THEME: MISSISSIPPI River (18D: Natural dividing line on a U.S. map, as suggested by this puzzle's circled letters) — almost all the states that the MISSISSIPPI runs through can be found on either side of MISSISSIPPI in the grid (in the form of state codes, located inside the pairs of circled squares)
Theme answers:
SIAMESE TWIN (17A: Chang or Eng Bunker, notably)
MOTOR SKILLS (27A: Throwing a ball and grasping a pencil, e.g.)
STAR WITNESS (45A: Provider of crucial testimony)
PLAGIARISMS (59A: Copyright wrongs)
Word of the Day: Nikki GIOVANNI (32A: Grammy-nominated poet Nikki ___) —
Yolande Cornelia "Nikki" Giovanni Jr. (June 7, 1943 – December 9, 2024) was an American poet, writer, commentator, activist and educator. One of the world's best-known African-American poets, her work includes poetry anthologies, poetry recordings, and nonfiction essays, and covers topics ranging from race and social issues to children's literature. She won numerous awards, including the Langston Hughes Medal and the NAACP Image Award. She was nominated for a 2004 Grammy Award for her poetry album, The Nikki Giovanni Poetry Collection. Additionally, she was named as one of Oprah Winfrey's 25 "Living Legends". Giovanni was a member of The Wintergreen Women Writers Collective.
Giovanni gained initial fame in the late 1960s as one of the foremost authors of the Black Arts Movement. Influenced by the Civil Rights Movement and Black Power Movement of the period, her early work provides a strong, militant African-American perspective, leading one writer to dub her the "Poet of the Black Revolution". During the 1970s, she began writing children's literature, and co-founded a publishing company, NikTom Ltd, to provide an outlet for other African-American women writers. [...]
Giovanni received numerous awards and held 27 honorary degrees from various colleges and universities. She was also given the key to more than two dozen cities. Giovanni was honored with the NAACP Image Award seven times. She had a South American bat species, Micronycteris giovanniae, named after her in 2007.
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Uh, you missed a state. Which is just one of several things that makes this theme not work well at all. Pairs of circled letters just don't seem that exciting to start with, and these pairs force some fairly awkward answers, like a singular SIAMESE TWIN and (much stranger) a plural PLAGIARISMS. "Be right back, gonna go do some PLAGIARISMS." That is not a word that wants to be in the plural at all. But the themers have to match in length, so SIAMESE TWIN comes in short and PLAGIARISMS comes in long, all so the theme can "work." So thematic constraints lead to geographic absurdities (the complete elimination of MN because it doesn't have another state to "pair" with it) as well as theme answer absurdities (one twin, two PLAGIARISMS). But then again, the theme isn't constrained enough, in that the states are So Far Apart from each other. Famously, notably, visibly (see map above), the MISSISSIPPI runs through (or alongside) all the states in question, but in the grid, only two of the ten states are actually found alongside the MISSISSIPPI. Most of them have somehow drifted away from the river, and some of them ... I mean, my god, Wisconsin 's up around where Maine should be, and Louisiana is over in southern California somewhere. Just ridiculous physical placement. Come on. Do the thing or don't do the thing. Get MN in there, get those states closer to the damn river, or scrap the whole enterprise.
And for the second day in a row, the fill in the puzzle was startlingly weak. After encountering STU and EKED in quick succession, before I'd even really gotten started, I stopped and let out a sigh, took a deep breath, and braced myself for what was (likely) to come, which is to say, an avalanche of subpar fill. And sure enough, it came. SES ... is there anything worse than SES? (7D: French possessive). Yes, sure, sometimes you're desperate and you need a French possessive, but that's an answer I'd just eliminate from my wordlist so I never had to see it again. Don't even let the software suggest it. And that's just the beginning today. IDS crossing IMS, ELIE alongside SSNS, ILE and ALVA and AER and ASPS and AWS IPAS EPSOM DEL TTOP TERRE ... and a few more repeaters I don't care to list right now. If you had maybe half this much gunk, OK, every puzzle makes compromises here and there. But this grid was primarily compromises. This is what happens when you build a grid with so many 3s 4s and 5s, and then don't take the time to really polish your grid. Again, the thematic constraints are probably partially to blame, but that just takes me back to my first point, which is why do this theme at all if you can't nail it? The mid-range fill could've livened things up a bit, but it's hard to get excited by stuff like LAB SITE and TRESTLE and SEEPED. I guess SUPERMOONS is gonna be exciting to some (I don't really know what those are and wrote in SUPERNOVAE) (3D: Celestial phenomena observed at perigees). I enjoyed seeing Nikki GIOVANNI (as clued). The clue for LEGO SET has me intrigued (30D: The World Map is the largest one to date, with 11,695 pieces). I actually think ON FIRE is pretty nice, as 6-letter answers go. But overall, the fill on this one was really disappointing. Objectively below average, overwhelmingly stale.
It was easy, though, so I doubt many solvers are going to be terribly bothered by its shortcomings. I don't remember struggling anywhere with this one. Oh, except for the SUPERNOVAE error, which wasn't too hard to dig my way out of. That [I, for one] clue (49D) has been used a ton of times, for a variety of answers ranging from ROMAN NUMERAL to PRONOUN to HALOGEN (where the "I" stands for Iodine). The clue first appeared in 1999, where, like today, it was used for VOWEL. Anyway, I hesitated there a little and let crosses help me out. But otherwise, I'm struggling to see struggle points.
Bullets:
41A: National park that's home to the Pretty Rocks Landslide (DENALI) — I did not know this. Apparently the landslide is ongoing and has (since 2021) made the sole road through DENALI National Park impassable. I was startled to find that the National Park Service still has language up on its website for Pretty Rock Landslide that acknowledges the role of climate change in accelerated erosion. There's even a big subheading on the site that reads: "Climate Change as Causal Agent." I'd've expected this administration to have scrubbed such language the way they scrubbed pictures of Black people, including war heroes, from Pentagon websites. Frankly, I'm semi-surprised they haven't literally taken the letters "DEI" out of DENALI ("NAL!") but looks like the president has already simply changed the name of the mountain back to Mount White Guy Who Never Set Foot in Alaska. At any rate, there's one change to DENALI that only this grid can achieve, which is to relocate it to the northern border of ARkansas.
62A: Sounds heard during a cuteness overload (AWS) — What is a "cuteness overload?" I assume it involves multiple people, because it's hard to imagine one person saying "AW" repeatedly, no matter how cute the child / kitten / puppy in question.
58A: One of four featured on the Yale Nature Walk (ELM) — no crossword would be complete without a Yale reference being shoehorned in somewhere.
2D: Sticking point for a gardener? (STAKE) — you stick a STAKE in the ground primarily for plant support, I think (my wife is the gardener, not me). I wanted STAVE here, but that's for barrel-making (cooping? coopering? yes, coopering) not gardening.
Noble effort I guess - the trick has promise but far too cumbersome to pull off. Agree with the big guy - the two letter states just don’t do it for me.
Easy. Liked it better than @Rex did (as often happens).
Overwrites: Bridges are supported by TRuSses as well as a TRESTLE (8D) dNA before RNA for the cell strand at 29D My 47A seatbelt alert sounds more like a tone than a BEEP
WOEs: Poet Nikki GIOVANNI at 32A I didn't know Torre DEL Greco at 36D, but the DEL was easy to infer
Great idea for a theme, and well constructed. Kudos to the constructors. Only brief trouble spot for me was the SE corner, because I assumed Lionel Messi's nickname was "Lio" instead of LEO, plus I had "ahs" instead oh AWS.
I thought I would get along with Jeff better than I normally do up north, but we reverted back to form as we moved mid-south. Not that there is inherently anything wrong with his grids, I just never seem to be on his wavelength. I was interested to see how the theme related to MISSISSIPPI, but did not discern the 2-letter abbreviations - so I had to suffer through the overly-strained fill for no payoff.
I’ll wait for Gary to see if this one was over-laden with trivia and propers, or if it was a wavelength issue and thus just my perception. So to me, this one had promise but ultimately fell short. I suppose if I had determined the theme, after one or two states it may have been , ok - that’s all there is to it ?
SUPERMOONS crossing GIOVANNI and DENALI is tough sledding for a Wednesday as well.
As I ignored the theme, which as usual had no effect on the solving experience, I was left to contemplate the heavily segmented grid, full of three-letter fill. Not a fan.
The Yale clue made me guffaw. The university is, of course, notable. Particular courses at it are not. And this walk is... a route through town where you pass by some trees, not even a park? And wow, four of them. Real impressive stuff, Yale. "The Yale Nature Walk is a project developed in Professor Marta Wells’s course EE&B 223L ... in conjunction with Yale Academic Technologists... The project, which has spanned over three years, aims to develop a mobile pedagogical framework to engage students with authentic, collaborative, and creative active learning..." A reasonable pedagogical exercise; a parochial, navel-gazing clue for a puzzle with an international audience.
Missed *two* states, @RP! The Mississippi shifted course way back, forming the Kentucky Bend, an exclave of KY that's fully surrounded by MO, TN, and the river.
Sweet to have a tribute to a source of many tributaries.
My favorite part was the cluing misdirects. Examples: [Keeps burning, say] – Does “Keeps” mean “continues” or “causes to continue”? [Appreciation] – Does it mean “enjoyment of” or "increase"? [Does some creative accounting] – Does “accounting” mean “bookkeeping” or “telling?
Map puzzles don’t come around too often. I like them because I’m visualizing a map as I’m solving, adding dimension to the experience. One that strongly sticks in my mind still is Simeon Seigel’s 3/17/24 Sunday puzzle, a mind-blower that I highly recommend.
Today’s puzzle tripped off the memory of a song I love that I haven’t thought about in decades, “The Battle of New Orleans” (1959), which started: “In 1814 we took a little trip Along with Colonel Jackson down the mighty Mississip’”
So, I not only got a kick out of your lovely theme, Sam and Jeff, but its bonuses as well. ‘Twas a box of goodies, and thank you for making this!
Absolutely nothing wrong with a puzzle based on whether states are east or west of the Mississippi. Why is OFL obsessing over the fact that not all of the states are on the shores of the Mississippi?
Also, OUCH: "It was easy, though, so I doubt many solvers are going to be terribly bothered by its shortcomings." It's one thing to be critical of the constructor but why malign faithful readers?
Ah well, if this puzzle didn’t have to have a theme it would have been fine without the circled letters. Trying to do what Rex suggests and have all the state initials actually abutting the river might be too difficult, so maybe that approach is infeasible. As it is, this one works but no “wow” appeal. Liked @Lewis trip down memory lane with the “mighty Mississip”—brain then jumped to SUPERMOONS and Credence’s “Bad Moon Rising”. That’s the way it goes some mornings…
As always, I agree on Rex’s observation of absurd singulars and plurals. I imagine the pluralization of AWS was imagined in a context where they came from multiple people, such as, “Many AWS emerged when the guests met the host’s puppy,” but of course, no one would ever say that.
Hey All ! I thought Rex was saying the States themselves weren't touching the River, but he meant the Circled Abbrs. in the puz grid weren't touching MISSISSIPPI. Aha, I was like, "What you talkin' 'bout Rex?" First Themer could've been SIAMWINTER, thereby getting both States to touch. Y'all can come up with other suggestions for all of the Themers, see what kind of fun things we can come up with.
Decent puz, played fairly quick. Got yer ASS right out of the gate! IMS so glad. Har
Although I know that the Chang and Eng Bunker were referred to as “Siamese Twins” in the past, I’m surprised that clue passed editorial muster in this day and age. It is unconscionable that these two men were subjected to people gawking at them in their lifetime and now appear as an entry in a crossword puzzle because the words conveniently contain two state abbreviations.
Understanding how hard it is simply to construct a valid crossword grid, and Rex certainly does, having pairs of states separated by the Mississippi is quite a feat. In a couple of cases, the river is the boundary between them. I think this puzzle is a marvel.
I was surprised by the reference to SIAMESE twins as well, given that the term is controversial, for good reason. But from what I read online, the NYT continues to use the term.
Cars don't kills people, MOTORSKILLS people. So remember, when motors are outlawed, only outboard motors will be lawful.
I took my boy Albert to see the Salton Sea but it was dried up. "Why isn't there any water, Dad?" he asked. "That's a SEASONAL SEASONAL" I replied.
Last night I composed @Rex's imagined take, and it wasn't too far off: Why these themers? I mean what happened to poor Kentucky and Minnesota? There are 10 states that border or contain the MISSISSIPPI and 8 of them make the puzzle? You couldn't find any way to get in a KY or a MN?
To me, this theme sounds better on paper. But then, many solvers are soundlessly solving on paper. What I mean is that I like and admire the idea, but it somehow didn't make for a fun solve. But still, it beats a sharp STAKE in the eye. Thanks, Sam Koperwas and Jeff Chen.
Forget singular v plural answers - this term is now considered disrespectful - the preferred term is "conjoined twins" and agree this entry was not appropriate
I guess the MISSISSIPPI divides those states from each other. Do I care? Do you?
I solved this as a perfectly swell themeless -- ignoring those tiny little circles as is my custom. I remembered those SIAMESE TWINS from my youth -- which was a l-o-o-ong time ago. You can be forgiven for not knowing Cheng and Eng. But today I learned that their last name is Bunker.
I liked the clue/answer for MOTOR SKILLS -- which did not come to me and for which I needed many crosses. STAR WITNESS was much easier.
PLAGIARISMS may be the worst plural of convenience I've seen this year. Are you there, @Anoa Bob?
A perfectly fine Wednesday outing with no need for solvers to pay any attention to the state abbrevs in the tiny little circles. Why do constructors bother with such things? Well, it makes a NYTXW acceptance far more likely, I'd venture.
Oh. They're states. In the wrong place. Thanks 🦖. Couldn't figure it out. Ridiculous little circles. Not too gunky until you look at practically every single down, then GAH.
At some point I was told the term Siamese twin is problematic and the preferred term is conjoined twin.
The seatbelt beeper in my car goes bananas if it's unbuckled for more than 10 seconds making paying in a drive-thru a rather dramatic affair. I think my 1971 Datsun pickup with zero effort put into safety or comfort or reliability or style was the zenith of the automobile industry.
1 "Could you go do something and leave me alone," and "Look, I'm on a date, I would appreciate you minding your own business." 2 "You're only hurting yourself," "Now you'll have to work fast food for the rest of your life," and "Wikipedia is not a reliable source." 3 Videos of French people dilly-dalliating in the back seat of a Cube. 4 "It's not Legos, darn it." 5 New Zealander fibs.
1 SIAMESE TWIN YAP (~) 2 PLAGIARISM SAWS 3 SES NISSAN SMUT 4 LEGO SET OATH (~) 5 KIWI SPINS A TALE
My Fascinating Crossword Uniclue Keepsake from Last Year: Tweaked for twang. GAGA ABOUT SITAR.
Hmmph, no mention of Minnesota, the headwaters of the river which starts in Lake Itasca. The Mississippi joins the Minnesota river in St. Paul which then forms the border between MN and WI from there on south to the IA border, as Rex's map shows.
I've never been to AR, TN or MS. Arkansas is supposed to be beautiful, I've heard from friends who've been, and my husband's cousins moved from NJ to TN this year so I suppose we'll mosey on down there eventually, do some GADding.
If it's not Nikki Monaj, I don't know who it is. But after Googling her post-solve, I'm ashamed to admit I didn't know Nikki Giovanni. Her Grammy nomination seems to be the least interesting thing about her. I read her poem (per the internet, her most famous) Nikki Rosa. Very evocative.
Thanks, Sam and Jeff. But as Rex mentions, MN should have made the grid.
Easy-medium. No costly erasures but I did not know GIOVANNI or how to spell PLAGIARISM. I did put in MISSISSIPPI with no crosses which was very helpful.
Worth it all just for the inclusion of the great (and still underrated) Ms. Giovanni. We discuss "Nikki/Rosa" in my ENG Composition classes every semester, and it never fails to be one of the most enlightened (and enlightening) conversations we have.
I was born in KY, so I feel a bit left out by this puzzle, even though I grew up in WI, which made the cut--unlike the MISSISSIPPI River's headwaters in MN. I know, that would be a lot of theme answers, but my feeling is keep trying until you get them all.
I have a weakness for symmetrical sets of letters running along the edges of the puzzle from a corner, so the AS/AS crossing in the NW was nice, but I wish YAP had been SAP, which would have given us ASS/ASS crossing at the A.
I like the work GAD, and I like the word meander, but the first to me means a speedy flitting about, while the latter means slowly following a bendy course.
And .... It's Thomas Edison day! Both his middle name and his LAB SITE! I checked to see if this was his birthday, but that's February 11; maybe he'll come back then.
As for TERRE Haute, that's the birthplace of Eugene V. Debs, but I guess if you're going to clue it as a partial you need to leave out those details.
He didn't notice it -- he even says that there was nothing left to pair Minnesota with. I'll admit that the KY frontage isn't very long, but it is there!
I never paid any attention to the circles & solved it pretty quickly too as a themeless. Going to the blog to see what it was. DENALI - 2nd time in 2 weeks? Thank you, Jeff & Sam :)
I love Legos. As i sit here, just within direct sight, I have the Saturn 5 rocket, the Concorde, and a tuxedo cat that resembles a long-lost kitty. The Titanic is in the next room. I've made that World Map LEGOSET. I would not recommend it. It's about as fun as doing a jigsaw puzzle of a QR code. Or a lame Sunday NYTXW the size of your dining table.
I agree with others that if you are going to do this theme, you can't just skip two of the states.
We fired our cannon till the barrel melted down, So we grabbed an alligator and we brought another round. We filled his head with cannonballs and powdered his behind, And when we touched the powder off the gator lost his mind."
No alligators were harmed in the singing of this song.
I didn’t read that as maligning faithful readers—he’s just making the point that bad puzzles bother people more when the puzzles are hard and solvers are forced to spend more time staring at a sub-par grid.
I missed the correct east or west location of the states -- although LA, like MN, is on both sides. The perfect method would have an MN word, crossing the initial M, and an LA word crossing the final I. Second best would be to leave out LA and put in KY; not ideal, but at least you'd have an arguable defense of the choice.
My earlier comment was getting too long, so I didn't mention PLAGIARISMS -- but we have actual phrases such as "instances of...." or "cases of..." solely because no one ever says PLAGIARISMS.
Various novels I read in my youth mentioned EPSOM salts, and even more the Derby Stakes run at EPSOM Downs; so when computers came along, and I needed a printer, it took me years to learn that the brand name was actually EPSOn.
Absolutely top shelf music today with Nina and Dinah.63A cries out for Helen Humes "Airplane Blues." Not really about airplanes but it's always (in)appropriate. Another strong, insightful, fearless column by OFL as Jeff Chen is a made man (capo?) in the crossword world.
I didn't care much for this theme, as a non-American who doesn't know the map well. But I have to admit that it's crazy that a set of possible themers even exists, with all the constraints. You have to place the states in the correct positions relative to each other, AND each themer has to include a pair of states while at the same time intersecting MISSISSIPPI. At that point, I'd say it's pretty much inevitable to have an awkward themer like plural PLAGIARISMS.
I would imagine that Minnesota was not included because the Mississippi runs through the state. Both Minneapolis and St. Paul are on both sides of the Mississippi. So it divides Minnesota and has a very small portion between Minnesota and Wisconsin.
Plagiarism is not a copyright wrong. You can plagiarize without infringing copyright and you can infringe copyright without plagiarizing. They are two different things. But expecting a newspaper that supposedly relies on copyright for its business model to understand copyright must be too much to ask. At least the NYT never gets it right.
I thought it was cool that we got Edison’s middle name (ALVA) and the clued site of his lab in the same corner. In keeping with the theme, it would have been even more fun if they appeared in the NE.
Not being American made this a bit tougher than it should have been. I don't know all those 2 letter abbreviations and because I filled in MISSISSIPPI completely via crosses I never read its clue, so didn't figure out a theme until I was finished. Even then, I kept looking at AR and wondering what Arizona was doing in this group. Oh, Arkansas. Arizona must be AZ. Gee, look what I learned today! How exciting!
59A PLAGIARISMS. No. Just no. As Rex noted 28D ONFIRE was pretty good. Too bad the related video sucked. Ah well, maybe I'll dip into the archives for something more enjoyable.
I don't share Rex's complaints about the theme... it seems to me that all those states are separated by the river, pretty much. And they are in the correct north to south order. Seems just fine to me!
However I will object to SUPERMOON; it's not great science. According to Wikipedia: "The name supermoon was coined by astrologer Richard Nolle in 1979, in Dell Horoscope magazine". An astrologer!... not even a scientist.
A long, long time ago, I think it was in first or second grade, we learned how to spell MISSISSIPPI as "em, eye, crooked-letter, crooked-letter, eye, crooked-letter, crooked-letter, eye, hump-back, hump-back, eye"!
Yeah, PLAGIARISMS is an ugly-ASS POC (plural of convenience) but by the time I got there I was already numbed by the likes of SUPER MOONS, IDS, IMS, STOKES, DERAILS, SSNS, SHIES, MOTOR SKILLS, FASTS, SPINS A TALE, SAGES, IPAS, ASPS and AWS. The singular of convenience (SOC?) SIAMESE TWIN wasn't enough to balance that out.
There was some constructioneering (™M&A) skill on display, what with a longish reveal, MISSISSIPPI, dropping down through all four longish themers but that plus 40 black squares meant an onslaught of short stuff. A total of 42 three and four letter entries is never a good thing.
@SouthsideJohnny 6:31 AM Yup, it's gunkorama just as you suspected. 38% is straight up not focusing on what matters. Poor Jeff. He'll write a great one, then about six terrible ones.
Once again, saw the silly little circles that this Editor likes so much, ignored them, and solved it easily as a themeless.
Second day in a row with an inappropriate plural.
Two things I liked seeing: Thomas ALVA Edison so close to the Menlo Park LAB SITE, and the brilliant and militant Nikki GIOVANNI. Rex also enjoyed seeing her "as clued". I'm not a fan of the Grammys, however. Next thing there's going to be a Grammy category for YouTube posts (maybe there is already).
Some states divided by a river. Deep. I guess MN got disqualified, cuz it itself is partly divided by the Mississippi. And KY got left out, cuz it just barely gets abutted by that river, and woulda then been the odd-man out, anyhoo.
However ... as a final desperate "for completeness sake" entry, the puz coulda had an AUTU(MN)S(KY) entry, somewhere down river. Good luck on them resultin puzfills, tho.
staff weeject pick: SES. Possessed French stuff. For the pub's English patients, it coulda been clued as: {1-Across add-on for foolish obstinate groups?}.
Thanx for gangin up on us, Mr. Koperwas & Chenmeister dudes. Pretty well-stated.
Masked & Anonymo2Us
... and, if you thought speakin in French was hard ...
"Talking a la Yoda" - 7x7 12 min. themed runt puzzle:
I quite liked Trestle and speed. But "labSite" seemed a weird answer for the clue. I don't think of Edison workin in a lab. Maybe I should?
Found it rather hard. How many solvers knew who Chang and Eng Bunker were? I probably read about them 70 or more years ago, but did not remember their names even then. A French possessive could start with m, t or s. or v. and other obscurities. Agree completely with Rex's complaints regarding the theme.
@okanaganer 1:01 PM An astrologer coined a term that makes a lot of sense, while the astronomical community couldn't get Pluto right. These are extraordinary times.
jberg Unlike most, I actually used the theme to fill in some of the circles in the bottom half. I was looking for KY but of course not to be found. Wondered about MN also. Conceptually incomplete themes like this drive Rex nuts but I usually don’t even notice. I did this time but it still didn’t bother me. I would agree not one of Jeff Chen’s better puzzles b
With the exception of KY, which has only a short border with the river and no other state to pair it with, each of the 8 listed border states is properly sorted as to whether it borders the river on the east or west, from north to south. As noted in these comments, except for the very southeastern portion of the state, MN can't be said to border the river; rather, the river runs through the heart of the state. I understand the theme to use the river as "a natural dividing line", so omitting MN seems perfectly appropriate.
only been following soccer for 50 years and been aware of Lionel Messi since the day he arrived in Barcelona. No one I know ever writes Leo, always Lio. whatever… make it fit however you have to i guess.
Diane Jones and anonymous posts. I was surprised to see that term in this day and age (the fact that it was singular drove Rex nuts but didn’t concern me at all) But in puzzle the term is not used for conjoined twins in general but refers to the actual brothers who were the origin of the term. The historical record is a little more complicated than you presented. They were gawked at, especially since they were “Siamese” (that is from Thailand of Chinese descent ) But unlike say Africans imported to Word Fairs they were able to keep a good part of the money made off said gawking and bought land in the Carolinas, married two white sisters and became slave holders. And until the end of slavery at least they were well off. I did say complicated. But, I agree that term has a lot of baggage and should be avoided.
Sharon K About French possessives Also n. But I looked at it as a kea/loa with the third letter as a gimme Also this puzzle usually has ses as the answer as it did today.
Early this morning we found out that our three-year old grandson's day care had been closed due to illness, so today has been devoted to him until a little while ago. Just time to finish the puzz and comment before we are off to my son's birthday party. Busy day.
Anyway, one benefit of posting late and reading all the comments is being absolutely sure that MN was not mentioned. . Also, the constructors left out MN. And MN was missing. And where was MN? I think it should be a rule that everyone should read all the comments before posting, especially since I have made some wonderfully wise and humorous observations fairly early in the morning, only to see them repeated later without citation! I mean, really.
I had an OK time doing this one, some awful fill, started seeing the states after I filled in MISSISSIPPI, and thought, oh. There have been a couple SUPERMOONS this year and they were in the news, liked that one, other questionable clues and answers have been thoroughly discussed, so no need here.
Interesting idea, SK and JC. Sorta Kinda Just Clever enough to be amusing, and thanks for some late-in-the-day fun.
(Just noticed Anonymous 4:32 PM criticism of the puzzle However you spell his nickname is of no concern to me, but before you criticize constructors you should at least google. Leo is certainly a valid answer. ). As usual I liked the puzzle more than Rex A lot of people thought it blah so I guess he had a point. But I always have the same reaction, the fact that the theme is not complete bothers me not at all. Gary thought the puzzle had way too many names etc. Mostly in my wheelhouse though. And foreignisms I like. So personally the puzzle was okay
Jeff Chen is a longtime favorite of mine because of his ability to create clues that read “easy” but challenge your creative thinking. This one disappointed a bit and just didn’t feel very “Chenlike” to me. Of course I expected and was excited to experience the co-constructor’s vibe, and it’s definitely present. Alas, the two minds did not meld well. After solving and scratching my head a little, I wandered over to the NYT solving blog.
Clearly, this duo has some growing to do. Having mentored many “baby lawyers” over the years, I am well aware of the joys and frustrations involved and am delighted to learn that Mr. Chen generously shares his creativity and time. Especially when I’d find a really promising “mentee” whose work habits, thought processes and humor seemed to mesh with mine, the time spent was a joy and I looked forward to continuing the relationship. Since the Koperwas/Chen duo is ongoing, I look forward to being able to see what’s next. The promise is definitely there.
Today though, the theme just did not sing. A bit like yesterday, the reveal did indeed reveal a clever idea, but the supporting materials just did not connect well, and didn’t “urge” me to “wonder,” and there was zero surprise. Quite the opposite, in fact. The circles just did not make me care.
@Gary, yes I agree SUPER MOON is a snappy marketing name for a not very significant "phenomenon". But as for Pluto: a big mistake was made in calling it a planet in the first place as it's a wild outlier by almost any measure. So the best way to have an objective definition for "planet" was to demote it to "minor planet".
I'm late....I do'n't care. I found some strength...Yay me!. MISSISSIPPI and Nebuchadnezzar were the first long English words I memorized.to spell. I knew of neither but I was, and still am, proud of myself.
A long time ago, I was solving this puzzle and got stuck at an unguessable (to me) crossing: N. C. WYETH crossing NATICK at the "N"—I knew WYETH but forgot his initials, and NATICK ... is a suburb of Boston that I had no hope of knowing. It was clued as someplace the Boston Marathon runs through (???). Anyway, NATICK— the more obscure name in that crossing—became shorthand for an unguessable cross, esp. where the cross involves two proper nouns, neither of which is exceedingly well known. NATICK took hold as crossword slang, and the term can now be both noun ("I had a NATICK in the SW corner...") or verb ("I got NATICKED by 50A / 34D!")
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Noble effort I guess - the trick has promise but far too cumbersome to pull off. Agree with the big guy - the two letter states just don’t do it for me.
Nick Drake
The grid is forced to be segmented resulting in those shorts. Easy enough but overall flat.
Easy. Liked it better than @Rex did (as often happens).
Overwrites:
Bridges are supported by TRuSses as well as a TRESTLE (8D)
dNA before RNA for the cell strand at 29D
My 47A seatbelt alert sounds more like a tone than a BEEP
WOEs:
Poet Nikki GIOVANNI at 32A
I didn't know Torre DEL Greco at 36D, but the DEL was easy to infer
"TTOPS." Again.
Great idea for a theme, and well constructed. Kudos to the constructors. Only brief trouble spot for me was the SE corner, because I assumed Lionel Messi's nickname was "Lio" instead of LEO, plus I had "ahs" instead oh AWS.
I thought I would get along with Jeff better than I normally do up north, but we reverted back to form as we moved mid-south. Not that there is inherently anything wrong with his grids, I just never seem to be on his wavelength. I was interested to see how the theme related to MISSISSIPPI, but did not discern the 2-letter abbreviations - so I had to suffer through the overly-strained fill for no payoff.
I’ll wait for Gary to see if this one was over-laden with trivia and propers, or if it was a wavelength issue and thus just my perception. So to me, this one had promise but ultimately fell short. I suppose if I had determined the theme, after one or two states it may have been , ok - that’s all there is to it ?
SUPERMOONS crossing GIOVANNI and DENALI is tough sledding for a Wednesday as well.
As I ignored the theme, which as usual had no effect on the solving experience, I was left to contemplate the heavily segmented grid, full of three-letter fill. Not a fan.
I don't understand why Rex goes ape over the absence of Minnesota, but doesn't even mention the absence of Kentucky.
The Yale clue made me guffaw. The university is, of course, notable. Particular courses at it are not. And this walk is... a route through town where you pass by some trees, not even a park? And wow, four of them. Real impressive stuff, Yale. "The Yale Nature Walk is a project developed in Professor Marta Wells’s course EE&B 223L ... in conjunction with Yale Academic Technologists... The project, which has spanned over three years, aims to develop a mobile pedagogical framework to engage students with authentic, collaborative, and creative active learning..." A reasonable pedagogical exercise; a parochial, navel-gazing clue for a puzzle with an international audience.
Missed *two* states, @RP! The Mississippi shifted course way back, forming the Kentucky Bend, an exclave of KY that's fully surrounded by MO, TN, and the river.
I get the river isn’t a diving line for MN, but what about KY?
Sweet to have a tribute to a source of many tributaries.
My favorite part was the cluing misdirects. Examples:
[Keeps burning, say] – Does “Keeps” mean “continues” or “causes to continue”?
[Appreciation] – Does it mean “enjoyment of” or "increase"?
[Does some creative accounting] – Does “accounting” mean “bookkeeping” or “telling?
Map puzzles don’t come around too often. I like them because I’m visualizing a map as I’m solving, adding dimension to the experience. One that strongly sticks in my mind still is Simeon Seigel’s 3/17/24 Sunday puzzle, a mind-blower that I highly recommend.
Today’s puzzle tripped off the memory of a song I love that I haven’t thought about in decades, “The Battle of New Orleans” (1959), which started:
“In 1814 we took a little trip
Along with Colonel Jackson down the mighty Mississip’”
So, I not only got a kick out of your lovely theme, Sam and Jeff, but its bonuses as well. ‘Twas a box of goodies, and thank you for making this!
I wrote YAK and missed SUKERMOONS.. not enjoyable
Absolutely nothing wrong with a puzzle based on whether states are east or west of the Mississippi. Why is OFL obsessing over the fact that not all of the states are on the shores of the Mississippi?
Also, OUCH: "It was easy, though, so I doubt many solvers are going to be terribly bothered by its shortcomings." It's one thing to be critical of the constructor but why malign faithful readers?
Ah well, if this puzzle didn’t have to have a theme it would have been fine without the circled letters. Trying to do what Rex suggests and have all the state initials actually abutting the river might be too difficult, so maybe that approach is infeasible. As it is, this one works but no “wow” appeal. Liked @Lewis trip down memory lane with the “mighty Mississip”—brain then jumped to SUPERMOONS and Credence’s “Bad Moon Rising”. That’s the way it goes some mornings…
As always, I agree on Rex’s observation of absurd singulars and plurals. I imagine the pluralization of AWS was imagined in a context where they came from multiple people, such as, “Many AWS emerged when the guests met the host’s puppy,” but of course, no one would ever say that.
A series of mini-crosswords surrounding some messy theme answers.
And I think a moratorium on Yale clues is necessary.
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I thought Rex was saying the States themselves weren't touching the River, but he meant the Circled Abbrs. in the puz grid weren't touching MISSISSIPPI. Aha, I was like, "What you talkin' 'bout Rex?" First Themer could've been SIAMWINTER, thereby getting both States to touch. Y'all can come up with other suggestions for all of the Themers, see what kind of fun things we can come up with.
Decent puz, played fairly quick. Got yer ASS right out of the gate! IMS so glad. Har
Keeping it short and sweet today.
Have a great Wednesday!
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RooMonster
DarrinV
Hey, are we being dissed? Connection of 1A (ASS) with 3D (SUPERMOONS)
Also, combining 64A and 65A, can we assume that's PUP LEO XIV?
Although I know that the Chang and Eng Bunker were referred to as “Siamese Twins” in the past, I’m surprised that clue passed editorial muster in this day and age. It is unconscionable that these two men were subjected to people gawking at them in their lifetime and now appear as an entry in a crossword puzzle because the words conveniently contain two state abbreviations.
Understanding how hard it is simply to construct a valid crossword grid, and Rex certainly does, having pairs of states separated by the Mississippi is quite a feat. In a couple of cases, the river is the boundary between them. I think this puzzle is a marvel.
Remarkable puzzle!
I was surprised by the reference to SIAMESE twins as well, given that the term is controversial, for good reason. But from what I read online, the NYT continues to use the term.
You are not alone on the non-Chen wavelength. We just seem to march to different crossword drummers.
Cars don't kills people, MOTORSKILLS people. So remember, when motors are outlawed, only outboard motors will be lawful.
I took my boy Albert to see the Salton Sea but it was dried up. "Why isn't there any water, Dad?" he asked. "That's a SEASONAL SEASONAL" I replied.
Last night I composed @Rex's imagined take, and it wasn't too far off: Why these themers? I mean what happened to poor Kentucky and Minnesota? There are 10 states that border or contain the MISSISSIPPI and 8 of them make the puzzle? You couldn't find any way to get in a KY or a MN?
To me, this theme sounds better on paper. But then, many solvers are soundlessly solving on paper. What I mean is that I like and admire the idea, but it somehow didn't make for a fun solve. But still, it beats a sharp STAKE in the eye. Thanks, Sam Koperwas and Jeff Chen.
I thought it was terra firma
strange mix of xwordese and trivia
Rex, you are a bit harsh. You want the state abbreviations to be closer to the river? ouch
Speaking of plagiarism (s), this puzzle was done 15 years ago. Shame on the constructors.
Forget singular v plural answers - this term is now considered disrespectful - the preferred term is "conjoined twins" and agree this entry was not appropriate
I guess the MISSISSIPPI divides those states from each other. Do I care? Do you?
I solved this as a perfectly swell themeless -- ignoring those tiny little circles as is my custom. I remembered those SIAMESE TWINS from my youth -- which was a l-o-o-ong time ago. You can be forgiven for not knowing Cheng and Eng. But today I learned that their last name is Bunker.
I liked the clue/answer for MOTOR SKILLS -- which did not come to me and for which I needed many crosses. STAR WITNESS was much easier.
PLAGIARISMS may be the worst plural of convenience I've seen this year. Are you there, @Anoa Bob?
A perfectly fine Wednesday outing with no need for solvers to pay any attention to the state abbrevs in the tiny little circles. Why do constructors bother with such things? Well, it makes a NYTXW acceptance far more likely, I'd venture.
Cuenta una historia.
Oh. They're states. In the wrong place. Thanks 🦖. Couldn't figure it out. Ridiculous little circles. Not too gunky until you look at practically every single down, then GAH.
At some point I was told the term Siamese twin is problematic and the preferred term is conjoined twin.
The seatbelt beeper in my car goes bananas if it's unbuckled for more than 10 seconds making paying in a drive-thru a rather dramatic affair. I think my 1971 Datsun pickup with zero effort put into safety or comfort or reliability or style was the zenith of the automobile industry.
People: 10 {people people people...}
Places: 6
Products: 3
Partials: 6
Foreignisms: 3
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Gary's Grid Gunk Gauge: 28 of 74 (38%)
Funnyisms: 4 🙂
Tee-Hee: [Swearword]: ASS. SMUT.
Uniclues:
1 "Could you go do something and leave me alone," and "Look, I'm on a date, I would appreciate you minding your own business."
2 "You're only hurting yourself," "Now you'll have to work fast food for the rest of your life," and "Wikipedia is not a reliable source."
3 Videos of French people dilly-dalliating in the back seat of a Cube.
4 "It's not Legos, darn it."
5 New Zealander fibs.
1 SIAMESE TWIN YAP (~)
2 PLAGIARISM SAWS
3 SES NISSAN SMUT
4 LEGO SET OATH (~)
5 KIWI SPINS A TALE
My Fascinating Crossword Uniclue Keepsake from Last Year: Tweaked for twang. GAGA ABOUT SITAR.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Hmmph, no mention of Minnesota, the headwaters of the river which starts in Lake Itasca. The Mississippi joins the Minnesota river in St. Paul which then forms the border between MN and WI from there on south to the IA border, as Rex's map shows.
I've never been to AR, TN or MS. Arkansas is supposed to be beautiful, I've heard from friends who've been, and my husband's cousins moved from NJ to TN this year so I suppose we'll mosey on down there eventually, do some GADding.
If it's not Nikki Monaj, I don't know who it is. But after Googling her post-solve, I'm ashamed to admit I didn't know Nikki Giovanni. Her Grammy nomination seems to be the least interesting thing about her. I read her poem (per the internet, her most famous) Nikki Rosa. Very evocative.
Thanks, Sam and Jeff. But as Rex mentions, MN should have made the grid.
The Mississippi starts in Minnesota. Also, his daughter lives (lived?) there, so it's probably more top of mind.
Siamese twins??? How did the constructor and the editor both fail to edit this offensive term that has (thankfully) fallen out of favor?
How can you leave MN out of the puzzle. It STARTS at Lake Itasca in Minnesota. I just visited there two months ago. It is very cool.
Easy-medium. No costly erasures but I did not know GIOVANNI or how to spell PLAGIARISM. I did put in MISSISSIPPI with no crosses which was very helpful.
I’m with @Rex on this one but I didn’t hate it.
I had the same reaction.
Worth it all just for the inclusion of the great (and still underrated) Ms. Giovanni. We discuss "Nikki/Rosa" in my ENG Composition classes every semester, and it never fails to be one of the most enlightened (and enlightening) conversations we have.
I was born in KY, so I feel a bit left out by this puzzle, even though I grew up in WI, which made the cut--unlike the MISSISSIPPI River's headwaters in MN. I know, that would be a lot of theme answers, but my feeling is keep trying until you get them all.
I have a weakness for symmetrical sets of letters running along the edges of the puzzle from a corner, so the AS/AS crossing in the NW was nice, but I wish YAP had been SAP, which would have given us ASS/ASS crossing at the A.
I like the work GAD, and I like the word meander, but the first to me means a speedy flitting about, while the latter means slowly following a bendy course.
And .... It's Thomas Edison day! Both his middle name and his LAB SITE! I checked to see if this was his birthday, but that's February 11; maybe he'll come back then.
As for TERRE Haute, that's the birthplace of Eugene V. Debs, but I guess if you're going to clue it as a partial you need to leave out those details.
He didn't notice it -- he even says that there was nothing left to pair Minnesota with. I'll admit that the KY frontage isn't very long, but it is there!
I never paid any attention to the circles & solved it pretty quickly too as a themeless. Going to the blog to see what it was. DENALI - 2nd time in 2 weeks?
Thank you, Jeff & Sam :)
I love Legos. As i sit here, just within direct sight, I have the Saturn 5 rocket, the Concorde, and a tuxedo cat that resembles a long-lost kitty. The Titanic is in the next room. I've made that World Map LEGOSET. I would not recommend it. It's about as fun as doing a jigsaw puzzle of a QR code. Or a lame Sunday NYTXW the size of your dining table.
I agree with others that if you are going to do this theme, you can't just skip two of the states.
We fired our cannon till the barrel melted down,
So we grabbed an alligator and we brought another round.
We filled his head with cannonballs and powdered his behind,
And when we touched the powder off the gator lost his mind."
No alligators were harmed in the singing of this song.
Me too. Jeff has a love of what is oxymoronically known as "grid art", whereas grid art interests me not at all.
Same!
I didn’t read that as maligning faithful readers—he’s just making the point that bad puzzles bother people more when the puzzles are hard and solvers are forced to spend more time staring at a sub-par grid.
I missed the correct east or west location of the states -- although LA, like MN, is on both sides. The perfect method would have an MN word, crossing the initial M, and an LA word crossing the final I. Second best would be to leave out LA and put in KY; not ideal, but at least you'd have an arguable defense of the choice.
My earlier comment was getting too long, so I didn't mention PLAGIARISMS -- but we have actual phrases such as "instances of...." or "cases of..." solely because no one ever says PLAGIARISMS.
Various novels I read in my youth mentioned EPSOM salts, and even more the Derby Stakes run at EPSOM Downs; so when computers came along, and I needed a printer, it took me years to learn that the brand name was actually EPSOn.
Absolutely top shelf music today with Nina and Dinah.63A cries out for Helen Humes "Airplane Blues." Not really about airplanes but it's always (in)appropriate. Another strong, insightful, fearless column by OFL as Jeff Chen is a made man (capo?) in the crossword world.
I didn't care much for this theme, as a non-American who doesn't know the map well. But I have to admit that it's crazy that a set of possible themers even exists, with all the constraints. You have to place the states in the correct positions relative to each other, AND each themer has to include a pair of states while at the same time intersecting MISSISSIPPI. At that point, I'd say it's pretty much inevitable to have an awkward themer like plural PLAGIARISMS.
I would imagine that Minnesota was not included because the Mississippi runs through the state. Both Minneapolis and St. Paul are on both sides of the Mississippi. So it divides Minnesota and has a very small portion between Minnesota and Wisconsin.
Plagiarism is not a copyright wrong. You can plagiarize without infringing copyright and you can infringe copyright without plagiarizing. They are two different things. But expecting a newspaper that supposedly relies on copyright for its business model to understand copyright must be too much to ask. At least the NYT never gets it right.
I thought it was cool that we got Edison’s middle name (ALVA) and the clued site of his lab in the same corner. In keeping with the theme, it would have been even more fun if they appeared in the NE.
Not being American made this a bit tougher than it should have been. I don't know all those 2 letter abbreviations and because I filled in MISSISSIPPI completely via crosses I never read its clue, so didn't figure out a theme until I was finished. Even then, I kept looking at AR and wondering what Arizona was doing in this group. Oh, Arkansas. Arizona must be AZ. Gee, look what I learned today! How exciting!
59A PLAGIARISMS. No. Just no. As Rex noted 28D ONFIRE was pretty good. Too bad the related video sucked. Ah well, maybe I'll dip into the archives for something more enjoyable.
I love this meta comment!
WFiske & Peter. Nice!
I don't share Rex's complaints about the theme... it seems to me that all those states are separated by the river, pretty much. And they are in the correct north to south order. Seems just fine to me!
However I will object to SUPERMOON; it's not great science. According to Wikipedia:
"The name supermoon was coined by astrologer Richard Nolle in 1979, in Dell Horoscope magazine".
An astrologer!... not even a scientist.
A long, long time ago, I think it was in first or second grade, we learned how to spell MISSISSIPPI as "em, eye, crooked-letter, crooked-letter, eye, crooked-letter, crooked-letter, eye, hump-back, hump-back, eye"!
Yeah, PLAGIARISMS is an ugly-ASS POC (plural of convenience) but by the time I got there I was already numbed by the likes of SUPER MOONS, IDS, IMS, STOKES, DERAILS, SSNS, SHIES, MOTOR SKILLS, FASTS, SPINS A TALE, SAGES, IPAS, ASPS and AWS. The singular of convenience (SOC?) SIAMESE TWIN wasn't enough to balance that out.
There was some constructioneering (™M&A) skill on display, what with a longish reveal, MISSISSIPPI, dropping down through all four longish themers but that plus 40 black squares meant an onslaught of short stuff. A total of 42 three and four letter entries is never a good thing.
@SouthsideJohnny 6:31 AM
Yup, it's gunkorama just as you suspected. 38% is straight up not focusing on what matters. Poor Jeff. He'll write a great one, then about six terrible ones.
Agree on the video. No charisma. Where’s the fire? They’re doing a good job of keeping it below the surface. Did I catch one of them yawning?
I thought DEI stood for Don Jr, Eric, Ivanka 😜
Funnily enough, the Battle of New Orleans took place in 1815 - although the skirmishes leading up to it started in 1814.
Once again, saw the silly little circles that this Editor likes so much, ignored them, and solved it easily as a themeless.
Second day in a row with an inappropriate plural.
Two things I liked seeing: Thomas ALVA Edison so close to the Menlo Park LAB SITE, and the brilliant and militant Nikki GIOVANNI. Rex also enjoyed seeing her "as clued". I'm not a fan of the Grammys, however. Next thing there's going to be a Grammy category for YouTube posts (maybe there is already).
Some states divided by a river. Deep.
I guess MN got disqualified, cuz it itself is partly divided by the Mississippi. And KY got left out, cuz it just barely gets abutted by that river, and woulda then been the odd-man out, anyhoo.
However ... as a final desperate "for completeness sake" entry, the puz coulda had an AUTU(MN)S(KY) entry, somewhere down river. Good luck on them resultin puzfills, tho.
staff weeject pick: SES. Possessed French stuff. For the pub's English patients, it coulda been clued as: {1-Across add-on for foolish obstinate groups?}.
Thanx for gangin up on us, Mr. Koperwas & Chenmeister dudes. Pretty well-stated.
Masked & Anonymo2Us
... and, if you thought speakin in French was hard ...
"Talking a la Yoda" - 7x7 12 min. themed runt puzzle:
**gruntz**
M&A
Enjoyed this puzzle. Learned some geography from the comments!
@Danger Man 7:46 AM
You didn't miss it, you knew it was a superior answer.
But they are not in the correct order. They missed Minnesota!
They missed Minnesota (MN), where you can find the source of the Mississippi River at Lake Itasca. What a missed opportunity.
I quite liked Trestle and speed. But "labSite" seemed a weird answer for the clue. I don't think of Edison workin in a lab. Maybe I should?
Found it rather hard. How many solvers knew who Chang and Eng Bunker were? I probably read about them 70 or more years ago, but did not remember their names even then.
A French possessive could start with m, t or s. or v.
and other obscurities.
Agree completely with Rex's complaints regarding the theme.
Off to look up super moons
@okanaganer 1:01 PM
An astrologer coined a term that makes a lot of sense, while the astronomical community couldn't get Pluto right. These are extraordinary times.
jberg
Unlike most, I actually used the theme to fill in some of the circles in the bottom half. I was looking for KY but of course not to be found. Wondered about MN also.
Conceptually incomplete themes like this drive Rex nuts but I usually don’t even notice. I did this time but it still didn’t bother me.
I would agree not one of Jeff Chen’s better puzzles b
With the exception of KY, which has only a short border with the river and no other state to pair it with, each of the 8 listed border states is properly sorted as to whether it borders the river on the east or west, from north to south. As noted in these comments, except for the very southeastern portion of the state, MN can't be said to border the river; rather, the river runs through the heart of the state. I understand the theme to use the river as "a natural dividing line", so omitting MN seems perfectly appropriate.
only been following soccer for 50 years and been aware of Lionel Messi since the day he arrived in Barcelona. No one I know ever writes Leo, always Lio. whatever… make it fit however you have to i guess.
Diane Jones and anonymous posts.
I was surprised to see that term in this day and age (the fact that it was singular drove Rex nuts but didn’t concern me at all) But in puzzle the term is not used for conjoined twins in general but refers to the actual brothers who were the origin of the term. The historical record is a little more complicated than you presented. They were gawked at, especially since they were “Siamese” (that is from Thailand of Chinese descent )
But unlike say Africans imported to Word Fairs they were able to keep a good part of the money made off said gawking and bought land in the Carolinas, married two white sisters and became slave holders. And until the end of slavery at least they were well off. I did say complicated.
But, I agree that term has a lot of baggage and should be avoided.
Sharon K
About French possessives
Also n. But I looked at it as a kea/loa with the third letter as a gimme Also this puzzle usually has ses as the answer as it did today.
Ah, very insightful observation. Thank you for pointing that out!
Early this morning we found out that our three-year old grandson's day care had been closed due to illness, so today has been devoted to him until a little while ago. Just time to finish the puzz and comment before we are off to my son's birthday party. Busy day.
Anyway, one benefit of posting late and reading all the comments is being absolutely sure that MN was not mentioned. . Also, the constructors left out MN. And MN was missing. And where was MN? I think it should be a rule that everyone should read all the comments before posting, especially since I have made some wonderfully wise and humorous observations fairly early in the morning, only to see them repeated later without citation! I mean, really.
I had an OK time doing this one, some awful fill, started seeing the states after I filled in MISSISSIPPI, and thought, oh. There have been a couple SUPERMOONS this year and they were in the news, liked that one, other questionable clues and answers have been thoroughly discussed, so no need here.
Interesting idea, SK and JC. Sorta Kinda Just Clever enough to be amusing, and thanks for some late-in-the-day fun.
(Just noticed Anonymous 4:32 PM criticism of the puzzle However you spell his nickname is of no concern to me, but before you criticize constructors you should at least google. Leo is certainly a valid answer. ).
As usual I liked the puzzle more than Rex
A lot of people thought it blah so I guess he had a point. But I always have the same reaction, the fact that the theme is not complete bothers me not at all.
Gary thought the puzzle had way too many names etc. Mostly in my wheelhouse though. And foreignisms I like. So personally the puzzle was okay
Jeff Chen is a longtime favorite of mine because of his ability to create clues that read “easy” but challenge your creative thinking. This one disappointed a bit and just didn’t feel very “Chenlike” to me. Of course I expected and was excited to experience the co-constructor’s vibe, and it’s definitely present. Alas, the two minds did not meld well. After solving and scratching my head a little, I wandered over to the NYT solving blog.
Clearly, this duo has some growing to do. Having mentored many “baby lawyers” over the years, I am well aware of the joys and frustrations involved and am delighted to learn that Mr. Chen generously shares his creativity and time. Especially when I’d find a really promising “mentee” whose work habits, thought processes and humor seemed to mesh with mine, the time spent was a joy and I looked forward to continuing the relationship. Since the Koperwas/Chen duo is ongoing, I look forward to being able to see what’s next. The promise is definitely there.
Today though, the theme just did not sing. A bit like yesterday, the reveal did indeed reveal a clever idea, but the supporting materials just did not connect well, and didn’t “urge” me to “wonder,” and there was zero surprise. Quite the opposite, in fact. The circles just did not make me care.
And on to Thursday.
@Gary, yes I agree SUPER MOON is a snappy marketing name for a not very significant "phenomenon".
But as for Pluto: a big mistake was made in calling it a planet in the first place as it's a wild outlier by almost any measure. So the best way to have an objective definition for "planet" was to demote it to "minor planet".
I'm late....I do'n't care. I found some strength...Yay me!. MISSISSIPPI and Nebuchadnezzar were the first long English words I memorized.to spell. I knew of neither but I was, and still am, proud of myself.
@Gill I., good to see you. I would be wary of trying to spell Nebuchadnezzar's name. Now, how to pronounce it?
@GILL I. 10:08 PM
Brilliant. Like @Teedmn I'm not touching Nebuchadnezzar without your help.
Agreed!
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