Classic British two-seater / SAT 3-9-19 / Freeze that extends out from coastline / Goal of having no unread emails / Drink with espresso whipped cream / Pianist's finger-sliding / Some workers who stretch plastic materials / Oxymoronic skiing condition / Guys dolls composer lyricist

Saturday, March 9, 2019

Constructor: Sam Trabucco

Relative difficulty: Challenging (close to 10, maybe ... I paused to take my coat off (??) and I also had to hunt down a dumb typo)


THEME: none

Word of the Day: DRAWMEN (45A: Some workers who stretch plastic materials) —
a worker who draws precut plastic materials to desired shapes in a hand or power press (m-w)
• • •

Well WHIT and TANKINI and good night! I mean Good and Night. I have rarely had a pair of mutually "confirming" wrong answers wreck me like that, right from the get-go (1D: Little bit / 17A: Modest article of swimwear with a portmanteau name). And WHIT gave me the (correct) "I" for "I DECLARE," so I was horrifically locked into wrongness up there. Even after I'd given up on that corner and gone and eventually solved the rest of the grid, even after breaking back into that corner from the outside with ALRIGHTY THEN, even after taking out WHIT, I just couldn't break through. New problem after new problem after new problem. Changed WHIT to ... DRIP. Briefly wondered if perhaps there existed an article of swimwear as ultra-modest as the PARKINI ("The Parka You Wear In The Pool!"). And even after, finally, I got what piece of swimwear they were after, I went with BIRKINI ... because I had REDID for 2D: Brought back (REDUX), which I think is actually the hardest thing in the puzzle. Just brutal. Looks verbal, is adjectival? So, yeah, first "completed" grid had BIRKINI / REDID. Yeah, I know there are no [Sorority letters] called DIS (ugh, [Sorority letters], worst worst worst, i.e. most useless, Greek letter clue type). I am kind of resentful of DILI up there, which is some Maleska-era arcane geographical stuff. Yeah yeah, it's a capital blah blah blah. It's obscure. (5D: Capital and largest city of East Timor)

The SW was also tough, but nowhere near as touch as the NW for me. I had ZERO in place and so got INBOXZERO right away (common concept to me, not sure why). But DRAWMEN, ugh, oof, jeez, other exclamations. What in the world? You really gotta know when to say "No" to your wordlist. That answer is dire. More dire than FASTICE, which sounds like a hockey or maybe a speed-skating term to me (46A: Freeze that extends out from a coastline). But back to the SW: found the names easy (KNOWLES, ELLEN, TESS), but still had to hack hack hack at the [Classic British two-seater], because even after guessing MIL (28A: Significant investment, informally), and getting that the car was an MG, I still couldn't put MIDGET together, partly because of DRAWMEN (Ugh ... ugh REDUX!), but mostly because I went with PULLED at 50A: Took in (GULLED). I was thinking [Took in] in the sense of "earned" (financially). I had one other major mistake in the NE, where the "P" from PERU made me certain the answer to 9D: Alternatives to tablets (GELCAPS) was LAPTOPS. I even overrode the "E" in VENTI to make LAPTOPS happen. Blargh. But somehow that mistake was easier to pull myself out of than the PULLED mistake and especially alllll the mistakes I made in the NW, starting with WHIT / TANKINI. Good night.

Signed, Rex Parker, King of CrossWorld

P.S. XMEN crossing DRAWMEN = too MEN-y MEN in one place

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116 comments:

jae 1:25 AM  

Medium. There were bunches (well, more than one) of WOEs for me: DILI, VIENNA COFFEE, DRAW MEN, FAST ICE. Fortunately the crosses were reasonable.

No word erasures, just a couple of spelling corrections.

Gotta like a puzzle with a Jim Carrey catch phrase as the seed. A fine Sat. Sam!

puzzlehoarder 1:38 AM  

An excellent Saturday solve. No one section was really all that difficult but there was great material throughout. I never felt bored as the entries fell into place. As each section of it filled on my respect for the puzzle grew.

I really miss those old constructors of the 90s but some of these new kids really have some chops and it shows here.

I'll spare the details today but I just want to point out that while 7D may not be a shout out to @lms it sure looks that way.

John Child 1:54 AM  

DNF thinking that THE CONGo was a dance younger than I. Otherwise. Rey enjoyable, DRAWMEN aside.

Chim cham 1:56 AM  

GROK, FASTICE, GULLED were all new to me. Managed to get BURKINI after TANKINI didn’t work. Challenging, but ultimately a fun solve.

Unknown 2:45 AM  

This was really a rough grid. DRAWMEN? The plural of drawman? Other than that one definition Rex cited, it does not appear to be a thing. I still can’t picture what these men do for a living.
And THE CONGA? I mean, “conga line” is a thing, or just “conga.”

chefwen 2:50 AM  

It took two of us to wrestle this one to the ground, but we finally did it. Got a little hung up in the NE with me not knowing how to spell REVEILLE, REVElry kept getting stuck in my head, guess I like party time more than I like to be awakened.

Handed it off to puzzle buddy with a pretty naked SW section, he filled in roadster at 28D takingout TESS which I knew was right. Wite out to the rescue. MIL, GROK and MOWN got us a little leeway, but MIDGET was still far away as DRAWMEN, GULLED and ELLEN were not familiar, finally, after many hand offs we were able to put this puppy to bed.

Robin 3:16 AM  

Yep, that NW was challenging. Didn't run into quit the same problems as Rex but the DRIB/BURKINI was the last cross I had to figure out before getting the happy pencil solving this on-line.

Maybe I'm mis-remembering, but isn't the idea behind INBOXZERO that not only have you read every in-box e-mail, but you have actually responded (and maybe deleted) every message?

Anonymous 4:08 AM  

Generally the emails are removed from your inbox with INBOXZERO, but the idea isn't necessarily to have responded to all of them. The idea is not to use your inbox as your todo list.

Loren Muse Smith 4:15 AM  

I entered the grid with a faux-hold: “It was me!” for the dramatic courtroom outburst.

I think next I got TAP SHOES and OVER IT. I loved OVER IT. All the Kardashian drama? I’m so over it.

“pulled” before GULLED
“picks at” before PECKS AT
“eur” before DEE

Other possible DEE clues: “send fourth?” “the end of the road?” “a fifth of vodka?”

@puzzlehoarder – I went back and examined 7D to see. Hmm. Is it ‘cause its spelling will anger the grammar peeves here? And I love it ‘cause I’m a hippy, like-whatever-man-who-cares linguist? Or most likely it’s a shout-out to me ‘cause I tend to say stuff here that’s awkward at best, highly offensive at worst. Mea culpa.

Speaking of pedants, @Nancy – nice little smack-down of a grammar-shamer yesterday. Man, you were all over that guy, that coward after one of Our Own. This scene came to mind. (You’re the cat; the asshole yesterday is the dog.)

I agree that REDUX is brutal. I’ve investigated and found it’s an adjective that always comes after the noun. (We in the business call it a “postpositive” adjective.) Aplenty, galore, elect, laureate – they all occur after the noun. But REDUX is hard to use. During this Watergate REDUX we find ourselves in, IT’S A LIE has become Trump’s mantra.

EGO TRIP – stumbling over someone’s dachshund as you check out your reflection out in the store window.

VIENNA COFFEE – I remember being stunned in a Vienna coffee shop when my coffee was served with this beautifully-wrapped piece of chocolate on the saucer. My Austrian boyfriend Friedl told me I was supposed to put it in the coffee. I felt so cosmopolitan and fancy.

BURKINI took forever for me, too. I stupidly read “modest” as “meager” (a modest income), so I was stumped as to what would make a bikini even more scant. Of course, there’s the mankini - a loosey goosey sling that leaves nothing, Nuth Ing, to the imagination - but I had that R in place. Furkini. Airkini. I even imagined a brrkini.

Bikini is an eponym, I think, coined to denote the explosive effect this suit would have on people. I love how we’ve revisited the word so that now the bi part means “two” (see also monokini, unikini, and trikini) and the kini part means “swimsuit.” Equipped with kini as a suffix, we can make other neologisms to represent various new-fangled bathing suits. An inkini could be one of those stunning “bathing suits” that’s really just paint on a naked woman. And one of your animal print suits? A zookini.

Serendipity - while chin music’ing with some teachers yesterday I learned that the recent invasion of the mankini at the French Riviera has VERA WANG looking down her nose at all the LOWBALL figures.






ALRIGHTY THEN.

marty 4:22 AM  

East Timor is AKA Timor-Leste - both names translate to mean "East East". Timor is a derivation from the Indonesian word meaning "east". Leste is from Portuguese meaning "east".

When I'm not nerding out with a crossword, I often find myself nerding out with online trivia quizzes. Among my favorite are geography. In the name the countries of the world quiz, East Timor ranks in the bottom 10% of nations known. I'm confident saying that its capital, Dili, is the worst kind of crossword esoterica.

frankbirthdaycake 5:17 AM  

I got hung up awhile in the NE. The rest came to me in slower-than-average Saturday time. A good Saturday morning puzzle, in all, for me.

TrudyJ 5:46 AM  

Timewise this was quick by my standard but it did require going to sleep partway through and waking up to see a bunch of answers that had looked impossible last night seem easy in the morning, including the whole NW corner, where I had also started with TANKINI. The last cross to nearly defaet me was FASTICE/SERT.

Lewis 6:04 AM  

What @puzzlehoarder said.

This is a 62-worder and considering that, remarkably clean, with 11 NYT debut answers. Amazing. It had a bit of everything for me: Answers I loved (GLISSANDO, ALRIGHTY THEN, LOWBALLS), contemporary answers (BURKINI, INBOX ZERO, ONLINE TV), old-timey answers (MG MIDGET, GROK, LOESSER), and answers I never heard of (DRY SNOW, DRAWMEN, FAST ICE).

Speaking of the latter, I want at least three answers out of my wheelhouse on Saturday so that I may learn some new things and that I may have areas of tough problem solving. Saturday is my final exam of the week; I come in with the hopes of acing it and leaving with the feeling of satisfaction, and that feeling won't be there if I didn't earn it. You gave me once again everything I wanted, Sam, (and I got my ace). Thank you, and I eagerly await your REDUX.

mmorowitz 6:38 AM  

I had MERKINI in there for a while, assuming there was some kind of weird bikini/merkin hybrid out there.

QuasiMojo 6:40 AM  

I finished in twice Rex’s time but also got stuck in Redux land. I threw in RETRO then REDID but managed to GROK it. I also had CONGO like John Child but that’s because I always say OH, rather than AH, except at the doctor’s. @ LMS, I laughed at your putting in IT WAS ME! You must have seen too many Perry Mason episodes. Wanted VIENNA MOUSSE since Vienna Coffee was too dull sounding for that description. It reminded me of those hilarious commercials from the 70s and 80s for CAFE VIENNA with Carol Lawrence (of West Side Story fame.) I used to drink them back in college before I realized there was very little actual coffee in them. Mostly sugar, corn syrup and hydrogenated soybean oil. And artificial flavors.

Anonymous 7:02 AM  

I beg your pardon Mr. Trabucco, but it's Escape BOLL.

BarbieBarbie 7:20 AM  

Had a weird moment of destructive overspecialization when I entered TENTERS for DRAWMEN. (Tenters are sections of machines used to make stretched-out plastic Glad-wrappy stuff.) Also I never heard of the muralist. So this one felt very difficult to me, especially the two East sections, but by the clock not so bad, and I can’t explain that. Lots of great patches, especially the whole NW. DROPDEAD and REVEILLE together is kind of nice. Good Saturday.

I learned about FASTICE today. It’s kind of a DOOK.

I had trouble with the TV/VW cross. Kinda think one of those should have been a non-initialism word.

Robso 7:35 AM  

What Rex said. I had MGMI—ET and DNF because DRAWMEN and the double MEN cross. Assumed I made a mistake somewhere. And the NW, ugh.

FPBear 7:47 AM  

Don't understand the challenging rating. Thought it was the easiest Saturday ever. Used a lot of crosses but just entered one after the other. And I often don't finish Saturdays. Even the great @JAE found it medium!

Teedmn 8:01 AM  

My NW started with OVER IT, I DECLARE from the E and then down to POD to work back up into it. (Thanks for the POD laugh, Anon 7:02). With all of the Somali immigrants in our area, BURKINIs get a lot of mention in the local Variety section so that presented no glitch. My NW problem was knowing, knowing that no sorority ever had XI as a Greek letter; it must be pIS. So what the PECK is REDUp? I eventually had a XIS redux and did not DNF there but it was close. (Also, REVEaler for 13A briefly had me wondering if Salvador ever made it down to East Timor.)

GEL tAbS had me sifting through my admittedly scant geographical KNOWLEdge, looking for a four letter country b__U. VACCINE injected some sense into that corner.

SPRITZED always makes me smile. One of my friends tells tales of going on family vacations to Civil War battlefields. They would leave the family dog in the car with the windows cracked and one of the chores the kids had was to take turns going back to the car to SPRITZ the poodle. (Hi @Doug Freeman, if you're out there - you probably heard that one before!) This has become a catch phrase with our cycling group.

Sam, I had fun with this. Nice Saturday.

Anonymous 8:07 AM  

@FPBear - it was solved in 1/3 my average Saturday time, hovering at Tuesday average time. But I finished it with at least three answers that I was not certain of and had to go learn about after the solve, so, though fast, it seemed strangely difficult. A quandary.

What She Said 8:11 AM  

This puzzle felt more forced than a step-sister’s foot in a glass slipper.

Going down the rabbit hole on two clues:

48D is that hoary bit of crosswordese, SERT. Since it was clued less than two weeks ago (!) as “Spanish muralist José Maria ______”, of course it’s good to mix it up a bit. But “Waldorf Astoria muralist” is sloppy on a number of levels. The Sert murals haven’t been in that building (or, for that matter, in the United States) for well over thirty years. The entire time the murals were in their original setting, the hotel was known as the Waldorf-Astoria...with a hyphen in the name. Back in the day when people might have actually visted the so-called Sert Room, SERT was clued as “Waldorf muralist” and “He did murals at the Waldorf”. Sert’s giant replacement of a Diego Rivera mural in Rockefeller Center still stands today.

18D is also a stretch. Yes, Vienna sausage is a thing, but VIENNACOFFEE, not so much. When in Vienna, the drink described in the clue would most likely be an Einspänner. The Einspänner derives its name from a one-horse carriage for hire. Carriage drivers were said to have taken their coffee with a giant cloud of whipped cream on top so that the coffee would retain its heat during rides around town. More romantic and delicious than a Thermos in an Uber, that.

amyyanni 8:12 AM  

Anyone with LULLED instead of GULLED? Also had TANKINI for too long.
Loved GLISSANDO & TAPSHOES (topped by BALLAD) crossing BASS SOLOS with Frank LOESSER gazing on fondly. Now I'm off to climb stairs for about 1.5 hours.

Z 8:18 AM  

atom—>DRam—>DRop—>DRIp—>DRIB, so the NW killed me again and what do I do? I DNF because I never notice that KNOWpES is not a name. Blrrgh.

Not quite DILI but a fun video anyway. At least we didn’t get a City of Peace Wiki Clue.

Grew up along Lake Michigan, I have ventured out on the ICE that forms as waves crash over the ICE that has already formed. It is beautiful and impressive. I have never heard of FAST ICE. Ah, It’s a sea thing and FAST as in FASTened. Who knew?

@Anon7:02 - You win Comment of the Day.

kitshef 8:20 AM  

Huge number of WoEs today: DRAWMEN, FAST ICE, MG MIDGET, KNOWLES, VIENNA COFFEE, plus only got SERT because I raged about it last time it appeared.

Yet somehow I negotiated all that, even the seemingly impossible SW, only to fail at THE CONGo/oH I SEE.

DILI, on the other hand, was a gimme.

Drop Dead Fred, the movie pictured in Rex's review, is hilarious, if you like Rik Mayall over-the-top violent slapstick, as I do.

Sarah 8:21 AM  

Ugh, this puzzle. I've been doing a lot of old puzzles lately so when I had everything filled in (knowing MGM IDPET was probably wrong) and didn't get the happy pencil, I just went to Reveal. Then it told me revealing would blow my streak. Oh, rats, this is TODAY's puzzle, I actually need to solve it.

Agonized over the car awhile. Finally sat down and figured that BULLED, CULLED, GULLED, and PULLED were all justifiable, and CRAWMEN and DRAWMEN were most likely. Was able to force it out from there.

pabloinnh 8:27 AM  

Fun to see GLISSANDO in there, I play just enough piano to do a great one and wind up on the
note I want. Took forever to remember Mr. KNOWLES, even though he spoke in person to a small group of us at my university back when everyone was reading A Separate Peace.

MCED made me think we were going to get back into the mic/mike mic'ed up mic'ing up discussion but happily that has not happened.

Did the MGMIDGET really have a top speed of 50MPH, or is that a legend?

Spent yesterday skiing on DRYSNOW, which is way better than the other kind.

Thanks for a swell Saturday, Mr. Trabucco. Always enjoy your stuff.

Hungry Mother 8:30 AM  

I took a bit too long to change oHISEE. Otherwise, pretty quick. I did the mini in a flash this morning, surprising me.

Paulus Johannes 8:37 AM  

Hi all; this is my first post to this blog! I’ve been solving for about six months, which is how long I’ve been semi-retired. I am a curler from Canada (the Canadian men’s championship, The Brier, is on this weekend). I mention this because FASTICE is a term I often hear when playing the game. I also hear ‘slow’ or ‘normal’ ice. The terms describe the distance a rock will travel down the sheet…fast = further.

Mo-T 8:38 AM  


I always have a nit to pick with "alright." No such word, at least in my vocabulary.

Got burkini all right, but has PIs for 19A and couldn't figure out how "redup" was brought back. (2D) Redux never crossed my mind. One of those mornings, I guess.

So that PIssed me off. Otherwise, a fun solve, Mr. T.

TJS 8:38 AM  

Referring to @nancy responding to the "Grammar shamer" yesterday, what happened to the initial comment, the idiots response and Nancy's comment ? I cant find them. I tried to respond to that jerk immediately yesterday and was sent to Captcha hell for the first time in months, then returned to find the entire issue had been deleted. Anyone else know what happened ? I assume it is some kind of moderator decision, but it doesnt make sense to me.

Bob Mills 8:38 AM  

Got everything except the SW. Didn't know "GROK." The clue for 11-DOWN should have included an abbreviation, because "STANDREW" is an abbreviation. And "GULLED" for "took in" is misleading. Otherwise a good puzzle, typically hard for Saturday.

Z 8:47 AM  

@pabloinnh - Your comment reminded me, anyone who thinks DRY SNOW is oxymoronic doesn’t know much about SNOW, or maybe states of matter, or maybe doesn’t GROK the meaning of “oxymoron.” Jumbo shrimp is an oxymoron, or deafening silence. If anything DRY SNOW is redundant, since SNOW that isn’t DRY is water. Wet SNOW is really a mixture of SNOW and water. I cannot reconcile DRY SNOW with a rhetorical figure in which incongruous or contradictory terms are combined so I’m thinking the clue is wrong. There is usually a way to see how a clue works so I’m generally leery of ever using “wrong,” but I’m not seeing any way the clue works here.

Birchbark 8:51 AM  

DRY SNOW, FAST ICE, GLISSANDO (from "glissade," a controlled slide over ice or snow).

INBOX ZERO is a graven image best ignored. Walk in the woods instead.

DILI = a truly random Roman numeral.

Unknown 9:06 AM  

I sometimes struggle with Saturday puzzles, but I breezed through this one.

Outside The Box 9:12 AM  

Agree about “alright.” Did most of the puzzle Fri. night, except the NW. Went to sleep and everything in the NW clicked when I woke up today.

“Alright” still annoying me!

bookmark 9:23 AM  

I've read John Updike's RABBIT REDUX, the second in his Rabbit Angstrom series. Still couldn't come up with the word.

David 9:27 AM  

I had "a dab" at 1D, which easily gave me burkini. Then I had "picks at" and "dili"; the two "i"s put me off so I moved on. The rest fell fairly nicely. MG Midget was a gimme, plopped that one right down. Also Loesser and Knowles. Nice to be of an age where one used to get art and literature education in public schools as well as seeing those old singin' movies on one of the four channels we got clearly on our TV. Northeast was easy for me, I don't even really remember it.

Ellen, Tess also easy, figured inbox something or other and, even though I've worked with computers since the very early 80s and always clear my inbox, this concept meant zero to me. But the X gave me Xmen, which led to gulled to iron rule to lowballs to drawmen(?). Then on to the middle and the southeast.

Back to the northwest and change "picks" to "pecks", get "over it", then I see "I declare" and know that "a dab" is wrong, change it to drib and fill in the rest. But oops, had "redup" and had to figure that out to exit properly.

Today we have a proper clue for a POD answer, but there's nothing oxymoronic about "dry snow", as Z points out above.

One of my favorite puzzles in the past few weeks.

Unknown 9:30 AM  

“I before E, except after C or when sounded as A, as in neighbor and REVEILLE. DNF. I got a wake up call for that mistake . As for the cross on 5D, There's this DeLI in East Timor, Zabar's West I believe it was called...

Dorothy Biggs 9:30 AM  

Lots of mistakes:

• manKINI...which I like a lot better than BURKINI...whatever that is (I'm afraid to Google it). I've been to the beach, some men would do well do wear a mankini.

• MGsprite...IIRC, my brother-in-law drove one of those back in the 60s. I was very proud of myself to throw that in with zero hesitation. Turns out, I should have hesitated.

• atom for DRIB...DRIB?? WTH?

• GULpED...is GULLED where we get gullible from? Cuz that's the only way I begrudgingly gave up the P. I take in water by gulping all the time. That entire area galled me, (along with the upper left).

Speaking of the XMEN/DRAWMEN crossing, how 'bout that VAC/VACCINE crossing, eh?

DEE was probably the lamest answer...my SO had "est"...which I like better.

Mark Tebeau 9:30 AM  

DNF. First time in a month. Just hard. Damn hard.

Brian 9:37 AM  

Metoo
60% of my average
Maybe it’s the direction/path whereby you solve this one

LindsayZ 9:40 AM  

I love how differently people will feel about specific clues and puzzles because of our different experiences. One of the first answers I partially filled was ----KINI, and I left the first half blank because I thought, "are they going for TANKINI or BURKINI?"

GILL I. 9:43 AM  

Sam always makes me smile. I guess I get on his wavelength. Sometimes.
Trying to see if there's something I don't like. Nope. Was I horrifically locked into wrongness? Yes.
Tankini... and boy do they look silly. Of course, the BURKINI. I read all about them from some French magazine and how the Nicoise gang were in an uproar over their nude beach invasion. Why go to the au natural zone and insist on covering up. Must assimilate.
ALLRIGHTY dighty is my go to word. But THEN it is. The whole North/middle and east answers seemed to slip in like feet in silk slippers. Noting really gave me pause other than my horrid spelling.
I get to the SW and my smug smile faded. Could not find anything other than TESS at the bottom. I did my usual get up and walk around then come back to my chair trick to see if gray cells would ignite. Nope. Dang. I had my one and only Google: KNOWLES. Didn't know him. I was too busy hating Castro and Che in 1959 to be bothered to read something called "A Separate Peace."
KNOWLES opened the door. GROK, badda bing badda bang. LOW BALLS (love that one - I also like high balls). MOWN of course and the rest smiled at me.
I love the vision of slipping into a cocktail dress AFTER SIX. Images of Dad coming home and fixing the must have martini for him and Mom. She actually would dress up but that was usually because my parents were always having people over for cocktails. Che disapproved.
Anyone else have DEPOTISM for 29D?

Unknown 9:45 AM  

Oh, how clever! Thanks for my first chortle of the morning!

JC66 10:09 AM  

@TJS

I think the mods accepted @Nancy's suggestion at the end of her terrific riposte to @Anon's grammar shaming and removed both posts.

ArtO 10:11 AM  

Holy mackerel. Couldn't even get a foothold yesterday and blasted through this one in reasonable time. Astonished to see the Challenging rating. A personal best since never finished a Saturday with that rating.

Certainly helped to know Frank Loesser. Guys & Dolls is one of my all time favorites. That and changing dabbedon to SPRITZED made the center.

Ted Lindsay 10:17 AM  

“Draw” is a term for a hockey faceoff. So dump those crazy plastic pullers and clue DRAWMEN as Hockey Centers. You’re welcome.

Suzie Q 10:18 AM  

I thought maybe draw men were the guys who cover the ball diamond with a tarp. Baseball is so full of nick names.
MG Midget was slow to appear because I thought classic might mean going back to the days of carriages.
I anchor my tent with stakes not pegs.
My margin notes included Escape Boll!
Good fun overall.

Unknown 10:24 AM  

Hi Rex,

My wife and I have read your blog for years, so I'm thrilled you used a YARN clip (Psycho's "I declare") today! I am a co-founder at the company producing YARN (https://www.getyarn.io); we use artificial intelligence to search for video online to process and understand it. YARN is just one of our products, but my co-founder and I view it as our legacy effort to index all narrative entertainment for the general public.

Regardless, what a nice way to start a Saturday - you made my day!

best,
Chris

PS: also enjoyed your Alice postcard. Thanks for being a part of our morning for so many years.

QuasiMojo 10:25 AM  

Welcome to the blog @Paulus Johannes!

Nancy 10:27 AM  

I did the required amount of "suffering" expected in a Saturday puzzle, I prevailed, and thus I feel smart. Especially since I didn't know such things as FAST ICE and INBOX ZERO; the names of any XMEN at all; and what models of MGs there are in the world. Nor have I ever said ALRIGHTY THEN to anyone, nor has anyone ever said it to me. I don't frequent Starbucks, so I didn't know if 18D would begin with VIENNA or VIENNese. I don't camp (you absolutely must check out the "Jews Don't Camp" song on YouTube), so I didn't know what the end of TENT would be at 55A. On the other hand, I'm sure I've never worn a cocktail dress until AFTER SIX, so there's that.

Aren't there machines that can stretch plastic materials (45A)? That doesn't sound like a job that any human person should have to do. Ever.

This was a puzzle I had to wrestle with and I enjoyed the tussle.

Nancy 10:38 AM  

Thanks, @Loren. And to @TJS, an explanation: I happened to be on the blog right after one of the regulars was attacked. I wrote a defense of (him or her, I won't specify) and suggested that the mods knock the nasty comment off the blog and then delete my response as well. This was done with such alacrity that I'm not sure that any of the comments were even seen. Which is a very good thing. If the person who was attacked never saw the snark, so much the better. I commend whoever was moderating yesterday for reacting so promptly and decisively.

Malsdemare 10:46 AM  

Along with others I DNFed at CONGo/ oISEE. Shoot! Otherwise, it was a great Saturday, stuff I didn't know, stuff I had to work to dredge up from the nether regions of my memory, and stuff I never knew and thus learned (I'm looking at you, DILI). Thank you Sam, and thanks, gang for a lovely hour on an otherwise dreary day.

@Dorothy Biggs, of course, we all have differing tastes, but are you sure you know what a MANKINI is? I don't know a single man — star or not — that I want to see in one.

@Nancy, if you have a copy of your rant, I'd love to read it.

TJS 10:50 AM  

@JC66, thanks for the response. Wish I could have read @Nancys' response to that jerk, but it's good to know someone told him off.

albatross shell 10:51 AM  

Last Saturday beat me down hard. Last night this one fell smoothly for a Saturday
SW to center to NE to SE to NW. 1D was almost its own word ladder. ADAB DAUB DROP DRAB. Had ATOMIZED before SPRITZED. Resisted DRYSNOW (tried HOTSNOW first) for as long as possible for its lack oxymorthenticity. Did not know GLISSANDO at
all. Needed every cross to confirm the spelling. EGOTIST before EGOTRIP.
Knew BURKINI soon as I realized KINI was the last half.
Everytime there is a DEE type clue I swear I'm going to check for that style answer first instead of tenth. And so I swear again.
Skaters like curlers also talk of FASTICE. Glad to learn this new to me meaning. I do not believe I've ever seen it. The actual thing I mean.

Very little obscurity. I was able to get a longish answer or 2 in every section build on. Good fun. High grades all around.

Charles Flaster 10:59 AM  

Same mistakes as most of you, especially Rex.
REDUX=.?
Jim Carrey did a great “ALRIGHTY THEN”.
Thanks ST

Crimson Devil 11:06 AM  

Geeese. Was able to get a couple long answers in each quadrant, but still got whupped. Was gettin cocky ‘bout this puzzle-solving, then this comeuppance.
Go Devils !

Masked and Anonymous 11:29 AM  

My western solvequest was pretty much ALWRONGYTHEN. Just overwhelmed by stuff I didn't know. Holy nanosecond guzzler, Batman. My white wine flask ran red … whatever that just meant.

NE corner [which I worked on first, after quickly abandonin the NW ship, a la @RP] was definitely friendliest -- with the SE also puttin up only a mild fight [EXTS... har].

Got yer four jaws of themelessness black square blobs, so this SatPuz does get points for grid design.

staff weeject pick: DEE. Mostly becuz of its semi-de-maddenin {Grand finale?} clue. Got the general idea, but wanted all-wrongy kinds of stuff there first, includin: -AND. -MAS. -PAS. -EUR.

Assume the seed entries were maybe ALRIGHTYTHEN & VIENNACOFFEE, cuz they're the longest balls and are fairly non-weirdball. Kinda admired GLISSANDO, also. Remembered it vaguely [first shot at it was CLESSANDO, tho]. SPRITZED was also nicely applied. BASSSOLO looks cool; had BASSRIFF for way too long.

Thanx, Mr. Trabucco. It's been trabecular.

Masked & Anonymo3Us


… get yer nerve back, here:
**gruntz**

Anonymous 11:35 AM  

Altogether now! Three cheers for almighty alrighty! Enuf already!

nyc_lo 11:45 AM  

Pretty much an exact copy of Rex’s experience, except what takes him ten minutes will take me twenty. Or 21:10. But who’s counting? Besides me. Loved ALRIGHTYTHEN, even though I use the phrase way too much. I’m getting better though, really. Tried MANKINI first, then BURKINI seemed better. Just trying to spell REVEILLE was challenging enough for Saturday. And REDUX/XIS was the last tumbler to click. Felt like a pretty strong Saturday to me.

Charles 11:47 AM  

What do crossword solvers mean when they use the term "WOE" (all caps)? (Trying to learn the jargon here, or should I say, the argot.)

Fountains of Golden Fluids 11:56 AM  

Does anyone remember laughter?

Cindy Yang 11:58 AM  

Ya gotta love the mansplaining . . .

Carl Copas 11:59 AM  

LOL. Welcome back @Fountains!

Lee 12:03 PM  

Like everyone else, NW was a disaster: I had GRACIOUS at 15A, TANKINI at 17A, and RERAN at 2D. The ??GT at 1D should've clued me in, but as a relatively new solver I am continually amazed at the crosswordese I encounter on a now-daily basis.

Tough one, by my count, but good fun.

Nancy 12:06 PM  

Forgot to say -- terrific letter, @GHarris. Sure wish you'd been on the bench!!

JC66 12:11 PM  

@Charles

I think WoE = What on earth?

Nancy 12:28 PM  

@Mals -- I only make a copy of my first comment since the day when two of my comments bled into each other after I tried to cut and paste them successively. Also, I close my computer and put it to bed each night because it's very old (2008) and needs the rest. So, alas, I no longer have the comment from yesterday. Sorry.

Adam 12:29 PM  

I also had trouble with the NW. Got the SW completed first, starting with John KNOWLES and GROK. INBOX ZERO went in quickly, then SPRITZED, then across to the SE. Had EGOTIST instead of EGO TRIP, but TENT PEGS set me straight. up to the NE with GLISSANDO (had GLISSANDE at first, but quickly fixed it), which gave me ALRIGHTY THEN (I wanted WELL OKAY THEN, but I knew the O was wrong). ELAN and DEE went in without too much trouble, but boy was I stuck after that. Got PECKS AT and OVER IT, then remembered BURKINIs and finished up. Tough but fair; other than DILI and DRAWMEN I enjoyed it. (Surprised @Rex didn't mention VACCINE crossing VACS, though.)

Anonymous 12:37 PM  

My first trip through the clues made me think this would be really hard. But, I filled in the few that seemed obvious and started working section-by-section. It steadily fell into place. I learned how to spell 'reveille' and learned what a drawman does. Everything else was either relatively common knowledge or inferable. A really, really good and fun puzzle. Nice end to a dull week of puzzles.

As usual, Rex doesn't like puzzles that might stretch his general knowledge or broaden his horizons. The veritable definition of curmudgeon, which, by the way, seems like a word that belongs in a crossword. The inside-joke cluing is obvious.

Whitey 12:40 PM  

DRIB, REDUX, and MGMIDGET were my downfalls this puzzle. Oof, oofer, and oofest.

MGMIDGET was awful crossing drawmen and gulled and Tess. I had Pulled (same as Rex) followed by Mulled (mulling an idea over is kind of taking it in?) waaaaaaay before I would even think of Gulled.

Add on GLISSANDO and STET and ATON and SERT and this whole thing felt brutal.

LorrieJJ 12:43 PM  

I think this is the first time I've seen Rex in a long, long time that he sounded a bit humbled. And I actually think he enjoyed this puzzle. It was a pleasure to see. It was almost as though he was one of us, struggling along corner by corner, and in the end ultimately triumph mean (or not)!!!

albatross shell 12:48 PM  

I forgot. One other minor problem with the cluing. What is the word club doing in the clue for nice answer of BASSSOLO? Certain jazz improvisation would work fine. WHY MAKE it seem like some clubs allow bass solos and some don't. I realize you can parse the sentence differently, but it seems hamhanded to me. Or maybe the word certain should be dropped? I guess I'm being overnitty now.

Mark 12:49 PM  

"Come on, shake your body baby, do the conga” Gloria Estefan

Suzie 12:51 PM  

DNF for me today. I liked INBOXZERO and VACCINE and it's been far too long since I've seen GROK used, but I got there eventually. But that MG and DRAWMEN killed me, and I've never heard the term GULLED before. And like apparently everyone, I too had tanKINI in the upper left, screwing me up for ages. Oh well. I've had a good run of finishes even on hard days.

TJS 12:54 PM  

@Nancy,I read @JC66 response to my query but somehow missed yours just above it. Thanks for the clarification, and thanks for what I am sure was a better response to the pompous ass who started the whole unfortunate situation.

CDilly52 12:59 PM  

If I hadn’t put on my TAPSHOES to execute a Glissando-like slide through the diagonal center of this grid I never would have gotten started. Like OFL, I was certain of tankini and whit and so just had to move on. And after I guessed BURKINI (the very last to drop) and finished the puzzle, I immediately googled up some pictures because I simply could not imagine how a burqa could “be” a piece of swimwear that wouldn’t have so much weight as to make it a dangerous garment in which to swim. While the pictures I found were entirely modest and appropriate and less dangerous than predicted, they certainly looked plenty heavy. But in the climate of Muslim countries I also think swimming would be a blessed relief from the heat.

Loved learning new words DRAWMEN and GILLED, but that slowed me more, and I finally GROKked the SW with the crosses MIL, MOWN, ELLEN and TESS.

Because in my 35 years as a trial lawyer, I have never heard ITS A LIE shouted in open court ever, I had “I object,” since that can in fact be very dramatic when required (except typically in Federal court where decorum and the “leash law”) keep us pretty rigidly in check. Had to think TV courtroom tondigure it out. So much to like about this knotty Saturday.

RooMonster 1:07 PM  

Hey All !
I guess I'm the only one who wrote in muntz jEt for MG MIDGET first. Was Muntz British, or American? Thought I knew...

NE was my downfall today. GLISSANDO as a WOE was holding me up. Well, ST ANDREW not helping either. Had sIENNA COFFEE, plus tENTI, so finally threw in the towel. Looking at it now, it seems I should've been able to GROK it. Oh well.

Lots of neat words here, I DECLARE. Har. After some rain here yesterday (which wasn't on the forecast), it's DRYS NOW. :-)

No WIN EGO TRIP
RooMonster
DarrinV

old timer 1:38 PM  

I have always understood that the only person who can delete a post, other than the author, was OFL himself. Also true when posts need to be approved by "the moderator". In that respect, I wonder if the comment app has a feature that allows new posts to appear in the moderator's e-mail, and quickly hit an accept" button. Those who have stood in for OFL may be able to comment. Seems to me my posts now appear much faster than they did a few years ago. Long delays were one reason @Rex abandoned moderation a few years ago.

Today's puzz was Saturday-hard, but doable except in the NW. There I needed to Google for DILI. That got me REVEILLE and the rest.

Still I had a stupid DNF. "The Congo" instead of THECONGA.

bswein99 1:46 PM  

It's always a relief to see that Rex found a puzzle that took me a long time to do "challenging" (which is undercut by his ten-minute time, but never mind). Also good to see that I wasn't the only one who first put in "tankini" instead of "burkini." And I'm so glad that we were told that Dili is the biggest city as well as the capital of East Timor; that really helped a lot, didn't it? And then there was "inboxzero" and "drawmen." But the one that really kept me from an even minimally decent time was "Golfs, for example." I'd completely forgotten that VW made a car named Golf. Finally got TV and that did it for me.

Sunnyvale Solver 1:47 PM  

SW was just too brutal. An MG model name and unfamiliar author name in the downs. GULLED and DRAWMEN across. Too much for one corner. And there is X-MEN crossing DRAWMEN. I somehow guessed correctly on TESS, and figured out MOWN, MIL, but still not enough to finish that corner.

HSCW Editor 2:01 PM  

Thank goodness, I'm not the only person who temporarily considered PARKINI. (And why not? What else would any sensible person wear for a polar bear plunge?)

Multiple levels of misleading in this puzzle. My brain feels gymnastically exercised...painfully so, because at my age, it doesn't like bending in that many directions at once :-)

GHarris 2:12 PM  

Thank you @Nancy. All eyes now on Judge Jackson who I expect will be more sensitive to the scope of the wrongdoing.

Carola 2:24 PM  

Puzzle to Carola: DROP DEAD. Like the oxymoronic DRY SNOW, I found the puzzle both enjoyable and maddening. I couldn't get REDUX for the life of me; also my bird kept PiCKing, so I ended up with a 3-square DNF in the NW. I was left with the existential questions: "If I took French, why can't I spell REVEILLE? Why didn't I know XI is a Greek letter?"

Loved the ELAN of GLISSANDO, TAP SHOES, and THE CONGA and the attempt-at-recovery ALRIGHTY THEN. On a long-ago trip to VIENNA, this Dairy Stater was delighted to find that just about everything was served mit Schlag, a hefty dose of whipped cream. @What She Said, thank you for the Einspänner lore. I love the "I need to keep my coffee warm" reasoning.

Mike 2:31 PM  

I could have written Rex's account of the solve, for I made nearly the exact same mistakes, including PARKINI.

Not a fun puzzle for me, just too much I didn't know nor did I find it exciting when I finally got it.

Mike 2:32 PM  

@Robin, that is how I think of INBOX ZERO.

JC66 3:00 PM  

@GHarris

Excellent letter. Hopefully, next week, Judge Amy Berman Jackson will correct the situation.

Suzie Q 4:12 PM  

Does anyone know who the mysterious moderators are? Are they paid by Google? It's always been a creepy notion to think of these shrouded characters with unquestioned power.

puzzlehoarder 4:48 PM  

@lms, if you're still reading any shout out is meant positively no mea culpa required on your part. I honestly thought ALRIGHT was a correct spelling. My initial attempt to fit ALLRIGHT into that space was just something I chalked up to my own bad spelling. I knew there were some words that use that single L ALL. I just couldn't think of them so thank to @anon 11:35 for bringing up "altogether" and "almighty."

Z 5:40 PM  

@Suzie Q & @old timer - God and Rex know who the mod squad are. As to comments appearing faster, the first time Rex did it all. This round he has out-sourced it. Rex claims not to read the comments anymore, and evidence seems to point that way.

Z 5:45 PM  

ALRIGHTY THEN.

jberg 5:58 PM  

It's almost AFTER SIX, so I don't know if this will get approved. And I haven't read any comments, only Rex. But is DRAWMEN crossing XMEN, or even in the same puzzle, legit? Aside from that, I liked the puzzle quite a lot. I assume this is a pangram, so there's that, too.

The absolute hardest thing for me, which I could only get from crosses, was deciding whether DRY or wet SNOW was more of an oxymoron.

I'll come back and read the comments tomorrow. Our vacation schedule is brutal!

jberg 6:03 PM  

Ok, one more -- @Loren, think of this Updike book.

Also, is your avatar meant to be an oxymoron? That's another case where it could be one wither way, live or dead. But maybe I just didn't get it.

Anonymous 6:21 PM  

The only reason I knew DILI was the capital of East Timor is that it was the answer to a trivia question I encountered a while back, namely, What is the only world capital that can be spelled using only Roman numerals?

George 6:31 PM  

MGMIDGET made the puzzle for me. Was my first guess when I saw that JaguarXKE wouldn't fit. I learned to drive in an MG-B, so I have a soft spot for MG's.

Ethan Taliesin 6:48 PM  

I got messed up putting in DELI (like Delhi or something, obviously not reading the clue very well), and then having PICK AT, and transposing the I and E in REVEILLE. That mistake denied me a clean finish and left me staring at the grid in bemusement.

Ultimately had to bring up your solved grid next to mine to play "spot the difference."

OISK 8:28 PM  

As others have said, "Dry snow" is not an oxymoron. When the temperature is below freezing, the snow is dry. When it is above freezing, the snow is wet. I found this one much easier than yesterday's. I was sure my long winning streak would end with a Steinberg, but I somehow plowed through. Did "Grok" exist in dictionaries before "Stranger in a Strange Land"? I enjoyed this puzzle!

Leah712 9:02 PM  

I think I read all 98 comments, but no one explained ELLEN.

JC66 9:44 PM  

@leah712

Ellen Page is an actress.

Unknown 9:48 PM  

Ellen Page is an actress, so presumably she would be listed in a film guide. I remembered her from her breakthrough role in Juno.

Leah712 10:07 PM  

@JC66
Oh, I see, Thanks!

Anonymous 10:47 PM  

Ellen Page is famous for going on Colbert and blaming anyone whoever wore a MAGA hat for Smollett fake hate crime. She still hasn’t apologized.

jae 11:15 PM  

@OISK - no.

TJS 1:23 PM  

Forgot to ask: Does Rex have a bias against Sam Trabuco for some reason? I cant keep track of this stuff, but I'm sure one of you long-time contributors knows the answer.

OlyL 3:47 PM  

Okay. I just did the easiest Monday ever, filling in the grid with my fastest writing, hardly a hesitation. It took seven minutes. How can Rex finish a challenging puzzle in ten minutes with all the starts and stops he describes? Faster to do on line? Hmmmm.

RLvanN 8:52 PM  

This was a slog that was not even really fun when I finally finished. It seems like a lot of commenters liked this puzz but there were far too many weak clues and questionable answers. Alrighty? I’m putting Sam T on my “don’t bother” list to avoid future dyspepsia.

Burma Shave 10:14 AM  

EGOTRIP BALLAD

GOSH, AFTERSIX or so LOWBALLS, IDECLARE they DRAWMEN awry,
when those DROPDEAD TOPTENS call, get OVERIT, IT’SALIE.

--- DEE DEE “DILI” KNOWLES

rondo 10:30 AM  

Pretty much the exact solve as OFL, except for the time. VENTI, tanKINI, and GLISSANDO fell in there and I thought it might be kinda easy. But not so FAST there. oHISEE didn’t help in the SE, nor did EGOTism. Got it all fixed and finished in about 3.5 Rexes. Interesting that ST.ANDREW crosses VW’S Golfs.

I never have an INBOXZERO situation. Impossible.

I use Sling for my ONLINETV needs. A small fraction of the cost of cable and it’s got what I want.

I’ve got a copy of Updike’s Rabbit REDUX right here at work. Left from when I used to have time to read.

Any chance to REORIENT yeah baby ELLEN Page?

ALRIGHTYTHEN, this is what one should expect on Saturday.

spacecraft 11:19 AM  

I wanted EUR for the grand finale. Did the NE, then ensued a long pause. I knew the Guys & Dolls guy, but for the longest time his name would not come. I lost an early girlfriend to some joker who drove an MGMIDGET; I will never forget that stupid car. SW was still really tough, though, with DRAWMEN (inferred, but never heard of) and GULLED, a brand new term to me. DOD contenders ELLEN and best-part-of-my-day TESS (Julia Roberts) helped, but Beyoncé KNOWLES will take the palm, or WIN, today.

Funniest cartoon I ever saw, in an old Playboy, was of a guy looking up at a wall clock in his bedroom, holding dress pants and balancing on one leg ready to insert. The box read After Six, and the clock read 5:58. I laughed my ass off.

I'm liable to go on an EGOTRIP for finishing this baby. Almost left the O in for oHISEE--but double-checking the cross, the choice between a country and a line dance was obvious. GOSH this was hard! IDECLARE! ALRIGHTYTHEN, let's award an eagle.

Joe in Canada 4:44 PM  

Syndicationland here. I agree with Robso - I thought the word "MEN" twice illegal. Mistake on editor's part. Other than that, nice puzzle.
Trivia fact about East Timor - one of only two majority Christian countries in Asia.
ps yay! only had to click on 4 reCaptcha images today!

Diana,LIW 7:51 PM  

More than a double dnf - looked some up - some were wrong - and still couldn't finish. Looks like I'm still a crossword child at heart.

@Spacey - if you lost a love to a goy with a lil car, you most likely won in the end. imho

Lady Di

leftcoastTAM 8:18 PM  

ALRIGHTY THEN, let's move on.

Runs with Scissors 9:31 PM  

Syndilander here.

5 weeks ago, this Saturday-puz was a bit of a challenge. Much I had to infer, much from the crosses.

Please...Please...oh, in the name of all that is holy, PLEASE...stop using "Grok" unless you've actually read "Stranger in a Strange Land" and truly realize what Valentine Michael Smith (via Robert Heinlein) was talking about. You don't. So stop.

I had a few of the same forehead-slappers as noted by our real-time posters. Probably the most difficult was "in-box zero." It's something that makes sense after the fact, but also a thing I will never achieve without pitiless application of the delete button. Even then I doubt Nirvana will be attained.

DRAWMEN? If you say so. I guess it could as easily be d-ramen. New type of nuke-able soup. Are they also in a saloon in the 1880s?

I DECLARE, I could have DROPped DEAD on seeing DRY SNOW. I get it, having lived in Salt Lake City for a few years many moons ago - after all, the snow there is so dry your bumper will blow it out of the way. Never owned a set of tire chains and never got stuck.

Fun puzzle. I hope my decision to forego the flu VACCINE again continues my 57-year streak of never getting the flu.

Happy puzzling!

tonyd 2:49 PM  

DRY SNOW is clearly not an oxymoron. Sam's implying that snow is always wet, which it clearly isn't when it's DRY

Anonymous 5:20 AM  

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