Record-keeping device made of strings and knots / SAT 7-5-25 / Glass production / Brendon of Panic! at the Disco / French musician/composer ___ Tiersen / Fortnite developer / Dance move that slid into English as "sashay" / Getting in one guess, as Wordle / Subject of the books "Jonathan Loves David" and "Take Back the Word" / Dance move that slid into English as "sashay" / Eerie phenomenon when a robot seems too lifelike
Constructor: Tracy Bennett
Relative difficulty: Medium
THEME: none
Word of the Day: QUIPU (46D: Record-keeping device made of strings and knots) —
A quipu usually consists of cotton or camelid fiber cords, and contains categorized information based on dimensions like color, order and number. The Inca, in particular, used knots tied in a decimal positional system to store numbers and other values in quipu cords. Depending on its use and the amount of information it stored, a given quipu may have anywhere from a few to several thousand cords.
Objects which can unambiguously be identified as quipus first appear in the archaeological record during 1st millennium CE, likely attributable to the Wari Empire. Quipus subsequently played a key part in the administration of the Kingdom of Cusco of the 13th to 15th centuries, and later of the Inca Empire (1438–1533), flourishing across the Andes from c. 1100 to 1532. Inca administration used quipus extensively for a variety of uses: monitoring tax obligations, collecting census records, keeping calendrical information, military organization, and potentially for recording simple and stereotyped historical "annales". (wikipedia)
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[37A: Babe, for one]
Lots of stuff I flat-out didn't know in this one, though it was still very doable—didn't play any harder than an average Saturday. I had no idea there was such a thing as QUEER THEOLOGY (46A: Subject of the books "Jonathan Loves David" and "Take Back the Word"). QUEER THEORY, sure—I went to grad school in the Humanities, after all. But THEOLOGY, no, that got by me. I mean of course there's QUEER THEOLOGY, there's QUEER everything, and yet still, this particular phrase—unknown to me. Got the QUEER part and then... no idea. QUEER TEENAGER? Sadly, no. Never heard the "8" / asterisk key called the STAR KEY, though as with QUEER THEOLOGY, that was eventually inferable (34A: *, to a typist). Never heard of QUIPU ... though I have this weird feeling that I "learned" it from crosswords and then forgot it (solve for long enough and this will happen to you, over and over and over and...). Looks like this is the first NYTXW appearance of QUIPU in over fifty-four years (!), so I don't feel so bad now about not recognizing it. Never would've remembered URIE without help from crosses (56A: Brendon of Panic! at the Disco). Absolutely no idea who this YANN composer person is (5A: French musician/composer ___ Tiersen). If the YANN is not Martel, I do not know the YANN. Looks like he scored the popular French movie Amélie (2001). Huh. OK. Ultimately, all the crosses on YANN are fair, though that second "N," yeesh. Who calls it NEAT VODKA? (8D: It's a straight shot). You can order any liquor "neat" but somehow the phrase "NEAT [insert liquor]"—while understandable and defensible—just sounds off. I would say someone was drinking whiskey neat, not neat whiskey. Of course I don't understand drinking vodka any way at all—it's the least interesting (and least taste-having) of all your major liquors. We have a well-stocked liquor cabinet—no vodka. But that's neither here nor there. The big-picture point here is that I got held up a lot by stuff beyond my ken. But through the magic of fair crosses, I got through it easily enough (easier as I went along, easiest at the finish, in the SE, where I didn't really know EPIC GAMES but had -IC GAMES filled in before I ever even saw the clue, so what else was it gonna be?) (30D: Fortnite developer).
[this is not the band in question—it's a song on a CD compilation that came with some NZ music mag I bought years and years ago. The compilation is called Awesome Feeling II. Presumably there was an Awesome Feeling I, but I don't own it]
Struggled up front with LONE, which really should've been SOLE, shouldn't it? LONE tracks, but SOLE alliterates, which is what all good crossword answers are supposed to do. Just discovered that Sole Survivor was the name of a 1970 TV movie starring William Shatner, about a WWII bombing mission gone awry, if that's of any interest to you. It's also the name of a 1984 horror movie whose poster has a cool-ass '80s digital font:
LONE survivor is just not as poetic or evocative as SOLE, though I can imagine someone saying it on the 6 o'clock news, so OK. Sticking with the NW corner—when I [Careen wildly], I do not SLUE. I VEER. So there was that. I had the 3D imaging as a CAT SCAN at first (my retired radiologist father would be disappointed). I know what ONION ROLLs are but I confess I didn't know they were particularly Jewish (3D: Jewish bakery specialty). So... struggle struggle struggle ... then I built that NW corner from the bottom up, and then ... the easiest answer in the NW, which I almost wish I'd looked at first:
I don't think UNCANNY VALLEY is clued quite right (22A: Eerie phenomenon when a robot seems too lifelike). The point isn't that it's "too lifelike"—it's that it's both too lifelike *and* not lifelike enough. That's the valley. The "eeriness" is when the robot crosses that threshold into "close but not there." Lots of A.I.-created animation falls in this category for me. See also, famously, the animation in Polar Express (2004). Anyway, you can't have the titular "valley" if you don't have both the concept of "too lifelike" *and* the concept of "not lifelike enough." See ... the valley is not a mythical place, it's a literal shape on a graph:
Though there was lots I didn't know, and some stuff I didn't love, in this grid, there were a few winners, for sure. I liked UNCANNY VALLEY as an answer (just not the clue). QUEER THEOLOGY looks great (my ignorance of the term notwithstanding). RINKY-DINK is hard not to like. GUTTER BALL—funny (in real life, and as clued) (50A: Alley oops) (i.e. a mistake ("oops!") made in a bowling alley). And I like CADET BLUE, which was an answer I found myself writing in off the first few letters without really knowing if it was real (27D: Uniform shade). That is, the phrase occurred to me, so I wrote it in, but I didn't know how I knew it or what shade of blue it was, exactly. Sometimes your brain just whispers the answer to you and you go with it. Of course sometimes your brain whispers VEER and CAT SCAN, so you've got to keep your eye on it.
[originally entitled "LOAN Provider" ... I mean, probably]
What else?:
29A: Michigan's ___ Marquette River (waterway named for a missionary) (PÈRE)— I guess the "missionary" part of the clue was supposed to suggest the religious PÈRE ("father"). No help to me. Tracy (today's constructor) is from Michigan, so this seems like one of at least two little personal flourishes in the puzzle. The other, perhaps more obvious flourish is the Wordle clue (41A: Getting in one guess, as Wordle). Tracy happens to be the editor of Wordle, in case you didn't know. I didn't love ACING as the answer there, but I guess in the golf sense, in the hole-in-one sense, it's true. In the sense of "ACING a test," though, no. ACING in that sense implies a demonstration of ability, whereas getting Wordle in 1 is just dumb luck.
55A: Glass production (OPERA) — as in Philip Glass. He has written 15 operas, including The Perfect American, a portrait of Walt Disney in his later years as a "power-hungry racist." Gotta check that one out.
60A: Somewhat audible disparagements (TSKS) — not getting the "somewhat" on this clue and the identical (if singular) clue on HISS. They are both definitely audible, or else they don't work. If a disparagement falls in the woods and nobody hears it ... did you even disparage, bro?
19D: Dance move that slid into English as "sashay" (CHASSÉ) — love the "slid into" part of this clue, since sliding is what's involved with a CHASSÉ.
That's it. Gonna go do Wordle now. Probably not in 1 (my starter word this week is BORIC—if I get it in 3, I'll feel like a hero). See you next time.
Signed, Rex Parker, King of CrossWorld
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Overwrites: At 4D, my diagnostic was @Rex caT SCAN before it was PET Guessed Yves for the French composer at 5A (YANN was also a WOE) My 14A survivor was (@Rex again) sOlE before he was LONE SoFT COVERS (on books) prevent stains almost as well as SOFA COVERS (18A) My 51A noble title was eArl before it was LADY YEAS aren't the only votes for (52D); there are ayeS, too.
WOEs: The aforementioned YANN Tiersen at 5A 19D CHASSE, and the etymology in the clue QUIPU at 46D Brendon URIE at 56A
Despite my abysmal ignorance of most things sporty, I’m vaguely aware that an “alley oop” is something in basketball. And if that’s the case, I reasoned, then a “butterball” might be as well. Solid reasoning, just wrong. Plus, I missed the plural in the clue.
55A Upon realizing that there was no This American Life shorthand or radio genre category that could fit into 5 squares, i figured it had to be (real life) second cousin Philip.
Needed two cheats, to get YANN Thiesen (didn't know YESAND) and EPICGAMES (didn't know PIG). I also had "pennyante" before RINKYDINK and "catscan" before PETSCAN. But I'm rationalizing...a Saturday solve with two lookups is better than a DNF.
End of the week level toughness - but some obscure trivia and blah longs water it down. Rex highlights most of the odd proper names - needed all the crosses for YANN and URIE.
RINKY DINK is pretty neat. SOFA COVERS and LITERALIST not so much. QUEER whatever - same with UNCANNY VALLEY. Best ONION ROLLS around here come from Salvadoran bakery.
Pleasant enough Saturday morning solve. Given the choice - I’ll take Lester Ruff’s Stumper over this one.
Was no one else bothered by the dupe crossing of “oil” in the REOILS answer with the “oil smugglers” clue for ART THIEVES? Actually caused me to doubt slotting in REOILS…
I recall reading or hearing somewhere that as a rule a word is never duplicated in a puzzle, whether in clue or answer form. That’s something I’ve always kept in mind. Can anyone confirm this?
Anonymous 7:24 AM Some commenters are bothered by dupes. Some are not. Rex is bothered by them. But he realizes the same thing I do. Shortz and company are not concerned at all by dupes. There are no rules against them. Rex has said he only bothers to complain if they are “egregious “. I tend to agree with Shortz. And I often don’t even notice them. Bottom line, Shortz is not listening to complaints about dupes.
A capital-P Puzzle, riddles galore. Seven no-knows. Plenty of wait-fors (clues yielding several answers). Even [Fencing option] – are we talking the sword sport or area enclosure?
I love things like this that set me behind in filling out a grid, hills to conquer. What results are oho’s and aha’s and TILs, those Crosslandia carrots that keep me coming back. And the sweet feeling at fill-in that it was well-earned.
The stars of the box today are the horizontal triple stacks in the NE and SW. First, they are remarkably fresh – all NYT debuts in the NE, and in the SW, two debuts and one once-before. Second, they are so varied! Can you get more disparate than SOFA COVERS, ART THIEVES, and UNCANNY VALLEY? Or QUEER THEOLOGY, GUTTERBALL, and LITERALIST? Mwah!
I liked UTTER crossing UTTER in the SW. I loved what happened when I saw HAIRY abutting ELSIE – my brain shouted “When Hairy met Elsie!”. (Hello, Meg Ryan fans!)
Needless to say, Tracy, I relished your first-class creation. Thank you so much for this!
I was set to complain about bUTTERBALL, but it turns out it's my DNF and not the puzzle's problem.
Fairly hard overall. SOFt COVER instead of SOFA COVER gave a lot of issues up top, and QUEER idOLOGY did the same down bottom.
I mention this once a year or so, but the P in PET SCAN stands for positron, a form of anti-matter. What the scan detects is the matter-antimatter annihilation going on inside your body.
PET scans are one of the coolest imaging techniques ever. By attaching a fluorine18 to a sugar (or antibody in the case of amyloid/tau in Alzheimers) and infusing it, it accumulates in the area of interest. The F18 decays to Oxygen18 (a proton turns into a neutron emitting a positron and a neutrino). The neutrino flies away undetected but the positron immediately encounters an electron and they both get annihilated emitting two high energy photons in opposite directions. These are detected and create a pixel. A 3D picture is thus painted.
Had a Peruvian colleague at Mansfield University who once did a memorable campus presentation about the QUIPU, so that was a gimme. Being UTTERly unfamiliar with UNCANNY VALLEY, I desperately wanted WALL-E to work. Alas, hyphens do not count as letters.
For those wondering, after my post yesterday, it was not a good night for our terrified dog Teddy, as the fireworks in our ambitious neighborhood went on past 3:30. But, bless his soul, today is a brand new day, and he's eager and spry as always. What a champ!
I don’t know if it’s just my neighborhood or everywhere, but it seems to me that fireworks are getting much louder. The last couple of years it has sounded like cannons going off. My dog who normally seems oblivious to it all, was even agitated and barking last night. But thankfully, it was at least over at a respectable hour.
My dog decided he needed the sound of running water to distract him from the fireworks. Or better yet a fountain! So he went into the bathroom and turned on the bidet attachment on the toilet.
After I finished cleaning up the puddles he flipped it on again, just to let me know it was no accident. We finally had to tape down the lever
Great Puzzle, Tracy! Wow, so many fresh (and good!) debuts, thanks @Lewis. Did it last nght, took me 21 minutes, so that's in medium territory for me for Saturday. Terrific puzzle, very little gunk. Took me forevuh (!) to see COOLANT which I should have known right away. GUTTERBALL and LITERALIST were great fun as clued. Thanks!
Felt like the crossword equivalent of blind man’s bluff today, as I wandered about the grid until I bumped into something I didn’t know - which generally felt like a brick wall. CHASSE - bang, TIERRA - ouch ! QUIPU - oops, URIE - sorry, I didn’t mean to step on you.
And what, are we treating typists like first-graders - they can’t remember the word asterisk and we have to call it the STAR KEY ?
I did think that clues for ART THIEVES and GUTTER BALL were pretty creative though.
Rex’s comment “beyond my ken” about sums it up for me. Had to cheat to get started on this one, but eventually enjoyed the solving. Got a kick out of getting GUTTERBALL from a couple of crosses, and liked RINKYDINK as well. LITERALIST and COOLANT were also fun finds. On the other hand, UNCANNYVALLEY and QUIPU were unknowns and less fun, but were interesting to learn, so there’s that.
Lots not to love here. Onion bagel (or bialy), which didn’t fit, makes a lot more sense for the clue. LONE is ranger, not survivor. And it’s definitely booze first, then “neat.” I mean, you wouldn’t say “on the rocks vodka” so why say NEAT VODKA?
I'm in the CATSCAN/BUTTERBALL crowd today, best Aha! was seeing GUTTERBALL. Great clue. Guessed ARTTHIEVES off the possible ALEVE cross and away I galloped, or trotted anyway.
Lots of unknowns. UNCANNYVALLEY? QUEERTHEOLOTY? CA DETBLUE sounded sort of familiar and it worked. YANN? EPICGAMES? I blame myself for not knowing NENA right away, I always know there are two N's and two vowels but that's all. Remembered QUIPU eventually as I have taught about the Incas, but that was a while ago. And I did get STARKEY instantly as I took typing in high school and that must be where I heard it. Extremely useful course, BTW. I could still center a title on a manual typewriter, but that skill has gone the way of the buggy whip.
Very satisfying solve today, TB. Not Too Bad. Not Too Bad at all, and thanks for all the fun.
Hey All ! Wowsers on my part, finished in 30 minutes! With strange things I didn't think could possibly be correct, ala QUIPU. Sounds more like an insult.
Had an O at the cross of UNCANNYVOLLEY/CHOSSE, but said to myself, "Keep an eye on that O, it might be an A." So, after I filled in that crazy SW corner, finished puz, got the Almost There pop-up, and decided to change that O to an A, and voila, Happy Music filled the air. Almost told the puz to QUIPU.
Also had SOFtCOVER in, giving me a head scratching _ETTVODKA. "I've heard of Skyy VODKA, but what brand is this?" was my thought. Luckily, the ole brain kicked in to see SOFA/NEAT. What's with the wayward A's today?
In SW, had QUILL and BlaST first. Took a bit to get off those, especially for unknown QUIPU. fADEdBLUE/foeS before CADETBLUE/CADS. ENVELOP doesn't look like a real word. Are we going to start naming our girls PENELOP? IDEA or deal is a four letter Kea-Loa. Neat clue on ARTTHIEVES (Oil smugglers?)
@Roo IDEA / deal doesn’t fit the definition of a kealoa, which requires at least one letter the same. I don’t know if we have a word for two equally valid answers for a clue with all letters different. Another in this puzzle is 15A obed/ EDIE. And of course 13D / 60A though I agree with Rex the clue doesn’t really land for either.
Very solid puzzle but challenging for me on most of the same points RP discussed. SOLE survivor before LONE and if someone wanted a straight shot of the VODKA in my liquor cabinet, I’d never expect them to ask for it NEAT. The QUIPU, the books, the actor, the composer, the singer, the river, the dance – all unknowns. But I will offer up a defense of STAR KEY. Back in the dark ages when I was learning on a manual Underwood typewriter, that’s what we called it.
The Pere Marquette River is a designated National Wild and Scenic River. It is marvelous and I've canoed on it several times. The first time was 60 years ago when my Boy Scout troop went on a week long canoe camping trip. The river ends at Lake Michigan near Ludington.
Feeling you today @Lewis - my standard poodle hates thunder and fireworks. She just barks a lot and tries to climb in bed with us, but last night was really rough in our neighborhood. My husband mumbles something about drones, airhorns, and 4 a.m. wake up calls for the locals who insist on noise making until the wee hours. She's fine this morning but demanding "good food" (i.e. eggs) for breakfast.
I enjoyed solving today, although my last entry involved going through the alphabet to get a sensical answer for YANN/Yesand. Loved UNCANNYVALLEY, RINKYDINK, and ARTTHIEVES. I'm not a fan of the "name hidden in this word" clues but they always help.
Monday-easy for me (8:57) so kind of a disappointment in that respect but otherwise, nicely done. Just stopped by to complain about UNCANNYVALLEY as clued but Rex more than adequately covered that blemish. The answer is great. I knew from QUIPU but needed the crosses for the spelling. Including QUEERTHEOLOGY, which is definitely a thing and not a hard solve for me, but hey, I'm Episcopalian. I want to make something of the fact that it's separated from LITERALIST by GUTTERBALL but I'm not sure what. Loved the clue for OPERA, which didn't slow me up a bit, being a fan of him since long back. Speaking of being an Episcopalian, Alice Goodman, librettist of Nixon in China and Klinghoffer, was a parishioner at the church down Mass Ave from Harvard where I was also a member while working on my PhD, and was seeking ordination. Which upon googling her I see she achieved in 2001.
Priest: When will you do your penance? Parishioner: I'll ATONE ATONE, after I take my dog for 3D imaging. Priest: You mean a PETSCAN? Parishioner: Make sure your subject and verb agree, father. One pet can, two PETSCAN.
No question that Flik from "A Bug's Life" is a COOLANT, but don't count on him to keep your car from overheating. On the whole, though, I'd rather have 1000 ants than a PEERAT.
Why does Ringo Starr's name get an asterisk? Because it's wrong unless you use the STARKEY.
Some very clever cluing mixed in with some complete unknowns made this a tough one. But not a HISS or any TSKS will you hear from me. I loved it! Thanks, Tracey Bennett.
Quick aside: the talented Ms.Weintraub has a tribute puzzle in People that (I believe) was published yesterday. It’s easy as the dickens, but may be a good match for any of the Monday downs-only solvers with a few minutes to burn. I can never seem to get the links to post correctly - but I’ll drop it below if you want to cut and paste.
JC66 is the best re: Embedding Cheat Sheet - thank you! I, on the other hand, still haven't gotten the hang of it (???) but will continue trying (elsewhere) without messing up Rex's blog :)
@SouthsideJohnny 9:40 AM Robyn Weintraub publishing tennis-themed crosswords in People magazine is to Dante Alighieri publishing ghost stories in Highlights magazine. I did learn there is a brand called Uniqlo which sounds a bit like Uniclue, so I am going to go look for sponsorship.
I’ve never heard someone say neat vodka or neat any other liquor for that matter. It’s the liquor than neat, like vodka neat. It means the liquor without ice.
If they gave you 5000 guesses -- and you had UNCANNY something-or-other -- would you ever guess VALLEY as the 2nd word? Me neither. This is certainly one of the oddest phrases ever invented. I can understand something like UNCANNY HUMANITY or UNCANNY REALITY. How about SPOOKY DETOO? UNCANNY VALLEY is so anti-intuitive that I'm predicting it won't have staying power. Unless, of course, it's been around forever -- and it's already proved it has.
Back to the rest of the puzzle. It's a NIFTY Saturday, lively and well-clued. Colorful fill like TONGUE TIED and RINKY-DINK. Nice clues for CADET BLUE; CHASSE and GUTTER BALL. Liked how HISS and TSKS were clued the same way. Not too many names. QUIPU, which I'll remember for less than 5 minutes, was fairly crossed. Hard in places, easy in others, and very enjoyable.
23 down "They're not as sweet as porters" =ALES is utter nonsense. Porter is a type of ale. Many ales are sweeter than porter. Learn about beer before putting qn incorrect clue in your puzzle
Some of this was easy and some of this was pretty tough.
NW and SE were on the easy side.
SW was tougher as QUIPU was a WOE and I had BlasT before BURST.
The whole center section was tough for me. YANN, URIE, UNCANNY VALLEY, QUEER THEOLOGY, and STAR KEY (how about a Ring clue?) were WOEs. NEAT VODKA did not come easily, I’m still trying to figure out the clue for ARE, ConS before CADS and BeLTED before BOLTED, plus the OIL dupe made me pause…tough center!
Fenómeno inquietante cuando un robot parece demasiado real.
Overall great word choices and lots to discover here. As good as themeless get, and beyond my ability in several spots. So many missteps I'm surprised I ever cleaned it all up. Great puzzle and glad it's over.
Nice to put a name on the UNCANNY VALLEY feeling when you see all these fake robots on screens everywhere now including some nails-on-a-chalkboard corporate training I've been doing lately.
I'm gonna guess the Unabridged Complete History of Queer Theology fits on one-page.
My only Jewish bakery experience is from Seinfeld, so you could tell me anything is their specialty and I'd believe you.
I would require a corporate training on how to use a QUIPU. I would probably wear it as a necklace and be mocked by the ancient ones.
1 One square foot of bubble wrap. 2 Big heads in the painted head underground. 3 Bad bowling babe. 4 Squirts lotion everywhere. 5 Quiet response to "why does your breath smell like that?" 6 Best bellies? 7 Helpful person's role during a late night group activity in Arkansas.
1 SOFA COVERS UNIT 2 ART THIEVES' EGOS 3 GUTTERBALL LADY 4 SLUE HAND GLOB 5 UTTER, "ONION ROLL" 6 HAIRY ARE NIFTY 7 REOILS Y'ALL
My Fascinating Crossword Uniclue Keepsake from Last Year: Negotiator offers poor alternative to jumping off a roof. REN FAIRE? YES? NO?.
yep. BLOCKY but not Brutalist themeless SatPuz. Some fave & no-know combos: 1. QUIPU - Interestin Inca CPA tool. 2. URIE - That there "shorty" Geller dude must be jealous. 3. UNCANNYVALLEY - Sounds like an area that don't allow metal chow containers. 4. QUEERTHEOLOGY - Its "Take Back the Word" clue part sounds kinda apt. 5. EPICGAMES - After-solvequest research helped M&A make sense of its {Fortnite developer} clue. Video games advertisement meat. 6. ARE - the official staff weeject pick of the day, from a mere bare-boney 3 choices. Had the best crypto-clue of the trio.
Thanx for the queer and uncanny and semi-epic solvequest, Ms. Bennett darlin. Learned lotsa neat, weird stuff. Did you, also, durin yer constructioneerin?
Masked & Anonymo6Us
... speakin of QUEER puzzle stuff ...
"QueeR Codes" - 7x7 12 min. *illustrated* and themed runt puzzle:
Way too much garbage in this puzzle for the handful of phrases that hit. Stuff I’ve never heard of: SLUE, QUIPU, URIE, YANN, UNCANNYVALLEY, ENLAI, PETSCAN. Throw in some of the usual garbage (ie. OSSO, TSKS, AMIE), and this puzzle was not enjoyable. I got roughly 3/4 done and just stopped.
Saturday should be the marquee puzzle day. Is the NYT really paying an editor for this?
The center section hung me up. I tried to make NEAT NO ICE work, tried to make UNCANNY WALL-EY work (even though I know the movie robot is WALL-E), just couldn't get STAR KEY and VODKA. Also had troublewith YANN and YES AND, which, when I read everyone else's comments, I trust I will come to understand! All in all, an appealing and doable puzzle for me, except for those two spots. Every now and then a Saturday still stumps me.
Well it seems like years since my last stab at a puzzle. I pick a Saturday to rattle my brain which seems like its been rattled a lot.
First entry PET SCAN and then an uh oh. I've had so many scans lately and the worst MRI in this century for torture. OK @kitshef....If you're still around. Can you speak to me in NEAT VODKA terms? I'm having a PET SCAN this Monday and I really want to know what matter-antimatter annihilation really means....If they discover an UNCANNY VALLEY inside my brain, does this mean I'm not good for this earth? Do tell...
I remembered (or at lest knew) QUIPU so I got the QUEER part. Although I have no idea what "Jonathan Loved David" was about, the book title gives you pretty good hint. THEOLOGY was easy enough with easy down clues.
The YANN here, and EDIE with ELSiE names were unknown. I really, really dislike clues like 49D. I really don't care what becomes another woman's name even if you remove the HAIRY EYED LADY's RINKY DINK.
GILL I Someone once said here that Shortz loves those change a letter name clues and other words games. For some reason the one in this puzzle annoyed me also. It seemed a step too far I happened to have had a PETSCAN in December The procedure is okay unless you’re claustrophobic
@Gill I - first of all, good luck and I know a lot of people on this blog will be thinking of you.
As to PET SCANs, Anonymous @2:15 has a pretty good explanation. And for the annihilition part, what gets annihilated is just some electrons in your body, and you have a lot of those. If something wiped out a trillion electrons in you, you'd still have 99.99999999999999% left over.
Another late night solve, hoping to be able to post before I go to bed. We’ll see …
I had more fun with this one than yesterday’s. Liked a few of the long answers, especially RINKYDINK at 31D and UNCANNYVALLEY at 22A. Never heard that before but it is wonderfully descriptive of the place you might find yourself in with that robot. There was also one short one at 29A, PERE, that I loved because, although I don’t participate in the normal nerd-sports of Star Wars or fantasy lit like Lord of the Rings or comic books and their movie spin-offs, I do geek out on books about fly fishing. I probably have as many as 200 volumes dedicated to the sport, some dating back the beginning of the last century, and the PERE Marquette is mentioned in more than a handful of them. Finally, my peculiar pastime pays off! Take that European football freaks and chess fanatics. You too, gamers!
Also nailed 55A OPERA because, ever since I accidentally, while in a, let’s just say, altered state of consciousness, found my way into a movie theatre in Victoria, BC that was showing Koyaanisqatsi, a brilliant and very beautiful movie scored by Philip Glass, I’ve been a fan.
A few nits: I’m not fond of the find-the-hidden-word entry at 15A or the re-arrange the letters one at 49D, both involving women’s names but those names were easy enough compared to YANN and URIE. Thank you, crosses. And I’m not sure TONGUETIE is a real verb.
@Les, hands up for discovering Philip Glass via Koyaanisqatsi. For those who haven't seen it, it has no characters, no "plot", and no dialog. Half the people left the theater before the halfway point, and I thought: what is wrong with them? This is magnificent.
And another hand up for the "brilliant and very beautiful" Koyaanisqatsi, even tho, when I first saw it, I was already familiar with Philip Glass from my college job working in the control room of the campus NPR station.
This Saturday puzzle was chock full of booby traps, but the one that almost threw me was that earth : sun analogy. Since we were dealing with astronomical bodies, I jumped to the conclusion that sol was Latin, giving me TERRA for the earth; when it wouldn't fit, I started looking for another Latin word, which I couldn't find on account of its nonexistence. Nothing in that clue hints at Spanish--especially since I had a big deal for 40-A. OK, that was my fault, although deal is plausible enough for that clue. I was very slow to see STAR KEY, due to the fact that typists do not call it that, on account of there being no such key on a typewriter--it's shift-8 to get a *. Texters and other phone-users call it that, but they are not typing--that's what you do on a TYPEwriter.
The clue isn't unfair -- I got it, and it is Saturday -- but it did make the puzzle appropriately tough.
Here is a picture of a famous brutalist building,the Carpenter Center for the Visual Arts at Harvard University. Not particularly BLOCKY. I think the puzzle is operating under the assumption that "brutalist" means "brutish." It does not; the name comes from bruton, the French word for concrete; the architectural style takes advantage of the ability of concrete to take on many shapes, including curves, that are difficult to achieve with more traditional materials--sort of a precursor of Frank Gehry. Sometimes it is blocky, sometimes it is not. End of rant.
TIL that “brutalist” has nothing to do with brutality. I figured it was one of those terms coined by people who didn’t appreciate the style, like “impressionism.” Gotta say, most concrete-forward buildings are not to my taste, but a few are very nice indeed. Thanks, jberg, for clearing that up.
Good rant, @jberg. Perhaps the clue should have read "Like Brutalist architecture, often. I worked in a Brutalist building for about 15 years. You can see it here:
It's a bit more than half way down the page. 200 Granville Street, aka Granville Square.
The blogger refers to it as "Brutalism at its most banal". Because of its repeated recessed windows I came to call it, when I became sorely disenchanted with my job, The Cell Block, or the Prison Tower. Fortunately, the plaza outside was a good place to relax with a cigar and there were lots of bars in the area.
@okanagener. They're pretty similar, aren't they? What makes the MacBlo Building a classic is that was pretty unique for its time - late 60s - and was designed by an up-and-coming star architect while my Granville Square cell block was kind of a knock-off designed a couple of decades later.
Okanaganer I also think you’re correct about the French origin of the term. As a rule I don’t like brutalist architecture. (The photo showed a an exception). Boston City Hall is liked by some but most in Boston do not like that mid sixties brutalist building Especially the work force. And the plaza is even worse. In 1968 in high school my school moved from an 1890’s building to a brutalist building that I hated so maybe I am biased!
Would someone please explain YESAND? Does it refer to the Ariana Grande song, and if so, how does that relate to "One of the pillars of improv"? Thanks.
AI Overview Yes, "Yes, and..." is widely considered a pillar of improvisation. Here's why: Acceptance: The "Yes" part of the phrase means accepting the reality or suggestion presented by your scene partner. Building: The "and..." encourages you to add new information or build upon what has been established, moving the scene forward.
I grew up in Door County Wisconsin, where we learned in school about the French explorers who sailed down Green Bay in their canoes to make the first European contact, so I knew all about PERE MARQUETTE (who has an anonymous university in Milwaukee) and Joliet, as well as Lasalle.
Zhou ENLAI, under the earlier spelling of his name (Chou) is in an OPERA, "Nixon in China" by John Adams. Everything is connected.
I couldn't finish the puzzle (newbie here), but I did know Yann (though I thought it might be Jann at first). Am I the only one? I'm a bit of an accordion waltz aficionado.
I was so chuffed to get UNCANNY VALLEY right away!…then I made the mistake of thinking it was QUEER MARRIAGE, as I already had the G from EPIC GAMES set down…bit of backspacing for that section!
And TIL what a QUIPU is! And maybe 3 ppl in history have ever ordered NEAT VODKA, it’s always: alcohol, neat/rocks & that’s that.
I've been watching "Get Back" - when song credits are given Ringo is Richard Starkey. Looking at my partial answer made me think of his name and I had a "Doh" moment.
A puzzle from the Editor of Wordle! Hard in spots for me - URIE, QUIPU, UNCANNY VALLEY, & for some unknown reason had Nancy for CAREY for the longest time - & can someone explain 5D YESAND for me? I can relate to 4th of July dog trauma stories & miss my dog (Cinnamon) so much :( Thank you, Tracy :)
Rex thanks for that awesome Disco song! Totally rad.
The clue for UNCANNY VALLEY is technically a bit off, but actually fair enough because it is most often used when a robot is too lifelike, as opposed to say humans being too robotic. However, I agree NEAT VODKA said basically no one ever.
Big troubles for me in the bottom where I had QUEER IDEOLOGY which I could not get past. I just couldn't imagine that there would be such a thing as QUEER THEOLOGY. CADET BLUE and ELISE didn't help there. No idea on QUIPU or URIE, but I did know most of the other names including YANN, NENA, and Philip Glass for his operas.
@ anon 7:24 I read your comment and went back to the puzzle to try to understand what you were talking about. Don't see it. Oil in the clue dos not "cross" oil in the answers. If I thought anything about the word oil appearing ing twice I would think of it as interesting how different the meanings can be. Perhaps as interesting word play.
Egsfor, your goofy dialog scene started me chuckling and the following comments kept me smiling, except: I don't get the"1000ants peerat" Agree Flik is a very cool ant.
I was checking out yesterday's comments to admire any later ones and found that someone had mentioned ATTA as something I would call and "old friend", which I would but the @Anon writer referred to me as "@pedro". This has happened before, and as I may have explained, is interesting because I do have an older brother named Peter. We were two years apart in school and I got somewhat used to being addressed wrongly, but the most UNCANNY time had to be when a new teacher, who had never had my brother in class, as he had graduated, took it upon himself to use said mistaken appellation. I mean, really.
Also, the expression "rob Peter to pay Paul{ has always appealed to me.
Also, there is no "Mary", something I have been asked more than a few times.
A rewarding puzzle - tough for me to crack, satisfying to finish, keeping my spirits up along the way with gems like UNCANNY VALLEY and RINKY DINK. Thank you to @rex for explaining the "Alley" pun for GUTTERBALL.
In the "I knew because" category....Like @jberg, in school I learned all about PERE Marquette and Joliet in Wisconsin history; and I have Mrs. Olson in 7th grade Geography to thank for QUIPU. I learned UNCANNY VALLEY in connection with Spielberg's movie A.I. and see evidence of BLOCKY Brutalism on every trip through the UW Madison campus, where a misbegotten concrete monstrosity, known as The Bunker, looms over a main intersection.
And in the "am I really that old?" department: Zhou EN LAI is historical?
This played hard for me because I had SLUE right away, just nor spelled right and didn't know CADET BLUE was a thing, which unfortunately left me hanging on to "CADIE BLUE" and "QUEER IDEOLOGY" (probably would have helped if I had attended to the second book title in the clue). As far as I know, PETSCANs are no more 3D than MRIs or CTs--all are forms of tomography)--so Rex has dishonored not his [fa]ther.
I was hoping Starkey could have had a musical clue. And I'm not sure it's a typing term. More like something people born in the 20th century would remember from their touch tone phones.
ReplyDeleteMedium-Challenging.
Overwrites:
At 4D, my diagnostic was @Rex caT SCAN before it was PET
Guessed Yves for the French composer at 5A (YANN was also a WOE)
My 14A survivor was (@Rex again) sOlE before he was LONE
SoFT COVERS (on books) prevent stains almost as well as SOFA COVERS (18A)
My 51A noble title was eArl before it was LADY
YEAS aren't the only votes for (52D); there are ayeS, too.
WOEs:
The aforementioned YANN Tiersen at 5A
19D CHASSE, and the etymology in the clue
QUIPU at 46D
Brendon URIE at 56A
SOdA watERS prevent stains!
DeleteIt is the sodium in the soda water - so don't try sodium free for stain removal!
DeleteAlso, who calls them "SOFA" COVERS? They're Slip COVERS.
DeleteIf a man says something in the forest, and his wife is not there to hear him, is he still wrong?
ReplyDeleteDuh
DeleteNo, but he might be sexist. Or old enough to think harpy wife jokes are funny.
Delete“harpy wife” is funny
DeleteBLOB/BUTTERBALL seemed to work as well as GLOB/GUTTERBALL.
ReplyDeleteSame problem here. Took me forever to track down that one!
DeleteSame here
DeleteHow does BUTTERBALL work for [Alley oops]?
DeleteOops and butterfingers might have been the connection for the butterball contingent. Hadn't occurred to me.
DeleteDespite my abysmal ignorance of most things sporty, I’m vaguely aware that an “alley oop” is something in basketball. And if that’s the case, I reasoned, then a “butterball” might be as well. Solid reasoning, just wrong. Plus, I missed the plural in the clue.
Delete55A Upon realizing that there was no This American Life shorthand or radio genre category that could fit into 5 squares, i figured it had to be (real life) second cousin Philip.
ReplyDeleteNeeded two cheats, to get YANN Thiesen (didn't know YESAND) and EPICGAMES (didn't know PIG). I also had "pennyante" before RINKYDINK and "catscan" before PETSCAN. But I'm rationalizing...a Saturday solve with two lookups is better than a DNF.
ReplyDeleteEnd of the week level toughness - but some obscure trivia and blah longs water it down. Rex highlights most of the odd proper names - needed all the crosses for YANN and URIE.
ReplyDeleteA Letter to ELISE
RINKY DINK is pretty neat. SOFA COVERS and LITERALIST not so much. QUEER whatever - same with UNCANNY VALLEY. Best ONION ROLLS around here come from Salvadoran bakery.
Pleasant enough Saturday morning solve. Given the choice - I’ll take Lester Ruff’s Stumper over this one.
The Replacements
Was no one else bothered by the dupe crossing of “oil” in the REOILS answer with the “oil smugglers” clue for ART THIEVES? Actually caused me to doubt slotting in REOILS…
ReplyDeleteYes!
DeleteYes, that bugged me too.
DeleteI recall reading or hearing somewhere that as a rule a word is never duplicated in a puzzle, whether in clue or answer form. That’s something I’ve always kept in mind. Can anyone confirm this?
DeleteAnonymous 7:24 AM
DeleteSome commenters are bothered by dupes. Some are not. Rex is bothered by them. But he realizes the same thing I do. Shortz and company are not concerned at all by dupes. There are no rules against them. Rex has said he only bothers to complain if they are “egregious “.
I tend to agree with Shortz. And I often don’t even notice them.
Bottom line, Shortz is not listening to complaints about dupes.
A capital-P Puzzle, riddles galore. Seven no-knows. Plenty of wait-fors (clues yielding several answers). Even [Fencing option] – are we talking the sword sport or area enclosure?
ReplyDeleteI love things like this that set me behind in filling out a grid, hills to conquer. What results are oho’s and aha’s and TILs, those Crosslandia carrots that keep me coming back. And the sweet feeling at fill-in that it was well-earned.
The stars of the box today are the horizontal triple stacks in the NE and SW. First, they are remarkably fresh – all NYT debuts in the NE, and in the SW, two debuts and one once-before. Second, they are so varied! Can you get more disparate than SOFA COVERS, ART THIEVES, and UNCANNY VALLEY? Or QUEER THEOLOGY, GUTTERBALL, and LITERALIST? Mwah!
I liked UTTER crossing UTTER in the SW. I loved what happened when I saw HAIRY abutting ELSIE – my brain shouted “When Hairy met Elsie!”. (Hello, Meg Ryan fans!)
Needless to say, Tracy, I relished your first-class creation. Thank you so much for this!
I was set to complain about bUTTERBALL, but it turns out it's my DNF and not the puzzle's problem.
ReplyDeleteFairly hard overall. SOFt COVER instead of SOFA COVER gave a lot of issues up top, and QUEER idOLOGY did the same down bottom.
I mention this once a year or so, but the P in PET SCAN stands for positron, a form of anti-matter. What the scan detects is the matter-antimatter annihilation going on inside your body.
Among other things, it detects the plaque that is related to Alzheimers.
DeletePET scans are one of the coolest imaging techniques ever. By attaching a fluorine18 to a sugar (or antibody in the case of amyloid/tau in Alzheimers) and infusing it, it accumulates in the area of interest. The F18 decays to Oxygen18 (a proton turns into a neutron emitting a positron and a neutrino). The neutrino flies away undetected but the positron immediately encounters an electron and they both get annihilated emitting two high energy photons in opposite directions. These are detected and create a pixel. A 3D picture is thus painted.
DeleteHad a Peruvian colleague at Mansfield University who once did a memorable campus presentation about the QUIPU, so that was a gimme. Being UTTERly unfamiliar with UNCANNY VALLEY, I desperately wanted WALL-E to work. Alas, hyphens do not count as letters.
ReplyDeleteFor those wondering, after my post yesterday, it was not a good night for our terrified dog Teddy, as the fireworks in our ambitious neighborhood went on past 3:30. But, bless his soul, today is a brand new day, and he's eager and spry as always. What a champ!
ReplyDeleteI don’t know if it’s just my neighborhood or everywhere, but it seems to me that fireworks are getting much louder. The last couple of years it has sounded like cannons going off. My dog who normally seems oblivious to it all, was even agitated and barking last night. But thankfully, it was at least over at a respectable hour.
Delete@Lewis, does your dog have a thunder jacket? One worked wonders for us--pet stores sell them.
DeleteMy dog decided he needed the sound of running water to distract him from the fireworks. Or better yet a fountain! So he went into the bathroom and turned on the bidet attachment on the toilet.
DeleteAfter I finished cleaning up the puddles he flipped it on again, just to let me know it was no accident. We finally had to tape down the lever
Great Puzzle, Tracy! Wow, so many fresh (and good!) debuts, thanks @Lewis. Did it last nght, took me 21 minutes, so that's in medium territory for me for Saturday. Terrific puzzle, very little gunk. Took me forevuh (!) to see COOLANT which I should have known right away. GUTTERBALL and LITERALIST were great fun as clued. Thanks!
ReplyDeleteFelt like the crossword equivalent of blind man’s bluff today, as I wandered about the grid until I bumped into something I didn’t know - which generally felt like a brick wall. CHASSE - bang, TIERRA - ouch ! QUIPU - oops, URIE - sorry, I didn’t mean to step on you.
ReplyDeleteAnd what, are we treating typists like first-graders - they can’t remember the word asterisk and we have to call it the STAR KEY ?
I did think that clues for ART THIEVES and GUTTER BALL were pretty creative though.
Admittedly, it’s been a very long time since I was in HS typing class but STAR KEY is how it was referred to at that time.
DeleteBad clue, but a real thing. Phonebots are always telling me to press the pound key or the star key.
DeleteRex’s comment “beyond my ken” about sums it up for me. Had to cheat to get started on this one, but eventually enjoyed the solving. Got a kick out of getting GUTTERBALL from a couple of crosses, and liked RINKYDINK as well. LITERALIST and COOLANT were also fun finds. On the other hand, UNCANNYVALLEY and QUIPU were unknowns and less fun, but were interesting to learn, so there’s that.
ReplyDeleteLots not to love here. Onion bagel (or bialy), which didn’t fit, makes a lot more sense for the clue. LONE is ranger, not survivor. And it’s definitely booze first, then “neat.” I mean, you wouldn’t say “on the rocks vodka” so why say NEAT VODKA?
ReplyDelete"Acing" in Wordle is the same as getting a hole in one in golf. Our Wordle group considers 4 to be "par" with birdies, bogey, etc.
ReplyDeleteI'm in the CATSCAN/BUTTERBALL crowd today, best Aha! was seeing GUTTERBALL. Great clue. Guessed ARTTHIEVES off the possible ALEVE cross and away I galloped, or trotted anyway.
ReplyDeleteLots of unknowns. UNCANNYVALLEY? QUEERTHEOLOTY? CA DETBLUE sounded sort of familiar and it worked. YANN? EPICGAMES? I blame myself for not knowing NENA right away, I always know there are two N's and two vowels but that's all. Remembered QUIPU eventually as I have taught about the Incas, but that was a while ago. And I did get STARKEY instantly as I took typing in high school and that must be where I heard it. Extremely useful course, BTW. I could still center a title on a manual typewriter, but that skill has gone the way of the buggy whip.
Very satisfying solve today, TB. Not Too Bad. Not Too Bad at all, and thanks for all the fun.
Hey All !
ReplyDeleteWowsers on my part, finished in 30 minutes! With strange things I didn't think could possibly be correct, ala QUIPU. Sounds more like an insult.
Had an O at the cross of UNCANNYVOLLEY/CHOSSE, but said to myself, "Keep an eye on that O, it might be an A." So, after I filled in that crazy SW corner, finished puz, got the Almost There pop-up, and decided to change that O to an A, and voila, Happy Music filled the air. Almost told the puz to QUIPU.
Also had SOFtCOVER in, giving me a head scratching _ETTVODKA. "I've heard of Skyy VODKA, but what brand is this?" was my thought. Luckily, the ole brain kicked in to see SOFA/NEAT. What's with the wayward A's today?
In SW, had QUILL and BlaST first. Took a bit to get off those, especially for unknown QUIPU.
fADEdBLUE/foeS before CADETBLUE/CADS.
ENVELOP doesn't look like a real word. Are we going to start naming our girls PENELOP?
IDEA or deal is a four letter Kea-Loa.
Neat clue on ARTTHIEVES (Oil smugglers?)
Hope YALL have a great Saturday!
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@Roo IDEA / deal doesn’t fit the definition of a kealoa, which requires at least one letter the same. I don’t know if we have a word for two equally valid answers for a clue with all letters different. Another in this puzzle is 15A obed/ EDIE. And of course 13D / 60A though I agree with Rex the clue doesn’t really land for either.
DeleteVery solid puzzle but challenging for me on most of the same points RP discussed. SOLE survivor before LONE and if someone wanted a straight shot of the VODKA in my liquor cabinet, I’d never expect them to ask for it NEAT. The QUIPU, the books, the actor, the composer, the singer, the river, the dance – all unknowns. But I will offer up a defense of STAR KEY. Back in the dark ages when I was learning on a manual Underwood typewriter, that’s what we called it.
ReplyDeleteThe Pere Marquette River is a designated National Wild and Scenic River. It is marvelous and I've canoed on it several times. The first time was 60 years ago when my Boy Scout troop went on a week long canoe camping trip. The river ends at Lake Michigan near Ludington.
ReplyDeleteFeeling you today @Lewis - my standard poodle hates thunder and fireworks. She just barks a lot and tries to climb in bed with us, but last night was really rough in our neighborhood. My husband mumbles something about drones, airhorns, and 4 a.m. wake up calls for the locals who insist on noise making until the wee hours. She's fine this morning but demanding "good food" (i.e. eggs) for breakfast.
ReplyDeleteI enjoyed solving today, although my last entry involved going through the alphabet to get a sensical answer for YANN/Yesand. Loved UNCANNYVALLEY, RINKYDINK, and ARTTHIEVES. I'm not a fan of the "name hidden in this word" clues but they always help.
Thanks Tracy!
Monday-easy for me (8:57) so kind of a disappointment in that respect but otherwise, nicely done. Just stopped by to complain about UNCANNYVALLEY as clued but Rex more than adequately covered that blemish. The answer is great. I knew from QUIPU but needed the crosses for the spelling. Including QUEERTHEOLOGY, which is definitely a thing and not a hard solve for me, but hey, I'm Episcopalian. I want to make something of the fact that it's separated from LITERALIST by GUTTERBALL but I'm not sure what. Loved the clue for OPERA, which didn't slow me up a bit, being a fan of him since long back. Speaking of being an Episcopalian, Alice Goodman, librettist of Nixon in China and Klinghoffer, was a parishioner at the church down Mass Ave from Harvard where I was also a member while working on my PhD, and was seeking ordination. Which upon googling her I see she achieved in 2001.
ReplyDeletePriest: When will you do your penance?
ReplyDeleteParishioner: I'll ATONE ATONE, after I take my dog for 3D imaging.
Priest: You mean a PETSCAN?
Parishioner: Make sure your subject and verb agree, father. One pet can, two PETSCAN.
No question that Flik from "A Bug's Life" is a COOLANT, but don't count on him to keep your car from overheating. On the whole, though, I'd rather have 1000 ants than a PEERAT.
Why does Ringo Starr's name get an asterisk? Because it's wrong unless you use the STARKEY.
Some very clever cluing mixed in with some complete unknowns made this a tough one. But not a HISS or any TSKS will you hear from me. I loved it! Thanks, Tracey Bennett.
Quick aside: the talented Ms.Weintraub has a tribute puzzle in People that (I believe) was published yesterday. It’s easy as the dickens, but may be a good match for any of the Monday downs-only solvers with a few minutes to burn. I can never seem to get the links to post correctly - but I’ll drop it below if you want to cut and paste.
ReplyDeletehttps://people.com/people-puzzler-crossword-july-4-2025-11766019
@SS Johnny
DeleteEmail me and I'll send you my Embedding Cheat Sheet.
JC66 is the best re: Embedding Cheat Sheet - thank you! I, on the other hand, still haven't gotten the hang of it (???) but will continue trying (elsewhere) without messing up Rex's blog :)
Delete@SouthsideJohnny 9:40 AM
DeleteRobyn Weintraub publishing tennis-themed crosswords in People magazine is to Dante Alighieri publishing ghost stories in Highlights magazine. I did learn there is a brand called Uniqlo which sounds a bit like Uniclue, so I am going to go look for sponsorship.
Well, ‘boric’ does give one letter in the correct position today. Not a terrible start.
ReplyDeleteStarted with BORIC, (thanks Rex), got it on the second try!
DeleteI’ve never heard someone say neat vodka or neat any other liquor for that matter. It’s the liquor than neat, like vodka neat. It means the liquor without ice.
ReplyDeleteI actually started with "shot no ice" oops
DeleteIf they gave you 5000 guesses -- and you had UNCANNY something-or-other --
ReplyDeletewould you ever guess VALLEY as the 2nd word? Me neither. This is certainly one of the oddest phrases ever invented. I can understand something like UNCANNY HUMANITY or UNCANNY REALITY. How about SPOOKY DETOO? UNCANNY VALLEY is so anti-intuitive that I'm predicting it won't have staying power. Unless, of course, it's been around forever -- and it's already proved it has.
Back to the rest of the puzzle. It's a NIFTY Saturday, lively and well-clued. Colorful fill like TONGUE TIED and RINKY-DINK. Nice clues for CADET BLUE; CHASSE and GUTTER BALL. Liked how HISS and TSKS were clued the same way. Not too many names. QUIPU, which I'll remember for less than 5 minutes, was fairly crossed. Hard in places, easy in others, and very enjoyable.
Agreed re UNCANNY ——-had —-LLEY and no idea. And Rex, where does that graph come from? Sources/ credit always please..
DeleteAnyone else have ABACI for Quipu and SCORE for Opera? I was so confident in both of those, the SW took forever to solve.
ReplyDelete+1, and I thought I was soooo clever to get that right off the bat. Quipi? Really? But I tumbled to gutter ball so it had to be something else.
Delete23 down "They're not as sweet as porters" =ALES is utter nonsense. Porter is a type of ale. Many ales are sweeter than porter. Learn about beer before putting qn incorrect clue in your puzzle
ReplyDeleteCame to say exactly this. Got to be tons of actually accurate ways to clue ALES.
DeleteConcur. A bit like providing “they’re not as sweet as yellow labs” as a clue for “dogs”.
DeleteSome of this was easy and some of this was pretty tough.
ReplyDeleteNW and SE were on the easy side.
SW was tougher as QUIPU was a WOE and I had BlasT before BURST.
The whole center section was tough for me. YANN, URIE, UNCANNY VALLEY, QUEER THEOLOGY, and STAR KEY (how about a Ring clue?) were WOEs. NEAT VODKA did not come easily, I’m still trying to figure out the clue for ARE, ConS before CADS and BeLTED before BOLTED, plus the OIL dupe made me pause…tough center!
So, medium over all seems right.
Learned some stuff, liked it.
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Fenómeno inquietante cuando un robot parece demasiado real.
ReplyDeleteOverall great word choices and lots to discover here. As good as themeless get, and beyond my ability in several spots. So many missteps I'm surprised I ever cleaned it all up. Great puzzle and glad it's over.
Nice to put a name on the UNCANNY VALLEY feeling when you see all these fake robots on screens everywhere now including some nails-on-a-chalkboard corporate training I've been doing lately.
I'm gonna guess the Unabridged Complete History of Queer Theology fits on one-page.
My only Jewish bakery experience is from Seinfeld, so you could tell me anything is their specialty and I'd believe you.
I would require a corporate training on how to use a QUIPU. I would probably wear it as a necklace and be mocked by the ancient ones.
❤️ [Alley oops.] RINKYDINK.
People: 9
Places: 1
Products: 2
Partials: 1
Foreignisms: 3
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Gary's Grid Gunk Gauge: 16 of 68 (24%)
Funnyisms: 3 😐
Uniclues:
1 One square foot of bubble wrap.
2 Big heads in the painted head underground.
3 Bad bowling babe.
4 Squirts lotion everywhere.
5 Quiet response to "why does your breath smell like that?"
6 Best bellies?
7 Helpful person's role during a late night group activity in Arkansas.
1 SOFA COVERS UNIT
2 ART THIEVES' EGOS
3 GUTTERBALL LADY
4 SLUE HAND GLOB
5 UTTER, "ONION ROLL"
6 HAIRY ARE NIFTY
7 REOILS Y'ALL
My Fascinating Crossword Uniclue Keepsake from Last Year: Negotiator offers poor alternative to jumping off a roof. REN FAIRE? YES? NO?.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
yep. BLOCKY but not Brutalist themeless SatPuz.
ReplyDeleteSome fave & no-know combos:
1. QUIPU - Interestin Inca CPA tool.
2. URIE - That there "shorty" Geller dude must be jealous.
3. UNCANNYVALLEY - Sounds like an area that don't allow metal chow containers.
4. QUEERTHEOLOGY - Its "Take Back the Word" clue part sounds kinda apt.
5. EPICGAMES - After-solvequest research helped M&A make sense of its {Fortnite developer} clue. Video games advertisement meat.
6. ARE - the official staff weeject pick of the day, from a mere bare-boney 3 choices. Had the best crypto-clue of the trio.
Thanx for the queer and uncanny and semi-epic solvequest, Ms. Bennett darlin. Learned lotsa neat, weird stuff. Did you, also, durin yer constructioneerin?
Masked & Anonymo6Us
... speakin of QUEER puzzle stuff ...
"QueeR Codes" - 7x7 12 min. *illustrated* and themed runt puzzle:
**gruntz**
M&A
Way too much garbage in this puzzle for the handful of phrases that hit. Stuff I’ve never heard of: SLUE, QUIPU, URIE, YANN, UNCANNYVALLEY, ENLAI, PETSCAN. Throw in some of the usual garbage (ie. OSSO, TSKS, AMIE), and this puzzle was not enjoyable. I got roughly 3/4 done and just stopped.
ReplyDeleteSaturday should be the marquee puzzle day. Is the NYT really paying an editor for this?
Put “SODAWATERS” instead of SOFACOVERS, but I guess that’s more of a stain remover than preventer.
ReplyDeleteYann: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLXkjlbgpQ4
ReplyDeleteThe center section hung me up. I tried to make NEAT NO ICE work, tried to make UNCANNY WALL-EY work (even though I know the movie robot is WALL-E), just couldn't get STAR KEY and VODKA. Also had troublewith YANN and YES AND, which, when I read everyone else's comments, I trust I will come to understand! All in all, an appealing and doable puzzle for me, except for those two spots. Every now and then a Saturday still stumps me.
ReplyDeleteWell it seems like years since my last stab at a puzzle. I pick a Saturday to rattle my brain which seems like its been rattled a lot.
ReplyDeleteFirst entry PET SCAN and then an uh oh. I've had so many scans lately and the worst MRI in this century for torture. OK @kitshef....If you're still around. Can you speak to me in NEAT VODKA terms? I'm having a PET SCAN this Monday and I really want to know what matter-antimatter annihilation really means....If they discover an UNCANNY VALLEY inside my brain, does this mean I'm not good for this earth? Do tell...
I remembered (or at lest knew) QUIPU so I got the QUEER part. Although I have no idea what "Jonathan Loved David" was about, the book title gives you pretty good hint. THEOLOGY was easy enough with easy down clues.
The YANN here, and EDIE with ELSiE names were unknown. I really, really dislike clues like 49D. I really don't care what becomes another woman's name even if you remove the HAIRY EYED LADY's RINKY DINK.
Re: 49 D - me, too, and how!
DeleteI’ll be thinking of you Monday. 😘
DeleteGILL I
DeleteSomeone once said here that Shortz loves those change a letter name clues and other words games. For some reason the one in this puzzle annoyed me also. It seemed a step too far
I happened to have had a PETSCAN in December The procedure is okay unless you’re claustrophobic
@Gill I - first of all, good luck and I know a lot of people on this blog will be thinking of you.
DeleteAs to PET SCANs, Anonymous @2:15 has a pretty good explanation. And for the annihilition part, what gets annihilated is just some electrons in your body, and you have a lot of those. If something wiped out a trillion electrons in you, you'd still have 99.99999999999999% left over.
Another late night solve, hoping to be able to post before I go to bed. We’ll see …
ReplyDeleteI had more fun with this one than yesterday’s. Liked a few of the long answers, especially RINKYDINK at 31D and UNCANNYVALLEY at 22A. Never heard that before but it is wonderfully descriptive of the place you might find yourself in with that robot. There was also one short one at 29A, PERE, that I loved because, although I don’t participate in the normal nerd-sports of Star Wars or fantasy lit like Lord of the Rings or comic books and their movie spin-offs, I do geek out on books about fly fishing. I probably have as many as 200 volumes dedicated to the sport, some dating back the beginning of the last century, and the PERE Marquette is mentioned in more than a handful of them. Finally, my peculiar pastime pays off! Take that European football freaks and chess fanatics. You too, gamers!
Also nailed 55A OPERA because, ever since I accidentally, while in a, let’s just say, altered state of consciousness, found my way into a movie theatre in Victoria, BC that was showing Koyaanisqatsi, a brilliant and very beautiful movie scored by Philip Glass, I’ve been a fan.
A few nits: I’m not fond of the find-the-hidden-word entry at 15A or the re-arrange the letters one at 49D, both involving women’s names but those names were easy enough compared to YANN and URIE. Thank you, crosses. And I’m not sure TONGUETIE is a real verb.
@Les, hands up for discovering Philip Glass via Koyaanisqatsi. For those who haven't seen it, it has no characters, no "plot", and no dialog. Half the people left the theater before the halfway point, and I thought: what is wrong with them? This is magnificent.
DeleteAnd another hand up for the "brilliant and very beautiful" Koyaanisqatsi, even tho, when I first saw it, I was already familiar with Philip Glass from my college job working in the control room of the campus NPR station.
DeleteThis Saturday puzzle was chock full of booby traps, but the one that almost threw me was that earth : sun analogy. Since we were dealing with astronomical bodies, I jumped to the conclusion that sol was Latin, giving me TERRA for the earth; when it wouldn't fit, I started looking for another Latin word, which I couldn't find on account of its nonexistence. Nothing in that clue hints at Spanish--especially since I had a big deal for 40-A. OK, that was my fault, although deal is plausible enough for that clue. I was very slow to see STAR KEY, due to the fact that typists do not call it that, on account of there being no such key on a typewriter--it's shift-8 to get a *. Texters and other phone-users call it that, but they are not typing--that's what you do on a TYPEwriter.
ReplyDeleteThe clue isn't unfair -- I got it, and it is Saturday -- but it did make the puzzle appropriately tough.
Here is a picture of a famous brutalist building,the Carpenter Center for the Visual Arts at Harvard University. Not particularly BLOCKY. I think the puzzle is operating under the assumption that "brutalist" means "brutish." It does not; the name comes from bruton, the French word for concrete; the architectural style takes advantage of the ability of concrete to take on many shapes, including curves, that are difficult to achieve with more traditional materials--sort of a precursor of Frank Gehry. Sometimes it is blocky, sometimes it is not. End of rant.
TIL that “brutalist” has nothing to do with brutality. I figured it was one of those terms coined by people who didn’t appreciate the style, like “impressionism.” Gotta say, most concrete-forward buildings are not to my taste, but a few are very nice indeed. Thanks, jberg, for clearing that up.
Delete@jberg, I think "brutalism" comes from "beton brut" which is French for "raw concrete".
DeleteGood rant, @jberg. Perhaps the clue should have read "Like Brutalist architecture, often. I worked in a Brutalist building for about 15 years. You can see it here:
Deletehttps://nadyavera.blog/2024/06/25/brutalism-in-vancouver-2/
It's a bit more than half way down the page. 200 Granville Street, aka Granville Square.
The blogger refers to it as "Brutalism at its most banal". Because of its repeated recessed windows I came to call it, when I became sorely disenchanted with my job, The Cell Block, or the Prison Tower. Fortunately, the plaza outside was a good place to relax with a cigar and there were lots of bars in the area.
@Les, I've always liked the MacMillan_Bloedel_Building.
Delete@okanagener. They're pretty similar, aren't they? What makes the MacBlo Building a classic is that was pretty unique for its time - late 60s - and was designed by an up-and-coming star architect while my Granville Square cell block was kind of a knock-off designed a couple of decades later.
DeleteThese all look pretty blocky to me!!
DeleteChain about brutalism
DeleteBoston City Hall has its fans but most do not like it. Built in the mid sixties. I think brutal
Okanaganer I also think you’re correct about the French origin of the term.
DeleteAs a rule I don’t like brutalist architecture. (The photo showed a an exception). Boston City Hall is liked by some but most in Boston do not like that mid sixties brutalist building Especially the work force. And the plaza is even worse. In 1968 in high school my school moved from an 1890’s building to a brutalist building that I hated so maybe I am biased!
Would someone please explain YESAND? Does it refer to the Ariana Grande song, and if so, how does that relate to "One of the pillars of improv"? Thanks.
ReplyDeleteAI Overview
ReplyDeleteYes, "Yes, and..." is widely considered a pillar of improvisation.
Here's why:
Acceptance: The "Yes" part of the phrase means accepting the reality or suggestion presented by your scene partner.
Building: The "and..." encourages you to add new information or build upon what has been established, moving the scene forward.
Love the clue for 28D
ReplyDeleteI grew up in Door County Wisconsin, where we learned in school about the French explorers who sailed down Green Bay in their canoes to make the first European contact, so I knew all about PERE MARQUETTE (who has an anonymous university in Milwaukee) and Joliet, as well as Lasalle.
ReplyDeleteZhou ENLAI, under the earlier spelling of his name (Chou) is in an OPERA, "Nixon in China" by John Adams. Everything is connected.
I couldn't finish the puzzle (newbie here), but I did know Yann (though I thought it might be Jann at first). Am I the only one? I'm a bit of an accordion waltz aficionado.
ReplyDeleteI was so chuffed to get UNCANNY VALLEY right away!…then I made the mistake of thinking it was QUEER MARRIAGE, as I already had the G from EPIC GAMES set down…bit of backspacing for that section!
ReplyDeleteAnd TIL what a QUIPU is!
And maybe 3 ppl in history have ever ordered NEAT VODKA, it’s always: alcohol, neat/rocks & that’s that.
I've been watching "Get Back" - when song credits are given Ringo is Richard Starkey. Looking at my partial answer made me think of his name and I had a "Doh" moment.
ReplyDeleteA puzzle from the Editor of Wordle!
ReplyDeleteHard in spots for me - URIE, QUIPU, UNCANNY VALLEY, & for some unknown reason had Nancy for CAREY for the longest time - & can someone explain 5D YESAND for me?
I can relate to 4th of July dog trauma stories & miss my dog (Cinnamon) so much :(
Thank you, Tracy :)
Rex thanks for that awesome Disco song! Totally rad.
ReplyDeleteThe clue for UNCANNY VALLEY is technically a bit off, but actually fair enough because it is most often used when a robot is too lifelike, as opposed to say humans being too robotic. However, I agree NEAT VODKA said basically no one ever.
Big troubles for me in the bottom where I had QUEER IDEOLOGY which I could not get past. I just couldn't imagine that there would be such a thing as QUEER THEOLOGY. CADET BLUE and ELISE didn't help there. No idea on QUIPU or URIE, but I did know most of the other names including YANN, NENA, and Philip Glass for his operas.
@ anon 7:24 I read your comment and went back to the puzzle to try to understand what you were talking about. Don't see it. Oil in the clue dos not "cross" oil in the answers. If I thought anything about the word oil appearing ing twice I would think of it as interesting how different the meanings can be. Perhaps as interesting word play.
ReplyDeleteEgsfor, your goofy dialog scene started me chuckling and the following comments kept me smiling, except: I don't get the"1000ants peerat"
ReplyDeleteAgree Flik is a very cool ant.
Hello @Sharon
DeleteIt's PEE RAT.
Rather have 1000 ants than a PEE RAT. Har!
RooMonster Pinch Answering For @egs Guy
I was checking out yesterday's comments to admire any later ones and found that someone had mentioned ATTA as something I would call and "old friend", which I would but the @Anon writer referred to me as "@pedro". This has happened before, and as I may have explained, is interesting because I do have an older brother named Peter. We were two years apart in school and I got somewhat used to being addressed wrongly, but the most UNCANNY time had to be when a new teacher, who had never had my brother in class, as he had graduated, took it upon himself to use said mistaken appellation. I mean, really.
ReplyDeleteAlso, the expression "rob Peter to pay Paul{ has always appealed to me.
Also, there is no "Mary", something I have been asked more than a few times.
A rewarding puzzle - tough for me to crack, satisfying to finish, keeping my spirits up along the way with gems like UNCANNY VALLEY and RINKY DINK. Thank you to @rex for explaining the "Alley" pun for GUTTERBALL.
ReplyDeleteIn the "I knew because" category....Like @jberg, in school I learned all about PERE Marquette and Joliet in Wisconsin history; and I have Mrs. Olson in 7th grade Geography to thank for QUIPU. I learned UNCANNY VALLEY in connection with Spielberg's movie A.I. and see evidence of BLOCKY Brutalism on every trip through the UW Madison campus, where a misbegotten concrete monstrosity, known as The Bunker, looms over a main intersection.
And in the "am I really that old?" department: Zhou EN LAI is historical?
The comment was mine.
DeleteThis played hard for me because I had SLUE right away, just nor spelled right and didn't know CADET BLUE was a thing, which unfortunately left me hanging on to "CADIE BLUE" and "QUEER IDEOLOGY" (probably would have helped if I had attended to the second book title in the clue). As far as I know, PETSCANs are no more 3D than MRIs or CTs--all are forms of tomography)--so Rex has dishonored not his [fa]ther.
ReplyDeleteI liked "alley oops" - it tickled my funny bone
ReplyDeleteYou are correct about "onion roll." Not Jewish specific, just weird. AND I now know that when I'm invited to your home, I must bring my own vodka.
ReplyDeleteYou are correct about "onion roll." Not Jewish specific, just weird. AND I now know that when I'm invited to your home, I must bring my own vodka.
ReplyDeleteLONE Survivor was also a movie, reasonably popular in 2013.
ReplyDeleteToday the LA Times had the superior puzzle.
ReplyDeleteI was hoping Starkey could have had a musical clue. And I'm not sure it's a typing term. More like something people born in the 20th century would remember from their touch tone phones.
ReplyDeleteRex, a CAT SCAN and a PET SCAN are both 3D imaging, so nothing for your radiologist father to be disappointed about!
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