Xi's language / SAT 5-24-25 / Xenomorph who can produce humanoid offspring / Thin rods, in some product names / Infamous denier of Mary and Joseph / Location where a video game character starts (or restarts) a level / Rock band founded by three sisters / Course on behavior / Shelters from the heat? / Younger contemporary of Virgil / Incredulous reply to a daring scheme

Saturday, May 24, 2025

Constructor: Gene Louise De Vera

Relative difficulty: Easy


THEME: none 

Word of the Day: "Hey ARNOLD!" (44A: "Hey ___!" (Nickelodeon cartoon of 1996-2004)) —

Hey Arnold! is an American animated sitcom created by Craig Bartlett for Nickelodeon. It originally aired from October 7, 1996, to June 8, 2004. The show centers on fourth grader Arnold Shortman, who lives with his grandparents in an inner-city tenement in the fictional city of Hillwood. Episodes center on his experiences navigating urban life while dealing with the zany hijinks he and his friends encounter. Many episodes, however, focus on other characters, including major, secondary, supporting, and even minor characters.

Bartlett's idea for the show is based on a minor character named Arnold who he created while working on Pee-wee's Playhouse. The executives enjoyed the character, and Bartlett completed the cast and setting by drawing inspiration from people and locations he grew up with in Seattle, WashingtonPortland, Oregon; and Brooklyn, New York. Bartlett created the pilot episode in his living room in 1994 and official production began in 1995. The animators worked to transform Arnold from clay animation to cel animation, leading to the series premiere in 1996. Hey Arnold! was the final series to be green lit (along with Kablam!) under the leadership of network president Geraldine Laybourne. Production on the show concluded on December 7, 2001, after 5 seasons and 100 episodes. Its last episode aired unannounced on June 8, 2004. A feature film based on the series, Hey Arnold!: The Movie, was released in theaters on June 28, 2002. All five seasons have been released on DVD.

On March 2, 2016, a television film continuation of the series, Hey Arnold!: The Jungle Movie, was greenlit. It picks up from where the series ended and resolved unanswered plotlines of the story. The film premiered on November 24, 2017, on Nickelodeon, Nicktoons NetworkTeenNickNickRewind and on November 24, 2018 as an international theatrical release, wrapping up the series' storyline.

• • •

Found this very easy despite the fact that it seemed like it was made for a person who was very much not me. Video game levels, social media stars ... you know, I don't think I've seen even a single movie in the Alien franchise. The very existence of that first one traumatized me so bad as a kid that I never had any interest in it, or any of its many follow-ups, as an adult. So ALIEN QUEEN? (11D: Xenomorph who can produce humanoid offspring). I mean, I could infer it, but it was just blah blah blah to me. Weird to have a franchise-specific answer without being able to mention the franchise in the clue. Seems like there might, theoretically, be all kinds of ALIEN QUEENs out there ... you know, in space ... not all of whom are xenomorphs who can produce humanoid offspring. So lots of this was just not in my range of interests. And yet, I smoked it. I think the answers I mentioned were just about the only hold-ups I had at all in this puzzle. As for the cross-referenced grid-spanners ... pretty tepid. Kind of a yawn. I know the phrase "cautiously optimistic," but CAUTIOUS OPTIMISM ... yes, I guess I know that too, but it doesn't land with quite the same force / familiarity. I'm not sure PLEASANT SURPRISE ties to CAUTIOUS OPTIMISM that well. I think PLEASANT SURPRISE is something you experience when you really didn't expect things to turn out so good, whereas CAUTIOUS OPTIMISM has you leaning toward positive expectations. Anyway, neither phrase made me sit up and applaud. But they're 16s (as opposed to the usual 15 for grid-spanners), so if nothing else their presence here means you get More Puzzle, and that's ... something. 


I like two-A RIGAMAROLE (6A: Song and dance) because it's really, technically supposed to be one-A "rigmarole," so if you say it with the four syllables implied by two-A RIGAMAROLE, it makes some people mad—the kind of people it's fun to make mad. Seriously, though, this should be marked with "Var." or something, because it's not just an alternative to "rigmarole," it's a far less common alternative. In fact, merriam-webster dot com has "less commonly, RIGAMAROLE" right there at the top of the definition. As I was writing it in, I thought, "huh, I thought this was spelled 'rigmarole'." And it is. So hurray, memory. But also hurray, flexibility and moving right along. Not loving "I NEVER WILL," since it only makes sense, or truly resonates, as the back end of a statement, i.e. following "and" (e.g. "I've never even bothered to look up who 'Social media star' Addison RAE is, and I NEVER WILL"). The phrase all on its own, just standing there, not framed as a follow-up or add-on, seems strange. Big fan of ILL-ADVISED and especially "YOU WOULDN'T!" That last one has some real colloquial heat. Very dramatic. But my feelings about the rest of the puzzle were mostly "this is fine, but not really for me." That's OK. Not all puzzles have to be made for me. As long as such puzzles don't tax me too much, I don't mind them that much.


Assorted points:
  • 1A: Course on behavior (PSYCH) — me: "SEX ED"; this is how I convinced myself that Iowa was somehow in the "E"astern time zone (EDT), despite being directly underneath Minnesota, which I know is in the "C"entral (CDT) (4D: Summer hrs. in Iowa).
  • 28D: Shelters from the heat? (SAFE HOUSES) — me: "SAFE HAVENS." 
  • 16A: Lyrical piece (EPODE) — never really bothered to learn the difference between this and a regular old ODE. Crazily, the American Heritage Dictionary has seven (7) (!?) definitions for EPODE

noun

  1. 1. A lyric poem characterized by distichs formed by a long line followed by a shorter one.
  2. 2. The third division of the triad of a Pindaric ode, having a different or contrasting form from that of the strophe and antistrophe.
  3. 3. The part of a choral ode in classical Greek drama following the strophe and antistrophe and sung while the chorus is standing still.
  4. 4. The after song; the part of a lyric ode which follows the strophe and antistrophe, -- the ancient ode being divided into strophe, antistrophe, and epode.
  5. 5. A species of lyric poem, invented by Archilochus, in which a longer verse is followed by a shorter one. It does not include the elegiac distich.
    "the Epodes of Horace"
  6. 6. The after song; the part of a lyric ode which follows the strophe and antistrophe.
  7. 7. A kind of lyric poem, invented by Archilochus, in which a longer verse is followed by a shorter one
  • 43A: Rock band founded by three sisters (HAIM) — new album, I Quit, out next month. I assume they're not actually quitting. I enjoy their music, and am a huge fan of their performances in the movie Licorice Pizza (Alana is the star of that movie, but her sisters are in it (playing her sisters), as are her parents (playing her parents!)). Here is an ironic and/or apt tidbit from their wikipedia page:
On April 23, Haim held one of two surprise concerts at the Bellwether theater in Los Angeles, their first full concert in nearly two years. During the gig, the band played in front of a screen with the words "I quit" which was later announced to be the title of the album. The trio performed their previously released singles as well as the live debut of the third single "Down to Be Wrong" and the unreleased album cut "Blood in the Streets", while the latter performance was joined by American singer Addison RAE. ["singer!?" that was not in the clue]
  • 1D: River that once marked the boundary of the Wild West (PECOS) — wait, you're telling me that "the Wild West" was a specifically demarcated piece of land and not just an abstract concept used to sell TVs and movies?  Like ... the "Wild" West was distinct from just "the West"? This is all news to me. But I still got this answer really easily. "Fastest gun west of the PECOS"—that's a phrase from ... something, isn't it? LOL yes, Yosemite Sam! My foundational source of all things Wild Western:
  • 24D: Xi's language (GREEK) — see, this is why you should never pay attention to current events— I just yesterday read some article about our current buffoonish administration's ongoing attacks on Harvard and the effects that the most recent dumb-ass and probably illegal order (prohibiting Harvard from enrolling foreign students) might have, specifically on students from China (where most of Harvard's foreign students come from). And I think that article mentioned that Xi Jinping had a child that went to Harvard (yes, true—she attended under a pseudonym and studied English and PSYCH). The point is, I was primed to see "Xi" as the leader of China. So my first reaction to this clue was "... what the hell languages do they speak in China besides Mandarin and Cantonese? That are five letters starting with 'G'!?" But as you've likely guessed by now, "Xi" here refers not to the Chinese president, but to the Greek letter:
[Xi, letter between Nu and Omicron, "representing the voiceless consonant cluster [ks]." (wikipedia)]
  • 34D: A flute might have a short one (STEM) — the flute here is a glass ("champagne flute"), not a musical instrument:

See you next time.

Signed, Rex Parker, King of CrossWorld

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99 comments:

Conrad 6:07 AM  


Thank you, @Rex, for providing yet another reason for not paying attention to current events!

Easy puzzle. Not much I didn't know or couldn't figure out.

Only one overwrite, my brand at 29D was a noun, ScAR, before it was the verb SEAR.

WOEs:
I never heard of SPAWN POINT (2D) or ALIEN QUEEN (11D), but they were easy enough to figure out.
The rock band HAIM (43A)

Kinda-WOEs:
I got Hey ARNOLD (44A), but I have no clue where in my brain it came from. Same with Addison RAE at 56D.
I've heard of Hans ARP (9D) but I'm not familiar with the sculpture mentioned in the clue. It didn't matter, since I didn't see the clue until after I was done.

Dale Gribble 6:27 AM  

Whoops. A Tuesday puzzle fell onto my saturday puzzle

Son Volt 6:54 AM  

Liked it but definitely not Stumper level. Tough not to find SEA TURTLE and RIGAMAROLE charming. Yea - the gamer slant will turn some off but I take no issue.

Come on and turn it on, wind it up, blow it out

Always thought ANNUL was religious and divorce was legal. INSTA - HI DEF etc are a turn off. Some nice misdirects - charges between states and such so kept it somewhat interesting. The SINES clue is stretching it.

Pleasant enough Saturday morning solve. Kate Chin Park’s highly segmented Stumper grid will give you all the fight this one doesn’t.

RISE to Me

Rick Sacra 7:00 AM  

17 minutes for me this morning, enjoyed it a lot! The "minitheme" or the two 16s connected by their cluing was fun, loved seeing SEATURTLES and SPAWNPOINT

Rick Sacra 7:03 AM  

Whoops hit publish too soon. And loved the symmetrically placed "YOU WOULDNT" and "ILLADVISED" which seem connected too. My main writeovers were HEIR for aunt and then later EPODE for EtuDE. Thanks so much, Gene, for an interesting and unique Saturday morning grid, with a lot of fresh material!!!! : )

Anonymous 7:06 AM  

Annulments are definitely legal, (don't) ask me how I know

Anonymous 7:10 AM  

I thought it was great. A nice amount of crunch and sparkle. Crunch sparkle.

kitshef 7:15 AM  

Quite a lot easier than yesterday, even in an oversized grid.

Here's a type of clue I have never gotten, and will probably never get if I live to be 100: "Social media star ____".

And a dirty little secret. Whenever I see one of those time zone clues, I fill in the first letter (C today) and the T, and wait on crosses for the middle letter. Because I never have any idea whether summer is D and winter is S or vice versa.

Bob Mills 7:19 AM  

Rex called it "easy," and I finished it without cheating (thanks to a lucky guess at the SIM/MESS cross), but it seemed Saturday-level tough to me, at least in the beginning. I had "costar" instead of COLEAD for a long while (is COLEAD a real word?). Once I intuited CAUTIOUSOPTIMISM from the crosses, PLEASANTSURPRISE was inferable. ALIENQUEEN was also a lucky guess.

My parents used the word RIGAMAROLE to describe mixed-up things, never "rigmarole." They both grew up in Brooklyn, so maybe it's a regional difference. It's news to me that "rigmarole" is the preferred version.

Danny 7:21 AM  

Yeah, a stretch, but it’s the Sines of the Times.

Lewis 7:37 AM  

I wish I was there when Gene realized that CAUTIOUS OPTIMISM and PLEASANT SURPRISE had an equal number of letters. Jaw-drop moment, I’m guessing, and likely the SPAWN POINT of this puzzle.

In any case, he still had to build a puzzle around it. And this one had fine bones:
• Range. An answer set that included biology, religion, geography, history, law, science fiction, the arts, and lovely colloquial phrases.
• Design. A grid never before used in the Times, one that enabled not only the two 16s, but ten 10s!
• Spark. Nine NYT answer debuts, including I NEVER WILL and YOU WOULDN’T, in addition to the two spanners. Plus hardly-used-before ENTRY LEVEL, ILL ADVISED, and STILL I RISE.
• Lack o’ junk. A sweetly scrubbed box.

I had no-knows and misdirects to overcome, satisfying my brain’s workout ethic, plus moments of splash-fill, adding thrill, all in this high-quality setting.

In other words, a most splendid outing. This was a gift, Gene, and thank you so much for making it!

Anonymous 7:41 AM  

I thought it was excellent. Very tidy. Great job, Gene.

EasyEd 7:43 AM  

One of those off days here. Loved the longer phrases but just drew blanks on sort stuff. For example, threw in PSYCH right away, then could not finish EPODE to save my life. HAIM and ARNOLD were mysteries, and had trouble putting the P on ARP, even though “The World According to gARP” kept running through my head. But ALIENQUEEN and SPAWNPOINT made perfect sense. The mind is a strange place…

waryoptimist 8:03 AM  

Nice makeup for yesterday's disappointment. On the way side. Started slow with 3D YOUDIDWHAT and had to go back, but it wasn't hard to repair. No resistance in the middle.
I like my tag better than CAUTIOUSOPTIMISM, but that one's close enough to my world view to fill right in. The bottom longs were fun and easy as well. No complaints on this baby, quality throughout

If you're looking for a workout this am, the LAT has a toughie from Erik Agard

pabloinnh 8:06 AM  

A tenuous start but good flow after that. This is one of those puzzles where one thing I knew invariably led to filling in something I didn't, e.g. . SPAWNPOINT and ALIENQUEEN. Still don't know NWA and have no reason to know any "social media stars". Sorry, Mr. RAE.

I have sung in our local Christmas pageant for over forty years and been the voice of either Joseph or the INNKEEPER for most of those, so intimate knowledge there.

NH is one of the few states that has no SALESTAX. No income tax either. They make up for this in lots of other ways, mainly ridiculous property taxes.

I liked this one a lot, GLDV. A Great Little Diversion, Very well done, and thanks for all the fun.

MaxxPuzz 8:22 AM  

Ditto for me in the Milwaukee area. As for other trivia, I learned the "correct" version at one point from doing crossword puzzles.

Liveprof 8:24 AM  

An annulment means the marriage never existed. A divorce means it existed but has ended.

So this couple comes in to the lawyer's office and says they want a divorce. The husband is 97 and the wife is 94. The lawyer says "Why now?" And the husband explains they were waiting for the children to die.

Dr.A 8:25 AM  

I liked it, found it a little harder than most of the commenters and Rex. But that may be because I was doing it on no coffee at 4am (don’t ask) but now that I’m fully awake, it’s fun and hard enough for me.

SouthsideJohnny 8:27 AM  

I was disappointed when I saw that SINES was the answer to that clue. To me, SINE is a wave, not something that produces one. Maybe there is an alternate definition with which I am not familiar. At the worst, I guess a Clarence Darrow (or maybe a PHD in math) could attack it from the formula angle - when you create a graph from a sine formula, you do create waves. Still, pretty poorly clued, IMHO.

Similarly, I thought the clue for SHAQ was flat-out sloppy (and lazy). What was that, like 15 years ago he played there? He played for the Celtics as well - try cluing him as a “Celtic Center” and see how far that flies.

I put my two nits on the editor though, as it would have been easy to come up with reasonable clues for both of them, and the rest of the grid was actually kind of fun - I even parsed together that whole Xenomorph situation without ever seeing one of the movies.

Liveprof 8:31 AM  

Shoutout to Nick Saban, former Bama football coach, who does a great job, IMO, as a nasty INNKEEPER in a TV ad.

Check-in time is 3 o'clock.
It's 2:55.
I know.

Anonymous 8:55 AM  

Huh. I have only ever heard RIGAMAROLE, I had no idea there was even an alternate (let alone dominant!) spelling/pronunciation that people fight over. You learn all sorts of stuff from the crossword.

Anonymous 9:00 AM  

I also have only heard RIGAMAROLE.

RooMonster 9:00 AM  

Hey All !
Regular tough SatPuz here. Resisted running to Google, and was able to finish sans cheat! Didn't get the ole Happy Music upon completion, though. Found a mistake with OUTEr/COLEAr. I said, "What in tarhooties is COLEAR?" Turns out, nothing. Saw that it was COLEAD, so entered the D, still no Happy Music. Hmm, says I. Finally saw I had fUSeS in for RUSTS, also wondering what a HEIF was. Didn't notice the INSEA that the incorrect E made it, but once I realized HEIf was supposed to be HEIR, I then saw the misplaced E, changed it to the correct T, and finally got the sweet dulcet tunes of said Happy Music.

This was a sorta-kinda almost mini-theme with the corresponding 16's. Was it a PLEASANT SURPRISE? For a SatPuz, yes. If it were Friday, then no.

Scene from Pirates of the Caribbean:
"How'd you get off that island?"
"SEA TURTLEs, mate"

Funny misstep, had HEEL as HEAL, so my 57A started IN A, naturally wrote in INApigseye. It fit!

That's enough of my RIGAMAROLE FELLAS and QUEENs.

Happy Saturday.

Two F's
RooMonster
DarrinV

White's World 9:25 AM  

Sorry rust does not mean inoperable. It either means a coating of iron oxide or a plant disease but a rusted thing may and generally are operable.
also Shaq is a FORMER Heat Center. I realize that would make the clue less diversionary, but the clue is incorrect as written.

egsforbreakfast 9:29 AM  

I did 51A in very bright crayons, resulting in neon SINES.

A COLEAD might persuade undecided Oklahomans to re-elect Tom Cole.

Eton MESS sounds like a typical day for my dog.

New Hire: I'm not sure that this ENTRYLEVEL job is cut out for me. I try to get people to buy our product, but I just end up exhausted.
Boss: Yeah, SALESTAXES.

Leona Helmsley would file a right to possession at the drop of a hat. She was ALIENQUEEN (as well as the Queen of Mean).

Our kids were so hung up on spelling a really nasty word with their plastic letters that we had to HIDEF. It still left them able to spell YOU SUCK. Kids say the darndest things, right?

What did the proofing bread dough say to the liquor-producing apparatus? STILLIRISE.

My experience was identical to @Rex's. Thanks for a fun one, Gene Louise De Vera.

burtonkd 9:37 AM  

@Pabloinnh, that would be Mrs or miss RAE. I did what RP didn’t and looked her up and just OUTED myself as a non TIKTOK viewer as she made her initial fame there.

- I liked this one and found it easy for a Saturday.

- Did anyone else read the entire EPODE definition and still have no idea what one is?
- Hands up for only having heard RIGAMAROLE. It sounds more like what it is in 4 syllables. Anamatapoeia
- If I were constructing a puzzle and had RVL, I would assume I had to rework that section, but RVLOT is solid enough - and I doubt I would see that solution.
- Seems like even ENTRYLEVEL jobs are disappearing as recent college grad options…

meichler 9:47 AM  

Summer has more daylight and daylight saving time was created to shift daylight from early morning when most are still asleep to the evening when people are more likely to be awake. Thereby “saving” the daylight from being wasted on a sleeping populous. So summer hours are D (daylight) and winter hours are S (standard).

Beezer 9:48 AM  

Yes, a divorce severs the marriage but the marriage legally “existed.” Annulment results in a declaration that the marriage didn’t legally exist.

Carola 10:17 AM  

Challenging for me, because of a self-inflicted wound in the NW: "dsT" instead of CDT - no excuse for that, given decades of filling in EDT, PST, etc. Since I didn't know SPAWN POINT, I couldn't see PSYCH. Anyway - I realized my error at the last minute and was able to finish.

Other than that struggle, solving was a pleasure. I especially liked the INNKEEPER reference, writing in RIGAMAROLE, and the echo of the -ISE refrain in the SE corner: PLEASANT SURPRISE, STILL I RISE, ILL-ADVISED.

pabloinnh 10:18 AM  

Ms. RAE, so let it be written, so let it be done. Thought I was making a safe assumption with "Addison", but I've made this kind of mistake before. And you know what they say about "ass u me".

Mark 10:19 AM  

PECOS came easily to me because I remembered that Judge Roy Bean was known as "the law west of the Pecos." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Bean

Anonymous 10:28 AM  

Easy Wednesday-level time on a 15x16 Saturday. This should've been swapped with yesterday's puzzle, which did give me some Saturday-esque struggles.

I had YOU DID WHAT? at 3D before YOU WOULDN'T. So I was (PLEASANTly) SURPRISEd to see how WHAT was clued.

Three clues of note - the "S" trio:
SHAQ - I got right away that Magic was supposed to be the team, though I wanted "center" to be a location, like a stadium or something, which I would have no hope of knowing. Instead it's a position and the answer is just SHAQ.
SEAR - This went in quickly because I've recently seen "brand" for SEAR... in the Guardian cryptic. [Coat brand Mark is wearing] for SMEAR in the Thursday puzzle.
SINES - nope. The "wave" is the shape of the graph of the SINE function. I guess SINE "produces" the wave... when you graph it... but it doesn't work for me. It's even more awkward in the plural.

jberg 10:31 AM  

I'd say that I started with CAUTIOUS OPTIMISM, and it was a PLEASANT SURPRISE when I finished--but there are 31 comments already, and surely someone has said that already. Plus, I'm not sure I got it -- is ALIEN QUEEN a thing? Is she the alien in that movie? I've never seen it, and it was a long time ago.

But what a beautiful puzzle --RIGAMAROLE! YOU WOULDN'T! And so many more.

Photomatte 10:37 AM  

Shaq was drafted by the Orlando Magic

Photomatte 10:38 AM  

COLEAD?

jberg 10:50 AM  

That dictionary needs editing--several of those definitions are duplicates, including two of the 'form of lyric poem developed by Astrilochus' ones.

In Sturgeon Bay WI I always heard the 2-A version of RIGAMAROLE; never encountered the 1-A until reading Rex just now.

I thought the misdirect on XI was brilliant.

Dr Random 11:00 AM  

A notoriously bad speller, I had no idea about the rigmarole/rigamarole thing and had no raised eyebrows at the spelling in the puzzle, so it was only upon coming to the blog that I learned the four-syllable pronunciation I’ve been using is technically wrong. Despite trusting Rex, I was still doubtful of the commonality of the correct spelling over the one I had assumed, such that I had to go to Google to see the number of hits on each…and then learned that Google removed that feature a year ago apparently, but then learned that you can still get the number of hits by clicking “Tools,” and then had Rex’s statement confirmed (1,010,000 vs. 415,000 hits). A lot of learning this morning!

I was delighted to have the full title of a Maya Angelou poem (“STILL I RISE”) the day after having AUDRE LORDE’s full name.

kitshef 11:08 AM  

Thank you, but even if I understood that, I can assure you I would not remember it in a week.

beverly c 11:10 AM  

I didn't see all of the Alien franchise, but the offspring of the ALIEN QUEEN in the first few - well, it would be a stretch to call them humanoid. Maybe the clue wasn’t referring to any particular xenomorph.

West of the PECOS was a book by Zane Gray I enjoyed as a youngster, so PECOS popped right in. Growing up immersed in western mythology I've always thought of the Rockies as the diving line of the west, though the “wild” edge kept moving. At one point Dodge City Kansas was wild and west. Missouri too, though I don’t recall seeing it referred to that way.

This puzzle took about half my Saturday time, the right half filling in pretty quickly with the help of RIGAMAROLE (the extra A is the variant I know) and SEA TURTLE leading to the ALIEN QUEEN. The left was another story.

That opened up with INNKEEPER and SAFEHOUSES, hesitating there since I relate them more to gang war instead of shelter from the law. Loved YOU WOULDN’T, which I got from the DNT.

Liked the related long pairs.

kitshef 11:15 AM  

The astinishing thing to me is how many rigamarolers we have today. I've never heard rigamarole before; only rigmarole.

Dr Random 11:17 AM  

I didn’t mind the word, but the clue felt off. Most things I’ve lead have been taking one for the team, whereas the spotlight suggests basking in attention.

jae 11:19 AM  

Yep, easy and much easier than yesterday’s for me.

Costly erasures - Coca before CHIA and EtuDE before EPODE.

I did not know SPAWN POINT and RAE.

Smooth with some nice long downs, liked it.

Anonymous 11:26 AM  

HIRES before HIDEF. Otherwise smooth as silk. Fun way to start the day.

Nancy 11:29 AM  

With CAUTIOUS OPTIMISM -- which at times felt a lot closer to pessimism -- I ground this out, and my ability to finish with no cheats came as a PLEASANT SURPRISE. COSTAR before COLEAD was a real stumbling block -- but when the language turned out to be GETEK, I finally got around to changing it.

A real kealoa for me has always been HI RES vs HI DEF. And because YOU WOULDNT is such a DOOK-y entry -- was it SNT or DNT? -- I seesawed between them. I also couldn't think of the name of anyone in the Bible who'd been mean to Mary and Joseph -- but later realized it wasn't a name, it was a job.

"Easy", Rex WENT today. I go: "hard as hell." Very glad I finished.

Nancy 11:56 AM  

I thought of PECOS immediately -- not that I have the slightest idea where it's located -- because of the song. Don't remember the title, the singer, or most of the lyrics, but I do remember these:

And down by the PECOS she left me alone.

...and give me your hand,
There's many a river that waters the land.


Anyone remember it? It was very catchy.

Anonymous 11:57 AM  

Are we not going to
mention the awfulness of “co-lead” (as opposed to co-star)? Who uses that as a verb? Had they said “sharer of the spotlight” then maybe, but …

Nancy 12:00 PM  

@kitshef -- And I thought that I was forgetful!

jb129 12:12 PM  

Like a (very) few here, I didn't find it Easy, in particular SPAWN POINT, HAIM, ALIEN QUEEN. But it's Saturday & I did enjoy the journey. Thank you, Gene Louise :)

Anonymous 12:15 PM  

Was the Pecos river really a line of demarcation? Well according to Judge Roy Bean: East of the Pecos was law and order, West of it was just badmen, and rattlesnakes

burtonkd 12:30 PM  

I missed the Ms. angle. Seems to be a stage name, so anything could be possible.

Gary Jugert 12:44 PM  

Looks like I'm not getting posted again today. (Maybe a little too far on the ALIEN QUEEN SPEW uniclue?) Anyhoo, just wanting to assure everyone that I am living west of the Pecos right now and there are only bad men, rattlesnakes, and a few lovely ladies here.

Anonymous 12:48 PM  

I have never once in my life seen or heard RIGAMAROLE spelled or pronounced as “rigmarole.” It’s wild to me that it’s actually a “less common” variant. Who knew!

Bob Mills 1:02 PM  

For Wary Optimist: Thanks for the heads-up in re the L.A. Times puzzle. Very good suggestion. I finished it with a "score" of 698. Do you know wha that number means?

MetroGnome 1:05 PM  

Still have no idea who or what a SIM is. Never heard of Addison RAE, either.

Anonymous 1:16 PM  

People saying they’ve “never” seen “rigmarole” simply aren’t telling the truth or aren’t paying attention. It’s standard spelling. Took me no time to find a recent article in the NYT that spells it that way.

“Just how much of this rigmarole was desperate rationalization versus deliberate scheming is never entirely clear.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/13/books/review/originial-sin-jake-tapper-alex-thompson.html

Masked and Anonymous 1:28 PM  

Slightly easier than yesterday's themeless, at our house. But still, had some spunk to it.
Only a few total no-knows: HAIM. NWA. RAE. That there SPAWNthingy. ARNOLD. Well ... maybe HAIM sounds extra-vaguely familiar, from somewheres.

staff weeject pick: SIM. Nice techy pairin with: HIDEF. SPAWNthingy. SORT. TIVO. SINES. INSTA.
honrable mention to: OWW.

fave stuff: CAUTIOUSOPTIMISM & PLEASANTSURPRISE mini-theme puzgrid-spanners. RIGAMAROLE. YOUWOULDNT. All Xenomorph references [schlock flick points]. SHAQ clue.

Couple of ?-marker clues, at least. fave: The SAFEHOUSE one.

Thanx for the workout, Mr. De Vera dude. Good stuff. Congratz on puz #2 -- nice to REMET yah.

Masked & Anonymo8Us

... and, a part-in shot ...

"State-of-the-Part" 7x7 12 min. themed runt puzzle:

**gruntz**

M&A

okanaganer 1:32 PM  

@kitshef re CST etc: I have the opposite problem; I know the S vs D, but not the first letter (where the heck is Iowa actually?), so I put in -DT.

Anonymous 1:33 PM  

Yup.

Anonymous 1:34 PM  

If they entice you behind squeaky double doors, be right careful, I reckon.

okanaganer 1:35 PM  

@Dr Random: Google Ngrams is a great tool; but it measures appearances in print rather than hits. Here is rigmarole vs rigamarole.

CDilly52 1:39 PM  

Can’t believe I almost beat my Saturday best time today. My app keeps track and I look at it maybe twice a year, on a day like today when I am stunned at my time with a puzzle with so many answers I Just. Don’t. Know. Credit goes to our constructor today. Thank you Gene Louise De Vera for the fair crosses!

EPODE is one of those words I learned or came across when studying poetry and have never used in a sentence thereafter. Only used in crosswords. It’s so technical a term (thanks @Rex for including the massive definition) that I’d bet only scholars use it in technical analyses of ancient GREEK poetry.

Which beings me to XI’s language. I went down the same rabbit hole wondering what the heck Chinese language starts with a G?!

Also, hand up for RIGAMAROLE. In fact, I had a brief discussion in 7th grade English with Mrs. Roenker when she counted me off for “misspelling” it with the extra A. I brought her three different dictionary entries - copied by hand in the days before copy machines were everywhere - showing “my” spelling as correct (albeit alternate). “We use primary spellings in my class. Make your corrections and resubmit.” Please, please, please hear the Charlie Brown “adult sound effect” here, friends. So I did. I “corrected” to RIG’MAROLE. She let it alone with the comment “you remembered the purpose of the apostrophe in a contraction.” I truly thought I would not live through 7th grade. Pretty sure Mrs. R had similar thoughts about me.

Next I couldn’t remember the KEEPER of INNKEEPER! I thought manager and concierge and left it blank until my brain (again) went to Charlie Brown casting - I think its Frieda (girl with the naturally curly hair) - as the INNKEEPER’s wife in Charlie Brown Christmas. “do INNKEEPER’s wives have naturally curly hair?” she asks. Aha!

And so it went. Me not having any idea about gaming and modern rap, or anything in this puzzle’s realm, but whizzing through with some really good guesses and the extra fair crosses. On to Sunday stalwart solvers!

Peace, love and solving❣️

okanaganer 1:42 PM  

This didn't seem particulary easy to me; kinda medium. I agree with Rex that an apter pair of long answers would be something like INNATE PESSIMISM and PLEASANT SURPRISE.

Another poetry clue today! At least I've heard of STILL I RISE, probably from crosswords.

The clue for UHHUH seems off... "Yeah, sure" looks sarcastic but "uh-huh" basically just means "yup".

Les S. More 1:42 PM  

Me too,and I live on the west coast of Canada.

Anonymous 2:14 PM  

S for summer and savings

Les S. More 2:21 PM  

Too easy, even for me. And not very exciting. Apart from SEATURTLES (wonderful creatures) and RIGAMAROLE, I can’t find any words that really entertained me. And, yes, I spell it with 2 As.

Unknown to me were SPAWNPOINT, ALIENQUEEN (actually, these two are colourful enough to qualify as entertaining), HAIM, and, of course Social media star Addison RAE for most of the reasons given by previous commenters.

Also got momentarily misled at 24D GREEK and thought Xi’s language was a great clue.

Pretty quick. Pretty pleasant. But I would have enjoyed more sparkle.

Hugh 2:24 PM  

Threw down CAUTIOUSOPTIMISM with no letters at all and - PLEASANTSURPRISE - it was right!
Had some fun with this one today - I liked the spanners more than @Rex did and thought they fit well together.
Though I enjoyed the solve, I was stymied in so many places. The mis-direct (an somewhat clever) cluing really fooled me fair and square. I just could not get off the musical instrument angle of flute (34D- STEM) and the "neck" in 23A just would not compute. Kudos to the cute cluing.
I also had IMOVERTHAT instead of the correct INEVERWILL for the longest time which held me up for a bit. Looking at it, I like my answer better.
I liked the long downs, though ALIENQUEEN is (and will likely remain) an unknown to me. But as @Rex said - fairly easy to infer.
I continue to misspell TIVO (I always put in an "e") so it took a few seconds of staring at the answer and craning my neck a bit to see STILLIRISE.
EPODE was an unknown to me but nice lesson for today.
All in all, a nice Saturday run.

Anonymous 2:43 PM  

For Anonymous: Your insulting message isn'i appreciated. I'm 83, have authored 13 published books, and the only version of the word I'm familiar with is r-i-g-a-m-a-r-o-l-e.

egsforbreakfast 2:47 PM  

@Nancy. It's the Texas River Song. Beautiful!

Dr Random 3:11 PM  

Cool—that is a great tool! Of course, appearances in print is different from those in cyberspace (which in many cases have no copy editors), since in this case my only question was which spelling was more commonly used among the general population, but that's a great tool to know about. Learning all kinds of things today!

Gary Jugert 3:16 PM  

@pabloinnh 8:06 AM
I wonder at who fielded the more awkward questions back in the day: "So, uh, Joe, your wife was impregnated by god?" or "So, inn keeper, what were you thinking? I can have that pregnant lady stay in the barn; it'll be fine?"

Dr Random 3:22 PM  

@okanaganer, I also note that the two lines are closest to each other right around the time I was born. Not that I was reading anything in the first years of the 80s, but that is somewhat of a consolation for how silly I feel. :)

pabloinnh 3:28 PM  

I can't believe no one has brought up Pecos Bill yet, so I will. He has to be only slightly less famous than Paul Bunyan as a folklore hero, and even has the delightfully named girlfriend Slewfoot Sue. Robin Williams does an epic job of retelling this which I'm sure is out there somewhere--used to have it on a cassette tape but what became of it I have no idea.

Anonymous 3:29 PM  

I rigged several maroles when I was an ENTRY LEVEL recent grad. I found it ILL ADVISED.

Burghman 3:42 PM  

Why do the last 2 definitions of EPODE exist? They’re just expansions of 2 prior definitions with nothing added that alters the earlier definition… seems like some consolidation is in order.

Nancy 3:47 PM  

From the "Seen-one-river-seen-'em-all" Dept:

And with thanks to @egsforbreakfast for identifying the PECOS River song. Only it isn't. The PECOS is mentioned, along with several other rivers, but the river in question is...the BRAZOS! What a truly awful memory I have.

But whatever the river, it is, as @egs says, a beautiful song. For those who've never heard it, I share it here with you.

JT 4:05 PM  

Not an easy Saturday for me, but a satisfying one. SPAWNPOINT / EPODE ALIEN QUEEN ... and can someone please explain "shave" for "manscape"? Is it a play on "landscape"?

Ann Howell 4:14 PM  

Not "easy" per se (I dipped in and out of it for a good while), but any Saturday when I don't have to look anything up feels like a win. So much stuff that wasn't in my wheelhouse, but overall enjoyable!

Burghman 4:17 PM  

I don’t think anyone’s saying that rigmarole doesn’t exist, but count me among those who have only ever seen it in print as rigamarole. Searching for the word to prove that it’s been written isn’t a great way to try to prove that we’re all lying to you.

Burghman 4:20 PM  

Yep - it’s a newish term covering anything a man might do to remove hair from any location on his body (not simply shaving his face). All kinds of nifty new devices on the market to get into nooks and crannies :)

Raymond 5:06 PM  

In the English parliament it's to "cross thec floor" to vote againstv your side by going out of the opposite door. That reallly mixed me up.

Chip Hilton 5:08 PM  

The combo of PSYCH over EtuDE froze me for far too long in spite of it being quite obvious that 3D. wasn’t starting with Yu. Otherwise, workable.

Anonymous 5:17 PM  

“Diet Pepsi” by Addison Rae has been charting for the last 20 weeks, so calling her a “social media star” feels cheap

A 5:19 PM  

You say RIGAMAROLE, Richard Harris says RIGMAROLE.

dgd 5:21 PM  

Bob Mills et al.
Can’t remember what my parents said, but I have only said. rigamarole. Rex may say the one A version is “preferred “ but statements like that are silly when it comes to colloquial expressions. Neither is preferred and both are correct. (As a guess, I would say the 2 a version is more popular at least in spoken language).

Anonymous 5:32 PM  

Gotcha. Thanks!

Anonymous 5:40 PM  

White’s World
We are doing a crossword PUZZLE which has clues not definitions
The clue is “becomes inoperable in a way”. The CLUE hints that this is not a definition. Rusting can make something inoperable. That’s enough for crosswords (part of a range of possibilities) , so the clue is fine. If crosswords had only definitions they would be boring
Shaq certainly was famously connected to the Magic for quite a while. Again this is a clue not a description of his whole career. I thought it was fine

Colin 5:49 PM  

I never do Saturdays. Never. But here we were on the NJ Turnpike on a Saturday for once, and I thought I'd try. And I finished, patting myself on the back! -- Then I see this was considered an "easy" Saturday! Oy.
See you all tomorrow for the usual Sunday fun!

Anonymous 5:54 PM  

My husband and I both laughed very hard at that joke (We also both have 94 year old mothers still hanging in there)

dgd 6:01 PM  

Okanaganer makes a good point. Ngrams reports written usage.
As I said above, my guess is the 2 A version is more popular orally. It’s harder to say the one A version and the easier version usually is more common. That 2 A version is what I always say.

dgd 6:23 PM  

I thought the puzzle was a lot easier than Friday’s. It did help that I remembered the 3 sisters’s last name began with H and the other letters came to me. I didn’t even have to look at the clue for RAE who I don’t know. I thought the puzzle ‘s 2 cross referenced grid spanners were fine. Lots of good clues.

Teedmn 7:13 PM  

That definition lost me at distich!

Anonymous 7:31 PM  

@Bob Mills & friends, yes, another hand up for the two A "rigamarole" - i had no idea there was any other spelling/pronunciation until reading this blog today. [for data collection: i'm 41, grew up in RI, been splitting time between there and the boston area for the past 25 years ish.]

-stephanie.

beverly c 8:31 PM  

@ Nancy - I'm sorry to say I don't know the Texas River song.

@pabloinnh - I love Robin Williams’ story telling. That is one I missed. Slewfoot Sue!

beverly c 8:36 PM  

Thanks!

RooMonster 9:06 PM  

Thirteen? Nice! I have one! And it only took me *looks at watch* 54 years to come out of the ole brain. 😁

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Anonymous 9:11 PM  

Written usage is all that matters here

kitshef 10:11 PM  

Good to see I'm not the only one confused. Meichler 9:47 says S is winter, Anon 2:14 says S is summer.

Anonymous 2:46 PM  

Agree that sine is a type of wave, not a producer of waves.

DaverinoNY 8:41 AM  

Yay: I’ve ALWAYS said “RIGAMAROLE”…so no issues for me and the first word in the grid!

Nay: Had CST instead of CDT…stupid time change! WHY, oh Lord, WHY are we still doing this? 🤔

Fun Saturday…VERY easy…almost like a Wednesday. Four of five CHIAs for me!

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