Citrus drink since 1979 / FRI 3-10-23 / Page or Ameche of football / Jazz trumpeter Jones / Pantsless Disney character / Civil rights pioneer Claudette of Montgomery / Big little role in the Marvel Universe / Kurylenko of Black Widow
Constructor: Claire Rimkus
Relative difficulty: Medium-Challenging
THEME: none
Word of the Day: Claudette COLVIN (6D: Civil rights pioneer Claudette of Montgomery) —
Claudette Colvin (born Claudette Austin; September 5, 1939) is an American pioneer of the 1950s civil rights movement and retired nurse aide. On March 2, 1955, she was arrested at the age of 15 in Montgomery, Alabama, for refusing to give up her seat to a white woman on a crowded, segregated bus. This occurred nine months before the more widely known incident in which Rosa Parks, secretary of the local chapter of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP), helped spark the 1955 Montgomery bus boycott.
Colvin was one of four plaintiffs in the first federal court case filed by civil rights attorney Fred Gray on February 1, 1956, as Browder v. Gayle, to challenge bus segregation in the city. In a United States district court, she testified before the three-judge panel that heard the case. On June 13, 1956, the judges determined that the state and local laws requiring bus segregation in Alabama were unconstitutional. The case went to the United States Supreme Court on appeal by the state, and it upheld the district court's ruling on November 13, 1956. One month later, the Supreme Court affirmed the order to Montgomery and the state of Alabama to end bus segregation. The Montgomery bus boycott was then called off after a few months. Her brave stand sparked outrage and garnered national attention, leading to a boycott of Montgomery his boycott that lasted for over a year. Ultimately, the Supreme Court declared segregation on public transportation to be unconstitutional, thanks in part to the lawsuit Browder v. Gayle, which was filed on behalf of Colvin and three other women. (wikipedia)
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[technically his name's GUSTAVO]
Well, no zoom-zoom whoosh-whoosh today, that's for sure. Conventional blocky grid structure with all long answers in corners (except the middle one) kept me pent up in corners, working section by section, and I never worked up any real flow. Also, those NW / SE sections are very cut off, with only the tiniest passageways in and out, so they function as choke points, and I choked on both (Claudette COLV-no idea (6D: Civil rights pioneer Claudette of Montgomery), NOT A WORD, ugh (37D: "Shut your mouth!" = NOT A PEEP!)). The actual content of the grid was overwhelmingly smooth and occasionally sparkly, but solving this one felt more like slogging through a Saturday than flying through a Friday. PREGNANCYPILLOW is the best thing in the grid, easy, so I'm glad it's sitting dead center—where best things belong. I can't say I found anything else in the grid nearly as thrilling (in the sense of original and fun-to-see), though I have to give some respect to NO RELATION, an answer that is perfect for its clue, but that took me Every Single Cross to get. I was looking for something one-word and adjectival the whole time. NORTH CAROLINIAN? NOMINATED? No idea. NO RELATION is adjectival ("unrelated," basically), but the two-word phrasing absolutely baffled me. Couldn't parse it as two words, no sir, no way. On the other side of the grid, I struggled to get SCANTY from SC-, and struggled to get LORD (seemed ... too basic to be right) and struggled to get BADLIARS (parsing, again), and struggled to get ION (I'm sure it's right, just not a way I think of good old NACL), and yet, but once I finally got into the NE, I brought the whole thing down fast, without ever looking at either long Down clue. How? Why? I have no idea why I didn't look at them earlier. I get so attached to the "work the short stuff first" method sometimes it's like I get locked in and the longer stuff becomes invisible to me. I think it's frustration. I know I *should* be able to get the shorter stuff, so I keep whacking at it, when it might make more sense to walk away and look elsewhere.
Anyway, there was no part of this grid where I didn't struggle at least a little. NOT A WORD! absolutely killed me for a bit in the south (37D: "Shut your mouth!"(NOT A PEEP)). I used that "W" to make WEAK at 49A: 1 on a scale of 1 to 5, maybe (POOR)). This locked me in good. Extremely plausible answer "confirmed" by somewhat plausible answer. Hate all Risk-related clues because the puzzle has always (for decades) assumed that I played Risk and I have never played Risk and do not plan to play Risk (44D: It's blue on a Risk board = EUROPE). My whole solving life, "Hey, you know in Risk, where..." No, stop, I don't. How 'bout you just refer to a regular map? That's gonna be hard enough for me. [LOL I thought maybe I *had* played Risk at one point because I had a faint memory of game pieces that were vaguely geopolitical and so I just googled [what is board game with spies and bombs] and turns out that was Stratego]. Also no idea about football (as clued) so ALAN was hard (3D: Page or Ameche of football). *Do* know something about Better Call Saul (the best TV show of this century), so GUS helped me out, but unless you know that show *well*, yeesh, that seems hard (47A: "Better Call Saul" character ___ Fring). Some of the slang today I knew (BAKED), some of it I did not (HOSED? ... I guess) (46D: Cheated, in slang). Marvel Cinematic Universe characters ... meh, we're back to Risk again, basically, i.e. not interested (this will make the rest of my solving life difficult, I realize, oh well). I knew enough to know ANT-MAN but not OLGA Kurylenko. Two MCU clues? Feels like shilling. The OLGA clue was an unnecessary plug. Lotsa OLGAs in the world.
I only just realized that I was reading 1A: Protagonist's pride, often (TRAGIC FLAW) incorrectly. I thought the clue was telling me that the protagonist was proud of his flaw, which made no sense. But it's pride itself that is the flaw. I'd've done better here without the word "Protagonist's" in the clue, oddly. Just couldn't catch this puzzle's wave(length), most of the time. Seems well put together, but just didn't click for me.
I had NOTAWORD/WEAK just like Rex, but felt like the Risk one just HAD to be EUROPE. The NW was the toughest section for sure, even with the gimmes GYNT and ITD. I considered THUD for 1D at first but never actually filled it in until I had HOLYTOLEDO and UPANDLEAVE (great stacked answers!). Excellent misdirection at 1A.
My first guess at 18A was... OAHU. Luckily APIAN was easy so I fixed it quickly.
I object to POOH being clued as a Disney character. POOH and his friends had a long existence as lovely written stories with sweet illustrations before Disney got ahold of them and made them cartooney, which they didn’t deserve.
I had LEAD for the political advantage and no clue on the VENI, VEDI, VINI, MOE situation, so an unfortunate DNF there. LEGO PERSON seems a little green paint-ish (how would Play-Doh person fly as an answer, or Muppet as the Sesame Street resident - those things are Muppets, correct?).
I could definitely do without ANTMAN and pantsless Disney characters, but it takes all types to make the CrossWorld go round. If you go away for a SPA WEEKEND, make sure someone is available to feed your pet AXOTOLIS and NEWTS.
Alan Page followed his football career with a career in law, culminating in a stint on the Minnesota Supreme Court and does a lot of good word in the space of children's literacy and education. I often forget he was a football player.
Nineteen mystery clue/entries put me in DNF territory. I had to look up MELLOYELLO (I don't think we have it out here), OLGA, EUROPE.
I think that some of clues are incorrect. The game is called craps, but an individual roll isn't called a crap. LGA is not a Delta hub. SPA WEEKEND is not a thing. Not enough sparkle to compensate. No me gusta.
I gave a side eye at LGA being a Delta hub, too, @mathgent. But Travel & Leisure, a trusted source for all technical matters, says: While Atlanta is Delta's largest hub, it uses several other hubs within the United States: Boston, Detroit, Los Angeles, Minneapolis-St. Paul, New York-JFK, New York-LaGuardia, Salt Lake City, and Seattle. Delta also has international hubs in Amsterdam, London, Paris, Seoul, Mexico City, and Tokyo.
You mean besides the fact that he is literally a character in many Disney productions? Is the Little Mermaid not a Disney character either? Cinderella? Certainly they are not JUST Disney characters, and I can understand the consternation at Pooh being clued as one, but to say he’s not in any way a Disney character makes no sense.
Ran into a couple brick walls last night but managed to finish this AM, another reminder that sleep helps mental functioning. Stubbornly refused to let the Delta hub be anything but ATL, and also erroneously thought frogs or toads were more appropriate cousins of axolotls, so that part in the East took awhile. Back in the NW, ALAN was a gimme having grown up with the Purple People Eaters, (thanks again @JC66). ALAN Page went from his NFL days to become a justice on Minnesota's Supreme Court. GYNT was also a gimme, but I was almost as certain that THUD, bolo, and irk were correct starts and ends to those long acrosses, so that just looked awful. Besides nobody expectedly skedaddles so that qualifier threw me and if I'm just going to up and leave I might skedaddle or i might just slowly saunter out of the place. And down in the SW I have gender associations with figurine, rightly or wrongly, so PERSON took forever. All of which is to say I liked it early on, got frustrated in those places and went to sleep, then enjoyed the finish this AM. Happy Friday, all.
When you course through a combination of pack-a-punch long answers and I-dare-you-to-get-me clues, you are, IMO, experiencing a very Good Friday.
Glorious long answers like I OWE YOU ONE, THERE THERE, NO RELATION, TRAGIC FLAW, UP AND LEAVE, and NOT A PEEP. Those last three, by the way, are NYT debut answers.
Vicious clues (and I love vicious clues that are fair) like [Rather] for A BIT. Clues out of my wheelhouse. Clues/answers that made me dig so deliriously deep that I remember the struggle post-puzzle, i.e., I so vividly recall my “Could it be THAD?” moment and how tenuously I placed that answer down, and how good it felt to have pulled that one out of my cranial haystack.
I marked four clues as especially good, but it turns out that three of them were used before in puzzles in major venues (yes, I am a crossnerd). But that original one – [They’re easy to read, typically] – for BAD LIARS, well, that one is prime.
You gave me the odyssey I hope for on Friday, Claire, in this jewel shimmering with skill and talent. Thank you, and I so hope to see your byline again soon!
And oh yes, add me to the complaints re: POOH being a 'Disney character'. @Richardf8, saw yours after posting, thanks for chiming in on Page. Remarkable career and person.
This puzzle peaked in the NW - all downhill after that. The singular CRAP is brutal as is the entire ONE D corner. MAG, SCANTY, TUE - the list continues.
Agree with others on the POOH clue - like the rest of the grid obtuse and without nuance. My neighbor is the head mechanic for Delta at LGA so no issue with that other than there are 3 or 4 larger Delta hubs - ATL, LAX that were close to fitting.
Solved this in normal Friday time - but it was a 1 or 2.
Why is POOH reduced to a Disney character? Pretty sure he had no pants in the original books, long before a movie, or whatever Disney creation, depicted him
I was confused by the distinction between actress Michelle Williams and singer Michelle Williams because I've seen actress Michelle Williams sing. (In Cabaret, in 2014. She was very good.) (I wanted to post a video of her, but the only thing I could find on YouTube was a bootleg of the whole show, and I won't promote the theft of actors' work.)
A tough one, but I enjoyed the struggle. OK, except maybe in the NW corner. Had exactly the same problem with TRAGIC FLAW that Rex mentioned: I read the clue as something a protagonist would be proud of, and I got nowhere. And I didn't think of ROPE as "a bit of cowboy gear" until I had ROP and figured that 19A had to be DENT. Which I still don't get. Any help out there for that clue?
But everything else was chewy and gettable without so much gnashing of teeth. And a few were so easy that I didn't think they could be right--BOOK TITLE and LORD, for example.
@mathgent: LaGuardia is, indeed, a Delta hub. That one stumped me too, because I fly out of DTW, also a Delta hub. But there are 12--one dozen!--official Delta hubs in the US! I thought there were two--Atlanta and Detroit.
And I agree with everyone else about POOH. A.A. Milne and E.H. Shepard. The original illustrations are so charming and evocative. I remember when The Mouse staked its claim in the Hundred Acre Wood and I saw the Disney illustrations of those characters that I'd loved since I had to be read to. There is no comparison. The Disney Pooh looks like a middle-aged, middle-management fat guy.
As a Lego fan, there is no such thing as a LEGO PERSON. Got annoyed with that, because I put in minifigure until I reread the clue. Otherwise, tricky yet enjoyable grid!
Count me in the "easy for me" crowd. About all of my first guesses on the long answers were right and only a couple of write overs, PEEP instead of WURD was about the worst, and that wasn't bad.
Breezy Friday, CR. Could've Resisted a bit more, but lots of fun, for which thanks.
Kurylenko of "Black Widow"... the Black Widow part was unnecessary.
There aren't a lot of Kurylenkos out there in Hollywood.
Olga Kurylenko is a pretty big name, probably the most famous current Olga out there. Quantum of Solace? Hitman? Oblivion? These were not small movies. :)
This is a great puzzle IMO. I love hard puzzles but you can still get it. Not a bunch of “NATICKS” aka references I do not know. This was all things I could eventually get and it took me more than my usual five to seven minutes. Even Colvin came together and Veni Vidi vicious was adorable. I just felt great admiration for the constructor there was not one answer that was a THUD or a dud.
I'm here mainly to add my voice to the chorus of those who are Greatly Offended by cluing POOH as a Disney character. So wrong (morally and aesthetically, at least).
I was amused at some of Rex's sticking points and how they lined up with mine. Rex: "Claudette COLV-no idea" ; me: "Claudette -VIN" and no idea. Rex: "I struggled to get SCANTY from SC-", me: "I struggled to get SCANTY from -TY".
@mathgent: IMO your clue accuracy complaint is one-third correct. LGA is, in fact, a Delta hub, as a quick web search can confirm. There are multiple sites/articles with titles like "20 best SPA WEEKENDs" so I conclude that is also an actual thing. I don't know much about the game of craps, but I think I'm with you on that one. CRAP without the "s" appears in the phrase "crap out" but I can't make that usage fit the clue.
I didn't realize OLGA what's-her-name was a Marvel character or that would have bugged me too. Just saw "Slavic name in fiction" matching O__A and popped in the rest.
Pooh is a Disney character - at Disney parks: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winnie_the_Pooh(Disney_character) This was one of the very rare Friday puzzles that I was able to stroll through - if 23 minutes is a stroll. Had duck for POOH and left a lot of blank squares on my first run-through. But kept filling in stuff as I went from across to down etc. Really nice puzzle. Thank you Claire Rimkus and Will Shortz.
Finished with a cheat. I shouldn't have had to cheat, but YEE before "haw" is simply bad. A laugh is "hee-haw," not "yee-haw." And I agree that Winnie the Pooh isn't a Disney figure, but a character from A.A. Milne.
I quit watching the Marvel movies like 15 years ago, but OLGA Kurylenko was a gimme. First, she was a Bond girl ("Quantum of Solace") but she was also in "Centurion" not long after and "November Man" a few years after that.
But to be honest, most of what's she's done has been has been modern B-movie action crud. ("Momentum"? Hard shudder.) But she's Ukrainian and beautiful, and so very memorable if that's what you pay attention to.
Anyhow, I got the bulk of this in reasonable time, but the NW resisted. But once I figured out 2D ("Hmmmm. It's not SPUR, and it's not CHAP.", it eventually fell into place.
Maybe had a little trouble getting into the NE because I initially tried SKIMPY for 23A.
Embarrassed that it took as long as it did to get 14D because I have at least two albums on which he was (co-) band leader.
At first I'm thinking: Why in the world would anyone be "proud" of their TRAGIC FLAW? But then I realized that the word "pride" was being used in the sense of "Pride goeth before a FLAW."
I didn't realize Disney had appropriated POOH. I thought POOH was an A.A. Milne character. When was there a Disney takeover?
Where does a PREGNANCY PILLOW go? You wouldn't lie on your stomach, now, would you? Does your neck need extra support? Your back? Your legs? Truth to tell, I've never heard of a PREGNANCY PILLOW.
With no crosses, I immediately wanted SKIMPY for the Speedo. But SCANTY is almost as good.
Maybe we should have a new Marvel Universe duo: ANTMAN and the LEGO PERSON.
I found this quite easy in the West and somewhat challenging in the East -- making for a Medium Friday solve. And, once again, too much pop culture for my liking -- though I really did like the NO RELATION clue.
Disney takeover of Pooh was in 1961, but the original book just passed into the public domain (in the US) last year! The first major result of this was a horror film called “Winnie the Pooh: Blood and Honey,” which came out last month and has grossed over $4,000,000 worldwide on a reported $100,000 budget.
I agree that Pooh is not a Disney character. I also think it was Julius Caesar who said VENI vidi vinci; invoking some 23-year-old album by some group I never heard of annoyed me. Not that I had trouble with the answer...
Amy: POOH is a Milne character. Otherwise, found this engaging and fairly easy. Had Ten instead of TUE for NCIS but got straightened out soon enough. Anyone know if 51A (JEEP) is true?
@Amy 9:00 An old "Vietnam Era Vet" friend many years ago explained it to me as: General Purpose vehicle, or GP, sounds like Jeep. But someone here will know!
Adding my voice to all the other Pooh responses, Poo is a Milne character that Disney mad a cartoon about. He is NOT a Disney character. How gard would it have been to clue that correctly?
Otherwise an enjoyable puzzle. Never heard of Mello Yellow except in the Donovan song, though.
I did just fine with this puzzle – no lookups, finished in good time – but I had trouble getting started. Reading only across clues, I got nothing until VENI at 20A, inferable, even though I didn’t know the album [“____ Vidi Vicious”]. Then I got WIT at 22A [“The salt of conversation, not the food,” per William Hazlitt] and finally ANTMAN at 25A. Like Rex, I don’t know the Marvel stuff, but “Big little” in the clue gave it away (hey, that was an echo of an earlier-week puz). And I also knew Lindsay LOHAN at 32A. That was finally enough to give me a couple of the downs in the area, ALPHA and WANNABES, and then I started slowly grasping PREGNANCY as the first word in the grid-spanning 35A. So, it was all rather halting, one-step-at-a-time stuff and not very whooshy.
I did the NOT-A-word thing (37D) but, happily, didn’t think of “weak” as a possible answer to [1 on a scale of 1 to 5, maybe]. And, btw, when I was in elementary school, our report cards used a 1-5 scale, but 1 was excellent and 5 was very poor, or maybe even failure – don’t know ‘cause I never got any (yay, me). But “word” wasn’t helping with any of the acrosses there, so I did some brain-wracking and came up with PEEP as a plausible substitute.
I did the lower two-thirds of the puzzle first and finished up in the NW and NE. At that point I had to face that immensely confusing clue for 1A and, like Rex, I thought it was asking me for something the protagonist was proud of. Huh? But I got the crossing answers FLEET and WOE, finally saw ADVISORY and then realized were we talking about a FLAW. Oh.
Among the long answers, I liked BOOK TITLES, I OWE YOU ONE, TRAGIC FLAW, HOLY TOLEDO, BAD LIARS and THERE, THERE. When I saw the clue for 28D [People, e.g., informally], I already had MA_ and thought if the answer to this is MAn, thousands of solvers including me are going to hit the roof. Glad to discover the periodical angle. I liked that clue for DENT [Beginning of a large amount of work]. @Taylor Slow -- I took it as: "Have you started the so-and-so project yet?" "Yes, I've made a DENT in it."
The Trekkie in me liked FLEET clued with starships. It would have been nice to see GO LOW clued with the Michelle Obama quotation. Don’t know anything about CRAPs, but do I take it that the game is named after the very thing you don’t want to happen? Odd.
UNICLUES:
1. Piglet’s exclamation upon discovering that his best friend is working out, on a diet and has given up hunny. 2. What the young James T. Kirk decided to do when he was being chased by cops for drunk and disorderly, realized he was tired of corn and pigs, and felt the stars beckoning. 3. Characterization of the Oscar Wilde wannabe who’s such a bore at dinner parties. 4. The person who’s actually behind all the diva’s outrageous demands. 5. Saturday and Sunday at a facility that offers nothing but mud baths morning, noon and night. 6. The heavy tread of the meanest, toughest, scariest muppet on the Street. 7. Sympathy offered to Mr. Alda when he lost the Oscar for Best Supporting Actor.
1. “HOLY TOLEDO, POOH!” 2. UP AND LEAVE IOWA 3. SCANTY WIT 4. HER AMOK AGENT 5. ONE-D SPA WEEKEND 6. THUD ALPHA ELMO 7. “ALAN – THERE, THERE.”
[yd, 0. @okanaganer, my last word was a plural of the sort that brought you down the other day. Note to self: must watch out for those less usual plural endings. Also – it’s always a CRAPshoot which “UN” words they’ll accept. I was really hoping for UNADDLED.]
Who also protested that POOH is not a Disney character? ABSOLUTELY EVERYONE ON THIS BLOG, it seems! Which is a very good and just thing for both POOH and A.A. Milne...but...
When, like me, you're neither a late night solver nor an early riser and when you write your first comment before reading anyone else's, you're going to get "scooped" again and again. And while being scooped by one person is ignominious enough, getting scooped by 25 people is almost unbearable. I wanted so badly to defend you, A.A., but you didn't really need me -- did you?
Found this easy for a Friday. And 51A was the most Mondayish clue I have ever seen for a Friday. It would have been easy for a Monday. It is spelled right out for you JEEP. GEEZ. Had SkimpY before SCANTY and monopolY before ADVISORY. Nice puzzle, no real trouble spots.
Having nicelydone rather than IOWEYOUONE led to all kinds of dead ends and ultimately a DNF.
LORD was borg, BADLIARS was BIgLIARS, CRAP (can it be singular?) was krap (hey, it could be!) to make a “skimpy” Speedo.
Man, I made a mess of it (nicely done!). Even initially had Duck in for pants-less Diz character but figured they couldn’t just use Donald’s last name, could they?
Hey All ! Most of puz flowed smoothly and rather quickly for a Friday, until I came to a screeching halt in the whole NE area. Just Could. Not. come up with anything! Wanted CBS for TUE forever, thinking TWOS for CRAP (it CRAPS , not a single CRAP. A single CRAP is... well, you know...), for some reason BAKED not entering the ole brain. Had onpot, litup, saying "what is happening!?"
Broke down and Googed for axoloti cousins. Had the ___TS, so threw in NEWTS, getting me TUE, then ION, and eventually finishing the puz. And still had a FWE! Argh! Had VEdI/LEAd, which really sucks, because I had the N in there originally, but changed it to the D because LEAN sounds stupid for it's clue. You're in the LEAD, not in the LEAN. Stupid politics.
BTW, if you Goog axoloti, you'll see they are rather cute looking salamanders. Wonder how they would be in a fish tank.
So a good FriPuz, until that JERK of a NE corner. 😁
BigLIARS for BADLIARS writeover. Think that was it for ERASES. Oh, also had WANabeES. Kealoa with the "___-haw" clue. Write in the _EE, and wait.
Gee, I found this puzzle nicer to do than most Friday puzzles, but then again I research the answers. Anyway, I did kike the puzzle.
A thought about POOH. If that character is a character in a Disney movie, then I guess you would say he is a Disney character. If you consider the book the movie was based on, he would be better thought of as a character of those who put the book together. Bit once you appear in a Disney movie, I guess that adds to your resume in a way that crossword constructors can make use of. Especially late in the week. As Z was wont to point out, even if a clue is not the most apt for the entry, especially in late week puzzles, if it has some low rate of truth, that's good enough for crosswords. As the week proceeds, the rules for the clues get more loose. As opposed to those who comment here.
A decent Friday puzzle with the exception of two bad clues - Pooh is an A.A. Milne character not a Disney character and jerk means obnoxious not bad, evil or criminal.
As an absolutely obsessive Lego nut (happy AFOL day tomorrow!) no one calls them Lego People / Lego Person - they are mini figs - minifigures if you want to spell it out. Lots of people have SigFigs - signature figures made to look like themselves. There are also mini dolls in the Friends line. But a Lego Person would be me. A human into Lego. Minifigs are the toys.
@Mike Herlihy (7:40), Taylor Slow (7:57), Eater of Sole (8:25). I saw a couple of lists of Delta hubs on the internet that didn't include LGA. "Hubs" are defined to be centers, as in a wheel. Delta has 12 centers?
I forgot to mention another clunker today. LEGOPERSON.
No quibbles with your characterization of the puzzle as closer to a Saturday than a Friday but "Better Caul Saul" is the "Best show of this century" LOL cmon man what are you smoking? It's not even better than the show that spawned it!
First of all, appreciate Rex’s providing the backstory on the Claudette COLVIN clue. So inspiring. Hard to fathom that the determination of one person - and a teenager at that - resulted in such a profound impact on our society. But there you have it.
I thought this was an outstanding Friday. As I studied the blank grid before beginning, I almost drooled in anticipation of filling in those lovely long stacks in the corners, the long downs in the corners, and that beautiful spanner smack dab in the middle. Thank you Claire. You outdid yourself today.
My first thought for a pantless Disney character was Donald DUCK, among others, but not POOH.
I felt the tiniest bit embarrassed for IOWA but then googled and discovered it’s not the only state where the PEEPs are outnumbered by swine. ONE TRAGIC FLAW in that situation is their highly controversial impact on the environment and quality of life for human neighbors. Having at one time lived near a large scale operation, I can attest that the smell alone is BAD enough to make a person want to UP AND LEAVE. Permanently.
@pmdm - I don't think people are claiming the POOH clue is inaccurate or unfair, just unfortunate. Like using the clue "Disney figure with a top hat" for Abraham Lincoln, because Lincoln appeared in numerous Disney works.
Not the same because Disney bought the rights to use the character in movies and TV shows from the AAMilne estate (apparently in 1961) so there is more of a connection here. This is a Friday clue. I personally don't see anything wrong with it.
My TRAGIC FLAW is knowing Fridays aren't for me and doing them anyway. Lotta B-list TV trivia as with most Fridays.
This is the first time hearing of PREGNANCY PILLOWS, and an image search reveals them to be dog beds for people.
Our Lonely NYTXW Editors Tee-Hees (LNETHS) drooling over BAKED CRAP.
Uniclues:
1 My reaction on seeing a beloved A.A. Milne character clued as a Disney character. 2 What you do after seeing Captain James T. Kirk's future birthplace. 3 Asset of the Rex Parker Anonym-oti. 4 Noted singer-songwriter's representative punches paparazzi (for publicity?). 5 "It tastes good," and "you should try it." 6 Comforting phrase for M*A*S*H star after losing his crosswordese dominance to [Page or Ameche]. 7 Submarines. 8 Memo from Republican headquarters. 9 Memo from me to the reason I abandoned a social media platform and thereby saved hours of wasted time.
1 HOLY TOLEDO! POOH? 2 UP AND LEAVE IOWA 3 SCANTY WIT (~) 4 H.E.R. AGENT AMOK (~) 5 MELLO-YELLO LIES (~) 6 THERE THERE ALAN 7 NOT-A-PEEP FLEET (~) 8 GO LOW ADVISORY (~) 9 I OWE YOU ONE, ELON
I’m thinking that @Nancy should get in on the running chest thumping contest between @Pablo and @Roo. After all, today we have the PREG-NANCY-PILLOW, even if she doesn’t acknowledge it. And, while we’re at it, shouldn’t @mathgent get partial credit for AGENT?
Surprised that Rex didn’t give ELON a shoutout as being down there with Bret Stephens in the sub-human depths?
I think that, on special occasions, lambs eat LEGOPERSON.
To stop my dog from UPANDLEAVing, I had to teach him the Down and Stay.
I thought this was a scrumptious Friday. Admittedly not very whooshy on my part, but fun and solvable. Thanks, Claire Rimkus.
Easyish. This felt tougher than it was. COLVIN was of course a WOE but I didn’t have any erasures and I struggled quite a bit less than @Rex did. Smooth and the corner stacks had plenty of sparkle, liked it.
Had some trouble breakin into the NW corner, but eventually went with VENI, then FLEET. Soon after, got HOLYTOLEDO, which got m&e rollin. Still, took a looong time to solve this puppy.
I reckon POOH is a Disney character, in the sense that Long John Silver is a Disney character. But for pantsless Disney characters, my first thought was U can't beat all them Disney DUCKs. And they are *original* Disney characters.
staff weeject pick: YEE. YEE has a history of only bein clued for its YEE-haw role, which always makes it kinda a gimme.
Oh POOH! I thought BOOK TITLE would work, but ABUZZ and SKIMPY were my TRAGIC FLAWs in the NE. Then APIAN came to mind, then -- ah SCANTY! -- and I was done.
Medium, solved in a sort of hunt and peck fashion: I wandered the area probing for possibilities and picking up the occasional kernel (THUD, GYNT, AMOK), some of which had to be discarded (MAn, atl), but not getting enough substance to see the longer entries. Eventually WANNABES and ADVISORY helped me get into the NW and erasing atl for LGA aptly got me ERASES x EUROPE and access to the SE. Favorites: the excitement of HOLY TOLEDO and calm of THERE THERE, the joke of NO RELATION, and the clue for !A ("Let's see, what are protagonists proud of?" - got me good on that one).
All the talk about POOH made me think. Someone should write a novel about a pantless LEGO PERSON named Jones (NO RELATION to THAD) who plays the trumpet and comes to life when he drinks MELLO YELLO, then runs AMOK and decides to UP AND LEAVE in his JEEP for a long SPA WEEKEND. “I WANNA BE A Disney Character” would make a great BOOK TITLE.
Actually had time today to finish puzzle AND comment. The puzzle was definitely not in my wheelhouse and because I tend to solve the puzzle in horizontal “thirds” my first entry was GYNT. I finally started making headway in the middle third of the puzzle with ANTMAN.
Hand up joining the legion that does NOT like POOH clued as a DISNEY character! However, I Googled the list of “Disney characters” and it appears that if Disney made a movie that portrays a character previously created by an author…it’s considered a “Disney character” which includes Peter Pan and Bambi. Crazy me, my first thought was Donald Duck. (Hi @Andrew)
Also, if one can believe Google, Delta has 47 hubs. C’mon. I’d like to know who amongst us doesn’t immediately think of Atlanta’s Hartsfield-Jackson airport as THE Delta hub! @Taylor Slow…I know Detroit is listed as a Delta hub but never thought of it as such.
If one has never played Risk, one has never known the experience of going for weeks without speaking to one of your closest friends over his cut-throat and calculated betrayal of you in Irkutsk.
I can't imagine going through a life without that.
Risk was my absolute favorite board game during childhood. The game pieces were polished stained wood - not the cheapy plastic pieces that they have today. I have such fond memories of settling in for an afternoon of Risk on a rainy or snowy day!
A BIT of a slow start in the NW, but wasn't ready to UP AND LEAVE until I'd sorted it out. Made a DENT with ALAN & GYNT; they were my stepping stones to HOLY TOLEDO, and Bob was my uncle.
Always seem to have trouble with VENI, e.g. wanting VEdI, so A BIT of a lucky guess for LEAN over LEAD.
MELLO YELLO was also a challenge; not knowing it, nor being sure of YEE / hEE or MLS. MELLO sounded right, but hELLO didn't ring true, so YELLO it was.
Being a 'LORD of the Rings' & 'Breaking Bad' / 'Better Call Saul' fan was helpful. Giancarlo Esposito is a terrific actor.
Always good to see Claudette COLVIN, who helped pave the way for Rosa Parks' more publicized 'bus seat' defiance.
The granddaughters are big LEGO fans, so I guess they could be called LEGO PERSONS.
@pmdm (9:33 AM)
Thx for your reasoned para re: POOH! :)
"Winnie the Pooh (Disney character)" (Wikipedia)
"Winnie the Pooh (also know as Pooh Bear, or simply Pooh) is a fictional teddy bear created by English author A. A. Milne and English artist and book illustrator E. H. Shepard, is one of the most popular characters adapted for film and television by The Walt Disney Company. Disney first received certain licensing rights to the Winnie the Pooh stories, characters, and trademarks from Stephen Slesinger, Inc. and the estate of A. A. Milne in 1961." (Wikipedia)
Very much enjoyed today's journey! :) ___ Peace 🕊 🇺🇦 ~ Compassion ~ Tolerance ~ Kindness to all 🙏
I remember visiting my future in-laws with my girlfriend back in the mid 80s. They lived in a small town in Iowa, near lots of farmland. As we stepped out of the car, a breeze came through. She inhaled deeply and said “Iowa gold!”
You know how you fix the "green paint"yness of LEGO PERSON?
You use the actual name of the thing, which is MINIFIGURE. Guess what? It fits in the space. Work the rest of your answers around that and use the actual name of the thing. It's had an official name for 50+ years.
I might even forgive the also-incorrect "Legos" if we can lose LEGO PERSON forever.
In other news, I think Rex and I might be polar opposites. I'll struggle and nearly DNF a puzzle, then pop over to the blog and see it rated "easy" - which usually means that it was full of authors' names and rappers. Then I'll breeze through one like today (other than having MINIFIGURE in the SW and just *knowing* it was correct) and see "medium challenging". Weird. I guess we all have our own wheelhouses. For me, go easy on rap stars and sportsball players and I'm going to have a good time.
I haven't read all of you but I'm guessing two answers will cause the agita angst kerfuffle. Dear POOH...when did Disney take your pants off? You belong in the arms of A.A. Milne. LGA is a hub of Delta but their main one is ATL. They are headquartered there. AA, I believe, uses LGA more frequently that DL... Small stuff that bugged me. Otherwise....I actually flew through this. There were PREGNANT pauses with COLVIN and SCANTY. I thought of skimpy first. No one should wear speedos any way. I didn't know Claudette COLVIN but now I do. ION looked out of place and MELLO YELLO sounds like something you do in the snow. Then we can talk about JEEP....Yikes...what a very long clue for that good old general purpose vehicle... The NW was my easy entrance. THUD ROPE and ALAN...plunk in. I even got ANT MAN and EUROPE even though I don't know the Marvel Universe nor have I ever played Risk. I learned that IOWA has a boat load of pigs and CRAP is not what you do in the WC..instead, it's a losing dice roll. Shouldn't there be an S at the ed? Loved seeing GUS in his "Better Call Saul" role. He is perfect for the job. Let's see what ELSE? I'm always relatively happy when I finish a Friday as quickly as this. And yet....I didn't have a serious AHA moment. The long answers were interesting but I uttered more HUH'S than AHA's. Not a good sign. LEGO PERSON is really a thing? Walk the pups time....
Enjoyed this one a lot from start to finish. Especially nice clues for BAD LIARS, BOOK TITLES, and NO RELATION
The clue for 16A brought back memories of watching Donald Duck cartoons as a kid. I always wondered why he had no problem being pantsless when wearing his sailor-suit top and cap, but whenever he was caught naked, he would immediately cover his lower half in embarrassment. I guess there was a TRAGIC FLAW in his logic. Maybe someone should buy him a Speedo.
Did anyone complain about NOT A PEEP? I will. "Shut your mouth!" you tell someone *after* they've said something (usually something surprising or objectionable). "Not a peep!" you tell someone *before* they can talk back you (or when you just want total silence). They don't equate in my book.
I fully support all the other complaints in the Comments. Pooh is Milne, speedos are skimpy, lego persons don't exist (I'll take the commentariat's word for that), the 16-word JEEP clue is the height of idiocy. I also thumb my nose at NO RELATION. It's an idiomatic expression, usually said aloud, but the better answer to the clue as written is NOT RELATED.
That should say "...talk back *to* you". Blogger's comment box display changed about a week ago and it doesn't fit the frame on my phone anymore so it's really hard to see what I'm typing.
I sometimes have heard HOSED used as a synonym for, well, BAKED, and I knew it meant that you were in a bad situation. But I didn’t know until today that it meant that someone had put you in that situation!
Is POOH sans pants in the original Milne version? If not, then *pantsless" POOH is, in fact, a Disney character, as are a singing prince in "Snow White" and a dancing chimney sweep in "Mary Poppins."
@MetroGnome 12:24 - yes, POOH is pantsless in the original. In most of the stories, he is naked. In a couple of them - both set in winter - he wears a read shirt, presumably for warmth, but still no pants.
WINNIE-THE-POOH wears no pants, in the original Milne stories. Why should he? Bears don't wear pants. He loves hunny and lives under the name of Sanders. And is surprisingly charming and talkative, for a bear. A unique ursine, no?
Entirely a Milne creature -- Disney was merely licensed to use his image and tell his story. Hopefully, the Milne HEIRS had a good AGENT and made lots of money off of old Walt.
As for LEGO people, we always called them PERSONS or people. They are remarkably skilled, able to drive cars and buses, and sometimes can even be engineers on trains.
I finished the puzzle with no lookups, and no real snags on the way. I did have Thu before TUE. And never heard of MELLOYELLO. YEE could have been HEE, so that was a kealoa for me.
I wonder where HOLY TOLEDO came from. Maybe I could find the answer in the OED?
If it's any consolation, the original A.A. Milne story and thus the original Winnie the Pooh characters entered the public domain in the US as of 1/1/2002. That means Disney no longer has exclusive US rights, and anyone can create new works utilizing the characters (except, for now, Tigger, who was added in a later story).
Disney does however retain the rights to its own versions of the characters, including, apparently, the trademarked red shirt that Pooh wears in its version. So they will continue to make money off of it for quite a while longer. They just won't be able sue anyone else for doing their own thing with the characters.
Lots of great answers today. Somehow I got TRAGIC FLAW from the clue and T--GI-----.
Typeovers: AVIAN before APIAN (I always do that!), and HEE before YEE (MELLOW HELLO sounded plausible). And ILYA before OLGA; turns out I was thinking of Ilya Kuryakin who was the Russian character in The Man from Uncle TV show in the 1960s.
@Kam C. Hatka 11:01am, so funny, and so true! I lived in an apartment with 5 other guys and we spent so much time at Risk. (Hey, "at Risk"!)
[Spelling Bee: yd 0. @Barbara S, I got your last word in probably the first 20 seconds;for some reason I always recognize its noun forms right away. But ironically my last word was this 4er which uses the same letters!]
The NOT A WORD/WEAK cross also got me and I had a very hard time puzzling my way out of it. Ugh. Only when it turned to WOOR did I catch on that WORD couldn’t be right.
Hi Claire! I really enjoyed your puzzle today! Just enough "easy" sprinkled in (like salt!) which gave me a few letters to work with for the long answers 😊 Some of my faves: UP AND LEAVE, THERE THERE, I OWE YOU ONE, MELLO YELLO (even tho it tastes like CRAP - I just like the sound of the two truncated words together!), BAD LIARS (good one with including LIES in the grid!), NOT A PEEP (altho my mom always added "another" - NOT another PEEP out of you! Yeah, good times when I was a mouthy teen!). Fave words in the clues: skeedaddle, axolotls, pantsless, schooner, no-goodnik (another mom word that was not directed at me!), Risk (that game rules!). And if AMOK were in every puzzle, I'd be happy as a clam! Thanks again for the fun, not freaky, Friday 🤗
I think my only objection to today's xword is the word SCANTY. I am reasonably confident that scanty is not an actual word. All in all though, it was a fine Friday.
There are three "Holy Toledo" theories I'm aware of:
1 – Toledo is supposedly the city in Spain where Christianity first took hold and became dominant. Before then, it was also an important nexus for both Judaism and Islam. Hence, it was referred to as the Holy City of Toledo.
2 – In the early years of the 20th Century, Toledo, Ohio had a reputation as being a very religious, church-dominated city where entertainment like Vaudeville (and, later, movies) was banned on Sundays and on various holy days during the year. It became known sarcastically as "Holy Toledo" among troupers who traveled the circuit in those days.
3 – Paradoxically, in the 1920s and '30s, it was also alleged that Toledo was a sanctuary for gangsters, who bought off the police for protection. Since this provided a sanctuary, the gangsters called the city by the code name "Holy Toledo."
Initial reaction was that this TV Guide trivia quiz landed with a THUD. I rated it 1 on a scale of 1 to 5. In other words, CRAP.
Once I finished (without errors, to be clear to those with alternative defintions of "finished"), I felt somewhat more kindly disposed, mostly because of the long down answers, though I thought they put a heavy strain on the quality of the acrosses.
To LEGO PERSON, I say, LEGO WOMAN, LEGO MAN, LEGO CAMERA, LEGO TV.
First time here so just testing to see if this gets through. A couple of things: VENI Vidi Vicious is a fabulous title for an album. Don’t know much about the Hives but that’s enough to make me admire them. Also, everybody else has covered the good stuff so I’ll agree with all those who thought it was a fine puzzle.
I went back to the drawings from '43 In the book from my childhood I needed to see And Pooh was as naked as naked could be! The bear was all bare!
Oh, yes, he was "pantless" -- he certainly was! But also most shirtless, and that is because A bear's not required to cover his fuzz -- A bear should be bare.
So Pooh in a shirt is a blasphemous fault. (We know his red shirt was selected by Walt.) "Oh, bother!" Pooh cries and I cry "Oy gavalt!" -- 'Cuz a bear should be bare.
But most people don't work for Lego so they can call these creations what they want. This way it is less of a plug for Lego. My complaint is person is blah, as people on this blog say "green paint". In any case, if you use a lot of bricks, and the question did refer to bricks not prepackaged figures, you can create a big statue like I saw in the Lego 5th Avenue store in NYC.
Hey, friends. Thanks so much for all the well wishes. Feeling much better. Out of the hospital and on the mend. You all kept me entertained and educated as always.
My internal clock is 100% on the fritz, and it takes me a long time to get this done these days - it’s the constant naps! Gonna be a process. I got a card from the 5 year old son of good friends who saves jokes for me. Here’s a good one: What do cows put on hot dogs? MOOstard. I love kid jokes! Watching young people develop a real sense of humor fascinates me. Telling jokes is such a barometer for all kinds of human development. PJ has been such a fave of mine from birth (his birth that is - sheesh, can barely write sentences)!.
Oh, the puzzle! Well, I blew an epic streak last week while just not up to anything more difficult than getting out of bed for only absolutely “necessary things” (yeah, those things), I still have only a very little band width, and today was tough.
All caught up now, but wow, this one took me all day. And I mean all day. Started at about 7:30 and well, here I am. So glad the opinions on the scale of difficulty today varied so widely. Makes me feel much less stupid. I had almost zero connection with Claire. I got a few in the SW: ETHOS, LIES and ONE D. Cannot tell y’all how chuffed I am to have realized the “dimensional” aspect of the clue for a change instead of banging my head against a wall and screaming “What the heck does ONED (or the worse one) TWOD mean?!” I mean, you can say “ONED up” (barely), I supposed, but a couple weeks ago I confessed that I had no idea what TWOD (pronounced in my addled peabrain “twahd”) means. HooBOY!
Astonishingly, I finished this today, finally getting a tiny bit of consistent momentum going when I saw that POOH BAKED (a) SCANTY LORD! Those up top gabe me some much needed letters to work with. These “chunky” puzzles that are like several little puzzles are usually hard anyway. Today’s was a marathon.
But I finished. And am so happy to be here, and breathing on my own, to do just that.
This was definitely a classic Saturday challenge for me, but mostly for the northeast corner. Had no idea about ACROBAT's origin, couldn't remember spelling of ABBACY (thought it was "abbesy"), had wrong answer in for CHINSEATTAS, which kept me from seeing GOWHOLEHOG for a while. Finally getting RAIN got me BOTHER, then DEBRA, eventually got it all filled in.
A rare day in which OFF ranked a puzzle tougher than I did. It played about medium for me; did take ABIT of gray cell work, as a [SPA]WEEKEND puzzle should, but no gnashing of teeth.
Some nice lively fill, and nothing egregiously unfair. Birdie.
IOWEYOUONE, ONED. Only wrote over NOTAword, like others, but other than that found it rather easy, unlike OFL. ALAN Page was the NFL MVP as a defensive player for the MN Vikings, quite rare. He went on to get his law degree (from the same law school I attended) and become a MN Supreme Court justice. He is involved in various philanthropic works and has also become an author of children's books, I have an autographed copy. I have spoken with him and shook his hand. ALAN Page is a wonderful human being. This world could use a lot more thoughtful, generous people like him. Wordle birdie.
ReplyDeleteThought the Delta hub at 38D would be atl, confirmed by PREGNANCY PoLicy at 35A. Turns out I had the wrong definition in mind for "firm".
Guessed NEWTS at 31D, then took it out because I thought NCIS mostly aired at Ten. I OWE YOU ONE set me straight.
utah before IOWA at 18A made all the crosses hard to see and is the reason I finished in the NE.
Overall Medium for a Friday.
And LGA is not a Delta hub
DeleteLGA is, in fact, a Delta hub.
Deletehttps://news.delta.com/transformation-continues-deltas-new-york-city-hubs
I had NOTAWORD/WEAK just like Rex, but felt like the Risk one just HAD to be EUROPE. The NW was the toughest section for sure, even with the gimmes GYNT and ITD. I considered THUD for 1D at first but never actually filled it in until I had HOLYTOLEDO and UPANDLEAVE (great stacked answers!). Excellent misdirection at 1A.
ReplyDeleteMy first guess at 18A was... OAHU. Luckily APIAN was easy so I fixed it quickly.
Best personal time for Friday. Right on my wavelength for some strange reason. Did spend two yeats in Iowa so that helped.
ReplyDeleteAny puzzle that has holy Toledo in it is okay by me.
ReplyDeleteI object to POOH being clued as a Disney character. POOH and his friends had a long existence as lovely written stories with sweet illustrations before Disney got ahold of them and made them cartooney, which they didn’t deserve.
ReplyDeleteI agree!
DeleteAgree! Had the same thought.
Deletethird! the hundred acre wood denizens are literature not disney
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DeleteThank you! Absolutely agree with you!!!
DeleteIt really riles me to see the great POOH reduced to “Disney character”.
ReplyDeleteOne of those rare days when Rex struggles with a puzzle that I just flew through.
I had LEAD for the political advantage and no clue on the VENI, VEDI, VINI, MOE situation, so an unfortunate DNF there. LEGO PERSON seems a little green paint-ish (how would Play-Doh person fly as an answer, or Muppet as the Sesame Street resident - those things are Muppets, correct?).
ReplyDeleteI could definitely do without ANTMAN and pantsless Disney characters, but it takes all types to make the CrossWorld go round. If you go away for a SPA WEEKEND, make sure someone is available to feed your pet AXOTOLIS and NEWTS.
Alan Page followed his football career with a career in law, culminating in a stint on the Minnesota Supreme Court and does a lot of good word in the space of children's literacy and education. I often forget he was a football player.
ReplyDeletevery happy to see alan page mentioned. i had his football card, but he’s much more than a football player
DeleteNineteen mystery clue/entries put me in DNF territory. I had to look up MELLOYELLO (I don't think we have it out here), OLGA, EUROPE.
ReplyDeleteI think that some of clues are incorrect. The game is called craps, but an individual roll isn't called a crap. LGA is not a Delta hub. SPA WEEKEND is not a thing. Not enough sparkle to compensate. No me gusta.
I gave a side eye at LGA being a Delta hub, too, @mathgent. But Travel & Leisure, a trusted source for all technical matters, says:
DeleteWhile Atlanta is Delta's largest hub, it uses several other hubs within the United States: Boston, Detroit, Los Angeles, Minneapolis-St. Paul, New York-JFK, New York-LaGuardia, Salt Lake City, and Seattle. Delta also has international hubs in Amsterdam, London, Paris, Seoul, Mexico City, and Tokyo.
POOH is *NOT* a Disney character in any way, manner, shape, or form.
ReplyDeleteYou mean besides the fact that he is literally a character in many Disney productions? Is the Little Mermaid not a Disney character either? Cinderella? Certainly they are not JUST Disney characters, and I can understand the consternation at Pooh being clued as one, but to say he’s not in any way a Disney character makes no sense.
DeleteRan into a couple brick walls last night but managed to finish this AM, another reminder that sleep helps mental functioning. Stubbornly refused to let the Delta hub be anything but ATL, and also erroneously thought frogs or toads were more appropriate cousins of axolotls, so that part in the East took awhile. Back in the NW, ALAN was a gimme having grown up with the
ReplyDeletePurple People Eaters, (thanks again @JC66). ALAN Page went from his NFL days to become a justice on Minnesota's Supreme Court. GYNT was also a gimme, but I was almost as certain that THUD, bolo, and irk were correct starts and ends to those long acrosses, so that just looked awful. Besides nobody expectedly skedaddles so that qualifier threw me and if I'm just going to up and leave I might skedaddle or i might just slowly saunter out of the place. And down in the SW I have gender associations with figurine, rightly or wrongly, so PERSON took forever. All of which is to say I liked it early on, got frustrated in those places and went to sleep, then enjoyed the finish this AM. Happy Friday, all.
When you course through a combination of pack-a-punch long answers and I-dare-you-to-get-me clues, you are, IMO, experiencing a very Good Friday.
ReplyDeleteGlorious long answers like I OWE YOU ONE, THERE THERE, NO RELATION, TRAGIC FLAW, UP AND LEAVE, and NOT A PEEP. Those last three, by the way, are NYT debut answers.
Vicious clues (and I love vicious clues that are fair) like [Rather] for A BIT. Clues out of my wheelhouse. Clues/answers that made me dig so deliriously deep that I remember the struggle post-puzzle, i.e., I so vividly recall my “Could it be THAD?” moment and how tenuously I placed that answer down, and how good it felt to have pulled that one out of my cranial haystack.
I marked four clues as especially good, but it turns out that three of them were used before in puzzles in major venues (yes, I am a crossnerd). But that original one – [They’re easy to read, typically] – for BAD LIARS, well, that one is prime.
You gave me the odyssey I hope for on Friday, Claire, in this jewel shimmering with skill and talent. Thank you, and I so hope to see your byline again soon!
A very enjoyable Saturday puzzle, come a day early. NW was the last to fall. HOLY TOLEDO, that was tough to see!
ReplyDeleteAnd oh yes, add me to the complaints re: POOH being a 'Disney character'. @Richardf8, saw yours after posting, thanks for chiming in on Page. Remarkable career and person.
ReplyDeleteThis puzzle peaked in the NW - all downhill after that. The singular CRAP is brutal as is the entire ONE D corner. MAG, SCANTY, TUE - the list continues.
ReplyDeleteAgree with others on the POOH clue - like the rest of the grid obtuse and without nuance. My neighbor is the head mechanic for Delta at LGA so no issue with that other than there are 3 or 4 larger Delta hubs - ATL, LAX that were close to fitting.
Solved this in normal Friday time - but it was a 1 or 2.
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Why is POOH reduced to a Disney character? Pretty sure he had no pants in the original books, long before a movie, or whatever Disney creation, depicted him
ReplyDeleteOlga Kurylenko is an actor not an MCU character.
ReplyDeletehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olga_Kurylenko
I was confused by the distinction between actress Michelle Williams and singer Michelle Williams because I've seen actress Michelle Williams sing. (In Cabaret, in 2014. She was very good.) (I wanted to post a video of her, but the only thing I could find on YouTube was a bootleg of the whole show, and I won't promote the theft of actors' work.)
ReplyDeleteLol it’s a play from 2014, pretty sure they’re not missing out on any ticket sales from people watching that video
DeleteA tough one, but I enjoyed the struggle. OK, except maybe in the NW corner. Had exactly the same problem with TRAGIC FLAW that Rex mentioned: I read the clue as something a protagonist would be proud of, and I got nowhere. And I didn't think of ROPE as "a bit of cowboy gear" until I had ROP and figured that 19A had to be DENT. Which I still don't get. Any help out there for that clue?
ReplyDeleteBut everything else was chewy and gettable without so much gnashing of teeth. And a few were so easy that I didn't think they could be right--BOOK TITLE and LORD, for example.
@mathgent: LaGuardia is, indeed, a Delta hub. That one stumped me too, because I fly out of DTW, also a Delta hub. But there are 12--one dozen!--official Delta hubs in the US! I thought there were two--Atlanta and Detroit.
And I agree with everyone else about POOH. A.A. Milne and E.H. Shepard. The original illustrations are so charming and evocative. I remember when The Mouse staked its claim in the Hundred Acre Wood and I saw the Disney illustrations of those characters that I'd loved since I had to be read to. There is no comparison. The Disney Pooh looks like a middle-aged, middle-management fat guy.
Make a dent in the pile of work.
DeleteJJK is correct - POOH IS NOT A DISNEY CHARACTER!!!!
ReplyDeleteTell that to Luke Skywalker.
DeleteAnd Spider-Man, et al
DeleteAs a Lego fan, there is no such thing as a LEGO PERSON. Got annoyed with that, because I put in minifigure until I reread the clue. Otherwise, tricky yet enjoyable grid!
ReplyDeleteCount me in the "easy for me" crowd. About all of my first guesses on the long answers were right and only a couple of write overs, PEEP instead of WURD was about the worst, and that wasn't bad.
ReplyDeleteBreezy Friday, CR. Could've Resisted a bit more, but lots of fun, for which thanks.
And now it's a lovely day and I'm going skiing.
Kurylenko of "Black Widow"... the Black Widow part was unnecessary.
ReplyDeleteThere aren't a lot of Kurylenkos out there in Hollywood.
Olga Kurylenko is a pretty big name, probably the most famous current Olga out there. Quantum of Solace? Hitman? Oblivion? These were not small movies. :)
This is a great puzzle IMO. I love hard puzzles but you can still get it. Not a bunch of “NATICKS” aka references I do not know. This was all things I could eventually get and it took me more than my usual five to seven minutes. Even Colvin came together and Veni Vidi vicious was adorable. I just felt great admiration for the constructor there was not one answer that was a THUD or a dud.
ReplyDeleteLoved the bookends of THUD on the West Coast and THAD on the East Coast 😏
DeleteI'm here mainly to add my voice to the chorus of those who are Greatly Offended by cluing POOH as a Disney character. So wrong (morally and aesthetically, at least).
ReplyDeleteI was amused at some of Rex's sticking points and how they lined up with mine. Rex: "Claudette COLV-no idea" ; me: "Claudette -VIN" and no idea. Rex: "I struggled to get SCANTY from SC-", me: "I struggled to get SCANTY from -TY".
@mathgent: IMO your clue accuracy complaint is one-third correct. LGA is, in fact, a Delta hub, as a quick web search can confirm. There are multiple sites/articles with titles like "20 best SPA WEEKENDs" so I conclude that is also an actual thing. I don't know much about the game of craps, but I think I'm with you on that one. CRAP without the "s" appears in the phrase "crap out" but I can't make that usage fit the clue.
I didn't realize OLGA what's-her-name was a Marvel character or that would have bugged me too. Just saw "Slavic name in fiction" matching O__A and popped in the rest.
Pooh is a Disney character - at Disney parks:
ReplyDeletehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winnie_the_Pooh(Disney_character)
This was one of the very rare Friday puzzles that I was able to stroll through - if 23 minutes is a stroll. Had duck for POOH and left a lot of blank squares on my first run-through. But kept filling in stuff as I went from across to down etc. Really nice puzzle. Thank you Claire Rimkus and Will Shortz.
Finished with a cheat. I shouldn't have had to cheat, but YEE before "haw" is simply bad. A laugh is "hee-haw," not "yee-haw." And I agree that Winnie the Pooh isn't a Disney figure, but a character from A.A. Milne.
ReplyDeleteYEE HAW is commonly heard in certain parts of the country - especially when cattle are being herded!
DeleteI quit watching the Marvel movies like 15 years ago, but OLGA Kurylenko was a gimme. First, she was a Bond girl ("Quantum of Solace") but she was also in "Centurion" not long after and "November Man" a few years after that.
ReplyDeleteBut to be honest, most of what's she's done has been has been modern B-movie action crud. ("Momentum"? Hard shudder.) But she's Ukrainian and beautiful, and so very memorable if that's what you pay attention to.
Anyhow, I got the bulk of this in reasonable time, but the NW resisted. But once I figured out 2D ("Hmmmm. It's not SPUR, and it's not CHAP.", it eventually fell into place.
Maybe had a little trouble getting into the NE because I initially tried SKIMPY for 23A.
Embarrassed that it took as long as it did to get 14D because I have at least two albums on which he was (co-) band leader.
At first I'm thinking: Why in the world would anyone be "proud" of their TRAGIC FLAW? But then I realized that the word "pride" was being used in the sense of "Pride goeth before a FLAW."
ReplyDeleteI didn't realize Disney had appropriated POOH. I thought POOH was an A.A. Milne character. When was there a Disney takeover?
Where does a PREGNANCY PILLOW go? You wouldn't lie on your stomach, now, would you? Does your neck need extra support? Your back? Your legs? Truth to tell, I've never heard of a PREGNANCY PILLOW.
With no crosses, I immediately wanted SKIMPY for the Speedo. But SCANTY is almost as good.
Maybe we should have a new Marvel Universe duo: ANTMAN and the LEGO PERSON.
I found this quite easy in the West and somewhat challenging in the East -- making for a Medium Friday solve. And, once again, too much pop culture for my liking -- though I really did like the NO RELATION clue.
Disney takeover of Pooh was in 1961, but the original book just passed into the public domain (in the US) last year! The first major result of this was a horror film called “Winnie the Pooh: Blood and Honey,” which came out last month and has grossed over $4,000,000 worldwide on a reported $100,000 budget.
DeleteI agree that Pooh is not a Disney character. I also think it was Julius Caesar who said VENI vidi vinci; invoking some 23-year-old album by some group I never heard of annoyed me. Not that I had trouble with the answer...
ReplyDeleteAsked my thirteen-year-old daughter, “Four letters for ‘Pantsless Disney character’ ”?
ReplyDelete“Pooh?”, she offered.
“Poo is three letters and not a Disney character,” I corrected.
Made her day.
Amy: POOH is a Milne character. Otherwise, found this engaging and fairly easy. Had Ten instead of TUE for NCIS but got straightened out soon enough. Anyone know if 51A (JEEP) is true?
ReplyDelete@Amy 9:00
DeleteAn old "Vietnam Era Vet" friend many years ago explained it to me as: General Purpose vehicle, or GP, sounds like Jeep. But someone here will know!
Found it very easy for a Friday although ended with a DNF at LEAN VENI cross. I had it as LEAD VEDI and that's good enough for me.
ReplyDeleteI had the exact same mistake!
DeleteAdding my voice to all the other Pooh responses, Poo is a Milne character that Disney mad a cartoon about. He is NOT a Disney character. How gard would it have been to clue that correctly?
ReplyDeleteOtherwise an enjoyable puzzle. Never heard of Mello Yellow except in the Donovan song, though.
MELLO YELLO is a Mountain Dew WANNABE 😂
DeleteI did just fine with this puzzle – no lookups, finished in good time – but I had trouble getting started. Reading only across clues, I got nothing until VENI at 20A, inferable, even though I didn’t know the album [“____ Vidi Vicious”]. Then I got WIT at 22A [“The salt of conversation, not the food,” per William Hazlitt] and finally ANTMAN at 25A. Like Rex, I don’t know the Marvel stuff, but “Big little” in the clue gave it away (hey, that was an echo of an earlier-week puz). And I also knew Lindsay LOHAN at 32A. That was finally enough to give me a couple of the downs in the area, ALPHA and WANNABES, and then I started slowly grasping PREGNANCY as the first word in the grid-spanning 35A. So, it was all rather halting, one-step-at-a-time stuff and not very whooshy.
ReplyDeleteI did the NOT-A-word thing (37D) but, happily, didn’t think of “weak” as a possible answer to [1 on a scale of 1 to 5, maybe]. And, btw, when I was in elementary school, our report cards used a 1-5 scale, but 1 was excellent and 5 was very poor, or maybe even failure – don’t know ‘cause I never got any (yay, me). But “word” wasn’t helping with any of the acrosses there, so I did some brain-wracking and came up with PEEP as a plausible substitute.
I did the lower two-thirds of the puzzle first and finished up in the NW and NE. At that point I had to face that immensely confusing clue for 1A and, like Rex, I thought it was asking me for something the protagonist was proud of. Huh? But I got the crossing answers FLEET and WOE, finally saw ADVISORY and then realized were we talking about a FLAW. Oh.
Among the long answers, I liked BOOK TITLES, I OWE YOU ONE, TRAGIC FLAW, HOLY TOLEDO, BAD LIARS and THERE, THERE. When I saw the clue for 28D [People, e.g., informally], I already had MA_ and thought if the answer to this is MAn, thousands of solvers including me are going to hit the roof. Glad to discover the periodical angle. I liked that clue for DENT [Beginning of a large amount of work]. @Taylor Slow -- I took it as:
"Have you started the so-and-so project yet?"
"Yes, I've made a DENT in it."
The Trekkie in me liked FLEET clued with starships. It would have been nice to see GO LOW clued with the Michelle Obama quotation. Don’t know anything about CRAPs, but do I take it that the game is named after the very thing you don’t want to happen? Odd.
UNICLUES:
1. Piglet’s exclamation upon discovering that his best friend is working out, on a diet and has given up hunny.
2. What the young James T. Kirk decided to do when he was being chased by cops for drunk and disorderly, realized he was tired of corn and pigs, and felt the stars beckoning.
3. Characterization of the Oscar Wilde wannabe who’s such a bore at dinner parties.
4. The person who’s actually behind all the diva’s outrageous demands.
5. Saturday and Sunday at a facility that offers nothing but mud baths morning, noon and night.
6. The heavy tread of the meanest, toughest, scariest muppet on the Street.
7. Sympathy offered to Mr. Alda when he lost the Oscar for Best Supporting Actor.
1. “HOLY TOLEDO, POOH!”
2. UP AND LEAVE IOWA
3. SCANTY WIT
4. HER AMOK AGENT
5. ONE-D SPA WEEKEND
6. THUD ALPHA ELMO
7. “ALAN – THERE, THERE.”
[yd, 0. @okanaganer, my last word was a plural of the sort that brought you down the other day. Note to self: must watch out for those less usual plural endings. Also – it’s always a CRAPshoot which “UN” words they’ll accept. I was really hoping for UNADDLED.]
Who also protested that POOH is not a Disney character? ABSOLUTELY EVERYONE ON THIS BLOG, it seems! Which is a very good and just thing for both POOH and A.A. Milne...but...
ReplyDeleteWhen, like me, you're neither a late night solver nor an early riser and when you write your first comment before reading anyone else's, you're going to get "scooped" again and again. And while being scooped by one person is ignominious enough, getting scooped by 25 people is almost unbearable. I wanted so badly to defend you, A.A., but you didn't really need me -- did you?
Found this easy for a Friday. And 51A was the most Mondayish clue I have ever seen for a Friday. It would have been easy for a Monday. It is spelled right out for you JEEP. GEEZ. Had SkimpY before SCANTY and monopolY before ADVISORY. Nice puzzle, no real trouble spots.
ReplyDeleteHaving nicelydone rather than IOWEYOUONE led to all kinds of dead ends and ultimately a DNF.
ReplyDeleteLORD was borg, BADLIARS was BIgLIARS, CRAP (can it be singular?) was krap (hey, it could be!) to make a “skimpy” Speedo.
Man, I made a mess of it (nicely done!). Even initially had Duck in for pants-less Diz character but figured they couldn’t just use Donald’s last name, could they?
Anyway, fun Friday that threw me for many loops…
I could not believe the JEEP clue was in a Friday NYT puzzle. Seems more suitable for an airport EZ PUZZLE book.
ReplyDeleteHey! Not all of us immediately looked the phrase and thought "acronym" 😂
DeleteHey All !
ReplyDeleteMost of puz flowed smoothly and rather quickly for a Friday, until I came to a screeching halt in the whole NE area. Just Could. Not. come up with anything! Wanted CBS for TUE forever, thinking TWOS for CRAP (it CRAPS , not a single CRAP. A single CRAP is... well, you know...), for some reason BAKED not entering the ole brain. Had onpot, litup, saying "what is happening!?"
Broke down and Googed for axoloti cousins. Had the ___TS, so threw in NEWTS, getting me TUE, then ION, and eventually finishing the puz. And still had a FWE! Argh! Had VEdI/LEAd, which really sucks, because I had the N in there originally, but changed it to the D because LEAN sounds stupid for it's clue. You're in the LEAD, not in the LEAN. Stupid politics.
BTW, if you Goog axoloti, you'll see they are rather cute looking salamanders. Wonder how they would be in a fish tank.
So a good FriPuz, until that JERK of a NE corner. 😁
BigLIARS for BADLIARS writeover. Think that was it for ERASES. Oh, also had WANabeES. Kealoa with the "___-haw" clue. Write in the _EE, and wait.
Hope y'all have a SPA WEEKEND.
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DeleteI call foul on POOH clued as a Disney character!!
ReplyDeleteYears ago I worked with a guy who used HOSED as clued here every. single. day.
Never played Risk but clear from crosses. Know zip about football. So many other ALANs to choose from, sigh.
But in this case, ALAN Page is a goodnik and worthy of inclusion in the NYTCW 😊
DeleteGee, I found this puzzle nicer to do than most Friday puzzles, but then again I research the answers. Anyway, I did kike the puzzle.
ReplyDeleteA thought about POOH. If that character is a character in a Disney movie, then I guess you would say he is a Disney character. If you consider the book the movie was based on, he would be better thought of as a character of those who put the book together. Bit once you appear in a Disney movie, I guess that adds to your resume in a way that crossword constructors can make use of. Especially late in the week. As Z was wont to point out, even if a clue is not the most apt for the entry, especially in late week puzzles, if it has some low rate of truth, that's good enough for crosswords. As the week proceeds, the rules for the clues get more loose. As opposed to those who comment here.
Uniclues
ReplyDelete1) TSA hires Queen Bee (a Marvel villain) for NYC assignment
2) Cry from someone who doesn't think much of the human race
3) "That crane is swinging right towards your head!!"
1) APIAN LGA JERK
2) "MORE LEGO PERSON!"
3) ADVISORY: GO LOW
From the other day...thank you for answering my question about the uniclue originator. I forgot to post as Visho and asked as "anonymous. "
DeletePREGNANCYleaves, atl, Thu, SkimpY, LEAd, Atad. This one made me work. Good puzzle though.
ReplyDeleteA decent Friday puzzle with the exception of two bad clues - Pooh is an A.A. Milne character not a Disney character and jerk means obnoxious not bad, evil or criminal.
ReplyDeleteAs an absolutely obsessive Lego nut (happy AFOL day tomorrow!) no one calls them Lego People / Lego Person - they are mini figs - minifigures if you want to spell it out. Lots of people have SigFigs - signature figures made to look like themselves. There are also mini dolls in the Friends line. But a Lego Person would be me. A human into Lego. Minifigs are the toys.
ReplyDelete@Mike Herlihy (7:40), Taylor Slow (7:57), Eater of Sole (8:25). I saw a couple of lists of Delta hubs on the internet that didn't include LGA. "Hubs" are defined to be centers, as in a wheel. Delta has 12 centers?
ReplyDeleteI forgot to mention another clunker today. LEGOPERSON.
No quibbles with your characterization of the puzzle as closer to a Saturday than a Friday but "Better Caul Saul" is the "Best show of this century" LOL cmon man what are you smoking? It's not even better than the show that spawned it!
ReplyDeleteFirst of all, appreciate Rex’s providing the backstory on the Claudette COLVIN clue. So inspiring. Hard to fathom that the determination of one person - and a teenager at that - resulted in such a profound impact on our society. But there you have it.
ReplyDeleteI thought this was an outstanding Friday. As I studied the blank grid before beginning, I almost drooled in anticipation of filling in those lovely long stacks in the corners, the long downs in the corners, and that beautiful spanner smack dab in the middle. Thank you Claire. You outdid yourself today.
My first thought for a pantless Disney character was Donald DUCK, among others, but not POOH.
I felt the tiniest bit embarrassed for IOWA but then googled and discovered it’s not the only state where the PEEPs are outnumbered by swine. ONE TRAGIC FLAW in that situation is their highly controversial impact on the environment and quality of life for human neighbors. Having at one time lived near a large scale operation, I can attest that the smell alone is BAD enough to make a person want to UP AND LEAVE. Permanently.
@pmdm - I don't think people are claiming the POOH clue is inaccurate or unfair, just unfortunate. Like using the clue "Disney figure with a top hat" for Abraham Lincoln, because Lincoln appeared in numerous Disney works.
ReplyDeleteNot the same because Disney bought the rights to use the character in movies and TV shows from the AAMilne estate (apparently in 1961) so there is more of a connection here. This is a Friday clue. I personally don't see anything wrong with it.
DeleteMy TRAGIC FLAW is knowing Fridays aren't for me and doing them anyway. Lotta B-list TV trivia as with most Fridays.
ReplyDeleteThis is the first time hearing of PREGNANCY PILLOWS, and an image search reveals them to be dog beds for people.
Our Lonely NYTXW Editors Tee-Hees (LNETHS) drooling over BAKED CRAP.
Uniclues:
1 My reaction on seeing a beloved A.A. Milne character clued as a Disney character.
2 What you do after seeing Captain James T. Kirk's future birthplace.
3 Asset of the Rex Parker Anonym-oti.
4 Noted singer-songwriter's representative punches paparazzi (for publicity?).
5 "It tastes good," and "you should try it."
6 Comforting phrase for M*A*S*H star after losing his crosswordese dominance to [Page or Ameche].
7 Submarines.
8 Memo from Republican headquarters.
9 Memo from me to the reason I abandoned a social media platform and thereby saved hours of wasted time.
1 HOLY TOLEDO! POOH?
2 UP AND LEAVE IOWA
3 SCANTY WIT (~)
4 H.E.R. AGENT AMOK (~)
5 MELLO-YELLO LIES (~)
6 THERE THERE ALAN
7 NOT-A-PEEP FLEET (~)
8 GO LOW ADVISORY (~)
9 I OWE YOU ONE, ELON
I’m thinking that @Nancy should get in on the running chest thumping contest between @Pablo and @Roo. After all, today we have the PREG-NANCY-PILLOW, even if she doesn’t acknowledge it. And, while we’re at it, shouldn’t @mathgent get partial credit for AGENT?
ReplyDeleteSurprised that Rex didn’t give ELON a shoutout as being down there with Bret Stephens in the sub-human depths?
I think that, on special occasions, lambs eat LEGOPERSON.
To stop my dog from UPANDLEAVing, I had to teach him the Down and Stay.
I thought this was a scrumptious Friday. Admittedly not very whooshy on my part, but fun and solvable. Thanks, Claire Rimkus.
"Down and stay" - brilliant 😂
DeleteEasyish. This felt tougher than it was. COLVIN was of course a WOE but I didn’t have any erasures and I struggled quite a bit less than @Rex did. Smooth and the corner stacks had plenty of sparkle, liked it.
ReplyDeleteHad some trouble breakin into the NW corner, but eventually went with VENI, then FLEET. Soon after, got HOLYTOLEDO, which got m&e rollin. Still, took a looong time to solve this puppy.
ReplyDeleteI reckon POOH is a Disney character, in the sense that Long John Silver is a Disney character.
But for pantsless Disney characters, my first thought was U can't beat all them Disney DUCKs. And they are *original* Disney characters.
staff weeject pick: YEE. YEE has a history of only bein clued for its YEE-haw role, which always makes it kinda a gimme.
Thanx, Ms. Rimkus darlin. Nice themeless puz.
Masked & Anonymo3Us
**gruntz**
Oh POOH! I thought BOOK TITLE would work, but ABUZZ and SKIMPY were my TRAGIC FLAWs in the NE. Then APIAN came to mind, then -- ah SCANTY! -- and I was done.
ReplyDeleteMedium, solved in a sort of hunt and peck fashion: I wandered the area probing for possibilities and picking up the occasional kernel (THUD, GYNT, AMOK), some of which had to be discarded (MAn, atl), but not getting enough substance to see the longer entries. Eventually WANNABES and ADVISORY helped me get into the NW and erasing atl for LGA aptly got me ERASES x EUROPE and access to the SE. Favorites: the excitement of HOLY TOLEDO and calm of THERE THERE, the joke of NO RELATION, and the clue for !A ("Let's see, what are protagonists proud of?" - got me good on that one).
ReplyDelete@Claire Rimkus, terrific puzzle, thank you.
All the talk about POOH made me think. Someone should write a novel about a pantless LEGO PERSON named Jones (NO RELATION to THAD) who plays the trumpet and comes to life when he drinks MELLO YELLO, then runs AMOK and decides to UP AND LEAVE in his JEEP for a long SPA WEEKEND. “I WANNA BE A Disney Character” would make a great BOOK TITLE.
ReplyDeleteActually had time today to finish puzzle AND comment. The puzzle was definitely not in my wheelhouse and because I tend to solve the puzzle in horizontal “thirds” my first entry was GYNT. I finally started making headway in the middle third of the puzzle with ANTMAN.
ReplyDeleteHand up joining the legion that does NOT like POOH clued as a DISNEY character! However, I Googled the list of “Disney characters” and it appears that if Disney made a movie that portrays a character previously created by an author…it’s considered a “Disney character” which includes Peter Pan and Bambi. Crazy me, my first thought was Donald Duck. (Hi @Andrew)
Also, if one can believe Google, Delta has 47 hubs. C’mon. I’d like to know who amongst us doesn’t immediately think of Atlanta’s Hartsfield-Jackson airport as THE Delta hub! @Taylor Slow…I know Detroit is listed as a Delta hub but never thought of it as such.
If one has never played Risk, one has never known the experience of going for weeks without speaking to one of your closest friends over his cut-throat and calculated betrayal of you in Irkutsk.
ReplyDeleteI can't imagine going through a life without that.
Risk was my absolute favorite board game during childhood. The game pieces were polished stained wood - not the cheapy plastic pieces that they have today. I have such fond memories of settling in for an afternoon of Risk on a rainy or snowy day!
DeleteThx, Claire; a fine Fri. offering! :)
ReplyDeleteMed.
Fairly smooth solve, overall.
A BIT of a slow start in the NW, but wasn't ready to UP AND LEAVE until I'd sorted it out. Made a DENT with ALAN & GYNT; they were my stepping stones to HOLY TOLEDO, and Bob was my uncle.
Always seem to have trouble with VENI, e.g. wanting VEdI, so A BIT of a lucky guess for LEAN over LEAD.
MELLO YELLO was also a challenge; not knowing it, nor being sure of YEE / hEE or MLS. MELLO sounded right, but hELLO didn't ring true, so YELLO it was.
Being a 'LORD of the Rings' & 'Breaking Bad' / 'Better Call Saul' fan was helpful. Giancarlo Esposito is a terrific actor.
Always good to see Claudette COLVIN, who helped pave the way for Rosa Parks' more publicized 'bus seat' defiance.
The granddaughters are big LEGO fans, so I guess they could be called LEGO PERSONS.
@pmdm (9:33 AM)
Thx for your reasoned para re: POOH! :)
"Winnie the Pooh (Disney character)" (Wikipedia)
"Winnie the Pooh (also know as Pooh Bear, or simply Pooh) is a fictional teddy bear created by English author A. A. Milne and English artist and book illustrator E. H. Shepard, is one of the most popular characters adapted for film and television by The Walt Disney Company. Disney first received certain licensing rights to the Winnie the Pooh stories, characters, and trademarks from Stephen Slesinger, Inc. and the estate of A. A. Milne in 1961." (Wikipedia)
Very much enjoyed today's journey! :)
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Nice crunchy Friday!
ReplyDeleteI remember visiting my future in-laws with my girlfriend back in the mid 80s. They lived in a small town in Iowa, near lots of farmland. As we stepped out of the car, a breeze came through. She inhaled deeply and said “Iowa gold!”
You know how you fix the "green paint"yness of LEGO PERSON?
ReplyDeleteYou use the actual name of the thing, which is MINIFIGURE. Guess what? It fits in the space. Work the rest of your answers around that and use the actual name of the thing. It's had an official name for 50+ years.
I might even forgive the also-incorrect "Legos" if we can lose LEGO PERSON forever.
In other news, I think Rex and I might be polar opposites. I'll struggle and nearly DNF a puzzle, then pop over to the blog and see it rated "easy" - which usually means that it was full of authors' names and rappers. Then I'll breeze through one like today (other than having MINIFIGURE in the SW and just *knowing* it was correct) and see "medium challenging". Weird. I guess we all have our own wheelhouses. For me, go easy on rap stars and sportsball players and I'm going to have a good time.
I haven't read all of you but I'm guessing two answers will cause the agita angst kerfuffle.
ReplyDeleteDear POOH...when did Disney take your pants off? You belong in the arms of A.A. Milne.
LGA is a hub of Delta but their main one is ATL. They are headquartered there. AA, I believe, uses LGA more frequently that DL...
Small stuff that bugged me. Otherwise....I actually flew through this. There were PREGNANT pauses with COLVIN and SCANTY. I thought of skimpy first. No one should wear speedos any way. I didn't know Claudette COLVIN but now I do. ION looked out of place and MELLO YELLO sounds like something you do in the snow. Then we can talk about JEEP....Yikes...what a very long clue for that good old general purpose vehicle...
The NW was my easy entrance. THUD ROPE and ALAN...plunk in. I even got ANT MAN and EUROPE even though I don't know the Marvel Universe nor have I ever played Risk.
I learned that IOWA has a boat load of pigs and CRAP is not what you do in the WC..instead, it's a losing dice roll. Shouldn't there be an S at the ed?
Loved seeing GUS in his "Better Call Saul" role. He is perfect for the job. Let's see what ELSE?
I'm always relatively happy when I finish a Friday as quickly as this. And yet....I didn't have a serious AHA moment. The long answers were interesting but I uttered more HUH'S than AHA's. Not a good sign.
LEGO PERSON is really a thing?
Walk the pups time....
This puzzle is absolutely brilliant from top to bottom. Bravo, Claire.
ReplyDelete--James Mulhern
MELLOW YELLOW
ReplyDeleteEnjoyed this one a lot from start to finish. Especially nice clues for BAD LIARS, BOOK TITLES, and NO RELATION
ReplyDeleteThe clue for 16A brought back memories of watching Donald Duck cartoons as a kid. I always wondered why he had no problem being pantsless when wearing his sailor-suit top and cap, but whenever he was caught naked, he would immediately cover his lower half in embarrassment. I guess there was a TRAGIC FLAW in his logic. Maybe someone should buy him a Speedo.
Did anyone complain about NOT A PEEP? I will. "Shut your mouth!" you tell someone *after* they've said something (usually something surprising or objectionable). "Not a peep!" you tell someone *before* they can talk back you (or when you just want total silence). They don't equate in my book.
ReplyDeleteI fully support all the other complaints in the Comments. Pooh is Milne, speedos are skimpy, lego persons don't exist (I'll take the commentariat's word for that), the 16-word JEEP clue is the height of idiocy. I also thumb my nose at NO RELATION. It's an idiomatic expression, usually said aloud, but the better answer to the clue as written is NOT RELATED.
A Starr without a badge.
That should say "...talk back *to* you". Blogger's comment box display changed about a week ago and it doesn't fit the frame on my phone anymore so it's really hard to see what I'm typing.
DeleteI sometimes have heard HOSED used as a synonym for, well, BAKED, and I knew it meant that you were in a bad situation. But I didn’t know until today that it meant that someone had put you in that situation!
ReplyDeleteIs POOH sans pants in the original Milne version? If not, then *pantsless" POOH is, in fact, a Disney character, as are a singing prince in "Snow White" and a dancing chimney sweep in "Mary Poppins."
ReplyDelete@MetroGnome 12:24 - yes, POOH is pantsless in the original. In most of the stories, he is naked. In a couple of them - both set in winter - he wears a read shirt, presumably for warmth, but still no pants.
ReplyDeleteLoved it. My best Friday time ever. Was expecting Rex to label this “easy”!
ReplyDeleteWINNIE-THE-POOH wears no pants, in the original Milne stories. Why should he? Bears don't wear pants. He loves hunny and lives under the name of Sanders. And is surprisingly charming and talkative, for a bear. A unique ursine, no?
ReplyDeleteEntirely a Milne creature -- Disney was merely licensed to use his image and tell his story. Hopefully, the Milne HEIRS had a good AGENT and made lots of money off of old Walt.
As for LEGO people, we always called them PERSONS or people. They are remarkably skilled, able to drive cars and buses, and sometimes can even be engineers on trains.
I finished the puzzle with no lookups, and no real snags on the way. I did have Thu before TUE. And never heard of MELLOYELLO. YEE could have been HEE, so that was a kealoa for me.
I wonder where HOLY TOLEDO came from. Maybe I could find the answer in the OED?
If it's any consolation, the original A.A. Milne story and thus the original Winnie the Pooh characters entered the public domain in the US as of 1/1/2002. That means Disney no longer has exclusive US rights, and anyone can create new works utilizing the characters (except, for now, Tigger, who was added in a later story).
ReplyDeleteDisney does however retain the rights to its own versions of the characters, including, apparently, the trademarked red shirt that Pooh wears in its version. So they will continue to make money off of it for quite a while longer. They just won't be able sue anyone else for doing their own thing with the characters.
aargh!! – 1/1/2022 is the p.d. date
DeleteLots of great answers today. Somehow I got TRAGIC FLAW from the clue and T--GI-----.
ReplyDeleteTypeovers: AVIAN before APIAN (I always do that!), and HEE before YEE (MELLOW HELLO sounded plausible). And ILYA before OLGA; turns out I was thinking of Ilya Kuryakin who was the Russian character in The Man from Uncle TV show in the 1960s.
@Kam C. Hatka 11:01am, so funny, and so true! I lived in an apartment with 5 other guys and we spent so much time at Risk. (Hey, "at Risk"!)
[Spelling Bee: yd 0. @Barbara S, I got your last word in probably the first 20 seconds;for some reason I always recognize its noun forms right away. But ironically my last word was this 4er which uses the same letters!]
The NOT A WORD/WEAK cross also got me and I had a very hard time puzzling my way out of it. Ugh. Only when it turned to WOOR did I catch on that WORD couldn’t be right.
ReplyDeleteHowling’ Pelle Almqvist says”everybody loves The Hives”.
ReplyDeleteI second, or ninety-ninth or whatever, the objection to the venerable kid-lit character POOH being clued as “Disney anything!” Ugh.
ReplyDeleteHi Claire! I really enjoyed your puzzle today! Just enough "easy" sprinkled in (like salt!) which gave me a few letters to work with for the long answers 😊 Some of my faves: UP AND LEAVE, THERE THERE, I OWE YOU ONE, MELLO YELLO (even tho it tastes like CRAP - I just like the sound of the two truncated words together!), BAD LIARS (good one with including LIES in the grid!), NOT A PEEP (altho my mom always added "another" - NOT another PEEP out of you! Yeah, good times when I was a mouthy teen!). Fave words in the clues: skeedaddle, axolotls, pantsless, schooner, no-goodnik (another mom word that was not directed at me!), Risk (that game rules!). And if AMOK were in every puzzle, I'd be happy as a clam!
ReplyDeleteThanks again for the fun, not freaky, Friday 🤗
I think my only objection to today's xword is the word SCANTY. I am reasonably confident that scanty is not an actual word. All in all though, it was a fine Friday.
ReplyDeleteThere are three "Holy Toledo" theories I'm aware of:
ReplyDelete1 – Toledo is supposedly the city in Spain where Christianity first took hold and became dominant. Before then, it was also an important nexus for both Judaism and Islam. Hence, it was referred to as the Holy City of Toledo.
2 – In the early years of the 20th Century, Toledo, Ohio had a reputation as being a very religious, church-dominated city where entertainment like Vaudeville (and, later, movies) was banned on Sundays and on various holy days during the year. It became known sarcastically as "Holy Toledo" among troupers who traveled the circuit in those days.
3 – Paradoxically, in the 1920s and '30s, it was also alleged that Toledo was a sanctuary for gangsters, who bought off the police for protection. Since this provided a sanctuary, the gangsters called the city by the code name "Holy Toledo."
scanty, adjective
ReplyDelete(skan-tē)
Limited or less than sufficient in degree, quantity, or extent. (Merriam Webster)
Too Scanty 'twas To Die For You
ReplyDeleteToo scanty 'twas to die for you,
The merest Greek could that.
The living, Sweet, is costlier-
I offer even that-
The Dying, is a trifle, past,
But living, this include
The dying multifold-without
The Respite to be dead.
Initial reaction was that this TV Guide trivia quiz landed with a THUD. I rated it 1 on a scale of 1 to 5. In other words, CRAP.
ReplyDeleteOnce I finished (without errors, to be clear to those with alternative defintions of "finished"), I felt somewhat more kindly disposed, mostly because of the long down answers, though I thought they put a heavy strain on the quality of the acrosses.
To LEGO PERSON, I say, LEGO WOMAN, LEGO MAN, LEGO CAMERA, LEGO TV.
The correct term for a LEGO figurine is minifig. I have never known LEGO to use the term “person”. It just feels wrong.
ReplyDeleteDidn't know Alan AMECHE? Scored the famous touchdown in overtime in the NFL championship. He was related to Don AMECHE the actor.
ReplyDeleteFirst time here so just testing to see if this gets through. A couple of things: VENI Vidi Vicious is a fabulous title for an album. Don’t know much about the Hives but that’s enough to make me admire them. Also, everybody else has covered the good stuff so I’ll agree with all those who thought it was a fine puzzle.
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A Bear Should Be Bare
ReplyDeleteI went back to the drawings from '43
In the book from my childhood I needed to see
And Pooh was as naked as naked could be!
The bear was all bare!
Oh, yes, he was "pantless" -- he certainly was!
But also most shirtless, and that is because
A bear's not required to cover his fuzz --
A bear should be bare.
So Pooh in a shirt is a blasphemous fault.
(We know his red shirt was selected by Walt.)
"Oh, bother!" Pooh cries and I cry "Oy gavalt!" --
'Cuz a bear should be bare.
Excellent! 👍
DeleteBut most people don't work for Lego so they can call these creations what they want. This way it is less of a plug for Lego. My complaint is person is blah, as people on this blog say "green paint". In any case, if you use a lot of bricks, and the question did refer to bricks not prepackaged figures, you can create a big statue like I saw in the Lego 5th Avenue store in NYC.
ReplyDelete@Nancy. 6:49 pm. Love to see you bear your soul like that.
ReplyDeleteHey, friends. Thanks so much for all the well wishes. Feeling much better. Out of the hospital and on the mend. You all kept me entertained and educated as always.
ReplyDeleteMy internal clock is 100% on the fritz, and it takes me a long time to get this done these days - it’s the constant naps! Gonna be a process. I got a card from the 5 year old son of good friends who saves jokes for me. Here’s a good one:
What do cows put on hot dogs? MOOstard. I love kid jokes! Watching young people develop a real sense of humor fascinates me. Telling jokes is such a barometer for all kinds of human development. PJ has been such a fave of mine from birth (his birth that is - sheesh, can barely write sentences)!.
Oh, the puzzle! Well, I blew an epic streak last week while just not up to anything more difficult than getting out of bed for only absolutely “necessary things” (yeah, those things), I still have only a very little band width, and today was tough.
All caught up now, but wow, this one took me all day. And I mean all day. Started at about 7:30 and well, here I am. So glad the opinions on the scale of difficulty today varied so widely. Makes me feel much less stupid. I had almost zero connection with Claire. I got a few in the SW: ETHOS, LIES and ONE D. Cannot tell y’all how chuffed I am to have realized the “dimensional” aspect of the clue for a change instead of banging my head against a wall and screaming “What the heck does ONED (or the worse one) TWOD mean?!” I mean, you can say “ONED up” (barely), I supposed, but a couple weeks ago I confessed that I had no idea what TWOD (pronounced in my addled peabrain “twahd”) means. HooBOY!
Astonishingly, I finished this today, finally getting a tiny bit of consistent momentum going when I saw that POOH BAKED (a) SCANTY LORD! Those up top gabe me some much needed letters to work with. These “chunky” puzzles that are like several little puzzles are usually hard anyway. Today’s was a marathon.
But I finished. And am so happy to be here, and breathing on my own, to do just that.
Pooh is an A.A. Milne character fer Roos' sake!. C'mon!
ReplyDeleteThis was definitely a classic Saturday challenge for me, but mostly for the northeast corner. Had no idea about ACROBAT's origin, couldn't remember spelling of ABBACY (thought it was "abbesy"), had wrong answer in for CHINSEATTAS, which kept me from seeing GOWHOLEHOG for a while. Finally getting RAIN got me BOTHER, then DEBRA, eventually got it all filled in.
ReplyDeleteMore pigs than humans? I couldn't decide between Florida, Texas, or Idaho but then I remembered that I was doing a crossword puzzle. ;-)
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ReplyDeleteSo, HOLYTOLEDO, HER ONE TRAGICFLAW:
GO POOH AND IT’s YELLO, right THERE in the SPA.
--- AGENT GUS COLVIN
A rare day in which OFF ranked a puzzle tougher than I did. It played about medium for me; did take ABIT of gray cell work, as a [SPA]WEEKEND puzzle should, but no gnashing of teeth.
ReplyDeleteSome nice lively fill, and nothing egregiously unfair. Birdie.
Wordle birdie too.
IOWEYOUONE, ONED.
ReplyDeleteOnly wrote over NOTAword, like others, but other than that found it rather easy, unlike OFL.
ALAN Page was the NFL MVP as a defensive player for the MN Vikings, quite rare. He went on to get his law degree (from the same law school I attended) and become a MN Supreme Court justice. He is involved in various philanthropic works and has also become an author of children's books, I have an autographed copy. I have spoken with him and shook his hand. ALAN Page is a wonderful human being. This world could use a lot more thoughtful, generous people like him.
Wordle birdie.
Pretty challenging. Especially the NE corner.
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