Thursday, July 6, 2023

Request regarding the ball game / THU 7-6-23 / Designation for very minor stars / Band whose jukebox musical led to a pair of film / German sausage informally / Otis's feline friend in a 1989 film / Backing for an argument so to speak / Anago at a sushi restaurant / Christmas pudding ingredient

Constructor: Alison Perch

Relative difficulty: Easy


THEME: TAKE ME OUT / MAKE MONEY (20A: Request regarding "the ball game" ... or instructions for answers the starred clues / 53A: Earn ... or what answering the starred clues will do in each case)— solvers have to omit "ME" from certain answers, which turns those answers into forms of money:

Theme answers:
  • 24A: *Response to a knock on the door ("COME IN"--> COIN)
  • 28A: *Their history is celebrated in March (WOMEN--> WON)
  • 42A: *Neighbor of Saudi Arabia (YEMEN--> YEN)
  • 45A: *Concrete component (CEMENT--> CENT)
Word of the Day: Alexis BLEDEL (44D: Actress Alexis of "Gilmore Girls") —
Kimberly Alexis Bledel (/bləˈdɛl/ blə-DEL; born September 16, 1981) is an American actress and model. She is known for her role as Rory Gilmore on the television series Gilmore Girls (2000–2007), and Emily Malek in The Handmaid's Tale (2017–2021). Bledel also had a recurring role in Mad Men in 2012 and reprised her role as Rory Gilmore in the Netflix reunion miniseries Gilmore Girls: A Year in the Life (2016). (wikipedia)
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Well that was ... odd. First, getting the revealer right up front, then having the gimmick be so slight, so thin, so easy, that it hardly felt worth it, then finding out there's a second revealer! It's the second revealer that really brought the Big Ambivalence out. On the one hand, thank god there was something more to this puzzle—the whole thing just wasn't adding up. On the other hand ... what? By which I mean, what (in the world) does MAKE MONEY have to do with "TAKE ME OUT"? It seems like the two revealers ought to have some relationship to each other—form part of a complementary set or echo one another or, really, just relate to each other in any way, but I don't see the connection at all. Like, if taking "ME" out had resulted in the names of ball games (to use one impossible hypothetical) that would've made sense: TAKE ME OUT ... to the ballgame! That's a phrase. There's a connection. If all the theme answers ended up being "ball games," well then dang, that would be perfect. Or you could take the phrase some other way. Like ... if you take someone out, you, let's see, go on a date with them, or on the town, or you pull them from a "ball game," or you assassinate them, whatever. Maybe there's a theme to be found in one of those meanings. It just seems like there should be some sense/meaning connection between revealer 1 and revealer 2, is what I'm saying, and there isn't one. They are distinct phrases, they give you instructions for a little trick and then explain the trick, but as phrases, as crossword answers, they have nothing to do with each other. It's weird. If you take me out "to the ballgame," you MAKE MONEY? How does that work? What kind of weird scam / long con are you working at the ballgame? It's a head-shaker. So I was grateful for the second revealer ... and then baffled by the second revealer. Not baffled by what it meant for solving the puzzle (that's OBVI), but baffled by what the snappy wordplay was supposed to be. I don't think there is any. And that's at least mildly disappointing.


There are stray "ME"s in the grid (in TIMELINE, ROME, ANIME), which is also disappointing. It's true that the "ME" only has to disappear for the starred answers, but in an ideal TAKE ME OUT puzzle, there are no "ME"s in the whole damn thing. More visually elegant that way. I'm also half-bothered by the fact that the MONEY is not of a piece—that is, it's half actual, specific national currencies (YEN, WON), and then half ... not that. You've got a word meaning "currency" (COIN), and a generic unit of currency (CENT). It's a motley lot. As for the grid, it's built with a lot of 4-5 action (i.e. a preponderance of 4- and 5-letter words), so it's a bit on the dull side, and A REAL is up there among the worst partials I've ever seen, but overall the grid is clean enough, and "GO FLY A KITE" livens things up nicely. This was shockingly easy for a Thursday, with BLEDEL being the only answer provided me with any resistance at all (her name was random letters to me—if you say "Gilmore Girls," I say "Lauren Graham" ... and then I have nothing left to say. "Yale," maybe?). I have hardly any notes on my grid because I don't remember any of it, it all went by so fast and seemed to be going out of its way to be straightforward and thornless. Looking the grid over now, I remember thinking that that's a nice way to clue AMMO (51D: Backing for an argument). I had just the "T" at first at 49D: Like a Pac-Man T-shirt and really wanted DATED, before thinking nah, it's probably gonna be the more positive-sounding RETRO (correct!). I had OBVS before OBVI, but I think that's literally the only misstep I made the whole time. Tough to see where anyone's gonna have any issues today (except perhaps, as I did, around BLEDEL).


There was one disturbing part of this puzzle that had nothing to do with the puzzle, but rather with the fact that I solved it the day after finishing a truly horrifying novel called Tender is the Flesh by Agustina Bazterrica. I won't spoil it for you, as I think it's fantastic (if you can handle very, very grim subject matter). But let's just say that the book is in large part about the processing of meat ("special" meat), and so having A HEAD of BEEF in the middle of my grid, along with stray tangentially related words like SHOTS, HONE, TIMID, and especially SUEDE—all of this was giving me dark flashbacks. I may be having these flashbacks a lot, and for a while. It was that kind of book. Again, highly recommended (short, very readable, great summer fare), but, you know, brace yourself. 


See you tomorrow.

Signed, Rex Parker, King of CrossWorld 

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81 comments:

  1. Mind. Blown. I was tooling along, getting that we take the ME out, and I was fine with that. Simple straightforward theme. Then I saw the second reveal after all the ME-less entries were in and looked at the themers again.Holy sh%$! Then I saw that THEY were symmetrical. Man oh man oh man. This is brilliant. Alison, you have a bright future as a constructor. This is an astounding debut.

    I didn’t care that the CENT, COIN, WON, and YEN are a “motley lot,” as Rex put it. In fact, I didn’t even notice. I also didn’t care that there’s no connection between TAKE ME OUT and MAKE MONEY. Never even thought about that. Did notice the three other MEs, but nothing could have taken away my delight with this.

    Loved the clue for ROOM.

    I know SUET is a part of some of those globs that you put out for birds. And I know we eat it ‘cause I was admonished not to eat it when I was pregnant. But SUET shared a list with other stuff not to eat while pregnant: chalk dust, red clay, laundry starch. Seriously? No prob; I was obsessed with eating chicken sandwiches and crunchy Cheetos.

    “Milk” before ECRU. When I worked at the café at A Southern Season we’d get the occasional British people who would order tea instead of the coffee their companions ordered. I always took a thing of cream for the coffee guys and a separate thing of milk for the Brits, telling them quietly that it was milk for their tea, hoping that they would be deeply touched and grateful for my worldliness. If they were impressed, they never showed it, and I was bitterly disappointed that they didn’t worship at my tea-savvy altar. I need to let this go.

    I also liked the clue for ENUNCIATE. Yep. You say it all, every single consonant and vowel. Having a conversation with a dedicated enunciator is exhausting for me because I end up just marveling at how the person has the wherewithal to bother. Speech like this is as distracting (for me) as upspeak and vocal fry. In enunciators’ How many tests did you take? you hear each sound, even in tests. My version is more How many tess ja take? And I’ve lived a perfectly normal life. I sat on the couch whispering the word sandwich my way and then an enunciator’s way and realized that I have a nasal vowel just like in French. I say /sɛ̃ wich/ - no N sound. When I whisper it without the nasal sound, it’s /sæ wich/ - completely different. Your day is now complete.

    “David” before PIETA. Bet we’re legion this morning.

    EYE-UP/visually assess. Ok, so sometimes when we’re goofing around at the end of class and messing with each other, I’ll teach my students the supreme come-back of the universe. But I tell them before they deliver the line, they have to EYE UP the person, shaking their head slowly. It goes like this:

    Person A: Listen. I’m not as dumb as I look.
    My Student: [slowly visually assess person, shaking head slowly] You couldn’t possibly be that dumb.

    They’ll take turns practicing while I, the director, give feedback and then alligator jaws my arms together and say Take two, action!

    @burtonkd from yesterday re barbecue vs cook-out – fair enough. But honestly it was tongue in cheek, and I was just trying to stir up some trouble.

    @M&A – thanks! I still wish we could email.

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    1. Anonymous9:49 AM

      You are the reason I read this. I am always disappointed when the is no Loren Muse comnent.

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    2. Same here! Yay, LMS.

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    3. Anonymous2:55 AM

      I always look for your comments and to have them come up first this time I was such a pleasant surprise !

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  2. It was easy, but it was fun. Rex is, as usual, a harsh taskmaster, finding faults that never occurred to me.

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  3. A very clever construction that did NOT detract from the solving joy, and we got some nice non-theme material like GO FLY A KITE and ENUNCIATE. More like this, please.

    I was a little worried about BLEDEL but the crosses seemed unimpeachable.

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  4. One overwrite: my designation for very minor stars (22A) was Dwarf.

    And one WOE: Ms. BLEDEL.

    Other than that, what @Rex said: an easy Thursday outing, and also what @LMS said: an enjoyable and impressive Thursday outing.

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  5. Anonymous7:15 AM

    Methinks OFL protesteth too much. This was a lot of fun. I couldn’t care less that there’s no “connection” between the themes. Who (besides Rex) thinks there should be?

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  6. I’m with @LMS on this one; didn’t notice the differences in the theme answers or the disconnect between the two revealers, and didn’t care. With an early revealer, I skipped ahead to the theme answers and got three of the four with minimal or no crosses. My only quibble with the theme was the second revealer clue - “Earn” is a verb alone, but the answer is verb plus object, MAKE MONEY. That’s a pretty small nit though.

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    1. Anonymous9:16 AM

      Are there BIG nits?

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  7. Bob Mills7:26 AM

    I needed both revealers to finish the puzzle. I caught on to YEMEN/YEN right away, but put "M" in the space where "N" belonged. COMEIN/COIN showed that ME had to be removed, as confirmed by "Take me out to the ballgame." I enjoyed this puzzle far more than most Thursdays.

    I'm in Florida (near Tampa). Was I the only one on the planet who couldn't access Wednesday's puzzle because of some "server" issue?

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  8. Enjoyed a Thursday for a change. Nice that they gave out the gimmick early so that the themers contributed to the solve, and it was creative the way there was a bonus reveal as well. The grid was remarkably clean (actually, considering that this is the NYT we are talking about, it was pretty much sanitized) with maybe BLEDEL and MOAB the two trivial offenders for today.

    I thought a dust bug was a MiTE, was not familiar with the magna/ANIME connection and had no clue on MOAB - so it wasn’t pretty the way I totally messed up that little 4x4 section in the SW. I’ll take that though since the rest of the grid was clean, fair and enjoyable for me.

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  9. After revealing COIN and YEN, I was thinking what a coincidence it was that two theme answers had to do with money. Then came CENT, and it began to sink in that it was intended, that the theme answers were related, all confirmed with the second revealer. That extra theme layer is a wonderful touch, adds a surprise, and makes this more than a one-trick pony.

    I love riddle clues, and those for ROOM and TIMELINE today were not only masterful, IMO, but they were also original – never appeared before in a major venue, according to my crossword references. Major props on these, Alison!

    What are the chances of having two answers starting with SUE in the same grid, not to mention next to each other? Probably about the same has having BRAT in the puzzle twice in three days (although on Tuesday it was clued in the imp vein).

    After solving, when I looked at ENUNCIATE, my brain called out “nuncio”, and I thought the two words had to be related, and a quick lookup revealed that they are, from the Latin word for “declare”.

    Congratulations on your debut, Alison. Add to what I loved in your puzzle today the paucity of three-letter answers. Eagerly looking forward to more from you, and thank you for this most lovely outing today!

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  10. There was a pleasant oddness to this solve - down with Rex’s take on the obtuse theme but it worked for me in the end. Liked ENUNCIATE and the quaintness of IN LEAGUE.

    BLEDEL was unknown but the crosses were fair - in fact the entire grid was fair - very smooth.

    IRIS

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  11. So glad that @LMS is back in action.

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  12. Liveprof7:58 AM

    Here's Harpo Marx playing Take Me Out on I Love Lucy:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H16vDiX_PCo&t=18s

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  13. Weezie8:04 AM

    Either I’m in a weird growth spurt when it comes to my solving skills or the puzzles have been intentionally both easier and more geared to my generation. Or both? This was a personal best solve time for me and I want more bite out of a Thursday! I’m with Rex on the theme broadly - kind of interesting with the double revealer but it just doesn’t do it for me, or warrant the giveaway of putting the first revealer so close to the top. That said, it was interesting and didn’t feel like a familiar construction - you could sense Alison trying to *do* something without it feeling too try hard, and it has my respect.

    It didn’t hurt that I enjoyed the cluing in general and there was some fresh fill, and I think less crosswordese than usual. I liked “Caesarean delivery?” a lot, especially because it’s a double misdirect, which had me thinking of salad first.

    My only real stumble in this puzzle was “Head line?” where I had BRAI from crosses already and thought, “Well, BRAId, OBVI” but then that left me with BRAId_AVE eventually. I’m embarrassed to say that I was so committed to the BRAId that I had BRAIdWAVE in there for at least a minute before I recognized my error. I am a silly goose.

    Now on to the kitchen to tackle the dishes from my partner’s birthday dinner last night. The food processor and the mint-pea soup had words and I’m afraid it’s a bit of a battlefield out there, wish me luck. (Tasty though - with peas and mint and lemon balm and pansies from my garden, and berry crisp from local berries for dessert!)

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  14. Anonymous8:14 AM

    Too easy. Want more resistance on a Thursday.

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  15. Maybe @Rex should read something happy next time!! Cute puzzle, some creative clueing, and also enjoyed seeing ATELIER in a puzzle. I don’t remember seeing that before, but I probably have.

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  16. I'm more with Rex than with @Loren on this one -- I'd have liked it better without the second revealer. But here's my lame attempt,with help from Tina Turner, to tie the two together.

    With the news these days, AMMO as clued was a little too literal for my taste. Facts, logic, ad hominem slurs, OK, just leave your AMMO at home.

    I did wonder if there was really a D-LIST. In my youth, we just called them "starlets."

    I had the N, saw "recess" and put in Nave, even while thinking "I thought it was the apse?" Fortunately I once dated a woman who had a sister in MOAB, or I'd still be puzzling over it.

    OK, I'm off to an early medical appointment.

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  17. Anonymous8:24 AM

    Great memory!

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  18. Alice Pollard8:25 AM

    this was brilliant. a rare double themer. If you cannot admire the construction of this puzzle (motley lot?? or not) you are missing the joy of solving these darn things. Well done Allison! I hope this is the start of a long, successful constructing career.

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  19. Fun, clever and unique. Seems so far everyone’s found it easy but I had to work at certain BITS of it. The ME part was a solid good theme on its own but the added MONEY bonus was sweet icing on the cake. It would’ve been cool to end up with baseball related words but this was still an outstanding effort. Very impressive debut Alison - congratulations! It wouldn’t be UNFORESEEN if you become a regular favorite constructor.

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  20. Bernie8:31 AM

    Couldn't pull Suet and didn't know what the heck an atelier was. Zoomed through the rest of the puzzle, but NW killed me.

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  21. Tuesday for Thursday - I.e., Too easy for the third hard day.

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  22. Anonymous8:40 AM

    Thought this was more challenging than most here but that may in part be from dropping in ENUMERATE instead of ENUNCIATE. Overall really enjoyed it though. Thought it was pretty clever and modern which actually kept throwing me off tonally because I kept expecting it to creak like most NYT puzzles but it was mostly very fresh. Only part of the review I'd agree with is the partials seemed extra prevalent today.

    One small quibble is that imo a comic's routine is a SET, whereas a BIT is a comic's joke. So a routine is made up of multiple BITS which form a SET. Slowed me down from getting ABBA up top since I don't know much about them so the jukebox musical clue was a total mystery.

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  23. Anonymous8:44 AM

    Too bad Rex is so grumpy about this one. This is what an entry level Thursday is supposed to be. A couple of gimmicks and a few ? clues.

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  24. Thx, Alison; you WON with this one! 😊

    Med (took a little extra time before filling in the final cell to make sure of the 'EM' removal; otherwise, easy-med).

    COIN seemed a bit of an outlier (only in the sense that it's not a denomination as per the other three themers), altho it fits the description of being MONEY, and it's MAdE at the mint, so that fits, as well. Liked the theme; gets a pass from moi.

    ENUmerATE before ENUNCIATE; not a biggie, tho. Patched up the SW, and Bob was my uncle.

    Fun adventure! :)
    ___
    Peace 🕊 🇺🇦 ~ Compassion ~ Tolerance ~ Kindness ~ Freudenfreude ~ Serendipity ~ & a DAP to all 👊 🙏

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  25. Like a sparkler at fireworks time. Nice, but unexciting.

    Very few Terrible Threes clogging the grid (6), leaving room for ten longs.

    Needed the gimmick to guess WON.

    Good clue for TIMELINE.



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  26. Hey All !
    Different. Wondering how/when Alison discovered the TAKing ME OUT of certain words ended up as money-related words. Hmm, she may've said, look at that! YEMEN minus ME is YEN! Let's see what else is out there! Speculation, natch.

    Then make a two-Revealer puz after said discovery, and get it accepted! Kudos.

    @Lewis
    There is a run of doubled letters in North Center Downs. TT, EE, RR. That's gotta be rare, yes?

    ThursPuz trickery? Not really. More like WedsPuz fare. Does have nice long Downs. AIRHOLES is a funny alternative to the harsher version.

    Time for me to GO FLY A KITE

    Two F's
    RooMonster
    DarrinV

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  27. Easy Thursday, but enjoyable.

    Would love if Pet Shop Boys’ Opportunities (let’s make lots of money) could have been worked into the second revealer. Cause that’s the earworm I’ll have for the rest of the day.

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  28. First thought was "well thanks so much for explaining the trick in advance, magician person". This meant that I got the answers to the starred clues by taking the ME out, but not bothering to think about the resulting word. Even after MAKEMONEY I didn't bother to go back and see what words I had made by omitting the ME, so I missed out on how clever this really was, and am suffering from an acute case of cheating myself, whatever that is called.

    No real problems except for a total ignorance of "Gilmore Girls". BLEDEL is a last name I have never encountered, and I've been around the block a few times.

    Knew that about the PIETA. Always fun when a piece of trivia comes in handy.

    Absolutely Pulchritudinous construction AP. You deserved more careful attention on my part, and thanks for all the fun.

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  29. I tooled along through the first eleven rows of the grid thinking, Gosh, easy Thursday (subtext: i.e., too easy for me, champ at wrestling the most diabolical rebus to the ground). Then I got to the second reveal, which revealed my weak powers of observation - I never noticed the MONEY - and my ignorance of a major world currency, the WON. So for me that was the fun of the puzzle: in real life I hate it when the joke's on me, but in a crossword I love it. Alison Perch, you got me good! But there were other pleasures, too: UNFORESEEN, GO FLY A KITE, ENUNCIATE, IN LEAGUE, CANDY BAR. Nice debut!

    Do-overs: OBVs, surpRising. Help from previous puzzles: AMA. No idea: BLEDEL.

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  30. Wait, hold the Earth, the NYTXW app says my streak is 600. Thought it was important news for everyone. 🙄

    They run an ad here in Colorado from the Nebraska tourism board that's cute as heck where they liken themselves to that odd kid in school who turned out to be kinda interesting once you got to know him. This puzzle is the Nebraska of crosswords ... just a bit odd, but kept my interest.

    You hit the revealer first so the gig is up early, kinda odd, and then the second revealer is even odder. This is the only money I'll be making today, so that feels ambitious. The long downs are wonderful.

    ATELIER is on my favorite words list. You'd like to believe the romantic era paintings and ateliers are all cute and arty-farty, but every one I've ever been in is a madhouse of chaos and mess.

    You need more than 10,000 won to scrape together eight bucks apparently. Their accountants probably go through a lot of adding machines after pounding the zero key to death.

    FIGS before SUET meant the northwest was the slowest to finish. I thought suet was for bird feeders.

    N-Ks: MOTE (a bit of something). You have a mote of schmutz on your geegaw.

    Uniclues:

    1 My belly's grumble.
    2 Approved time off to eat a carrot.
    3 Teenage brain.
    4 Get string.
    5 {Tee-Hee, oh wait...} Switches from canola.
    6 Pull one's self off the La-Z-Boy and go do something.
    7 Out with the old and in with the new.

    1 CANDY BAR YEN (~)
    2 OK'ED MODEL STOP
    3 ACNE MIND (~)
    4 GO FLY A KITE DEET (~)
    5 DOES PALM
    6 ENACT BRAINWAVE (~)
    7 OMIT RETRO BITS (~)

    My Fascinating Crossword Uniclue Keepsake from Last Year: "Go ahead. Stand up. See what happens." CANOE TEST

    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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  31. Neither Brains nor Brawn10:03 AM

    Dear Fun_CFO.......thanks A bunch! Cause now that's an earworm we shall ALL have for the rest of the day.

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  32. I would like to echo all the good reviews of this puzzle mentioned already in the comments. Especially @Carola 10:00 AM. Exact same experience.

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  33. I've never heard the term "eye up." You "eye" something/someone, or eye them "up and down" -- but you never just eye them "up". Or just "down," for that matter.

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  34. EasyEd10:23 AM

    Am surprised Rex did not complain YEN is not Yemeni currency…or did he?—now can’t remember, all in good fun. Had ElaborATE before ENUNCIATE. Thought I was pretty smart until I had to enter CENT. Fun concept, out-of-the-box thinking. Same with Rex’s and others comments, keeps the mental juices flowing.

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  35. @roo -- That's a cool catch! I don't track triple-doppels like that, but I don't remember seeing them before.

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  36. Today is my birthday and I would like some of @Weezer's pea and mint soup. With pansies, no less! Yum!

    I plan to TAKETIMEOUT to do some SHOTS and eat some CANDYBARS not in a TIMID way but very AVIDly. I am the MODEL birthday girl and I won't STOP till everyone, from the most ELITE to the DLIST, has toasted with me. Hope I've WON you over and you're ALLHERE and have AREAL YEN to be INLEAGUE with me. AFTER I'm done I'll ENTER my ATELIER and rest my IRISes.

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  37. I think everyone has probably said the same thing. The first revealer is extremely ho-hum...and then you get to the second one -- the kicker. I had a very nice "Aha" there.

    I'm wondering if this has ever been done before: two inter-meshed revealers? Not one revealer broken up into separate placements in the grid, but two revealers providing two distinct bits of information. It's an interesting method of construction.

    Still, the solving process was both very easy and rather underwhelming until I got to the second revealer. And therefore I can't say it's one of the most thrilling Thursdays I've ever done.

    Attention should be paid, though, to the cluing. I really, really liked the tricky and imaginative clues for ROOM and TIMELINE.

    Not so, though, with AMMO as the answer to "backing for an argument, so to speak". There are far too many gun-toting, angry, hating hotheads in the good old U.S of A. who are much too apt to take this answer quite literally.

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  38. @LMS: Loooooooooove your avatar today. Brilliant!

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  39. Yeah, I’m with @LMS on this and I just knew also that @Rex would (albeit mildly) criticize the puzzle with respect to the theme. I dunno, cool beans that one answer tells you to “take ME out” of the answers to the starred clues and the second tells you that “it MAKEs money” when you do. I consider it a nicely wrapped little Thursday gift. And yes, it was slightly easier than most Thursdays but still delightful.

    Ok. @mathgent….did I miss it before today or did you go BLUE in the same 24 hour time period that I DID!?

    I also thought figs before SUET (my motto is “just say no” to SUET) and thought David before PIETA but unlike figs I left it blank until I got some crosses. I did NOT know that it was the only signed work.

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  40. Fun double gimmick for a Thursday. Classic RP overthink-the-theme review, maybe shoes a size too small?

    @LMS today from yesterday, just glad you noticed little old me:)

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  41. Oh Rex, you DO go on about NADA!

    Fun puzzle, fine debut - and TAKEMEOUT of the equation, should have finished far more quickly.

    Had CIRCA over SORTA, ENUMERATE instead of ENUNCIATE (it too works for “say it all”, as in listing each and every point), ETTE for ETTU (“I’ll just have the small Caesarette salad”), even made a rebus for diMMEst instead of DList, thinking MME = Madame - hey, the theme must be shortening female titles (ties in with ETTE, SORTA!)

    Oh what a tangled grid we weave,
    with easy answers misperceived!

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  42. Easy-medium. I was around 3/4 done when I figured out the theme which I absolutely needed to do to finish. Tricky and fun, liked it. A fine debut!

    I did know BLEDEL.

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  43. Thursday puzzles are usually a grind for me, but I found this one to be delightful. (Perhaps because it was on the easy side?) Anyway, I liked the double revealer and hope to see more of Alison's work.

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  44. I don’t know if the pizza chain Little Caesars is national enough for use in crosswords, but 7D (Caesarian delivery?) made me think of “pizza” as an answer if the clue were “Little Caesarian delivery?”

    I hope that the EMU is the mascot for Eastern Michigan University.

    With the release of the new Little Mermaid film, we now have AREAL Ariel.

    I’m considering switching bug sprays, but first I want more DEETs on the new one.

    Remember7/6/2023 as the day this double revealer idea appeared. The complaint by both Rex and Jeff Chen about the two revealers not being related will present a challenge to constructors, and you will soon (in the slow motion sense that the NYT operates on) see a puzzle that rises to that challenge. But let us all thank and praise Alison Perch for planting that seed in her debut puzzle. Congrats, Alison.

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  45. Kate Esq11:12 AM

    This was a great Wednesday puzzle for me. Finished it sub 10 (not my best Thursday time, almost half my average Thursday, and much closer to my average Tuesday time). Nice solve, enjoyable cluing, no real dreck, but ultimately I want more trickiness out of a Thursday theme.

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  46. Melrose11:28 AM

    On the easy side but cute theme. I knew there was a trick when Yemen didn't fit, thought it would be a more standard rebus, didn't grok the theme until later. Some resistance in SW corner, had mite instead of mote, expected the 4-latter Utah city to be Orem, took a little while to clean that up. Nice puzzle. Rex, you are too picky.

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  47. @LMS -

    For the first time in 15 years, have changed my profile pic

    I see your Trump airhole, and raise you a Biden blowhole!

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  48. Anonymous11:37 AM

    It seems to me that, more and more, @LMN is looking to find things to object to in @Rex's write ups. She used to note her differences of opinion, but in a more subtle way. Now, she like so many others doesn't seem to be able to state her opinion without dissing @Rex's. I think of it as someone accepting an invitation to a host's party and then spending the evening criticizing the decor.

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    1. Anonymous3:59 PM

      Think you mean LMS and think you are misreading her tone. She respects RP’s views and shares (with glee and wonder and humor and intelligence) how her experience differs. No harm. No foul.

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  50. @Beezer. When I found out how to avoid the captcha, I blue it up. It's been years.

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  51. SimonSays11:50 AM

    I agree with LMS et. al., thought OFL’s meandering case against the double theme and the “money” quibbling wasn’t one of his more useful or fair critiques—particularly for a debut constructor.
    For a Thursday, it was better than average but, alas, it is my least favorite day of the puzzle week.

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  52. I don't understand the complaints about the two revealers not being connected. They are most certainly connected -- and their respective clues make the connection crystal clear. The first revealer tells you what adjustment you need to make before writing in your answer. The second reveler tells you what result to expect when you do. Without those two clues, there might be some confusion. With those two clues, there's none at all.

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  53. Anonymous12:43 PM

    I guess it was easy, but it seems like finally the appropriate difficulty for a Thursday. I'm getting tired of Thursdays being Friday clues plus rebus.

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  54. Best debut of the year in my book! I had difficulty with the social media answers-never been to Reddit and text speak makes me crazy. I know it is my problem and I absolutely am trying to get over it. Certainly am learning all the abbreviations from doing crosswords, and from listening to the now 17 year old son of my friends. But having spent the last 40+ years working to communicate clearly, accurately and persuasively, text speak still irritates me. I shall keep learning despite my “old dog” status.

    The puzzle on the other hand, was near perfection and as clever and fresh as a Thursday can get. And a double reveal! Just wow. And this wasn’t as easy for me as most others; I had some serious wheelhouse problems - old dogs, new tricks and all. The baseball part was in fact very easy, but I did not notice that taking “me” out left currency as all of the theme answers.

    What a feat of construction! Best Thursday of the year. I look forward to the next Alison Perch masterpiece.

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  55. Now that I've finished it (which took me way too long) & seeing the whole grid, it was a cute gimmick.

    Liked Ecru for cream alternative a lot.

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  56. I had to read the comments to see that this was your debut, Alison. Congrats & hope to see more of you!

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  57. Double revealer meat! Different. Like.
    The moral of the story: Wanna make some money? Then don't allow me in!

    staff weeject picks: WON & YEN. Money words. They qualify, once you take me out. Besides them, there was only 4 (regular) weejects today.

    Some fave stuff: GOFLYAKITE. CANDYBAR. BRAINWAVE. ENUNCIATE. ROOM clue.

    Thanx for the fun me-mint-em's, Ms. Perch darlin. And congratz on a really smewell debut.

    Masked & Anonymo6Us


    **gruntz**


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  58. @mathgent…yikes…that doesn’t say much about MY level of observation, does it?

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  59. I thought: that's some fancy pet carrier that features AIR HORNS.

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  60. Anonymous2:33 PM

    I am surprised that so few seemed bothered by Rome, Anime, and Timeline. The constant complaints of PPP and of redundancy in clueing or answering and then no complaint that in a puzzle in which we take out ‘me,’ we indiscriminately leave ‘me’ in three times amazes me. I liked the puzzle; it was much easer than most Thursdays; I didn’t care that reveal 1 and reveal 2 weren’t connected. It could have made sense if the first reveal was request regarding the ballgame (unless you don’t 53 across).

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  61. Anonymous3:04 PM

    Hated this puzzle.

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  62. Maybe this puzzle was slated for Tuesday, but WS woke up and realized it was the 4th of July, so substituted the burger puzzle and ran this today instead.
    This is one of those days I totally agree with Rex.
    I was hoping for some peanuts and Cracker Jacks, and all I got was this coin toss game.

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  63. Anonymous3:42 PM

    Ugly gimmick, even for a Thursday.

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  64. I thought this was an inventive theme but not without some inconsistencies. Two of the themers, WON and YEN, are specific monetary units of South Korea and Japan. A third, CENT, is a much less specific unit and according to Cousin Google is part of at least 51 different currencies. And the fourth, COIN, doesn't refer to any particular unit of currency at all.

    For those saying they don't really pay any attention to theme inconsistencies like these and thinking that anyone who does should GO FLY A KITE, here is the guideline from Submit Your Puzzles to The New York Times: "Themes should be fresh, interesting, narrowly defined and consistently applied throughout the puzzle. For example, if the theme includes a particular kind of pun, then all the puns should be of that kind."

    Substitute "unit of currency" for 'pun' and it would read "If the theme includes a particular kind of unit of currency, then all the units of currency should be of that kind." I think the puzzle fell short in that respect.

    I think that a critical review of a puzzle can praise is strengths while at the same time not hold back on pointing out its weaknesses. Doesn't have to be part of the "either you're totally for it or you're totally against it" polarizing atmosphere that is so often on display in much of our culture nowadays.

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  65. Loved the word ENUNCIATE which I know of. course but I wonder why I know it. I doubt if I have ever said it or written it. True of course of thousands of beautiful English words , speaking of which, I recalled hearing the recording , the only, of Virginia Woolf ,where she speaks about English words. Can be heard at National Portrait Gallery in London. Probably on internet now. . She has no accent at all. Atall. Delightful to see the word CRUNCH recently.

    Very nice puzzle.

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  66. Alison, this was a lovely debut, and the double theme was delightful! There is *no* reason that the revealers should be aligned, I actually prefer that they are coming at the themers from entirely different angles. For my solve, on the YEMEN themer, I tried to rebus the YE[MEN] which wreaked havoc for a bit, until I discovered the error of my ways. Overall it was an "easy" but the NE 4x5 block had us stumped for a bit OBVI was not OBVs to us, nor ATELIER, nor SUET, and still scratching my head over the clue for TIMELINE, but eventually it all fell into place. Great fun!

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  67. Tender is the Flesh is an incredible read!

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  68. Anonymous2:03 PM

    Coin is indeed a currency - albeit crypto in nature.

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  69. I couldn’t agree more with Rex’s write up. I actually came here in hopes of some validation and got it. However, many of the commenters have left a bad taste in my mouth with their condescending “oh Rex” remarks. Reminds me of so many sites where someone very intelligent and/or knowledgeable on some subject is pestered not by trolls but rather by people who are unaware of their own lack of sophistication.

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  70. Diana, LIW9:27 AM

    I haven't looked at the puzzle yet, but just wanted to say that after yesterday's around-the-world flight, I can only hope that today's puzzle in in American Sign Language. I know quite a bit of that!

    Diana, Lady-in-Waiting for Crosswords and wife of the hard-of-hearing Mr. W

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  71. Burma Shave10:11 AM

    ELITE LINE

    "It's UNFORESEEN", the MODEL said,
    "to MAKEMONEY HERE about.
    AFTER TIME you'll get AHEAD,
    ENTER IN, then TAKEMEOUT."

    --- MILO BLEDEL

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  72. My ballgame request would be PUTMEIN. Who wants to sit OUT? But I get the puz gimmick. That NW corner was SORTA tough with ciRcA in there at first. Off to Chicago for the better part of a week so don't expect much from ME.
    Wordle birdie.

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  73. Anonymous10:46 AM

    Maybe not the most perfect theme but the puzzle was an enjoyable solve. Bravo to Alison on her debut NYT puzzle.

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  74. Diana, LIW1:02 PM

    TAOS instead of MOAB was the beginning of the end for the SW corner. I thought that was a bit of a stretch - been a while since I've been in that neck of the non-woods.

    Otherwise, a perfectly done and solvable (including both "tricks") puzzle. No ASL required.
    Diana, Lady-in-Waiting for Crosswords

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  75. Well, now I have ABBA's "Money, Money, Money" stuck in my head. Fun puzzle, not so sure about the earworm.

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  76. And...my post was ignored. Again. Makes me feel like a non-person. I'm here, folks! I EXIST! I promise! I gave it a par.

    Wordle was a par despite no greens till the last putt.

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