Relative difficulty: Easy-Medium
Theme answers:
Conceptually, this is very solid, and the revealer explains perfectly all the circled-square business you've been wrestling with throughout. Didn't exactly get an "aha" from me, but definitely got an approving "oh." I mean, it's straightforward, but accurate, that revealer. Yes, the "time" has to "travel" along its row for the Across clues on that row to make any sense. Moving the "time" isn't nearly as impressive as making sure that even with the "time" in the "wrong" place, the answers in the grid make sense. That is, though the actual answers in the grid, i.e. MAN, PAGE LAYOUT, SHOE RACKS, etc. are essentially unclued, they're still plausible answers. Not gibberish. The concept wasn't hard to grok, and once I got it, filling in the themers was somewhat programmatic—again, as with this past Sunday's puzzle, the grid just straight-up *tells* you where the tricky parts are, eliminating the struggle (and fun) one could have had finding those parts. There's a theoretical version of this puzzle with no circles, and it's very solvable, just ... much harder. But it's Thursday. It's supposed to be hard. But in the interest of accessibility and efficiency (gotta make everything bite-size or you'll lose engagement!), we get the hand-holding assistance of the circles. They do look nice, and they do clearly, visually highlight the gimmick. I just miss the truly Challenging puzzles of yore. I subscribe to other puzzles for that, now. But again, the workmanship here is good, and the theme is very clever. By no means an unenjoyable solving experience.
- MAN / PAGE LAYOUT (19A: Make do / 20A: Unfold, as a series of events) (move AGE backward one answer to get MANAGE and PLAY OUT)
- SHOE RACKS / SING (33A: Astonishes / 37A: Clearing, as device storage) (move ERA forward one answer to get SHOCKS and ERASING)
- GALL / IMPROVE ON (43A: Armada ship / 45A: Unscripted comedy) (move EON backward one answer to get GALLEON and IMPROV)
Jennifer Egan (born 1962) is an American novelist and short-story writer. Her novel A Visit from the Goon Squad won the 2011 Pulitzer Prize for Fiction and National Book Critics Circle Award for fiction. As of February 28, 2018, she is the president of PEN America. [...] Egan has been hesitant to classify A Visit from the Goon Squad as either a novel or a short story collection, saying, "I wanted to avoid centrality. I wanted polyphony. I wanted a lateral feeling, not a forward feeling. My ground rules were: every piece has to be very different, from a different point of view. I actually tried to break that rule later; if you make a rule then you also should break it!" The book features genre-bending content such as a chapter entirely formatted as a Microsoft PowerPoint presentation. Of her inspiration and approach to the work, she said, "I don't experience time as linear. I experience it in layers that seem to coexist ... One thing that facilitates that kind of time travel is music, which is why I think music ended up being such an important part of the book. Also, I was reading Proust. He tries, very successfully in some ways, to capture the sense of time passing, the quality of consciousness, and the ways to get around linearity, which is the weird scourge of writing prose." (wikipedia)
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[The only MARLA I recognize] |
The upside of the grid design, with the theme compressed toward the center, is that there's lots of real estate before the first themer and after the revealer, and those areas have been put to very good use, with vibrant longer answers that give the grid added color and interest (beyond the theme). UNION CARD MEAT LOVER RAP BATTLE LIES AHEAD, all solid to very good answers. Ditto the long Downs that shoot out of those areas: PIANO ROLLS and WINE TASTER. They've given attention to the marquee answers, made sure they weren't just taking up space. I appreciate that. The shorter fill suffers a bit—it's got some gunk (NRA ISAO NSA NAE SNL SAO INSO ADREP) and is extremely proper-noun heavy, which can get to be a bit of a nuisance after a while. But all of the names were either pretty famous or else very gettable from crosses, so ... yeah, only a bit of a nuisance (KIM and MARLA were the only ones that I struggled with, and MARLA at least rang a bell—definitely watched "The Practice" a quarter century ago). Feels like an eternity since I've seen RAISA Gorbachev, which is surprising given all those super-common letters, but maybe wives of bygone non-U.S. heads of state can't be expected to have a long shelf life. Actually, it's only been three years since RAISA's last appearance, which isn't even the longest RAISA drought of the Shortz era (that would be June '03 to June '07). Not surprisingly, her puzzle heyday was late '80s / early '90s, closer to her ... REIGN? No, that's the wrong word, but you get the idea.
I guess the idea is to make the tricksy puzzles very easy (for the most part), outside of the trick, so this one just hands you SOPHS at 1A: The class of '26 in '24, say, and from there, it's not hard to get good traction. I'm guessing a lot of people had their first "wha?" moment right where I did—when the apparent answer at 19A: Make do (MAN) refused to make any sense. "I know you can MAN your station, MAN the helm ... but woof that is a stretch to get from there to [Make do]!" Indeed. At some point my brain went "oh, it's MANAGE, where the AGE?" and then the circled squares started waving and yelling at me "it's over here!" After that, the puzzle held no mysteries except for what the revealer would be. Only out-and-out mistake I made was ARIA for ACTI (28D: Opera piece) (a very obviously intentional cluing trick, in retrospect, since ARIA is four letters, starts with "A," and actually fits the clue much, much better than the real answer) (boo). I weirdly wanted REEL instead of EPEE at first (60D: Bit of sporting gear with a bell guard), imagining that maybe there was some kind of bell guard on fishing equipment (!?). But I had sense enough not to write that in. Oh, and I thought that what Tupperware did, helpfully, was BURP (it's NEST) (13D: What Tupperware containers do, helpfully). I don't understand that clue on ALAMO (54A: Enterprise Holdings holding), but I assume it has to do with rental car agencies (yes). Is this ugsome corporate clue really worth your little "Holdings holding" sing-songy rhyme? (A: no).
Don't think any clues need explaining. OPEDS are "takes" in the sense of "opinions" (56D: Takes in the paper?). SLEDS are "zippers" because they "zip" along the snowy ground (69A: Zippers on a snowy day). LAS are [Sixth notes?] because 1. Do 2. Re 3. Mi 4. Fa 5. Sol 6. LA! 7. Ti 8. Do. That was a fun clue for a less-than-fun answer. OK, that's it. Coffee time. Hope you enjoyed this one at least as much as I did. See you next time.
ReplyDeleteI agree with OFL's Easy-Medium assessment.
ADman before AD REP at 8D
Wanted catalyst for the chemical kick starter (10D) but it didn't fit
@Rex burp before NEST at 13D
Shame on me for not remembering ISAO Aoki (11D)
ENdUp before ENSUE for the result at 16A
@Rex Aria before ACT I for the 28D opera bit
Sorry, but I don't know the names of any of the BTS people (35D)
KARMA (51A) took some time to figure out because I kept reading "Deserved" in the clue as a past tense verb instead of an adjective
MARLA Sokoloff (52D) was a WOE but fairly crossed except for the M, which could have been a C
In reference to Korean family names (as in China, there are few family names and the family name comes first) Kim is a hugely common name. It makes Smith look rare. And the crosses were fair. As were the other names I didn’t know.
DeleteI agree with OFL, but: “By no means an unenjoyable solving experience.” Damning with faint praise? LOL
ReplyDeleteLitotes. Look it up.
DeleteIronic that the New York Times, which is credited with the development of the Op-Ed page in its modern form in 1970 (though its roots go back to the New York Evening World of the 1920s), and with coining the term Op-Ed, retired the term in 2021 in favor of "Guest Essay."
ReplyDeleteSo we may suppose, then, that the use of OPEDS (56D) in this puzzle is a nod to time travel.
Saw Jeff Chen’s byline and was initially concerned that we may get too much of a good thing today (an overly cryptic theme with evil clues intended to confound), and was pleasantly surprised to see a nice, straightforward puzzle with a discernible theme (with a slight gimmick) and Thursday appropriate clues. Nice job by the co-constructors today.
ReplyDeleteUnlike OFL, I actually enjoy the circles which he considers training wheels. He stated it pretty accurately - there are plenty of other outlets for grids and puzzles that will make your head explode - personally I would prefer that the NYT remain open and accessible to all.
Not just having the time move, but having both the 'from' and the 'to' entries be real words and phrases takes this to the next level.
ReplyDeleteISAO and RAISA were a couple of blasts from puzzledom past.
Well, I started off on the wrong foot by doing the math backward for 1A, giving me alumS instead of SOPHS. Guess I was anticipating the time-travel theme.
ReplyDeleteHaving solved the areas for MAN, SING, and GALL from crosses, I never looked at the clues and until now hadn't realized that the time words travelled from them. I thought they were travelling from left to right in the theme answers
ReplyDeleteDitto for me, feinstee. I solved, noticed different time periods in circles, didn't think about the travel aspect. Veni, vidi, sed non vici.
ReplyDeleteHad yAPBATTLE for 64A "War of words, in a sense". Seemed plausible at the time.
ReplyDeleteTwo things I loved.
ReplyDeleteFirst, in a couple of places I slapped in an answer that felt right, but as things filled in throughout the grid, the areas around these slapped-in words remained blank. To the point where my inner voice started screaming that something is wrong, and I removed those words. Then, my eyes saw new things, and answers came in.
This happens all the time with me, and I’m guessing I’m not alone. It’s a ritual that brings such pleasurable brain exercise. I wish there was a word for it, a new crossword term, like Natick or kealoa. But nothing comes to mind. Yet.
Second, I loved how every word in the grid is legit; there is no gobbledygook, even with the jumping of AGE, ERA, and EON. Thus, PAGELAYOUT and PLAYOUT are both authentic, and that continues right on down the line.
J&J not only had to find answers that worked like this, but their letter counts had to match. Then they had to design a grid that could not only accommodate this theme, but fill it in with a paucity of junk answers. Bravo on the skill on display here!
But they went a step farther. This grid goes beyond basically filled in. Lovely answers abound: UNION CARD, KARMA, TIME TRAVEL, RAP BATTLE, PIANO ROLLS, WINE TASTER, even LAKEBED.
I drew much pleasure out of what you two created here, Jeff and Jeffrey. Thank you for that, and for all the work you put into this!
As often happens, Rex and I were on different wavelengths. I found this one challenging. For someone who finds the most insignificant things to criticize in themers, he calls this one straightforward? It made no sense to me. I still finished, but it wasn't satisfying.
ReplyDeleteAnd the proper nouns? "Pretty famous"?? I've never heard of any of them except STEWIE and RAISA. And after reading the blurb Rex posted about Jennifer EGAN, it sounds like it's no big loss not knowing some of them.
I only ever see the constructors' names when I read them here, so I'm not at all surprised to see Chen associated with this one. No wonder I didn't enjoy it.
LOL thinking STEWIE worth knowing but Jennifer EGAN not. Cry about it. Or read a book π
DeleteI didn't say STEWIE was worth knowing. I said I've heard of him. I hate Family Guy.
DeleteUnfortunately, an individual's impact on the general consciousness is unrelated to their importance or quality.
Jennifer EGAN’s work really is worth getting to know. She’s a total pleasure to read—Goon Squad in particular is one of her best (although she has several more traditionally written novels if that one’s not to your taste).
DeleteI really must be overly dependent on @Rex because I was like hmmm, I don’t get it, let’s go see what Rex says. And I did think GALL, MAN and SING made no senses so I’m not sure why I did not think about it more.
ReplyDeleteEgan is one of my favorite authors, so I love seeing her in the puzzle even if she is there because her name is so conveniently made of four common letters.
Bit of a Natick at SADAT/VAL. At least it was obviously a vowel, got there before too long.
ReplyDeleteMaybe an age issue. A huge amount of publicity when Sadat and Begin ( of Israel) got the joint Nobel for the peace treaty between their countries. Also Sadat was assassinated for it a few years later. Also big news Sadat as an answer used to appear frequently in the puzzle.
DeleteFWIW the Marne is a river and VAL means valley in French ( that’s where valley comes from)
@kitshef 7:16 I agree, and also thought it was nice how the age>era>eon progression worked (at least in the sense that you age during an era).
ReplyDeleteHad snap before NEST, though wish I'd tried burp. Have to admit I had no clue how MAN, SING, and GALL worked, and just chalked them up to Thursday tough, thinking somehow maybe MAN and GALL were just stretches I needed to help my mind make (and completely lost with SING until I got here). So bump my admiration for the puzzle up a notch.
@Andy Freude 7:29 - exact same erroneous start for me with alumS.
ReplyDeleteAlso wanted to mention I love Rex's inclusion of the Al Stewart tune.
Can someone explain to me which shoerack is the answer for astonishes - makes no sense to me. Thanks.
ReplyDeleteThe trick is in removing the 3 circled letters. So SHOeraCK brings the answer "SHOCK "
DeleteRex explains it all in his writeup. Didn’t you read it?
DeleteI'm with the group that got everything filled in, figured I was done, and didn't bother to try to move all the time periods around, even though MAN and especially GALL made zero sense. Handed in my paper before checking my work. That'll learn me.
ReplyDeleteI have finally learned Ms. EGAN, made the acquaintance of Ms. Sokoloff, and was happy to remember RAISA. KIM as clued, uh, sorry, as this should always be "Actress Novak", although I guess "actress" is now "actor".
And of course I had ARIA first, as any real solver would.
Nice one JM and JC , Just Missed the trick as I Just Couldn't see it. Today's whoosh was all that going over my head. Thanks for some hidden fun.
I understand Rex wants things to be devilishly hard, because he's solved one bajillion puzzles and craves the ultimate challenge every day.
ReplyDeleteBut this was just the right level of difficulty for a Thursday. Took me half the puzzle to start getting the theme, and the revealer gave me enough of a nudge to put it together. My time was bang on for Thursdays for me (about 8 minutes).
Removing the circles would have made it... I don't know. Between "just a little harder" and "oh my God I hate this" 20 minutes of nonsense, depending if I could have made it through the themers on just the Downs and never understanding the trick.
Accessibility is important. Rex scoffs, but like... this puzzle has to be fed to millions of solvers. It doesn't have to be Tuesday easy, but you don't want to go too far and leave a ton of DNFs out there either.
Had fun with this - the circles definitely assist but still a neat trick. Apt revealer and overall well filled. Liked ENZYMES, LAKE BED and UNION CARD. Backed into MARLA, KIM and EGAN - the crosses were fair and straightforward.
ReplyDeleteEnjoyable Thursday morning solve.
Happy KARMA Christmas
I finished a Thursday puzzle for a change, even without fully understanding the theme. I did get TIMETRAVEL and connected it with AGE, ERA, and EON, but that's all. The rest was guesswork and trial-and-error. I never saw MANAGE or GALLEON.
ReplyDelete"Takes in the paper" was a fiendish clue for OPEDS, and using "cab" for "cabernet" made finding WINETASTER really hard. I had
"Stevie" instead of STEWIE, because I thought the cab "passenger" was a visitor of some kind. Visitation? Visitator?
Is "cab" a valid substitute for cabernet? Or is it a figment of Will Shortz' imagination?
I could see that you the longer theme answers involved traveling across time to get from, say, SHO to CKS, but it took longer to see that the time word actually traveled to the adjacent word. I was actually looking for a LEON rebus at one point. But then it clicked, and I liked the puzzle much better.
ReplyDeleteAs for the BTS guy, I never heard of him either, but about 50% of Koreans are named KIM, so I took a chance. (The clue gives the name Korean style, surname first.)
There's none today, but often the printed paper has a small ad for a novel right above the puzzle; many, many of these have been for something by Jennifer EGAN, whom I've never read, so that helped.
That leaves LAKE BED, which raises a deep ontological question: if it has salt in it, is is a lake or a sea? Is the Aral Sea really a lake, or Great Salt Lake really a sea? Here's Wikipedia:
"The Dead Sea, also known by other names, is a salt lake bordered by Jordan to the east and Palestine's West Bank and Israel to the west." A line or two later they call it a "hypersaline lake." That's too long to be the answer though.
Liked it! As Rex did I saw the trick at MAN... where's the AGE? Oh, there it is. After that pretty easy. Yep, also Aria before ACTI. Also, briefly, MEATeatER before MEATLOVER. FAVA beans fixed that. And Moana before MULAN because Disney, ugh.
ReplyDeleteBut all in all a fun Thursday.
Hey All !
ReplyDeleteWell, I'm one that if the puz did not have the circles, there's no way in the history of no way would I be able to figure out the Theme. No way. Does that make me a bad puzzler? Or just a not-able-to-do-alternate-type puzzler? Or
maybe just a silly brain puzzler.
Agree with Rex on liking the fact that the extraneous letters pre time-travel make an actual word, instead of throwing in a time and having gibberish as the result. Nice job.
@pablo
Hey, you got one in the clues!
Funky looking Blocker pattern, looks like it's doing a "Walk like an Egyptian" thing. Only 36 Blockers, not too shabby.
Quick ThursPuz here. Works fine for me. π
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Oh I finally got to use ISAO that took me 2 years to memorize!!!! Was getting him mixed up with ESAI Morales. Still finding the whole thing daunting. What about that female golfer? Yes OCHOA!
ReplyDeleteI have such a knee-jerk reaction to little circles in the puzzle that I wrote this one off nearly from the beginning--especially once saw little three-letter crosswordese time periods showing up in the little circles. It's too bad. This is a lovely little puzzle. And I, like some others put my pencil down before I grokked what was really going on.
ReplyDeleteLiked Alsace showing up in the grid. They really do make lovely rieslings there--nearly always bone dry, rather than the sweet stuff folks seems to expect from that grape. Other than that, lots of stuff I don't know, like RAISA, but the crosses were more than fair.
@MACK "Welcome to the Goon Squad" is worth giving a shot. One of those books that is hard to do justice when trying to describe it.
Fair enough. Maybe I'll give it a try. The wiki synopsis makes it sound like absolutely not my thing. Modern lit. Ugh.
DeleteThe last two books I read were Les MisΓ©rables and Anna Karenina, if that tells you anything.
So here's what happens when you solve online, go really fast and never bother reading many of the clues because you've gotten those entries solely via crosses: you run the risk of not noticing that the clues for MAN, SING and GALL don't actually clue those words, and, as a result, you're unable to fully appreciate the theme until a Binghampton professor lays it out for you.
ReplyDeleteYep, the brilliance of this was totally lost on me. I just thought the TIME words were inserted at various places in other words, which wasn't so impressive. I feel the way I might have had I read only the odd-numbered PAGEs of "A Visit From the Goon Squad".
Randomness:
-- Rex is right: the long entries SING today.
-- RAISA Gorbechev (isn't it really Gorbecheva?) was timely. She always reminded me of Rosalynn Carter -- classy, smart, strong, and a major voice in her husband's ear as he carried out the duties of his office.
-- It didn't fool me for long, but I like the "cab" misdirection in the WINETASTER clue. Seen it before, but always enjoy it.
-- With ISAO, KIM and MULAN, pretty good coverage of Northeast Asia
-- Took me forever to parse PIANOROLLS.
-- Is SOPHS no longer considered an abbreviation, or are the truncated years meant to indicate that it is? Feels like FROSH and SOPH(S) are lately appearing without abbreviation cues. Maybe I'm wrong.
Very nice Thursday fare.
Just reading the comments now, and noticed that @feinstee and @MaxxPuzz had the same experience I did. Whew!
ReplyDeleteHa. That's it? Really? π¦ is overly generous in his assessment of this one. The theme is a yawner, the reveal is blah, the reliance on proper nouns is amateurish, but at least the grid is clean and the fill was fine.
ReplyDeleteTee-Hee: LOTIONS {in the middle of the basket}.
Uniclues:
1 Pepperoni potentates.
2 Trump era.
3 Pump up the impudency.
4 Why Texans are that way.
5 Syllable skirmish in Sedona.
1 MEAT LOVER CZARS
2 A LONG SPASM
3 IMPROVE ON GALL (~)
4 ALAMO KARMA (~)
5 ADOBE RAP BATTLE
My Fascinating Crossword Uniclue Keepsake from Last Year: See "twerk." HIND SWIZZLE.
¯\_(γ)_/¯
Not sure that a MEATLOVER would be all that uncommon in a vegan restaurant, as long as the food is good. And occasionally you'll find a vegan in a steak house, probably complaining about the lack of vegan options.
ReplyDeleteA real beauty of construction -- and much fun to solve as well. (Although once you figure it out, it isn't especially hard.) In my case, I noticed the missing AGE and EON before I saw where they had gone to. And so I thought I had my revealer:
ReplyDeleteLONG TIME, NO SEE.
Once AGE and EON reappeared along with ERA, I knew that couldn't be right. TIME TRAVEL is an inspired revealer.
And the fact that both the phrase with the missing TIME and the phrase without it are both real phrases and not complete gibberish is an absolute masterstroke.
I also see the hand of an old puzzle-making pro in 61D trying to throw us off with "Scale abbr" for LBS. It could have been LAS -- but I wasn't fooled. I already had the "B".
My kind of puzzle. Loved it.
Had IMPROVise, which led to INas many words (which I rationalized might just be as valid as INSO) but left me with the circled ISE. THAT can’t be right!
ReplyDeleteThis is the type of puzzle that I end up filling with known expressions over clues (never heard SHOERACKS for astonishes, but maybe that’s a Sunday Scaries type term now. The Filipino people were SHOERACKed when they learned of Imelda Marcos’ extravagant spending! And why can’t unfold be PAGELAYOUT, as in unfolding a newspaper reveals the PAGE LAYOUT).
AHA moment when seeing the trick of ‘SINGing (Gen Whatever we’re on now talk for ERASING) the circled letters. AAH when seeing the double trick of moving the time period.
SO SO puzzle when solving, followed by AH SO post-solve response in appreciation of the trickery!
Just wondering if LAS has ever been clued by reference to “There She Goes” band, The La’s.
ReplyDeleteToday’s TIME TRAVEL took us all the way back to Al Stewart and Year of the Cat….a pleasant journey indeed. Had AGE & ERA in place from cross clues and thought that with Chen as co-constructor the third circles had to be EON. Saw the MAN AGE and GALL
ReplyDeleteEON stick and the spent a goodly amount of time in mental SPASM before discovering the reveal at 57a ERA SING all doubt about this grid’s cleverness. Usually, I join Rex in asking that circles be excised, but today I’m fairly sure I needed them. That tricky Tupperware©️was guaranteed to sEal before it could burp again and finally NEST into my grid. J & J’s clueing was a Thursday delight with Opportunity on Mars (ROVER) and Zippers on a snowy day (SLEDS) tucked away in the corner to provide solver’s fun even after the reveal had been completed, an additional sweet note — sorta felt like a sip of Ice wine after a WINE TASTER’s CAB.
I can only plead being interrupted by phone calls with a billing department for my failure to see how the TIMEs TRAVELed between entries - rats! Double rats for not noticing GALL's missing EON! Continuing with my shoulda-coulda - had I noted the constructors, I'd have known to look for something more from Jeff Chen....
ReplyDeleteDo-overs: UNION dues, Aria. No idea: KIM, MARLA, STEWIE. Help from previous puzzles: ISAO. Help from being old: RAISA. Help from being a fan: Jennifer EGAN.
I think a better revealer clue would have said "...depicted in three rows of this puzzle". Then you might not have so many people, including me, getting MAN, SING and GALL from the crosses and forgetting about them. Nothing prompted me to go back and look at them later. I assumed "time travel" merely meant we were hopping from an AGE downward to a different ERA, and then to yet another EON.
ReplyDeleteDon't just sit there, MOVE!
Medium. I didn’t figure out what was going on until after I’d finished the grid and the TIME TRAVEL answers were major solving speed bumps. So, finally putting the pieces together was a nice aha experience. Clever and tricky, liked it. A fine debut!
ReplyDeleteSignificant erasures: ENd up before ENSUE, me too for Aria before ACTI, and Goon before GURU.
Unlike Rex, I thought the circles were fine and likely would’ve given up without them. I don’t want a challenge that badly. However I was very much in sync with RP on my aha moment which was closer to “oh.” Conceptually good, yes but as far as solving, I squinted more than I smiled.
ReplyDeleteThat was at least partially due to the trouble I had with the proper names like Seok-jin. I suppose it would have helped if I knew what K-pop and BTS are. However I did like WINE TASTER with ALSACE as a good Riesling is my all-time favorite white.
A great WINETASTER will enjoy the early glasses of ALSACE Riesling because he knows what LIESAHEAD -- the DREGS.
ReplyDeleteI love those Dragon Rolls with their EEL, but I can't stand PIANOROLLS unless they're made with Baby Grand Steinways.
The IMPROVEON sounds like a SciFi gadget that makes you slightly better, though not invincible.
I thought this was a way cool concept, executed very well. Easy? Yes! But still two thumbs up is my review. Thanks, Jeffrey Martinovic and Jeff Chen.
@Roo-OK, I'll take Paulo, but now I'm going to have to give you "French street (RUE), "Flour + fat" (ROUX), and "Drag queen Paul (RU). The last one is OK because we both get a point.
ReplyDeleteVery clever Thursday which I only saw when I came here. Got the themed circles but still WTF? I never heard of SING for "clearing as device storage" (will remember it now, maybe) & SHOERACKS & GALL (?) though I filled them in. Consoling myself that it was a Jeff Chen collaboration.
ReplyDeleteLiked KARMA a lot.
I'm in the group that got it filled in and thought the TIME TRAVEL was just going from AGE to ERA to EON. That seemed pretty thin for a Thursday theme but I got the congratulatory music so figured that was all there was.
ReplyDeleteThat was last night and later as I was dropping off to sleep, it occurred to me that the TIME TRAVEL might have been along a row to another entry. But I misremembered PAGELAYOUT being next to SING so didn't pursue that line any further. This morning I reviewed the finished grid and, yep, there it was. AGE was next to MAN. Et cetera. That definitely added some body to the theme's density. Nice.
Can't help but notice these things---it's an affliction---but several entries were not up to the task of filing their slots and needed some help: SOPH, PIANO ROLL, CZAR, LA, SHOE RACK, SOP, LOTION, CATER, OP ED, LB, LIE AHEAD, SLED and HORN. POC (plural of convenience) to the rescue. Among these were a theme entry, a long down and a couple of the uber helpful two for one POCs where a Down and an Across both get boosted by sharing a single S at there ends. (ENZYMES is a plural of necessity since that S is needed for a themer, SING.)
This was a fine Thursday but I would have appreciated something a little tougher, and Rex's objection to the circles is valid. I think if they hadn't been there I probably would have figured it out, but no guarantee, and I can imagine a lot of people hating it.
ReplyDeleteNot thrilled with SOPHS at 1 across cuz I'm tired of it. It's an abbrev of one of those words you just don't hear in this part of Canada... here it's simply grade 10, grade 11, etc.
Hands up for BURP and being quite delighted with it. The correct answer is so much blander.
Lots of places used to be LAKE BEDs, including the clay bluffs above my house. As well as most of the province of Manitoba.
[Spelling Bee: Wed -1; just can't get a streak going!]
I'll bet that Jeff Chen's contribution was programming his huge word list to come up with the themers. The cluing was not up to his standards.
ReplyDeleteSeeing KARMA in the grid reminds me of the Karma Cafe. There's no menu. You get what you deserve.
One nitpick, less with the puzzle than with the NYT house style, is that Mikhail Gorbachev's wife's last name was Gorbacheva. The "a" at the end is not optional or only exists in the original Russian.
ReplyDeleteWhen Raisa Titarenko got married, her legal last name became Gorbacheva. This is how she was known and universally referred to by her compatriots. Just as the birth name of Anna Kournikova has an "a", notwithstanding that her father's name was Kournikov, so does Raisa Gorbacheva's married name.
My solve went the way of Rex's for a change. But also, for a change, I'm not complaining about the little circles.
ReplyDeleteVery easy for me, THO, despite the proper name unknowns: STEWIE, MARLA & KIM. The crosses were of AVAIL.
ok, sooo … no cheater black squares today. The fillins must be Ai-generated, then? @RP didn't seem much happier about them fillins than for yesterday's hand-made puz, tho.
ReplyDeleteLuved the TIMETRAVEL theme revealer. Great theme idea, and kinda different. I'm ok with havin The Circles, but coulda definitely done without em, for a ThursPuz rodeo.
staff weeject picks: AGE. ERA. EON. nice puztheme respect, for the runt words.
Thanx for gangin up on us, Chenmeister & Mr. Martinovic dude. And congratz to Jeffrey on his timely half-debut.
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Can anyone explain 30 Down: One getting into a cab perhaps. Answer is winetaster. I just don’t get it.
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DeleteMnorman
DeleteCABernet taster. Cabernet wine. Wine tasting. Annoying & too cute?
Delete@Beth64, wine fans say "cab sav" for Cabernet Sauvignon. And yes, it's annoying.
ReplyDeleteThank you, Rex, for filling in some of the answers on these deceptive clues. I’m not a big fan of clues that are real stretches and there are a lot of them in this puzzle.
ReplyDeleteBut I appreciate your spelling things out for dumbbells like me. Although I think I have legitimate criticism for clues that are trying a little too hard to be cute/deceptive.
The MAN-AGE one is explained, but what about the same concept in the SHOERACKS one? No black square-jumping excuse? Just seems too convenient.
First time to comment, but I LOVED this. Lots of fun, lots of challenge, but not impossible. Put READS for OPEDS first. Oops.
ReplyDeleteThe most interesting things to me about this blog are the discussions about puzzle construction. For instance, black squares that aren’t counted for words.Today, the use of circles.
ReplyDeletePerhaps the blogger might also expand his comments to include some tidbits of xword history, great constructors, advantages and disadvantages of types construction.
Thanks.
@Tallulah (4:36 PM)
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Easy-medium: pretty close. I'd say easy once you grok that the opera piece is not ARIA, and besmirches is not MARS. Those two cost several TIMETRAVEL units, so to speak. I was wondering what mime travel was; could it be a Marceau tour in the U.S.?
ReplyDeleteWell done with the displaced "weejects" being time passages. That's the Chenmeister for ya. Birdie.
Wordle bogey.
SUMMA TIME
ReplyDeleteMARLA is A red HOT LOVER,
the GIRL will PLAY ALONG for fun,
LOTIONS ON, ROLL down BED covers,
'THO hard to IMPROVEON ACT I.
--- STEWIE O'NEAL
Had to come here to fully understand the gimmick. Now that I see what it is, I would say it’s way too convoluted.
ReplyDeleteGot the puz, sorta, but could not "get" the trick. Agree with Anon 1:58 - way too convoluted.
ReplyDeleteOtherwise a bearable, non-rebus Thursday.
Diana, LIW
Another hand up for Aria before ACTI. Suitable use of TARS. I once had a photo model named MARLA; one of the prettiest GIRLs I've ever known.
ReplyDeleteWordle bogey. Coulda gone lotsa ways.
Extremely stupid theme for three little words.
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