Relative difficulty: Challenging
Word of the Day: DAIYA (20A: Big name in vegan cheese) —
Daiya Foods Inc. is a Canada-based dairy-alternative food company located in Burnaby, British Columbia. The company was established in 2008 by Andre Kroecher and Greg Blake. Daiya's original products are cheese analogues made from coconut oil and tapioca flour that are known for their cheese-like consistency and melting properties. They contain no animal products or soy, lactose, wheat, barley, gluten, or nuts.
Daiya is sold in natural and conventional food stores in many countries including Canada, the US, the UK, Australia, Mexico, and Hong Kong. Its products are featured on restaurant menus and in packaged food products made by Amy's Kitchen and Turtle Island Foods. Daiya has won many awards for its products, including the 2009 Veggie Award for Product of the Year. In 2011, BC Business magazine named Daiya one of the 20 most innovative companies in British Columbia.
In July 2017, Otsuka Pharmaceutical agreed to acquire 100 percent of Daiya Foods for $405 million. (wikipedia)
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- The "Bed" in 18A: Bed cover is not a thing you sleep in but a flower bed (SOIL)
- The "break" in 23A: Big break is not an opportunity but a figurative rift or SCHISM
- The "Profession" in 28A: Profession in a telenovela is not an occupation but a professing of feeling, namely "I love you" ("TE AMO")
- The "Knock" in 33A: Knock hard does not mean "rap, as on a door," but "criticize," i.e. PAN.
- The "tables" in 3D: Parts of tables could obviously mean anything "tables" could mean (here, not surfaces you eat on but charts) (ROWS)
- The "Scummy" in 41D: Scummy locales is not a metaphorical "gross" or "dirty" but a literal "possessing an actual, physical scum," namely pond scum (PONDS)
- The "Setting" in 31D: Setting for most Laker home games: Abbr. is not a locale but a time setting, namely Pacific Standard Time (PST)
- The "Stream" in 4D: Stream interrupters actually did seem like it wanted to do with media streaming, but already by that point every clue word seemed like a grenade, so I assumed water might be involved (it's not: the answer is ADS)
This doesn't cover all the tough clues, just the clues that are tough in this one particular way. There's still the proper nouns you might not know—MACAU, LEONA, DAIYA, and Misselthwaite MANOR all seem like things that might cause solvers to faceplant (I wasn't totally sure about those first two, totally forgot DAIYA despite seeing it in grocery aisles a bunch, and had no idea about the MANOR, so just inferred it). This is all to say that I would've liked this better on a Saturday. Still, though, the grid does have wonderful longer marquee answers, all of them perfectly colloquial: "HOW DO YOU DO IT?" "BACK SO SOON?" "THANK ME LATER" "I'M KIDDING!" and "OR SO IT SEEMS..." And the quality of the fill is smooth throughout. It's possible to find the cluing irksome today, but it's very hard to find fault with the grid.
[29A: Rama is one, in Arthur C. Clarke's sci-fi novel "Rendezvous With Rama"]
The CYA / CNET cross seems very slightly iffy to me. I knew both, and certainly you see CNET in the NYTXW fairly regularly (this is the fourth time this year, fifteenth time in the 2020s). But in neither case is "C" being used as a regular-ASS letter in a regular-ASS word, and since "C" is an abbr. in both directions (representing "See" and "Computer," respectively), and both answers are digital-age answers, it's possible someone opts for the wrong letter there. Also, a couple of these "?" clues feel very forced. [Make it up?] is RISE? So you (I) make it ... to a standing position? From a seated / fallen position? Huh. OK. [Little bit of make-up?] refers to the "make-up" of ... well, anything? (ATOM). Sigh, alright. But 54A: Cloverleaf cluster? as INNS, oof. I know these establishments actually call themselves "INNS" sometimes (Days Inn, Hampton Inn), but you wouldn't look at a "cluster" of motels off near the freeway exit and go "let's stay at one of those INNS." "INNS" is a quaint word belonging to bed & breakfasts in Vermont, or Mary & Joseph (or ... not Mary & Joseph, technically, I guess. Mary & Joseph Times!). The clusters of buildings near cloverleafs are motels. Maybe hotels. INNS, bah. I saw right through that "Cloverleaf" misdirection and still couldn't make anything work. CARS was my only four-letter guess. (Note, [Cloverleaf cluster?] is a defensible clue, I just hate its guts)
MACAU is "the East" as in "the Far East," not, like, Atlantic City (32A: Locale dubbed the "Las Vegas of the East"). REHASHING is a [Meeting extender] ... somehow? I really hated this clue, and had no idea what the answer was until I had almost all the crosses. Absolutely thwarted my movement out of that upper section and into the middle of the grid. First to make REHASHING into a noun (?) and then to make it so awkward and vague. Boo. Especially for a long answer, boo. Good thing there were so many other good answers to make up for it.
Hopefully you got through this one with no CHEATS. Here are some more Holiday Pet Pics! THANK ME LATER! We got five cats and one lone pupper today, sadly sitting under his Christmas tree waiting for Santa to bring him treats. Let's start with pupper, as he needs the most love:
[SOMEBODY PET ARROW RIGHT NOW (I'm looking at you, John :)] |
[Thanks, Stacy] |
[Thanks, Myles] |
ReplyDeleteFound it just a tad easier than @Rex did, but still plenty challenging. Not too many overwrites; mostly I spent my time puzzling over the misdirections.
etc before TMI at 28D
boOt before SHOE at 51A. I have got to spend more time in casinos.
Wanted 52A to have something to do with a REboot instead of RESETS
DAIYA (20A) was a WOE, as were LEONA Lewis (44A) and CYA (45A)
I think they allow way too much obscure casino lingo into these puzzles.
DeleteCouldn’t do this one today.. got nowhere :(
DeleteGot it done without cheating, thanks to trial-and-error at the CYA/CNET cross ( still don't get CYA for "ta-ta"). Felt good to finish a Friday puzzle before breakfast.
ReplyDeleteAs I said, the “C” stands for “See,” so “See ya,” which is a slangy goodbye, like “ta-ta” ~RP
DeleteFinally one that I found challenging, but a bit easier than Rex (rarity). Love the pet pics
ReplyDeleteHad some of the same issues as others, but made it through. I had Bible before Torah. SYL before CYA. ETC before TMI. had a hard time trying to figure out how the letter W could be spelled with three letters. My brain needed a few extra moments to hit the Greek alphabet. All in all I enjoyed the puzzle. Challenging for me.
ReplyDeleteAnyone who sits in a lot of required meetings knows that a tiresome, tedious REHASHING of an oft-repeated topic is very much “a thing”.
ReplyDeleteStill don’t like ASS and ARSE in my puzzle but that is a losing battle for me…
Was no one else bothered by the flat-out WRONG answers? "Exactly how you see me / AS I AM" - so everyone sees everyone else exactly as they are? PIANO TUNERs work on "key notes" but not "keynotes" (unless they're also giving a speech). Dante and Ferrante (especially) could be in any Italian lit class, nothing specific to AP. I actually welcome all the misdirection clues and didn't have much trouble with them, but WOW I want to give up on NYT when multiple errors make it through...
ReplyDeleteSorry, it would seem to me that you are closer to flat out wrong than the authors or editors.
DeleteKeynote as a speech or main idea is a derivation from the musical usage. For example, in Collins dictionary online it even comes in as usage "1" before the "speech" related meanings.
I'm more sympathetic with your dissatisfaction with "as i am," but if we dive into the difference between what the eye literally sees (the shapes and colors) vs the interpretational overlays that give meaning to that which is seen, I think the "exactly" is an acceptable way of indicating that distinction.
Besides AP courses, how many other Italian literature or language course titles have two letters before the word Italian?
I thought of ASIAM early but didn't put it in because I didn't think it fot for the clue. Now I'm having a philosophical crisis wondering if I see myself as I am or if what I am is actually what others see. I also wondered about the keynote spelling, but I don't know the ins and outs of piano tuning so I figured it was legit.
DeleteI strongly agree with dissenter on ASIAM.
DeleteI weakly agree with the dissenter on the “keynote” clue for PIANOTUNER. The musical usage is hella obscure; most any normie would not conceive that such a compound construction was possible.
I agree completely and strenuously with OP on APITALIAN. It is not reasonable to assume that usage of literary Italian figures — one medieval, one active — in a class about the Italian language would be anything but incidental. I don’t recall mention of Bodel or Camus in my French courses.
I think the clue on ASIAM just needed quotes, ie "Exactly the way you see me". I didn't understand the puzzle to be saying that everybody sees everybody else with perfect clarity, but rather an assertion that what you see is what you get.
DeleteAlso reminds me of the eggshell principle in law ("take your victim as you find them") and "Take Me or Leave Me" from Rent.
I am very puzzled by the criticism of AS I AM. You see me as I am. The answer makes perfect sense IMO.
DeleteI admit I was looking for candidate at first until I realized it didn’t fit. But it is a Friday and really that would be too easy today. Once I got a few letters I could see the answer. Piano tuner with a tricky clue has appeared before so I said of course when I put it in. I never saw keynote in that sense but now I learned the origin of the political term, a good thing. That is entirely appropriate for a Friday clue.
APITALIAN. I wasn’t sure what was abbreviated, like Ital. and lit. But the N at the bottom told me it was the full word. Eventually AP came to me. All I can say is I never took Italian but I definitely read Camus in my French classes.
Anyway, as someone above said what else could be the 2 letters be!
The central diagonal and the entire band across the middle were average Friday. The NW and SE sections put this into Saturday territory. The downs in the SE were particularly thorny. The C of CYA was my final letter.
ReplyDeleteI tried to start the NW with BIBLE supported by BASS. I quickly had to take them both out but at least I was thinking along the right lines.
I started the puzzle with TMI supported by MACAU and TEAMO. First I tried to make ETC work but it wouldn't
It was nice to see (C?) our old friend " Rendezvous With Rama" again. I never read the book but I like the title.
yd -0, Sa-We -0, I'd point out that I have a 13 day streak going but I'm afraid I'd jinx myself....oops.
I guess I am in the minority but I just don’t see all that much difference between Friday and Saturday. It is not all that rare for me to have more trouble with a Friday. So the puzzle was harder than average for me ( but less than challenging as Rex called it). as Puzzlehoarder felt but the clues seemed fine for Friday.
DeleteI put in BIBLE also but as you said in the right neighborhood.
Everytime I see Brooke Husic's name in the byline I brew another batch of coffee because this sort of misdirection is her calling card - thankfully the difficulty was tolerable this time, meaning I EARNed my clean win... just barely.
ReplyDeleteInsanely hard for a Friday. Very hard for a Saturday. Mostly in a good way.
ReplyDeletePut in AARP; took it out when I could not make any crosses work.
Put in eSt (where ASS goes); took it out when I could not make any crosses work.
Then absolute crickets until I got all the way down to PALS/PONDS, from where I finally got going.
Why I could never go vegan; vegan cheese is awful.
Surprised CYA wasn’t dragged into the ASS/ARSE subtheme.
Absolutely agree with Kitshef that vegan cheese is a reason not to be vegan!
DeleteVery similar experience as OFL with this puppy - I enjoyed the long downs, but boy those in-your-face misdirections were like getting pummeled by a heavyweight sparring partner that I didn’t belong in the ring with (or to use Rex’s analogy, “dodging grenades”.)
ReplyDeletePlus it’s Friday so the gibberish is even more obscure than usual - it’s got to be a challenge to come up with stuff like DAIYA, BBOYS, TEAMO, MACAU, BONITA and CYA on a daily basis. One thing that is certainly not difficult for the NYT crew is counting to three in Spanish, since they get quizzed on it basically every day.
Macau is not in the least obscure. and the reason it is known is because of the casinos. Nothing “gibberishy” about that answer It is also has been in the puzzle fairly often. The rest is a matter of taste. I happen to like Spanish answers and you can’t stand them. I understand that. Most Americans are famously uninterested in foreign languages, but that doesn’t make them gibberish.
DeleteDAIYA was obviously a desperate choice. I didn’t know if either At least the DAI comes from dairy. So that was a help.
BBOY is of African American origin. That doesn’t make it gibberish either. A large part of our slang , present AND past comes from Black Americans.
Ok, i had to play this the wrong way - CHEATS all over the grid.
ReplyDeleteAPITALIAN seemed like a region I never heard of. No knowledge of LEONA Lewis but I figured it couldn’t be Jerry or Sheri. Had MACon, figuring this must be at The Allman Brothers Blues Bar and Casino.
47 down had to be PHee PHI PHo PHum (I smell the ARSE of an Englishman! Eww, TMI, IT IS).
Bigeye = leNs
Table = legs
Sham for SOIL
lASP (but not least) i once again misremember the word HASP.
Obviously, this Friday kicked my 19 across, 47 down. I got the LIONSSHARE of answers wrong, but still enjoyed the effort so much
I can thank the constructors now, not later. IMnotKIDDING!
BEQ and Brooke, HOWDOYOUDOIT?
Perfect summary of my experience with this puzzle and could not have put it nearly as clearly.
DeleteCan someone explain how ASS is an “emphatic suffix”?
ReplyDeleteI used it that way in the write-up but apparently that was too subtle ~RP
Delete“Look at that big-ass dog over there!” “That was a wild-ass game!” “I’m don’t with this stupid-ass puzzle!” Xkcd had a cute comic where he imagines shifting over the hyphen one word in phrases like this, e.g. “big-ass dog” becomes “big ass-dog”, etc.
DeleteHard one but I made it through.
ReplyDeleteThought Macon, Georgia, might be a gambling mecca for a bit.
p.s. I agree with Anon @6:45 that “keynote” crosses the line from evil to inaccurate. I’ll disagree on the others since the clue says the course “may” cover Dante (which is true - and doesn’t preclude other courses from covering the same material) and AS I AM for how other people see you is definitely within the lines on a Friday in my opinion.
ReplyDeleteFirst letter of 54A was the last space I filled in... And really I still don't get the whole cloverleaf motel thing. I was relieved when Rex also commented on it. Definite stretch...
ReplyDeleteI don’t understand the ASS and ARSE clues
ReplyDeleteI absolutely adored this puzzle from beginning to end. The misdirects were tough but felt fair, and I loved every long answer. Great Friday.
ReplyDeleteMy one quibble is with CYA -- feels more like something I would've written while signing a middle school yearbook in the 90s than something that would be used as a text abbreviation. CYA could easily have been clued to mean Cover Your Ass, which would fit the rest of the puzzle nicely.
Yes a missed opportunity there.
DeleteI loved all the misdirection clues (well, almost all), which made this very challenging but fun. I especially loved “profession in a telenovela” for TE AMO, with “little bit of make-up” a close second for ATOM.
ReplyDeleteLots of good long answers, too. BACK SO SOON reminds me of the quote from George S Kaufman upon seeing someone after having been to his farewell party: “Ah, Rex, forgotten but not gone.” (Sorry, Rex, couldn’t remember the name of the person he said it to.)
The SE was the toughest, in part because of CNET and CYA. But more because I was sure it was HARD REBOOT. I must have missed the plural in the clue, and hard reboot sounds much more like a thing than hard reset. But it had to be single USE, so I pulled BOOT. Seeing YETI got me the happy music.
Agree on the cluing. C- How does Will Shortz live with himself?
ReplyDeleteI believe he has a family living with him.
DeleteSoon as I saw Quigley's name I got ready for a battle.
ReplyDeleteSkipped around till I found the SW and solved going up - it worked well eventually but my Saturday time convinced me to reach for another cuppa joe.
Good workout to prep me for upcoming foray into the netherworld of pre Christmas traffic...
Love the pics
Quit about 5 minutes in. I’ve been doing puzzles for about 50 years and this is the first one I’ve just said “fuck it” on in recent memory.
ReplyDeleteTotally agree. I think Quigley tries to be inscrutable. I have never liked him as a constructor. Couldn’t get anywhere with this puzzle, and when I saw his name I knew why.
DeleteFelt like Saturday on a Friday. Hand up for bible / bass as a wrong-foot starter. Finished with the C in CYA, replacing a T that made TNET (a stock symbol that sounded familiar) crossing something that wanted to be TTYL or TTFN or something else that wouldn’t fit.
ReplyDeleteVaguely remember reading “Rendezvous with Rama” back in the day.
I thought it was a great puzzle but really hard. Everything was fair except perhaps CYA, which I had to infer, and maybe INNS.
ReplyDeleteRex is saying "a bunch" quite a bit lately. Has it become cool? Back in my college days, it was definitely uncool.
ReplyDeleteI hated all the things that Rex hated, particularly "Clover leaf cluster?" But for a different reason. Also ALIENSHIP (one of my three cheats.)
I really enjoyed this puzzle, but kind of hate the "Make It Up" clue. That's just such a huge stretch!
ReplyDeleteI think 'make it up' RISE refers to a hill that one climbs, rather than rising from a prone position. I enjoyed the challenge of this one, and didn't care that I Naticked at CNET CYA.... I just don't have the patience to stick in random letters to complete a puzzle. Thanks to Rex for listing all of the misdirection clues at the top of the excellent write up, I knew there were tons, and it's great to see them all in one place. Wonderful puzzle, thanks
ReplyDeleteI think ASS as an emphatic is meant the way used in dumbASS, hardASS, smartASS … as a means of emphasizing just how bad …
ReplyDeleteI liked this one! Two great constructors, so many fun clues. I like the misdirection, makes me think more. I also liked all the Spanish! go team Duolingo. I was a little curious about Preantepenultimate.
ReplyDeletePenultimate is already second to last, which is psi so antepenultimate should be Chi and then pre antepenultimate should be Phi so i agree here but that was confusing. I could not figure out how that worked at first.
But why Greek? Am I missing something?
Deletekeynote: "2. (Music) the note on which a key is based."
ReplyDeleteEasiest BEQ I've ever done. So... semi-challenging instead of near-impossible (for me). Felt difficult but finished in average time. Satisfying solve, enjoyed it thoroughly, almost as much as the pets/captions.
Would have to be a very broad survey course -- eg, an AP course — to include both Dante and Ferrante.
ReplyDeleteThere might be another generational divide on this puzzle, like Wednesday when Rex said "wow, they really don't want anyone under 40 to have any **ing idea what's going on today, do they?" But the opposite.
ReplyDeleteI'm slightly north of 40, but this was a big ol' pile of woosh woosh. Very little resistance, 7 minute time, really great stuff. The few proper nouns I didn't know were easily felled by crosses. Right from UNO DOS TRES down to HARD RESETS, this thing shined.
For a BEQ puzzle, this was easy mode.
What generation are you? Are you saying you’re young? It’s not clear. You may just be anomalous.
DeleteAs for "Make it up" I interpret that more as "rise up the ranks" than to physically rise from sitting or prone position.
ReplyDeleteWhen we have to take a poll and there are multiple different interpretations, the clue is bad
DeleteAlternative clue for CYA: Converse of moon.
ReplyDeleteGood one Liveprof!
DeleteOof, brutal, but happy to have gotten through it with no CHEATS and, in the end, enjoyed all the crazy-ASS clueing and misdirection.
ReplyDeleteHey All !
ReplyDeleteToughie today. Had to Goog good ole OLAF, as having LOST in for FELL was doing it's absolute best to stymie me. Picked through the rest, Aha-ing here and there, and finished error free! Taking it as a win, Google be damned!
Happy Winter Solstice, by the way. Shortest Day of the Year (Sunrise to Sunset...) It gets brighter earlier every day after today!
ASS and ARSE. Banner day. OR SO IT SEEMS. π
FELL crosses RISE. Neat.
Not very verbose today. A welcome respite. Har.
CYA
One F
RooMonster
DarrinV
Beautiful Friday ππ
ReplyDeleteTough, but finished clean, no look-ups. Although, there were a few moments I thought I’d be hitting the web (DAIYA, INNS/PHI). Ended up a couple minutes slower than avg.
ReplyDeleteOverall, enjoyed it. Saw the co-bylines and knew immediately what I was in for. So surprisingly, UNODOSTRES went in pretty easily, which took care of the NW for the most part.
Brain really wanted HOWGgoodisthat for 5d. which obv didn’t fit, but couldn’t get “good” out of my mind, and made the vegan cheese hard to get.
Had rap before PAN, which became part of what i feel is just one cheapest tricks in the book - throwing AP before any HS course. Happens way too often, and it’s never clued in such a way that definitively denotes an “advanced” college credit class.
Had the same thought on “keynote” as others, but M-W does include in definition as a noun related to music.
A “keynote” is a speech. A “key note” is a note on the piano. And no one has ever used this term.
ReplyDeleteapparently on line dictionaries disagree with you. They rely on citations so it has been used.
Delete@Annoymous 7:36 - Adding "ASS" to the end of a word is a casual or street talk way of emphasizing it. Eg: "I went to a wild-ass party last night." or "The party was held at a big-ass mansion."
ReplyDeleteAm shocked as to the reactions to the difficulty here but maybe the short answers fell into my wheelhouse or I was channeling the constructor. Way under my Friday average (but a few mins over my PR). Only the NW corner gave me some friction because I had LOST instead of FELL. Happy Holidays.
ReplyDeleteyou’re a genius. congratulations
DeleteLoved this. Fun and challenging. Perfect length for my morning subway commute. Agree re: REHASHING as a noun - yuck - but zero complaints otherwise. A puzzle full of satisfying “Aha” moments.
ReplyDeleteI found this pretty easy for a Friday. The "keynote" clue was absolutely fair, if not usually used in a tuning context. But a "keynote" (one word) is a concept in music, and the dictionary definition has been given above. I thought it was a cute clue.
ReplyDeleteWhile CYA was a gimme (I use it in my texts), I wasn't so hot on MEMES being the answer for the "riffs on" clue. In my lingo, it means to create and spread memes, which I wouldn't really simply call "riffing" on something. There's a little more to it than that, but I suppose if I squint hard enough I can make those concepts alike enough for a crossword.
As for the preantepenultimate -- that's so weird. I only saw "penultimate" in the clue and tried to fit "wHy" (like "Y" maybe?) there. I quickly figured it was a Greek letter when I got the P above and filled in I, only to read in this blog that the clue was "preantepenultimate." For one of the posters above, you can go back another level to propreantepenultimate; after that I've seen suprapropreantepenultimate and ultrasuprapropreantepenultimate, but I'm not sure there's universal acceptance for that. You can just keep stacking prefixes, I think, like you do with quavers, semiquavers, demisemiquavers, hemidemisemiquavers, etc.
APITALIAN knotted me up briefly. I wanted to put something like "crITALIAN" (Crit lit for Italian literature? I dunno what I was thinking) and making it a portmanteau word, not seeing the obvious AP possibility. I reflexively put in scIENtist for ALIENSHIP when I just had the IEN from the crosses, and that slowed me down a bit, but overall, a very easy and enjoyable puzzle for a Friday for me.
Breezy Friday for me! Right off the bat I saw the hidden capital in "Numbers" in 1A, and, since Pentateuch wouldn't fit, immediately wrote in TORAH. Ditto SOIL, which I filled in with no crosses. And my boyfriend is vegan, so I'm very familiar with (and love!) DAIYA's products.
ReplyDeleteEnded up with a time of 9:33, and I'm always happy when my Fridays come in under 10, so it was a victory in my book! 628 day streak and going strong.
There is no Laker game, Cub game, Dodger game, etc. The team is the Lakers.
ReplyDeleteM&W: "keynote 1 of 2 noun...
ReplyDelete2. music : the first and harmonically fundamental tone of a scale
Pianos are not (generally) tuned relative to any piece of music or any note, so even though the term keynote exists in a musical context, piano tuners are not concerned with any keynote, therefore the clue is bad.
DeleteThe long stuff went in easily, but the short stuff, yeeshk, pretty tough day for me. Oh well, maybe learned something.
ReplyDeleteTee-Hee: ASS and ARSE bumping along together.
Uniclues:
1 Superfund site.
2 When she lost The Map.
3 Requirement of the unlaced.
1 NEWSWORTHY SOIL
2 DORA SCHISM
3 SHOE HARD RESETS
My Fascinating Crossword Uniclue Keepsake from Last Year: Coolest pastor languishing in the worst parish. ADEPT REV ROTS.
¯\_(γ)_/¯
Okay, one more interpretation. I took RISE to mean "get out of bed." As in, "Is he still in bed?" "Yeah, he hasn't made it up yet."
ReplyDeleteI'm a huge fan of BEQ, though his penchant for obscure (to me, anyway) PPP and a fondness for hip hop references that are just never going to be in my wheelhouse can be annoying. Not much of that here. He does like to risk crossing the line, and even over it sometimes--the puzzles he publishes on his own site are known to feature words that are, let's say, not family-friendly, but when he does that they are almost always things people actually say in real life and I appreciate that, even if they won't be appearing in the NYT for that reason. Here he's cutting it pretty fine with ASS as an emphatic modifier, but that is a legit part of colloquial speech (a big-ass part of it you might say), and ARSE/ASS have both been acceptable for a while. I especially like the double-play on CYA as "See ya" but also "Cover your ASS/ARSE," which is the first thing I think of when I see that as an acronym. He's tough but (almost always) fair, and far wittier than about 90% of constructors. He has a kind of "indie" sensibility, which ties in with his musical involvements--used to see him playing around Boston when we lived in Somerville so I love that slant to his puzzling.
ReplyDeleteYep, challenging here, as the clues tended to be at least second-level misdirection, whereas I often find the Saturday Stumper clues to be third or fourth-level misdirection. I wish I could remember the first-letter capital ploy sooner than I always do (looking at you, Numbers).
ReplyDeleteTrouble in Proper Noun City again--LEONA, DAIYA, and OLAF as clued. Misread the number of the clue for "count ins Spanish" and couldn't make "conde" fit. Nice misdirect on TEAMO, which would have been obvious, and slight hesitation on BONITA/O. I'm with the CYA/SYA group too.
A couple of the misdirects went in instantly-SCHISM and PONDS for too, so I could salvage a modicum of pride.
Always enjoy your stuff, BH and BEQ. Been Having a good time with your Best-EVer-Quality puzzles for some time now, and thanks for all the fun.
pabloinnh. With BONITA it took me the b to remember the word, but once I did I figured 90% chance it’s A. Reason. In crosswords, beautiful + gender = feminine form. Built in biases and all that.
Delete(ABOUT yesterday’s puzzle comments re old friends-
Never saw ATLE in a puzzle! Looked it up. Not much. Something to do with a tree.
Wonder if it is related to
ATTLEboro MA. I live near there
A very enjoyable puzzle, and a head-scratcher, but solvable - so Yay!
ReplyDeleteThanks Rex for explaining INNS. I had guessed Cloverleaf Inns were an eastern chain unfamiliar in the Pacific NW. Oops!
Also thanks for the SHOE photo.
Several misdirects I filled with crosses and didn’t notice, like ATOM, so it was fun to read your list and be amazed. I think PONDS, which I did see, was my favorite. Scummy!
A me-too here on BIBLE/BASS. I could see it wasn't working but left it and moved on, traveling in a roughly circular direction and coming back to it at the end.
ReplyDeleteOne thing I noticed a long time ago is that puzzles have a way of kinda training you in the level of misdirection you need to account for. "Telenovela profession" was a good example here. By the time I got to that clue I was pretty confident about dropping TE AMO right in there as the "profession," and that helped me RISE back up to the NW, where I switched BIBLE/BASS to TORAH/TUNA and UNODOSTRES was right at the level the rest of the puzzle was aiming for, so that corner closed the puzzle out very satisfyingly for me.
INNS was probably the low point in my circular progress, aptly positioned at the bottom of the grid. "Well, ok, that's what you clearly want but I'm danged if I'm gonna put it in there until I have to."
Just-right tough and lots of fun to solve. Getting me into the grid was OLAF Scholz, who sent me down the right side and on a clockwise solve. THANK ME LATER? No, I'll thank you now for those great long Downs that were such a help in working out the shorter Acrosses. At the bottom, LEONA and BONITA got me from right side to left side, and I made it to the top again thanks to DOMAIN NAMES and HOW DO YOU DO IT. Last in: TORAH x ADS. I thought some of the misdirects were great (Numbers, bit of make-up) and some beneath the skill of these constructors (CEE, DOT). One do-over: a guess at sYl (see ya later) before CYA.
ReplyDeleteThe Vanity Fair article that @Rex linked to yesterday talked about Friday puzzles being made easier, in order to retain Games subscribers, the reasoning being, "Why would/ should subscribers pay for puzzles they can't solve?" So I was extra-happy for a true Friday work-out.
Since I still have some last minute shopping to do I’ll just say that @kitshef summed it up quite nicely!
ReplyDeleteI will add that I agree with @David Cantor. I’ve read Elena Ferrante’s trilogy but to throw her in with Dante? Yikes.
Correction: There were FOUR Neapolitan novels. Plus, Ferrante is a pseudonym…her name is Anita Raja.
ReplyDeleteWhile "Numbers" is the fourth book of the Hebrew Bible, the fourth book of the Torah is "Bamidbar".
ReplyDeleteThis was definitely one of those faith solves. I couldn't remember Scholz's first name, but I was pretty sure it wasn't Otto, and then lose for 13-D made it even tougher. Fortunately, TONAL was unambiguous, so it had to be FELL crossing OLAF, SOIL, and RuSE for something you make up. That U stayed thee a long time, and when I put in vaMpS instead of MEMES, 11-D was sell hidden. And of course Rama is a spaceSHIP, even though an ALIEN one. But by the time I got down to the SE I was starting to get on the constructors' cluing wavelength, and things started to move. I did spend way too much time counting the prefixes in preantepenultimate to be sure it wasn't the obvious 'vee.' But then I saw PIANO TUNER and HARD RESETS, and realized we were in Greece. (Btw, you do a hard reset on a smartphone, or before that on your Palm Pilot, not on a computer, but close enough.)
ReplyDeleteI loved some of the answers: SNOOTS, PIANO TUNERS, HOW DO YOU DO IT, OR SO IT SEEMS. But CEE and DOT are one too many of that kind of clue in the same puzzle.
All in all, an enjoyable start to the day.
Merriam-Webster: "keynote [2] music : the first and harmonically fundamental tone of a scale"
ReplyDeleteClue was not wrong.
Riveting in its difficulty. And it was the most enjoyable kind of difficulty too. I was braced for a puzzle filled with Naticky pop culture names, since both these constructors, separately, have been known to do that a fair amount. But with the exception of the oddly spelled DAIYA, this puzzle put its challenge in extremely devious clues.
ReplyDeleteSome were brilliant and some, I thought, were not entirely fair.
Brilliant: UNO DOS TRES; CHEATS; TEAMO (fabulous secondary use of the word "profession" and this clue certainly baffled me for, like, forever); ATOM; TMI (The rest of you also had ETC, yes?)
Not entirely fair: RISE (Yes, the clue works if you haven't had enough sleep and you're also hung over and you can barely "make it up" out of bed, but under normal circumstances, to RISE isn't nearly as onerous as the clue implies). And PIANO TUNER. I don't think that there's such a thing as a "keynote" on a piano. You have keys and those keys play notes, but even so...
But my enjoyment was nonetheless palpable. It took a l-o-n-g time to finish this and yet I was still sorry when it was over. Great puzzle.
Medium-tough. I stumbled around a bit on this one. Started with OurS before ONES, eSt before ASS, put in TUNA and erased it because ESt…did not know DIAYA, OLAF (as clued)…forgot that Rama was a space SHIP…stumbled a bit. Bottom half was easier than the top for me.
ReplyDeleteDelightful long downs, liked it.
Good to hear that a lotta U folks found this FriPuz extra-feisty. M&E too.
ReplyDeleteLotsa great entries and demonic clues. Made for a slooow solvequest/exorcism.
some faves: BACKSOSOON. ORSOITSEEMS. PIANOTUNER clue. HOWDOYOUDOIT. THANKMELATER. TMI clue.
staff weeject pick: CYA. Cover Yer ARSE? debut puz entry, btw.
Thanx U later for gangin up on us, Ms. Husic darlin & BEQ dude.
Masked & Anonymo3Us
p.s. fave pic-o-pet: Milo the tree ornament.
**gruntz**
Weirdly this was my fastest Friday ever. The long downs that were relatively easy plus a lot of random facts I happen to know (that if one didn't know I'm not sure how you would figure out..) turn this into a really fun, engaging puzzle with very little fill. (Although I Schwartz needs to officially ban puns about the last letter of a word because it's just intolerable)
ReplyDeleteTwo. Oops.
ReplyDeleteToo almost works though.
Someone here posted this once, I think. How one can use “ass” in English.
ReplyDelete(if link doesn’t work, Google Ismo and ass.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAGcDi0DRtU
Few are the advantages of having a grandchild who has a casein intolerance, but today’s DAIYA was a gimme in our house. And any puzzle with BEQ or BH atop promises a delightful and challenging solve; as a tag team, that byline makes me quiver…..from fear and anticipation in equal parts. Only tricked in the lost/REdo crossing in the northeast quadrant before FELL/RISE fell or rose into view and finally made OLAF, SOIL and TONAL obviously correct. So, an interesting morning that ultimately played easier than we had expected. Now it’s off to Duolingo (TE AMO & UNO DOS TRES gracias). Tengo que estudiar mΓ‘s or something like that. Feliz Navidad mis amigos π
ReplyDeleteAnd thanks to Rex and all sharing their animals for the festive note they have provided.
Those who read my comments regularly (hi, Mom) know that my world revolves around, essentially, making straightforward words and phrases into dumb-ASS misdirects. Ipso facto (an answer I supplied in a bar trivia game last night), this puzzle was so far up my alley that I had to call a cab to get out. Possibly helped by the 3 beers consumed over trivia, I said CYA to this delightful-Ass gem in record Friday time. It certainly didn't hurt that my vegan-ASS daughter asked me to pick up some DAIYA fake cheese at Wholefoods earlier in the day.
ReplyDeleteMy trivia partners (four Millenials) were not very good. You could say those BBOYS were BaBaBad to the Bone. As an example, they were high fiving me for knowing "ipso facto" was the answer to "Latin phrase for by that very fact." And for knowing "Figgy Pudding" (or in today's parlance, Figgy-Ass Pudding) is what is demanded before the carolers will leave in We Wish You a Merry Christmas. YETI must admit, they had to carry the burden on the pop culture side.
What did the defeated earthlings say when demanded by Rama to surrender? Yes your ALIENSHIP.
REHASHING what we've been over, despite a lot of butt-equivalent entries, I loved this filthy-ASS puzzle. Thanks, Brooke Husic and Brendan Emmett Quigley. I'll acrylic finish ya later.
It's so interesting that my experience is often contrary to OP... this was one of my faster Saturdays (almost 12 mins faster than my avg!) But I often struggle with ones that he says are easy. I'm 44. Not sure if that is indicative of anything :P
ReplyDeleteMore medium for me today. Biggest slow-down was thinking the card dealing device was a boOt, not a SHOE.
ReplyDeleteTMI took Too Many Ideas before figuring it out (and MACAU/TEAMO did not help).
My son played the sickly crippled child who recovers his health in a production of The Secret Garden at his high school of the arts, so that helped me manage MANOR.
This seemed like a Saturday; I took 20 minutes but if felt a lot longer. Perhaps BIBLE got me off balance as it seemed soooo obvious.
ReplyDeleteVery happy to see Rendezvous With Rama in a clue. I remember, a warm day in the mid 1970s, sitting down with it on the porch, and reading the entire book through right to the end without so much as looking up. It took a few hours and I have never done that with any other book.
Typeovers: BIGOTS before SNOOTS, and tried hard to make RESTARTS somehow fit in the space of HARD RESETS.
[Spelling Bee: Thu 0. @puzzlehoarder, good luck on your streak. My record is 15 a couple of times this year.]
This was a kick ASS puzzle por moi. Finished it but if Word Checks are considered CHEATS, I'm guilty.
ReplyDeleteI've been to Las Vegas and MACAU and the latter is west, not east of the former. Oh. The East.
I don't think of 18A SOIL as a "Bed cover", as clued. SOIL is the bed, no?
At least there was easy pickings for POC (plural of convenience) hunting. I think it's more of a deMERIT when long entries need some help doing their job as happens with 22D DOMAIN NAME and 52A HARD RESET. The former shares its letter count boosting final S with 53A PEN, forming an ultra helpful two for one POC. See also SOAR/BBOY, CLAN/SNOOT, and POND/INN. The POC committee was divided over giving this grid a POC Assisted rating.
Although I wandered away from the flock long ago, whenever I see 12D in a grid (15 appearances during the Shortz era) I'm reminded of an old, hauntingly beautiful hymn. Here's a YouTube video of Carrie Underwood singing a hauntingly beautiful version of "Just AS I AM".
@egs, I got a kick out of your pub trivia comment! I’ve enjoyed myself a few times at these events with Milennial co-workers that were whip smart. My proudest “callout” in pub trivia was knowing that the car Musk launched in space was playing Space Oddity by Bowie. I had to say “100% sure” before it was written and boy-o were they surprised. @Southside, I plan to use YOU as my phone-a-friend next time I do pub trivia! Sorry…I couldn’t RESIST!
ReplyDeleteThx B & B, for this excellent Fri. challenge! π
ReplyDelete(downs-o); in progress.
With just under 2 hrs in, only the NE is proving stubborn.
The SE is somewhat iffy, tho: have CNET, YETI & ARSE, but a bit apprehensive re: CYA (maybe Cy Young Award). π€
Back to work! π€
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Peace π πΊπ¦ ~ Compassion ~ Tolerance ~ Kindness ~ Freudenfreude & a DAP to all π π
If this just became a cat pic blog I would still read it.
ReplyDeleteGood puzzle.
Tough.
ReplyDeleteCaught on to the NUMBERS game right away, but stuck on BIBLE way too long.
So wanted ROWS for parts of tables from the start, but wouldn't fit the narrative.
Somehow remembered a dealer's tool was a BOOT, not a SHOE.
And so on.
But nevertheless, I persisted.
The long downs ultimately saved me.
Content moderation ruins the blog, especially for we on the left coast who arrive very late.
Unbelievable!
ReplyDeleteThat was my exclamation upon getting the victory music.
Within seconds of getting back into it, and discounting 'lost' for 'was defeated', the whole corner FELL with OR SO IT SEEMS. I already had LIONS SHARE & AS I AM, SO the rest FELL in a flash. I had wanted SO earlier on, but SOIs wasn't gonna work.
I failed to mention in my previous post that DAIYA was another WOE, but the downs seemed so solid. Turned out ok, so now back to the puz to check the clues for the acrosses, esp to learn about DAIYA & CYA. [update: too funny; SO IT SEEMS, DAIYA is a food company with a vegan focus; right up my alley, speaking of which, Burnaby is within easy walking distance for me.]
I'm sure my local market would carry DAIYA products; will have to call them to verify, then put some cheese on my next order.
Td's downs-o was much easier than yd's, coming in at just under 2 hrs.
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Peace π πΊπ¦ ~ Compassion ~ Tolerance ~ Kindness ~ Freudenfreude & a DAP to all π π
@egs-I remember when Trivial Pursuit first came out and I used to play with my son and bis friends, who accused me of "reading all the cards and memorizing the answers". Bittersweet to explain that I had merely been alive for a lot longer.
ReplyDeleteNEWSWORTHY coverage of ASS is a nice touch.
ReplyDeleteThanks Rex, for posting Milo’s pic!
ReplyDeleteCan’t wait to show my wife.
Finished the puzzle after a slow start. I felt better about it after I saw you deemed it challenging.
@bocamp, I was shocked that you completed yesterday's downs only; I'm extra shocked that you succeeded today. Congratulations!
ReplyDeleteAlso re Daiya... I've never heard of it (even though it's made in BC!) but I'm not very observant lately. I'll have to check for it next shopping outing.
I disliked the clue for INNS more than Rex did, if that is possible. When I think of a cloverleaf, I think of the intersection of two expressways. There are no motels clustered around them because there would be no easy access to those motels. One would have to drive a mile or two to the next exit to get off the freeway. Even if one of the highways was not controlled-access, access points are generally kept a distance away from the cloverleaf. I see motels clustered around lesser freeway exits all the time, but not cloverleafs. INNS seemed so counterintuitive that I was actually surprised when it was accepted.
ReplyDeleteLOL, I *thought* I had just completed a Saturday puzzle, then saw your comment that you would have preferred it as a Saturday. Only then did I realize I’d picked up the wrong paper.
ReplyDeleteLOL on me again, I *thought* today was Saturday because I got the day off from work & actually had today’s Friday paper. Nice hard Friday puzzle after all!
ReplyDeleteCriticism of the “?” cluing is fair enough. But so many lovely spot-on longer phrases made me ignore those entirely. Liked it a lot!
ReplyDelete@okanaganer (4:27 PM) π
ReplyDeleteThx, but I think anyone on this blog could do the same if they had the spare time and inclination to do so.
Yd's took 4 hrs, td's 2.
The only day of the week I haven't attempted is Sat. I may give it a go tm, and work it on and off throughout the week.
I've never looked forward to the NYT xwords as much as I now do! :)
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Peace π πΊπ¦ ~ Compassion ~ Tolerance ~ Kindness ~ Freudenfreude & a DAP to all π π
Anoa bob at 1:41 pm. Exactly what I came here to say. The bed is the soil plus what’s growing in it. Soil without anything growing in it doth not a bed make. It’s certainly not the top. That clue bombed.
ReplyDeleteAlso, ASS/ARSE — I don’t think as used here ass equates with arse. The British call a bum an arse but still use ass as a separate word - “silly ass.”
(I’ve always thought it was originally “arse” for “bum” on both sides of the Atlantic. But the “r” was elided in a British accent and some time after 1776 it simply became “ass” on this side of the Atlantic.)
Damn good puzzle for me.
ReplyDelete@dgd-Same thought process with BONITA. Thanks for checking on ATLE, and maybe there are two of us looking for it now.
ReplyDeleteGotta go, The Bruins just started.
Got OLOF and KEATS and gave up after that. Not even ONE additional answer that would fit the rest of the grid came to mind.
ReplyDeleteThanks for the pet pix, Rex! The pets soothed the soul after the insanity of this faux-Saturday puzzle's lunacy.
I know I’m late but just want to share the error that cost me a perfect puzzle. Instead of crossing BBOYS with BEAM, I went with sBOYS and sEAM. Made sense to me: break dancers make their bodies do an S shape and a seam provides support where things are joined. Heckuva place to stumble on this highly challenging (to me) puzzle. Loved it. Far more fun than a breeze.
ReplyDeleteMy main mistake was CYA. I got TYL. Also for some reason put fail instead of fell. Knew it looked wrong but left it there. Not including that I solved it without any hints.
ReplyDeleteMark
As soon as I saw 18A Bed cover, I figured it wasn’t a bed you sleep in. But at first I had MOSS. Also had SPACE ship for 29A first. Thought this puzzle was great! Didn’t cheat! Surprised Rex deemed it challenging. But then again, I rarely finish a Fri or Sat puzzle all in one go.
ReplyDeleteSlightly surprised to see the challenging rate posted. Don't get me wrong: there's plenty of misdirection about, but I expected a medium-challenging score. "Las Vegas of the east:" if there's not enough letters for ATLANTICCITY then it must be MACAU. Not too hard, that one.
ReplyDeleteMini-theme, BTW, with SHOE as clued. And maybe CHEATS.
Gimme KEATS gets things underway. Soon a rendezvous with the ALIENSHIP, and we're off. Lots of "whooshing" today, including some great phrases: BACKSOSOON, ORSOITSEEMS, IMKIDDING, THANKMELATER, HOWDOYOUDOIT. Primo longballs.
LEONA Lewis, DOD. BH & BEQ, oldies but goodies, did not disappoint. Eagle.
Oof! Wordle bogey.
Ha! Started with a great misdirect at 1A (Numbers).
ReplyDeleteThen - who? Who? Who? My constant question regarding names.
Once that got cleared up, it went a bit more swimmingly.
Always love a great phrase - they seem to jump out at me.
Diana, LIW
FELL BACKSOSOON?
ReplyDelete"SOITSEEMS YOU SHARE A MANOR BOYS, BONITA, HOWDOYOUDOIT?"
"THANKs to HARDRESETS and poise,then LATER LEONA says screw IT."
--- OLAF KEATS, AARP
Today I looked at the byline before answering 1a (unlike yesterday when I should have) and saw BEQ involved, so I didn't plop in bible, which is 'right' but wouldn't have been right. Lotsa opps to go in different directions all around the puz. But no write-overs, yay!
ReplyDeleteHOWDOYOU TUNA PIANO? USE A TUNER.
Wordle par. Yeah @spacey, I get the oof comment. Good one.
Hated this puzzle which was just trying too hard to stump solvers in an unfair manner with unfair or stupid clues like for ASS and INNS. Not clever at all. Just annoying.
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