Relative difficulty: Easy
Word of the Day: "THE DAILY" (7D: Popular news podcast since 2017) —
The Daily is a daily news podcast produced by the American newspaper The New York Times, hosted by Michael Barbaro and Sabrina Tavernise. Its weekday episodes are based on the Timesreporting of the day, with interviews of journalists from The New York Times. Episodes typically last 20 to 30 minutes. (wikipedia)
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I kept expecting some bizarre or unfamiliar answer to leap out at me (or not leap out at me, I guess), but the hits just kept coming. I opened with PUPAE / AUTOS after I couldn't put together 1A: Five-star, as a hotel (POSHEST) (not a fan of that clue for that answer at all—there might be several five-star hotels in the area, but only one can be POSHEST—the superlative adjective there felt unwarranted). PUPAE was wrong, of course, but that didn't matter, as I went AUTOS to SERTA to PERVADE and by that point had enough momentum to blow through the rest of the NW and turn PUPAE to PUPAS, no problem. "THE DAILY" stopped me coming out of that corner, but then SPACE CADETS came along with the assist and from there I managed to swing up into the NE and continue my clockwise journey. From that point, it was a light jog around the crossword track, with no real difficulty and only a few unsightly moments awaiting me. ABRA is now and always has been terrible, full letter grade deduction for relying on it in any circumstance, esp. as clued (i.e. a CADABRA-less incantation). Hmm, I'm now in wiktionary looking at other possible meanings of ABRA and while they aren't crossworthy, they are fascinating:
- a narrow mountain or mesa pass
- a wooden boat used as a ferry in Dubai
- maid (Latin)
- creek, inlet, bay (Galician)
- (Latin America) glade, clearing
Bullet points:
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- 16A: Title woman in a 1968 Turtles hit ("ELENORE") — every morning, as I'm selecting videos for this blog, when I leave a video going, Youtube's autoplay algorithm will eventually take me to the Turtles. I don't know how it learned to do this, or why it won't stop. Perhaps because I don't turn them off. Turns out I love them, and they had way more hits than I remember. As for this hit (which has the truly classic lyric "ELENORE, gee I think you're swell / And you really do me well / You're my pride and joy, et cetera"), the one problem is spelling. Still don't have it down. Tried ELEANOR but KNEW that was wrong. ELINORE? Nope. Not sure I'll ever get it at this point. It's like EEYORE and ELSINORE had a baby—a sad Danish donkey named ELENORE, who is swell.
- 22A: Flighty sorts, in two senses (SPACE CADETS) — are non-metaphorical SPACE CADETS real? I've only ever heard the term used disparagingly of (allegedly) ditsy people.
- 10D: Britons and others (CELTS) — this answer and ERNIE (50A: Coach's first name on "Cheers") felt custom-made for me. Got CELTS off the "S" and ERNIE off the "E" and wouldn't have needed a starter letter in either case. The CELTS are part of my (early English literature) teaching regimen (see also RUNE STONE (29D: Inscribed Viking monument)), and I have watched every Coach-containing episode of "Cheers," multiple times, probably, so I can tell you that his full name was ERNIE Pantuso. He was a lovable SPACE CADET. When Nick Colsanto (the actor who played Coach) died in '85, Coach was replaced at the bar by Woody (played by Woody Harrelson).
- 41A: Kitchen concern with an oxymoronic name (FREEZER BURN) — I had the -EEZE- in place and, before looking at the clue, though the answer was going to be SNEEZE GUARD. Then, after looking at the clue, I still thought that, largely because "Kitchen" made me still think of restaurants. But then I couldn't see how SNEEZE GUARD was oxymoronic. And then the RE- of REMAP gave me the "R," which gave me FREEZER BURN, ta da.
- 53D: Novel opening? (NEO) — Never heard of a NEO-novel? That's OK, because that's not what this clue is suggesting. The prefix (i.e. "opening) "NEO" simply means "new" (or "novel").
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Only song I know with "freezer burn" in it: "In the Car" by Barenaked Ladies.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCKGvUs_p0A
Also Nirvana, All Apologies
Deletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWmkuH1k7uA
Rex, thank you for that inane quote from ELENORE — made me chuckle :)
ReplyDeleteY’all should go look at the history of that song — it was written as a parody after Happy Together was a hit and the producers wanted more of the same. The Turtles thought Happy Together was dumb, and thought Elenore would flop. Little did they know.
DeleteDidn't know I needed Cocteau Twins this morning until it happened.
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ReplyDeleteI found it a lot more challenging than @Rex did. I had odd elements here and there, but I just couldn’t get a toehold that I could expand. Sergey and Larry got a workout today.
The NW came relatively easily, but I was thinking something wedding-related at 8A, didn’t know the Turtles hit (I’m older than @Rex), and had no clue at 18A - a biologist I’m not. And so it went through the grid. Not a lot of overwrites today, but a whole lot of WTFs.
@Conrad. Thanks, you made me feel a whole lot better. Really had a tough time getting a good foothold. Not rated easy for me.
ReplyDeleteSame. It felt impenetrable for a lot of it.
DeleteAs a teenager, shortly after “ELENORE” imprinted itself permanently on my memory (the song, that is, not the title, which never registered), I encountered my first Viking RUNESTONE in Heavener, Oklahoma. No kidding. You can look it up.
ReplyDeleteThe Rhone River passes through the Lac Léman not Lake Geneva.
ReplyDeleteLac Leman and Lake Geneva are the same body of water - in French and English.
DeleteI guess it was somewhat easy considering I almost matched my best time, but Saturdays always has a struggle for me. Pile on, jam pack and hayfork definitely seemed clunky, had no idea about the tin mine. Now I have turtles songs stuck in my brain, not a banger but an earworm
ReplyDeleteLearned from SB (Spelling Bee): ALLELES, MEZE/mezze
ReplyDeleteLearned from old xwords: SPACECADETS
Fav entry: DO.NOT.WANT. (Why waste time say lot word when few word do trick?)
Solid Sat. Thanks, Eric!
Rex, you keep saying that Saturdays are getting easier, but isn't it possible that after having completed thousands of puzzles, you are simply getting better at them?
ReplyDeleteAs someone who is revisiting old puzzles in the archive - no. I've done thousands of NYT xwords and the Saturdays from ten years ago are on a completely different level than anything we get nowadays. I'm talking about a 30 min solve then, and a seven minute solve now.
DeleteI can concur, Have been doing Thursdays Fridays and Saturdays from the vault And they are several orders of magnitude more difficult but incredibly satisfying and fun to finish! Highly recommend, Some may even take an hour or two
DeleteBut all well worth it :)
Thanks to OFL for the knowledge drop on NEO - definitely a Saturday-worthy clue on that one. I learned a couple of new words today, such as Imagoes and ALLELES which is cool.
ReplyDeleteThe trivia today seemed tolerable ( I’m sure many people know about URUGUAY winning the tournament, and if not it’s at least something that people have heard of and can discern, for example). RUNESTONE and TINMINE are a little more esoteric, but at least some portion of the solving population has a chance at those. MEZE seems like a Saturday-appropriate representative for the foreign contingent as well.
It may not be very flashy, as Rex pointed out, but it got the job done in a competent, workmanlike way.
I had PUPAE for a while. I also had ELENORA, for the casual "YAS," but other than those two blips, this felt much more like a Friday, not that I'm complaining.
ReplyDeleteI actually came here expecting a bit of a rant about the IMF, but much to my surpirsie, today's blog was politics-free.
It took me a while, but I finished it by trying ENMASSE, even though it didn't make sense, especially crossing with REMAP. Does our brain really REMAP something? i first had "encasse," because 'recap" made more sense than REMAP.
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Except for this cross, and the BANGER/CLEAR cross, I found the puzzle easy.
Not so easy for me. PUPAS would not come to mind and like @Rex did not think the hotel description would be a superlative. In retrospect, TINMINE had the best clue—thought I was in deep PPP on that one. Thought DONOTWANT was too much of a green paint answer—kinda highlighted a lack of humor ion this puzzle, along the reaction of @Conrad. Much more of a challenge for me than for @Rex, well, more than usual.
ReplyDeleteI believe Rex’s criticism regarding lack of engaging long answers is misplaced.
ReplyDeleteSaturday puzzles have long had a different style than their Friday counterparts. While both are usually themeless, a Saturday puzzle traditionally is a more didactic and scholarly affair — it shouldn’t have a whoosh whoosh feel at all.
I agree with Rex that what is lamentable is the dumbing-down of the puzzles as a corpus and the late week puzzles in particular.
since the full name is "The New Orleans Jazz & Heritage Festival” should there have been an “for short” or “informally” on the jazzfest clue?
ReplyDeleteThat's why the clue uses "Big Easy" instead of "New Orleans"
DeleteThat's why the clue uses "Big Easy" instead of "New Orleans" - to signal the colloquial rather than formal moniker.
Delete“The Big Easy” :)
DeleteFound it a little tougher than Rex did, but not much - call it easy-medium. Hand up for PUPAE before PUPAS. Got ALLELES only from crosses. Wanted Don't ask me for DO NOT WANT, but not sure I ever put it in.
ReplyDeleteHad halftimes at 48A - yeah, plural was unlikely there. Pulled it out when it was contraindicated - that 15-letter word must have been in puzzles.
Nicholas Colasanto also directed in television, including a couple of my favorite "Columbo" episodes - "Swan Song," with Johnny Cash, and "Etude in Black," with Myrna Loy, among others.
Agree with Rex, Saturdays are definitely getting easier. Too easy. I’ve been working through the archives, doing just Fridays and Saturdays (2003 now). They were much tougher back in the day. The occasional easy-ish one, but nothing like now, where Saturdays feel like Wednesdays and I can’t even make it through one cup of coffee. ☕️
ReplyDeleteIn sync with OFL on spelling ELENORE wrong, which made the NE the last quadrant to fall, and happy to see him quote my favorite lyric, ending with "et cetera". Har.
ReplyDeleteCouldn't get started in the MW as I kept reading "imagoes", which is an old friend from crosswords past, as "images", so when PUPAS finally showed up I reread the clue and came the dawn, as we say. Come on man.
MEANER made me think of a discussion I was having with a friend who is a psychiatrist and some other folks and we were offering what our antonyms for "nice" might be. Most of us said MEAN, but he said the opposite of "nice" is "real". Too cynical for me.
Some nice long answers in this one. HAYFORKS is a thing but pitchforks are far more common in these parts. I've heard the variety with flat blades referred to as a manure fork.
And OFL could add the command Open! to his ABRA definitions, if he were to include Spanish.
I liked your Saturday just fine, EW. Kind of an Easy Walk in the park, but an enjoyable one. Thanks for all the fun.
Not a farmer but I am aware that pitchforks are generalist tools and hay forks are a specialist tool designed for ..... hay
DeleteMost of this was fine but the SW corner ate me up with a bunch of plausible wrong answers. (There must be a term for that, no?). Belgium for URUGUAY, deliver by for TRAIN TRIP, mocs for UGGS, and more. Total wipe out down there.
ReplyDeleteI had to laugh at the solipsistic cluing on THEDAILY and the reference to it being “popular.” I’m looking forward to THEATHLETIC being clued as “popular sports blog that very smart people spent half a billion dollars to buy.”
ReplyDelete@Anonymous 7:36 : Lac Léman & Lake Geneva are the same thing.
ReplyDeleteThis was an average Saturday for me. The NW was easy to fill but I stumbled badly trying to work my way into the SW. I had to restart at SPEEDER and slowly backfill the SW.
ReplyDeleteDONOTWANT was a roadblock but the rest of the puzzle filled steadily off of FREEZERBURN.
ALLELE is an SB classic and it really helped out in the NW. MEZE is also a word I know from the SB but I forget it's meaning so ironically it didn't help. Didn't slow things down much either as that SE side of the puzzle was easier to fill than the SW.
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It’s rare that I find a Saturday easy and this was no exception, but it I will agree that it’s not nearly as challenging as most. In fact, with no stacks and the longest answer being 11 letters it didn’t seem very Saturday at all. But there were some nice long downs to offset that and nothing at all wrong with the content. Not too many propers and not too much gunk as @Gary J. calls it. A satisfying solve and an enjoyable wrap to this historic week.
ReplyDeleteShocked myself by knowing Coach’s name was ERNIE. Then thought, wait, isn’t that true on “New Girl” too? And then wondered if that’s where I knew it from. Either way, it worked!
ReplyDeleteHated HAYFORKS. Also not a fan of JAMPACK. Do people say that? Like, “Let me just jampack this in here”? I have only heard JAMPACKed.
Coach answers the phone, then asks if anyone knows an Ernie Pantuzzo. Sam says, "That's you, Coach." Coach returns to the phone and says, "Speaking." 😀
DeleteNot so easy for me, but a good Saturday. I believe there may be "space cadets" in real life, if the "Space Force" ever goes anywhere.
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ReplyDeletePretty much the same experience as YesterPuz. Only a few answers scattered about, at least one was wrong (halftimes for ATTHEHALF), and actually said out loud, "Oh, boy, here we go."
But, didn't panic, or try to rush myself, and got an answer off of a cross, then another one, another one, and poof! Puz done in 28 minutes. Amazing how that happens. This to me is the perfect SatPuz. Tough, but gettable, with no cheats.
Another writeover hanging me up a bit, openair for TOPLESS. Couple other writeovers, ivS-RNS, FREsh(something)-FREEZE, BasEPAY-BACKPAY, mutantS-ALLELES.
Corners would've seemed more open if you took away the Blocker twixt ERASE/DUE and IMF/REMAP. Just sayin'.
Good SatPuz, Eric. Got the synapses firing, but not overtaxed. Don't have to REMAP. Har.
Happy Saturday.
Three F's
RooMonster
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My two cents on late week puzzles: The easy puzzles today are about the same as the easy puzzles of yore, but the hard puzzles today are not as tough as the hard puzzles then.
ReplyDeleteAnd where thirty years ago you might have had 25% easy, 50% medium, 25% hard, now we get 60% easy, 30% medium, 10% hard.
As for today's puzzle, MEZE was the toughest thing in the grid, and for a long time I could not get into the SE due to PAYEE/PAYor uncertainty. Had to skip to some of those SE downs (UNSEE, RISES) and work back up.
@snabby FREEZER BURN is also mentioned in Nirvana’s “All Apologies.” A real BANGER?
ReplyDeleteWe have the Space Force, but no separate Space Force Academy. So no literal SPACE CADETs just yet.
Medium for me. NW fell very fast, the rest not so much, typical Saturday. Had to let it sit, then return later. Quite a few rewrites. I liked it.
ReplyDeleteWonderful puzzle. Probably on the easy side, but very enjoyable. Good variety of words, sparkly, 14 longs, only six of those annoying threes.
ReplyDeleteI listen to THEDAILY fairly regularly, if not daily. I hesitated(surely they wouldn’t do that), then smiled at the meta clue. I’m not sure if it was popular in 2017, but it is now:) (Currently #3 for 2024). I think the theme song is a BANGER
ReplyDeleteI did all acrosses first and this felt like it would be a Saturday of old, but the downs and criss-cross made for a rapid, pleasant solve.
Yes, the puzzles are much easier now, and I’m getting better: both can be true.
5 star is the category for the POSHEST hotels - it doesn’t have to be the single poshest hotel in the area for the clue to work.
easy puzzle for me. re pitchfork, apparently there are different types- hayfork being one
ReplyDeletehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pitchfork
A little too hard for me. POSHEST wouldn't have come to mind ever, and crossing PUPAS and THE DAILY ended my hopes. So things started off rough. The clue for BACKPAY is a mess and I don't know ELENORE especially with that spelling, so things stayed bad. Add in BANGER, MEZE, Exigencies, any fur lined shoe on Earth, a river, and an overly specific clue for a music festival every city has every summer and I am failing.
ReplyDeleteStill enjoyed working a tough puzzle for me. Very hunt and peckish. Lots of solid entries.
HAVOC is on my favorite word list between APLOMB and PHONY.
People: 3
Places: 2
Products: 5
Partials: 5
Foreignisms: 1
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Gary's Grid Gunk Gauge: 16 (24%)
Tee-Hee: Hey guys, guys, did you see? Joel sneaked TOPLESS in at (tee hee) the bottom. It's finally warm enough for the boy joggers in Denver to shed their shirts, and honestly, it's not great. I oppose all toplessness in boys and I would run for mayor on that platform alone. I wouldn't know what to do about all the homeless people, except maybe find them homes, and I would support any legislation encouraging everyone to wear name tags ... except for people with poor senses of humor since I will never be friends with them anyway.
@dgd Thanks for your kind words yesterday.
Uniclues:
1 When they give you a court-ordered Lamborghini as an apology for a craptastic work environment.
2 What Turtles do when they rob graves.
3 How I make it through the winter.
4 Remind Spanish-speaking Catholics of the prohibition on birth control.
5 Scofflaw unlikely to be ticketed.
6 Bean bug babies.
7 Extra hard decorative mattress for Norwegians.
8 Result of David criticizing a specific shoe brand as "against human nature."
9 Me without morning coffee.
10 Poems about one with 34 felonies.
11 The haunting memory of a puppy.
12 What you wish you could do prior to becoming lunch.
1 POSHEST BACKPAY
2 UNEARTH ELENORE
3 PILE ON STRUDELS (~)
4 JAM PACK URUGUAY (~)
5 TOPLESS SPEEDER (~)
6 SUBTRACT PUPAS (~)
7 SERTA RUNESTONE®
8 HUME UGGS HAVOC (~)
9 THE DAILY MEANER
10 HEEL ODES (~)
11 KNEW ALPO BRAWL
12 UNSEE POLAR BEAR
My Fascinating Crossword Uniclue Keepsake from Last Year: The collective rapacious proclivity of posers drinking bad beer. IPA CLAN LIBIDO.
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Not easy. Typical Saturday for me. Had a few wrong answers before the right ones, but mostly I just had trouble figuring out what most of the answers could be. TRAIN what? JAM what? RE what? Never heard of ALLELE, or the ELENORE song, or the HUME guy. Finished in 31:09
ReplyDeleteDONOTeven before DONOTWANT
halftimes before ATTHEHALF
Acme before ALPO
RUNESTOmb before RUNESTONE
"For Whom the Bell TOLLS." I remember that. Now what the heck is the title of his other major novel set during wartime? I could not think of "The Sun Also RISES" for the life of me. In went the very wrong TOLLS into 46D, sort of confirmed by the final "S". And therein hangs a tale...
ReplyDeleteBecause of a bad case of Senioritis, I had to cheat in the SE corner. (On coach ERNIE, as it turns out.) If I'd just had RISES, I might not have had to cheat at all.
Well, of course I had Senioritis this morning. I'm a whole year older today than I was yesterday.
My other big hiccup was the exclamation in hospital dramas. "CLAMP!" went in immediately. I was so sure. Back in the day, surgeons shouted "CLAMP!" No one shouted "CLEAR". I haven't watched any hospital dramas in decades and I don't even know what CLEAR means. CLEAR the hallways? CLEAR those arteries? CLEAR those sinuses?
Anyway, I finished with one cheat. There was a vagueness to some of the cluing that I had trouble with. The UNSEE clue (45D) captures that vagueness perfectly. It's CLEAR enough once you've gotten it, but before you get it, it could be just about anything.
Happy Birthday from Prince Edward Island!!!
DeleteHAPPY BIRTHDAY @Nancy!!!
ReplyDeleteHave a great day and an even better year.
Like a RUNESTONE cowboy,
ReplyDeleteRiding out on a sled over unending miles of snow.
Like a RUNESTONE cowboy,
Gettin' cards and letters from Vikings I don't even know.
And POLARBEARS won't leave me alone.
I always loves me a good Glen Campbellsson tribute puzzle, and this has to be the best one of the Fagliano era.
Homer Simpson's devout wish: Don't let me BEANED.
I thought for sure that they served CROUTiNS In salads along the RHiNE. Turns out it's Bacon Bits.
URUGUAY was not only the smallest country to win the World Cup, it was the first. The first Cup was also staged in .........URUGUAY.
When I see a claim like "Popular newscast since 2017". I invariably mentally add something like "on air since 2000."
I'm on the "easy for a Saturday" side.
Seemed like a surprisinly reasonable 66-worder SatPuz, at our house. Kinda straightforward, clue-wise. Only a coupla ?-marker clues, and they were semi-friendly.
ReplyDeletestaff weeject pick: NEO. Had one of them ?-marker clues. Only 6 weeject choices today, btw.
First entry I got: PERVADE. It ergo becomes my fave thing. Also partial to: URUGUAY. JAMPACK. FREEZERBURN. POLARBEAR.
Thanx, Mr. Warren dude. Nice themeless job.
Masked & Anonymo8Us
p.s.
Happy B-day, @Nancy darlin.
sorry, M&A had to do it …
**gruntz**
I really enjoyed this one....POSHEST, yep. Just putting you in first thing made me sing. Swing on over to the east and insert my BACK PAY. I KNEW it was ELENORE but I didn't know how her name might be spelled. The Turtles always had the best music to dance to and that's about all. They came after the Beatles and so why not make up anther animal name.
ReplyDeleteALLELES! I KNEW you as well because I'm pretty sure I became acquainted with you during the OJ Simpson trial. Or maybe it was a Soap Opera? I can't keep up.
Food thins all over the map. STRUDELS, BANGER MEZE CROUTON with a little JAM and a side of SEA WEED. Et voila...FREEZER BURN EN MASSE indeed.
I had several doovers....27D was my biggest. UNDRESSES! URUGUAY saved my bacon. The U gave me a SUB and then I just added the TRACTS. RAH RAH.
I had only one cheat. ELENORE. You were it! I'm a lousy speller. Does that count a a cheat?
Medium for me. NW was very easy, SW was tough and the east side was medium…so medium.
ReplyDeleteDid not know THE DAILY but did recognize MEZE.
Smooth and solid but a tad bland/flat/tame, liked it.
@Nancy (10:46) (1) I wanted TOLLS and had the same difficulty trying to pull RISES out of memory. (2) CLEAR is the exclamation when the medics are using paddles to restart someone’s heart. Everybody get back so you don’t get shocked I guess. (3) And last but not least, Happy Birthday beautiful lady! I hope you have a spectacular day.
ReplyDeleteMedium for me, and fun to solve. Starting out, when "larvae" wouldn't fit for 1D, I tried PUPA(wait for S or E), which suggested POSHEST, and the NW was filled pretty quickly. Moving to the NE, I got my lifeline from other puzzles: ALLELES, like others here, from the Spelling Bee, crossing ARENA ROCK, known to me only from crosswords - enough to let me finish that corner. Moving down the righthand side, it was the reviled HAYFORK that gave me my toehold (I loved it, having grown up in a farm town, but I did wonder if others would have trouble with it). From there, NoLa had to mean JAZZFEST and the entry to the SE, while the gift of FREEZER BURN was also the bridge to the SW. Last square in my clockwise trip: the E of STRUDEL x CLEAR.
ReplyDeleteDo-over: CLamp (hi, @Nancy) before CLEAR. No idea: ELENORE, ERNIE, BANGER.
On the Saturday puzzles getting easier - My favorite kind of Saturday puzzle is one that I have to put aside for a while and then come back to with new eyes - I love the breakthroughs that can happen then. But I can't remember the last time I've had to do that. Granted, I've built up a few decades of solving experience, but I think the Saturday cluing used to be a lot tougher.
OPERA ROCK before ARENA ROCK, which fit perfectly for Queen.
ReplyDelete@Nancy. Pleased as punch to know that you and I share a birthday. Today = 71 for me.
ReplyDeleteSeconding @JC66 in celebration of @Nancy’s ongoing contributions to Crosslandia. As Spock might suggest, “Live long & prosper;” our clan look forward to your next grids!
ReplyDeleteEasy indeed (less than half of my usual glacial solve time). Still, an enjoyable way to start the weekend. Maybe have to see Mary Tobler’s final contribution to Morning Brew for the second cuppa.
I got off to a running start with "mutantS" for those genetic variants, which made it hard to see any of the crosses. CELTS seemed right, but I waited to check some more -- but it had to be POLAR BEAR because Greenland. So those two Ls game me ALLELES, and suddenly I could see BEANED, ALLOT. KNEW (which I had resisted because it doesn't fit the clue), but not ARENA ROCK or YES THANKS. Those needed a lot more.
ReplyDeleteSo that was easily fixed. But I'm not very good on the location of Swiss lakes, to my riviere du jour was RHiNE. That blocked CROUTON, and was confirmed by even more crosses than jiNGle for the catchy tune, so I was really stuck. I had to work my way all around the grid and come back to it.
This puzzle showed me an interesting fact, viz., I'm apparently older than I think I am. When I see a clue for a pop song from 1968, I think I should know it because that was the time I listened to pop music all the time--only it wasn't. The songs I know really well were from the 1950s, I just JAMPACK those two decades together in my memory.
Growing up in a Scandinavian area of Wisconsin, everyone was excited about the RUNESTONE a farmer in Minnesota claimed to have found while plowing. I think by now almost everyone agrees it was a hoax, but there were some diehards.
@Pablo, I have both kinds of forks, but I call the flat-tined one a spading fork; it's good for loosening the soil before you put in a garden. I don't have any hay, but the pitchfork is good for turning the compost pile.
@Bob Mills--the neurons in our brains can form new connections and drop old ones, so that they can take on new functions. Brain scientists call the REMAPping.
@Nancy, Happy Birthday!
@egs
ReplyDeleteMany more for you, too.
TRAIN TRIP is "when"? TRAIN TIME is a when. Can anyone explain? That cost me the SE.
ReplyDeleteElsewhere, I KNEW the Turtles sang Eleanore, so I unsuccessfully searched my brain for their 7-letter woman and lost the NE.
I really, really appreciate all of your good wishes! This blog always feels like such a a close and ongoing community and I am so glad to be a part of it.
ReplyDelete@Egs -- Interesting that we share a birthday, although they say that if you put 70 people in a room, the odds that two of them will have the same birthday are 99.9%. I read the mathematical explanation online and right now* I understand the reasoning perfectly. And there are at least 70 people on this blog, so it makes complete sense.
*Hope I remember it tomorrow. Senioritis and all that.
Maybe it was a wheelhouse thing, but I found that even today's Stumper was easier than usual. What next?
ReplyDeleteHappy Birthdays to @Nancy and @egs. Hope you are sending the Beatles "Birthday" to each other (You say it's your birthday? It's my birthday too yeah.") which is what I do to my granddaughter on our shared birthday. Enjoy!
As an earlier commenter pointed out, it’s Nicholas ColAsanto.
ReplyDeleteOn “Strange New Worlds, Uhura is truly a SPACE CADET.
Now I’m wondering if Rex will complain if “struggliest” shows up in a crossword.
@KMcCloskey - NOLA in the JAZZ FEST clue was the hint for short or informal.
ReplyDeleteHappy birthday @eggs and @Nancy.
APY, APY, VERDE TU JOO (as they sing in my neck of the woods) to two of my favorites....@Nancy and @egs....Enjoy your day.....!
ReplyDeleteHappy Birthday Nancy and egs! I don't share your birthday but I do share Nancy's name. I enjoy your comments every day.
ReplyDeleteOh, btw, people shout "clear" in hospital dramas when they want the others to step away from the patient before they use the defibrillator.
Started in the NW with UNEARTH, PUPAe, SERTA. Got stuck and moved on (will come back to that)
ReplyDeleteSwung to the SW, where I got started with UGGS, URUGUAY, BANGER and everything fell in quickly. Surprised not to hear any grumbling about TRAIN TRIP, which is Not A Thing, nor are car trip or plane trip or boat trip. But road trip is! My brain could not let go of “halftime” so AT THE HALF was very satisfying to work out.
No trouble in the SE corner either. Wrote it UNSEE with no crosses and was happy it panned out. TOPLESS was a fun clue to figure out and made me giggle.
Moved into the NE with ROCK in place and tried danceROCK crossing fat chance (for “Hard pass”). Then with a few crosses tried opErAROCK crossing dontstArT. Finally sorted everything out and got back into the NW with SPACECADETS.
Where I proceeded to enter my favorite wrong answer: a bull in a china shop causing pAniC. Then I was stuck staring several minutes. I didn’t have many blank squares left and my brain was not getting POSHEST, PERVADE (infrequently seen words) or STD, AUTOS (tricky clues). Finally I took out panic and the V in HAVOC unlocked the rest. Easy-medium puzzle with one challenging corner.
Would like more of a challenge on Saturday
ReplyDeleteSubtle?
ReplyDeleteNot quick for me at all; rather slow. AT THE HALF was tricky, but once I saw it I realized people actually say that. It's symmetrical grid counterpart is the leaden DO NOT WANT.
ReplyDelete@egs, love the RUNESTONE cowboy. "Gettin' cards and letters from Vikings I don't even know" is classic.
Hands up for knowing MEZE and ALLELE from Spelling Bee. Speaking of,
[Fri 0; got the long pangram immediately and its shorter cousin much much later! Streak 6.]
The 54A "Excavation site since the Bronze Age" had me scratching my head and thinking "Could you be just a bit more specific?". Is it in Europe? Africa? Asia? Etc. The M in 49D HUME and the N in 42D RHONE suggested some kind of MINE and then the penny dropped. Ocean going sailboats have lots of bronze hardware and fittings on them---bronze is dang near impervious to salt water---and I know it's an alloy composed primarily of copper and, yep, TIN, so TIN MINE it was. Yay!
ReplyDeleteRe the xword dumbing down discussion: There was a time when knowing the major world rivers was a must for serious crossword puzzlers. I just checked over at xwordinfo.com and both the RHONE and its kealoa Rhine were regulars in the NYTXW up until around 2010 when their appearances, along with world rivers in general, began to taper off. I think that was about the time when some solvers, myself included, began to notice a lowering of the bar, so to speak, in the general knowledge needed to solve a typical xword puzzle.
When I first tried xword constructioneering (©M&A) around 2008 I check the NYT description of what a good puzzle should have. It said that a puzzle should challenge a solver's general knowledge of a wide variety of topics like history, geography, science, the arts, etc.
Now The Times have changed. The Submission Guidelines says that a good puzzle should have themes that are "fresh" and fill "should emphasize lively words, well-known names and fresh phrases".
So, yeah, for better or worse, I think these days the NYTXW is meant to appeal to a much wider audience looking for a quick diversion with lots of freshness. The moldy, stale CLIO and ERATO in a LATEEN rigged DHOW on the EUPHRATES through MESOPOTAMIA have sailed off into the sunset. Freshness rules the day.
Getting BEANED was ERNIE Pantuso’s speciality (fittingly in Boston).
ReplyDeleteCheers to Egs and Nancy!
@Nancy and egs - HIPY PAPY BTHUTHDTH THUTHDA BTHUTHDY!
ReplyDeleteHad a morning orchestra committee meeting so I’m here even later than I would be otherwise. (Can’t say “than usual” since I comment so sporadically.) Mostly just wanted to say Happy Birthday to @Nancy and @egs! You share it with composer Mikhail Glinka (1804-57). Here’s his exciting Overture to Ruslan and Ludmilla to help celebrate your day. The video includes pleasant views of Frankfurt am Main.
ReplyDelete@Nancy, I thought of your TOLLS, too, but held off putting it in so no ERASure there.
I used to rarely break into a Saturday puzzle in the NW so it was a relief to get UNEARTH and ERASE right of the bat. Did have to back into POSHEST. Glad I had SPACE CADETS before getting 1A or I’d’ve fallen into the PUPAe trap.
Nice clue for FREEZER BURN.
OTOH, side-eyed the clue for EN MASSE. I know, I know, close enough for crosswords, but…
Fun answers - TOPLESS FETID BANGER HAVOC. Also enjoyed the ARENA ROCK JAZZFEST JAMPACK PILEON.
Thanks, Eric Warren - liked it ALLOT.
@Anoa 2:38 - Informative post (and interesting perspective) today. I imagine it’s tough to know where to draw the line. Personally, for example, I’m cool with deciphering Rhine v.v Rhône or even Seine - which gives me a fighting chance. I do lose interest quickly when the clue is something like “Seat of Anoa County, MD” and its ilk. The question is where does lively and fresh end and arcane begin. And of course, we can put foreign language math problems into their own niche category - neither lively, fresh, or arcane - just unwanted filler (in my opinion).
ReplyDeleteBriefly, BUYER for PAYEE.
ReplyDeleteReal estate transactions have buyers and sellers, as an agent I wanted a deal where the seller's name was Byers and the buyers name was Sellers, common surnames in my neck of the woods. Would create HAVOC!
DeleteI suspect that there is no shortage of super difficult puzzles out there on the Internet for those of you who find these NYT puzzles too easy. And probably free, too, as this group doesn't strike me as having too many "big spenders." For my two cents I like things just the way they are. Besides it makes a geezer like me uber happy when I can work my way through a Friday or a Saturday.
ReplyDeleteFirst ever help-free completed Saturday, so I knew I'd see"Easy"! I wasn't disappointed.
ReplyDeleteOklahoma Viking runes have been deemed modern hoaxes …
ReplyDeleteIt’s turtles all the way down!!
ReplyDeleteHappy birthday to @Nancy and @egs.
ReplyDeleteI always find the conversation about the dumbing down of crosswords and culture in general a bit off putting. There really are tough puzzles being published weekly for free and readily available to those who like that sort of thing.
At the NYTXW, there's a business decision being made. People who want super difficult puzzles are going to come back again tomorrow because they're like moths to a flame. The decisionmakers are perfectly fine enduring the complaints of the "it's too easy" crowd, while simultaneously attracting hundreds of thousands of new subscribers with more accessible offerings. From a business perspective, it's an easy call to make. When you're working in newspapers, a collapsed industry that died several decades back, if easy puzzles help pay the bills, you do it.
Neither culture nor crosswords in general are dummer than they used to be. This particular venue has changed (for the better -- and if you doubt me, go do some of the 1993 puzzles, they're awful by today's standards). If you want different puzzles, maybe take your 15¢ and stop paying for these and go elsewhere. Or change your expectations to match your subscription.
@bigsteve and Gary, just reread my comment to make sure but nowhere did I say that I wanted different puzzles. I don't have to be told to go somewhere else if I wanted different puzzles. I could figure that out for myself, thank you.
ReplyDeleteMy main point was that the NYT puzzle guidelines have changed between 2008 and 2024. The former said that a puzzle should challenge the solver's knowledge and the latter says that the puzzle should be fresh.
My conclusion was: "So, yeah, for better or worse, I think these days the NYTXW is meant to appeal to a much wider audience looking for a quick diversion with lots of freshness."
Don't know how that translates into wanting different puzzles.
@Anoa Bob 7:37 PM
DeleteDidn't intend for my comment to be directed at you specifically. I think we're on the same page. As you pointed out: Times have changed at the Times. For those who want more challenge, it's out there.
Happy Birthday, Nancy!
ReplyDeleteIf there are 367 of us on the blog (one more than the number of birthdays), not only is it probable that two of us have the same birthday, two of us MUST have the same birthday. By the pigeonhole principle.
I got about 15-20 clues in before I punted. The cluing sans Wil seems very retro to the early 2000s where the challenge was as much in the obscurity of the answer as it was the crypticness of the clue. Too many names in obscure genres for me. I dont even bother with Sat puzzles any more. Used to love them. Considering cancelling my subscription, especially with most of the other puzzles available for free and many other Xword options now.
ReplyDeleteYes for PUPAe and for thinking, “I know it's not ELEanor but….? And yes to CLamp (hi @Nancy), which was part of my final entry area.
ReplyDeleteSelf-administered pat on the back for getting FREEZER BURN from the clue and the EEZE.
I did some post-solve Google research on garden forks and found that what I thought was a HAYFORK in our toolshed was a pitchfork. We only own it, along with some deformed brooms, because my husband, years ago, bid on a lot at an auction that included various tools. I wonder just how old that fork is. The handle is extremely rough and seems to have seen much use. It still works great if you can avoid splinters.
Thanks Eric Warren for the breezy Saturday puzzle.
@jberg 11:48, the Viking RUNESTONE debate is alive and well in Minnesota. I have visited the museum in Alexandria, MN dedicated to it. Every once in a while the local paper does another article on it. No one is willing to call it truly debunked.
ReplyDeleteI have stood in front of one in the Stockholm suburbs; they do exist.
We’re complaining about “gamifying”… a crossword puzzle?
ReplyDeleteTo those of you sayin “go elsewhere,” this needn’t be an either/or conversation. The puzzles increase in difficulty as the week progresses, so there’s something for everyone—and something to aspire to for newbies. What I mourn is the disappearance of the truly chewy Saturday, which I used to look forward to all week. Too hard for you? Don’t do it…like I don’t do Mon-Wed.
ReplyDeleteThe New York Times puzzle is really just the one we've all agreed to do, And for many years has set the standard, but to me it feels like it's not really there anymore. I do love that they have encouraged a lot more engagement, Which is great for cruciverbalism in general, but maybe it's reached the point where we have to look elsewhere for the chewy saturday of yester year? not to nominate more unpaid work for truly the greatest Blogger of all time in my opinion, @rexparker But I would love If there were a once a week "constructor showcase" or something that Rex could recommend And that we could all do and commiserate! I miss the pain And sweet glory of summiting a good saturday. Or even the agonizing defeat of accepting I wasn't ready for it.
ReplyDeleteLike Rex, I thought the union agreement in 'arrangement following a union agreement' referred to a wedding, but I bit harder than Rex did, and put in POSTNUP. ALLOT and CELTS finally made me pull POSTNUP.
ReplyDeleteThen, just like Azzurro, I had OPERAROCK before ARENAROCK. Made it through the NE, but only after lots of redos.
Had ADAPT for the brain plasticity clue before REMAP, which made the SE difficult until I fixed that...
FREEZERBURN was a gimme, but the puzzle as a whole was hard, as befits Saturday. Posh, posher, POSHEST...I mean, either the place is posh or it isn't. I'm poshitive.
ReplyDeleteAnyhow, a birdie to end the week.
Wordle bogey.
Not the POSHEST of puzzles, nor the way to begin one.
ReplyDeleteOf course I didn't know the name of "Coach" on Cheers - or I couldn't remember, but it all filled in.
Diana, LIW
Loved the radio show Tom Corbett, SPACE CADET growing up in the early 50s which inspired a lifelong passion for science fiction.
ReplyDeleteURUGUAY remains a soccer power having knocked BRAZIL out of the Copa América championship Saturday. Looking forward to a very improbable Canada-Uruguay final. Must admit that the only other thing I really know about this tiny nation relates to the scuttling of the German ship Admiral Graf Spee off Montevideo in 1939 following the Battle of the River Plate, the first major naval battle of World War II which demonstrated that Nazi Germany could be defeated.
Think this was the first reference to David HUME I've seen since having to slog through his A Treatise of Human Nature in college. Hope its the last too!
Had to REMAP/UNSEE CHAOS before HAVOC at 4D, CLAMP before CLEAR at 23D, and BONKED before BEANED at 8D. Otherwise, agree - and I guess I'll PILEON here - this was too easy for a Saturday (though fun to solve).