Protection of a protagonist for narrative purposes in slang / SAT 5-29-21 / Rum-soaked treats / Source of Vibranium in the Marvel universe / Exclamation popularized by Die Hard / Four-time Emmy winner from Coney Island

Saturday, May 29, 2021

Constructor: Adam Aaronson

Relative difficulty: Medium


THEME: none 

Word of the Day: GARI (49A: Ginger at sushi bar) —
A type of Japanese pickle (tsukemono) made from thinly sliced ginger. The ginger strips are pickled in salt and are then pickled again in sweet vinegar. Gari has a natural pink color from the ginger root itself. It is available in Asian markets and it is most often served between sushi dishes. Gari should not be confused with beni shoga, which is another type of pickled ginger and is one that is not served with sushi. (recipetips.com)
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This was grueling at first, but at first it was 5 am and I'd been awake all of 15 minutes, so ... on a Saturday, probably not so unusual to feel this way at the start of the puzzle, given the circumstances. NW wasn't falling because PRIDE didn't have any "abbr." indication in the clue (1D: Annual June celebration). So annoying. PRIDE is decidedly a shortening, and clues should indicate that or else they are cheap and stupid. Also, here's the thing ... is this referring to the entirety of PRIDE month (June), or the annual PRIDE march in NYC (June 27), or what? Dunno. I think the clue is referring specifically to the NYC march, or maybe any PRIDE march, and not to the month as a whole (though at first I thought the month itself was the "celebration"). but exactly when and how long and in what context something called PRIDE occurs probably varies a lot from place to place. PRIDE events happen all month long, all over the world. I love the LBGT+ clue on PRIDE—just write a clue that indicates that we're dealing w/ a colloquial shortening and we're good. It's not hard! Here: [Annual June celebration in NYC]. That's it. Done. Perfect. By adding "in NYC," you've a. clearly indicated that it's a specific event that you are referring to, and b. clearly indicated that the answer is an abbr. And it only took five extra letters. Magic. (It's not magic)


Never heard of PLOT ARMOR so what was probably enjoyable to some was just a shrug to me (1A: Protection of a protagonist for narrative purposes, in slang). Stupid grad school, awarded me a Ph.D. in literature but never taught me the term PLOT ARMOR. Thanks a lot, UM! So yeah, waffled around up there, with little success. Then somehow glommed onto the "A" in MEA and got ATLANTA and started working on the SE, but again, nowhere. Speaking of the SE, that's the site of my one major problem with this puzzle: GARI crossing "YIPPEE-KI-YAY!" (24D: Exclamation popularized by "Die Hard"). About GARI: this is the first I'm hearing of it. Now, that's fine. New-to-me term, cool. But you have to understand that as sushi-related terms go, this one is much less well known than the others, so much so that it isn't even in the merriam-webster.com dictionary. NORI, that's there. WASABI, there. GARI, nope. And the wikipedia page for GARI is such a hot mess of bad writing and improper citation that I couldn't even use it in the Word of the Day definition, above. Go ahead and use GARI if you like—I'm actually happy to learn the term for the thing I've been eating all this time—but Every Cross Must Be Unassailable when you're dealing with new / uncommon / foreign words like this. And the "I" in "YIPPEE-KI-YAY!"!? That is not something I'd want anywhere near GARI. I've never had occasion to have to spell that stupid exclamation, and this spelling seems counterintuitive in many ways. "KI" makes what sound now? I would pronounce "KI" like the common English word "key." Also, when I hear the Bruce Willis exclamation in my head, I hear the end as "chi" (like the Greek letter) and "a" (like ... the letter). "KI-YAY" just doesn't reflect what's going on in my ears. In the end, "I" was the only good guess there, but the stupid spelling of that exclamation coupled with the unknownness of GARI really made that part awful to experience. Whereas if you'd decoupled these answers, there's a good chance that neither one would've bothered me at all. 


After the struggles in the NW and SE, I used the "Y" from YIPPEE to start working on the NE, and that fell much more easily. SW went down without much struggle either. So the puzzle was Hard-Easy in real time, but overall that makes it Medium, I guess. Mistakes: URGE before SPUR, EXES before SECT, STEADYCAM before STEAD-I-CAM or however it's punctuated (it's actually just one word). Hot Chelle RAE is a step up from the ridiculous Canadian ambassador to the U.N. RAE we got yesterday, but only a step (27A: Hot Chelle ___, rock group with the 2011 hit "Tonight Tonight"). 2011 was a while ago now (they haven't charted since). Again, RAE is crosswordese. It just is. No clue will fix that. Stick to familiar cluing byways and Move It Along. No one wants to struggle with your RAE clue. Crosswordese isn't always bad, though. Not sure where I'd be if ASP ERR ABET MEA ACAI and PSI hadn't been there to give me a boost. Slightly proud that I got PSI instantly from that clue, since I think it's designed to make you think of ECON, not air (45A: Inflation stat, for short) (I actually think the "for short" is redundant here, since "stat" is already an abbr.). Only thing I really love today is "AND YOU ARE ...?" But aside from the GARI / KI bit, nothing was terribly irksome. Overall, an OK Saturday experience.

Signed, Rex Parker, King of CrossWorld 

P.S. MANBUN = [Bunch of hipsters?] because if a "hipster" (???) wears his hair in a "bunch" on top of his head, that's what it's called. Not a fan of the derisive "hipster" here. 

P.P.S. PASYSTEMS = P.A. SYSTEMS, as in Public Address Systems (57A: Lines of communication in schools?). That one was hard to parse.

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126 comments:

Lewis 6:46 AM  

Saturday is when you clear space and time, put the world aside, get on your work clothes, plunge in, and chisel away, wiping sweat from your brow, chisel some more, and just keep at it, every once in a while receiving a gift, but mostly earning paltry space for effort expended. And you keep at it and at it until at some point, ideally, clouds clear and you’re patching in rogue spaces until there are none left.

Those hard workouts keep you sharp and humble and are part of the ardent solver’s gig. You don’t like them but you love them at the same time, and you actually love them more than you don’t like them, and you are grateful for them, and you want them, and they don’t always come along, and you’re grateful when they do.

One did today, and for it I’m supremely grateful. Thank you, Adam.

OffTheGrid 6:59 AM  

1D, PRIDE, practically filled itself in. I have no idea why @Rex found this so difficult and thought the clue should be expanded to help him. June is PRIDE month. It's celebrated. It doesn't get much simpler than that.

Anonymous 7:01 AM  

Just watched the Rickman/Willis clip early this morning for no apparent reason, so Yippee Ki Yay was a gimme. Used to be in production so the spelling of Steadicam was a gimme as well. An enjoyable Saturday solve.

Brian M 7:12 AM  

Well, gari is also a staple food in Nigeria made from ground up dried cassava root. Pretty close on the obscure scale to the Japanese picled ginger.

Z 7:26 AM  

Well, no Rex. If you parse it YIPPEE KaY AY an A sort of makes sense and GARa for a transliterated word I have never heard of looked just fine, so I wasn’t the only good guess there. A DNF-FND here (that’s “did not finish because of a friggin’ natick, dammit”).

Other than that the puzzle was mostly meh. Was wondering about a couple of things Rex wrote. I don’t know if PRIDE is an abbreviation here. I also don’t know why he thought “hipster” is derisive in the clue (I do like my son’s response to “MANBUN,” “I don’t understand why a bun has to have a gender” - Yes, that son denies it but he is the hipster poster child and has been since 7th grade). “Hipster” can be used derisively, but that is hardly its exclusive use. I guess if hipsters bother you that says as much about you as about hipsters. Although, tbf, it really sounded yesterday like it was craft beer hipsters who came up with yesterday’s 1A, and for that they should be shamed.

Like Rex, PLOT ARMOR is a new term to me but one I like. There’s a whole little running joke that pops up in different sci fi humor contexts about how bad Storm Trooper’s aim is. You’ll see it in other films and shows, too. The bad guys fire 100 shots and at worst wing the good guy, who then takes out all the bad guys with one shot. Why do the bad guys all miss? Because Bond has PLOT ARMOR! Makes perfect sense as a term.

Didn’t ANDY OUARE have a role in Hamilton? Is it true that you can plant PASY STEMS and a new PASY will grow? And I’m absolutely certain that BLUE GREEN paint is the new favorite color of Crossworld.

pabloinnh 7:30 AM  

Didn't know that two thirds of a Double Gulp was WATER, but it didn't surprise me, until it led nowhere and my clever realization was just FALSEHOPE. Oops. OTOH, PLOTARMOR didn't jump onto the page either, but at least I learned something there.

Was trying to think of a good way to use WHEN IS IT as a cue, like, I'm supposed to sit down, WHEN IS IT?, Answer--WHEN I SIT. Mildly amusing.

Put in MES for the Latin possessive, because French was derived from Latin and also I wasn't thinking. That led to STL, making STLOUIS the world's busiest airport, which seemed unlikely, but I fixed that eventually.

Nice misdirect with Montana for NINER, and AIRLEAKS has the faint smell of green paint, but otherwise just about the right amount of crunch for a Saturday. I bet we haven't seen the last of GARI either.

Thanks for the fun, AA. As Always.

Frantic Sloth 7:32 AM  


Well, hello there, Fun Fridee puzzle! Missed you yesterday. But, thanks for chippering up my Saturdee. 😊

Really liked a lot: PLOTARMOR, TIDEPOOL, MANBUN (that's a love to hate scenario), and my favorite, ANDYOUARE. I have a feeling I won't be alone on that.

Good guess by me on how to spell YIPPEEKIYAY because I didn't know GARI. Wonder if anyone else had the same issue...

One nit:

Hate hate hated the pairing of CIAO and "peace" because no. Just...no. And don't. Just...don't. Stop it and get outta here with that nonsense.

Good day.

🧠🧠.5
🎉🎉🎉.75

Loren Muse Smith 7:33 AM  

I really liked this one. So many clever misdirects setting traps I fell right into:

“water” before LITER (2/3 of a Gulp drink) Hi, @pabloinnh
“hip” before SIS (start of a cheer)
“flag” before WILT (lose vigor)
“adios. . . adieu” before PEACE (ciao)
“blast” before ALERT (email ___)
“MTG” before ASP (spreader of venom)
“Q back” before NINER (Montana, informally)

Southwest was by far the hardest, but when I finally realized that nobody was gonna keep Alicia from her feelings, I sorted it all out.

“Rum-soaked treats” is redundant.

PASY STEMS looks like where the aphid would hang out and carry out his honeydew business. Morming, Rex.

Loved the clue for WENT, though was like has pretty much eclipsed it. And coming on strong is was all. These latter two do even more semantic work because they can signify not only what was spoken, but also maybe just what was thought.

She gave me a mean look, and I went What is your problem? (definitely uttered)
She gave me a mean look, and I was like What is your problem? (maybe uttered, maybe thought)
She gave me a mean look, and I was all What is your problem? (maybe uttered, maybe thought)

Imfromjersey 7:43 AM  

DNF - got Naticked by GARI and YIPEEKIYAY, I had YIPPEEKAYAY, which phonetically seems correct too.
Never heard of GARI at all. Frustrating.

Ellen C 7:44 AM  
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A Moderator 7:51 AM  

Please don’t include Mini Puzzle Spoilers or at least give a spoiler alert.

Conrad 7:59 AM  

@A Moderator: Thank you!!

GILL I. 8:13 AM  

I looked at 1A and I did my holy enchilada on a taco dance. Move right along. BABAS my first entry because I know my rum-soaked treats. Got that whole upper east side done. YEAGER didn't fool me.
Cheated on PLOT ARMOR because I was getting mad and I wanted to get a life and I was tired of looking at the yeast rise in my bread. My friend, RHEA popped in; PRIDE sorta did but I really wanted a parade or something. Misspelled that YIPPE thing, so like some of you, my ginger was a GARA.
Next cheat (but last one) was WAKANDA because Vibranium could be headache medicine for all I knew.
Move along again......
Get to the 37D. guess what, folks? ATLANA is no longer the world's busiest airport. They've been usurped by one I can't spell in China. How about that?
I was doing too many HUH'S on this puzzle. PEACE for ciao? My honeydew is a melon. AND YOU ARE DOPES? NOONE. I am the MASTHEAD of a MAN BUN.
My PEKE NIP runneth over.

Son Volt 8:15 AM  

Liked it for the most part. Didn’t know PLOT ARMOR but the crosses were fair. When did Cheers last show air? Liked the SW corner and the clue for MANBUN and YEAGER.

Not sure I see Rex’s issue with PRIDE - works well as is. Thought WHEN IS IT was awkward after it fit.

24d is a little misleading. Die Hard made famous YIPEE KI YAY mother fucker. The appended profanity was the highlight.

Decent solve for a cold, rainy Memorial Day Saturday.

Lobster11 8:21 AM  

I'm proud to say that I guessed correctly on the last letter of GARI. It just looked right-er than GARa in the context of sushI, wasabI, ahI, mahI, etc. Do I win the internet for the day?

SouthsideJohnny 8:27 AM  

Like many of us, PLOT ARMOR was a WOE (I never heard of BABAS either, lol), so I knew this one was going to require some effort, which of course it did.

Lots of Dark Matter (answers that can only be discerned from the clue by a very small percentage of solvers, or occasionally by none at all):
WAKANDA
MEA
PEKE
LOKI
GARI

Enjoyed the cluing for SHELF, RIDE SHARE, NINER and YEAGER (and two of those are PPP !).

Got a chuckle out of Rex perseverating about whether PRIDE is, or should be an abbreviation. Man, when that dude gets an idea in his head, it sure does roll around in there and cause all kinds of mischief for him (full disclosure - Latin words in English-language crosswords have the same effect on me).

I agree with LMS - “Rum-soaked treats” is definitely a redundancy.

Hungry Mother 8:39 AM  

My usual Saturday slog was uplifted by the Die Hard reference. Of course, hearing it and saying it are different from spelling it, so it took a bit of twiddling there. i always say “tidal pool”, but I guess I had it wrong?

Frantic Sloth 8:49 AM  

Again, another point Rex makes (about the PRIDE clue) that gives a voice to my inchoate sensibilities. He use the good words when he talk it. All this despite dropping it in semi-immediately. Of course, I'm still an unwoke survivor of "Gay PRIDE", so that might explain a lot, too.
Also, "No one wants to struggle with your RAE clue" tickles me pink.

@Z 726am See my first comment (re: BEERBAR) yesterday for hipster differentiation - e.g. "hipster doofus". Thank you, Elaine Benes.

@Lobster11 821am Uh...nope. 😉

MsCarrera 9:01 AM  

Will someone please explain why an aphid is a source of honeydew? I just don't get it. Thank you!

Granolasusan 9:13 AM  

I learned PLOTARMOR in one of the early Boswords puzzles this winter. And Yippiekiyay is totally the common spelling for that term....ask me how many Die Hard internet rabbit holes I have been down!

Z 9:14 AM  

@pabloinnh - apparently you and Muse think alike.

@Muse - I was all “What is she saying” and then you gave three perfect examples and it all made sense.

@Son Volt - Good observation on YIPPEE-KI-YAY being a partial.

@Lobster11 - Well, when you put it that way it makes perfect sense. That’s what I get for only trying to sound out YIPP-KI-YAY and forgetting to spend a couple of precious nanoseconds pondering sushi. Of course, I never ponder sushi.

@Sloth 8:49 - I agreed with your first comment when I read it but then it got washed out by Wisconsin Remembrances and the Hoity-Toity Craft Beer Crowd (I only drink craft beer and I am overly fond of IPA - but boy-howdy we can be every bit as pretentious as winesnobs, coffeesnobs, gourmetfoodsnobs, and WordPlay commenters*).

@Frantic 7:32 - See you on the flip side, Sister. PEACE. 🙏🏽










*I just threw that in because we haven’t had a good Rex v Deb brawl in awhile

Z 9:17 AM  

Honeydew: See definition 1

bocamp 9:17 AM  

Thx Adam for a perfect Sat. puz; just the right amount of resistance. Very enjoyable! :)

Med solve.

Had a bit of luck in the NW (IT DEPENDS, DEEM, ASP) but not enuf to finish it off. Pretty much wandered all over the place looking for footholds. Found what I needed to bring it home. Ended with a lucky guess at the intersection of GARI & YIPPEE KI YAY. Didn't realize it wasn't all one long word, so 'A' was a possibility instead of an 'I', as in K(a)yak.

This was my ideal Sat. puz; challenging, but doable in a reasonable amt of time.

Release Me ~ Engelbert Humperdinck
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yd pg -1

Peace ~ Empathy ~ Kindness to all 🕊

Barbara S. 9:17 AM  

Another toughie for me although not as difficult as yesterday. I had no idea about PLOT ARMOR and ended up with PLOT ActOR, which looked pretty stupid, but I couldn’t quite figure out how to correct it. I also had StiR for SPUR down at 23A (Goad) and FEel for FEAR at 28A (Have a sneaking suspicion), which left me with cHEAtElLMAN as the four-time Emmy winner. “Cheat Ellman”?? Who or what THE HELL is that??? An actor with the dumbest name in all of television? A game show in which you have to break the rules to win? And, by the way, the answers to “Carpet type” and “Bunch of hipsters?” didn’t look so hot either. I went to bed last night with this TANGLY mess still in place, but got up this morning and managed to comb it out. I had Natick trouble at the GARI/YIPPEE KIYAY cross, too, but managed to solve that more quickly than the other disaster area.

I liked ALLIE under BABAS. I liked TIDEPOOLS, RIDESHARE and ODDER. Some day before I’m 90 I know I’ll learn how to spell WAKANDA. BABA and ACAI are Spelling Bee words – always fun to see those. Liked the old-fashioned newspaper office feel of EDITOR-IN-CHIEF yesterday and MASTHEAD today. I briefly had the sTLouis/ATLANTA mix-up, too (hi @pabloinnh). And, Bob RAE, if you do crossword puzzles and read Rex, ignore his description of you as “the ridiculous ambassador to the U.N.” I still love ya!

Today there’s a poem by LEAH GOLDBERG, born May 29, 1911.

PINE
Translated by A.Z. Foreman

Here I will never hear the cuckoo’s call.
Here trees will never wear the shtreimel-snow.
Yet here in the pine’s shade I can hear all
My childhood, brought to life from long ago.

The needles chiming: Once upon a time
“Home” was the word I gave to snow, not sand,
And the brook-fettering ice – a greenish rime
Of my song’s language in a foreign land.

Perhaps the voyaging birds alone who find
Their own route hanging between the sky and earth,
Know how I pine between two lands of birth.

In you I was transplanted, O my pine.
In you I branched into myself and grew
Where disparate landscapes split one root in two.

QUOTER’S NOTE: Leah Goldberg was born and spent her early life in Eastern Europe. She moved to Tel Aviv in 1935 (when in her twenties) and lived there and later in Jerusalem, residing in Israel for the rest of her life.

Suzy 9:19 AM  

Tough Saturday! Thank you, Adam Aaronson! Finally gave in and googled Wakanda and Perlman— not a fan of Marvel comics—
Pearls Before Swine and Frazz are more my style. PA Systems and Steadicam took forever, but all in all, excellent
cluing. 28 D reminded me of me every Saturday morning— full of false hope!

Z 9:21 AM  

BTW - The dictionary lists the earliest usage first, not the most common usage. If you look at the “recent examples” five are the melon, two the stuff deposited on plants. and one for a “honeydew” hairstyle which,…, alrighty then,… I’m guessing a melon like hairstyle, not a fungus like hairstyle.

MsCarrera 9:27 AM  

Thank you Z! Aphid fit the grid, but did not make sense to me.

DeeJay 9:29 AM  

In horticulture, honeydew is another term for aphid excrement.

Photomatte 9:40 AM  

I lived in Tokyo a long time, learned Japanese, love sushi, and have never heard the word Gari before today. I did love the inferred derision for hipsters, however. Hipsters are the new hippies: children of white privilege who think their "alternative" clothing and lifestyle is acceptable camouflage for snobbery.

David Eisner 9:44 AM  

The clue for ACAI ("Fruit rich in antioxidants and vowels") made me laugh, kind of breaking the fourth wall.

JD 9:46 AM  

This one had a joie de vivre that was sort of missing yesterday. Gari and Loki and Spur Spurt. Want to hear a commercial that says, "Ask your doctor about Vibranium."

Might've agreed with Rex on Pride if only he'd Pride flagged the colors on the word the eight times he repeated it. Just in purple, it smacked of a tantrum.

Clever, rewarding cluing in the SE corner on PSI and Sect. But why the ? on PA Systems? It's a line of a communication.
Did you know that ants actually farm Aphids to harvest for their honey dew. It's true. They even wear tiny little coveralls.

Plot Armor was tough because my Armour-clad Knight is jousting while the King sits grasping his Septre. Armor makes bacon.

Knew what was wanted for Yeager but needed my old puzzle partner to speed conjure up a name I know well. His autographed biography is sitting around here somewhere. But it was the SW corner that did me in. Waranda didn't help and wanted Piners to have something to do with Montana. Reminded me of a Wheel of Fortune episode where the letters said Charles _ickens and the guy gleefully yelled out CHARLES PICKENS! Stoopid.

ZGR 9:49 AM  

Within the LGBT community mononymous “Pride” is regularly used to refer to the Sunday (or even the whole weekend) of the parade and it’s surrounding celebrations in June (“That weekend is Pride.”). It is also regularly used in the press as a single word.

RooMonster 9:50 AM  

Hey All !
Well, YIPPEE-KI-YAY M***** F*****. 😁
Add me to the A for I group in that exclamation. Cause GARa looks just as good as GARI. Why do sushi-ists use different words for something? The regular words weren't fancy enough? Or you really don't want to think about eating eel, e.g.? I vote for the latter. So my one-letter DNF in all it's glory.

Anyway, way easier today then YesterPuz. Toughest spots was the I/A conundrum of GARA, and having DOdoS in for DOPES in SW.

PLOT ARMOR a new one for me. Got a kick out of clue for YEAGER. Could he also be "A blast from the past"? Har.

Writeovers, SPouT-SPURT, Wane-WILTS, STEADyCAM-STEADICAM, exes-SECT, think that's it.

So a nice SatThemeless. Brain not as stressed as the FriPuz.

Do you need continence help? IT DEPENDS 😂

Two F's
RooMonster
DarrinV

Anonymous 9:53 AM  

Instantly knew Yippiekiyay but had no idea how to spell it without all the crosses. Husband knew, of course.

PRIDE is a word all by itself for frequent participants e.g., “What are you doing for Pride? “ or “Are you going to Pride tomorrow?” Easy-peasy for me.

My husband has used the phrase “plot armor” to describe his frustration with the Handmaid’s tale about twice per day this week, so it was easy for me.

Even then, it was a tough puzzle today.

Jim in Canada 9:54 AM  

oh, Rex, so much space in your post today complaining about a thing that the puzzle didn't get wrong.
PRIDE is the thing. It's the month-long celebration and it's not a shortened form of anything. It's just PRIDE.

During PRIDE, you might have a pride parade, a pride festival, a pride march, or any number of other events, but in the case of this puzzle, it's not shortening any of those things.

"Got any plans for PRIDE?"
"What PRIDE events are you going to this year?"
and often seen in store windows these days "Celebrate PRIDE at [name of store] with our annual PRIDE sale"

June is PRIDE. The parade you think it's a shortened form of doesn't just happen in NYC, nor does it happen always in June (Calgary, for example, celebrates PRIDE in June, but the parade is in September)

If they had used your "perfect" clue example and added "in NYC" then the answer would've been incorrect.

Rube 10:05 AM  

Have to agree with Rex on the GARI ...KIYAY cross. The only way you could have any idea is that there are a couple of excellent Japanese restaurants in NYC called Sushi of Gari. Othetwise it's a toss up.

pamela spencer 10:10 AM  

Yippee ki yi yay is the refrain from "I'm an old cowhand", made famous by Bing Crosby, etc in old cowboy movies. Play it on youtube for fun.

Carola 10:11 AM  

Do I relish a brutal Saturday puzzle? Before today, I'd have said, "Absolutely!" (see @Lewis 6:46), but this one changed my answer to "IT DEPENDS"....on how much it relies on PPP. I thought that we had an overload today, unfortunately including the two longest Downs, whose crosses would be so useful. I'm with @Rex on the GARI x ...KI... cross: for me that was the straw that shoved the needle into the "Give me a break" zone. There was lots to like, though: FALSE HOPE, STEADICAM, TIDE POOL, MASTHEAD, AND YOU ARE, learning PLOT ARMOR, some very nice misleading clues.

@Barbara S., thank you for the introduction to Leah Goldberg.

Irfan 10:31 AM  

I loved it. I enjoyed YIPPEE KI YAY and MANBUN the most. STEADICAM and PA SYSTEMS a made me go ahh. The rant about the PRIDE clue seems way out of place. It was straightforward so the huge complaint is pretty ridiculous imho. If any clue needed an abbr it should have been “lines of communication in hs?” Since PA is an abbr for Public Address.

Irfan 10:35 AM  

I don’t get all the GARI hate. Is it because you people just haven’t heard of it? One search on google shows plenty of people use the term

ironst8 10:37 AM  

I cruised through this puzzle, cocky as all get-out, until...it just smacked me upside the head. I had seen PLOT ARMOR in a previous puzzle and I loved the term so much that I now use it in daily life. I went around the puzzle clockwise, starting to struggle by the time I hit the SE. (Hand up for having to grapple with the YIPPIE KI YAY / GARI crossing.) And by the time I hit the SW I was kicking myself for forgetting the origin of Vibranium. But what really killed me was not being able to parse [Roger's equivalent] and not knowing enough Latin/crosswordese. I kept trying to fit in "syn" instead of YES no many how many times I told myself that was impossible. It didn't help that I was simultaneously trying to make "tangld" a word instead of TANGLY. Anyway, overall I very much enjoyed the Saturday challenge. Oh, and I have no beef with PRIDE, though I did find it a bit abstract. (MASTHEAD, too -- isn't it more like a place for big names in the news rather than big names themselves?)

Sixthstone 10:41 AM  

Tough puzzle especially in the SE. PASY... was killing me. Eventually cracked it though.

Loved the bunch of hipsters clue! A big smile from me.

jae 10:46 AM  

On the tough side for me. Sparkly and fun, liked it a bunch!

PLOT ARMOR was a WOE for me too and there seems to be a plethora of ways to spell YIPEE KI YAY.

Roger the Dodger 10:49 AM  

In Air Traffic Control and military-speak, 'roger' does not mean 'yes'. It means, "your transmission has been received and understood". The equivalent for yes is 'affirmative'. Copy? Roger, out.

burtonkd 10:49 AM  

I love the term PLOTARMOR, and entered that and BABAS immediately, leading to Rex's ideal solve of having the whole top row of downs to speed me through the rest.

@Son Volt - my thoughts on that also, although didn't he add the mf just for the last time as the sign off line?

In deciding between GARa and GARI, I looked up gara and it is apparently the following:
A Basque newspaper
A character from a video game.
A city in Hungary
An organic, vegan skin care product line
An intentional Toobin-esque activity that doesn't pass the breakfast test.
GARI it is!

@Jim in Canada, well put. Why doesn't Rex sleep until at least 6:15am before turning himself in knots?

I have only ever used caulk for water applications. Air makes sense, but never ran across it personally. On a related note, tubeless bike tires use a kind of fluid (liquid caulk?) that slosh around in your tires and look for air gaps to plug up. Nothing more fun than hearing that horrible flatting tire sound stop by itself with only a few PSI lost!

I didn't get NINERS being the football team with Joe Montana the QB until coming here. Someone mentioning it was a fun clue was enough to make rethink my initial weird, huh?

Has anyone ever used TANGLY instead of tangled?

@LMS - I think you can add that your third example has more emphasis and heightened state than the 2nd. While I have your attention, if I do, what is your take on teachers who correct students with "May I go to the bathroom?"? I find it so irksome, that I'm all like I can't even...

Camilita 10:53 AM  

@irfan the GARI hate is not because we haven't heard of it, which as Rex explains is fine, but it crosses something that could be spelled a number of ways. Rex does a good job of explaining the problem with it. He said he is happy to learn a new term. Several people here had DNF due to this. You can use a not well-known word but this was not used fairly with the cross on a vowel. "Plenty of people" doesn't mean it's known by average American crossword solver.

jberg 10:57 AM  

@pamela spencer, thanks for the reference! I've never seen Die Hard, but figured it out because of "Ghost Riders in the Sky" -- but I just checked, and the refrain in that song is "Yippee-Yi-Ay, Yippee-Yi-Oh." So now I know why the "Ki" was in my head!

@Pablo (and @Loren's avatar), If I go, like, "Wanna go to the opera this Saturday," you might be like "I dunno, WHEN IS IT?"

I'm impressed I finished this one. There's been a lot of press for Juneteenth lately, so that was the first celebration I thought of -- then I ran through Flag, Father's, and Arbor Days before realizing that June is the month when we celebrate the grad and the ... bRIDE! But I had LOT, so it had to be P, and the scales fell from my eyes.

Speaking of scales, they too produce honeydew. I was once scraping some hard-shell scale off the leaves of an amaryllis when I was actually challenged by an ant, who was stationed there to guard the farm. Fortunately, she was no match for me.

I very seldom remember actors' names, but my wife does -- but when I asked her who was from Coney Island, had won for Emmys, and had the first name RHEA she was completely at sea -- which was where I wanted those starfish to be, specifically on the sea flOOr.

Once I got all that sorted, and realized that vibranium came from the eponymous land of the movie, I turned to the SE -- where I thought you'd get a smooth shot if you had a STEADy aiM. That didn't work, so I decided the clue must be about a (non-gluteal) vaccination, which you'd want to approach with a STEADy arM. Finally I grokked all the downs in the region, and saw STEADICAM peeking out at me. Then I just had to change cpI to PSI (brilliant misdirect), and I was done. Quite the workout.

Joe Dipinto 11:03 AM  

"Wanna come to my Pride party?"
"And you are...?"
"Chuck Yeager."
"It depends. When is it?"
"Duh. I said 'Pride'. When do you think?"
"Well maybe. I don't wanna give you false hope. Will Rhea Perlman be there?"
"No, she had a prior commitment to ride the Cyclone all day. Wilt Chamberlain is coming though. And Keenon Ivory Wayans."
"You mean Keenen."
"Don't correct my spelling, you rude pedant."
"Sorry."
"What about gari?"
"Didn't invite him."
"I meant, you know, to eat."
"Ooh, that would be kinky. Well, as a special guest I invited the Cowboy from The Village People."
"Really?! Well Yippee-ki-yo-ki-yay, then! I'm so there!"
"Hey, you spelled that correctly."
"What?"
"There."

And all the people were singin', they went
"Na na na la la la, la la la la na na na na"

(Damn, those people knew a good lyric when they heard it.)

Birchbark 11:04 AM  

"AND YOU ARE ...?"

"I'm GARI. You actually said how much you like me at the sushi restaurant."

"Oh. I thought your name was GARa. Now PEACE."

"What?"

"Ciao. Begone with you, GARI. SCRAM."

Joe Biden 11:10 AM  

Your flag is upside down.

Teedmn 11:12 AM  

I didn’t have much trouble today until I hit the SW. I was sure about WENT and MASTHEAD and was fairly confident about TANGLY but there I hit a lull. I decided that NO ONE was probably who can get in the way of what Alicia Keys feels for me, and that let me throw down MerEST as “Low-key”. How lucky is that, with the serendipitous EST being correct?

Deep breath, close eyes, what four letter word ending in T can mean “Lose one's vigor”? WILT floated up to the top and that gave me FALSE HOPE, in an ironic way.

Still, this was a fun way to spend a Saturday morning in northern WI. Thanks, Adam Aaronson!

What? 11:14 AM  

38A. The Prize in economics is not a Nobel Prize.

Anonymous 11:22 AM  

I spent entirely too much time staring at PASYSTEMS and wondering what the hell a payzee stem was. A control panel? Cans onna string? Sometimes my brain just..doesn’t.

Anonymous 11:26 AM  

"Why do sushi-ists use different words for something? The regular words weren't fancy enough?"

They're in Japanese, see. Originally. I feel like I'm being trolled having to explain this.

Anonymous 11:31 AM  

@What?. As in horseshoes (see yesterday Xword), you get credit for being close.

Anonymous 11:34 AM  

Fwiw... some dictionaries list definitions chronologically by usage. Most of them start with the most common current understanding and usage.

Nancy 11:35 AM  

PLOT ARMOR? What dat?

PRIDE as a stand alone for a...month? Week? Day? Don't think so.

I'm not only supposed to know who she is, but where she lives? (RHEA PERLMAN). Once I got PERLMAN, I wrote in RITA, because it's a sound-alike. Figured it out only when IT DEPENDS finally came in.

I should know a "Die Hard" exclamation? Or a single thing about the "Marvel Universe"?

Why use a pop culture clue for NO ONE?

(PASY STEMS is a DOOK.)

NO ONE here knew GARI. Right? (I'll go take a look now).

Montana is an EX-NINER

Believe it or not, I managed to finish this puzzle with only one cheat (LOKI) which is what I wanted the answer to be (rather than THOR or ODIN) because I really did want ATLANTA for the world's busiest airport. I struggled everywhere today and mostly had a perfectly awful time. Lewis -- who I couldn't miss on my way down here -- was much too kind.

Whatsername 11:39 AM  

Start a far-from-NYC solver off with an event unique to NYC, then ask an avid reader to cross it with the unheard-of PLOT ARMOR, and my enthusiasm has begun to WILT already. Sorry but so not chuffed.

Some things I did like: WHEN IS IT, AND YOU ARE, clues for YEAGER, SHELF, PEKE. And of course everybody’s favorite: YIPPEEKIYAY. (I use the dictation feature on my iPad which just changed that word to EPIC KIA. 😂)

OTOH, not crazy about MANBUN or ciao=PEACE and especially the school-specific clue for 57A. Plenty of places have PA SYSTEMS - retail stores, offices, airports, arenas, stadiums, restaurants, etc. Plus the “lines of” IMO suggests some written form of communication like a test or a note passed. Fair on a Saturday I suppose but just seemed ODDER than the usual misdirect. Again, not chuffed.

Thanks Adam. Even though I WENT all TANGLY about a few knotty spots, I enjoyed it.

bocamp 11:43 AM  

'Water' for LITER. One of the main reasons I was spinning my wheels in the NW. Hi @pabloinnh, @LMS.

Having a hard time grokking how 'rum-soaked treats' would be redundant for BABAS. Should it be just 'rum treats'? I do see the POC there. Does that figure in? I dunno. 🤔

@Rex's mention of 'nori' reminds me of one of the reasons I went with the 'i' over 'a' for KI, hi @Lobster11 8:21 AM. Still, in the end, just a lucky guess. Had I thot to parse the exclamation, then the 'i' would have come more naturally (I think), hi @Frantic. MY sympathy/empathy with @Z, @Imfromjersey, @RooMonster,@Carola and anyone else who guessed wrong (I've been on the FALSE HOPE side of Natick plenty of times) :(

Z (7:26 AM) wrote:

"See you on the flip side, Sister. PEACE. 🙏🏽"

Like it! Ciao baby, PEACE out, bro! or catch ya later. 👋

@Z (9:17 AM)

Thx for the 'honeydew' def. Didn't know that; hi @MsCarrera.

@DeeJay (9:29 AM) / @JD (9:46 AM)

Thx for the further amplification re: the connection between APHIDs and honeydew. :)

@pamela spencer (10:10 AM)

Thx for fond memories of the old westerns! I'm an Old Cowhand w/ Bing Crosby

Here's a sweet lullaby by Charlie Daniels: Yippie Ki Yea

"You're a tired little cowboy your eyes are half closed
Let's put those six guns away
You've been ridin' all day yippie ki yea

That old stick horse you're ridin' is plumb tuckered out
But he stayed with you all the way
Let's give him some hay yippie ki yea"
___



Peace ~ Empathy ~ Kindness to all ~ 🕊

Wanderlust 11:43 AM  

Ended the puzzle with the sad “Keep trying” message and was sure it was the YIPPEEKIYAY cross with GARI. (I couldn’t stand that Bruce Willis character but I did know the exclamation- just not how to spell it.) tried every possible letter at that cross but no happy sound so I changed it back to “I.” Finally found my error - I had IDS on top of taxis (they have numbers) and WIKANDA sounded right - until I looked at it again.

Ended up close to my average time (which is not good because my average includes early days when I was inept at solving). But not as bad as yesterday when I was way slower than my average.

Rex is wrong about his main beef. I’m gay and everyone just calls it PRIDE now. I never hear anyone say Gay Pride or LGBTQ Pride.

Birchbark 11:47 AM  

@Joe Dipinto (11:03) -- Odd harmony 'twixt the posts. You precede me by a full minute and cast a wider net, ergo Primo.

Also -- I watched "Big Night" last night, after viewing the clips you posted a week or so ago. Incredible acting and food -- Tony Shalhoub workshopping the Monk character in the form of a chef, Ian Holm fully immersed in an Italian role, and Nastassja Kinsky being herself. Time very well spent.

Anonymous 11:55 AM  

@jimincanada Thanks for schooling Rex on PRIDE. I tried earlier but erred by including a spoiler for the mini puzzle. Actually thought that the folks who read this would consider me an amateur for even doing the mini as a warmup.

That said, PRIDE is a thing all by itself. I usually enjoy Rex's rants but today's seemed out of touch and, as a result, dismissive.

Anonymous 11:58 AM  

It's amazing the number of people who think Pride in June only happens in NYC! San Francisco, to start with, would like a word.

Anonymous 12:00 PM  

Yes, and just as an FYI. ROGER WILCO means, “received, will comply”.

OffTheGrid 12:04 PM  

For those of you still not getting it, June is PRIDE month, all 30 days. Members and supporters of LGBTQ celebrate in various ways, in various locations, and at various times. The 1D clue is not a reference to a single day or event and has nothing whatsoever to do with NYC. (Rex has never been further off his game)

mmorgan 12:11 PM  

I am astonished that Rex didn’t know GARI. Not a judgment, just an observation. It was one of the few gimmes in this puzzle for me. In general, I found it a good, crunchy puzzle. I’d never have gotten PLOT ARMOR without crosses. And I thought the MANBUN clue was very clever.

Disciple of Nan'L 12:25 PM  

BABAs
ALLIE
stole my heart

Anonymous 12:33 PM  

Off the grid and , Wanderlust,
If same sex attraction is involuntary, that is you were born that way, why is it a matter of pride? What are you proud of?

Frantic Sloth 1:05 PM  

***Cranky Soapbox Alert***

Okay. I've had just about enough of people claiming others "just don't get it".
Here is a quick and easy Cliffs Notes version of PRIDE:

Yes. Nowadays most people "in the know" or familiar with it do call it simply "PRIDE".
But, it was not always thus.
As someone who was actually alive for its inception, I offer the following:
It originally started as the "Gay PRIDE Parade" in June 1970 in honor of the Stonewall riots of 1969 and was held in NYC. So there's the birth.
Since then it has evolved from "Gay Pride Parade" to "Gay & Lesbian PRIDE Parade", and through all the alphabet soup additives until its current designation, PRIDE.
Over the years, it has grown exponentially to where it would be massively incorrect to describe it solely as an NYC event.
First of all, it's everywhere. Second, it has expanded from one day/one event to one weekend to one week to an entire month.
My sense is that Rex was speaking of either the original nomenclature or the particular meaning of this very specific kind of PRIDE.
Because, as we all know, the word does exist in other contexts.

/end soapbox, but still cranky.

Nancy 1:13 PM  

My nomination for best blog comment of the day is @JD's (9:46) "Ask your doctor about Vibraniam." With @GILL's "Vibranium could be headache medication for all I know" being a close second. Can I be forgiven for leaning more towards a medication meant to alleviate sexual dysfunction? (Solely based on its name, of course.)

@burtonkd -- Yes, I was annoyed by TANGLY, too -- annoyed even more because TANGLED wouldn't fit. I neglected to mention it only because I was more annoyed by other things.

Nancy 1:19 PM  

Since I know what it's like to deal with balky technology and because I, too, won't bother to try to re-do a lost comment, I'm putting up on the blog @mathgent's email to me just now. He didn't ask me to, and I doubt it encompasses all -- or even most -- of what he might have said in his blog comment, but here, at least, is what he said to me:

@mathgent: I wrote a comment on the blog and my iPad froze before I could post it. I didn't have the energy to redo.

Congratulations on getting it. I needed to cheat on the Marvel clue to get the SW, and then I crashed and burned on the SE. STEADICAM, YIPPEEKIYAY, PASYSTEMS (they don't have lines -- they're battery-operated), PEACE (are we back in the 60's?).

There were lots of great clues. Enough to fill Lewis's list.

Z 1:23 PM  

@Anon11:34 is correct, some dictionaries try to list by usage, others by first appearance. I always thought all dictionaries did it the same, by usage, so for 5 plus decades I thought definition 1 was always the most commonly used. Merriam-Webster and the OED list by earliest appearance. If you are looking at a print edition, the info on how definitions are lists is probably at the beginning. I don’t know off-hand where to look for other online dictionaries.

@What - THE SVERIGES RIKSBANK PRIZE IN ECONOMIC SCIENCES IN MEMORY OF ALFRED NOBEL is still a Nobel Prize even though it’s been given a fancified extra title (that I copied and pasted from the Nobel website rather trying to type).

@Anon12:33 - I will grant you the benefit of the doubt that your comment isn’t what it looks like and you are asking because you want to know. Since the Comstock Laws through all the 20th century society systematically shamed anybody not heterosexual and cis-gendered, expecting people to at least appear to be “straight.” PRIDE is a statement of refusing to be ashamed of who one is. As @CrankyPants Sloth pointed out, PRIDE has grown in its inclusivity over the half century since the movement began.

@Frantic Sloth - I hear Vibranium will help with the crankies. We keep a supply at Z’s Placebo and Tentacle as a hangover cure. It works best when taken while in a bathtub in a meadow, although a bathtub on a wooden roller coaster works almost as well. No Sloshing. PEACE 🙏🏽

Joe Dipinto 1:25 PM  

@Birchbark – I noticed that! Cool coincidence. (Mine has a mistake – "Sorry. What about gari?" should be one continuous quote – but I was too lazy to delete-fix-repost.)

Glad you liked "Big Night". As I recall, Ian Holm also did an Italian accent in "Chariots of Fire". I like the conversation with Stanley Tucci where the lamp is blocking his face.

Anonymous 1:28 PM  

Posh posh. The Comstock Act criminalized the circulation of obscene material. It shamed no one.

Tim Carey 1:34 PM  

This is the third day in a row where I completely crashed and burned with no survivors. Discouraging. [sigh]

G. Weissman 2:21 PM  

Lewis @6:46 AM: Did you intend for your comment to read like a Hemingway parody? I enjoyed it on that level.

Gerry Kelly 2:23 PM  

Actually there is a mistake in the clues probably due to timing of the submission. Atlanta is no longer the world's busiest Airport as of a month ago. An airport in China is the busiest!!

Frantic Sloth 2:29 PM  

@Z 123pm Does that Vibranium cure for the crankies work in conjunction with @Nancy's 113pm prescribed use?

If so, I don't see how
(a) It would help my crankiness, and
(b) How it would help prevent "sloshing". (Is that what you youngsters call it nowadays?)

CIAO 🤌

GILL I. 2:52 PM  

@Gerry Kelley 2:23. I know I probably bore a lot of people to tears, but I'm crushed you didn't even peek at my post at 8:13.
My woman bun runneth over.

clk 2:53 PM  

Borrowed from the Twitterverse. I apologize for not having original attribution:

An apology, to my wife:

I am sorry,
The kids were playing
Some sort of cowboy game

The five year old
Kept yelling
‘Yippee Ki Yay’

I did not think.
Instinctively, I
Finished the phrase.

And now he knows
A new word.

Gerry Kelly 3:28 PM  

Sorry Gill! I did a scan and missed it! Thought I had some news. Loving Adele all the time too!

bocamp 3:35 PM  

Thx to all who clarified PRIDE; as a stand-alone it just seemed off to me, but now makes perfect sense. :)

@Liz1508

Two puzzles you may enjoy; both from 'Wordplay' DVD extras: NYT; Thu, 5/27/2004 / NYT; Fri, 3/11/2005
___



pg -17

Peace ~ Empathy ~ Kindness to all ~ 🕊

GILL I. 3:44 PM  

@Gerry Kelly 3:28....You're invited over to my house for a drinky poo.... ;-)

smalltowndoc 3:50 PM  

How is an ASP a spreader of venom? Injector of venom, yes. But "spreader", I don’t get it.

Z 3:59 PM  

@Cranky Sloth - HeHe. There are matching meadow bathtubs for women, too. Apparently, getting the blood flowing is good for curing the crankies in lots of people. As for the “sloshing,”… We’ll leave that for the anons to figure out.

T.A.
@1:28 - You do know that there are actual books, written by actual historians, citing actual historical primary sources, that you could read, don’t you? Here’s a good one. Be forewarned though, because you might learn some things that you don’t want to be true.

Z 4:05 PM  

@smalltowndoc - Right after the ASP bit Cleopatra’s breast it slithered over and spread some more venom by biting her cat, too. Those cranky ASPs just won’t keep their venom to themselves. No word on whether or not Vibranium would make an ASP less cranky.

Stickler 4:07 PM  

Brit here who doesn't get why sis is the start of a cheer. Anybody? @clk 2.53 thanks for sharing the poem 🤣

Anonymous 4:08 PM  

Z,
The Comstock Act law does not, contrary to your initial claim, criminalize homosexuality or shame it. The book you link to does not make that claim either. You should at least understand what you’re linking to if you can’t be bothered to get the statute right.

Anonymous 4:22 PM  


Geoffrey Stone, the author of the book @z is so enamored of, misunderstands the Constitution he seeks to criticize.
Here’s a scholarly piece on his myriad shortcomings.


https://www.uclalawreview.org/getting-the-framers-wrong-a-response-to-professor-geoffrey-stone/

Nigel Pottle 4:41 PM  

I’m a little insulted as a Canadian that Rex would call the Canadian ambassador to the US a ridiculously stupid clue, considering all the obscure politicians from US states who appear in the NYTXP that even most Americans don’t know about. It’s an important position and we are your neighbour and important trade partner. Bob Rae is a dignified man and an excellent ambassador. And maybe Tom Cruise made Yippie ki yay popular in the Diehard franchise, but il’m sure I was borrowed from the Bing Crosby song “I’m An Old Cowhand - in the phrase Yippie ki yo ki yay - which comes from the 1930s but was still on air in my youth in the 50s. I’m wondering now if I know it because of Roy Rogers who also sang the song. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/I%27m_an_Old_Cowhand_(From_the_Rio_Grande). And hey again Rex, Pride is no longer a short form of something - it is the thing! As in, what are you doing during Pride? And no, Pride is not centred on New York City - it’s celebrated all over the world, including all the Canadian provinces (our PM Justin Trudeau has marched in several Canadian Pride Parades), and in lots of European countries. We acknowledge that the Stonewall Riots in NYC gave birth to Pride, but it’s not something that only New York can claim.

Otherwise this was a decent puzzle for me, over 5 minutes faster than my average, even though when I started I felt the puzzle was going to be a killer. I loved some of the tricky clues. Now to return to the Friday puzzle which gave me a lot more trouble yesterday. Thanks for today’s great puzzle, Adam Aaronson.

Witnessing Greatness 4:51 PM  

Johnny Carson did a bit. Sis Boom Bah, is the sound you hear when a sheep explodes.

@Z - once again, impressed with the ease with which you are handling the ignorami (is that legal, I’m trying to make it plural because I can’t tell how many trolls you have dispensed with to date, but not giving them credit for infecting the community here like a Covid virus for example).

Anon-a-holes, you blithering idiots are so way out of your league that it is comical just observing how important to you all it is to feel like you actually are capable of acting like an intelligent adult (so far you are failing on all accounts).

Joe Dipinto 4:52 PM  

@Stickler 4:07 – from the Online Etymology Dictionary:

sis-boom-bah:
cheerleading chant, originally (1867) an echoic phrase imitating the sound of a skyrocket flight (sis), the burst of the fireworks (boom), and the reaction of the crowd ((b)ah).

Anonymous 5:02 PM  

@smalltowndoc. The clue is supposed trick you into thinking "spreader of venom" means someone that trash talks when it is actually literal. The asp spreads venom by biting critters.

albatross shell 5:05 PM  

Actually you might want to put an asterisk on the ATLANTA correction because of Covid. Not to mention, oxymoronically, the answer could be London depending on how you define busy. People planes or shootings. Bored yet Gill?

I always said tidal pool, but apparently the world of science is changing to TIDE POOL. Of course science, preferring foolish inconsistencies over foolish consistencies, has TIDE POOLS existing in intertidal zones, not intertide zones. Living inland, I go newt hunting in vernal pools that may become (jules?) verne pools someday.

Yesterday played harder with more cheats here. Today was just one or two over my Saturday average of 3. Less bruised today.

Wane before WILT. Wary before FEAR. Felt the urge twice. Looking for put a toe in and sometimes instead of RIDESHARE and ITDEPENDS. Liked the DEEM TEEM meet. YEAGER and Montana both deked me. BLUEGREEN bored me. CPI fit so well at 45A. Great springboards for me were LOKI GASP WAKANDA PASYSTEMS ANDYOUARE. NE went pretty quick. Not anywhere else.

Hey cranky sloth: give PEACE a chance to wave goodbye. She's smiling at you. Ono too.

Randy Miller 5:41 PM  

Great construction for a puzzle, I think most of its issues could've been solved with better cluing. Felt like a Wednesday puzzle in disguise with convoluted clues.

Giovanna 6:05 PM  

Haven't read all of the comments, but the "ciao" clue's answer was weird to me. Never heard its meaning as "peace." (I'm from an Italian family.)

"The word derives from the Venetian phrase s-ciào vostro or s-ciào su literally meaning “I am your slave”. This greeting is [like] the medieval Latin Servus[, which] was not a literal statement of fact, but […] a promise of good will among friends (along the lines of “at your service” in English). The Venetian word for “slave”, s-ciào ([ˈstʃao]) or s-ciàvo, derives from Medieval Latin sclavus, deriving from the ethnic “Slavic”, since most of the slaves came from the Balkans."

I'd be happy to hear from anyone who found "ciao" meaning "peace."

burtonkd 7:21 PM  

@Giovanna - they are both informal ways to say goodbye.

Alana 7:52 PM  

Finished a Saturday puzzle in 20:00 on the screws. A few minutes faster than my average Saturday but nowhere near Rex territory. This Z person seems overly impressed with himself.

Geoff H 8:27 PM  

Totally thought 10A would be BALLS

albatross shell 8:56 PM  

Peace is used as a greeting greeting going and coming by some and some religions. Peace, Brother.

JC66 9:06 PM  

@Albie

Someone should alert @bocamp how PEACE is used. 😂

Colette 9:30 PM  

@clk 2:51 pm
That was one of the funniest comments I've ever read. Thank you, thank you, thank you! LOL quite a bit.

Ben 9:50 PM  

Man nothing like getting to read a straight white dude's (wrong) opinions about PRIDE :-)

Unknown 10:53 PM  

Pride is a totally fair answer - it is not an abbreviation and it is not only celebrated in New York City. Gari/Ki is silly. Rae is also silly.

Anonymous 11:38 PM  

Yeah this was one of the easiest answers in the grid for me too. I even live in Phoenix where pride is in April because no one wants to be out in June. I don't see the value in narrowing it to NYC either, to me that'd make it harder.

NearNatick 11:45 PM  

Easiest clue of the puzzle for me, and I live in Phoenix where PRIDE is in April because no one in their right mind has a parade in April.

Irfan 9:55 AM  

Does it have to be well known? Also… YIPPEE KI (Kai) YAY … Is about to only way I could think of spelling that and making it fit …. YIPPEE KA (kah) YAY isn’t how Bruce Willis pronounces it so I didn’t fall down that hole. Seems like people get bent out of shape because they didn’t know an answer , as if that’s the constructors problem. It was fine to me. I guess my takes on crosswords are just different. As long as the clue is accurate and hinted correctly, it’s fair game. Especially on a Saturday.

Anonymous 10:51 AM  

Rex,
What rule is Matt Gaffney the exception to? And what rule does it prove?
You clearly don’t understand the phrase. Here’s a pro tip: don’t employ terms you don’t understand.

Joe 11:03 AM  

I flew through the NW section, pieced together the SW and NE. Then hit a wall in the lower right. I had “Slow Pulse” for 55A, and CPI for 45A. Had to revamp. Put ‘Steady Aim” for 55A. Still no go. Finally figured it out.

Anonymous 4:30 PM  

As a Brit, BRYDON was an immediate shoo-in! If you want to hear something astounding google his "man in a small box" impression.

Grainer 6:27 PM  

MANBUN predates the practice of (usually older) males to let the side and back hair grow out enough to make a ponytail in an effort to distract attention from the balding spot on top. Canadians who are long-time listeners of CBC Radio will remember the weekly challenge on Peter Gzowski's morning show to come up with a word for something previously unnamed (e.g., the bumps a coat hanger leaves on the shoulders of a garment). One such challenge was to coin a word for this type of ponytail; he had his staff, and I daresay most of his female audience, rolling on the floor when it took him several minutes to understand the humour in PONIS.

danahansen 8:32 PM  

I disagree the Rae is crosswordese. Issa Rae is quite famous by now.

TokyoRacer 9:25 PM  

Well, this is late, so probably no one will see it, but just in case Rex or someone does:
Gari is the sushi word for ginger. The usual word is shoga. Sushi has several terms that are only used for sushi. Soy sauce (shoyu) is murasaki, meaning purple. Tea (o-cha) is agari. Cucumber (kyuri) roll is kappamaki, because Kappa (strange beings that live in water) like cucumber.
So Anonymous's answer above to the effect that sushi has special terms because they're Japanese, is wrong. There are in fact special sushi terms that are used nowhere else.

kitshef 8:51 PM  

Protection of a protagonist for narrative purposes … IN SLANG?! You have to be kidding me.

Huge objection to GARI (unguessable garbage) with KIYAY (spelling mystery).

Despite which, MUCH easier than yesterday’s.

kitshef 8:59 PM  

Fun fact: LOKI is the father of Jormungandr, and also the mother of Sleipnir.

Unknown 12:49 PM  

Challenging somewhat. I have just one minor quirk. Regarding the clue for FARTHER OUT THERE... My understanding is that FARTHER is DISTANCE ONLY. FURTHER means DISTANCE AND Further discussion for example. In other words... Taking something FURTHER regarding an idea or discussion. We say, "Furthermore" NOT "Farthermore". With this clue, it should have been written, "FURTHER OUT THERE" since it's NOT referring to distance. Just my two cents. 👍😁

Unknown 2:33 PM  

Somewhat difficult puzzle. I just have ONE little quirk. It's regarding the FARTHER OUT THERE clue. My understanding is that FARTHER means DISTANCE ONLY. FURTHER may be used for distance AND proverbially taking something further like a discussion for example. We say FURTHERMORE NOT FARTHERMORE. With that being said, the clue's answer was specifically about a person being more odd, so it wasn't referring to physical distance. So, in this case, the clue should have read, "Further out there" NOT "Farther out there". Just my two cents. 👍😁

spacecraft 11:10 AM  

Yeah, GARI is a real outlier, more so for me since if I were given the choice between sushi or starving, I'd say "I'm thinking." So the first letter could quite literally have been any of the 26 for all I knew. And oh yes, PASYSTEMS was indeed tough to parse. At first I had TASE () and something called EASY STEMS. Toyed with discarding SCRAM for SCRAP and EASY STEPS...still didn't sit right. TASE may shock me, but it doesn't MEAN I'm in shock. What to do? Suddenly saw that SYSTEMS is a word, and so whew! GASP!

BTW, STEADICAM was also hard to parse, what with STEADY AIM/ARM to fog the issue. "Fit" could be a whole host of things...the entire corner was a Bee-yatch.

Most of the rest of it went pretty well, so say easy-challenging, medium after all. I love DOD RHEAPERLMAN. Birdie.

Happy Fourth, all, and be careful with those fireworks!

thefogman 12:13 PM  

About the same solving experience as yesterday. Pretty good but notI wonder Interesting how the clue for 40D (Low-key) is a homophone for the answer to 44A (LOKI). I wonder if LOKI was a low-key kind of guy - for a Norse god. And I wonder if ANDY OUARE will be BS’s nom de plume today? PEACE out.

PS - @Leftcoaster. Check yesterday’s comments for the Sara Lee explanation

Burma Shave 1:24 PM  

REST PRIDE

WHENISIT okay to DEEM YOUARE SETFREE of DOPES?
ITDEPENDS ON the day, ANDYOUARE rid of FALSEHOPES.

--- ALLIE BABAS

leftcoaster 5:27 PM  

Found this a bit easier than yesterday's but tough enough, and which isn’t to say I avoided errors.

Among them in particular were PLOT ARMOR and WAKANDA. Also, was deceived at first by “inflation stat”, PSI (Pounds per Square Inch), when I was sure that it had to be CPI (Consumer Price Index).

Have to note that "AND YOU ARE?” could be one of the rudest of rude questions under certain circumstances, most likely asked by a pompous ass.

Oh, and thought about MeaT HEAD before MAST HEAD as “Big names in the news”.

leftcoaster 5:46 PM  

@thefogman, from yesterday...

Didn’t anybody but nobody not get SARA LEE?

Diana, LIW 6:25 PM  

Simply not on this guy's wavelength.

As an English lit major and an avid reader, I have never heard of PLOTARMOR. Not an auspicious start...

Diana, Lady-in-Waiting for Crosswords

Anonymous 6:27 PM  

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leftcoaster 9:44 PM  

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