Relative difficulty: Easy-Medium (more Easy ... but the grid is oversized again today, and the theme is slightly tricky to figure out) (5:25)
- PASSOVER / UNDERGO (18A: Highway crossing / 19A: Fail) ("overpass / go under")
- ORDER IN / OUTLAYS (24A: Sequentially arranged / 28A: Explains in detail) ("in order / lays out")
- HAND OFF / ON LEAVE (54A: Like an impromptu remark / 56A: Keep wearing) ("offhand / leave on")
- PAT DOWN / UPCHARGE (62A: Rehearsed to perfection / 66A: Excite, as a crowd) ("down pat / charge up")
Artie Shaw (born Arthur Jacob Arshawsky; May 23, 1910 – December 30, 2004) was an American clarinetist, composer, bandleader, actor and author of both fiction and non-fiction.
Widely regarded as "one of jazz's finest clarinetists", Shaw led one of the United States' most popular big bands in the late 1930s through the early 1940s. Though he had numerous hit records, he was perhaps best known for his 1938 recording of Cole Porter's "Begin the Beguine." Before the release of "Beguine," Shaw and his fledgling band had languished in relative obscurity for over two years and, after its release, he became a major pop artist within short order. The record eventually became one of the era's defining recordings. Musically restless, Shaw was also an early proponent of what became known much later as Third Stream music, which blended elements of classical and jazz forms and traditions. His music influenced other musicians, such as Monty Norman in England, whose "James Bond Theme" features a vamp possibly influenced by Shaw's 1938 recording of "Nightmare".
Shaw also recorded with small jazz groups drawn from within the ranks of the big bands he led. He served in the U.S. Navy from 1942 to 1944, during which time he led a morale-building band that toured the South Pacific. Following his discharge in 1944, he returned to lead a band through 1945. Following the breakup of that band, he began to focus on other interests and gradually withdrew from the world of being a professional musician and major celebrity, although he remained a force in popular music and jazz before retiring from music completely in 1954.
Some notes:
- 1A: Reality checks? (CAPTCHAS) — These are the internet bots that ask you to prove that you're not one of them (i.e. that you exist in "reality"). Type the character sequence that you see, click on the squares with bicycles in them, that sort of thing.
- 47A: "Unbelievable!," in internet shorthand (SMH) — "shaking my head"; I don't think of this initialism as something warranting an exclamation point (!) in the clue! "Unbelievable!" is OMG. "Unbelievable..." is better for SMH, which denotes more low-key bafflement than astonishment.
- 30D: Where trailers wind up (LAST) — Yikes, what? Not even a "sometimes" or a "might"? You might trail (in a race) and then come from behind and win. Or you might trail the leader for the entire race but wind up coming in second (out of some larger number, i.e. not LAST). And not even a "?" on the clue? Bizarre. Both the hardest and the worst clue in the puzzle.
- 67D: Dog on a cat? (PAW) — "Dog" is slang for (usually a human) "foot." So [Dog on a dog?] would've worked too, but I guess this way is funnier? Opposites attract?
- 69D: Economic fig. (GNP) — a grim kealoa* ... gotta leave the middle letter blank and wait for help from the cross, because GDP works just as well.
- 70D: End of days? (ESS) — Hey, look, another "letteral" clue (where you have to take the clue "literally" and the answer is a "letter"). We had one of these yesterday. I guess the universe does want me to make "letteral" happen. Fine. I give in, universe. (In case it wasn't clear, ESS is the last letter (i.e. the "End of") the word "days")
*kealoa = a pair of words (normally short, common answers) that can be clued identically and that share at least one letter in common (in the same position). These are answers you can't just fill in quickly because two or more answers are viable, Even With One or More Letters In Place. From the classic [Mauna ___] KEA/LOA conundrum. See also, e.g. [Heaps] ATON/ALOT, ["Git!"] "SHOO"/"SCAT," etc.
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ReplyDeleteMy experience was very similar to @Rex's. Fairly early on I got the "Oh. You have to reverse words in some of the answers to get them to fit the clues," but it wasn't until I was done that I got the OPPOSITES ATTRACT feature. Awesome!
Not a lot of overwrites, other than a few of OFL's: oMg before SMH (47A) and GdP before GNP (69D). Didn't know the band a-ha or the song (2D), but the answer was easily inferred.
Clever theme, yes, but it was the “Aha” clue that had me bark out loud with laughter.
ReplyDeleteIncredible theme, really. Mainly for the construction, but then noticing the “opposites” being pulled together, I was like Wow. And it took that realization for me to commit to the last two sets of themers. My mind, for some reason was willing to just accept the first two sets, but the bottom sets…Ooph.. I think mainly because I couldn’t let go of hadDOWN and, as @Rex mentioned, ORDERed. So got really slowed at the bottom, until the AHA of the complete meaning of the theme. Then boom, clean everything up and music.
ReplyDeleteOverall, it was a comparatively fast solve, about 6 min under average, and if I had gotten the “complete” theme gimmick earlier, would have likely been a PB. So agree with an easy Thursday. In any event I really liked it, and the theme execution/construction is stellar.
I usually do poorly on Thursday, but I finished this one after finally figuring out CAPTCHAS and using trial-and-error to get the MPEG/MEL cross. It was hard to guess that two females would both have male first names
ReplyDeleteI caught on to the theme about halfway through, and that helped immeasurably.
Well, they’re both Melanies. But Mel B and Mel C (as they are known) is catchier than using their whole names.
DeleteI sensed that something was going on with the answers that were kind of right but the order was messed up. I still didn’t get the exact theme gimmick even after I pounced on the reveal. Agree with OFL that the concept is clever and the construction must have been brutal. However, if you have a theme that even Rex didn’t discern until a post-solve autopsy, we’re back into style over substance as far as the theme goes - great construction, but a buzz-kill for the solving experience.
ReplyDeleteHopefully I (and Rex) are in the minority today and a whole slew of us grasped the theme and had fun running with it - but for me it was pretty much a case of Thursday Deja Vu all over again.
Lovely theme echo in the answer LINEAGE, which, reversed, becomes the totally-different-meaning AGE LINE.
ReplyDeleteThis is why I read you, Rex. It was merely an easy solve with a “kinda cute” theme until you pointed out the elegance of the design. And now, looking it over, I can appreciate how difficult it must have been to construct. A tip of the hat to Mr. Donaldson.
ReplyDeleteI didn't understand the OPPOSITESATTRACT gimmick until I came here. So it didn't enhance my solving pleasure, of which there was very little. Minimum sparkle, several clunky clues, and an inexcusable number of threes (28, 35% of the words).
ReplyDeleteA gimmick more to be admired than to be enjoyed. No thanks.
Puzzle of the week amid three entertaining puzzles. SW corner held me up the longest. Altho (long lost brother of the Musketeer Porthos), and like yesterday's GIF in my post-retirement dotterage, MPEG, took a while.
ReplyDeleteI liked this puzzle. Admirable in it's construction and enjoyable to solve.
ReplyDeleteI’ve always thought SMH meant “smack[ing] my head”… A search reveals a modicum of debate about this online.
ReplyDeleteI also interpreted TRAILERS as the semi truck/tractor trailer variety, in which case they usually come last, unless you have one of those two (or even three!) trailer trucks. So, agreed with OFL on that preposterous clue.
I am in awe. This was unbelievably clever and tricky and beautifully done, from the truly sparkling themers to the uncluttered and ingenious fill. AHA--c'mon... That one deserves an award all by itself. So little junk. No hopelessly obscure tech terms! No gaming terms! No Game of Throne names! No you-know-which-cookie-I-mean! One and only one quibble: 63D should be "diss," not DIS.
ReplyDeleteAnd as is not always the case with a theme this clever, it was a pleasure to solve. I loved every one of the many minutes I had to spend on it. Which brings me to my second awe: Rex's solve time. 5:25? Really? I was well above my Thursday average--took me around 20 minutes of serious brainwork. But I don't care--it's been a long time since a NYT puzzle gave me such pleasure.
Cool theme - oddly filled. The spanning revealer dead center works well and like Rex highlighted the grid building here is astounding. CAPTCHAS and OH BEHAVE fell flat - but I liked EGGOS, GHOSTLY and EPIGRAM.
ReplyDeleteThe plurals in the SE are rough as are most of the internal 3s. TESTEE was a side eye.
Enjoyable Thursday morning solve.
LEAVE ON
You don’t like Austin Powers?
ReplyDeleteLots of fun!
ReplyDeleteSorry, NYT, but if you're going to go with an 8-letter catch phrase for Austin Powers, it has to be YEAH BABY. End of discussion.
ReplyDeleteBut that's the point of not going with it! I haven't seen a single Austin Powers movie and even I knew "yeah baby". Too easy.
DeleteGreat themer, echo @Conrad on solve
ReplyDeleteDidn't appreciate the "attract" part of the solve till I finished - quite a feat for constructor, who is namesake of well-known (to boomers) telejournalist of days gone by. Looking back on completed puzzle, the revealer kicked in and I thought, "Well that's a good one"
I enjoyed this puzzle & admire its dense elegance.
ReplyDeleteMy favorite Thursdays of the year! Of course, there’s only been six so far. Anyway, very clever, very enjoyable. With puzzles like these, I like to solve the "hint" early on, not (only) because it makes things easier, but because it makes me appreciate and utilize the conceit early on. To me, getting that aha! moment while solving is more fun than grasping the clue only after I’ve completed the puzzle.
ReplyDeleteEasy puzzle even though I had fifty or sixty kealoas. Not “‘SEVEN” though. Dropped that sucker in without any crossers at all. π
ReplyDeleteWhat a pro you are, Samuel A.
ReplyDeleteA lovely puzzle could have been made simply focused on answers whose beginning and ends could be reversed, like HAND OFF and OFF HAND. But that wasn’t enough for you. First, as you mention in your notes, those reversed answers had to have completely different meanings. That boosts the quality of the theme.
Then you added the “opposites attract” motif, that is, you found pairs of answers that fulfilled the above condition, AND contained opposite components, AND fulfilled the requirements of symmetry! Wow, and once again, what a pro you are, Samuel A.
That motif, where the answers had to be reversed to fit their clues, AND that the reversals happened because the opposites “attracted” each other, well, that is a spectacular double-whammy theme you made. A delectable riddle to spar with, not to mention that it was woven into a milieu sparked with “Hah!”-inducing clues. For me, pure pleasure.
The art and science of puzzle-making showcased today by a maestro. Thank you for a splendid outing, Samuel!
I’ll allow it.
ReplyDeleteActually had the revealer before I fully understood what was going on and then had to go back and check out the finished grid before achieving the proper Wow! Pretty speedy solve, with only a couple of proper names to slow things down--LIN as clued, and MEG before MEL. Someday I'll remember that one.
ReplyDeleteI'm doing an adult ed course on the Big Band Era right now so ARTIE was a gimme, and I liked seeing Mass AVE, which everyone in Boston says. Puzzle also had AMOR, and the nickname of my best friend in Spain NACHO, so bonus points there.
Just a great job SAD. Simply an Amazing Design. Please accept the coveted Thursdazo! award and thanks for all the fun.
I got the revealer almost right off the bat but couldn’t make sense of it for like forever. I gradually realized the theme answers were all reversed, but I didn’t see all the OVER/UNDER, UP/DOWN pairings till I got here. Brilliant design though it really wasn’t part of my solve.
ReplyDeleteThe NE corner took me the longest, but it was otherwise pretty easy — except for the fact that for quite a while I refused to give up Beta for the video format at 58D. Seems like a perfectly reasonable answer.
Please explain “aha” as an answer. Jim
ReplyDeleteAha is the name of the band that sang Take On Me. So it’s a pun on the actual answer, as in, “One might say “Aha!” when they remember the name of the band that sang Take On Me was Aha.”
DeleteHey All !
ReplyDeleteQuite the feat of construction. Wide open corners, including Themers in each one. Really difficult (really) to get any semblance of clean fill. Plus, those large corners (with Themers) have to cross more Themers two rows down! Wow. I might've ended up with something like JESKAZ. Har.
So, not only are the Themers opposites, ala ON/OFF, but the whole answer is also opposite, ala HANDOFF/OFFHAND (using that because of the F's π), while still being an actual thing! Holy moly. If @LMS was here, she'd explain it much better than me, about what a feat this was.
And, it was still fun to solve. Checks all the boxes. (Pun?) Tres cool.
Saw 16 wide once again, but center Revealer is 16, so fine. Great puz, Samuel!
Four F's
RooMonster
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Had YeahBaby before OhBehave. But sera got me back on track.
ReplyDeleteThanks for the Rexplanation!
ReplyDeleteHm. I walk into Thursday ready for anything. This wasn't what I was braced to handle. When I saw we were just flopping two words to get the prepositions next to each other the jig was up. And unfortunately, the theme wrecks a bunch of the rest of the fill, so not so much fun for me.
ReplyDeleteThe bottom was way more difficult to do than the top. ALTHO punched me in the face in a bad way, but [Dog on a cat] beat me up in a comical way.
Uniclues:
1 Celebrate (reluctantly?) leaving Egypt.
2 Role of the dude in the last room before you get the keys to your new car.
3 Scrupulous sand settlers.
4 Dance moves for dead cowboys.
5 Phrase from a speech celebrating the end of manhood.
1 UNDERGO PASSOVER (~)
2 UPCHARGE PAT DOWN (~)
3 ETHICAL SAHARANS
4 GHOSTLY TWO STEPS
5 AND LAST ... ALPHAS...
My Fascinating Crossword Uniclue Keepsake from Last Year: What to wear on a third date with an unhealthy person. BIG MAC UNDEROOS.
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@Anonymous Jim : an “aha moment” can be when you suddenly remember something. In this case, it is a punny reference to the band A-ha, who had a hit song called Take On Me in the 1980s . It’s a good example why many people think speed solving takes away from the enjoyment of doing crosswords. Most speed solvers will have filled in the answer after “Now I remember “ and not read the rest of the clue.
ReplyDeleteI know SMH is "shaking my head", but early on I read it as "Smack my head" (like @Max W above), which imagery I much prefer.
ReplyDeleteCaught on to the word reversal trick early (with PASS OVER) puzzled at first with the revealer, but only for a moment. The solve was very fast for me for a Thursday. Fun theme!
@Anonymous Pete & Jim: plus the line after “Take On Me” is “Take Me On”…that’s the real stunner in this puzzle!
ReplyDeleteAuthor: Do you know what will happen if I mix some Potassium-laced lab liquids and my favorite red wine while I work on my book, "The Naked Lunch."
ReplyDeleteAssistant: K SERA, Shiraz? , Whatever will be, Will B.
(Sorry. That was more than a bit tortured. I need to work on my REPARTee)
A good Kealoa today at 51D (Jets pass in it). NFL/NHL.
It was certainly a life saver at 68D to have the qualifier "Emmy nominated" before "Issa" in the clue. Otherwise it could have been any of the other Issa's that frequently appear in the puzzle.
I look forward to @Gary J's uniclue for ETHICAL SAHARANS.
Loved this puzzle. A great construction feat with a lot of sparkling cluing. And fun, fun, fun to solve. Thanks, Samuel A. Donaldson.
From the flipping of phrases to the abutting opposites, this was an immensely shagadelic puzzle. Even if it wasn’t created by some CAPTCHA-eluding Fembot! (What’s today’s official M/F ratio of constructors? Whatever it is, Mr. Shortz, DO BETTER!)
ReplyDeleteNow to the big issue - the Powers that be. I remember seeing the TRAILER for the first Austin movie and telling my date, “no thank you!” Wouldn't be seeing that. So SO STUPID!
Years later, watched the trilogy on cable. So SO FUNNY! As it was intentionally so SO STUPID!
The opening scenes of each film were great, but none better than the Meta/Mega introduction to the third. Another 8 letter Austin answer to go along with YEAHBABY and OHBEHAVE (and for me, SOSTUPID) is the involves that elusive thing called MOJO.
MOJOBABY!
Funny as hell, Mr. Myers. And clever as can be, Mr. Donaldson!
Really clever, fun to grapple with, and definitely AHA-worthy when the penny finally dropped on the reversed phrases. For me, that was after I'd gotten the reveal and then went back and pondered the first two pairs. Catching on then helped me get the two remaining ones much more quickly. I'm in awe at how the constructor found phrases that would work in both directions - and fit the grid. Terrific theme, with some bite and wit.
ReplyDeleteMPEG, GNP, SM? make me feel OLD!
ReplyDeleteGlad I could read Rex and commentariat to help me understand the brilliance this SAD grid displays. Without the crutches y’all provided I would have sadly missed Sam’s excellent performance. Off now to check his construction notes that will no doubt leave me SMH!
Lots of suffering, especially in the NW, before I got to the revealer and figured out the trick. Without knowing it, PASSOVER is ungettable and I was wondering what sort of PASS_____ there is to get you across a highway?
ReplyDeleteOf course I didn't know the Austin Powers catchphrase, and CAPTCHAS, as fiendishly clued here, was also a mystery. I was NEVER going to crack the NW!
I was cursing the puzzle early on and thinking I might just throw it against the wall. But once the scales fell from my eyes, I had to admire the trick and all my suffering ended as quickly as it had begun.
Where did I suffer? At every single revealer, that's where. But while I had few crosses to help out in the NW, the area around the revealer wasn't too hard and that eventually came in to my great relief.
I'm always saying that the only good puzzle trick is one where you can't solve unless/until you figure it out. This definitely was that. So I'm left saying: "Be careful what you wish for!"
Just kidding, Sam. An excellent Thursday that gave me a really big and much-needed AHA moment.
Thx, Samuel, for this Thurs. challenge! π
ReplyDeleteJust checking in.
Downs-o in progress.
Easy NW, upper MW.
Unlikely the rest of the puz will follow this trend. lol
Nothing so far that hints at a theme or rebus, except maybe PASSOVER. π€
Onward! π€
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Stella Zawistowski's New Yorker Sun. cryptic was a beaut. One particular clue was worth the price of admission.
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Peace π πΊπ¦ ~ Compassion ~ Tolerance ~ Kindness ~ Freudenfreude & a dap to all π π
An absolute marvel of construction for which I have the greatest admiration but the resulting solve was pretty mundane for a Thursday. The theme was easy to parse even without a revealer and the only challenge I had was with a couple of trivia items. Agree with Rex about the exclamation point in the clue for SMH. I had OMG there for a long time because of it. Happy and thankful for the dearth of proper names - another good sign of a well constructed crossword IMHO.
ReplyDeleteRe "letteral" clues: this gets super obscure, but I actually get a little ping of happiness from these, like recognizing an old friend. Long ago as a baby medievalist I got submerged into the work William of Ockham, who produced a heckuvalot more thinking and writing than that one thing every one knows about. Some of that stuff is pretty tough going, but also fascinating in terms of the almost computer-like functioning of the guy's brain. He was probably a master of the ancient "Houses of memory" technique for memorizing vast amounts of material--whole books sometimes. Anyway, one of his greatest works was his Summa Logicae, as he lived in a time when assembling ALL the knowledge on a subject was a way to make your name for the history books. And as he builds up the foundations, he gets into deep questions of how referentiality works in language and thought, and makes a series of distinctions, referred to as the Logic of Terms (dry enough for you yet? Duns Scotus also worked on this stuff and that's where the term Dunce comes from, b/c later Enlightenment philosophers found it so utterly dull and pointless. They were wrong!)
ReplyDeleteAnd in the Logic of Terms, he points out that some words or terms can refer to things out in the world, the way the word "horse" usually just links a language-sound with a certain kind of animal, but they can also have a "second intention" where the thing being referred to is a mental abstraction, including the the term itself. He labels these different forms of reference "first intention" and "second intention" respectively. So f'instance, "Look honey, there's a horse in the field!" is first intention, but "'horse' is a noun" is an example of t'other thing.
Or f'rinstnace, "end of days" referring to the letter at the end of the term "days." Second intention!
It's not just a crossword clue trick, it's a thing! I dunno why I get such a kick out of this whenever I see it but I do. Pure medievalist nerdism I guess. It's a much more common feature of cryptic crosswords--I almost want to claim that the whole genre depends on it--because you have to shift mental gears at the level of referentiality itself, and it's easy enough to do but not how we're using language 90% of the time.
Anyway, "letteralism" is probably a better handle for it than "terms of second intention," but that's what it is! Thank you Ockham!
Hey, wish I had something more substantial to add to the commentary except more admiration for the construction of this puzzle and its relative lack of junk. Took me a while to get the reversal trick, and never did get the “attraction” factor until reading @Rex. Maybe needed another cup of coffee. An AHA to remember.
ReplyDeleteA day to truly admire, not just Rex's ability to explain a complex theme, but to explain it with elegance!
ReplyDeleteAnd a great puzzle, even if I got tripped up by the MEL/ALTHO crossing box. Brain just couldn't parse it and too lazy to run the alphabet.
I'm getting lazy. I read the revealer, saw that I had to flip some entries, but didn't bother to think about what was opposite about them, or why the clue specified "4 pairs" of answers rather than 8 answers. If I had, I probably would have figured it out, but I didn't and didn't.
ReplyDeleteI guess the clue for 39-D is aa "second intention," whereas the other theatrical clue, for 54-D, is "first intention." Good to have a name for it, thanks, @DrBB!
My experience echoed Rex's completely, although he describes it much better than I possibly could.
ReplyDeleteNot knowing all that much about freeway terminology I had written “overpass” for 18A at my initial run through. Initial run through also gave me enough letters to get the reveal. Second pass showed COP at 1D … starting P let me try PASSOVER and the U from FLUBUG gave the nudge to over/under. From there I was looking for the opposites & ‘flipped phrases’ which helped (me) immensely.
ReplyDeleteA rare (very VERY rare) day when the theme is clearer to me than @Rex!
Wait, SMH DOESN’T mean Shit My Heinie!? (Also my reaction when someone takes the last Heineken from my fridge…)
ReplyDeleteReally need to learn these initialisms better!
This had to be my fastest Thursday ever - just flew through it.
ReplyDeleteSo obviously I loved it. Thank you, Sam :)
One more to the "Didn't fully understand the theme till I came here" pile. Pretty good solve, a bit faster than average, but slower than I've been recently. Loved the AHA clue - gotta use that next time I design a cryptic. Got stuck with GDP before GNP, and REPART is just a blech, but pretty smooth and enjoyable experience otherwise.
ReplyDeleteLaughed out loud at the AHA clue
ReplyDeleteMedium-tough for me mostly because I needed three tries in the NW to get the airer right and two tries to get the Mass. right. The rest of the puzzle was on the easy side. It also took me a fair amount of staring at the finished grid to grok what was going on (hi @Rex et. al.), so no help from the theme.
ReplyDeleteMe too for oMg before SMH.
Twisty and clever, liked it.
I interpreted the answer to 30D (where TRAILERS end up => LAST) as referring to MOVIE trailers, usually an advertisement for an upcoming film.
ReplyDeleteI didn't find this easy - the NW and SE were closed off. Once I got FARES, NEAT and SERA but couldn't find a highway crossing from the PA of COP and AHA, I was worried I was going to leave that whole section unfinished but finally had an AHA on CAPTCHAS, whew. The SE presented fewer problems.
ReplyDeleteAnd I didn't get the enjoyment of seeing the opposites being attracted - instead I was grumpily thinking that there were 8 pairs of answers (since each theme answer has two words), not 4 so the reveal clue was wrong. Rex set me straight on that one and I now see what is opposite about them, very nice.
Had to laugh when 54D was HEATH and not ACT something or other and then ACT IV showed up at 39D.
Thanks, Samuel Donaldson, nice Thursday puzzle!
I thought I had the theme totally figured out at 18 across, but like so many of you I didn't totally get the "attract" feature until coming here. Ingenious!
ReplyDeleteActually at first I thought there would be an extra feature where you could substitute the opposite and it makes a valid phrase... like UNDERPASS. Not quite.
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Always super-great to see Sam Donaldson back runnin the rodeo. He makes cool puzs, like this one.
ReplyDeleteSuperb revealer idea, and the themers obey that revealer rule, to the max. Well done, Sam Don dude.
staff weeject pick: SMH . About the only no-know in the puz, beyond LIN, at our house. Sooo, the fillins weren't Shakin M&e Hup, much. Fairly easy solvequest for a ThursPuz, IM&AO.
Nice weeject stacks, in the NW & SE.
There were lotsa (=28) them weejects, today. Aided somewhat by an 81-worder + 16x15 puzgrid. Mosta the longball answers dwelted in the attic or the basement, except for that revealer.
fave stuff: GHOSTLY. FLUBUG. BINGO. IFONLY. CAPTCHAS & clue. Clues for ENGINES, WAL, PRE, PAW, etc. Many, many humorous/clever clues. Well double-done, Sam Don dude. Fun stuff to decode.
REPART … har
HUMORGOOD BADNOT, Mr. Donaldson dude. [Can kinda see why U passed, on a GOOD/BAD themer combo.] Come again, real soon.
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@ DrBB, the best thing about today's puzzle was that it brought us your delightful exposition of "letteralism" vis-Γ -vis "terms of second intention." I just love it when puzzle wordplay triggers this sort of arcane reflection. Delightful! Seriously. Thanks for sharing.
ReplyDeleteThought June was LGBT Pride month--two months a year?
ReplyDeleteI wondered about that, too. One month for celebrating and one for remembering, I suppose.
DeleteAt the POC (plural of convenience) Committee meeting I was going OFF ON how several entries, including one themer OUTLAY/LAYOUT, got letter count boosted by the convenient ESS when one member shouted "OH BEHAVE" and told me I OTTO sit DOWN AND shut UP. Another added that in the service of such a splendid puzzle as this, a POC here and there isn't a flaw, it's simply a feature. IF ONLY I had realized the TRUTH of that before opening my big mouth. I withdrew my complaint and joined the other members in giving high praise for this very fine puzzle.
ReplyDeleteSeems like I'll be preaching to the CHOIR here but I had lots of AMOR for this puzzle. Took a bit to chip away at and most of the theme answered were filled in by the downs but then an 'AHA!' (second of the puzzle!), BINGO, and I was able to TWO-STEP my way to the finish.
ReplyDeleteDowns-only success! :)
ReplyDeleteRelatively easy jaunt.
Got the theme at PASS OVER / UNDERGO, which was a major assist in the solve.
Only iffy spot was SMH, which I know I've seen a number of times, but for some reason has failed to take hold.
Had a bonafide malapop with DOwn (as I had SEND & BINGO) before OFF, but took it OUT when UP wouldn't fit as it's OPPOSITE.
Watched 'A MAN CALLED OTTO' on Apple TV+; also audiobooked the original translation, 'A Man Called Uve' by Fredrik Backman. Have the Swedish movie version TEE'd up on Tubi.
Fun OUTing; loved it! :)
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Peace π πΊπ¦ ~ Compassion ~ Tolerance ~ Kindness ~ Freudenfreude & a dap to all π π
My experience was like Rex described his, altho I assume much longer. Was about to give up and check Spice Girls names when I noticed I had entered Sent instead of SEND which resulted in _andoff instead of _antoff. Then the light went on and I reversed the words mentally.
ReplyDeleteAnother WOW jumping out of my Jack in the Box Pia mater. Four in a row now.
ReplyDeleteThursdays can make me feel incredibly inadequate and so I blank. I did at this one. I finished and sat on it. I got up and drank my Peet's, sat down again and stared. I was going to figure this out, damn it!
I did,
That PASSOVER answer was bugging me. It's an OVERPASS!...So what am I missing? UNDERGO also had me wringing my hands. When you fail (19A) you don't UNDER GO. OH wow....you GO UNDER. What an incredible light bulb moment.
HAND OFF and ON LEAVE....You also hit my wow button. And so it went.
The fill all around the theme answers were pretty easy to get. I initially filled in the required answers as a themeless. Then the stare fest followed by delight.
By the way...If you haven't already watched it, "A Man Called OTTO" is a lovely movie. I believe it's streaming on Netflix....It'll restore your faith in mankind.
A "trailer" that isn't last is a movie trailer, which comes BEFORE the movie starts, so yes, that clue should have had a qualifier.
ReplyDeleteI’m very new to crosswords (and love this blog to help me as I scramble to make up for lost time), and this one marks a particular growth moment for me. I got to the revealer (having already got “passover” and “undergo” with much confusion), immediately saw what was happening, and used it to figure out the other theme answers (“hmm…if this ends in an ‘n,’ it might be ‘down,’ and then the other one would need to start with ‘up’…” etc.). Thus it was fun and exciting, and made this very green newb (or is it ‘noob’? I know Rex has discussed the difference) feel like she is starting to grow up. What a joy. Thank you, Samuel A. Donaldson.
ReplyDeleteBut really I’m just commenting to voice my enthusiastic approval of Rex’s new coining of “letteral.” Yes, definitely solidify that one.
Got to a complete standstill by overthinking the theme… what with PASS and GO also being kind of opposite (as in „I‘ll give it a pass“ vs. „I‘ll give it a go“) I thought the „outer“ parts of the theme answers also have to be opposites. Killed me. Anyone else had the same problem?
ReplyDelete100% agree with @Rex today - and all of you who joined the throng of “wow, what an elegant construction with a real Aha! moment.” I kept looking for a rebus opportunity or something complicated to make it a “Thursday worthy” solve.
ReplyDeleteMy goodness was I wrong! My sincere apologies to Will Shortz and staff for all the less than flattering thoughts I was having throughout the solve. I was moving through, pretty happy with the fill, but wondering why we were not getting a Thursday tussle.
Well, after all was said and done and I finished, got my Aha, actually said “Wow!” aloud, and am thrilled with this Thursday. All hail Mr. Donaldson!
Love love loved this puzzle! Great theme which once understood made the rest of the puzzle a
ReplyDeleteRelative breeze. Congratulations to the constructor. Well done!
I thought of truck trailers or camper trailers, not the (substantially meaner) trailers in a race!
ReplyDeleteAndrew’s post made me think of Mojo Nixon, who passed away suddenly at age 67 yesterday. RIP funny man
ReplyDelete@Darien Steve: June is LGBT Pride month. The clue referenced October, which is LGBT History month. Yet unmentioned as far as I remember is LGBT Appreciation month, which is January.
ReplyDeleteFLUBUG?! Outrageous. You either have the flu or you have "a bug," there's no such thing as the "flu bug."
ReplyDeleteI'm here for letteral!
ReplyDeleteLoved this, and I DID get the full theme early on and filled in all the "opposites," which made this come together quickly, even before the pasta water boiled. Very enjoyable puzzle.
ReplyDeleteExactly what a Thursday should be. Hard until you get the twist, then mostly easy.
ReplyDeleteHANDOFF TEE w/ NFL is a touchDOWN 54A 51D
ReplyDeleteTime for "kealoa" to claim its spot on the FAQ vocabulary list
ReplyDeleteFantastic theme. Really, really bad fill. CAPTCHAS, APB, TSA, SMH, TESTEE, AVE, LIN, ALTHO, DIS, WAL, PAW (ridiculously clued). A theme that sacrifices the fill to this extent is not worth pursuing.
ReplyDeleteGot the revealer early, then revisited the north. Yes, reversing the phrase parts made much more sense with the clues, so the opposites, originally situated far west & far east, "attracted" each other toward the center. While I grokked it, the concept was murky at best. But then, on Thursday murk is supposed to arrive.
ReplyDeleteThose long stacks in the corners are indeed impressive. Well done; birdie.
Wordle eagle!!
ALPHA’S LAST ACT
ReplyDeleteOFF AND ON I UNDERGO
AMOR SO OPPOSITE I wonder,
I LEAVE A HAND IN place, AND OH,
I check for TESTEEs there DOWN UNDER.
--- PAT HEATH
@kitshef speaks the TRUTH: "Exactly what a Thursday should be. Hard until you get the twist, then mostly easy".
ReplyDeleteBeing from the great frozen north, naturally had NHL (Winnipeg) before NFL (New York) for the Jets.
Early overthinking: had 58A & 59A (MEL and OLD) and concluded the theme had something to do with the 3 blank squares in-between being LOW resulting in the synonyms MELLOW and OLD. Solving the reveal brought an AHA moment of enlightenment.
Seems like I'm in a distinct minority but I thought the clue (Split hairs again?) for REPART was quite clever. Presume anyone doing it is engaging in REPARTEE?
Loved the puzzle. And I loved the WAL mart answer. It made me letterally laugh. But can you imagine the howling and gnashing of teeth, and REPARTing of hair if the answer had been KAY?!?!
ReplyDeleteHey - one of those rare Thursdays when the theme actually helped with the answers. Yeah!
ReplyDeleteI wasn't sure of SMH (what is that - must look up) and MEL, but they worked.
Happy Thursday All!
Diana, LIW
Got it after a little back AND forth, OH, that wasn't one of the OPPOSITES.
ReplyDeleteWordle birdie.
I was so surprised by all the people who found this easy. I thought it was so hard. After my first pass, I had nothing filled in. I finally got three words, and then after a while figured out that overpass could be reversed and give me some useful down letters. And then I looked into the pairs, and then I got the revealer, and then it all filled in. And then I was so surprised that I was able to finish it. That's my favourite scenario for a gimmick.
ReplyDeleteI was so wed to Mobile, Ala for 61A that even after I hesitantly filled in REPART, I had to run the alphabet to figure out what I thought was going to be some dogsledding term, or something to do with leading a dog on a leash. I didn't even understand "ALP HAS" until the app told me I was done and I realized it was ALPHAS.
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