Relative difficulty: Easy-Medium
Theme answers:
- CLOUD THREE (from "cloud nine") (17A: Seventh heaven)
- SWEET FOUR (from "Sweet Sixteen") (25A: March Madness round)
- "WHEN I'M EIGHT" (from "When I'm Sixty-Four") (34A: Beatles hit written by a teenage Paul McCartney)
Tegan and Sara (/ˈtiːɡən, ˈsɛərə/) is a Canadian indie pop duo formed in 1998 in Calgary, Alberta. The band is led by identical twin sisters, Tegan Rain Quin and Sara Keirsten Quin(born September 19, 1980). Both musicians are songwriters and multi-instrumentalists.
The duo has released ten studio albums and earned a Grammy nomination in 2012 for their video album Get Along. Their most recent album, Crybaby, was released on October 21, 2022. Their memoir, High School, was released on September 24, 2019, and in the fall of 2022, the TV series based on the memoir was released on Amazon Freevee.
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The fill was more hit/miss. Those banks of 6s and 7s in the corners are a showcase for some more-interesting-than-usual fill (I'm particularly fond of the GETWET TAILPIPE MATINEE SNAGGED grouping in the SE), but there's a bit of clanking in the short stuff. I will never not find SPOOR unappealing as a word, and in the plural, moreso, especially if you cross it with ODO- (one of your less appealing prefixes ... and prefixes are rarely if ever appealing). I managed to remember OIKOS, and it's fine, I guess, but ODO OIKOS SPOORS just gives off a kind of ... ODOR (59A: Gym bag emanation). OIKOS ODOR ODO ODE HOER ... say that a few times, that'll wake you up. Or ERR EERIE EPEE ERAS, that's fun too. You can take back your SMS and your AMS and your ACTI, your DEE and your DEO, your SNO and SLO. It's all a bit LIMP. I love PHO but I'm not sure I love PHOS, which makes its NYTXW debut here as a soup plural—there are a few earlier (much earlier) appearances of PHOS in the puzzle, but those are all clued [Light: Pref.], except for that one time in 1988 when Maleska clued it as [Old cries of contempt], oof. Thank god *that* clue never reappeared. I would definitely have said "Pho!" to that. Possibly multiple times. So many "PHO!"S would I have uttered!
Notes:
- 21A: Texting format, in brief (SMS) — one of those abbrs. that I know but always slightly misremember. Is it RSS? MSS? HMS? LDS? ... SMH.
- 35D: One making a bed (HOER) — ah, HOERs in beds, that doesn't sound weird or double entendre-y at all! Did you know that HOER is, in fact, Dutch (and Afrikaans) for "whore"? True story.
- 39A: Major league? (ARMY) — I got this easily enough, but it took me a while to fully understand it. My mind just processed "Major league" as just a large group (a metaphorical ARMY) of something. Only later did I realize, "oh, 'Major' is a rank ... in the ARMY ... so the ARMY is the 'league' that the Major ... plays in?" Something like that.
- 47A: Composer ___ Carlo Menotti (GIAN) — I'm used to thinking of "Giancarlo" as one name (to the extent that I think about the name at all, which, admittedly, is only when I happen to be thinking about Giancarlo Esposito). Menotti composed the opera "AMAHL and the Night Visitors," which I have never seen and only know about because of crosswords. Definitely keep an eye out for AMAHL if you've not seen him before (70 NYTXW appearances, 33 in the Modern Era). The opera made its debut on NBC in 1951 ("the first opera specifically composed for television in the United States") and first appeared in the NYTXW in 1953. Let it not be said that Margaret Farrar* was averse to pop culture! A two-year turnaround time, that's not bad.
- 53A: Wilbur, to Fern, in "Charlotte's Web" (PET PIG) — had that first "P" and wrote in PIGLET. Because Wilbur is a PIGLET. Very unfortunate misstep.
- 22D: Insistently unhip (STODGY) — I prefer to think of myself as "delightfully old-fashioned," but if you must namecall... I mainly hear this word now in baking contexts, specifically in the voice of Paul Hollywood or Mary Berry:
@Rex gagS before SETS at 5D. At 12D, Tegan and Sara was (were?) a WOE, but I got POP from crosses and from the group's name it was easy to infer DUO. On the Easy side for a Wednesday.
ReplyDeleteDoes anyone know what happened to Lauren Muse Smith?
ReplyDeleteI miss her deeply.
DeleteYes, I miss her too. Her entries were always a riot, and I would always learn something new.
DeleteI LOVE LMS!!!! Hope she returns soon.
DeleteI have no official basis and no authority whatsoever to say this, but I think LMS is just busy with life and other priorities.
DeleteSo do I
DeleteLOVED her comments! Hope all is well.
DeleteI looked forward to reading her comments every day! Miss her!
DeleteOne of the things I enjoy about doing archived puzzles is turning to the blog and reading her delightful commentary. Wish she would return.
DeleteCute enough theme - mostly well filled. The revealer is awkward as a plural. Rex highlights some of the odd short fill that seems forced due to the grid constraints.
ReplyDeleteThe ROOTS
HOER and SPOORS are big boy crosswardese midweek - I needed the crosses for both. ELI was just talking about DUNE last week.
Pleasant enough Wednesday morning solve.
Mama Hated DIESELs
Solid puzzle. I virtually always complete the puzzle but I rarely find the revealer. Today I found it quickly and I was feeling smug until I saw that it was “easy”. Although I know it is grammar school math , I think it is an example of the point yesterday that different people find puzzles either easy or more difficult based on their sweet spots, e.g., yesterday was literature and today was math. In my case , I wanted to be an astronomer and ended up a lawyer because I had strong language skills and had to count on my fingers at times.
ReplyDeleteVery enjoyable puzzle. Applause, applause. It took longer than usual for a Wednesday, but the trick finally came evident even though SETS didn't seem right for the "comedians" clue. How do comedians collect SETS?
ReplyDeleteROOTS meant "square roots," not something that grows. CLOUDTHREE now made sense.
@Bob Mills
Deletecomedians do not collect SETS. comedians perform SETS, which are a collection of bits/gags/jokes. :)
-stephanie.
My mower is housed in my BARN so I got hung up with BITS 5A & 5D, the T confirmed/confused the whole mess
DeleteI'm not a fan of the s added to the end of 4D. Inuit is already plural. It translates to "the people," and the singular form is Inuk.
ReplyDeletequjanaq!
DeleteGood one! (Had to look it up.)
DeleteBut the word, with the "s", is in common use. NGRAM it and you will find plenty of examples from 1987 on
DeleteAbsolutely agree. I was trying Innuit or Inuuit thinking I was remembering spelling wrong.
DeleteI remember LDS because it’s such a HUMBLE self-description (Church of Latter Day Saints. Yes, I consider myself a Latter Day Saint even though I’m not Mormon. Gives “Chosen People” a run for the money in self-awareness). Think I’d have to drop LSD to join LDS, and I haven’t done that in years!
ReplyDeleteSpeaking of years, thanks for the bday greetings yesterday. Life begins at 70 (at least Social Security payments do for us “I want the maximum benefits even if I won’t break even for 14 years” deferrers. Hey, wasn’t “When I’m 84” a first draft of the Paul song? Since “84 is the new 64” is another self-delusion among us Latter Day, much Latter Day, Saints?
Fun puzzle!
Keep me posted on the whole “life begins at 70” biz because I’m getting close to it! In my case, it might result in hanging up my tennis racket and switching to pickleball. Because, as somebody said the other day, only old peeps play pickleball…
DeleteI have a mug bragging "I survived the sixties...TWICE!" These days I am glad I'm a "childless cat DADDY"!
DeleteI always balk when I encounter an answer which, on the face of it makes no sense (which was easy with the CLOUD nine situation here) - usually steeling myself for a stunt grid full of nonsense. I stuck with it today and the revealer was easy enough and tied it together pretty nicely. So, as far as gimmicks go, this is about the best one can hope for. We’ll have to see what is in store for us tomorrow.
ReplyDeleteI just love your ever positive attitude…
DeleteFrom an ex-South African: The word "hoer" (a whore) in Dutch and Afrikaans is pronounced (more or less) "hoor" and is therefore a heterophone and not a homophone of the two-syllable English word"hoer."
ReplyDeleteThank you for adding that nuance that completes the square (oof) for me today, capping off what OFL started AND addresses my "wait, what, hunh????" from when I once saw Alec Baldwin on something some time call someone that pronounced as you say.
DeleteDoes anyone know what happened to Frantic Sloth? She used to post everyday. Have not seen her in several months.
ReplyDeleteFrantic Sloth hasn’t posted in well over a year. I think that perhaps like LMS, maybe she just had other things that took priority. I miss her too. She was a hoot.
DeleteCaught on after THREE, almost, and suspicions verified by FOUR. I was looking for something with "square" in it for the revealer but got ROOTS instead, fair enough.
ReplyDeleteDidn't know the POPDUO, any "texting format" is a WTF, NENE has a non-crosswordy clue, and if I've run into OIKOS before, I didn't notice. Great word though. Sounds like a cool race of aliens.
Very nice Wednesday indeed, SAD. Such A Delight to start the day off with a winner like this, and thanks for all the fun.
@pablo, OIKOS does sound like a race of aliens! BTW, did you know Menotti wrote an opera about an alien invasion? "Help, Help, the Globolinks!" I’d heard of it but never listened to it. The aliens are represented by “electronic” music and can only be stopped with “human” music. "Unless we keep music in our soul, a hand of steel will clasp our hearts and we shall live by clocks and DIALs instead of air and sun and sea. Make music with your hands, make music with your breath." (Text from the aria of Madame Euterpova, the music teacher) Menotti never followed the atonal crowd, and he took a fair amount of criticism for it.
DeleteI really, unreasonably wanted the theme to extend to the clues, like:
ReplyDelete"forty-ninth heaven" CLOUD THREE
"March madness round before the Elite sixty-four" SWEET FOUR
"Beatles hit written by Paul McCartney when he was 196" WHEN IM SIXTEEN
Loved the theme but agree there was a lot of crosswordese glue today.
INUITS is wrong - it's already plural - in the casual way the NYTXW has of not bothering to research something but just going with it because it fills out the puzzle.
Appreciate the edge you've added to what I learned from @Tannis 6:19 AM. I'm loathe to call "micro-aggression!" instead of focus on a speaker's true intent, but this strikes me as tone-deafness in the lazy way that accounts, IMO, for a lot of "othering."
Delete@kitshef -- Those clue suggestions are wonderful!
DeleteHOKINES? Seriously?
ReplyDeleteTegan and Sara a POP DUO implies that they are playing popular music or are popular. Neither applies. Also, WTF is SPOORS?
ReplyDeletespoor
DeleteTegan and Sara are better known in Canada.
DeleteDidn't love INUITS since as far as I understand it INUIT is actually the plural form of INUK and therefore you shouldn't need the -s tacked on
ReplyDeleteWas very (XX#$@!) frustrated trying come up with a rebus that would fit “sixteen” into four spaces even with CLOUDTHREE staring me in the face. But the crosses finally won out and eventually got to the revealer. OIKOS and ODO were an oy! I’m with @Pablo in suspecting a race of aliens. Fun puzzle.
ReplyDeleteNorth side of medium for me. Was looking for some connection between 7th and 9.
ReplyDeleteTotally agree with Rex. Sufficient cuteness + no themer duds = happy.
ReplyDeleteI may be making this up, but I think I recall a time when Amahl and the Night Visitors was on TV every Christmas season. Ah, yup, every year from 1951 till 1966, and then they made a new version in 1978. But I never watched more than a few minutes of it.
I never knew the word SPOOR until today and I can’t say I’m happy to have learned it.
ReplyDeleteDid anyone else notice that 1 Across kind of fits the theme? ie The square root of 1 is 1
ReplyDeleteYup!
DeleteHey All !
ReplyDeleteDouble OO's abound today. I count 6, with three groups of diagonal OOO's (Hi @TomT). NE is especially O-ey. An O fest.
Interesting puz idea. After getting the first Themer, my first thought was the others would also be times3, but quickly saw it would be whatever the number is times itself. Then got a chuckle out of the Revealer.
Deep cut on FISH clue (Angle), liked the clue for HELLO (name tags). Nice open corners. Only 36 Blockers, and that's with those mini @M&A Jaws. Taking over for @Lewis, there are 17 sets of Doubles, I believe that's on the High End.
Anyway, liked the theme idea. Fill OK, it all works. That's all the ORATE from me this AMS. Har.
Happy Wednesday!
One F
RooMonster
DarrinV
Good job noticing that "tic-tac-toe" OOO, Roo. I make note of odd diagonal things like that--or like a long diagonal string with no vowels or with no consonants.
DeleteI don't think I've seen an explanation for your F-ondness for F's. What's the word?
What does WOE (sometimes WoE) mean?
ReplyDeleteWhat on Earth? When an answer seems to be a reach.
DeleteWhat On Earth
DeleteIn what universe is this anywhere near easy?!? Hardest Wednesday I’ve ever done. I’m sure it doesn’t help that math is about the farthest thing from my wheelhouse possible, as I was looking for root words after the revealer. “Hmm, what’s the word origin for nine? Is there one?”
ReplyDeleteOn top of that, so much that was impossible (for me) to parse: had punS then biTS before SETS; never heard of a SPOOR (spores, sure, but SPOORS??); don’t know OIKOS; how is being TYPE A make you a go getter? Doesn’t that just mean you’re focused and anal about details?
Finally, please someone help me understand HOER. Rex’s explanation didn’t explain anything. Is it a foreign word? Very confused.
You hoe a garden bed. This, you are a hoer (hoe-er).
DeleteWhat a terrific puzzle! With one of the most clever themes and revealers I recall in quite a while. And yes, that is something that a hairstylist would say. They can get away with a lot because they know we need them more than we need our doctors.
ReplyDeleteThe trick didn’t really POP for me at CLOUD but then SWEET FOUR definitely got my attention. A perfectly laid out grid too, from a veteran constructor who clearly knows his business. Thank you Mr. Donaldson, for this fun Wednesday solve.
Just imagine how ancient the age of 64 must have seemed to a teenage Paul McCartney. He is now 82 and still touring - set to kick off in Uruguay on October 1. Wow! There are not many artists of any genre who have had the impact on our musical history that he has.
A *really* nasty puzzle. Usually when I am stumped and look up a word, I get two or three others in the nearby area. I looked up *eight* today, and not one of them was any help at all. *Way* over the top for a Wednesday.
ReplyDeleteTwo HDW* clues today:
ReplyDelete1. This too shall pass, perhaps
2. First item "plumerai-ed" in Alouette
Fun theme--I definitely felt stuck when "nine" wouldn't fit after CLOUD was in place. Began to suspect it was something oddly arcane, especially when I had the closing EE in place.
Then the veil slowly lifted and off we go.
Liked HELLO directly atop ADIOS.
Answers:
1. PHASE (begins with the P in 10A, COPS, moves to the SW--nice 5-letter entry.
2. TETE (T in 24A, ORATE--"je te plumerai la tete," a nice follow-up to yesterday's HDWs* EAU & OUI)
ADIOS
*HDW= Hidden Diagonal Word
@Tom T 9:58 AM
Delete"plumerai-ed" ... LOL
Oh dear, a math theme. That means we'll have math people showing up to say something is wrong. I usually learn from those comments, but more about math people than math concepts. I'll bet the nit will be root versus square root, so I am excited to read the other comments. Don't fail me Number Crunchers.
ReplyDeleteAs one who's been [Insistently unhip] since I was 12, I will say I've been called many names, but never STODGY. Fudge is, overcooked pasta is, but Insistently unhip people are just "right."
TYCOON is on my favorite word list between JALOPY and YACHT.
Propers: 6
Places: 1
Products: 10 (boo)
Partials: 6
Foreignisms: 3
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Gary's Grid Gunk Gauge: 26 of 76 (34%)
Funnyisms: 6 😅 (I am assuming the three theme entries are meant to amuse.)
Tee-Hee: "High" Time. Pump option. HOER in bed. TAIL PIPE. GET WET.
Uniclues:
1 Typical opening of a gangster movie.
2 Scent of a metal rod crushing into your face.
3 Ties a billionaire to a tree. Oh wait, that's mooring.
4 Coy koi aglug.
5 How the Kardashians got famous.
6 Using your Roku to watch Sonny and Cher on Prime Video in your underwear from the La-z-Boy after lunch.
7 Sniffing the elevator after the culprit broke wind.
1 ACT I SHEDS COPS
2 HELLO EPEE ODOR (~)
3 ANCHORS TYCOON
4 CIA FISH GET WET
5 OH LOOK, TAIL PIPE
6 POP DUO MATINEE
7 SPOORS SNAGGED
My Fascinating Crossword Uniclue Keepsake from Last Year: Tuesday Goodwiller. HALF OFF MAMA.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Please make #5 a keepsake to show us next year.
DeleteNice throw-back to the anchor/moor debate! lol
DeleteLiked this theme a lot -- good density, good answers.
ReplyDeleteFar less enamored with the fill. To piggyback on others' comments (and with apologies if I'm trespassing on @Anoa Bob's territory) there were some really bad plurals today -- INUITS, PHOS, AMS, even CEDARS (less egregious, but still not in the language to me). HOER -- really? To be fair, though, the long downs in the NW and SE are good.
As a non-hairstylist, of course I would never volunteer to anyone that YOURROOTS ARESHOWING. But my wife asks me all the time if hers ARESHOWING, so the phrase has certainly passed my lips.
Thank goodness ERAS wasn't clued with Taylor Swift, especially being so close to TOURED.
I could only think of one possible other theme answer: 1980s New Wave band whose biggest hit was "Love Plus One" >> HAIRCUTTEN. It's not perfect because the band's name consists of the numerals and not the written number, but I do like how the clue adheres to both @kitshef's clue suggestions and to @Michael's observation regarding 1-A.
A Wednesday on the challenging side for me, partly because I got square ROOTS mentally snarled with prime numbers....so the reveal was definitely a revelation. Really clever theme!...with amusing examples. I love CLOUD THREE as a level of lukewarm euphoria. Also thought ANCHORS, TYCOON, STODGY, TAILPIPE, SNAGGED were out of the ordinary and fun to write in.
ReplyDeleteDo-overs: fbi before CIA, iams before ALPO, semifinal before SWEET FOUR, HOst before HOER. No idea: POP DUO.
Easy. No erasures and I did not know HOKIES, NENE, and GIAN (I do know Amahl).
ReplyDeleteVery smooth grid with a cute/clever/amusing theme, liked it.
Loved the theme, especially because I happily put in 'final four' the first time through the grid, really proud of myself for knowing a sports clue.
ReplyDeleteFill was good enough to support the terrific theme :)
As always, *very* disappointed in the lack of mathematical maturity exhibited by the constructor when a math theme shows up. The revealer YOUR ROOTS ARE SHOWING clearly suggests that no branch of the complex logarithm has been chosen, but each root is positive! It’s as if the constructor has *no* idea whatsoever about the *basics* of riemann surfaces and analytic continuation (what many consider to be the precursor to sheaf theory!!), as maybe they think there actually *does* exist a holomorphic logarithm on the punctured plane rather than log(z) simply only admitting unrestricted analytic continuation on the punctured plane, which would explain the lack of a branch cut in this puzzle. Indeed, the failure of right-exactness of the sequence of sheaves 0-> {2pi*i} -> Hol -> NonzeroHol -> 0 where the first nonzero map is inclusion and the second is exponentiation should be fresh in the constructor’s mind, as it is a *routine* example in sheaf theory and reinforces that such a logarithm cannot exist…
ReplyDelete…
^^ How was that? Was that up to par for how the annoying math nerds usually write? It’s my first time.
@Anonymous 10:45 AM
DeleteTHIS! I'd say +1, but I might be wrong.
As is so often the case, @Rex’s write-up is better than the puzzle. The square root phrases were clever but the revealer was a let down. ROOTS seems too vague without “square”, and the ROOTS are not just SHOWING, they actually taking the place of the squares. The amount of PPP was insulting - DELTA WALMART ELI ALPO SIRI OIKOS IHOP etc, etc. Someone named their kid NENE?
ReplyDeleteTired fill - EPEE SNO SLO TRE DEO ad nauseam.
Bad plurals - INUITS, SPOORS, PHOS.
OH LOOK at me being all grumpy. Weird, I got up on the same side of the bed as always. So - on the bright side, HELLO sits atop ADIOS. “Angle” stood out as a sneaky devil of a clue. HOER elicited a giggle.
What happened when Wilbur lost the log-rolling match? PET PIG GET WET.
Notable amount of double Os and Es. NOON TOOK LOOK SPOOR ROOTS TYCOON. EERIE THREE SEEME SWEET DEE EPEE MATINEE TEED.
Never heard of the POPDUO. I wonder what it’s like to have an identical twin. I was thinking about that yesterday when I read that Joe Dipinto is survived by an identical twin, John. Hard to imagine that kind of loss. Again, thanks to @burtonkd (who also hadn’t read the blog last month when Nancy told the group of Joe’s passing) for sharing the news.
Only woe, alpha for typea
ReplyDeleteFun otherwise
from Merriam-Webster (online):
ReplyDeleteInuit
noun
In·u·it ˈi-n(y)ü-wət
variants or less commonly Innuit
1
plural Inuit or >Inuits also Innuit or Innuits
a)
: a group of Indigenous peoples of northern Alaska, arctic Canada, and Greenland —used especially for those of the Canadian Arctic and Greenland
NOTE: In Canada, the name Inuit refers to one of three major, legally recognized groups of aboriginal peoples, the other two being the First Nations and the Métis.
see also INUK
b)
: a member of such people
SPOORS a new one on me
ReplyDeleteThere is no such thing as "Inuits." Inuit is the plural of Inuk.
ReplyDeleteIn retrospect, a good theme with an apt revealer. I could see after the first two themers that we were dealing with square roots, but that didn't help me with the McCartney song. I like the Beatles generally, and I liked the song, but I'm not enough of a fan to know who wrote what and how old they were when they wrote it. I forgot it was in theme position, and was thinking it might be WHEN I MEt you. D'oh! And then I misread the clue as referring to 48 and 53 Across, so I put 'roots' in 53-A. It all sorted out eventually, and when I figured out the actual revealer I was impressed.
ReplyDeleteARMY for major league was a stretch too far, in my opinion. Sure, the Army has majors, but where's the league?
Foil and Sabre want to know why they're never the Olympic fencing events in the puzzle (yeah, I know, spelling). And it has been a long time since I last saw a thermostat with a DIAL.
OK, enough straining to be witty, I'll see what everyone else says.
This puzzle made me really excited to see how my San Francisco 'Seveners do this season.
ReplyDeleteMy mother's lame jokes would usually make me say "OMAHA". To which Dad would add "Well PUTSON."
What did the tree say to his fallen companion? YOURROTTSARESHOWING.
Pretty fun, pretty easy. Thanks, Samuel A. Donaldson.
The proper reaponse to "oh Maha" is of course "Ahaaah!" per the Three Stooges.
Deletehttps://youtu.be/X5kqHN3Ksk0?feature=shared
Ooh, que fun (IKEA you not)....And it's all about math...my worse subject in the entire world! YOUR ROOTS ARE SHOWING said no hairstylist to me ever. In the last few years it was more of the OH LOOK, you've got more white hair coming in. Hair is so strange. I wonder why men go bald and most women don't. I do like that the men who have these itty bits of strands in the front and finally decide that a comb- over from ear to ear makes you looks like a STODGY SMU, you finally decide to shave your head. Not everybody has the right looking head, though. If you have a pointy head then I recommend a wig.
ReplyDeleteOK...on to the rest of the puzzle. Some fun words here. If my team were called the HOKIES I might not play. What does that even mean? Fe fie PHOS fun. YO DUDE...Wazzup?
I miss LMS a lot too. But she has a real difficult job at Turning Point in Charlotte, which she has shared with us, plus she lost her father not long ago. And I wouldn't be at all surprised if she drew the short straw in her family, and is the one who has to deal with his estate. She is so obviously competent that she is the one I would have chosen, if I were her Dad.
ReplyDeleteFun breezy puzzle today but have to agree that INUITS is just plain wrong, plus pretty sure no hairdresser would say YOURROOTSARESHOWING…
ReplyDeleteI find it interesting that Rex likes the word SPOOR but can’t abide “moist.” To each their own I guess on the creepy factor.
I do not watch shows where people cook or bake but I Googled “British stodgy” and this was my first hit:
“In British baking, the word "stodgy" is used to describe baked goods that are heavy and solid, difficult to digest, and make you feel full.”
Learn something new every day!
@Anonymous 10:45 AM, if you are going to write something that good, you really ought to sign it!
ReplyDeleteAt one point in my life I read a lot of detective novels, where a frequent scene was for detectives to bring a pack of bloodhounds to a crime scene to see if they could pick up the SPOOR. Ditto for prison escape stories, and Daniel Boone types in the woods. Another of those wheelhouse things.
And I forgot to mention it earlier, but I actually had PEn Pal before PET PIG. I think I mentally mixed up Fern and Charlotte, and figured it was a pun about Wilbur living in a pen.
@I didn't know NENE Leakes either, but I looked her up and she is definitely not a goose. @A, her parents named her Lynnethia, so it's a nickname.
Purina owns Alpo , so to clue “rival” doesn’t seem right.
ReplyDeleteNaticks in the NE, appropriately
ReplyDeleteI'm surprised no one has pointed out the lack of question marks at the themer ends. Isn't that standard when the fill is not literal?
ReplyDeleteI know they were trying to avoid the usual Hawaiian goose clue for 62A, but I believe most of us should try to avoid references to "reality" TV. There are other nenes. The Brazilian soccer player would be a good misdirect. And there's a basketball player with that name.
I wrote a long comment in the late morning which hasn't appeared yet. In the interim I've received an extremely gracious note from Rex. While his note doesn't solve my problems of trying to interact with this awful new format -- a format that I sadly suspect I shall never get used to -- it does fully heal the deep anger I was feeling about his response to me last week.
ReplyDeleteI was planning to come back to the blog anyway because of the lovely and touching messages I've gotten from so many of you -- both on the blog and off the blog. They really have meant a great deal to me. But Rex's email to me this morning makes that return much easier.
I spent a really long time composing my earlier comment this morning. But when it appears, IF it appears, I plan to erase it.
@Nancy, I’m so glad you're back! And also that Michael was gracious. But I honestly think you don't have to interact with the new format (if I can figure a way around it anyone can!). It was basically the same thing @kitshef told you. On Rex’s home page on the right hand side is the “Blog Archive.” It includes today’s date. When I click on it, everything looks the same UNTIL I scroll way down. Then under Rex’s review all the comments are there, with the yellow background, and they are listed chronologically, not as replies.
DeleteYou told @kitshef it didn’t help, but I think you should give it another try. If it doesn’t do what I said, make a note of what does happen and tell us - maybe someone can figure out what the problem is.
Mimi Linehan
@Nancy, I was away from the blog when the new comment form was introduced, and so I missed the first several days' "adjustment" period. When I returned, it didn't take long for me to notice that you weren't posting and to miss your comments. I'm glad you're back!
DeleteYou're back! Color my ROOTS happy. You were definitely missed.
DeleteLong time lurker. I always look for Nancy’s comments. I adore her. Very glad to see that Rex has straightened things out.
DeleteWelcome back.
ReplyDeleteThe NCAA basketball semifinals are the SWEET FOUR? Nah…it’s always, and forever has been (for 40+years at least)… the “Final Four.”
ReplyDelete@Tannis 6:19 am and others are quite right that INUIT is already plural. Sure, some people say INUITS but they're wrong and it's ugly. SPOORS and PHOS are other ugly plurals today.
ReplyDeleteHowever I liked the theme just fine. At first I thought we would get a square root, and a cube root, etc, but I guess that would be quite confusing since the cube root of 64 is... FOUR.
Nancy welcome back! I'm not a fan of this comment form either but it could be worse I guess.
I liked this puzzle, btw. I had gotten only as far as CLOUD THREE, went immediately to take a peek at the revealer clue and saw the word "hairstylist". "I bet it's YOUR ROOTS ARE SHOWING," I said to myself. And it was.
ReplyDelete"Will you still love me when I'm [blank]?" went the song (I think) and I couldn't for the life of me remember what age Paul's question referred to. FIFTY? SIXTY? SEVENTY?
Aha! SIXTY-FOUR! It's all coming back now.
Bet you wish you were SIXTY-FOUR now, Paul. I think you and I are the same age and I know that I do!
To paraphrase (badly) an old orange juice ad: "A day with an @Nancy comment is a day with warm sunshine!"
DeletePurina owns Alpo so clued as “rivals” doesn’t make sense.
ReplyDeleteExcuse me, Yankee fans think about the name Giancarlo every day - Mr. Stanton.
ReplyDeleteCute theme… but phos and Inuits are both poor plurals.
ReplyDeleteMy first thought for 1 Down "Last members of relay teams" was MOORS. Didn't have enough letters for that slot so I guess ANCHORS is close enough.
ReplyDeleteJust a small point but “When I’m 64” was not released as a single (nor were any other songs from Sgt. Pepper) so not sure it can really qualify as a “hit” based on common use in the music industry.
ReplyDeleteRE: 1 Across / 4 Down: We often see folks complaining about the English and Spanish "n" crossing, disguised as the same letter (sorry, don't know how to make the Spanish diacritic on my computer), but to me it's a lot more irritating when a number becomes a letter in a cross. "I," "X", "V," or "L" is either a number or a letter, whether it's being read left-to-right or up-and-down. Make a decision and stick with it!
ReplyDeleteCome back!
ReplyDeletePretty easy for this definitely math deprived guy* who actually found himself chuckling while reading @Anonymous 10:45's comment. (Nicely done!) Loved the theme but found the fill pretty annoying. INUITS? PHOS? Had CLOUDTHREE but couldn't make the connection. Light came on at SWEETFOUR, but not brightly enough. Managed to turn up the dimmer switch at the Paul McCartney clue and moved on to the revealer to check my theory. Nice surprise.
ReplyDelete*When I was in grade ten I left home. I managed to find accomodation but still needed money for food, books, extra school fees, et cetera (I believe that's Latin for LSD and weed) so I took a job as a grill jockey at a fast food restaurant where I toiled from 9 til 2, four nights a week, often getting "home" at about 3 am. Math class was first thing in the morning so I very often did not have the daily assignments done. One day the teacher approached my desk and asked to see my homework.
He: Where's your assignment?
Me: I didn't get it done.
He: Why not?
Me: I had to work late last night and didn't have time.
He: What!?
Me: I didn't get off until almost 3 o'clock in the fucking morning...
That's when he hit me, full force across the side of my head, practically knocking me out of my desk. I wanted to hit him back but, instead, I just collected myself and my books, stood up, looked down at him (he was very short) for a second or two and then turned and left the room.
I've never been in a math classroom since. TMI? Sorry. I've done alright without trig and calculus and the like (I lean heavily on my math nerd friends and relatives) but I often wonder how I would have turned out had I stayed in the game.
Oh goodie....@Nancy is back!
ReplyDelete@Les S More 2:23. Yikes! Your math teacher sounded like a moronic ass. That you showed such restraint from smashing his brains out is to be commended....Don't they have teen labor laws? My first job was selling lemonade when I was about 7. The Cubans don't drink it but I didn't know how to make coke.....Seems to me you've turned out fine!
Thanks, Gill. This me is pretty good but don't you ever wonder if there might have been a different you? A better one? A worse one? A richer or poorer one? I'm old now so I have time to contemplate dumb stuff like that.
DeleteWhat a lovely, sweet thing to say, @Tom T!!!! (4:30) Thank you so much!!
ReplyDelete(Does putting the time of the comment you're referencing on this stupid new Blogger platform help anyone find it?)
@A (Mimi) -- After one failed attempt, I did get to the comment page in yellow that "looks" like the old one. It actually took me longer because I had to expand the page to the right because "Blog Archive" was off my screen. Don't ask. But then I was unable to do the function that I so badly want restored: I was unable to jump to the bottom of the page -- either to the comment box (which isn't a box anymore) nor to the newest comments and scroll up from there. So just like with the new format, you have to scroll down from the top each and every time you want to check the comments.
But thanks for trying @A.
@Nancy, if you are on a computer browser like Firefox (I can't remember if you are), the "End" key should take you to the very bottom of the current page, including the comment form.
DeleteI posted the first comment today asking about Loren Muse Smith. Thanks for all the replies. I think what inspired the question was the news that Nancy left the blog. But she’s back! Great to have you back, Nancy. Really appreciate your wit and writing style.
ReplyDeleteThanks so much for the really nice compliment, Anonymous. But who exactly ARE you?????
Delete@Trina 2:13 - same here, love running across her posts while working backwards thru the archived puzzles!
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ReplyDeleteI sort of copied @M&A (an idol of mine here) on his U fight, which is that of all the vowels, the U is used the least. As I was doing puzzles for a while, I started noticing a lack of the use of the F, as it seems a common enough letter. I can see not seeing Q's, Z's and J's, even X's all that not commonly seen, but for some reason, the dearth of F's stuck out, thus prompting my fight for more F use.
Now I'll get the F out of here...
RooMonster Fight For F's Forevermore! 😁
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DeleteWilber’s relationship to Charlotte was friend. Definitely not pet.
ReplyDeleteI turned 64 last week and that darned song was in my head as an earworm for part of the day. I guess I can only be grateful I haven’t met the alternative yet of growing older.
ReplyDeleteI had a heckuva time figuring out the central top - “mower sheds” ? So THREE WAS ONE OF THE LAST ROOTS I figured out. But I ended up liking the puzzle.
I asked my hair stylist partner if she’d say this to a client and she said ‘lol, kinda’. I used to groan at every math based puzzle (math being my spiciest frenemy), but I liked this one. Maybe it is the hairstylist angle.
ReplyDeleteOK it's settled: CATDOM. Fagliano is a hopeless catman
ReplyDeleteNone of you will ever see it, but I was impressed and happy that so many people spoke up against "Inuits." I came here to see Rex railing against all the plurals, but he seems to have let them get away with that.
ReplyDeleteThere’s a theme answer that nobody noticed. the answer to 1A (ACTI) has the square root of one (which is one) in it. Okay, the number isn’t spelled out like the three other theme answer numbers are but it’s still a square root. So let’s just call is a semi-themer.
ReplyDeleteAlso, the four corner letters spell out SAND which is a place for roots to grow.
Merriam Webster is wrong. Inuit is already plural. The singular form is Inuk. This information comes from the government of Canada:
ReplyDeletehttps://www.noslangues-ourlanguages.gc.ca/en/writing-tips-plus/inuk-inuit#:~:text=Because%20the%20word%20Inuit%20is,working%20to%20preserve%20their%20language.
Cute matheme, and cool, if overlong, revealer. But the fill gave me enough problems; I'd probably have 9.2736ed* it.
ReplyDeleteUnusual plurals abound: INUITS, SPOORS, PHOS. Didn't want to accept any of those. Then the NE: No earthly idea who or what "Tegan and Sara" are...or is. Or were or was. Plus I don't eat yogurt, so 30a was just letter salad.
Like: HELLO above ADIOS. Par.
Wordle birdie.
*Eighty-sixed
Fun puzzle. Extremely easy WedPuz. I thought there would be more hollerings and bellowings about the crossWORD getting mathy again. Anybody's head explode from my plurals??? Hell, I even knew that Kneeknee wasn't pronounced Naynay. Whoever she is. The things you pick up from the zeitgeist.
ReplyDeleteSecond math test in four days for us syndication solvers. (I aced them both)
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