Saturday, October 10, 2026

Hip-hop's birthplace, colloquially / SAT 10-10-26 / 1980s chart-topping band with a semi-duplicative name / Peak overlooking the Grindelwald Valley / Animated character with a signature quiff hairstyle / Danny who was UNICEF's first goodwill ambassador / Natives call it Muncibeddu, meaning "mountain of mountains" / Neighbor of Francia

Constructor: David Levinson Wilk

Relative difficulty: Easy

THEME: none 

Word of the Day: Frito PIE (23A: Frito ___ (Tex-Mex dish)) —

Frito pie is a dish popular in the Midwestern, Southeastern, and Southwestern United States, whose basic ingredients are chili, cheese, and corn chips (traditionally Fritos, hence the name). Additions can include salsa, refried beans, sour cream, onion, rice, or jalapeños. There are many variations and alternative names used by region. Frito pie can be prepared in a casserole dish, but an alternative preparation can be in a single-serve Fritos-type corn chip bag with various ingredients as toppings. (wikipedia)
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"OH HELL NO" is right. OH crossing OH (at "OH WELL")?! And "OH WELL" absolutely does not mean 8D: "What a pity." I had "AH WELL" there at first, both because it's more apt (apt!) and because, well, surely they wouldn't cross "OHs." Ha. Speaking of Ha, HAHAS, plural, more awful (and improbably plural) noises. Also, speaking of HA, you've got HA, backward, at AH (OK). Then you've also got some OWS (another possibly even more improbable plural). At the level of two-letter noises alone, this thing is off-puttingly cacophonous and messy. With longer, non-noise answers, there are also problems. TO THE SIDE is wobbly and seems desperately to need an "off" in front of it (33D: Where a wallflower often stands). HAD A SOLO not only ate a sandwich, it ate *all* the sandwiches (57A: Played by oneself). The clue on APT TO is completely inapt because the clue is pointedly slangy, whereas the answer ... isn't (31A: Likely gonna). People take GROUP SELFIEs all the time, why doesn't that clue at least have a question mark on it? (27A: It's a lot for one person to take). Do you mean "a lot of people are in the shot"? Is that why it's "a lot to take"? Yeah, that needs a "?" ... like the clue on ABET (22A: Do a bad job of helping?). Only that clue doesn't quite work either. I mean, I see what you're doing, if you ABET, you help someone in committing a crime, and crimes are "bad," but ... if you get away with the crime, then you did a good job of helping. I guess the "?" covers you here, but barely. Moving on: this puzzle made me remember MR. MISTER, automatic demerit (38D: 1980s chart-topping band with a semi-duplicative name). Closing: there's just too much tired and / or gunky short fill: ESTOP ORALB ABET STE EES NOTTE PLEBS ULNA OWS TEE ETNA EPI KAL KEW INE AHOK HAHAS EOS SIA ISSA INCA. You might say I chose to focus only on the negative today. To which I'd say, OH WELL—we all make choices.

[I once nearly got beat up for making a crack about MR. MISTER which honestly would've been the funniest reason anyone ever got their ass kicked—I would've had to take ... my broken legs ... and learn to walk again, learn to walk so free; thankfully the kid in the MR. MISTER muscle TEE managed to calm down]

I will say that BOOGIE DOWN BRONX absolutely rules. One full star added to the rating for that answer alone. 

["'Cause we roll with a posse / From Strong Long to Canarsie / QBC, BOOGIE DOWN BRONX, back to Marcy ..."]


Bullets:
  • 1A: Artist whose first two initials stand for "Maurits Cornelis" (ESCHER) — too easy, come on. MC ... who else is it gonna be? (Note: If you wrote in HAMMER here, god bless you, that's amazing):
  • 20A: Peak overlooking the Grindelwald Valley (EIGER) — an ALP. Forgot it existed. Crosses bailed me out.
  • 44A: Round and round and round? (BOXING MATCH) — Pretty short match but OK.
  • 50A: Determine the going price? (SET BAIL) — as today's "?" clues go, this was one of the better ones. I was a little worried this clue was gonna have something to do with pay toilets, but thankfully no.
  • 59A: Animated character with a signature quiff hairstyle (TINTIN) — more of a comics / cartoon character than an "animated" character, although I guess he was, technically, "animated" at some point. The Adventures of TINTIN is a long-running series by pioneering artist Hergé, master of the ligne claire style. Comfort reading for me. The stories themselves don't matter much—I just want to live in the beautiful worlds he creates (also, they are just at my level of French literacy—so all those years of high school and college French weren't for nought).
  • 9D: Sports figure who traditionally wears an orange armband, in brief (NHL REF) — I was not aware the NHL had "traditions." Do the refs perform various rituals, hand down lore, etc. I assume there are rules and regulations. Looks like the orange armband has been standard NHL REF gear for a while now (since the '69-'70 season, best I can tell).
  • 24D: Like a sketchy person (SUS) — short for "suspicious." First appeared in 2024 and has come on like gangbusters since, that's right I said "gangbusters!" (this is the 9th appearance). There were 21 pre-Shortz SUSes ("susses?"), but they were all [Swine genus]. Fun fact*: SUS is actually a contraction of "Swine genUS" 

That's all for today. See you next time.

Signed, Rex Parker, King of CrossWorld

*this is not, in fact, a fact, fun or otherwise

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72 comments:

  1. Anonymous6:12 AM

    I did not understand the clue for RECEIPTS (Gate)…?

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    1. “Gate” is the term for the $$$ take at a concert or other event.

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    2. Anonymous6:59 AM

      Gate refers to how much a venue might make based on crowd size and ticket prices.

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    3. Anonymous8:34 AM

      Isn’t that also called the “take”?

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    4. Thanks for asking, came here to find out

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    5. DAVinHOP9:16 AM

      "Gate receipts", accounting-wise. Slang single words either Gate or Take, usually preceded by "The".

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  2. The 47A/49D cross was ridiculous. The latter could so easily have been clued to something within common knowledge.

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    1. It's Saturday Norm. The clues aren't supposed to be giveaways
      To Rex: so without BOGGIEDOWNBRONX, the puzzle would have been one star?

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    2. DAVinHOP9:27 AM

      Agree @Norm, but the whole corner is fouled by its totality (HOY, AH OK, HAHAS, HAD A SOLO). As for "ARE YOU IN?"; I guess that works, although it's a stretch...such a polite croupier. And thankfully Catherine (O'HARA) wasn't clued in this dreadful area.

      Growing up, my brothers and I loved YODELs. If they still make them, I'm not aware.

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    3. Danny9:45 AM

      Yet, the constructor went a different direction. Perhaps you need to bone up on your common knowledge Spanish.

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    4. Anonymous10:16 AM

      Common knowledge is pretty subjective and as others are saying, a Saturday should be a bit uncommon anyway. To me these were gimmes but I wouldn’t say that makes them objectively common knowledge or niche, I just happened to know them.

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  3. I liked the duplicative TIN TIN crossing the semi-duplicative MR MISTER.

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  4. A little straightforward for late week but I liked this one far more than the big guy. I agree the OH cross is rough but most of the cluing critiques are a reach. ESCHER - O’HARA and BOOGIE DOWN dropped right in and cover some real estate. I would recommend watching Wild Style to help better understand the origin of the BOOGIE DOWN term.

    Humble PIE

    TCM showed BUtterfield over the summer - Liz Taylor’s Oscar but not my favorite O’HARA. THIRSTED, TRUCK STOP, TO THE SIDE are all solid. NHL REF was a no brainer as was its cross SIMILES. Learned EPCOT - don’t care. I don’t love chocolate like most so the YODEL was never my snack of choice.

    Day of the EAGLE

    Enjoyable enough Saturday morning solve. Frank Longo’s Stumper will test you more than this - odd grid with a wonderful Kant referenced spanner.

    YODEL

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    1. One of Liz's Oscars. Also Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolfe

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    2. Anonymous7:46 AM

      *Woolf

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  5. I enjoyed BOOGIEDOWNBRONX. Other than that I have little to add to @rex. I saw the rant coming as soon as I got to OH crossing OH. To which I immediately thought UH OH!. I would have to say the funniest part of his rant was seeing the words MR. Mister muscle tee all in a row. Too funny.

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  6. Anonymous7:06 AM

    oH OK (better answer) before AH OK. Other than that no trouble. Loved BOOGIE DOWN BRONX, but agree with @Rex about the rest. At least it was easy.

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    1. Anonymous10:19 AM

      Yeah strangely it was the dupes that made this anywhere close to challenging. Surely they wouldn’t have two OHs plus an AH and both WORKOUT AND XEDOUT? OHWELL, OHHELLNO, AHOK, they did.

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  7. Andy Freude7:16 AM

    Grateful for the word of the day today, since I didn’t see the Frito PIE clue while solving but remember that favorite dish growing up in Texas in the sixties. I never thought of it as Tex-Mex, but I suppose it is, emphasis on the Tex. It’s gotta be Wolf brand chili if it’s gonna be the real thing. I still remember the iconic TV commercials:

    “How long has it been since you had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf brand chili? . . . Well, that’s too long.”

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  8. Call me Mr. Misdirected today. I opened with HAMMER for the M.C. person, was totally thinking along the lines of breaking the ice with a person for [Get to know a little better, say], was thinking “auction” at [It’s a lot for one person to take] … and more.

    Plus, I’ve never heard of BOOGIE DOWN BRONX, nor ISSA Dee, nor NOTTE, and several others.

    Thus, just what I want on Saturday – a hill to climb.

    And as things filled in, delights lit up the path. Reminders of several who brighten my soul, Muhammad Ali, Danny Kaye, ESCHER and TINTIN. Lovely answers THIRSTED, ARE YOU IN, CRATERING, BONE UP ON. And sweet images – baby owls in a nest, Jane Fonda leading a group in a workout, and even, at CRATERING, Wile E. Coyote free-falling down the canyon, landing in a poof and a puff of dust.

    I loved learning BOOGIE DOWN BRONX, because how colorful, how sing-song sensational, is that?

    Happy brain, happy soul, happy solve. Thank you for a splendid outing, David!

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  9. It's been a consistent late week so far. Yesterday's solve was a little above average and so was today's. I actually thought of HAMMER before ESCHER . EPI was initially the only gimme for downs in the NW. However TRAGIC gave me CRATERING and that put me on the track for remembering ESCHER. In spite of the bad fill I quite enjoyed this solve.

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  10. It's been a consistent late week so far. Yesterday's solve was a little above average and so was today's. I actually thought of HAMMER before ESCHER . EPI was initially the only gimme for downs in the NW. However TRAGIC gave me CRATERING and that put me on the track for remembering ESCHER. In spite of the bad fill I quite enjoyed this solve.

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  11. Yes, I started with HAMMER, so thank you for the blessing.

    Easy Saturday to follow an Easy Friday. I beliveve this puzzle was originally submitted in 1984, and it just took a while to get published (Danny KAYE, MR MISTER, John OHARA, MC ESCHER, DARNS, TINTIN, BOOGIE DOWN BRONX).

    ORAL-B changed their floss formula, and while it is now free of PFAs, I hate it.

    5D and 10D columns are doozies: EPISUSEOSSOS, EESSIAKALINE.

    Alternative clue for 43D: With 60D, Tigers' great Al.

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    1. @kitshef - I agree about the floss, having tight teeth. Try the improbably named "Floss is Super Deer" floss - it's the same as the old Oral-B. Picksters Gorilla Floss is different, but incredibly strong.

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  12. Hey All !
    Didn't hate it as much as Rex (Hi Rex 😁). Sure, some dreck floating about, but hey, it happens. I do agree about the crowing of the OH crossers, however. And XEDOUT seems sketchy.

    Got a big chuckle out of Rex's "(Note: if you wrote in HAMMER here, god bless you, that's amazing)" Har! Didn't even think of Hammer(time)! Stop!

    wentSOLO-diDASOLO-HADASOLO. Another chuckle about eating all the sandwiches !

    Decent WORKOUT. Was thankfully easier than YesterPuz. I'm APT TO like it

    Hope y'all have a great Saturday!

    One F - Finally, an F on a Themeless!
    RooMonster
    DarrinV

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  13. I came here expecting a Joe ROGAN gripe, but that MR. MISTER anecdote more than made up for it. That made my day, and it's not even 8 a.m.

    Unrelated: should I memorize all the alps?

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  14. Tom F7:45 AM

    I was looking forward to seeing Lewis’ hearty take today :)

    This puz was basically frito-pie level of nutrition.

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  15. I wrote HAMMER right out of the gate, but with significant side-eye as I did so. I was NOT terribly surprised when it refused to cross. :D I accept my blessing.

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  16. Anonymous8:10 AM

    Just a bit easier than yesterday but still strenuous. I, too, had HAMMER first. After a couple of iced mocha sips, the dam started breaking, starting with BONEUPON, which was a sweet surprise. I enjoyed the puzzle.

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  17. Cakes8:15 AM

    I'm surprised Rex chose to take umbrage at Mr. Mister, but left the a*hole Joe Rogan stand unchallenged.

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    1. Anonymous9:02 AM

      Seems the inclusion of that a*shole was the subtext of the whole writeup. Certainly the first paragraph.

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  18. The electrical engineers from Cal Tech and MIT fight over who are the greatest of EEs.

    With KAYE, TEE, KEW, two OHs, those EEs, that STRAIGHTA, and ORALB, this puzzle is a real alphABET soup.

    Did you bring the money?
    What money?
    Why are you wearing a sailor suit?
    Your message said something about setting sail.
    No, you idiot -- I said the judge SETBAIL.
    D'oh!

    When I told the arm surgeon to BONEUPON the ULNA before my operation, he gave me the finger.

    Is KAL in his dressing room? No, he's ONSET.

    So you're telling me your female sibling, Susan, was just crying wolf?
    Yes. My sis Sue's SOS is SUS.

    Where you'll find my grandson Isaac's broccoli: TOTHESIDE, if not on the floor.

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  19. That NW was a particular challenge for me. I begrudgingly filled in STRIPE, CRATERING and RECEIPTS as the only possible real words that physically fit.. but had NO idea why they worked with those clues!! It's fun to learn new words, I've just literally never heard of those usages before looking them up today. (And it's possible I invented my own new word usages during the initial shouting fit..)

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  20. Too half was unSaturday easy. Saw the clue " " at the top of the Acrosses column on my pirntout and thought sabado? Nah, only three letters, so HOY, por supuewsto.

    SW corner very easy, some snags due to ISSA and KAL, also TO ONE SIDE and SET OUT for XEDOUT. Didn't help that I had no idea about BOOGIEDOWNBRONX, although the X from TAX made the BRONX part pretty obvious.

    The oeuvre of MRMISTER has escaped my notice somehow.

    Always nice to see some old friends,,, today's are EOS and especially ESTOP. How have you been?

    OK Saturday, DLW. Mostly stuff I knew right away or not at all. Didn't Love Whizzing through this so quickly on a Saturday, but thanks for a fair amount of fun.

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  21. Anonymous8:36 AM

    Of course I put in aH WELL, because I had the OH already. But I was solving online, so the app told me it was wrong. That little incident did make me like the puzzle a lot less.

    I got off to a good start with ESCHER (c'mon, "Maurits Cornelis" Hammer?) and then somehow guessing RECEIPTS, putting it in just to get myself started, and then being amazed to watch the crosses confirm it. Unfortunately, that method did not work so well with "lunchroom" before TRUCK STOP.

    "Off-puttingly cacophonous" is worth the price of admission.

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  22. Anonymous8:37 AM

    I liked this puzzle much more than Rex did. I had to change on the side to to the side 33 Down. That was all.Very enjoyable.🎈🎈🎊🎊

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  23. OH HELL NO, I wasn't signed in. I'll at least repeat one point: "Off-puttingly cacophonous" was worth the price of admission.

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  24. Anonymous8:40 AM

    I liked BOOGIEDOWNBRONX, even though the nickname is more commonly “the Boogie Down” without Bronx.

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  25. Anonymous8:41 AM

    In total agreement with Rex today. Just bleah, ew, what?, all through the solve. What a disappointment for a Saturday.

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  26. Anonymous8:42 AM

    Saved by The Eiger Sanction!

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  27. Anonymous8:56 AM

    Born and raised in the Bronx….in the 80’s. 7D was a gimme for me…went in with no crosses. Loved it! Great way to start a Saturday puzzle.

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  28. Alexscott689:05 AM

    One of life’s guilty pleasures is finishing a poorly made NYT Xword and then coming here to read Rex tear it apart. This one deserved it. I did appreciate BOOGIE DOWN BRONX, but I couldn’t remember it without the crosses (I just knew rap began in the Bronx). Otherwise very little reward for crossing OHs, AHOK, HAD A SOLO, and bringing up a certain moronic podcaster. I did enjoy recalling time spent in the Grindelwald region when I was 18, though. Wanted Schilthorn at first but that didn’t fit and then remembered EIGER, mainly because I’d learned they filmed the movie The Eiger Sanction there.

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  29. Sam to Pippin as Frodo and Bilbo sailed from the Grey Havens: I didn't want to go anyway. That GROUPSELFIE.

    I think AHOK is when you produce a loogie.

    If he's STRAIGHTA high school senior might get accepted to Oral Roberts.

    Napoleon: Mom, I don't have time to review all of these war plans.
    Mom: Well, Napoleon, BONEUPON part.

    Good to be reminded today of that beloved pair of Scotsmen, MC Hammer and MC ESCHER.

    This has been the fastest Friday/Saturday pair I can remember (which means in the last week). But I did enjoy it. Thanks, David Levinson Wilk.

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    1. Sorry to correct you, but messrs. McHammer and McEscher are Irish, not Scottish. You may be thinking of the Scottish luminary rapper MacKlemore.

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  30. I had all the same reactions Rex had to this puzzle, except that I sort of liked the clue for ABET (Do a bad job of helping?). But the slangy clue for the rather formal answer APT TO was so bad, as was the off-the-mark clue for OH WELL. I don't usually feel as critical of the editors as others do, but this morning I'm with you all—very lazy editing.

    All that said, I still get satisfaction from successfully completing a Saturday puzzle, even if it takes me an hour. It was the NW corner that took the most time, as ESCHER didn't come easily to me, nor did HIGH or ESTOP. Luckily when I pondered the ending GHTA on STRAIGHTA, that got me rolling. And I do like the clue "Kind" for STRIPE—that was a highlight.

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  31. DAVinHOP9:52 AM

    Still obsessed by whether my reaction is in sync (or not) with Rex's rating, I wondered whether BOOGIE DOWN BRONX could itself salvage a respectable star count, it otherwise being such a sludge-fest (almost all detailed in the write-up's first paragraph). Two stars, net of one added for BDB, so I got that right.

    Assuming Rex purged enough negativity to not feel the need to mention the contemptible windbag ROGAN.

    We toggled between Did versus HAD A SOLO, knowing both would elicit an "Eat a sandwich" comparison. Settled on the right answer while muttering "HAHAS?...really?" Loved that "it ate *all* the sandwiches".

    Hard for me to believe this puzzle was published, on a Saturday, no less. It seems likely that the constructor fell in love with 7D and threw spaghetti against the wall for the rest. That's the best you got, NYT? Favorite part of today's experience, by far, was the MC Hammer video; what a production!

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  32. Mr. Lucky10:22 AM

    Did I sleep through the weekend and pick Monday’s paper off the stoop? Crikey. Unless the theme was “ you’ll have to think three times about every answer because it seems way too easy for Saturday.”

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  33. Old Ned10:27 AM

    Very easy, tho it didn't seem like it while solving. I somehow just flowed from one section to the next.

    The highlight was 7D, an audacious and surprising entry to my eyes. Afterwards I kept looking at this totally unknown name and trying to figure out how each of the 3 parts "BOOGIE", "DOWN", and "BRONX" fit together into a meaningful location.

    Guess I'll read OFL now and see what light he sheds on it.

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  34. Niallhost10:34 AM

    Mixed blessing for an 80s kid today. Made MRMISTER easy, but also led me into the hammer trap. Struggled in the NW for a while because of the hammer mistake, and only escaped after realizing that the type of student must be STRAIGHTA. I was imagining all sorts of neighborhoods in the Bronx, and tried a bunch of combinations until I played out the alphabet for EIGER and it finally made sense. GROUP SELFIE took way too long to figure out, and RECEIPTS was tricky. Seems fairly straightforward in retrospect, even though my time suggested it was an average Saturday. Enjoyed it. 27:14

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  35. Para mí no más, gracias.

    Yesterday's Gunkorama is backed up by even more of the same. If you love a random list of trivia and glue holding it all together, this is the weekend for you.

    [Determine the going rate] is a first class clue.

    ❤️ Not today Satan.

    Had another massive hot air balloon launch this morning, and I'm fighting through my covid and flu vaccines so a yin-yang kinda morning.

    Gunkometer--
    People: 10 {again?}
    Places: 5
    Products: 8
    Partials: 6
    Foreignisms: 3
    --
    Gary's Grid Gunk Gauge: 32 of 70 (45%)

    {Sporting his top hat and tails Mayor Gunk opened the weekend Gunkfest by welcoming all the little Gunk monsters and having the Gunkettes perform a high stepping homage during the Gunk Anthem. Everyone from Gunkville showed up glad handing each other before a day of eating Gunk legs, fried Gunk cake, and downing Gunk Grog from plastic mugs with the phrase "I survived the Gunkicane from the second weekend in October 2026!" Everyone spoke wistfully of the possibility the editors continuing commitment to spread gunk into Sunday for a Gunkapalooza trifecta.}

    Funny Factor: 4 🙂

    🔥 Ooh-la-la! 🔥 BONE UP ON. OH HELL NO.

    Uniclues:

    1 Where no one gives a hoot.
    2 How predators stay fit.
    3 Why Republicans weep.
    4 Circle K.

    1 TRAGIC OWL'S NEST
    2 EAGLE WORKOUTS
    3 SALES TAX REAPED
    4 PLEBS' TRUCK STOP

    My Fascinating Crossword Uniclue Keepsake from Last Year: Tossed tanner in the tank. SEIZED BEACH BUM.

    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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  36. Is Drake's an east coast thing? I had never heard of Yodel. We have Little Debbie and Hostess here in Wisconsin but Drake's is something I only ever heard of on Seinfeld.

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    1. Drake1:35 PM

      If you never had Drake's then you missed DEVIL DOGS...as I miss them now.

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  37. Kinda with Rex on this one with the added problem that I didn’t know ESCHER or much of the other trivia in this puzzle that he knew well. Loved the BRONX description, but got stuck on BOrINGMATCH vs BOXINGMATCH. In retrospect seems like a decent puzzle, just not in my wheelhouse.

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  38. Suggest today's LA Times (free) for more of a Saturday experience. I liked it a lot.

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  39. Tough to get a toehold but Kew (gardens) crossing truck stop was enough to get me the lower half. Needed a cheat on Escher to crack the other. In the Hammer camp there

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  40. Anonymous11:20 AM

    Enjoyed it.

    But had confidently put on HAMMER and “confirmed” it with the ER crosses so was most reluctant to give it up …

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  41. walrus11:25 AM

    i was hoping TINTIN's appearance would result in a stephen duffy video so here's one for the fantastic "kiss me"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlH1960jTvg

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  42. walrus11:25 AM

    i was hoping TINTIN's appearance would result in a stephen duffy video so here's one for the fantastic "kiss me"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlH1960jTvg

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  43. For me, the sludge faded into the background against the highlights of STRIPE and RECEIPTS as clued, CRATERING, BONE UP ON, THIRSTED, the mini aviary with the EAGLE, CROW, and OWL, and the fun of parsing random letters into BOOGIE DOWN BRONX. I concede the HAD A SOLO did take some of the shine off. A solid medium for me, fun to solve.

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  44. Medium but most of it was easier than that.

    Very costly erasure - The Seattle team was a WOE and I had ST_R_ and went with STaRs which took a boatload of nanoseconds to fix.

    BOOGIE DOWN BRONX also took a lot of crosses and TINTIN was a WOE.

    Other than those problems, pretty easy. Liked it a tad more than @Rex did but I agree with a lot of his take on this one.

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  45. Anonymous11:40 AM

    As usual, I'm with Lewis' take on today's fun puzzle. Thanks for a lovely morning mental workout, Mr Wilk!

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  46. I’m with you, Rex. And Gary - do you count the random OHs AHs HAs UHs etc in your gunk meter? If not, it might be time. Another disappointment from the NYT.

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  47. Can't read the comments because have to leave for the long weekend; the puzzle was okay except for all the names. In the bottom half alone: ORALB ETNA EAGELEOHARA KAYE SOS ITALIA EOS ROGAN MRMISTER KAL EPCOT ISSA TINTIN! yikes

    Happy Canadian Thanksgiving, all!

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  48. My comment got lost in the ethernet yesterday but like Nancy (with whom I’m always proud to agree), for the second day in a row, I gave up and pitched the puzzle in favor of a beautiful Fall day and other things to do. @Gary J put it in perspective quite nicely.

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  49. Haven't grokked out the puztheme, yet. Seems to happen a lot, on Saturdays.

    staff weeject picks: SOS & SUS. The pangrammer twins.

    fave stuff: Managed to do the solvequest without depletin every precious nanosecond in the M&A universe. AHOK vs. OHHELLNO. GROUPSELFIE & its clue. STRAIGHTA. BONEUPON. SIMILES clue.

    Thanx, Mr. Wilk dude. OHARA -- hmmm. Figurin that maybe the puztheme has somethin to do with OH's ... ?

    Masked & Anonymo4Us

    p.s.
    Runt puzzle with a similar theme:
    **gruntz**

    M&A

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  50. DavidPS12:09 PM

    I'm representing the late risers on the West coast here.... But I didn't see any comments about not two but three uses of the word "set": IMSET, SETBAIL and ONSET. A clear infraction, no? Where is the orange arm-banded NHLREF?

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  51. I, too, was surprised at the lack of mention of Rogan.

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  52. Anonymous12:25 PM

    Confidently entered HAMMER for 1A. Didn't last long, though.

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  53. Pitch perfect write-up, Rex. It was definitely cathartic to read, and the “fun fact” at the end was a great chuckle. Thanks for redeeming the time I spent on this one!

    I don’t know if it’s just me, but THIRSTED as clued—[Was hot (for)]—felt kinda ick to me, a little too much in the rapey / sexual predator neighborhood. Didn’t pass the breakfast test for me, but that might just be associations in my brain that the clue itself is innocent of.

    Rex’s Word of the Day blurb from Wikipedia is telling me that Frito PIE is popular in the southeastern United States, and I’ll just say that I’m feeling let down by my Georgian and North Carolinian upbringing. I’m sure I would have loved it, and I can imagine it, but I’ve never heard of it. Dorito salad, on the other hand, is a staple at every cookout and potluck!

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    1. As a child of the Midwest, I, too, was surprised by the FRITO PIE factoid. I certainly know it exists, but I have never thought of it as "popular" except possibly among a certain subset of college-age men. As with so many things, it appears I may have been wrong about that.

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  54. I had an "aha" moment when I learned that today's constructor is the head writer of "Celebrity Jeopardy!" That would seem to explain a lot, as the puzzle is rife with that show's style of pop culture trivia, much of which is both unknown and uninteresting to me. And despite that, it was very easy for a Saturday, so rather unsatisfying all around. OH WELL.

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  55. Second day in a row that I was very, very challenged. Appropriate for late week, but today I had a similar reaction to @Rex though I did liked it a bit more.

    I love it when a puzzle puts up a good fight, but when I'm fighting over things like Isee, vs. oHOK vs. AHOK for "That makes sense now", or aHELLNO vs. OHHELLNO, and it continues on with another OH in OHWELL, WELL that can almost drive a patient guy like me over the edge!

    I say "almost" as there were a few things that made me smile. Unlike @Rex, I kina liked the cluing for ABET at 22A, that may have been one of the few highlights for me. I would have really, really liked OHHELLNO if not for the other OH crossing. Usually I'm not terribly bothered by that, but this dupe really unprettied the NE corner.

    A few of the long ones and their cluing hit the happy bone like OWLSNEST, BOXINGMATCH, GROUPSELFIE and TRUCKSTOP. I also liked the in-the-language quality of AREYOUIN.

    I'm a sucker for a good spanner, and BOOGIEDOWNBRONX did it's job. I grew up about two miles south and east of The Bronx in the 70's and 80's (40 or so city blocks south, and a river to the east...) and I still needed the crosses for the first two words of the phrase. The BRONX part was a gimme, but I must have been living under a rock not to know this. Or, more likely, living under whatever may have been influencing me while going to Dead shows in the 80's. But I'm happy to know this now.

    STRAIGHTA was also fun. That odd grouping of letters, IGHTA, threw me a bit and I love it when that happens. I'm not sure what made it click today but it was a neat workout getting that to fall.

    I had the very same reaction as @Rex did to APTTO. The clue is so very slang and the answer so very not, that was another annoying fight. I side-glanced at HADASOLO as well, I had wentSOLO, didASOLO and sangSOLO. HADASOLO is my least favorite, it works, but the squeeze wasn't worth the juice.

    I'm officially blessed as well as I immediately threw down *hammer* at 1A and thought I was in for a whooshy experience, boy was I wrong. I'm not familiar with ESCHER so that took every cross.

    Looking back at all that I *did* like, I'm finding that it's outweighing the stuff that bothered me. So while I was irked a bit more than usual today, this was still a satisfying solve. Thanks for this one, David!

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