIECE on a guess since it fit the spaces. And picked up PETAL and a few other things here and there. But generally floundered around with lots of white space and every time I got one or two words in, I hit those potholes OFL mentioned.
Had teamedUP before HOOKEDUP, and NOTinAMILE before BYAMILE so GABON was hard to see.

Totally agree with @LMS on SWAG that the expos I attend give out mainly those handy tote bags. I have enough to bag up a Superbowl Party or Thanksgiving grocery shopping event! But SWAG, to me, needs to have some bling, or at least higher value than a cloth bag. Also agree that I was thinking 17A’s Ping would be a sonar reference (Red October quote: “Give me a ping, Vasili. One ping only.”). Also had NOON before DAWN, and also fell for the Chuck dilemma, thinking it might even have to do something with the Chuck on a drill. This last could be because I assembled a dresser yesterday and constantly had to adjust the chuck so as not to strip out holes.

@ Son Volt, well, I don’t have kids of any age in college so, though I know that HOOKEDUP often means the sex thing, I still think it can mean to make a connection. Like “I can HOOK you UP with a cheap mechanic to see what CARTROUBLE that PING is.”

In general, at first pass, I thought it would be hard; didn’t like the heavy PPP. But, the more I review the puzzle, the more it is growing on me. In retrospect, I wish it had taken longer. Was actually amazed to see that I got in well under average Friday time for me. Maybe my app timer is glitching?

JD 8:48 AM  

Great cluing again (favorite was for Estate Law), but solving experience in the NW culminated with this nanosecond confusion, "Cart Rouble! That's all it can be!"

As for Aster, other 5-letter butterfly attractors include Phlox, Sedum, Penta, Canna (so annoyed I looked it up). But letterwise, Aster says pick me.

@Gill, your second appearance this year. Way to go.

Comedy Film made me feel smart for a while as I smirked at the NYT's made up category.

Ambisexual, how many choices are there? Ava Max, "revealed that she had been attracted to women in the past but has chosen to not label her sexuality, explaining that she appreciated "when it's about who you are as a person." I looked her up.

pabloinnh 9:05 AM  

I don't mind trivia in a puzzle, unless it's based on pop culture, which this is, and I don't know it, which I didn't. Got everything from crosses eventually, but I mean, really.

Had a Charles in my high school class who went by CHAS, so that was easy. No ROOS today but we do have a GILL, which shows up about as often as Pablo.

I'm with LMS on the sapiophile aspect of attraction, as one of the things that drew me to my now wife was her vocabulary. I gave her an ASTER on our very first date, which I picked as we were walking along to a cookout. That was on October 15, 1966, and I have tried to find an ASTER on every anniversary of that day since, usually successfully.

Like most here, I thought there were some really nice longer answers, but jeez, CR, I wish you Could've Removed about half the names. Thanks for a fair amount of fun.

Mike in Bed-Stuy 9:09 AM  

@Southside Johnny 7:52 AM - While a list of flowers that attract butterflies may include 20 to 30 entries, ASTER is one of the most familiar. That plus crosses equals fair clue.

Smith 9:10 AM  

So there I am thinking that "nwodim" is perhaps some sort of neo-noun, maybe like eponym, then tried reverse reading it (midown?) and although I got the answer easily enough I still had No. Idea. What. It. Meant. Oh, uh huh, another name. Well, it's been, um, decades since I watched SNL. Sorry, Nwodim.

FWIW ecstatic has the same number of letters as INHEAVEN, but HAUT took care of that quickly.

CART... CART... oh, CAR...

Also, when I had a garden, no self-respecting bee would land on or target a PETAL. They're going for the good stuff. But pistil didn't fit.

Not sure why but overall this seemed easy. The long downs kinda popped in there. Pleasant Friday. And happy Labor Day weekend to those who celebrate!

Mike in Bed-Stuy 9:10 AM  

@Anonymous 7:57 AM - Little ding-ding-ding alarms that go off on your dashboard when your engine overheats or whatever.

Mike in Bed-Stuy 9:11 AM  

@Lewis 8:15 AM - Agreed and well put

Nancy 9:14 AM  

Many too many names (what a ridiculous way to clue EGO, for example, and why would anyone do that?) but happily they were all fairly crossed. And therefore I NAMED NAMES up the wazoo without having the slightest idea who most of these people and imaginary people (SAUL) actually were.

But there were some lovely things in the puzzle too. Great clue/answers for CLOSE GAMES (14A); LAUGH TRACK (7D) and WHEN IN ROME (61A). I liked the specificity of the (very fair) clues for AT THE LAST MINUTE; NOT BY A MILE; and REAL MATURE.

Only writeovers: 1) I thought the animal control person would be a PEsT-something-or-other and 2) I thought the shoe brand was ECkO and therefore couldn't figure out what the kART thing that pings is. Yes, once again I had CAR TROUBLE in the NYT crossword puzzle. So what else is new?

There was more I liked here than didn't and I found it a pretty enjoyable puzzle.

pmdm 9:17 AM  

Astute write-up, which did not make me enjoy this PPP fest at all. I do enjoy struggling with late week clues, but not if they involve trivia or esoteric knowledge. So this puzzle gets a big ugh from me. If you enjoyed it, good for you. But this stuff is not aimed at me.

Diego 9:18 AM  

Difficulty-wise, I thought it was EZ, my best Friday ever! Didn’t notice all the little names much since I grokked the longer answers quickly, including estate planning (the E from Ecco helped.). Clearly I was on Claire’s wave length. I found the puzzle fresh and flowing and look forward to more from this constructor. BTW, I am not in the same league as most regulars here, find most days harder than most of you. For instance, yesterday’s numbers game was a grind for me, in more ways than one.

Anonymous 9:26 AM  

@Nancy: Why is using the first name of an actress/comedian who has been in movies and television shows and has been on a well known weekly TV show for four years a "ridiculous way to clue EGO?" Because this isn't a show you watch? Because you don't like the name EGO? I think your comment was kind of rude, TBH.

Mike in Bed-Stuy 9:26 AM  

As for names: First, acrosses—Suspected IRAN; finding NEMO was work but fun; did not know AVA but: crosses; did not know what Libreville was the capital of off the top of my head, but suspected it was a former French colony in Africa, plus crosses equals no biggie; got KERI via crosses; had a huge fanboy (using the descriptor "boy" advisedly, at age 61) crush on ANDY Samberg; easy enough to guess AMMAN from "Jordan"; got REID from crosses, no biggie. Next, downs—Suspected ECCO, confirmed via crosses; got EGO from crosses; knew SAUL; instantly grokked CHAS; you are not allowed not to know OSSIE Davis; got IDA via crosses; half knew DANNY Ocean and half by the time I got there it was all but filled in via crosses; if I didn't know MOMA I would expect my NY native card *and* my gay card would be revoked; sort of dimly know ANDY Ness, but again, he was all but filled in via crosses by the time I got there.

Chuck Taylor 9:28 AM  

Chuck alternative could also have been the clue for 1D ECCO. That is if you think of Chuck as the Converse shoe of that name.

Anonymous 9:29 AM  

I think this refers to your car engine making a pinging sound which, if I remember correctly, is predetonation which has various causes and can lead to serious problems.

Anonymous 9:36 AM  

Noticed the names but barely. Knew some, knew some with a cross or two. Easy enough that they didn't detract from the experience.

The Joker 9:37 AM  

Be careful out there. Don't get a RASH after you've HOOKEDUP.

Carola 9:38 AM  

A joyful solve, with the wealth of creative clues and fine long answers, but for me, too, the pile-up of NAMES took some of the shine off.

@OffTheGrid 7:01 - Thanks for the laugh. Here's one back: Where do kings keep their armies? In their sleevies.

Liveprof 9:40 AM  

LMS -- I look forward to sharing your very last sentence far and wide, i.e., with the three or four people I know. Very funny.

Anonymous 9:48 AM  

Pings are specifically engine trouble. Owing to the fact that engine trouble is a legitimate and common phrase, Rex's assessment that the clue and answer are both good, is, not surprisingly, off the mark.

If anyone cares' the Brits don't say ping, they say pink. As in the engine is pinking. (ask me why octane as it's commonly used in casual car convo is wrong as well)

RooMonster 9:49 AM  

Hey All !
My 'Chuck alternative' was VANS, you know, the inferior shoe to Converse Chuck Taylor's. 😁

Nice puz, stuck in each section, but still finished in 25 1/2 minutes. As often happens, even though unsure why, bottom half filled first, then NE, NW. Weird. Is it maybe psychological to solve that way? Or is my brain just silly? (Bet the over.)

Liked all the crossing Longs. Tough to fill cleanly, so I give a pass to the names.

Amazingly enough, I put IOTA in 27D, and it was actually correct! Once I got the second same clue, I thought for sure IOTA would be the other one.

LGBT-ACLU, word-PEEP, theiR-OWNER, NeiCE-NIECE (every time), nooN-DAWN, Adam-ANDY (every time also, unsure why), think that's it.

Wound=SNAKED. Not seeing it. Help? Is it Wound pronounced like ROUND, or Wound pronounced like MOONED?

One F
RooMonster
DarrinV

Jim mcdougall 9:55 AM  

Lately I have been anxious to finish the puzzle so I can move to the reveal to see if I got everything correct, and in some cases, why it is correct..Also can't wait to see Sharp Rex's clever take on the puzzle as well as Amusing Loren's wordSmithing...Thanks..happy long weekend🤣

Z 10:00 AM  

While I agree with everything Rex said about PPP, having written pretty much exactly what he wrote about wordplay > trivia about a Zedgillion times, this puzzle just isn’t particularly name heavy. I counted twice just to make sure and this comes in at 19 of 72, 26%, which is just NYTX standard. Puzzles are going to be 27% + or - 5% pretty consistently. We only typically get significant complaints at 33% or above. My suspicion is that the inherent inclusionary/exclusionary nature of PPP (or as we normally refer to it, wheelhouse vs outhouse) hit Rex at an unusually high rate today, hence the write-up. But the PPP simply is not atypical today.

The PPP Count
(That’s Pop Culture, Product Names, and other Proper nouns for the noobs/newbs around here)

IRAN
NEMO
AVA
GABON
KERI
ANDY
ACT I (Hamilton reference - Seriously, the first three letters should be easy and the fourth is 50-50 without knowing anything about Hamilton)
AMMAN
REID
ACLU

ECCO
EGO
SAUL
OSSIE
NIECE (Emma/Julia Roberts clue)
DANNY
MOMA
Van NESS
IDA
(Didn’t include CHAS because it’s not clued as a person, just a generalized nickname)

I suppose you can complain that 6 of the 19 are in that tinyish SE corner, but that’s it for legitimate PPP complaints about this puzzle. Otherwise, no I’m not getting offa your lawn. And, seriously here, two of the 19 are sussable even if you have zero knowledge of the PPP in the clue.

Anywhoo….

@LMS - 🤣😂🤣😂🤣 - Oh to make the 6 O’Clock News.

I have no idea if ASTERS attract butterflies, but the interwebs sez they do. Isn’t the whole evolutionary point of flowering to be attractive to pollinators? Seems like flowering is more about HOOKing UP than meeting up. Which raises the question of why we don’t call pollination “deflowering.”

@JD - how many choices are there? The answer has always been “yes” we are just getting less Victorian about talking about it. And by “we” I mean the youngs.

BTW - 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽 on the puzzle.

GILL I. 10:00 AM  

The day I complete a puzzle that doesn't have a single proper name, I will have it framed. Take note, constructors...the game is on.
This took forever and a night to complete. I dreamed of NAMES. Nightmares ensued.
So this morning I decided to start from the bottom..Shucky darns...more names. I did have ACT I at 53A and was able to see CHAS (I thought it should be CHAz). There is no SPRAY TAN that starts with Z. I paused and wondered how one goes from Charles to Chuck to CHAS. Prince Chuck from Wales informed the queen he's a Chucky Cheese head of the realm and it's time for her to step down.
At least I can now party with @Roo and @Pablo (pablito)...I like these names.
I saw SAUL and I clapped. Loved "Better Call Saul." Bob Odenkirk is a very smart man and he deserves a LAUGH TRACK award for having a wonderful sense of humor. I had to look up EGO..It runneth over. The rest were guesses. A hit here... a miss there.
Did anyone else wonder what side dish might contain pastrami?

Anonymous 10:01 AM  

Brooklyn Mike,
No. Anon 9:29 is right. Pinging is a form of improper air/fuel detonation in an internal combustion engine ( four strokes obviously). It's also called knocking, ( and I noted above, pinking). 9:29 is close regarding predetonation but preignition is actually a separate failing though it is often followed by knocking ( pinging).

TJS 10:14 AM  

Friday???This was a Friday? I've been excusing many of theses puzzles lately with "wheelhouse" effect, but this dumbing down is getting ridiculous.

Tom T 10:18 AM  

I seem to be on some kind of unexpected Friday roll. Not only have I (according to the statistics on my computer) solved 9 Fridays in a row, but two of the last 4 have been breezy-easy. Today's was (again, according to the stats) 2 seconds behind my personal best--which was three weeks ago, 8-12. It went so quickly, faster than the Wednesday or Thursday this week, that I wasn't even aware of the high name count.

The HOOKED UP at Denny's was @LMS gold, and paired nicely with @Lewis' sNAKED crossing HOOKED UP.

Agree about the un-SWAG-giness of a tote, but having worked with a number of not-for-profits on "gala" events, SWAG is the generic term for the crap thrown in those bags.

bocamp 10:20 AM  

Thx, Claire; excellent trip. HOOKED it UP AT THE LAST MINUTE! :)

Med.

Totally shut out in the NW to start with.

Very easy from the NE down the East Coast.

Gradually SNAKED my way around to the SW and up the West Coast to finish a very difficult NW.

Had lAcES before GAMES, which caused big TROUBLE. Finally got it worked out and all ended WELL.

Loved the ending of Better Call SAUL.

Watched the original 'Ocean's Eleven' last week.

Good Fri. morn exercise; liked it a lot! :)

@GILL I. (10:00 AM)

Yes, I did! 😂
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Joseph Michael 10:21 AM  

Quite a nice puzzle for a Friday morning. Yes, there were a lot of NAMES. but most were fairly crossed.

Really enjoyed the constructor’s sense of humor, especially REAL MATURE, WHEN IN ROME, and LAUGH TRACK. Also liked HOOKED UP and NOT BY A MILE.

Can you still get SPRAY TANS when you’re doing TIME? Asking for a Former Guy.

Diane Joan 10:24 AM  

@LMS I enjoyed your discussion about the swag! I’m still using said items that my daughters received through high school and college; especially the things they didn’t give a second look. Hey they’re perfectly good items!
Hahaha. That’s why my younger daughter says to me, “Ok Boomer…”!

It’s a beautiful day in NJ today to start off the long weekend. Enjoy it everyone!

Tom T 10:28 AM  

I'm on a Friday roll--8/12/22 was a personal best and today was only 2 seconds behind that (according to the stats that the nyt keeps for my viewing pleasure). Went faster than either Wednesday or Thursday this week, so fast I wasn't aware of the names issue.

The Denny's HOOK UP comment is @LMS gold, and nicely paired with @Lewis' sNAKED crossing HOOKED UP.

pmdm 10:36 AM  

Z's comment provoked me to think about the puzzle, and here's what I come up with.

Could it be that the non-themed harder puzzles include less PPP than the early week puzzles? I don't know, but I am a bit surprised that Z counting only the normal percentage of PPP in today's puzzle. I put a dash by the clues I suspect I will look up, and today's puzzle seems to have had more than usual for a Friday. It doesn't surprise me that some solvers like this type of puzzle. But to each his own, and you have to expect that some days you get what you like, and other days you don't.

I like that others take the time to count these types of clues. Thank you. But I still prefer puzzles with hard wordplay and less PPP, even if they are more difficult for me to solve.

JC66 10:39 AM  

Hey @Roo

Think WOUND rhyming with round.

Whatsername 10:42 AM  

A thoroughly enjoyable Friday although I agree with Rex, somewhat tarnished by the proper names and trivia. Lovely cluing, especially in that top section. A few I noted were NEMO, OWNER and CLOSE GAMES – where I had CLOSE RACES for a long time. Other missteps were COMEDY FILM before LAUGH TRACK, FINED before CITED, HOMO before AMBI which I’ve only heard expressed as just BI), NOON before DAWN and BELLY LAUGH before REAL MATURE which was a terrific entry.

The clue for WELL WELL WELL made me think of classic Gomer Pyle. Surprise surprise surprise!

Labor Day: to honor and recognize the American labor movement and the contributions of laborers to the development and achievements of the United States. The three-day weekend it falls on is called Labor Day Weekend. (Wikipedia) Wishing all a safe and pleasant one.

Anonymous 10:45 AM  

I guessed AMMOsexual.

Anonymous 10:51 AM  

There’s a great documentary called Mighty Ira: A Civil Liberties Story about Ira Glasser and the ACLU from when it was a real civil liberties organization.

Diego 10:56 AM  

Thank you Zed at 10:00!
I was surprised RP bemoaned the plethora of PPP. I really didn’t notice the names; sure, there were some unknowns to me but they were easily inferred by the crosses. The longs provided more than enough sparkle for this pleasant Friday.

Not a mechanic 10:57 AM  

There seem to be two senses of ping related to automobiles. The ping associated with fuel combustion, described by others, and the warning pings ubiquitous in modern cars. The latter can mean "you're not buckled", your trunk is ajar (insert own joke here), your engine and tires are about to explode, and many other things. All are CARTROUBLE of some sort.

Back in the day it was easy to disable the annoying buzzers and beeps. Not any more.

Another Anon 11:03 AM  

@Anonymous 10:51. Curious but really interested.... what is the ACLU now?

jae 11:04 AM  

Easy. No real problems with this one and I’m probably one puzzle away from remembering Nwodim’s first name. Plenty of sparkle, liked it a bunch!

Hack mechanic 11:05 AM  

Doesn't really exist anymore since engines have computer controlled ignition timing & knock sensors.
As soon as pinging is detected the ECM retards the timing till it stops.

beverly c 11:14 AM  

I also though “Sheesh, lots of names!” But I was wrong. Thanks @Zed.
Since I didn’t know them, @Mike-in-Bed-Stuy summed up my experience. Not peak.
Good longs except for 1A, where I preferred Rex's first idea.
According to the app I finished in about half my usual Friday time. I got a splat fill in the SE to start which probably contributed.
Can’t say Denny's is my first choice for hook-up location. Hammocks aren’t great either.

Hack mechanic 11:15 AM  

Way to many names. Naticked at "Samberg of Brooklyn nine nine" & "Ocean of Oceans Eleven"
( went with Anny & Nanny)
Also "Tim of Sister Sister,"
no clue, ended up with Reir & Hoover up.
Spoiled the whole thing for me.

Beezer 11:15 AM  

This had to be in my wheelhouse because it took ten minutes less than my average time. At one point I suspected the commentariat would have things to say about that but the fact the crosses were fair certainly helped.

Did anyone else read 15D as “identiFy”? Just me? I’m not sure how I actually saw “Nonvegan” the other day instead of “Norwegian.”

@Southside, even though I do flower gardening I also did not know asters particularly attract butterflies. Like @Zed I looked it up post-solve. My excuse (as a gardener) is that by the time late summer rolls around and asters start blooming I’ve used up my interest in patrolling the flowers I grow so asters have never been on my “want to grow” list. This laziness irks me because asters are lovely flowers…if only someone else would take of them…

@Nancy, weird…I ALSO thought the Danish brand was ECkO, and in fact, toyed with the idea of EkkO but decided THAT did not fit into my shoe store recollections. Maybe we were both thinking of Dansko? Speaking of which…if you have a high arch in your foot, the top of Dansko slip ons will cut into the top of your foot until you want to cry like a baby. Why do I know this? Yeah, I bought a pair once and thought they would eventually” stretch on top.

Anonymous 11:16 AM  

Yes! Thank you for the theme identification!

Anonymous 11:22 AM  

@7:57

I doubt that any current CAR has TROUBLE that results in a PING: that's caused by either too low octane gas (whether octane is an accurate number or not), or the advance in the distributor is off. cars today all run on 87 gas, so that doesn't matter (if you've got a super-duper street racer, you'd never, ever put 87 in the tank). and I'll bet 99.44% of cars today have EFI, so no PINGs there. PING is specifically a misfire in the cylinder, usually a pre-ignition. back when cars had rotary distributors and points, the advance could get out of whack, and would need adjustment. EFI, 99.44% of the time when it's working, doesn't do that.

Joe Dipinto 11:31 AM  

REAL MATURE is "more exciting stuff"? lol

This puzzle didn't seem any more name-dense than usual to me. But I guess if you think it is, you can take NAMED NAMES to be a revealer of sorts.

Anonymous 11:35 AM  

Easy for me because I'm smarter than any of you. Just thought you should know that for some reason or other.

In any case. I post here every day because I'm too dumb to use my time productively.

Yours, Dopy Old Opi

Anonymous 11:41 AM  

Another Anon,
You're kidding, right? The ACLU is a withered husk of what it once was. worse actually, they're the antithesis of what they were. They are actually fighting AGAINST some folks --i.e., the disfavored politically--They are simply woke grifters at this point.

Whatsername 11:51 AM  

Still a rank amateur compared to @Nancy and @Joe, but reached my 50th Phreagle today. Ta da! 🥳

Phrazle 273: 2/6
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🟩 🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩 🟩🟩 🟩🟩🟩🟩

David Fabish 11:52 AM  

@Anonymous (7:57am): A car "PINGS" when the fuel mixture or ignition is wrong, and it can be damaging to the engine. It literally makes a pinging sound.

And "SINS ATOP AVA" gave ME my spit-take for the day... :)

Mike in Bed-Stuy 11:53 AM  

@Anonymous 10:01 AM - Huh. Learned something new!

jberg 12:00 PM  

Sheesh, Rex, I can see how you'd like vasectomy as an answer, but since it's a Friday you gotta think of alternate senses of family planning. Unfortunately, I just thought of ESTATEs, which was too short, and needed the L go get LAW. Great clue.

@Loren, the clue says Expo, not Convention -- some kind of trade show, where all the merchants have little giveaways.

@Roo, rhymes with round. A verb (past tense) for how a snake moves; cf. sidewinder.

I was looking for a country for the Jordan Towers (dumb, I know). And the ANDY/DANNY cross was unknown to me, but D seemed more plausible than nANNY OCEAN.

Isn't Ekco the brand of knives that are sold on late-night TV? I used to make that mistake, but once I'd bought my second pair of the shoes I had it sorted.

Mary Jo 12:07 PM  

11:41 is correct. The ACLU now cares about civil liberties for certain classes of Americans rather than for all Americans. If you’re looking to donate, the best civil liberties organization these days is FIRE: The Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression, formerly named The Foundation for Individual Rights in Education.

Penna Resident 12:12 PM  

i often disagree with the complaints, and rarely have negative feelings on fri/sat, but the actress/singer names made this less fun. the overall PPP count may not have been technically higher but not all PPP is the same. names of countries are more universal than specific people names. its not insulting to criticize the EGO clue. i like her and she has every right to be recognized, but crosswords are not awards and if you have a choice of a non-name clue its always better instead of a binary know it or not. nancy was not dissing the legitimacy of the person. even the innocent word NIECE had to bring in 2 actresses. yeah, it was easy to get, but why bring in more actresses when there were already too many, including 2 crossing at a vowel. no naticks (andy/danny is obvious) but i would rather have to think through and figure out a misdirect than just be lucky or not.

Anonymous 12:19 PM  

@Anon 11:22 AM All BMWs, all Mercedes, most Lexus models run on premium, and I quit there. I'm willing to bet that all premium cars run on premium gas.

JD 1:09 PM  

@Zed, I looked it up (which I should've), " having, showing, or involving feelings of sexual attraction for both sexes." Isn't that what bisexual means?

Anonymous 1:12 PM  

Egs for Breakfast here. Commenting via iPhone, which won’t let me use my Google profile.

When Johnny wanted to make sure that his sidekick had a mic on, he’d tell the assistant to HOOKEDUP. Reluctant to do so, the assistant would often respond NOTED.

Can’t say the puzzle left me INHEAVEN like @Lewis, but I thought it was pretty darn good. Thanks, Claire Rimkus.

Unknown 1:13 PM  

I had LOST for the longest time (instead of TORN), which meant that the NW corner was a bit of a bear for me . . . . .

While I rarely agree with rex's takes on a puz, today we were on the same wavelength: so many pop culture references really took some joy out of what was otherwise a mighty fine puz. Although I did find the NEMO clue kind of clever.

Just started watching Better Call Saul (I avoided it for years, since how could it be better that Breaking Bad, right?) and to my surprise am enjoying it. I think he was recently interviewed by Teri Gross.

Anonymous 1:13 PM  

@Another Anon- If you’re really interested, watch Mighty Ira, the Glasser documentary. Rent it for three bucks on Apple or Prime.

Masked and Anonymous 1:15 PM  

yep. This FriPuz definitely NAMED some NAMES. Half the six weejects were names: EGO, AVA, IDA. Knew EGO, but not the other two. Still, a pretty neat solvequest, for a themeless.

Had A??? for the 8-D {Prefix with sexual}, and immediately surmised it was an M&A no-know. But, then lost many precious nanoseconds, tryin to come up with "interestin" A???-sexual possibilities. The M&A list included:
* AFRO-sexual. Attracted to really bushy hair?
* AMMO-sexual. Firin off real potent rounds in the sack? [An @Anon person also came up with this one, I noticed.]
* ARGO-sexual. Really turned on by golden fleeces?
* AGRI-sexual. Exceptionally potent in the hay?
* ATTA-sexual. Encouraged by praise for one's weird but enthusiastic techniques?
* ANTI-sexual. M&A thought maybe this was the actual puz's answer, for a while. Possible reaction to @Muse darlin's gettin HOOKEDUP at Denny's proposal? [har]
* ASAP-sexual. Tendin to run premature?
* ALTO-sexual. Singin loud notes, upon climax? See also ARIA-sexual.
* ALOE-sexual. Performance enhanced by calling out Vera's name?
* ACDC-sexual. yep. works.

TMI? yeah, thought so …

staff weeject pick: EGO. A real word, but with a name clue. Primo sadistic cluin touch. Also, real good SNL comedian/actress.

Some of the many faves, at our house: EGO. NOTBYAMILE. WHENINROME. REALMATURE. GYMRAT. HOOKEDUP. @RP's VASECTOMY guess.

Thanx for the fun, Ms. Rimkus darlin. Primo job.

Masked & Anonymo5Us


**gruntz**

Anonymous 1:24 PM  

I am older, consequently I have trouble with names of younger stars. However I do prefer surnames in the puzzles unless they are popular like Gaga, Riri, Ari, etc. I did like Rex and his answer to 1A

Whatsername 1:32 PM  

@Zed (10:00). You forgot SPRAY TAN, euphemism for you-know-who.

@Joseph Michael (10:21) Doing TIME? Here’s hoping.

@beverly c (11:14) A hammock hookup? LOL! Now I can’t unsee that! 🤣

okanaganer 1:42 PM  

For "Clutch, e.g." with the initial P in place I threw in PEDAL. Then the very next answer was PETAL and I thought "clever!"

For "Far from it" I wanted NOT EVEN CLOSE which perfectly fit the clue but didn't fit the slot, then NOT A CHANCE which did the opposite. Even after finishing, it took me a while to get how "Wound" = SNAKED. What's it called when a word's meaning depends on its pronunciation?

[Spelling Bee: yd 0; yay no words I've never heard of.]

Anonymous 2:03 PM  

@okanaganer. It's called a word whose meaning depends on its pronunciation. HAR!

GILL I. 2:05 PM  

@Unknown 1:13. To maybe make you enjoy Bob Obenkirk even more, try Google and open up his interview with Bill Maher on "The Need For Anger in Comedy on "Real Time.'...There are other clips of him on YouTube. He's funny and smart...like I mentioned. Hope you enjoy!
PS. I think this was aired April 23.

Emilie 2:13 PM  

I didn't care for the OSSIE/KERI cross. Not knowing either, Kari and even Kori are reasonable alternatives for names. Luckily only 3 to try.

Anonymous 2:14 PM  

just so folks know, FIRE isn't woke, more like a Radical Right nightmare. their history is going after Left-ish universities and professors. true fact.

https://prospect.org/education/conservatives-behind-campus-free-speech-crusade/

bocamp 2:14 PM  

@Anonymous (1:13 PM)

Thx for the 'Mighty Ira' rec. Watching it now: Plex app (free) on Apple TV.
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Anonymous 2:14 PM  

Hey - All you anti-ACLU Anons?

What exactly is your gripe? What is a "woke grifter"?

ACLU cares about more than rights in education. They defend the Bill of Rights for all.

https://www.aclu.org

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Anoa Bob 2:30 PM  

I was a sonar tech in the Navy and slang for that was "ping jockey". To ping is to send a pulse of sound under water and then listen for echoes. So I was thinking something along the line of "submarine detection" until crosses jogged my memory of the engine preignition type of ping.

There's a person named EGO? Maybe not far fetched enough for a Friday puzzle but there was an opportunity to cut back a little on the NAMED NAMES fest and cross reference 6D EGO with nearby 16D SELF.

I've never seen PET TRAINER before and a net search for that turned up mostly dog or animal TRAINER. The only PET TRAINER I found was the name of a brand shock collars for dogs.

Shock collars reminded me of one of my all time favorite "Cheers" episodes where Cliff Clavin tries out shock therapy to reduce his penchant for obnoxious behavior. It doesn't go well.

Beezer 3:28 PM  

Hand up for thinking of pings (in my younger days) as occurring when using low octane gas in a car that required high octane gas. In my NOW years of working I associate “ping” with people who are referring to “reminding someone of something via email or text.” So yes, it was not immediately apparent to me that “ping” was associated with car trouble, although I DO seem to recall that if my Dad’s Plymouth Fury III (🤣) had low octane gas (and “pinged” upon acceleration) I needed to be MUCH more careful merging onto a highway since it DIDN’T accelerate as fast. That spelled potential car trouble!

Joaquin 3:31 PM  

Like many others today, I learned a new word from what must be the world's best teacher, @LMS. So great to have her back posting again!

Anonymous 3:33 PM  

My daughter and I coined a word for that eagle or birdie that easily could’ve been a double bogey (and vice versa), because of all the options: alphapit. Only luck can get you in or out of it.

Anonymous 4:46 PM  

@Bocamp- Thank you for the heads up re: PLEX. Had never heard of that one.

bocamp 5:10 PM  

@Anonymous (4:46 PM)

Yw :)

I cut the cord many yrs ago, so I've culled as many of the 'free' apps on Apple TV as possible. Plex is one, and even tho it has the occasional ads, It's kinda like a blast from the past, in that sense. I almost enjoy watching them again. lol

Btw, I use JustWatch and Reelgood to see which sources are streaming a movie/series.
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Newboy 5:30 PM  

Thanks Claire. I saw your name and expected a real tussle that actually became more of a cakewalk! All those lovely long phrases that were so easily PINGed that I hadn’t even noticed the PPP others whined about. A couple were in that WOE realm, but most filled with reasonably good guess work.

ChE Dave 6:17 PM  

I liked the duel at dawn crossing Hamilton’s ActI

Anonymous 7:17 PM  

I was thinking “Natick Noddock” but it didn’t fit.

Z 7:41 PM  

@JD - Rex looked it up for us and i thought he nailed it: I don't know what AMBIsexual is, or how it differs from (mere?) BIsexual, hang on ... [furious research montage] ... wow, it's a polyvalent word. It can mean bi- or androgynous *or* unisex (like a garment). Cool, though it seems like using it might result in ambi-...-guity. I don’t even care what it means anymore, but I am glad he got to that ambiguity joke.

What I still haven’t figured out is why the ACLU pings. Maybe an Anon can help me out…

@Emilie - Hmmm, With “Davis of …” in the clue and OSSI_ in the puzzle I am wondering why you were guessing vowels for K_RI. But, yeah, crossing names at vowels is always suboptimal. Especially since there’s no indication of it being _____ Davis or Davis _____.

@Whatsername - Gee Willikers, If I count answers that evoke PPP we’d probably be at 100% every puzzle.

@pmdm - Despite the occasional claim here that the PPP I know is PPP everyone should know while the PPP people different than me know isn’t worth knowing, there are really just three more or less objectively true things to say about PPP: First, it is inherently exclusionary to some people; Second, vowels are essentially random letters when it comes to proper names if the solver doesn’t know the PPP (and you can expand this to all letters for rap artists, foreign names, and many product names); and Third, at 33% and above there will be people who DNF or struggle mightily because of the PPP. Everything else (even my wordplay > PPP contention) is de gustibus and all that.

The Donald 7:47 PM  

@Zed:

simple. the ACLU is creeping Commies. everybody knows that. and I won by a landslide.

scott siler 8:01 PM  

I loved atom and iota too. not just same clue but mirrored placement in the puzzle...

Anonymous 8:35 PM  

Remember Freedom of Speech means freedom of speech you hate.

Anonymous 8:41 PM  

ACLU was an answer in the puzzle and therefore fair game. It used to be a great organization and is now an embarrassment . FIRE for civil rights,

Anonymous 9:01 PM  

People don't seem to know what the Second Amendment really says - that the Government (Big G Government) can't put you in jail for saying things, nor deny you basic services for saying things (with notable exceptions for certain "things"). It does not guarantee you that you can say stupid, racist or bigoted things and not being called out on it. It does not give you the right to say anything in a private situation without fear of repercussions that the owner of that private situation finds offensive.

You can stand on the corner and say "I hate [insert any group of people, using derogatory terms here]" at the top of your lungs, and you won't get put in jail. That's the Second Amendment right. You may be shouted down by civilized folk, but that's their Second Amendment rights at play. You say those things in my house, and you'll get your ass kicked out. You say those things in your house while I'm there, and you'll see my ass leaving.

The key thing here is, a) you didn't get put in jail, and b) if you just stopped saying stupid, offensive, bigoted things, you wouldn't have anything to worry about.

Joe Dipinto 9:33 PM  

@M&A - I like your list. Made me try to think of a few more...

*ACTI-sexual. Doesn't stick around for seconds.
*AERO-sexual. Indulges in mile-high encounters exclusively.
*AQUA-sexual. Water sports must be involved.
*ASTA-sexual. Leashes and martinis must be involved.
*ABBA-sexual. Likes mixed doubles group sex while wearing glittery spaceship costumes. Preferably all participants should be blond or at least ginger.

Anonymous 9:46 PM  

@8:35

yeah, but... are outright lies and propaganda free speech? are death threats against poll workers free speech?? is attacking the Capitol free speech?? is it okay to proclaim, "hang Mike Pence?" and so on. the fact is, the Radical Right wants to install a minority as government, at all levels. all through the simple expedient of quashing the vote of the Left and Woke. makes it easier if your opponents can't vote.

They had things, levels of voting that if you'd ever agreed to it, you'd never have a Republican elected in this country again.
-- Batshit J. Moron/2020

Gary Jugert 10:30 PM  

Getting in late today. I was searching for a list of Hollywood B-listers and didn't realize all I needed to do was fill out today's puzzle and I would have an encyclopedic assembly.

Really not for me.

And it's our favorite lonely editor at work again.

Uniclues:

1 A story for another media outlet.
2 Tossed an asp on Griffith.
3 As they should.
4 When you're just double checking, despite it seeming a bit scandalous.
5 Jeez, even the flowers are getting it going.
6 DeVito running.
7 The day the new dumbells arrive.
8 My thought at virtually every exhibit in NYC's champaign socialist house of horrors, aka, art.

1 SINS ATOP AVA
2 SNAKED ANDY
3 ACLU NAMED NAMES
4 SPRAY TANS PEEP (~)
5 ASTERS HOOKED UP
6 RAPID DANNY
7 GYM RAT IN HEAVEN (~)
8 REAL MATURE MOMA

CDilly52 10:40 PM  

Claire, this was such fun and so well constructed that I could get all the names although there was some viwel-guessing going on fir sure. I am embarrassed to admit that after practicing law for 40+ years, my first thought (and like @Rex entry) at 1A was vasectomy rather than ESTATE LAW! A howling head smack. Again, I am going to blame it on my daily schedule that just will not seem to right itself so I get my solves in before late evening.

Some really fun clues and longer fill. Keep creating!

albatross shell 12:46 AM  

I tried Education before ESTATELAW and changed SLAW to dill only to change it back again.

After striking out in the NW and moving S and hitting seemingly endless names I had no idea about I just started looking them up. Over did it because the longer answers were extremely easy for a Friday and working into the NW from the F in FRAMED and LAHGHTRACK in wasn't too bad at all. SELF GILL etc.

@our favorite breathing apparatus:
Does this mean you breathe like a fish or drink like one?

@Sun Volt
NAMED NAMES best reveal ever for a themeless.

Got a deuce on on today's (now yesterday's) Wordle. Went from a correct R in the 4th place to CHARM. As the numbskull said, "Tis proof I'm a genius."

Joe 3:44 AM  

I loved the fact that this puzzle was so inclusionary.

NYDenizen 7:57 AM  

Wordle 441 4/6*

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⬜🟧🟧🟧🟧
🟧🟧🟧🟧🟧

Tricky today with seed coming up empty, but aided by the big set of exclusions, particularly with the vowels.

thefogman 11:00 AM  

Another good one! Am I INHEAVEN? A little bit on the easy side for Friday but aside from that it’s SAUL Goodman. Had fInED before CITED, oMnI before AMBI and ATad before ATOM. WELL done Claire Rimkus.

spacecraft 12:29 PM  

Yep, a clue set full of unknowns--except my grandson DANNY, who shares his name with Mr. Ocean, and was my shoehorn in. (Mini-theme with Julia Roberts mentioned in the NIECE clue?) Ultimately, though, I NAMED enough NAMES to get through it.

One snag was having a PE_T start to 31d and assuming it was PEsT-something, you know, animal control? Then I had a -LASS- segment in the gridspanner, and with a procrastinator in the clue really wished it was LAST. *click* Light bulb turns on. It IS LAST, and it's PET Tsomething. Nice teaching moment there. My only other stumble was "so imMATURE" instead of REALMATURE. Yeesh, you'd at least think they could say "really," but, that's how people talk, I guess.

Despite unnecessary PPP-stuffing (Nwodim of SNL, really?) this wasn't all that hard for a Friday. Crossing DANNY is ANDY (son, but not Danny's dad), so the fam is well represented. More on ANDY in a bit. Birdie.

Oh yeah, I had BGGGG by my second guess. And I went through every _ANDY in the book--EXCEPT I forgot to double down on the D! A Wordle DNF!

Burma Shave 12:34 PM  

WOO WOO

WHENINROME AMUSE THE girl,
and you’re IN HEAVEN or ELSE hell.
LAUGH a bit, ACT REALMATURE,
no TROBLE to be HOOHEDUP WELL.

--- ANDY REID

BS2 12:55 PM  

Must proofread TROUBLE HOOKEDUP

thefogman 1:29 PM  

Funny coincidence that ANDY was in the crossword and _ANDY was in Wordle. Almost got it in two tries but there are a few words that end in ANDY and in the end I got it in four…

Wordle 475 4/6*

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Anonymous 1:37 PM  

Anonymous 9:01 pm: it’s the FIRST amendment you’re referring to, not the second.

Diana, LIW 8:30 PM  

A name minefield says it all.

Lady Di

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