Portmanteau drinking hangouts / SUN 6-15-25 / Hit 1981 German language film / Thawb-wearing leaders / Grasslike marsh plant / Nail polish brand with a "Wicked"-inspired collection / Comparatively upper-crust, in a way / Figure with an eponymous fire / Five-time world chess champion Viswanathan "Vishy" / University whose name sounds like a kind of highway / Scenario for a software developer

Sunday, June 15, 2025

Constructor: Adam Wagner and Rebecca Goldstein

Relative difficulty: Easy


THEME: "Tossing and Turning" — themers have two clues; the first one is literal (enter the answer normally) and the second can only be understood if you read the answer INSIDE OUT AND BACKWARDS (9D: How a shirt might be put on in a rush ... or a hint to this puzzle's theme)—that is, backwards, with one of the letters in the word "INSIDE" (found in a circled square in each themer) taken "out" ... the circled squares spell out "INSIDE" if you read top to bottom along the left side of the grid and bottom to top along the right:

Theme answers:
  • NETI POT (23A: Device used to clear out nasal passages / Final part of a radio countdown (i.e. Top Ten))
  • DNA BANKS (36A: Genetic repositories / Reel Big Fish or Sublime (i.e. ska band))
  • DAS BOOT (54A: Hit 1981 German language film / "What a shame!" (i.e. "too bad!"))
  • DIET TIPS (80A: Offering from Healthline / Roasting on an open fire, maybe (i.e. spitted))
  • BARCADES (98A: Portmanteau drinking hangouts / Marine crustacean (i.e. sea crab))
  • WASPIER (115A: Comparatively upper-crust, in a way / Wood cutter (i.e. rip saw))
  • ROMAINE (118A: Component of a Caesar salad / Captivate (i.e. enamor))
  • TENSPEED (101A: Like some bikes / Sunken, as the eyes (i.e. deep-set))
  • T.S. ELIOT (84A: Pioneer in Modernist poetry / Throne (i.e. toilet))
  • SIGNORAS (58A: Women abroad / Wrapped garments (i.e. sarongs))
  • TRADES ON (40A: Takes advantage of / Decoration painted on many a W.W. II aircraft (i.e. nose art)
  • OMELETS (25A: Brunch entrees / Figure with an eponymous fire (i.e. St. Elmo))
Word of the Day: TODAY (81D: Program that debuted a little before "The Tonight Show," appropriately) —


Today (also called The Today Show) is an American morning television show that airs weekdays from 7:00 a.m. to 11:00 a.m. on NBC. The program debuted on January 14, 1952. It was the first of its genre on American television and in the world, and after 73 years of broadcasting it is fifth on the list of longest-running American television series.

Originally a two-hour program airing weekdays from 7:00 a.m. to 9:00 a.m., it expanded to Sundays in 1987 and Saturdays in 1992. The weekday broadcast expanded to three hours in 2000, and to four hours in 2007 (though over time, the third and fourth hours became distinct entities). Today's dominance was virtually unchallenged by the other networks until the late 1980s, when it was overtaken by ABC's Good Morning America.

Today retook the Nielsen ratings lead the week of December 11, 1995, and held onto that position for 852 consecutive weeks until the week of April 9, 2012, when Good Morning America topped it again. Today maintained its No. 2 status behind GMA from the summer of 2012 until it regained the lead in the aftermath of anchor Matt Lauer's departure in November 2017. (wikipedia)

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Architecturally impressive, but not terribly fun to solve. The secondary clues just made everything too easy. I often didn't even look at the forward-facing clue, finding it weirdly easier to get some crosses and then solve the backward, circle-less version of the clue. As for the gimmick itself, it really didn't take long to pick up at all. I got NETIPOT without really noticing what was going on with the clues. I got the theme with the next themer I encountered, but only because the band name Reel Big Fish really caught my attention. Not exactly a household name, but I'd heard of them. I wanted that answer to end with BANDS, but then, for some reason, I actually looked *back* at the full clue for NETIPOT, noticed that the second clue ([Final part of a radio countdown]) was NETIPOT backwards minus the circled "I"—i.e., TOP TEN—and then applied the same logic to the Reel Big Fish clue; *that's* when I saw that "BAND" was heading backward—DNA BANKS in one direction, SKA BAND in the other. After that, I didn't need the actual revealer. I had the gimmick concept, and all themers were twice as easy to get thereafter as they would've been in a simple single-clue situation. 


As for that revealer, it's cute. Take the letters spelled out by the circled letters, i.e. "INSIDE," out of the puzzle, then read the resulting answers backwards, and you get the correct answer to the second half of all the themer clues. I don't really understand why INSIDE is running up the right half of the grid "backwards." That's an extra flourish that doesn't really have anything to do with solving the themers. The "backwards" part obviously applies to how you read each individual theme answer, so the "backwards" INSIDE ... is an add-on. A doubling up of the significance of "backwards" I guess. I also don't fully understand the title, which doesn't really evoke what's going on with the theme at all. The "Turning" I get, but not the "Tossing" so much. Nothing's being scrambled or anagrammed, so I'm not sure what the "Tossing" part is supposed to signify [update: as I was making the coffee just now, I suddenly realized that “Tossing” meant “getting rid of,”which is of course what you have to do to the circled letters to understand the backwards answers—so the title is good, I apologize]. I don't think I've ever put a shirt on INSIDE OUT AND BACKWARDS in my life—doing either one of those things would be highly unusual; doing both, nearly impossible. But sure, it could happen. [Full disclosure: my first stab at the revealer was INSIDE OUT AND OUTSIDE IN (it fit!?)].  I admire the complexity of the theme, but as I say, the whole thing just lacked a certain sense of mystery and fun once I grasped the concept. Too easy too easy too easy. But, admittedly, a genuine marvel, architecturally.


Almost no black ink on my puzzle print-out, which means hardly any trouble spots. I had trouble with HEAVIES because (as you can see) I had ARNOLD before AHNOLD, so didn't have the "H" for HEAVIES. Also, I don't know that meaning of HEAVIES. To me, "HEAVIES" are the villains in a story or movie, whereas "heavy-hitters" are [Big, important people, informally]. Weird. I somehow managed to remember NIECY, which was my big pop culture victory for the day. Definitely learned her from crosswords (11D: Actress Nash of "Never Have I Ever"). Never heard of Viswanathan "Vishy" ANAND (34A: Five-time world chess champion Viswanathan "Vishy" ___)). Again with the chess, ugh. Bah. PAH. Totally overrepresented in the puzzle, relative to general interest. A lot of you complain about "rappers" in the puzzle, but those "rappers" are usually exceedingly famous, whereas even the most famous chess player (besides maybe Bobby Jones [sorry, Fischer], or Magnus Carlsen) is not even NIECY Nash levels of famous. Oh, wait, Kasparov! And Spassky! OK, maybe I know more chess players than I thought. To be very fair to this "Vishy" person, he's clearly a huge deal ... in chess. But ... shrug. To me, that's like being a huge deal in luge. I just have no idea. 


Also never heard of BARCADES, which sounds terrible, in that the last thing I want to hear when I'm drinking is the sound of an arcade ... or any sound, frankly, beyond the murmur of background conversations and occasional tinkling of ice in glasses (98A: Portmanteau drinking hangouts). Maybe some jazz, not too loud. Arcade!? Hell no. Not drinking there.

[The perfect bar. Whiskey, cheap sandwiches, and not an arcade in sight]

USECASE is a super boring and ugly answer (16D: Scenario for a software developer). Most of the rest of the grid is pretty clean and well constructed, though. No real highlights for me (except maybe TEA SNOB ... a type of person I've never met) (I know some TEA aficionados, but none of them strike me as "snobs"). If you want very deeply informed, well-written essays on tea, with no snobbery whatsoever, I recommend Max Falkowitz's newsletter, Leafhopper. I subscribe, and I don't even drink that much tea (though I drink more than before I started reading). Coffee is a love affair I can't seem to break off. I've tried. No luck. I'm a more controlled drinker now. No coffee past 9am. I just can't give up the ritual. It's too important to my sense of the day, to my sense of the day's beginning. It's a thing I do, carefully, slowly, deliberately, with my cats. It's honestly the closest I'll ever come to being Philip Marlowe (OK, I'm conflating book-Marlowe and movie-Marlowe here; the former is fastidious about coffee, the latter has a cat ... basically, I'm Every Marlowe (it's all in me)).


How much do I love Marlowe (all the Marlowes)? And cats? I just bought this limited edition print (by Brianna Ashby) which I will have framed and then prominently display in my office, or possibly my kitchen:

["I Got a Cat" (Elliott Gould as Philip Marlowe in Robert Altman's The Long Goodbye (1973))]]

Bullets:
  • 1A: "Oh, fiddlesticks!" ("AW, DARN!") — not a huge fan of these ambiguous and contrived exclamations: some combo of "oh" or "aw" and then "rats" or "dang" or "darn" (and maybe others I'm forgetting). This is only the second "AW, DARN!" Looks like we've had four "OH, DARN!"s, three "OH, RATS!," five "AW, RATS!," etc. Mix and match
  • 72A: Actress Sink of "Stranger Things" (SADIE) — it's a hard name to forget. Born in 2002, she's been acting since she was ten (lead in Annie) and just this year got a Tony nomination for Best Actress in a play for her lead role in John Proctor Is the Villain.
  • 52A: Thawb-wearing leaders (EMIRS) — got this from "leaders." Never heard of a "thawb," which is the "long-sleeved, ankle-length robe." Perhaps unshockingly, THAWB (5) has never appeared in the NYTXW. But now we all know it, so ... why not? Sure. Go ahead.
  • 100A: Film studio with a tower that beeped out "V for Victory" during W.W. II (RKO) — it's not a big deal, but something about the way this clue dupes the idea of "V"-as-symbol irritated me (see 7A: Peace symbol = V-SIGN
  • 125A: How the U.S. has existed since its inception (IN DEBT) — a real awkward clue. I guess it's true. I mean, here we are, it's in the puzzle, so I assume it's true. But the phrasing is still unnatural. [What the U.S. has been since its inception] reads more naturally. You are (or you aren't) IN DEBT. You don't "exist in debt."
  • 76A: No man's land? (ISLET) — is the idea that tiny islands are frequently uninhabited? Looks like yes, they most commonly are not big enough or don't have enough vegetation to support human habitation. I wasn't aware that ISLET had a precise definition. I thought it was just vaguely "small." But the World Landforms website (!!) says very clearly: "An islet landform is generally considered to be a rock or small island that has little vegetation and cannot sustain human habitation." So the clue is definitionally accurate. And I learned something, hurray.


The Westwords Crossword Tournament, which debuted to great acclaim last year, is coming up again next week: Sunday, Jun. 22, 2025. Solvers can compete in person or online. Here's the blurb! 
Registration is open for the Westwords Crossword Tournament, which will be held on Sunday, June 22. This event will be both In-Person (in Berkeley, CA) and Online. Online solvers can compete individually or in pairs. To register, to see the constructor roster, and for more details, go to www.westwordsbestwords.com.
See you next time...

Signed, Rex Parker, King of CrossWorld

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102 comments:

Anonymous 6:27 AM  

Not fun at all. Too cute the clues. Trying to be too cute and smart made it a drag and ultimately a non finish. The reveal was easy but the puzzle not my thing

Conrad 6:32 AM  


@Rex: I think Bobby Jones was a golfer. You're probably thinking of the chess grandmaster Bobby Fischer.

Easy-Medium. I jumped around more than I usually do and I was surprised when the happy music played, because I thought I must have left an empty square somewhere. I got the theme early on, at 23A NETI POT / TOP TEN, and from there it was fairly straightforward.

Overwrites:
The big one was at 9D, where I had INSIDE OUT AND BACK again before BACKWARDS.
My 12D berry was acai before it was SLOE. The clue's colors were wrong but what do I know? I've never seen either one.
I thought things that become established over time Set in. Turns out they STICK (20D).
camp before NEST for the home in the woods at 28D
I had GENE poolS for the genetic repositories at 36A before I got GENE BANKS
I really wanted novia for the Spanish-language girlfriend at 42D, but I too many crosses to deny AMIGA, which I think of as more of a "girl (space) friend."
ASUS (50A) isn't the only four-letter Taiwanese computer company; there's also Acer.

WOEs:
Actress NIECY Nash at 11D
Viswanathan "Vishy" ANAND at 34A. Luckily, the crosses were friendly.
I don't know RED ALE (100D), but it was easy enough to infer from the clue.
I know a number of world capitals but LOME (112D) isn't one of them. I know, it should be.

Gripe:
"No man's land, maybe?" is a cute clue for ISLAND because "No man is an island," but it fell flat for me as a clue for ISLET.

Barry 6:38 AM  

Good morning Michael,
I believe you meant Bobby Fischer, not Bobby Jones. And Vishy Anand happens to be a chess legend, a long time world champion. I’m a chess fanatic so I love these clues. They are my gimmes.

Colin 6:54 AM  

It's 6:34AM, and surprisingly no comments yet? Must be a glitch. I too found the architecture impressive. How someone figures out that you can do this, that just has me scratching my head! And yes, AWDARN was awkward. As was SPITTED (DIETTIPS, insideoutandbackwards). I was wondering if someone's or something's "heart" would be part of a "decoration painted on many a W.W. II aircraft" and found NOSEART (TRADESON, insideoutandbackwards) a bit wanting as well. My favorites (among the themers) were TOPTEN, TOILET ("Throne", LOL), and SARONGS.

I still enjoyed this puzzle a lot. There were some creative clues for standard answers, including 26A ("Paper views?" - clever homophone), 52A ("Thwab-wearing leaders"), and 15D ("University whose name sounds like a kind of highway"). Vince Guaraldi is one of my favorite jazz pianists, and I've listened to his Charlie Brown Christmas album a bazillion times.

Lewis 6:55 AM  

By the way, speaking of the Westwords Crossword Tournament, it is directed by one of today's constructors (Rebecca), while the other (Adam) will be one of the officials.

Lewis 7:00 AM  

Okay. So I, whose brain inexplicably delights in palindromes and semordnilaps, most certainly reveled in this theme and in uncovering every theme answer. Rebecca and Adam, you had me from NETIPOT/TOPTEN to ROMAINE/ENAMOR. Full stop, end of story.

Well no, not end of story. After reading the constructor notes, add “astonished” to “delighted”:

First, Rebecca wanted to make a theme based on “semipermeable membrane”! Amazing.

Second, Adam took Rebecca’s concept – having words morph into other words, but with something left out – and in only “a few more minutes” came up with today’s less arcane version, going from “semipermeable membrane” to the marvelous INSIDE OUT AND BACKWARDS (both 21 letters, btw), with the answers fitting Rebecca’s concept. What a brilliant leap, and made so quickly! Astounding.

Third, the nuts and bolts performed by this duo. Finding words that can do what these theme answers do, with those words containing letters that spell “INSIDE” in the circles, in order – twice! Boggling.

The miracle of crosswords. I come to a box of empty squares, and by the time I leave I’m agape and enchanted. Wow, Rebecca and Adam, and thank you!

Son Volt 7:13 AM  

Solved as a themeless - because I could. The trick is secondary and hollow. Nice to see a central spanning revealer.

All CATS are Grey

The theme is dense creating some awkward fill - Rex highlights some of it. My side eye went to WASPIEST, and the brutal plurals HOT MESSES and LOTUSES.

Liked the central HOW NICE, SEDGE and WET NOSE. TEN SPEED harkens back to my youth and Schwinn - not sure there are any modern ones.

TS ELIOT chose England

Maybe better suited to an early week scale? Just not worth the effort needed to fill in a Sunday sized grid.

INSIDE OUT - Outside In

JonB3 7:13 AM  

I'm pretty sure I've put a T-shirt on inside out and backwards, especially in the dark.

Gary Jugert 7:14 AM  

Chicos, somos mejores que esto.

Phew. This one took forever, but I quite enjoyed working on it despite an avalanche of gunk. The backward theme answers were fun and surprising and helpful to completing the grid. BACKWARD doesn't need an S.

I loved RANSOM as a bad return policy.

TSELIOT/TOILET seems about right.

HEAVIES. OMG LOL. Not sure why there are no men on the ISLET; it's probably where GLAMAZONS come from. WASPIER is soooo bad. Little twerps just need a better curriculum.

ENNUI is my number one favorite word. ZHUZH is currently in the 30th spot.

People: 13
Places: 1
Products: 14
Partials: 14
Foreignisms: 8
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Gary's Grid Gunk Gauge: 50 of 140 (36%)

Funnyisms: 5 😐

Tee-Hee: [It's a sin.] ASS.

Uniclues:

1 Lettuce for the whitest and richest.
2 I got your sandwich / gimme all yer money / or I'll eat it with my band witch. (The music video is better than the song.)
3 Rah-rah team supporter can't get his own life together.

1 WASPIER BARON ROMAINE
2 PO'BOY RANSOM VERSE (~)
3 HOT MESSES STAN

My Fascinating Crossword Uniclue Keepsake from Last Year: Get a little dirty with a machine. SMOOCH NANOBOT.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Anonymous 7:16 AM  

The device was simple but the puzzle not a lot of fun. Lots of very peculiar answers and at least one that's simply wrong: 37D BEEB. The BBC is not the "English" Broadcasting Corporation. The clue's in the name.

Anonymous 7:22 AM  

USE CASE is two words, fyi.

Anonymous 8:07 AM  

Son Volt, where do you stand on Goose (musically and crossword worthiness)?

Anonymous 8:15 AM  

Rex’s first sentence sums it up for me. I solved this with little trouble but had no idea whatsoever what the theme was; I solved based only on the first clues / forward answers. The NYT Wordplay column (which I look at maybe once every three or four years) explained it to me. Oh. Very impressive architectural feat, but completely irrelevant to my solving. (But without understanding the gimmick, can it truly be said that I “solved” the puzzle?)

And even though “Tossing and Turning” is more in-the-language, I wonder if the other way around is actually more apt — you Turn the answer around and Toss the circled letter.

jb129 8:16 AM  

And Rex's Blog
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Anonymous 8:20 AM  

I think this puzzle would have been much more entertaining (not to mention challenging) with only the backwards clues. You’d still see that the forward the answers were still words, but it would’ve brought the revealer into sharper focus.

Anonymous 8:24 AM  

Yes! “Girlfriend” and “girl friend” are not the same. I too had NOVIA instead of AMIGA at first. I also did not like SIGNORAS. The plural of “signora” in Italian is “signore;” plurals do not end in “s”. SIGNORAS is anglicized plural, I get it, but ungrammatical to me. Similar to the anglicized, but imprecise, spelling of LEO for LIO (from “Lionel”) Messi earlier this week.

SouthsideJohnny 8:30 AM  

BARCADES looks and sounds terrible, picking up right where TENREC left off. This grid just didn’t inspire any sense of “energy” or enthusiasm for some reason, which is kind of consistent with Rex’s characterization - Ho-hum, perhaps?

The forward part of the themes were pretty straightforward for the most part, so the reading stuff backward just became an alternative to checking the crosses if need be. From there it was kind of tedious (and boring).

Thank goodness for CrossWorld stalwart Issa RAE or I would have taken an oh-fur on the proper names today - where’s Mel OTT when I need him ?

Niallhost 8:55 AM  

Another one of those puzzles where I didn't have to figure out the gimmick to solve successfully. Which I view as a fail. I originally had HEAVIES and then changed it because of ArNOLD, and because I couldn't figure out the answer to Rah Rah. Tried to come up with an important person starting with "R". rEAlIES? rEAmIES? Then realized that Rah Rah was AVID and saw what they did with AHNOLD. Annoying but maybe fair? Enjoyed most of it, but flawed theme for me. 31:40

Anonymous 9:08 AM  

Hated this one

Anonymous 9:09 AM  

Ignored the theme. The forward-reading answers were easy enough to get without it.

Inserted BACKWARDSANDINSIDEOUT first without crosses. Checking the first few Across clues fixed that quickly.

There was a very short period of time in 1835 when the U.S. had no debt.

https://treasurydirect.gov/government/historical-debt-outstanding/

For Whom the Bell Tolls 9:16 AM  

I thought the ISLET clue referenced John Donne. Probably a stretch.

kitshef 9:26 AM  

Vanishingly rare for me to know a pop culture name better than Rex, but NIECY Nash is in my wheelhouse (thank you, Monk).

Contrary to Rex's assertion, I think chess players are dramatically under-represented in crosswords. We get TAL now and then, but ANAND should have appeared many times by now given the friendly letters and his significance.

My pop culture WTF today was SADIE Sink. For while there, it looked like "Stranger Things" was going to become the new "Game of Thrones", with clues on obscure roles and actors hitting us every week. Thankfully, that never happened.

The puzzle gets off to a terrible start with AW DARN followed by VSIGN, followed by a clue for SPATULA that describes a turner (yes, I know a lot of people call turners 'spatulas' but I don't have to like it).

But then I liked almost everything else and the 'inside out' aspect to the theme I never saw coming until the end, which normally is not a good thing but today made me WOL (wow out loud).

A.I. Summary 9:32 AM  

The puzzle was architecturally impressive but lacked fun due to easy secondary clues. The author often found solving backwards simpler. They identified themes quickly but felt the gimmick could have been better integrated. The revealer, "INSIDE," involved removing letters to find backward answers, but its placement felt unnecessary. The author expressed confusion over the title's meaning. They struggled with some answers, like "HEAVIES" and "BARCADES," and found "USECASE" boring. They appreciated the clean construction overall but found no standout highlights. The author shared a personal love for coffee rituals and cats, tying it to literary references.

Karen Winter 9:36 AM  

I solved the whole puzzle without ever figuring out the gimmick. Had to go to Rex to tell me.

Also, I ♥️ Elliott Gould!

RooMonster 9:40 AM  

Hey All !
Failed to see the circles spelled out INSIDE. Never went back to look at the circles post solve. My faux pas on that.

At first, I thought this was a very well constructed puz, albeit a "no-help the solver" type theme, as who cares that reading the answers backwards sans a letter makes another word? But, then I needed a couple times to get the backwards word to help me solve! What a hypocrite.

Had ArNOLD/rEAVIES, in, never thinking to Schwarzeneggerize that R to an H. I knew rEAVIES weren't anything (although close to the Reavers from Firefly/Serenity), but couldn't come up with the H. Opened up RexWorld here, found my mistake, and changed it to get the Happy Music. So, I'm living in sin to keep my Streak going!

Rex acts like NETIPOT is a known thing. I've never heard of it, part of the NW toughness for me. I had wanted NOSEsomething, but the TOP TEN was too correct to take out. Twixt that and the rEAVIES, I was asea (har, incorporating another -esey word!)

Great job in finding all those front-regular/take-out-letter-to-get-another-word-backwards entries. I suspect a computer program was involved. If not, apologies to Adam and Rebecca.

HOW NICE sits dead center. How nice. DAS BOOT!!

Have a great Sunday!

No F'S (NOT NICE!)(They got DAS BOOT!)
RooMonster
DarrinV

Christopher XLI 9:45 AM  

The final across is actually incorrect. I support Andrew Jackson erasure as much as the next person, but our obligations were settled during his administration, so we were not IN DEBT.

Anonymous 9:46 AM  

Spitted? SPITTED!? And PAH?!?! So we can just make up words? Post modern puzzle theory.

Sutsy 9:51 AM  

Never heard of "Vishy" ANAND. How about this instead; what separates fish chips? ANAND. Dad joke for Father's Day!

egsforbreakfast 9:57 AM  

This is a misdirect trying to make you think it's looking for another name that people use for the body of water between England and France. It works just fine for crossworld.

Anonymous 10:05 AM  

If "BARCADE" is a real word (shudder), I have *never* heard of it before, and hope to never encounter it (either as crossword fill nor as an actual location) again!

Anonymous 10:20 AM  

It’s ARNOLD or AHNULD. AHNOLD is regrettably improper Schwarzeneggish.

Those of us with ADHD might have put on a shirt INSIDEOUTANDBACKWARD. And only discovered that fact when we went out in public.

Anonymous 10:27 AM  

I actually liked this one a lot. I’m a sucker for clever theme/construction. I wasn’t sold until I saw that the out letters spelled INSIDE twice! Kudos to the constructors!

egsforbreakfast 10:29 AM  

I think that the reason @Rex hasn't heard of Vishy ANAND is because, although he's a decent chess player, he gets annihilated at chess boxing. Every time.

For my 7 year old granddaughter, wearing a shirt INSIDEOUTANDBACKWARDS is SOP.

We recently had such a massive GROUPDATE that every time we got near a bathroom, TENSPEED. But thankfully, the unspoken rules of our DATEBAR BARCADES.

Opie Taylor: What's that stuff you're digging up, Barney?
Barney Fife: That's OREOPIE.

I don't wanna be DUPED, but OPINE and OPEDS are circling around Dupeville.

I thought this was a wonderful puzzle, where you could use the backward clue if you didn't get the forward one. Very fun, well-clued and a bear and a half to construct, I'm sure. Thanks a ton, Adam Wagner and Rebecca Goldstein.

NYCPianist 10:37 AM  

OY vey, what a drag. Spare me from unnecessary clues that only slow me down.

Anonymous 10:47 AM  

NETIPOT was the first answer I entered, and I saw the theme immediately. Then with INDOOR I confirmed that the circles are only ignored in the backwards Acrosses, not in the Downs. Some answers came easy (DNA BANKS, TOILET<), others not so much (e. g. neither TRADES ON nor (NOSE ART)<)

Bobby Fischer's middle name is James, I see how the mix-up with "J" names can happen. ANAND was a gimme for me, but I can see non-Americans (like me) struggling with ANAND x DNC. I can never remember these poiltical initialisms and I always forget which party has the donkey and which one has the elephant.

Anonymous 10:53 AM  

Totally agree - no joy at all.

jae 11:03 AM  

Easy-medium. I realized early that I didn’t need the theme to solve this one, so I ignored the second parts of the theme clues, solved it as themeless and figured out how to parse the answers post-solve.

Cute idea, liked it.

RooMonster 11:04 AM  

I'll agree with you on PAH, but SPITTED is a thing. When you put whole chickens on a rotisserie rod, it's called putting in on the spit. So you are spitting the chicken while you're doing it, once done, the chicken is SPITTED.

RooMonster Have Done It In A Job Once Upon A Time Guy

Anonymous 11:15 AM  

As did some others, I didn't notice the circles spelled INSIDE going down on the left then up on the right, just noticed all the circles are in syme horizontal rows.

Teedmn 11:21 AM  

I solved a la @Nancy today, i.e. as a themeless and ignored the circles because I didn't see the theme. I kind of forgot about the revealer and just looked at the puzzle title which gave no clue in my opinion. Tossing and Turning merely had me looking for answers that turned or bounced up and down.

But having had the theme explained, it works nicely and I admire the extra INSIDE EDISNI in the circles.

Thanks, Adam and Rebecca!

thefogman 11:24 AM  

The gimmick was not worth the effort.

kitshef 11:37 AM  

I used to own a T-shirt that read "The Official Dan Quayle T-shirt". In order for the writing to be seen, you had to wear it with the tag on the outside and in front.

BlueStater 11:39 AM  

Good Lord. What a shambles. The tricks and metatricks and metametatricks and gigametametatricks just ruined the entire experience. This mess epitomizes what WS has done to the NYTXW.

Anonymous 11:41 AM  

Okay but the ATARI logo is supposed to look like Mt. Fuji. Someone please explain how it's also like pong.

Anonymous 11:46 AM  

USE CASES are pretty much daily references for us software engineers

Nancy 11:56 AM  

Once I realized that I could just enter the answers normally, without manipulating anything INSIDE OUT AND BACKWARDS, I soldiered on -- even though I wasn't having any fun worth talking about. I hoped that eventually I'd be able to solve the "it's all Greek to me" NW corner -- but I wasn't. Did the whole AW DARN and still couldn't.

That's because the governator is ARNOLD not AHNOLD. He is not AHNOLD, Adam and Rebecca!!!! Why are you doing this to me?

And HEAVIES for the "big important people"? No, just no!!!!!! HEAVIES are the baddies in movies. Maybe a word for the not-so-slim? But they are not big, important people!

I don't know and don't want to know anything about the nasal passages-clearing thing.

The conceit of this was torturous and I didn't want to bother with it. So I didn't. Turned nothing INSIDE OUT AND BACKWARDS. The fill was chock-full of pop culture. The NW was outrageously unfair. Don't know why I bothered to almost finish this.

Anonymous 12:03 PM  

It’s a real trademark. I hate learning new things as much as you do.

MetroGnome 12:26 PM  

"Easy"? This glut of names and brand names? You must be kidding.

MetroGnome 12:32 PM  

. . . and what the hell does "Zhuzh" mean, and in whose vocabulary is it supposed to exist??

Anonymous 12:33 PM  

I enjoyed this one and the time it took.
And there is no ISLET of Man.

Les S. More 12:48 PM  

I got stuck on the John Dunne title for a bit but ISLET is good here.

Anonymous 12:55 PM  

My sweater’ is on backwards and inside out and you say hooooowwwww appropriate
-Alanis

Benbini 12:57 PM  

Poor TS ELIOT being paired with TOILET.

jb129 12:58 PM  

I guess it was fine for those who got the 'gimmick' - for me it worked fine as a themeless. (BTW - although I've posted stuff on-line often (songs, pics, etc.) for some reason I can't here so I'm gonna assume it's a blog thing that I just don't get? If anyone feels like explaining, I had a cute 'Father's Day' card for all the Dads out there (Rex included). Anyway, I'm sorry I didn't get the puzzle conceptually, but I thank you Rebecca & Adam :)

Ken Freeland 1:00 PM  

How refreshing after last Sunday's PPP cesspool. I had to look at NIECY a long, long time before finally accepting it as an answer, but I was vindicated...didn't appreciate the PPP cross with ROSIE...aside from this, an ejoyable and sometimes challenging romp...the theme was as cute as some of the cluing!

okanaganer 1:04 PM  

Well the theme was clever, and the revealer was awesome. However I usually find Sundays a slog, and this certainly was because I didn't get the trick until near the end. And then, and thennnnnnn, they put in that nasty H in AHNOLD to end on a sour note. Technically finished with an error cuz I thought REAVIES was yet another damn slang term I've never heard of.

A few typeovers, including ASIDE before APART (from) at 95 across, and SPANK before SPENT for 61 down "Totally beat" (I was thinking verb, not adjective).

It was totally unnecessary to clue TRIO using Vince Guaraldi, but thank you for it anyway!

Nancy 1:05 PM  

Adam and Rebecca don't say in their Constructor Notes how they found words within words that go backwards when you drop one letter. Since you have a mind that works that way and I don't, I'm wondering: Is it possible to come up with all these themers on your own or would a constructor be greatly helped by some sort of software program? I'm thinking that if I tried to come up with even one such themer, it would probably take me four nights, if I found one even then. And the trial-and-error aspect -- "No, this doesn't work; no that doesn't work either", as I abandoned letter combo after letter combo -- would drive me completely insane.

Anonymous 1:14 PM  

There are several in Philly, and I assume in other cities too. It’s fun to play games and drink sometimes!

Anonymous 1:15 PM  

Lol @ chess boxing

Les S. More 1:16 PM  

@kitshef, what's wrong with clueing SPATULA as a flipper? I have a drawer full of them and while some of them - the flexible silicone ones - are used for stirring or scraping out the last of whatever's in the mixing bowl, others - stiffer, often metal, wood, or hard plastic - are used to turn things over. Flip them. My faves are a couple of fish spatulas that are light and delicate and perfect for flipping a piece of nicely seared halibut before throwing the pan into the oven to complete the cooking. Liked the clue.

JC66 1:17 PM  

@jb 129

I emailed you my Embedding Cheat Sheet. I hope it helps.

Anonymous 1:19 PM  

Arnold. His name is Arnold. SMH.

Anonymous 1:40 PM  

Fun steady progress from beginning to end. Never heard of Niecy but knew Anand. Once I gronked the TOPTEN it was helpful having two clues for each themer. This one took 2 cups of coffee, typical for a Sunday.

smalltowndoc 2:06 PM  

I enjoyed this puzzle, even though it was a little too easy for me. The construction was great and the long revealer spot on. I have one minor nitpick about a clue: 125A. The U.S. was debt free for a rew years during the Jackson administration (1835-1837).

jb129 2:13 PM  

@JC66 Thank you, Jerry
I got it - I'll play around with it :)

thefogman 2:24 PM  

I still don’t get how the ATARI logo represents the game Pong. But somehow it does according to Wikipedia:

The Atari symbol was designed by George Opperman in 1972/3.[2] At the time, Opperman was the head of his own design agency, Opperman-Harrington Inc.[3] The Atari logo, later described as a "Fuji" (as in Mount Fuji in Japan), looks like the letter "A", and was meant to represent the game Pong, with "two opposing video game players with the center of the Pong court in the middle."[4] In addition to the Atari logo, Opperman produced art for Atari's coin-op cabinets,[5] and backglass artwork for Atari pinball games such as Airborne Avenger [6] and Superman.

jb129 2:48 PM  
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Anonymous 2:52 PM  

I mean…I’m aware of a spit. But SPITTED just feels shoe-horned into verb form. Like the kids do with {{{shudder}}} “mathing”

Masked and Anonymous 2:59 PM  

Well, hey -- a clever, multi-faceted puztheme ... with tons of themers and a grid-spannish revealer. All good.

For M&A, not enough puztheme humor to sustain a SunPuz-sized solvequest. I'da enjoyed this theme Much Much More in a ThursPuz-sized rodeo ring.

staff weeject picks: LTE & EBT. Not the abbreves of mystery U see all that often in yer puzfill.

fave things: WHOSAYSSO & HOTMESSES. The Circles filled with INSIDE & EDISNI.

Thanx for gangin up on us, Mr. Wagner dude & Ms. Goldstein darlin.

Masked & Anonymo6Us

... and now for a "Sunday-sized" runt ...

"Mix and Matches" - 7x9 themed runt puzzle:

**gruntz**

M&A

Anonymous 3:01 PM  

Tell me you’ve never seen Queer Eye without telling me you’ve never seen Queer Eye.

Anonymous 3:05 PM  

Barcades have been around for decades, both as a concept (lower-case b) and a trademarked chain (capital B). I know of multiple within a few miles of me, even though I’ve never visited.

Les S. More 3:15 PM  

Aaaargh! One wrong keystroke and my entire comment is erased! So I'll try again in a shorter form.

Started last night after my team lost a playoff game so I wasn't in a good space. Restarted this morning looking at 23A NETIPOT but not remembering how to spell it. When I worked that out I sort of had the theme. Puzzle became much more enjoyable after that.

Some nits: 11D NIECY? Who?? 115A WASPIER. Is that kind of racist? And 40A NOSEART just sounds dumb. And as for TEASNOBS, I drink Darjeeling and I am not a snob about it. I also drink various Orange Pekoe blends, including Tetley English Breakfast, which my wife calls "builders' tea", probably due to the influence of her very, very English grandmother.

72A SADIE. I'm intrigued by the poster @Rex included about the play "John Proctor is the Villain". I played John Proctor in college theatre and though I thought the casting was weird - why cast an 18 year old hippie (me) as a 50 year old Puritan? - I thought it kinda, sorta, maybe worked. If nothing else it made me appreciate Miller more. One of your best. Now I want to see "John Proctor is the Villain." Has the play been filmed? Have any of you seen it?

jb129 3:35 PM  

https://rexwordpuzzle.blogspot.com/
HAPPY FATHER'S DAY.jpg
If it's not this, I give up!

pabloinnh 4:05 PM  

I do that all the time and usually ctrl+z will restore things, and that's the whole list of my computer tricks.

pabloinnh 4:26 PM  

This took quite a while as I was watching the Red Sox sweep the Yanks and had to keep switching glasses. Well worth the effort.

I hit the revealer early and immediately filled it in with just INS in place. I have always maintained that the only way to put on a t-shirt, in my case a plain white undershirt with no label, is to put it on, then take it off and turn it around because you had it wrong.

It took me forever to pick up the trick, which I attribute to distraction. Never did get AHNOLD, nor did I go back and try to fix it. Today I met NIECY and ANAND, who both seem like good crossword names. Also met SADIE, who to me has always been Miss Hawkins. And BARCADES. Really?

Amazing construction to be sure but I'm with the mostly-joyless crew on this one. A Well-crafted effort with a Ridiculously Great concept, AW and RG.. The lack of ha ha in this one is probably on me, and thanks for some fun, at least.

Anonymous 4:58 PM  

It’s how we spell the word that you really only hear. When you want to make some that sure plain into something dance, this is what you do. (It may be of Chinese origin?). It’s been around for years.

kitshef 5:03 PM  

@Les S. More. Those things you use for stirring or scraping, I would call a scraper. That thing you use to turn the halibut, I would call a fish slice. Those things people use to flip pancakes, I would call a turner or pancake-turner. A spatula would be used to ice a cake (if you were not using a scraper) or as a tongue-depressor.

Anonymous 5:07 PM  

I thought islets were the little holes that you threaded your shoe laces through... ;)

Liveprof 5:12 PM  

Sadie Sink is a rare beauty. Literally. The red hair/blue eyes combination is the rarest hair/eye combo there is, statistically.

Anonymous 5:31 PM  

What is Old Me about? 121A .....

Son Volt 6:19 PM  

@Anon 8:07a - my son is a big fan - me not so much. We saw them in Asbury a few years ago - highlights being the few cover songs they did.

My first Dead show was ‘77 in Glens Falls - connected with Jerry right off the bat - any jam band after that has been a tough sell for me.

Anonymous 6:30 PM  

This one had me at HOT MESSES!

Les S. More 6:46 PM  

@kitshef. I've never heard the term fish slice before so, of course, I had to look it up. Seems it's a Britishism. Odd that I've never heard it seeing as my family roots are in Yorkshire and the Isle of Man and my wife's roots are also in northern England. But not so odd if you consider how little either of our families were interested in cooking, I suppose. Now those icing tools are spatulas for sure, and I love using them. Especially the articulated ones. For every one in my kitchen, I have 2 in my studio for mixing oil colours. TIL fish slice but I'm still gonna overuse the term spatula. Sorry if that grates.

Anonymous 6:51 PM  

Anonymous 8:24 AM
I remember the Lio vs Leo discussion. I looked it up. Leo is the first nickname that comes up if you google Since it is commonly used, Leo is a valid answer for crosswords however “wrong” international football fans think it is. That’s the American language and that’s also crosswords.
All my grandparents were Italian immigrants. And I can read some standard Italian. Again what people say ( with deceny exceptions- less and less these days) can be in crosswords
And Americans most definitely say signoras , however it hurts my ears. In crossworld those are the rules. So both are valid.

dgd 7:02 PM  

Naillhost
I actually used the theme to check some answers. So I had a different experience.
But you mentioned HEAVIES and right there in the beginning I had a dnf. Had put in ARNOLD and never thought of h.

RooMonster 7:08 PM  

NIECY Nash is also known for "Reno 911" and "Claws". Rather a famous lady.

Roo

Anonymous 7:19 PM  

3:01 PM Anonymous
I have never seen Queer Eye.
I avoid all reality shows. But eventually I got the meaning. Thanks for explaining the source.

dgd 7:52 PM  

DNF as some did at A-NOLD and - EAVIES Didn’t go back to check. . Otherwise fairly easy. The gimmick helped me on occasion but I didn’t bother to figure out all of the reverses minus the circle. (I see Gary Jugert wasn’t bothered by TSELIOT & toilet, knowing Eliot’s reputation. I didn’t see it till I got here though.)
I saw WASPIER and wondered if anyone would complain. I saw one. I am Italian American. Until the coming of MAGA I thought that most people avoided ethnic slurs except for mob references for Italian Americans ( which has driven me nuts my whole life) and put downs of WASPS based on their background. If I am to be fair, I would say that WASPIER clue answer combo may have stepped over the line.
What will be 248 years out of 250, close enough for crosswords!
Nancy, for whatever reason, people replicating Schwarzenegger’s accent started dropping the r in Arnold and writing it with an h. Since German has an r sound, it makes no sense to me. But Ahnold is in use so crosswords appropriate however it annoyed me today. (See dnf above).

Anonymous 8:04 PM  

I love that!

Anonymous 9:23 PM  

Ahnold. Seriously?

Gary Jugert 11:06 PM  

@dgd 7:52 PM
I liked AHNOLD, can totally understand why some didn't, and unfortunately not surprised to believe they're like, "Well, we could go racial with WASPIER or we could go cloudy with WISPIER? Let's stick with race." As Shorsey says, "So dumb."

Anonymous 11:28 PM  

+1

Anonymous 11:31 PM  

Hated the premise so didn’t engage, didn’t like the wordplay so half the answers made no sense, genuinely feel like I’ve learned enough by now so anything I don’t already know is a personal offense.

CDilly52 2:10 AM  

Well, I love both coffee and tea. Like OFL, coffee with my cat is a morning ritual outside now that I am retired and in gorgeous NorCal. Used to be the desperate grab of the largest mug possible on the way out the door to work and the dreadful store brand battery acid the office coffee fund provided. I would say I am both a tea and coffee aficionado. I love the rituals associated with both beverages.

I know a TEA SNOB or two. While very knowledgeable (like an aficionado) they vocally and literally turn up their noses at “the bag” as they say. They only drink imported loose tea hand plucked from the appropriate flush (depending on tea type) and will (often condescendingly) instruct you on precisely how to prepare their brew if you offer it. I put up with my well known snobs because they are my dear friends. They allow me to make fun of what I call their “over enthusiastic” tea behavior. Like coffee, there’s lots to know about tea that’s fascinating. All you tea lovers in the Chicago metro should check out Todd & Holland in Forest Park. Bill Todd, one of the original owners was a generous, knowledgeable tea aficionado. I believe he sold the business but his legacy remains. All staff are wonderfully friendly and knowledgeable. I still order from them and they know that I want to know when my two favorite Darjeelings are coming and always let me know in advance.

I talked about tea and my friends at T & H because I really haven’t much to say about the puzzle. It was easy and I’d guess fun to construct, but the say the clues were written didn’t give me any push back at all. None. In fact, I opened it, started in, and failed to notice the circles (again). I was somewhere well past the middle when I bothered to read the whole clue for BARCADES only because it was the single front end theme clue I had for which I had no idea 🤷‍♀️ f an answer. So, I solved readnthe entire clue, through “oh, it’s going to be anSEA something and started in to solve some downs. When the downs did not produce SEA at the front of 98A, yet were clearly correct, I forged ahead. By then I had INSIDE OUT AND BACK, finished that one and discovered that it’s the reveal. Got the theme “officially” figured out, but no thrill or even anything other than a “huh” and went on to finish. Once done, I went back to look at the theme answers and the circled letters.

Really good job constructors, on what I call a “constructors’ puzzle.” This must have been fun to construct for sure, but it lacked difficulty (itself seemingly a theme for this past week) but not surprises or real cleverness/humor.

And I will be shocked if anyone even reads this given the late hour. I had oral surgery Friday afternoon and have buried my face under ice packs since then. I look like I’ve been in a bar fight, but am starting to feel better.

New week will start (here) in 51 minutes. Hope it’s a good one for everyone.

CDilly52 2:19 AM  

I had the same construction thought, @Nancy and ended up assuming that there is a program that can help one search for the necessary variables. This is something I wished I could ask my husband who, his clients always said could get a computer to do anything.

CDilly52 2:25 AM  

Especially on days (or a week!) with puzzles that drag a bit (or as today, a lot, I look forward to your posts for cheer, and always find it. Tus publicaciones son ciertamente mejores que esta.

Bob Mills 5:44 AM  

Finally caught on to the gimmick after three pauses for church, a meal, and a ball game on TV. Finished it, but not sure it was worth the effort.

Anonymous 4:51 PM  

Not half as good as LA Times xwords

JeffLeff 5:34 PM  

I've only started doing crosswords this year. I spent a lot of time on this one, and was happy to figure out the gimmick. But I missed out on solving by ONE letter. I don't know chess champions, and I couldn't think of DNC for "Donkey grp." Maybe for some reason, I knew "grp." implied a contraction, but I didn't think it was an acronym? I dunno.

I'm slowly getting better at this stuff, but have a lot of "crosswordese" to learn! By the way, what does "WOE" stand for? I get the concept by context, but can't quite figure out (if it's an acronym) what it stands for? My best guess is "What On Earth"?

Anonymous 6:13 PM  

Yes, that’s how Arnold pronounces his name with his heavy Austrian accent.

Anonymous 6:16 PM  

No those are aglets. Islet to small for human habitation.

Anonymous 6:32 PM  

Can someone explain 107d. Craving
Jones?

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