Korean rice dish often served in a hot stone bowl / SAT 2-5-22 / Like the villainous Max Shreck at the end of Batman Returns / Russian writer and dissident Limonov / Bygone Vatican money / Eponym of lifetime achievement award in fashion since 1984 / Archetypal bossypants

Saturday, February 5, 2022

Constructor: Kameron Austin Collins

Relative difficulty: Medium (i.e. properly hard but not brutal)


THEME: none 

Word of the Day: AD LITEM (11D: Appointed by the court) —

Ad litem (Latin: "for the suit"[1]) is a term used in law to refer to the appointment by a court of one party to act in a lawsuit on behalf of another party such as a child or an incapacitated adult, who is deemed incapable of representing him or herself. An individual who acts in this capacity is generally called a guardian ad litem in such legal proceedings; in Scotlandcurator ad litem is the equivalent term. In England and Wales, since the amendment of the Children Act 1989 established the role of children's guardian, the term is now used only in the term "guardian ad litem" in Private Law proceedings under rule 9.5. The United States legal system, which at its inception was based on the English legal system, continues to use the terms "guardian ad litem" and "attorney ad litem". The legal system in the Republic of Ireland also uses the term guardian ad litem.

The term is also used in property litigation, where a person may be appointed to act on behalf of an estate in court proceedings, when the estate's proper representatives are unable or unwilling to act.

The term is also sometimes used to refer to a judge who participates in only a particular case or a limited set of cases and does not have the same status as the other judges of the court. Such a jurist is more commonly called a judge ad hoc. Judges ad hoc are particularly common in international courts, and are fewer in number elsewhere.

The Latin term (ād lītem) translates literally as "for the suit" or "for the proceeding". (wikipedia)

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Now that's a Saturday. That hit the Saturday sweet spot for me, dead center. It's very hard to make a puzzle that is both very tough and very delightful, and this one pulls it off beautifully. Usually, if I have to struggle a lot, it's because of obscure garbage or because of clues that think they are being clever but are actually being extremely tenuous. The lovely thing about this puzzle—and it's at least somewhat a product of the grid structure—is that, with the exception of the NW and SE corners, I never felt like I might get trapped. There always seemed to be another path to find, another route around whatever roadblock had flung itself in my way. Also, the puzzle alternated moods, rewarding me with some colorful gimmes (or near gimmes), but then punishing me with ambiguity or legal Latin or some reality show contestant's first name. A real rollercoaster, this one, but it did what rollercoasters are supposed to do: thrill me, not give me whiplash or make me barf. I will say that there was one part of the puzzle, one square, that seemed borderline unfair to me, and unsurprisingly, it involved the crossing of two proper nouns at a vowel (the thing that should set off All The Alarm Bells with constructors / editors). But I'm realizing now that it felt unfair because I was getting my Congressional CORYs mixed up, i.e. despite what the clue obviously says, in my head it was referring to CORI Bush, not CORY Booker (damn, they even have the same initials, and same-sounding syllables opening their last names!). If you are reading the clue correctly, then you know you're dealing with the senator from New Jersey, Booker, who is a man, and not the representative from Missouri, Bush, who is a woman. Because he's a man, CORY Booker would not (in all probability) spell his name CORI. So even if you assumed that RIDERS was spelled like that, with an "I," the normal way, you'd have to change it to accommodate CORY, who is, in fact, famous enough to take this crossing out of Natick territory. That is, he's very famous (in the U.S.), and so you can be expected to know his name, and infer the "Y" spelling. Don't do what I did and get CORI Bush involved. *Do* put CORI Bush in your puzzles, though ... just watch that last vowel! (And in case you're wondering, COREY Feldman spells it with an "E"):


After a small struggle in the NW, I finished it up and then peeked my head around the corner into the center of the grid, and instantly ... whoosh! 


GATEWAY DRUG becomes gateway answer as I go flying into the fat middle of the grid. I picked up SPRAY-ON TANS not long thereafter, off just the "-PR-," and so I really thought I might make relatively short work of this thing, but then the Saturdayness of it all kicked in. I had no memory of "Batman Returns," so TASED was hard. I had COWER before LOWER (27A: Humble), so LATKE was surprisingly difficult (27D: Holiday pancake). Having a "C" in the initial position, and having "pancake" in the clue, caused me to write in CREPE there! Awful pitfall. No idea about BECCA. Found the PACKED part of PACKED HOUSE really hard to turn up—could not make good sense of "selling out" (32A: Result of selling out). Wanted SCUMS before CRUDS (30D: Disgusting buildups). Thought PONTE ended in an "A" (!?) (24D: ___ Vecchio). So that COWER / LOWER screw-up had cascading repercussions, and the PACKED part of the grid was a real struggle. The most obscure thing to me was AD LITEM. I knew I was dealing with legal Latin, but I just couldn't come up with any plausible Latin noun (in the objective case) to fill the space. Sigh. EDUARD was also obscure to me, but I could at least build a plausible name out of the letters I got from crosses. I literally exclaimed "oh no!" toward the end when I got to [blank]-TESTS (37D: Nonproliferation treaty subjects, in brief), because my experience seeing this clue / answer type (crosswordese going Way back), is that any one of three letters might occupy that first position: A (Atomic), H (Hydrogen), or N (Nuclear). So after an out-loud "oh no!" my brain went into a silent "please be obvious please be obvious please be obvious" prayer, and thankfully DIN was obliging (35A: It's a racket). Speaking of answered prayers, one of my favorite moments of the solve came toward the end, as I was just about to enter my final corner, the southeast. I took one look at 46A: Sugar substitute?, took another look at what I had in the grid (SN-), and then I just threw down the first thing that came to mind: a cutesy and old-fashioned term of affection that made me smile so broadly that I actually said, out loud, "please be right please be right please be right...."


And it was so. Ask and ye shall receive! Amen.

Explainers:
  • 25D: Eponym of a lifetime achievement award in fashion since 1984 (BEENE) — That's Geoffrey BEENE
  • 1A: Birdie of Broadway's "Bye Bye Birdie" (CONRAD) — I've seen the movie with Ann-Margret but I forgot that the title character's first name was CONRAD. He's the teen idol who gets drafted and then ends up in the middle of a publicity stunt involving his singing a song called "One Last Kiss" on the Ed Sullivan Show, and then actually giving "one last kiss" to some lucky member of his fan club, on air ... you probably know all this. I'm just reminding myself. 
  • 42A: Sayings attributed to Jesus (LOGIA) — "communications of divine origin"; not to be confused with actor Robert (two-G) LOGGIA, though (speaking of "communications of divine origin") LOGGIA did play Joseph in "The Greatest Story Ever Told":
  • 16A: Korean rice dish often served in a hot stone bowl (BIBIMBAP) — got that last vowel right this time! Not "MMMBOP" but "Mmm .. BIBIMBAP!" Hurray, memory!
  • 17D: The right one can produce a smile (PARENTHESIS) — think "emoticon" ... the right (not left!!) PARENTHESIS is the smile in the smiley face emoticon :)
  • 32D: Like early uncensored Hollywood films (PRE-CODE) — the Hays Code, which went into effect in 1934, severely limited the amount of sex, crime, nudity, etc. you could show on film. PRE-CODE films can seem pretty racy, at times, by Classic Hollywood ('30s-'50s) standards. Always expect to see at least one film clue in KAC's puzzles (he's a film critic for Rolling Stone).
LOL

Signed, Rex Parker, King of CrossWorld

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122 comments:

Anonymous 6:51 AM  

Found this one pretty dull both in terms of the fill and the solve.

Anonymous 6:56 AM  

FH
Had OUT instead of DUB ("Talk over?" i.e. "Over and OUT!", which I thought was clever) and that hung me up in the NW corner til the end.

Anonymous 7:02 AM  

"Weeeee love you CONRAD, oh yes weeee doooo..."

Lewis 7:18 AM  

I come into a KAC Saturday with excitement and trepidation. The latter because I know it is going to be tough, as there are going to be answers out of my knowledge, and there will be brain-tearing clues.

But it’s the former, the excitement, that dominates my anticipation. I know there is going to be terrific wordplay-based smile-producing cluing, including at least one world class clue. I know that the grid will be junk-free, that the puzzle will feel fresh, and that Kameron’s personality will come shining through, and a puzzle with a constructor’s stamp is special.

The grid design looked familiar, so I went to XwordInfo and looked at Kameron’s previous NYT puzzles, and sure enough, it’s very similar to his 7/14/18 grid, allowing for a pair of staggered stacks.

Enough with the technicalities. Today’s offering rose to my expectations. Look at the spotless grid, and mind you, this is a 66-word (very low word count) offering. Look at the answer choices – classic, contemporary, and from so many fields. Look at the mind-bending clues and the smile-producing clues. Magnificent wordplay in the clues for AREA RUG, DEADLY, ACT, PAINT GUN, SNOOKUMS, FAST, and PACKED HOUSE. And there’s that world-class clue: [The right one can produce a smile], for PARENTHESIS.

And so, when the next KAC Saturday rolls around, you can be sure I’ll face it once again with trepidation, yes, but more so with excitement. In my constructor hall of fame, Kameron, you are a standout. You do Crosslandia proud. Thank you for your oeuvre and this opus. Bravo!

Anonymous 7:19 AM  

LOUSY puzzle. BIBIMBAP? Are you f***ing serious?

There's more CRUDS in the grid, as well.

pabloinnh 7:22 AM  

I'm familiar with KAC as his puzzles appear often in the New Yorker, usually on Mondays when they have their hardest ones. I'm often bamboozled by his pop culture references but not today. RYDERS was about it.

The NW went in lickety split thanks to CONRAD, skipped around, wound up in the SW which was also fast, thanks to SNOOKUMS, which made me smile ala OFL. Two minor snags--OUSTS for BUSTS which made BONDS hard to see, and the not infrequent misreading of a lower case r and n side by side, making an m, leaving me looking for a "Home of music", thus complicating the uncomplicated. Should I be onto this by now? Well, yes.

Thought this was a great time with a lot of fun answers. I don't Keep A Count, KAC, but this is one of my favorites of yours, for which thanks.

pabloinnh 7:26 AM  

****SB Alert*** (No spoilers)

Forgot to mention that SN does not accept the noble profession of INNKEEPING in its word list today, something we practiced for thirty years. I mean, really.

Son Volt 7:29 AM  

Compared to his normal fare - this didn’t measure up. There’s just not much to like here - once you get past BANANA CREAM and PUDDY TAT it was all useless trivia and brutal plurals. I’ve never heard it used in the plural - but I guess if you say CRUDS - you also watch the Bachelor and get SPRAY ONs like 45.

Liked the Y cross with CORY x RYDERS and the distinct AD LITEM. The LOGIA plural was cool. Rather the kimbap rolls than the bowl of rice but it does fit the role for crazy letter string.

Saturdayish but not the usual fun we see from this constructor. Stan’s center box in the Stumper today is the real deal.

smalltowndoc 7:44 AM  

TASED clued as "Like the villainous Max Schreck, at the end of "Batman Returns"?? Seriously?

kitshef 7:49 AM  

Tough spot for me was AREPAS crossing AD LITEM, neither of which I knew but 'A' seemed like the best bet for each individually, and hence for the cross.

Agree that GATEWAY DRUG served as a figurative gateway to the the rest of the puzzle.

Z 7:53 AM  

What @Lewis said about printing the puzzle and seeing the byline. KAC is going to have PPP that only the “I love to learn new things” crowd can love. But it’s generally gettable if you apply your solving chops and don’t give up.

Well, I did give up, but only because it was late and I was tired and I should know better than to attack a KAC puzzle at midnight. At that point I had three corners done and the SW and middle glaring at me, daring me to buckle. But a good sleep and some fresh coffee and I slayed the dragon this morning. LOWly was an issue, as was PAINTs on as was being totally blind to the old canard of a GATEWAY DRUG. Seeing NOGGIN and TENSES helped me make short work of the SW this morning, and that gave me enough of the front ends of that middle stack. Finished at TASED and correcting LOWER (D’Oh, humble is a verb today) and finally, finally, grokking PARENTHESIS (I was still thinking “what kind of thesis would make me smile?”) and SPRAY ON TAN.

My biggest criticism of the puzzle is the isolated corners. Th NW and SE especially are practically their own mini puzzles. BIBIMBAP as the word that connects the NW to the rest of the puzzle seems a little unfair. Korean food may be all the rage in big cities, but I only really know BIBIMBAP from puzzles. I didn’t fully trust the AP ending until the very end.

AD LITEM was a gimme here. Work in a big enough school district or just long enough and you will run into a Guardian AD LITEM. The presence of one almost always indicated a student who needed extra support and TLC.

Anyone else notice that the menu was unusually eclectic today? AREPAS, BANANA CREAM LATKES, and BIBIMBAP is not our usual crossworld menu.

SouthsideJohnny 8:00 AM  

Anonymous 8:08 AM  

Had LOWLY for Humble and it took me a long time to unwind that, but that unlocked the center for me, and I quickly finished from there except that I had parenthesEs instead of PARENTHESIS - need to read those clues carefully for parts of speech! So took another five minutes hunting that one down. Overall a lot of fun headscratchers and a few sure bets to anchor me: PONTE, NERUDA, BIBIMBAP, ISOMER, DANUBE, AREPAS, and of course CORY Booker :)

Roberto 8:11 AM  

agreed very strsnge

mambridge 8:14 AM  

BostonCREAM

Z 8:14 AM  

Cleanup on aisle late yesterday

@albatross shell - Ah, but you learn that some letters are in the right spot, so even with lots of allowable anagrams you can rule out most of them.
As to your other question, if you know you’re always going to win it’s not much of a game, is it. To me that’s the fundamental flaw of sudoku, every puzzle is eventually solvable.

@satellite73 - People reading the mobile version can see what you are replying to. But to anyone using the web version all your comments just look the ravings of someone talking to themselves because they stopped taking their meds.

**wordle alert**
nothing right on my first guess and still finished with a confident guess on guess four.
Wordle 231 4/6*

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Anonymous 8:19 AM  

One of the big songs from "Bye Bye Birdie"--repeated throughout the production--is "We Love You, CONRAD." Just sayin', Rex.

mmorgan 8:30 AM  

Nice tasty Saturday. I also had cOWER and crepe for a while… and PAINTing held me up until I tried GUN. Lots of fun stuff, a good, fair workout.

SouthsideJohnny 8:32 AM  

This one may be right up your alley if you are a hard core solver or thrive on this level of difficulty. For someone like me who is basically holding on for dear life every Saturday, this one was pretty much over before it started. When the grid is this stuffed with quasi and made-up words and things, the late-week crosses just aren’t enough to carry the day. This one qualifies as brutal in that regard (NERUDA, ADLITEM(?), BETES, BEENE, BIBIMBAP(!), CONRAD, LOGIA, EDUARD, NTESTS . . . ) - that is a lot of real estate occupied by some very Saturday-level esoterica. Congrats to all thee who persevered and conquered !

Keith D 8:32 AM  

@ Zex: “Zex”? Really? The transmogrification is nearly complete, I guess?

Conrad 8:41 AM  


Dropped in 1A right away (obviously) and figured this would be an unusually easy KAC. I figured wrong. PAINT rUb is a thing, right? Where you dip a rag in paint and smear it on a wall? No? That's how it went for me.

Fellow Earthling 8:47 AM  

I hated every second of this puzzle. It was a horrible slog and felt like I was taking a test. It took me double my usual Saturday time. I’m not a fan of KAC’s puzzles at all.

Anonymous 8:48 AM  

Writing LOWly for “Humble” certainly slowed me down. At one point thought that the pie filling might be BANANA bREAd. Yuck. And I loved the position of GATEWAY DRUG. A sweet Saturday puzzle,

Anonymous 8:51 AM  

Had Fudd's Hat instead of Puddy Cat

DrBB 8:57 AM  

Lots of satisfying-to-fix pitfalls and too-early-to-commit-on-this-guess-but-here-goes moments in this one for me. PONTE Vecchio was the one of the latter. I was pretty sure, but wanted that pie to be some kind of pecan, so it kept me wobbling. Another was PREHAYS, which I was pretty sure of for the longest time, but really wanted ACT for 41A and that got me to switch it to PRECODE and the SW fell. I knew 46A was cluing an endearment not a flavor enhancer, but didn't get SNOOKUMS until I guessed "bronze" in 21D was going to be some kind of TANning product. Probably the worst for me was16A, which I kinda sorta new ended in some onomatopoeia-sound like BAP but not the rest of the word. But I so, so, SO wanted NEBULA for 3D, and daring to fill that one gave me the NE. Other high points for me: NERUDA, not the commonest of XW poets and one of my favorites. Another Oh-I-hope-it's-that that helped solidify other guesses in the NE.

I love that feeling of guess on guess, all of those "maybe...?" moments like strands that could snap at any time or start holding a whole web together, and this one hit and stayed on that effect from start to finish. 17:23 for me, which is above my Saturday target time of 15:00, but a nice indicator of just-hard-enough-to-be-oh-so-satisfying, which is everything I ask from a Friday or Saturday puzzle.

MORE LIKE THIS PLEASE!

bocamp 8:58 AM  

Thx Kameron; doesn't get any better than this! :)

Med.++

Got off to a great start in the NW; then dropped in GATEWAY DRUGS and BANANA CREAM. Blundered with LOWly, which cost me dearly.

The rest was all hit and miss, with the SW taking the longest time to put together.

PARENTHESIS, PACKED HOUSE and SPRAY ON TAN were tough to see, due to my LOWly fiasco.

Ended up in the NE not knowing AREPAS and AD LITEM, but everything else in that corner seemed solid, so it worked out.

Felt very fortunate to get this one right, esp. after dnfs on Thurs. & Fri.

Another great battle, well worth the fight.

@okanaganer 👍 for 0's
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yd pg: 14:47 / Wordle: 4

Peace ~ Compassion ~ Tolerance ~ Kindness to all 🕊

Trey 8:58 AM  

I would have said "brutal but enjoyable" as I tend to like the Saturday puzzles when the provide challenges. I got GATEWAYDRUG with no crosses, then entered tanning beds with no crosses (also thought of metal smith, which has the same number of letters). One answer helped and the other provided a ton of self-inflicted challenges. Then had cOWEd for LOWER (was thinking it was related to kowtow, but obviously did not know it started with a 'k'). The middle remained a mess until I saw PACKED HOUSE off getting PRECODE and PRICE, and then things started to fall into place. The __CCA almost certainly had to be BECCA. The middle then fell with little more resistance. I continue to have an issue with BEENE as I always want BEaNE, and I knew that was wrong as it would leave 2 'a's in a row for a pie filling. Fixing that gave me BANANA CREAM.

Lots to love here - clues for GATEWAY DRUG, SPRAY ON TANS, PARENTHESIS, PACKEDD HOUSE, PUDDY TAT, PLANET, etc. The NE was the last to fall. I have never heard of AREPAS, and I am never sure if NERUDA is NaRUla, NaRUDA, NERUlA or some other spelling. It does not help that I once worked with someone whose last name was Narula, so I could not get that out of my head. AD LITEM is also not known to me. That made that corner a mess. I got it, but not without a lot of sweat.

Way above my average time for a Saturday. Other than the NE, it was clever cluing rather than arcana that did it.

amyyanni 9:13 AM  

Yes, the pathway thingy Rex wrote about. Agree, superb Saturday. Love SNOOKUMS and PUDDY, especially; always grand to be reminded of Birdie.

SouthsideJohnny 9:14 AM  

Wordle 231 3/6

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Nice little run to start round 2 - three under after three.

Z 9:15 AM  

Speaking if eclectic food choices…

Phil 9:20 AM  

Carola 9:21 AM  

Medium here, too. Highlights for me were a mix of the easy-to-get-and-endearing SNOOKUMS and PUDDY TAT, the not-getting-it-until-the-last-moment PACKED HOUSE and PARENTHESIS, and the thought of BANANA CREAM PIE (crossed with LATKE...that combo would make quite a supper).

Do-overs: LOWly, PAINTing. No idea: BECCA, RYDER, LOGIA, EDUARD.

Teedmn 9:22 AM  

I would have been very nervous if I'd looked at the constructor's name before solving but I try to not look so as to avoid that very thing - being predisposed positively or negatively to the puzzle by the constructor. Not that I dislike KAC's puzzles, I just know they're tough.

But this was in my Saturday moving average of 22 minutes and I never got stuck though the NW and SW had me worried for a bit. Got my start in the NE with DIY crossing SAY YES.

I suspected LATKE early on, never had the crepe urge there, mostly because LATKE was a SB word I struggled with the other day so it came to mind easily. But that led to LOWly for "humble"; wondering what "bronzes" had to do with SPy-anything, 21D, helped me think of SPRAY ON TANS. Where I had the crepes urge was at 7A when __EP_S tried to lead me there but maize crepes? I don't think so.

DIY - I used to do a lot of DIY work on my car (especially my 1978 green Pinto) - I brought a pickle fork and a torque wrench to my joining of tool boxes with my husband's more extensive collection. Recently, when it seemed impossible to get an appointment to have the oil changed in my Prius, I started talking about doing it myself and my husband totally pooh-poohed it. I watched a YouTube video and it seemed eminently doable, nothing special about it. In the end, I didn't do it, and I felt sort of wimpy conceding defeat. And why is it that every auto repair shop in my town (and there are tons of them) is jam-packed? Drive by and there are cars parked in every available spot. Is it the supply-chain issue, that no one could buy a new vehicle so everyone is driving around a piece of CRUD?

I circled three clues as wonderfully misleading today - 32A for PACKED HOUSE, 40A for FAST and the 17D clue for PARENTHESeS. Yes, I had a DNF there crossing LOGeA. When Rex started his discussion about tough vowel crossings, I said, "Yes, yes, I know exactly...um, no." I didn't have any trouble with Cory Booker.

KAC, thanks for the Saturday workout, this was fun.

Anonymous 9:24 AM  

Hated this one, so naturally it’s one Rex actually liked.

Batman Returns clue required incredibly specific knowledge for a movie that is not on the list of older films that every American can be expected to have seen or at least be familiar with. Mr. Shreck ain’t no Wicked Witch of the West. What random movie ending can we ask about next?

Mr. Cheese 9:26 AM  

I know it’s only early February but the Clue-of-the-year may be the “parenthesis” clue.
@pablohhn I tried “innkeeping” four times. I refused to believe it wasn’t accepted.

Nancy 9:31 AM  

What an idiot I am! I wrote in BANANA bREAd for the pie filling and then I'm thinking: What a perfectly awful-sounding pie! But I didn't correct it until the very end. AD LITEM was no help at all and I had ---ITEd, which looked pretty good to me, only I didn't know what it was.

"The right one can produce a smile" produced in me the kind of unbearable curiosity that I fervently wish for in crosswords. I had no idea what the answer would be -- only that it would be probably one of the best puzzle clues ever. And it is. PARENTHESIS is one of my favorite clues of the year.

I must expand my foreign foods dining experience. I didn't know either BIBIMBAP or AREPAS -- which handicapped me in two sections. But PUDDYTAT filled in nicely, and I knew CONRAD right off the bat. When you're a fan of musical theater as I am, you even know a lot of the bad musicals. What I'm saying is: Don't go rushing to see "Bye Bye Birdie". I'll post that vapid song tribute to CONRAD if Rex or someone in the commentariat hasn't done so already.

This was a nice challenge, with good cluing and chewy fill. I liked it a lot.

Jim mcdougall 9:35 AM  

Glad you got your pancakes (latkes) today in case Snookums didn't make them for you yesterday on her snow day!! Cheers. Jim

puzzlehoarder 9:44 AM  

Terrific puzzle. Does anyone else think this looks like the number 22?

The difficulty level was a mixed bag. With the exception of the R of AREPAS the top two corners were early week. When I tried to break into the center the wheels came off. In retrospect this was primarily due to my thinking BEENE was spelled BEANE.

When I got tired of spinning my wheels on the center I tried the SE. That section was so easy it felt like I had cheated. It gave me SPRAYONTANS off the NS and the rest of the center and the SW filled in smoothly.

The prolonged struggle with the center pushed this well into challenging territory but after two days of failure it was nice to get back to a clean grid.

yd -0

RooMonster 9:45 AM  

Hey All !
Nearly completed cheat-free, but alas, twas not to be. Broke down and Googed for two answers, BIBIMBAP and BECCA. With those two, able to complete, although still a DNF. 😕 Had PeICE/PeECODE (unsure what a PEECODE might be, but hey), and that pesky I/Y of CORi/RiDERS.

Nice swath of 11's in the center. 6 crossing. Tough to pull off cleanly, along with the other words coming off them.

NYTXW getting in fart jokes with "Silent partner?" Har. Wanted TreED for TASED for a bit. LOWly-LOWER. Did get GATEWAYDRUG off just the G, so YAY ME!

Nice SatPuz KAC. Keeps the ole NOGGIN actively working.

yd -5, missed 2 pangrams 😕, should'ves 4

One F
RooMonster
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burtonkd 9:50 AM  

I would go with full on challenging today. A full on half hour to get this. Really hard to get traction in the SW.

I couldn't see a lot of misdirects, whereas they usually are the first thing I think of. Couldn't think of CRAB____ as a non food clue. I could only see "Selling out" as giving up your beliefs despite this being theater production week..."Live on water" was terrific, but required an alphabet run to get me out of 4 letter houseboat life???

Too bad for me that LUCYVANPELT fits for PETTYTYRANT. I like my wrong PPP answer better.
Someday I'll remember that TASED is not spelled with a Z
We can now add the kealoa adjacent: NAH - test.
Russian writer: Dmitri and Sergei didn't pan out...
I liked the Hollywood duo of pre-code era, then a Hollywood precursor clue that had me thinking time instead of just a word before. Good kind of tricky.
Liked the SPRAYONTAN clue, but the Olympics starting and a recent Bronze = 3rd place clue kept that hidden for a while.

Overall, this puzzle was the right one to produce a smile!



Beezer 9:50 AM  

A lot to like here and I was happy to have confidently plopped in GATEWAYDRUG (even though I don’t believe it). Like @Trey(I think), I didn’t know AREPAS and I can never seem to remember whether Pablo is NARUDA or NERUDA but the grass clue put that to bed. My biggest problem was in the SW since I had PAINTING instead of PAINTGUN and that short-circuited everything because it didn’t occur to me that PAINTING was wrong…until it became impossible.

@Nancy, I know what you mean about Bye, Bye Birdie. I did not see a stage production and I confess that the only reason it makes me smile is that when the movie came out when I was a kid, I loved Dick Van Dyke. Well. I still love Dick Van Dyke…hard NOT to like the man, he is so doggone upbeat!

Frantic Sloth 9:54 AM  

Dude always gives me a run for my money, but either he let up on the gas or I'm starting to catch on to his style because this one just flowed from beginning to end.

It seems the trick that worked for me was to guess an answer that had some vague, gossamer tether to the clue, know it must be wrong, and put it in anyway.
Then once it all worked, go "Oh. Okay. Gotcha."
Rinse and repeat and Bob's your uncle!

Didn't know ADLITEM, and I never invited him, but he came with PUDDYTAT so I just had to SAYYES, allowing him entry to my soirée.
Didn't know BECCA either, but crosses let her in the back door.

And ew: SNOOKUMS is just a half-step up from Schmoopy.

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A Moderator 9:59 AM  

I just found three legitimate posts from the past week among all the spellcasters in the spam folder. I apologize for not checking the spam folder sooner.

Wanderlust 10:09 AM  

Nor geeking! I am geeking out over spelling bee and it won’t take the very word.

Greater Fall River Committee for Peace & Justice 10:11 AM  

OK, I looked up AREPAS, since everybody but me seems to know it. It's from northern South America. Made from Masarepa, a dehydrated cooked corn meal said to be available in the Latin section of most supermarkets in either white or yellow varieties. I wonder if posole would substitute, I have some of that in my pantry.
I think I looked up BIBIMBAP the last time it was in a puzzle, but have forgotten.

Z 10:19 AM  

@Anon9:24 - If you happen to know, great, but the clue gives enough information without ever having seen the movie (like me). “Like” suggests either an -ly or -ED ending, so checking either cross gets you 40% of the answer. “Villainous” and “at the end” further narrows down the possibilities. What happens to the bad guys at the end of super hero movies? They’re either killed off or captured. Getting to TASED from “Like a bad guy at the end of a super hero movie” isn’t that hard. I got BECCA in much the same way, “Common nickname for the sort of stereotypical woman who might be on one of those faux romance reality shows” is a bit wordy, but worked for me.
Part of what helped me get from sporadic Saturday finisher to regular Saturday finisher is learning to translate the clues with useless to me information. TASED, BECCA, and CONRAD all needed “translation” for me to solve the puzzle today.

@Keith D - Blame @egs…

Nancy 10:21 AM  

Here it is, as promised. Or threatened. "We Love You, CONRAD" from "Bye Bye Birdie".

This is a song that manages to be totally vapid and yet beyond annoying at the same time. As well as unbearably screechy. And it really pains me to say so. I took a class at the 92Y years and years ago -- with the fall semester taught by lyricist Lee Adams and the spring session taught by composer Charles Strouse. One man was more charming and fascinating than the other. And Lee Adams was unbelievably attractive as well.

mathgent 10:34 AM  

I needed five cheats - BIBIMBAP, EDUARD, AREPAS, BECCA, ADLITEM. It reminded me of when I would routinely need ten cheats to do the Friday or Saturday.

Despite being humbled, I enjoyed it. Very good variety of words, clever cluing, sparkly, and single-digit threes.

The cluing is pretty fair but PERPS in crime shows aren't extras, they're lead characters. And BUSTS for "Disbands" needs an "up."

Late yesterday, @oldtimer commented about Noe Valley being in the puzzle. He used to live there. It was expensive then and he wondered what it costs to buy a house there now. In December it was 2.2 million.

Wanderlust 10:41 AM  

Took me a while to get a foothold but once I did, it went well until I got back to the NW. didn’t remember CONRAD, and I had host for a while instead of ARMY. Luckily, I know BIBIMBAP (and love it), though I’m never sure how to spell it or even how many letters it has so I didn’t put it in right away. Seeing AREA RUG finally got me to the end. I love that use of LOUSY - as in, “this Spelling Bee is lousy with ridiculous “words” like ratatat and pitapat.” Unlike its clue (replete), though, it seems like it can only be used negatively. You wouldn’t say, “this puzzle is lousy with great clues.”

Speaking of which, I agree that the PARENTHESIS clue is an early contender for the year’s best.

About the only thing I didn’t like about the puzzle was CRUDS - I can’t imagine using that word as a plural, and I don’t want to imagine the substances that would prompt me to do so.

Also, the joke really should be, “I can paddle a boat, CANOE?” You don’t row a canoe. The best summer of my life was a college break working at a CANOE outfitter just outside the Boundary Waters in Minnesota. Took a weeklong canoe camping trip with three co-workers at the end of the summer - so idyllic, and the only time I’ve ever seen the Northern Lights.

PaulyD 10:43 AM  

At a skosh above fourteen minutes, about twice my Saturday average, I'd have to give this one a VERY CHALLENGING. Actually had to run the alphabet on AREPAS, which I'd never before seen. I admired this puzzle more than enjoyed it, although the clue on PARENTHESIS was truly outstanding.

GILL I. 10:43 AM  

When I see a KAC, I do the angst agitation two-step. My oof de oof splatters on my well coifed do many a times. My bootstraps give me the stink eye and I know I have to get up once again and try, try and try.
I did.
I will start by saying I love all things KAC. He makes me go down memory lane. I know this and that. My AHA screams with delight when I see something I know. It promptly do the plunk in here and yon to a happy tune.
I had to call my pesty know-it-all friend a few times, but he was polite with his answers (this time).
I'll start with CONRAD and Bye Bye Birdie. I saw the movie many moons ago and all I could remember was Ann-Margaret and Janet Leigh. Well....they didn't fit in the door jam. I had to call in for that answer.
I also didn't know BECCA because (shock) I don't watch The Bachelor. CORY was another call in. The names always get me good.
Delighted to see BIBIMBAP and AREPAS. I love them both. I eat Korean a lot (don't over fry your egg) and I make AREPAS. NERUDA is my SNOOKUM. I love his work.
My BETES noires, though, kept creeping up in my dreams. Did you now that I wanted marijuana to be a GATEWAY to heaven? It didn't fit. Oh, its DRUG.....
I really like seeing PUDDY TAT NOGGIN do a romp with my SNOOKUMS.
This took a while , but I really liked it. I'm glad @Rex did as well.

My daughter, son-in-law and our two grandchildren are coming over to continue lifting my delight. I'm celebrating being born on this day. Champagne for all.....

jae 10:54 AM  

Easy. No erasures and EDUARD as clued was my only WOE. The center long downs were fairly obvious which helped, plus I knew CONRAD. Solid and very smooth but not quite as lively as yesterday’s. Liked it.

CDilly52 11:00 AM  

@Zex 7:53 AM: i erred by starting this at about midnight and fell asleep. My brain was not ready for a KAC puzzle.

oceanjeremy 11:03 AM  

My wife and I RACED through this puzzle. “Did we just set a record for a Saturday puzzle?” I asked as we finished. “I don’t know, I’ve never timed it,” she replied.

I followed up with, “I don’t know if this puzzle was just easy for a Saturday, or just right on my bandwidth because of all the bad jokes, but I loved it.” SNOOKUMS was, by far, my favorite answer, so I’m pleased to see OFL appreciated it as well. Like OFL, I also got it with just the SN start. Unlike OFL, I did not grin — I instead chuckled my head off for a solid minute and a half or so.

I have to pat myself on the back, as I nailed *most* of the long answers with only a few letters each (though my Better Half got a couple herself). Part of what made it enjoyable.

We did tackle the Sunday diagramless just before this (as NYT weekend subscribers we get all the Sunday puzzles delivered on Saturday). Perhaps the practice got our minds in gear? Whatever the reason, it was oh so swift but oh so enjoyable. Bravo.

bocamp 11:06 AM  

Thx SB, for BIBIMBAP.

Tonight I Can Write (The Saddest Lines) (Pablo Neruda)

Tonight I can write the saddest lines.

Write, for example, 'The night is starry and the stars are blue and shiver in the distance.'

The night wind revolves in the sky and sings.

Tonight I can write the saddest lines.
I loved her, and sometimes she loved me too.

Through nights like this one I held her in my arms.
I kissed her again and again under the endless sky.

She loved me, sometimes I loved her too.
How could one not have loved her great still eyes.

Tonight I can write the saddest lines.
To think that I do not have her. To feel that I have lost her.

To hear the immense night, still more immense without her.
And the verse falls to the soul like dew to the pasture.

What does it matter that my love could not keep her.
The night is starry and she is not with me.

This is all. In the distance someone is singing. In the distance.
My soul is not satisfied that it has lost her.

My sight tries to find her as though to bring her closer.
My heart looks for her, and she is not with me.

The same night whitening the same trees.
We, of that time, are no longer the same.

I no longer love her, that's certain, but how I loved her.
My voice tried to find the wind to touch her hearing.

Another's. She will be another's. As she was before my kisses.
Her voice, her bright body. Her infinite eyes.

I no longer love her, that's certain, but maybe I love her.
Love is so short, forgetting is so long.

Because through nights like this one I held her in my arms
my soul is not satisfied that it has lost her.

Though this be the last pain that she makes me suffer
and these the last verses that I write for her.

Translation by W. S. Merwin

(All Poetry)

@puzzlehoarder 👍 for 0 yd
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Peace ~ Compassion ~ Tolerance ~ Kindness to all 🕊

CDilly52 11:07 AM  

I’m with @Lewis today. While I normally grouse about grids that play lime five isolated puzzles, this one gave me some long pathways ii to the “island regions” with GATEWAY DRUG, PARENTHESIS and SPRAY ON TANS. Now that is some excellent constructing artistry and craft. Artistry with clever clues and craft giving us some “gateways” so as to avoid the isolated corner “separate puzzle” problem.

I solve the New Yorker puzzles and am always tickled to see a KAC Monday because it gives me a heavy workout. Today’s byline made smile (no PARENTHESIS necessary).

Perfect Saturday workout.

Unknown 11:17 AM  

@ PaulyD Thanks for the humblebrag! Your mother must be very proud of you!

I thought this was a crunchy Saturday (though much easier than the standard set 15 years ago . . . .)
But unlike rex, I thought the NW and SE corners were very segregated - almost isolated. I misread "HOME" of music, so I was thinking, "Grand old Opry??" but then I squinted and realized it was LENA. I need to get my vision checked!

And onto more important news: Amazing what a good first guess can do.
Wordle 231 2/6

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Anonymous 11:17 AM  

This is the NEW YORK Times. Bibimbap is a known thing. One day I will even taste it

jberg 11:17 AM  

Pretty brutal for me, but very satisfying as the answers emerged. I kept getting in my own way. First, I've never seen any version of Birdie, but of course I heard that song on the radio many times. On top of that, my middle name is CONRAD. Despite all that, I remembered the name as CONwAy -- not totally surprising, as the title was a play on the name of Conway Twitty, a pop star at the time. RAISE finally became inevitable, so that got sorted.

Then I was thinking of the strong, silent type for 18A, which gave me 'jute' for the type of grass (no idea whether it actually is) and left the Spanish patties with a J in them. I know what AREPAS are, but couldn't get past the J for too long.

I had LOWly just like everyone else, but to further get in my own way I misread the clue number an put DANUBE at 33A instead of 35A.

OTOH, BIBIMBAP was my first entry. For those unfamiliar: it's a bowl of rice with sliced up meat and vegetables on top, and a raw egg sunny-side up on top of that. As soon as you get it you stir the egg into the rice (which is hot enough to cook it) along with the vegetables and meat. Then you take the little pitcher of hot sauce they gave you and stir all that in as well. The reason for the hot stone bowl is to make sure the egg cooks properly. I first had it in Korea, but it's popping up more and more in the US. There are more Korean restaurants, and it turns out that many Japanese restaurants are actually run by Koreans, who are starting to add the dish to their menus. Try it, you'll like it.

I did kind of resist PAINT GUN, as I'd call it a spray gun, but that's just me.

@Z, an interesting chart. I've heard Italians say that bolognese is never served with anything but tagliatelle, but I guess opinions differ. Pasta as a side dish is ambiguous -- on Italian menus it's the second course, with the main dish the third.

Incidentally, all those complaining about TASED should read Z's explanation of how he derived the answer. KAC was careful to put those little hints into the clue.

@wanderlust, was that outfitter Bill Rom in Ely? Our scout troop and explorer post took canoe trips arranged by them every other year; I've always wanted to go back, but not sure we could handle it now.

People in Hawai'i like to argue that our old friend Mauna Kea is actually the highest volcano (and highest mountain) because it rises from the bottom of the ocean, and is therefore about 40,000 feet. Bogus argument, but they enjoy it.

JC66 11:21 AM  

Medium Saturday for me. Like others, loved the PARENTHESIS clue.


@GILL I

HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!! 🎈🎊 🎉



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Whatsername 11:21 AM  

Way out of my league today. To use OFL’s terms, I definitely got the tough part but did not find it the least bit delightful. Downright impossible for me without cheating on the trivia and proper names.

The ORIOLE was a bright spot as I sit snowed in for the third day. I’m looking forward to seeing those delightful visitors to my back yard in a few months. A tip if you’re wanting to attract them . . . tie some orange cloth streamers to the branches of your trees. I also take some bright orange masking tape and put big X’s on the tops of my deck railings. Six weeks to Spring!

Liveprof 11:22 AM  

Regarding 40A: "Live on water, say." On Jewish fast days water is proscribed as well. Parents are also forbidden from foisting rich foods on their children.

My favorite clue today was "Archetypal bossypants." Wow.

Teedmn 11:22 AM  

@Gill I, have a wonderful birthday day!

Frantic Sloth 11:23 AM  

I'll be gone again today, but had to say two things:

@GILL ¡Feliz Cumpleaños, mi amiga! I will raise a glass (or 12) in your honor today. ❤️

@Z 814am 🤣 and thanks for the satellite cleanup. Curiosity drove me to yesterday's late comments. You were too kind. How obnoxious!

Boomer 11:30 AM  

I loved BYE BYE BIRDIE but for songs like "Kids" and "Ed Sullivan", not the annoying lovesong to Conrad. I thought it was a fun send-up of Elvis Presley, who had (also) been drafted into the army.

Joseph Michael 11:30 AM  

Kameron must have been hungry when he constructed this puzzle. Unfortunately. his menu is quite different from mine. BIBIMBAP? AREPAS? I even tanked on BANANA CREAM thinking for some reason that the pie might be filled with banana bread (hi, @Nancy).

Great clues for NERUDA, PARENTHESIS, PAINT GUN, and PRICE. Also loved SPRAY ON TANS, SNOOKUMS, PUDDY TAT, and PETTY TYRANT.

But this grid also has too many LOUSY CRUDS for my taste. Sorry I’m not up on “The Bachelor,” Latin legalese, Italian bridges, Russian writers, DMX hit singles, or supernova remnants. Yes, I admit it. I thought Crab NEBULA was something you eat.

True Grits 11:32 AM  

Hmmm. SPRAY ON TANS crossing PETTY TYRANT? Is there a theme here?

Conrad 11:39 AM  


@Nancy, Bye Bye Birdie was a good show in its time, but it hasn't aged well. The song "We Love You Conrad" is vapid, but intentionally so. The show was a satire on teens and teen fads of the time (Conrad Birdie = Elvis Presley, in case that wasn't obvious). Teens and fads are still with us, but "One Last Kiss" doesn't play well in the time of TikTok and Insta. And "What the heck is an Ed Sullivan anyway?"

beverly c 11:39 AM  

This puzzle had me worried for a bit, especially in the NE. I had no idea about ADLITEM and I wanted hush PUPPYS (Still do. Yum!) for AREPAS, which I don’t know. And it took forever to see DEADLY. Very nice. Finally things opened up and AREPAS was a matter of vowel testing.

PACKEDHOUSE AND PETTYTYRANT were satisfying to suss out. PLANET too. Enjoyed this one.

beverly c 11:47 AM  

I like how the hot stone bibimbap bowl keeps making new bits of rice crunchy after you stir. Tasty and fun to eat.

Z 11:47 AM  

@True Grits - 👍🏽

@Gill I - 🎂🎂

@Frantic Sloth - 🍷🍹🍸🍺🥃

egsforbreakfast 11:52 AM  

I loved to see two of my favorite dishes crossing. BIBIMBAP and Crab NEBULA. (Start with one large Alaskan King Crab. Vigorously roll it thinner and thinner with a rolling pin until it forms a disc that is several light years in diameter. Sprinkle with a generous amount of glitter. Serve with a chilled Giant Sky Marlborough Sauvignon Blanc).

@Gill I. Happy Birthday!

@Roo. I think that the result of the silent but DEADLY deed to which you refer might be A REAR UG.

Great puzzle. More or less my average Saturday time, but I felt like I was sweating bullets to get there. Thanks, KAC.

JD 11:59 AM  

NE corner. Neruda alone would be Deadly if you hadn't heard of him, but I at least have. Probably forty years ago in a lit class, so it took a while for the fog to clear. Really tough was Ad Litem, Arepas, and Puddytat, the corner was where I just kept throwing in letters and trying. Last time the NYT puzz used Ad Litem was 1967. It will probably be back on Monday.

We had Bibimbap less than two months ago so it was top of mind. Bete Noire, French, black beast. I've heard it and knew it meant black (something bad … as in his bete noire) but didn't know the translation of Bete. Still liking Google translate despite its critics. Now we know these things and can remember them.

I've worked for a Petty Tyrant. We didn't think of him as Mr. Bossypants (a word I've only heard as in Miss Bossypants as in Tina Fey's book, because ya know … women). Our descriptions for the Petty Tyrant were somewhat coarser.

I accept Jeff Chen's suggestion that "not every puzzle will be for you." Kameron Austin Collins' puzzles usually aren't. But this one I think had to do with my own shortcomings.

On the bright side ... Happpy Birthdayyy Dear Gill! 🎵

Newboy 12:05 PM  

@wanderlust is not rocking the canoe when he recalls the solitude of a paddle with silent company. Never made it to Boundary, but enjoyed Canadian wonder from the front seat gliding over the Bowren Lakes chain.

Nancy 12:10 PM  

@GILL -- Take a sneak peak at your email, birthday girl.

@Zex and @jberg -- I hadn't checked that "Rules of pasta, according to the Italians" link until I saw jberg's comment. I clicked the link with some trepidation: suppose they tell me I'm not allowed to do what I've been doing for the last three months? But, whew, they didn't say a word about it.

Here's an item at the Lex Restaurant:
Fusilli with Mozzarella, Eggplant and Plum Tomato Sauce

And here's my problem. I don't like Fusilli. I find it sort of dense and yeast-y. So for years I didn't order the dish, even though I love the rest of the ingredients. Then, one day I felt like pasta but wanted something lighter than Bolognese, lighter then Carbonara, lighter than Ravioli. If only I could get that eggplant pasta dish with spaghetti or linguini or any of the long pastas.

Well, I could, of course. All I had to do was ask for it. Same price. No one considered it a problem. And I'm happy to know that the Italians aren't laughing at me behind my back. Though even if they were, I'd still order my own inspired improvement of a dish.

Anonymous 12:16 PM  

got BIBIMBAP from recent re-runs of Alton Brown and Anthony Bourdain. otherwise a 'who cares' DNF.

Nancy 12:29 PM  

@Conrad -- I know full well that "Birdie" was a send-up of its era and a spoof of Elvis in particular. I am actually from that era and Elvis gyrated his way into my consciousness at a time when a great many young girls of my age were swooning over him. (I was not among them: I was too busy swooning over Sinatra.)

Nor can I agree with you that "Birdie" was a good show of its era. I would argue that it was never a good show. Just as the axiom is that you can't satirize something boring by writing a parody that's itself boring, you also can't satirize vapidity by writing a parody that's vapid. Now it may not be easy to portray vapidity in a way that's colorful and engaging, but that's the writer's challenge.

What? 12:37 PM  

Making Saturdays hard by including trivia (ADLITEM, BIBIBAP, RYDERS, Shreck) is intellectual laziness.

Whatsername 12:43 PM  

@GILL: Many happy returns dear amiga. I will tip a glass in your honor. Enjoy your day.

I always thought Bye Bye Birdie was like fingernails on a chalkboard. 😬

A 12:50 PM  

@GILL I. Happy Birthday! You share it with CORY Wells of Three Dog NIght, so Celebrate!

I think I’m the wrong age for the ppp in this one. CONRAD/BECCA/PLANET/RYDERS were WOEs one and all. So my first thoughts for the end-of-year memo were “bonus” and “party.” Did get the AREA and GATEWAY’D RUGs. Hand up for LOWly and “Home of music.”

Really wanted something along the line of “corpses” for the crime show extras. Also some kind of helicopterish mom paReNT for the TYRANT.

Hated the clue for TASED, but that was the only answer I could come up with, following much the same mental path as @Z at 10:19.

On the bright side, PUDDYTAT made it a SURE BET I’d have a smile on my face even if I couldn’t break the CODE.

And another vote for “The right one can produce a smile” for COTY.

So maybe not in my wheelHOUSE but the good stuff was worth cheating for - thanks, KAC! I’ll study for your next test, SNOOKUMS.

mathgent 12:58 PM  

Happy Birthday, Gill! You're my fancy tickle.

My favorite comments this morning.

RooMonster (9:45)
bocamp (11:06)

Sixthstone 1:05 PM  

Hardest puzzle I've seen in a long time. Too many obscure or old PPP.

Masked and Anonymous 1:11 PM  

Tough one, at our house. Lost many nanoseconds, lookin stuff up. AREPAS/ADLITEM, f'rinstance. But, M&A is tryin hard not to get his PONTEs all wadded up into a knot, just becuz he had to learn some new stuff.

On the other hand, did get BANANACREAM [M&A pie fave] off just a coupla letters.
Wanted CLOGS or CLOTS, before CRUDS. Disgustin. Better clue: {The new C in RNC??}.

staff weeject pick, of only 8 choices: DIY. Was essential, to preserve AREPAS/ADLITEM, I reckon. [snort]

Quad Jaws of Themelessness. Cool, even tho they did sorta end up isolatin the NW & SE corners a bit. Fortunately, I eventually remembered CONRAD (but alas, not BIBIMBAP), in the openin NW mini-rodeo.

Happy B'day, @GILL I. Spray some bubbly on everybody at the party, for m&e.

Thanx for the NERUDA NEBULA of challenges, Mr. Collins dude. Primo-subtle FAST clue, btw.

Masked & Anonymo8Us


**gruntz**

Z 1:22 PM  

I think we’ve found the DJ for @Gill I’s birthday party at Z’s Placebo and Tentacle, room at the bar if you can’t be seated.

Gary Jugert 1:23 PM  

NAYS:
CONRAD... Um, 1963 movie?
AREPAS... Who knows this?
BIBIMBAP... Hey Google.
TASED... Max Shrek (who?)
LOGIA... Grew up in a Nazarene chuch. Never mentioned.
EDUARD... Hard to keep track of pornographers.
RYDERS... It's rap. They can't spell.
PRECODE... If you say so.
BECCA... Bachelorette? (Constructors watch this?)
CRUDS... Not a thing.
BEENE... Fashion. Whatever.
AD LITEM... Oh Latin obscuris. Yay.

YAYS:
AREA RUG, NERUDA, BANANA CREAM, PETTY TYRANT, NOGGIN, SNOOKUMS, NEBULA, PAINT GUN, GATEWAY DRUG, PARENTHESIS, SPRAY ON TANS, PUDDY TAT.

cmurthi 1:26 PM  

Preface: I’m a very competent cryptic crossword solver. Started these in Covid times, having too much time. After hate solving a while, I have a sincere question for y’all. I find it unbelievable that anyone knows say both Bachelor stars and obscure Broadway stars, Dickens and DMX, unimportant fashionistas, hordes of sports semi-stars and teams and can noodle out 15 letter word (words as unlike in cryptics, you don’t get letter counts) clued as “Awww”, poor cryptic clues (thanks for the ?) and , worst of all, multiple letters in a box.

So, do y’all really not get help…Google that 1923 Nobel winner or use reveal letter? If not, kudos to you and I will slink back and lick my wounds in crypticland.

I’ll end by saying the level of anal-ity displayed by those commenting on black square positioning, disastrous word crosses and Rex’s grumbles about not knowing fairly well known words is extremely entertaining.

Written as one who stops on Thur.

Carola 1:28 PM  

@Gill I. - Happy Birthday!

okanaganer 1:30 PM  

KAC puzzles are always good; sometimes too many names I don't know, but this was great. I did however finish with an error: CORI crossing RIDERS. Unlike Rex, I know nothing of US Senators (except I know from many clues there are 100 of them).

BIBIMBAP again... I couldn't resist, so I did a Google search and there's a restaurant only an hour's drive away that has a whole section of them in its menu! Sounds yummy.

[SB yd: 11:40 to pg & finished at 0. td: 7:50 to pg; will try to get QB later on. It's a sunny day!]

Anonymous 1:33 PM  

Happy birthday Gill!
Hope someone gets you a Talisker.

Anonymous 1:47 PM  

I’m all for including lowbrow entertainment but BECCA from “The Bachelor” and “The Bachelorette” ? C’mon man.

nyc_lo 1:51 PM  

A tough one for me, but with generally outstanding fill, so it felt worthwhile. My only complaint was my least favorite answer ever, NTEST, which reeks no matter what letter you put in front. Falls under the category of “things no one has said, ever.” But it’s unfortunately firmly entrenched in crosswordese, so we have to allow it, apparently. Apart from that, really good stuff.

sixtyni yogini 2:04 PM  

Well, I loved the BIBIMBAP clue and many of the others!
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But this one was unusually difficult for YT. Mood? Brain inflexible day? Dunno.

Haha, can’t say I loved it - but can say I respect it! 😂
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Son Volt 2:31 PM  

@pablo 7:26a - my first look at it brought forth the noun form INNKEEP with a big rejection. Not sure how it doesn’t fit.

@Gill - and many more. I have a bottle of Schramsberg chilling for my SNOOKUMS birthday - care to join?

Another Anon 2:45 PM  

Talk about a lucky strike!

Daily Dordle #0012 2&1/7
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pmdm 2:46 PM  

If, after solving a puzzle (or giving up on it), I answer the question "Do I care?" and respond "no," I consider the puzzle to be a failure in my judgment. Today was one of those days. I think I am becoming more negative as time progresses. And, unlike some, I do not blame that on the puzzles themselves or the editors.

Happy to see some, including Sharp, took pleasure in the puzzle. Sorry, not me.

Unknown 3:16 PM  

@cmurthi

Thank you! "anal-ity" You've nailed it.
Describes this site (and several frequent posters) pretty much to a T. Not a criticism, merely an observation. The never-ending back and forth bickering between Z and Anonymous is almost worth the price of admission.

Yes, sometimes there is a level of esoterica in the puzzles that can be challenging, and oftentimes it takes an educated guess to fill in the proper letter. I've just started delving into the cryptics, and find them (1) much more engaging; (2) super hard but (3) funny at times, and (4) always makes me happy when I suss out a clue. I'm still looking for a site that is suitable for newbies.

pabloinnh 3:25 PM  

Oye GILL I Feliz Cumpleanos, y muchos mas!

The commentariat is so excited that we're staging the Olympic Games in your honor.

De nada.

Joe Dipinto 3:35 PM  

"Con" you dig it?

CON CONRAD won the first Best Song Oscar in 1934 for writing...
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..."The CONtinental"

Anoa Bob 3:55 PM  

I know from the cards and letters that I have been getting that some of yous in Commentaristan are doubtful that the NYTXW is running a meta of repeating words and phrases from one puzzle to the next. Today, I think, should convinced even the most hardened skeptic.

How often would we expect to see a word like BIBIMBAP in a puzzle? Maybe once ever ten years? Twenty years? That's not exactly a grid fill friendly eight letter sequence to work into a puzzle so there must be some overarching reason to do so. And now we've seen it in two puzzles separated only by a few weeks, on 12/17/21 and today! Repetition meta, QED.

When I first checked out the NYT xword specs at cruciverb.com back around 2008 or so, the fill quality desiderata covered such things as history, science, geography, literature and so on, that would test solvers' breadth and depth of knowledge.

Nowadays constructors are asked to fill their grids with "lively words, well-known names and fresh phrases", "a variety of cultural reference points" and "diversity in cultural references". The "Batman Returns" clue for TASED (20A) is a prime example of that pop culture trend, seems to me. To be expected I suppose as part of the effort to attract a much wider solver base.

Don't mean to demean this puzzle because there was lots to like in it. I did notice, however, that there were a number of words that needed some help to fill their slots: CABLE, AREPA, PERP, BETE, REND, CRUD, BUST, BOND, TENSE and NTEST. POC (plural of convenience) to the rescue!

Pondie 3:59 PM  

@Unknown, I got into cryptics about 5 years ago. Once a month, the WSJ has a cryptic by Cox & Rathvon ("Hex") for its Sat. variety puzzle. Puzzles are free online: https://www.wsj.com/news/puzzle. This site has all their WSJ cryptics: http://www.chall.us/hex/hex_puzzles.html.

Wanderlust 4:17 PM  

No, it was Doug Jordan’s Outdoor Adventures. Sadly, Doug (my boss that summer) has passed away, and the place no longer exists.

Another Anon 4:20 PM  

It's time for me to confess. My Dordle report (2:45) is a fraud. Here's what happened. I did the Dordle early this morning. I went back later to check it and it was blank. Out of curiosity I entered one of the words and it stuck. Thinking it was April 1st, I posted my "result". To do penance I will watch Bye Bye Birdie.

Anonymous 4:40 PM  

@pmdm/2:46

While I mostly agree, I've just about finished a compendium book of Sundays from the late 90s early 00s, and they're way nastier. If only because quip/quote drives a puzzle about once a month. But paltry rebi. Not sure if the trade is worth it.

Z 5:38 PM  

@cmurthi - See my 10:19 post for one example for how to suss out a pop culture clue you don’t know. Here’s how the NW corner went for me (an easy corner despite not knowing CONRAD nor, really, BIBIMBAP). First answer was AREA RUG from recognizing that “throw” can be a synonym for a rug. No idea on 1D but the R in AREA RUG suggested that ORIOLE might be the bird, the E suggested NEBULA to me, and DUB seemed highly likely for the clue. I then easily filled in SEA and ELLE, confirming ORIOLE and NEBULA. LOUSY fit the letters already there but I had to think a few seconds to figure out how it fit the clue. CONRAD looked like it might fit the letters I already had. Trying that C finally showing me CABLE, and then how RAISE fit the clue clicked in. This gave me BIBI-B- -. I needed to work out the ARMY clue, but then I vaguely remembered that BIBIMB- ended with AP, although I was far from certain of those two letters until the very end.
From what I’ve seen, cryptics involve a different skill set to solve, with only a few overlapping skills. Sort of like, say, rugby and football.
I should add that as recently as 2015 I would have had to resort to Uncle Google to solve this. I’ve developed solving skills the way one does, practice, especially practice with puzzles that were too hard for me.

Joaquin 5:39 PM  

Once again, I felt like Omar Khayyam's younger brother Whataschmu Khayyam.

I read "Bye Bye Birdie" and my brain said "Bird Cage (La Cage Aux Folles)." So, yeah, that slowed me down just a bit!

Agree with @Mathgent - PERPS aren't extras, they're crime show stars (or at least important enough not to be cast from extras).

And most importantly - Happy Birthday, Gill! Your presence brightens this blog.

Chip Hilton 6:13 PM  

Like a couple thousand other high school kids back in the 60’s, 70’s, and even ‘80’s, I played the Dick Van Dyke roll in our school’s production of “Bye Bye Birdie”. I agree with @Nancy - it’s really not a great show, but at least the play was better than the movie. The film was so silly and annoying, plus, they cut what was, to me, the best song from the play’s score, “Talk to Me”. Oh, well . . .

Tough Saturday puzzle. I somehow slogged through (making a couple of very lucky guesses up in the NE) with only one error. A shame, too, because it came on the gloriously clued PARENTHESeS. So careless.

Anonymous 8:42 PM  

Not sure if it’s possible but I think Zex’s puzzle analysis may be more boring than Z’s Wordle analysis.

LateSolver 8:47 PM  

No chance at all for me. Too many names and literary references that I didn't know. I got GATEWAYDRUG and BIBIMBAP early, but that never helped me in the NW. With AREPAS, NERUDA, and ADLITEM I had no chance in the NE either. After reading many of the other answers, I may have persevered, but I already had a few wrong guesses so probably not. Maybe I should start the Saturday earlier in the day, and certainly before a second glass of wine :-)

RooMonster 11:01 PM  

@cmurthi 1:26
I usually tell on here what I needed to Goog (my shorthand for Google) to be able to get un-stuck. I really do try to suss out what I can, but I get antsy after a few minutes of rereading clues and blank staring. I try to Goog names I don't know, and limit myself to a word a section.

On stupidly tough puzs, I use the Check Puzzle feature to ferret out the wrongness.

And I happen to like counting and noticing patterns of the Blockers (black squares). 😁🤪

RooMonster Somewhat Annoying Guy

Anoa Bob 12:02 AM  

I missed one: SPRAY ON TAN.

cmurthi 1:16 AM  

Easy https://simplydailypuzzles.com/daily-cryptic/ . The phone app Learn Cryptic Crosswords is a few $ and we’ll worth it.

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Bob 1:16 AM  

NTESTS was complete garbage fill :)

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Anonymous 11:34 PM  

That was a bit more than a mere tasing. I kept trying to fit TOAST in there

Diana, LIW 11:34 AM  

So many names/words I simply didn't know - I'm pretty satisfied with my performance with the rest of the puzzle. Pretty much filled in the NW and SE w/o any huge problems. Then there was NERUDA, AREPAS, and LOGIA as used.

Diana, Lady-in-Waiting for Crosswords

Anonymous 1:04 PM  

"Obscure garbage" is right on, although"pisser infestation" nails it.

Burma Shave 1:40 PM  

SUREBET, FAST ACT

BECCA, you're a DEADLY PUDDYTAT,
SNOOKUMS, you have this HOUSE rockin'.
With PAINTed face and FAKED BUSTS like that
I'll SAYYES to LOUSY NOGGIN.

--- EDUARD CONRAD PRICE

thefogman 2:54 PM  

Got burned on the 43D-51A crossing. Had I instead of Y for RYDERS-CORY. Not fair. Aside from that, it was a pretty decent Saturday puzzle.

rondo 3:21 PM  

I filled in all the corners first before anything really showed up in the middle. Wrote over scUmS to get CRUDS. Knew very few of the proper nouns right off. Asked the missus about EDUARD Limonov, so I suppose that gets me flagged for cheating. Those double Utahs on the sides make a nice design. Appropriately tough I thought

leftcoaster 5:43 PM  

Tough but fair Saturday.

SE was easy, but not easy enough elsewhere. Got about 3/4 of the grid. Not a good solve, but not all that LOUSY either.

Segue...I’ve liked BANANA CREAM pie since I was a little kid.

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