Wednesday, August 24, 2022

Where Gandalf declares "You shall not pass!" / WED 8-24-22 / 1997 horror film with the tagline When you can't breathe, you can't scream

Constructor: Colin Ernst

Relative difficulty: Easy-Medium (Easier up top, Mediumer down below)


THEME: REAL ESTATE AGENT (56A: Source of the euphemisms found in the clues for 17-, 23- and 48-Across) — clues are real estate "euphemisms" for the following residences:

Theme answers:
  • STUDIO APARTMENT (17A: "It's super-cozy, and a breeze to clean!")
  • FIVE FLOOR WALK-UP (23A: "You can cancel that gym membership!")
  • MAJOR FIXER-UPPER (48A: "The space has endless possibilities!")
Word of the Day: MORIA (48D: Where Gandalf declares "You shall not pass!") —

In the fictional world of J. R. R. TolkienMoria, also named Khazad-dûm, is an ancient subterranean complex in Middle-earth, comprising a vast labyrinthine network of tunnels, chambers, mines and halls under the Misty Mountains, with doors on both the western and the eastern sides of the mountain range. Moria is introduced in Tolkien's novel The Hobbit, and is a major scene of action in The Lord of the Rings.

In much of Middle-earth's fictional history, Moria was the greatest city of the Dwarves. The city's wealth was founded on its mines, which produced mithril, a fictional metal of great beauty and strength, suitable for armour. The Dwarves dug too deep, greedy for mithril, and disturbed a demon of great power: a Balrog, which destroyed their kingdom. By the end of the Third Age, Moria had long been abandoned by the Dwarves, and was a place of evil repute. It was dark, in dangerous disrepair, and in its labyrinths lurked Orcs and the Balrog. (wikipedia)

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Maybe this is supposed to be of particular appeal to New Yorkers? It mostly missed me. Only one of these potential residences sounds like it requires a "euphemism" (the last one). The first two just seem like places one might live in a city. Maybe some people would find them undesirable, I dunno, but presumably you'd have some idea of the kind of apartment you were looking at before you looked at it. And about MAJOR FIXER-UPPER ... a few things. First, the MAJOR part felt a little wobbly. The expression that came to mind for me was "it's a REAL FIXER-UPPER." I needed several crosses to get MAJOR (and one of those crosses was MORIA (!?) ... this is partly why the bottom of this puzzle was more "Medium" than the "Easy" top). Second, MAJOR FIXER-UPPER seems like something you'd say about a house, or something you own, not (like the other two themers) an apartment or something you'd rent. So it's a bit odd-man-out. Third, MAJOR FIXER-UPPER *is* the euphemism here. The other residence types are just ... residence types. This one screams "euphemism." So the puzzle is telling me the *clue* is the euphemism, but the *answer* is actually way more euphemismy. Which brings me to maybe the off-est seeming thing about the theme: I usually (always?) think of "euphemisms" as specific words or phrases, not entire sentences, so that was weird. Here's the explanation of "euphemisms" from Merriam-Webster, and you can see that complete sentences are not really part of the discussion:
Euphemisms can take different forms, but they all involve substituting a word or phrase considered to be less offensive than another. The substituted word might, for example, be viewed as a less coarse choice, as when dang or darn is used instead of damn or damned. Or it might replace a word viewed as insulting to a religious figure, such as the various euphemisms for God (gadgadzooksgosh) or Jesus (geejeepersjeez). A euphemism may also consist of an indirect softening phrase that is substituted for the straightforward naming of something unpalatable. Thus, we hear of people being “let go” rather than “fired”; civilians killed in war described as “collateral damage”; or someone who has died having “kicked the bucket,” “passed away, “given up the ghost,” or “joined one’s ancestors.” (emph. mine)
There's a kernel of an interesting idea behind this theme, but I thought the execution here was a bit rough.


The longer Downs add some life to the grid, with the pair in the SE being the real bright spot of the day, fill-wise (SCOOP NECK next to SHAKE ON IT). Sadly, that pairing also results in the gunkiest part of the grid, fill-wise: that tiny section in the far SE—CIVKTSTVS. Actually, TVS is OK, but it adds to the horrid pile-up of abbrs. there. The clues for CIV (62A: ___ engr.) and KTS (65A: Gold stds.) are themselves hard to look at, with [___ engr.] being about as ugly a clue as I can imagine. Elsewhere, the short fill is better but not by much. ASSAM is interesting because it's a real enough place but my brain flags it immediately as crosswordese because, well, it used to be everywhere. One of those geographical terms you'd learn very early on, if you didn't know it already, because you could count on seeing it regularly. Its popularity peaked in 1973—nine appearances in the NYTXW that year. But this is its first appearance this year, so ... especially since it's an actual point-to-able region, I can't really call it "crosswordese" anymore. Like, if ASTA showed up in the puzzle tomorrow ... is he crossworese anymore? Ten ASTAs the first full year I wrote this blog (2007), but just one last year (2021). If the crosswordese unwears out its welcome, is it even crosswordese any more? I realize I've wandered into some thorny existential territory here, but ... think about it. 


ASSAM aside, there seemed to be a lot of stale short words. AHS CLIO EDAM ACER AFTS IOTAS ELL ERM PAH (ERM-PAH!—the sound of the hesitant tuba! ERM-PAH lerm-pah derpity der, I've got some ugly short words for you!). I don't know what to say about MORIA. I've read "The Hobbit" and seen all those boring LOTR movies and somehow MORIA hasn't stuck. Never even appeared in the grid until 2014, but this makes four appearances now. We already have one fictional place down in this corner (AVONLEA), I'm not sure we really need another. I enjoyed seeing AUGHT again (25D: Zero), clued as a fitting retort to everyone who doubted its "Zero" meaning last Thursday. While this puzzle played easyish overall, there was one crossing that felt like a fastball aimed at my head. I could not process the quotation marks in 47A: "Practical" thing (JOKE). I was looking for some colloquial phrase, some ... saying ... or an actual quote or anything that might justify those quotation marks. No idea. [It might be practical] would've tracked, but this clue didn't. Cross that with the "?" clue  at 47D: Form of attachment? and you've got me in a bit of a pickle, esp. since there are contexts where you do indeed "attach" things with "pegs." Me: "What kind of weird bit of hardware am I dealing with here? T-NUT, L-BAR ... what letter goes before a PEG!?" But the "attachment" in question is just an email attachment, and a JPEG is just a run-of-the-mill electronic image. I never got truly stuck there, but I did have to work both words down to the last letter (the "J") before understanding either of them.

See you tomorrow.

Signed, Rex Parker, King of CrossWorld

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110 comments:

  1. Rex – first of all, I’ll say once again that I enjoy your writing style. mediumer, euphemismy, offest seeming, ERM-PAH lerm-pah derpity der…. Language is so playwithable, more people need to lighten up and have some fun. I also enjoyed reading and then considering what a euphemism actually is. Until your comments, I had always considered a phrase that sugar-coatedly described something icky as euphemistic. I thought the theme’s execution was fine.

    I guess I was distracted ‘cause I caught on fairly early but one of my first entries was a ridiculous “small O apartment.” My cruciverbal NADIR of the week.

    I love me a good euphemism and actually stole a real-estate one to tease my son with. He’s grown into a lovely, hard-working man, but man, was he lazy as a teenager. I always said he took the “step-saver” approach to life.

    TRUE VALUE in REAL ESTATE. So I watch all the Million Dollar Listings, and invariably, when the agent tells the seller the price they came up with after considering the comps, the seller grimaces and says it’s worth more. Always, always, always.

    I went spelunking in Google just for kicks and found some truly inspired REAL ESTATE euphemisms:

    “Original Owner” Smells like moth balls. And cats.
    “Rustic Charm” Unsealed wood floors. Using a blow-dryer may set the electrical on fire.
    “Vintage Charm” Ugly Wallpaper.
    “Easy Access to Highway” You can SEE the highway.
    “Great Nightlife” You live above a bar. Stock up on earplugs. Or Scotch.
    “Custom Cabinets” Hand-stenciled bunnies on all cabinet doors. Wearing bows. Holding hands with other farm animals.
    “European style cabinetry” Sellers discovered Ikea.
    “Built-In Cabinetry” Previous owner nailed furniture to the walls.
    “One of a Kind” Ugly as sin.
    “Enchanting” Magic won’t cram a king-sized bed in there.
    “Charming” Tiny. Possibly creepy.
    “Curb Appeal” Inside is a nightmare.


    “Site for sponges” – Mom likes to keep hers in that little hinged pull-out thingy above the cabinet under the sink. This is a *huge* issue for me ‘cause my sponges need to air out At. All. Times. There’s not much worse than that sour smell. We’ve compromised; she has her stinky little sponge in that airless spot, and I have mine next to the faucet. I bet she uses the crap out of mine all day while I’m at school. ‘Cause hers smells bad.

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    1. Anonymous7:44 AM

      ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

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    2. Anonymous8:25 AM

      Love your comments, LMS. If Rex was charging for this site you would deserve royalties. On sponges - neat little trick - zap them in the microwave for a minute to kill off the bacteria. Do it while mom’s not looking and she will nary be the wiser.

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    3. Anonymous9:14 AM

      Wonderful post! Thanks for the morning brightener!

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  2. This small-town Midwesterner never misses the real estate section in the Sunday Times, especially "The Hunt" for, say, a new STUDIO or WALK-UP, and the "Homes for Sale in Manhattan and...", both read with horrified fascination (tiny! $$$$$$$$!) and, admittedly, some jealously, too (Who's living in New York and who isn't?). So the theme was right up my alley. I wonder, though, if FIVE-FLOOR WALK-UP sounded strange to anyone else; I'd think it would be "fifth-FLOOR." SHAKE ON IT was a nice closer, finishing off the APARTMENT search.

    Do-overs: sink before REEF, Arundel before AVONLEA. Help from previous puzzles: as with @Rex, AUGHT from last week. Hardest for me to see: PETRI DISH, as PET RaDISH kept getting in the way.

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    1. @Carola 7:02 AM - As a lifelong New Yorker, yes, I agree about fifth-FLOOR being more APT than FIVE-FLOOR. You could call the building a FIVE-FLOOR walkup if, indeed, the building is five stories—But in that case, you would probably call the building a "five-story walkup." The appellation of given apartment would surely use the ordinal form of the number, not the cardinal.

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  3. OffTheGrid7:06 AM

    Well this was just a really ugly puzzle. Triple natick in the SW. An abbr. cluster**** in the SE. Also, in SW, ERM. Really? ERM? The theme was cute, though. I get a real kick out of real estate ad B.S.

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  4. @OffTheGrid: Right. Big-time Natick in the SW. I read LOTR when I was in college 50+ years ago and I didn't see any of the movies, so MORIA was a WOE. "I didn't know it would be on the test!" And I don't have @Rex's spidey-sense for old crosswordese so ASSAM was a mystery as well. My final entry was square 63, where "A" was a SWAG* and I got the happy music.

    * Scientific Wild-Ass Guess, a popular strategy in engineering, science and computers

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    1. Love SWAG! You need to coin that. I'll sure he using it from now on.

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  5. Anonymous7:43 AM

    Aw, c'mon, Rex: Those are definitely euphemisms for less-than-widely-desired real estate offerings. You want to trudge up and down five flights of stairs every time the dog needs a walk? I had a condo in a vintage building (another possible euphemism) in Chicago that included a FIVE-FLOOR WALKUP, owned by people with dogs. I always felt sorry for them, as I sat in my first-floor unit. And thanks, @Loren Muse Smith, for those other euphemisms. Loved the bunnies with bows & etc. especially.

    Aw, c'mon, Rex, Part II: The LOTR movies were "boring?" Anything but. I got MORIA instantly because in the "boring" first movie, when the balrog appears, I actually yelped. Out loud. In a theatre. A grown woman.* It was a terrifying scene, and even having read LOTR, I wasn't prepared for that visual.

    *Just as an aside, this is how old I am: My grandfather said AUGHT for "zero" or "none." Not to be clever or odd--that was a common usage among his peers. When he would help me with arithmetic, he'd say, "Put the AUGHT there." He also said "zinc" for "sink," another geezer-ism, but that's neither here nor there.

    I enjoyed this puzzle, with the exception of the SE corner. Agree with Rex on that. Not pretty and kind of a stumper too. But there were so many fresh answers--TRUEVALUE (not the store), PARENTAL, SCOOPNECK, SHAKEONIT. And hooray for the GESSO and LIL clues.


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    1. There are a lot of things you can call the LOTR trilogy (I’d go with “transportive”), and boring isn’t one of them.

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  6. Anonymous7:47 AM

    @Carola, I'm with you on the WALK-UP and came here today specifically to call that out. FIVE-FLOOR WALKUP sounds like one might have the second through sixth floors... Or, if it is a FIVE-FLOOR fifth-floor WALKUP, the fifth through ninth.

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  7. ERM - real estate you say? I’m just not seeing the juice here. Grid filled itself in quickly - lots of trivia. Side eye to the AMENS x OMEN cross and the INNER/OUTER pair. Agree with Rex on the SE corner abbreviation mash up.

    STIFF Little Fingers

    Colorless Wednesday solve.

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  8. “ERM,” said no one in real life, ever.

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  9. Anonymous7:54 AM

    @Joaquin: But it does appear, with that exact spelling, in the closed captioning on many British/Irish/Scottish TV programs.

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  10. Anonymous7:54 AM

    Manhattanite here

    Fifth Floor Walkup

    Major Rehab

    Those sound more accurate

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  11. My favorite part of this puzzle was the interplay of negative and positive – seeing a property from the glass-half-empty or glass-half full perspective. Here, the buyer and seller both know the property has good and bad qualities, but claim that it only has the one quality that serves their purpose. It’s funny because human inconsistency is funny.

    I saw this echoed in the answer AA MILNE because there it is in Pooh – Eeyore vs. Tigger.

    But enough musing. Some specific puzzle observations. It’s too soon to draw any conclusions, but Colin seems to like grid spanners. Four today, and in his last puzzle (his debut), the theme featured three of them. I’ll keep tuned.

    Meanwhile, I liked the crossing of AMEN and OMEN, the three palindromes (including the rare-for-crossword five-letter palindrome TENET), and the lovely O-train: PABLO / IAGO / GESSO / RENO / CLIO and wannabe answer-part STUDIO. There was also a BREAK up, an OUTER on the edge, and ON TOP where it says it is.

    A cute theme with a deeper underbelly of the human comedy – you had me there, Colin. Crosswords take us to many places, and I loved the stop this one dropped me off at. Thank you for making this!

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  12. @rex -- I loved your ASSAM/ASTA side trip!

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  13. ERM is a Britishism ... if you watch a British TV show, they say it a lot. I recommend Sex Education on Netflix.

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  14. Agree with @rex about the bottom half being harder. JPEG was no problem with me as I play Jokers & Pegs this afternoon with my regular Wednesday game group and I always call it JPEG for short, so that was fresh on my brain when I did the puzzle. But the learned-it-from-crosswords-years-ago ASSAM x the truly, truly ugly ERM was my last entry. Actually questioned my certainty on ASAM and considered running the alphabet at the M because brain refuses to accept ERM as , well, as Anything!

    Liked the clue for TAXRATE, and PETRIDISH. Had 'layer' for GESSO at first. Then tried to reimagine it as a smock-type coat that an artist might wear, which gave me the imagery of Bob Ross or William Alexander standing in front of their easels and that immediately brought up GESSO. I believe William Alexander's product of choice was called Magic White. ("And zen vee brush into ze vahter", or who can forget Bob's 'happy little trees'!). But still, that false Y from my layer at first gave my 32D outfit a Y-NECKLINE until I fixed that GESSO and crosses made the SCOOPNECK visible.

    @LMS, Love! your euphemisms! Reminds me about a helpful "translation" for 'Horse for Sale' ads:
    'Needs experienced rider' = Will buck your a## off.
    'Energetic trail prospect' = Will buck your a## off and leave you in the woods
    'Horse is very athletic' = Will buck your a## off over and over and over.
    'Jumps anything you want' = Will buck your a## off, and go skipping off jumping out of the arena still bucking while you are lying in the dirt.
    'Occasional silly moments, but basically a good ride' = You might get it to go somewhere if it doesn't buck your a## off first.
    'Clips, hauls, loads' (sometimes also seen as 'Great ground manners') = Don't even think about getting on.
    'Totally bomb proof' = This horse is older than dirt, deaf, blind, and lame.


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  15. I suppose ASSAM is somewhere in my memory banks if it was as prevalent as all that, but it took some trial-and-error with three Naticky crosses - MOIRA, AVONLEA and ERM (I tried to make ERr work for far too long). I thought the theme was fine, though maybe the clues are more “euphemistic” rather than straight euphemisms. I thought Rex might comment on “FIVEFLOORWALKUP,” which feels pretty unnatural to this non-New Yorker. I knew that’s what it had to be, but I spent some time looking for a rebus so it could be “fifth” or something.

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  16. If ERM is a variant of UM (or UHM), then like Covid, it is a variant that everyone should get vaccinated against (perhaps as part of their linguistic Enterprise Risk Management protocol).
    Add MORIA and AVONLEA and that section edges out the TVS, CIV, KTS clusterf**K section for the worst, but they both smell pretty foul.

    GESSO is new to me as well - crossing it with AUGHT right above CHU didn't help much. The whole voice of the NYT puzzles seems weird and inconsistent day-to-day and week-to-week, which some may find desirable as experimentation can occasionally yield a pretty stellar success. Personally I prefer the steady, consistent excellence (or at least above-averageness) of the WaPo rather than the hit or (mostly) miss nature of the NYT approach.

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  17. This is certainly timely, given the present bonkers real estate market. We sold our house at the right time for selling but then ran into the low-inventory state of finding another place. We finally landed in a reasonably large condo, which is OK, but would prefer something with more windows and some outdoor space. Anyway, I would add that "cozy" actually means "tiny" and "lots of possibilities" means "you'll need a contractor ASAP, if you can find one".

    I've read LOTR several times and still never know if it's MOIRA or MORIA.

    TRUEVALUE is a chain of hardware stores around here, so that was easy.

    Agree with the observations of FIVE vs. fifth, and also who says ERM?

    No offense to @ROO, but it's nice to see a PABLO in the puzzle for a change.

    OK Wednesday, CE. Certainly Enjoyable and doing Acrostics always helps with spanners like these. Thanks for all the fun.

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  18. I live in a 5-floor walk-up studio apartment in NYC, and I laughed out loud (literally) at this puzzle. You have to live in a tiny studio apartment on the 5th floor with no elevator to know the true hell of it. These are definitely euphemisms, as much as "major fixer-upper". I loved this puzzle.

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  19. I'm not sure I'd lump MORIA and AVONLEA together in a box of "fictional places". The latter's also known as Cavendish on Prince Edward Island, and was a lovely place to visit, at least 50 years ago on a bike tour - haven't ever made it back.

    Loved the dive into euphemisms that both the puzzle and @LMS sparked. And enjoy dissecting when a euphemism might not be one - with the charming rustic cottage I live in coming to mind. Fun start to the day.

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  20. Anonymous8:30 AM

    My grand parents lived in a FIFTH floor walk up in Manhattan we used to sun bath on the roof “Tar Beach”

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  21. Is it in Avonlea
    or perhaps Moria
    where the Anacondas
    squeeze into hoohas
    with an oom pah pah?

    Puzzle title: Realtors are Liars, say

    Theme is kinda mean-spirited.

    I don't think I liked this puzzle. We were on a pretty good run this week and then today. WHUP. The upper half seemed okay, even a bit too easy, but the bottom half felt messy and the southwest felt poorly assembled.

    AHS/ERM, uh, yay?

    INNER/OUTER. Yeeshk.

    PAH without the OOM (and the other PAH). Hm.

    OAT should be a plural. First non-POC ever? Probably not, but anti-POCs are the unicorns. Rare.

    A textbook example of how not to cross. MORIA/ASSAM/AVONLEA/ERM

    CIV/KTS way to avoid a strong finish.

    Uniclues:

    1 Praying for a little culture.
    2 Pants you'd never wear, unless you're a dad.
    3 Enrages capitalists.

    1 PETRI DISH AMENS
    2 TRUE VALUE JEANS
    3 DEPLOYS TAX RATE

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  22. Wordle 431 5/6*

    ⬜⬜⬜⬜🟦
    ⬜🟧⬜⬜⬜
    ⬜🟧🟦⬜🟦
    ⬜🟧🟧🟦🟧
    🟧🟧🟧🟧🟧

    Toughie today!

    And, BTW Rex, in NYC there are no houses, just apartments, many of which purchased. It’s to these that “fixer upper” is common jargon here.

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  23. Not a ton for me to enjoy in this one. Found the theme a bit "meh" and wasn't wowed by the fill. But I smiled at the memory of the one-and-only Henry AARON and took that away as my happy thought of the day. Also enjoyed the JPEG clue. And, @Gary Jugert -- #2 above is probably my favorite uniclue/answer of all you've ever done -- excellent!

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    1. @Sir Hillary 8:56 AM Thank you! As a fashion-challenged person myself, I'm pretty sure I'd wear jeans from True Value if they were cheap.

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  24. Anonymous9:28 AM

    MORIA/ASSAM/ERM/AVONLEA - ugh. hated the SW corner. otherwise I liked the puzzle. I’ve had apartments in Manhattan and the Bronx so I get it.

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  25. Anonymous9:31 AM

    Thanks a lot, Rex- I woke up my wife LOLing at your “Erm-pah Lerm-pah” song. Brilliant.

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  26. Another Anon9:36 AM

    @Anon 8:25. So put your stinky disease-ridden slimy sponge in the MW oven where you warm up or cook FOOD. As they say in Crossword puzzles, "UH, NO" and "ICK".

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  27. All good satire has to contain at least a grain of truth. This puzzle contains an entire salt-shaker's worth of truth.

    I've done puzzles that were harder and I've done puzzles that were trickier, but I'm not sure I've ever done a puzzle that I've found more delightful when the theme answers rolled in.

    Maybe it's only a New York City thing -- but THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT REAL ESTATE AGENTS SAY TO YOU!!!! And always with the straightest of faces.

    This falls into the realm of "puzzle ideas I wish I'd thought of." It's so amusing. Add to that the fact that all the themers are grid-spanners which adds a real elegance, I think. Loved it.

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  28. Hey All !
    Crashed and burned in SW. Breezed relatively easily through the top half of puz, but holy JEANS that bottom half was tough! Finished with eSSes for ASSAM. Yikes. ERs made sense. ERM I do believe I've heard of, but the ole brain refused to rolodex to it. (For @LMS, verifying a noun!)

    Also, SCOOP NECK? New one here. LOW CUT, VNECK, PLUNGING, sure. SCOOP? Nope.

    My sister once upon a time, moved into a third FLOOR WALKUP, with the narrowest 180° turning stairs you'll ever see. There was me and her boyfriend at the time with this couch, trying to maneuver this heavy, awkward behemoth around the tight corners. Fun times. At least mattresses are sorta flexible. Thank God she didn't have a piano ...
    (And yes, I was also there when she moved out.)

    Nice to see PARENTAL and guidance have the same letter count. Neat AA crossing in NE. Haven't read @Lewis yet, high doubles? I just quickly saw a few.

    Did like the four 15's. Liked ANACONDA, too ( the word, the movie was OK), because that's my street name! No JOKE. Thankfully I haven't seen any snakes slithering around...

    Four F's
    RooMonster
    DarrinV

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  29. As is often the case on Wednesday, I had more fun with Rex & commentariat than the grid. I found myself at that horrible Natick intersection of Asian filmmaker and womenswear fashion, a tough spot for most of us ole FELLAs! wUH seemed perfectly fine as a cross for a SwOOP NECK. Several passes along the INNER & OUTER entries did AUGHT to enlighten me to the error of the day, so I gave in to the reveal grid crutch and hobbled over here. Nicely done to all the LONG U usual from @LMS through @Sir Hillary.

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  30. Kathy9:48 AM

    “Everything new!” Flip alert. Your inspector had better do more than just kick the tires on this one.

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  31. Michiganman10:01 AM

    There's a feature in the Thursday NYT telling the story of someone, single or a couple usually, looking for housing. Most are in NYC but not all. The story presents three seriously considered homes that the buyer looked at. The reader can the "vote" for their choice and then "vote" for which one they think the person(s) bought. I enjoy it. It's interesting and fun. It also provides a peek into a world foreign to me. Their budgets are in the 400K to 1.5M range. I live in a resort area in northern Michigan where prices are high. But for 500K you can buy a 2500 SF home on a large lot, 2 car garage and it's in move in condition. Waterfront is a different story.

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  32. @roo -- High doubles, but not unusually high.

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  33. Anonymous10:09 AM

    they made a movie about it (though a house): "The Money Pit".

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  34. Anonymous10:18 AM

    BTW, there's nothing in the clues/answers for the theme that specifies rental. in Big Cities for decades one says, "I bought my apartment". and not just when it goes condo; in many places the generic term for such housing is 'apartment' whether owned or rented. there's also, in Big Cities, co-ops, which are, from what L&O episodes imply, owned apartments but with the consent of current occupants. I'll bet there are other variations on the theme.

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  35. I know it's Wednesday, but "Cubist Picasso" for PABLO? C'mon, Will! "Paloma's padre" would be better.

    I generally welcome entries in the puzzle not in my data base. Never had seen AVONLEA but enjoyed correctly guessing it from the crosses. Not so much if they're part of a Natick.







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  36. I'm with Nancy on this one. Amusing theme. As a tea drinker, decaf ASSAM is a favorite, not crosswordese. SCOOPNECKS are very common - not as obscure as lots of sports figures or team abbreviations- IMO.
    @Kathy - Flip Alert is great!

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  37. Airymom10:27 AM

    "Five floor walkup" said no one ever. To a New Yorker, this is as jarring as traveling to another city and someone says, "Go to _____for pizza. It's just like NY pizza." NO.

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  38. @Roo-You can take some solace from the fact that you're in today's New Yorker crossword. No PABLOS, as usual.

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  39. Airymom10:34 AM

    "Five floor walkup" said no-one ever. For a New Yorker, it's as jarring as traveling to another city and having someone say to you, "Go to _________'s Pizza. It's just like NY pizza."

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  40. I live in a FOURTH, not four, FLOOR WALKUP and I like the exercise. Years ago my calico cat, who was always trying to escape from the apartment, would wait right inside the door when I came home, then rush out and barrel all the way down the stairs, and then look up and meow at me to come down. Once I started down, she would race back up past me and meow from above. So I'd start back up, while she of course ran down again. This could go on indefinitely. She loved zooming around that stairwell.

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  41. I first learned of euphemistic words when my grandmother died. Nary a sole used died even though she was dead. No, she didn't die, she passed away. She went over to the other side, she joined her parents, she's now with her horses and dogs. It was endless and kinda funny. I guess I have to mind my P's and Q's when using that word. She would've preferred died.
    I rather liked this. Memories of my first WALK UP, FIXER UPPER,, "Oh look...there's another cockroach!", shlepping groceries up SCADS of flights and trying to get the smell of @Carolas pet radish out. I didn't care. I was young and I was living on 98th and Broadway in NYC. I didn't use a REAL ESTATE AGENT....no, I did it the old fashion way. The New York Times rental listings. Talk about euphemisms..PAH.
    I noticed the OUTER UPPER INNER trio and the STAIR staring down at WALK UP. All ONTOP.
    My only problem was MORIA and ASSAM and remembering AVONLEA. All gettable on today's hump day.
    Hi @PABLO.....

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  42. Anonymous10:44 AM

    "great bones and close-to-town location" is one I just read in a listing.

    Interpretation-Needs all new drywall, roof, carpet, and furnace. Traffic noise and frequent sirens.

    Another favorite, "seasonal views of the bay".

    When you stand on a stool and squint you can see a small patch of what could be water, but only after the leaves fall.

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  43. Thx, Colin; excellent Wednes. puz! :)

    Med.

    Seemed a skosh tougher than time indicated.

    Worked top to bottom, finishing at CIV / TVS.

    Recently watched 'Genius Picasso' on Disney+.

    SCOOP NECK was new for me.

    This one was SCADS of fun! :)

    @jae yd

    Yeah, I regret not spending more time in that section. Def had 'spidey-sense' there.
    ___
    Peace 🙏 🇺🇦 ~ Compassion ~ Tolerance ~ Kindness to all 🕊

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  44. I lived in a FIVEFLOORWALKUP in NYC ( of course. Like where else?) for about three years (as others have pointed out, it was really a FIfthFLOORWALKUP) It was at, or near, Bleecker and MacDougal in the Village. Rented it with the love of my life, Alice. She eventually ditched me for her philosophy professor, which resulted in seismic shifts in my physical and metaphysical circumstances. Maybe all for the good. Maybe not. But this one theme answer has set me to cartwheeling back to that wonderful apartment, directly above John Hammond, Jr’s. fourth floor walk up. Our cat, Rodeo, fell off the balcony while sunning himself and ended up in the tree branches outside of John Hammond’s apartment and was rescued. A celebration ensued. Enough of my sappy reminiscences.

    Surprised that Lewis the palindrome hunter didn’t mention TENET.

    You might call the crossing of AAMILNE and AARON an AA Meeting.

    Man: What an INNER AASAM I.
    Woman: (NODS) OMEN ARE. So I GESSO.

    I liked the voice of this puzzle and the idea behind it. Very enjoyable Wednesday. Thanks, Colin Ernst.

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  45. Thanks to Xwords I’ve watched most of The Thin Man movies. They are a hoot. But, boy howdy, do they drink. And drink. And drink. If anyone actually drank as much as Nick and Nora they’d have no liver left. The ending to the clip Rex posted is typical.

    The theme was fine. That chopped up middle section was odd to look at, but not as bad as I feared. I liked the clue for PETRI DISH.

    Overall a fine Wednesday puzzle.

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  46. Again with “nothing” for AUGHT??
    It’s a misuse that has crept its way into an alternate definition. Originally “naught” was “nothing” and “aught” was “anything.” Antonyms. Then people started getting it wrong, using aught when they meant naught. Why reinforce it? You don’t even change the grid, just clue it correctly!

    And agree on ERM.

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  47. Good stuff as usual. 43A and 47A are interesting.

    A farmer was taking a nap under grains and was arrested for perjury
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    .
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    For lying under oats

    OAT JOKE
    Bonus humor.

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  48. Medium. The bottom half was tougher than the top for me too. rigid before STIFF was it for erasures. Cute/amusing theme, liked it.

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  49. Ham and pineapple11:06 AM

    I don't know what "NY pizza" is but I'm sure it could be made anywhere. I get that place names become attached to certain foods and may define a certain style. That style is not restricted to the place.

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  50. The theme answers were the joy today. No problem here with their euphemisticity.

    Also no problem with 5-floor walk- up or with MAJOR instead of AREAL. Distinction without a difference. I did think of AREAL but couldn't find an alternative to JEANS. Also did not like AREAL that much anyway.

    No problem with UP and UPPER in different theme answers. I briefly had ONeuP instead of ONTOP.

    Also add UPPER to INNER and OUTER. Still looking for LOWER or a time warp to a couple days ago, if my memory is somewhat accurate. Or is NADIR a substitute?

    Good clue for TORN.

    ASSAM tea knowledge saved me from two naticky decisions.

    @Roo
    ERs is plural.

    Center of a very bizarre simile:
    LSU ASA PAH CHU

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  51. Grouch11:28 AM

    I can't believe we have to do this again!

    @Michael Page 10:55. Clue is Zero. Nobody said nuthin' about nothing.

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  52. This was a perfectly nice Wednesday and an unusual (LONG U) theme but not one of my favorites. I don’t think I’d ever want a STUDIO APARTMENT especially if I had to climb FIVE FLOORS to get to it. And I agree with Rex that “REAL” FIXER UPPER is what I’m more accustomed to hearing. However, I think most anyone who has ever shopped for REAL ESTATE of any kind can relate to the gushing AGENT trying to shine the best possible light on their property in order to SELL it.

    I enjoyed the mini astronomy lesson on the INNER and OUTER planets and I always like a little movie trivia. I make it a point to avoid horror films because they’re mostly well, horrible, but I have seen ANACONDA which was only moderately bad. And Crazy Rich Asians was surprisingly good, both the film and novel. I dismissed the wildly popular book as lightweight chick lit until I started watching the movie on TV out of curiosity. Realized there was more to the story so I then decided to read it as well and finally understood the appeal.

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  53. I agree with Rex that words that were overused and become crosswordese are often welcome back like old friends no matter how things were when you parted. Still do not want to see them too often.

    @pabloinnh
    Urm...
    When did I last see PABLO in a puzzle.

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  55. Solid workperson(!)shipy puzz but totally without pizazz. Sigh, really? Real estate?
    Did like INNER and OUTER planet lists tho.
    😟🦖🦖🦖🦖😟


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  56. Anonymoose11:49 AM

    @albatross. Every day I try to add a new word (no I don't) to my vocabulary. Today's choice is clear; euphemisticity (almost a grid spanner)

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  57. Rex, you had to travel quite a distance from today's puzzle to get to where you could include the Thin Man link. Thanks for taking all those psychic steps, that clip was a joy!

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  58. The Joker11:58 AM

    @albatross shell. AREAL is clued "unsteady on one's feet" or "doing a dance at a hoedown".

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  59. Anonymous12:05 PM

    The irony of it all was there was only one 'Thin Man' book (1934), but Powell and Loy were so natural in their performance (which was over the top to start with), and the dog of course, that they made a bunch more.
    "Although Hammett lived until 1961, The Thin Man was his last published novel."
    -- the wiki I guess he made a bunch of moolah on the book

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  60. @Pablo (twice!)
    LOL
    Yes, ROO (or my french pseudonym RUE 😁) seems a touch more grid friendly than PABLO. Take solace that DARRIN is few and far between. Maybe nickname yourself OREO?

    RooMonster Smart Ass Guy

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  61. Joe Dipinto 10:36
    Loved your cat story! We lived in Manhattan for over 30 years, always with one or more cats on the 12th fl. They all raced down the long hall to the elevators once we cracked our front door. Tessie, our Abyssinian, would speed to and fro until she’d had enough and then stroll leisurely back home. Good memories.
    Rex had it right out of the gate: this is a puzzle of particular resonance for NYers.

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  62. Anonymous12:26 PM

    I need help interpreting this from a RE listing; "Absolutely charming home with a vintage-modern aesthetic that enhances the everyday." That's some piece of shinola!

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  63. old timer12:35 PM

    We had INNER and OUTER and UPPER, so I was hoping for a lower or downer. I loved the puzzle! Realestatespeak is always amusing. It is true that a tenant in NY might have to live in a *fifth* FLOOR WALKUP, but it is probable that what the landlord bought was a FIVE FLOOR WALKUP, and conceivable that he might choose to live on that fifth FLOOR, or more likely the fifth and fourth FLOORs with an interior stairway connecting them. Better views, plus all that daily exercise. And with a dog, lots of exercise, as a previous poster recounts.

    ASSAM went right in. I may be a coffee drinker, but I do know my teas, and spent four months in England in 1966. Indian tea is often from ASSAM. MORIA I did not recall, though easily gotten on the crosses. But AVONLEA went right in. Probably most parents of daughters are huge fans of the ANNE of Green Gables series. Perfect bedtime reading, as each chapter leaves a child hungry for the next, and each book lasts a week or more.

    And I am super glad our Muse has become a regular again. Her observations and stories are better than any puzzle ever could be.

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  64. @Whatsername (11:33) -- I don't know how to break this to you, but absolutely nobody wants to live in a STUDIO APARTMENT in a FIVE FLOOR WALKUP. And because you don't live in NYC, you almost certainly will never have to.

    I love your "sappy reminiscences," @egs (10:50)

    @Joe D (10:36) -- That, in a nutshell, is why I don't own or ever want to own a cat:)

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  65. I scotched my possibly otherwise easy solve by overthinking 4A with ACRES as "Lots and lots", which worked with the obvious CEO and nothing else. Rats.

    I love Rex's using the erm-pah lerm-pahs to chastise the puzzle!

    Would "hyperbole" work better in the 56A clue in place of "euphemisms"?

    Colin Ernst, thanks for a Wednesday challenge!

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  66. Anonymous1:13 PM

    As a lifelong fan of both Tolkien and L M Montgomery, Moria and Avonlea were two of the easiest in the whole puzzle. Got them without any letters yet filled in in either I think. Anaconda though was embarrassingly late. Third or fourth to last word I did, and had only two letters missing. Never heard of the movie. I think “Pah” may be the stupidest short word I’ve seen. And as a NYC resident, I liked the theme but agree with what someone else said “fifth” is waay more natural than “five”

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  67. I can't locate the comment that mentions the NYT's recent article on how to interpret real estate ads. But I found the article and, yes, I agree it may well have been the spark for today's theme. Here it is.

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  68. Since no one has mentioned it yet, I will. Who could forget that dramatic scene during the escape from Moria when Gandalf is being pulled down into the bottomless pit by the Balrog, but holds on long enough to tell his companions, "Fly, you fools!"

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  69. Sharonak1:34 PM

    Well I agreed with Rex about easier at the top and meiiumer lfarther down. But all that rambling critique of the euphemisms.
    WHAT ROT.
    They were totally APT. I smiled from the first and had fun figuring out the others as a few crosses came on.
    Got a chuckle early from the 2D misdirect. With the pe already in place petri dish went right in. That led me to studio apartment of 17A and I had the theme idea
    Not bothered by five floor walkup. Even tho fifth floor apartment sounds more typical, five floor fits here.

    Don't like afts for afternoons. Is afternoon ever abbreviated that way anywhere except in crosswords?

    Ho. Just caught on tht the puzzle starts with the abeviatio for apartment.

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  70. The correct answers to 34 down and 60 across are (GAS) GIANTS and TERRESTRIAL planets respectively. And no, they don't fit.

    I got GESSO quickly cuz my best friend in architecture school was a Fina Arts grad. I don't remember what it means but I also remember he liked ROPLEX, whatever that is. (I've probably spelled it wrong since Google knows nothing about it.)

    [Spelling Bee: yd 0.]

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  71. Anonymous1:53 PM

    @okanaganer:

    Well... I always get kea/loa-ed by such clues. They're just as often called ICE GIANTS.

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  72. @Nancy – I didn't mind, Bongo was a great cat. And if I was too tired to play her little game, all I had to do was go back inside my apartment and close the door. Within half a minute there'd be meowing and door-scratching to come back in.

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  73. "ERM" is the answer for "UHH" ? Can someone explain that?

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  74. oldactor2:28 PM

    @whatsername and others: Everything is relative someone said. I lived for 17 years in a cosy studio on floor number five without an elevator. Actually, you don't climb 5 floors, only 4 because the first floor doesn't count. What I loved about that apt. was the rent, $38 a month. No heat at the time, but that came later with a slight raise in rent.

    It is on East 54th between 1st & 2nd Ave. Nearby neighbors were Kurt Vonnegut and Noel Coward. The building is now co-op and my apt. now rents for $1500.

    The best part was that my building was just two doors away from The Neighborhood Playhouse School of the Theater where I was enrolled for two years. Around the corner a wonderful deli sold large coffees for $0.18.

    How was this possible? It was 1956 and I'm 90 and now live in the house my family bought when I was 8 yrs. old.

    Oh, and I loved the puzzle and the memories it stirred.

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  75. @annoymouse
    My first drink this evening I will toast the elasticity of language euphemistically honoring gridspanners everywhere.


    The Thin Man was the murder victim in the book and the movie. He never returned and was not on Boston mass transit. William Powell was not thin and did return. An early example of the power of film franchising.

    @the joker
    I thought that was AREEL.

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  76. Anonymous2:42 PM

    I live on the ground floor of a "five floor walkup." That is, the building has 5 floors, but it's no skin off my teeth because I don't need to use any of the stairs. My top floor neighbor lives in a fifth floor walkup.

    So I agree that the clue and answer are somewhat off.

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  77. @a shell 11:38- Well, when was it?

    The suspense is killing me.

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  78. @Nancy. you almost certainly will never have to own a cat

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  79. @egs -- But he did!

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  80. @pabloinnh
    10A today NYTCW.
    The Urm...was suppose to be Uhh..., the cluefor ERM in today's puzzle and a clue to where to look. Opposite corner. I was half assuming you were putting us on or I had missed some earlier mention of it cause what are the odds you would mention not many Pablo's in crosswords the day that it was. You have confused me but it's a common state for me. No pimento as they say.

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  81. Anonymous4:09 PM

    Weird that ASTA has vanished from crosswords. I definitely still think of it as crosswordese.

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  82. Anonymous4:46 PM

    I asked my 24 y.o. daughter the Gandalf question and she got MORIA almost instantly. I don’t remember the moment in the movie even though we watched all three movies every summer for several years (10 years ago). They are incredibly well-made movies. All I remembered was that the mines of Moria is a place in the books.

    ASSAM is not just crosswordese to me after switching to loose tea after learning that many tea bags contain plastic. The company I buy from has an Assam tea.

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  83. "After The Thin Man", the second in the series, features an, erm, unusual bit of casting.

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  84. That fifth floor walkup is “a top floor sunny apartment” with a killer view, (becomes an oven in a heatwave).

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  85. I've seen ERM before in a NYTXW puzzle, clued, as I recall, as a sound of hesitation used chiefly by Brits. I DEEM it close enough to another hesitation sound UM, so ERM works fine for me.

    ERM, what's up with 52D URALS? Shouldn't that be THE URALS?

    I'm surprised 3D TRUE VALUE didn't get a hardware store chain clue rather than the somewhat awkward "Fair market price, say". Not sure what the "say" part is trying to say. I just peeked and the chain was founded in 1948 in Chicago and now has over 4,500 locations in 60 countries.

    Nice to be reminded of the classic gluteal tribute "Baby Got Back" by Sir Mix-a-Lot. Who can forget the pithy "My ANACONDA don't want none unless you got buns, hun"?

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  86. @Joe di
    You mean James Stewart being the **spoileralert**?

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  87. Anonymous5:50 PM

    Can we get rid of "say" and the "?", please? No. We don't want you to have to think too much and we're trying to be cute.

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  88. @Lewis 3:34 pm. Gadzooks, I’ve defamed you. I AUGHT to be shot. Until this very day, I have always carefully read and contemplated URALS comments. Please forgive me this one lapse and it won’t happen again ATALL.

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  89. @Albatross shell – I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. None.

    I think the clue for ERM should have been:
    "Syllable that becomes a Spanish man's name if you add GUILL to the beginning of it and O to the end."

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    1. @Joe di
      Your comment @450 pm.
      ERM is a cipher to me. Never discussed it at all.
      I think you and Pablo are enjoying my sea of confusion. Paranoia strikes deep.
      But the only deeper meaning in any of my posts today was euphemistically is 15 letters long.

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  90. Anonymous8:12 PM

    ERM??????????????????

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  91. @egs -- It's going to cost you an erm and a leg... not!

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  92. Uh…erm.

    Just no.

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  93. @Albie – I knew what you were talking about. I didn't want to reveal any more about the matter. I gesso I should have put a smiley.

    My ERM suggestion was a separate, unrelated musing, not directed at you.

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  94. Anonymous9:51 AM

    “ERM-PAH lerm-pah derpity der” made me laugh hard.

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  95. Anonymous10:48 AM

    I kept trying to fit NATICK in the southwest corner but it didn’t fit.

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  96. Bloke does not seem similar to me at all to FELLA. I was looking for another bit of English slang like 'mate' or 'chap'.

    MORIA is the worst bit of fill this year.

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  97. There is no PAH without an oom. It’s oomPAH - and occasionally oomPAH-PAH. Oompah yes. PAH no. Too many LIL bits of crossword glue type words littering the grid like AHS, ELL, ASA, KTS, ERM etc. etc. LONGU is a device used by constructors after they painted themselves into a corner. The NYT AUGHT to be better than this.

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  98. Burma Shave1:43 PM

    STIFF UPPER

    HER REALESTATE’s VALUE
    we’ll DEEM APARTMENTal,
    for PAT and PABLO it’s TRUE,
    they ARE now PARENTAL.

    --- AARON A. MILNE

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  99. I found this puzzle oddly difficult to solve. I get -APARTMENT and wonder what kind. -FLOORWALKUP, but man, that's gotta be THIRD, no? except...there's only four spaces. Myriads of three-story structures abound, but FIVE-FLOOR?? Doesn't hang. -FIXERUPPER, but what on Earth comes before? Yikes, I even had -VALUE, and couldn't figure out the TRUE beginning. And finally, REALESTSTE...ADS, but not ADS, because five spaces. WHA...? I wanted to scrunch the whole page up until the right number of spaces came out. The whole thing was just not in my wheelhouse.

    I might have liked it anyway, but for that LONGU. Sorry about that: bogey.

    Wordle was a little different:

    BBBBY
    YBBBY
    GGGGG

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  100. Diana, LIW11:19 AM

    A day late - but not a dollar short. Goit it.

    Am mostly recovered from my booster on Tuesday.

    Lady Di

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