Relative difficulty: Easy-Medium
Word of the Day: ELMORE James (42A: ___ James, the so-called "King of the Slide Guitar") —
Elmore James (January 27, 1918 – May 24, 1963) was an American blues guitarist, singer, songwriter and bandleader. He was known as "King of the Slide Guitar" and was noted for his use of loud amplification and his stirring voice. For his contributions to music, James was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 1992. [...] James played a wide variety of "blues" (which often crossed over into other styles of music) similar to that of Muddy Waters, Howlin' Wolf and some of B. B. King's work, but distinguished by his guitar's unique tone, coming from a modified hollow-body acoustic guitar that sounded like an amped-up version of the more "modern" solid-body guitars. [...] James influenced many slide players, such as blues guitarists Homesick James, Hound Dog Taylor, and J. B. Hutto. His single string playing also influenced B.B. King and Chuck Berry. Rock guitarists Jimi Hendrix, Brian Jones, Jeremy Spencer, and Frank Zappa have acknowledged his influence. In the Beatles' song "For You Blue", John Lennon plays a slide solo on a Höfner lap steel guitar; George Harrison encourages him with "Go, Johnny, go ... Elmore James' got nothin' on this, baby". (wikipedia)
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The appearance of CHEETA made me depressed, as all apes-used-for-human-amusement situations tend to make me depressed. I can't imagine standards for animal handling were so great back when "Tarzan" was on the air. There is no CHEETA in the Edgar Rice Burroughs Tarzan books, but LOL humans love anthropomorphic "comedy" of chimps who think they're people. Ugh. Not my kind of APERY (also, ugh, APERY, why?). I thought PEAS were legumes ... and they are; turns out that "botanically" legumes are fruit. Don't like it?—take it up with your local botanist. The YA in SEE YA SOON feels awfully arbitrary. I would say SEE YA, but I'm not sure I'd extend that abbr. / slangy spelling into the full phrase "SEE [YOU] SOON. When I say SEE YA and SEE YOU SOON, even if I rush that one and run everything together, the vowel sound in "YOU" is distinctly different from "YA." There are a couple of common clue tricks in this puzzle—misdirection you get good at picking up on over time. The use of "spelling" in 29D: Noted spelling expert, for instance. I would never say that a wizard "spells." I would say a wizard casts spells. But this is the NYTXW and quaintness and alt-ness are the order of the day; therefore, "spelling" is "spell-casting" (unless MERLIN has volunteered to take his friend's shift on wizarding night watch—a very different kind of "spelling" (verb (3)). The clues also try to get you with "fancy" at 36D: Not fancy in the least (HATE). Looks like an adjective, but acts like a verb.
I had UTE before LAO (22A: People with a language of the same name) but the only real trouble I had with the grid came right around PIROGI, at the bottom ends of those long Downs in the NW. I had both CAMEL and OPERA and no idea what came next for either of them (1D: Figure skating move based on the arabesque in ballet / 2D: Theatrically exaggerated behavior). I thought the OPERA- answer was going to be a two-word phrase, some "behavior" I'd never heard of like OPERA HIPS or OPERA LIPS or OPERA TICS ... and that is the story of how I finally realized it was one word. From OPERA space TICS to OPERATICS. As for CAMEL, well, I'm not watching the Winter Olympics at all this year, so my figure skating terminology is rusty. I just couldn't come up with the word that follows CAMEL. I wanted LOOP but then I thought "no, it's TOE LOOP," so then I thought CAMEL TOE, which was an unfortunate mental digression to say the least. Really hard to shake. You can really convince yourself that CAMEL TOE is a skating move if you say it a bunch of times. For decades I convinced myself that skaters did maneuvers called "triple sow cows" (it's "Salchow"). Anyway, SPIN was so basic that it never occurred to me. Until it did. That's it for trouble. And that's it for me today. See you tomorrow.
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ReplyDeleteVery happy to see LEGATO (Italian for "tied together" at 23D), since the latter part of my career was spent with backup software of that name. Like @Rex, I've only seen the Russian dumpling as PIeROGI, but there were only six spaces. So it became PeROGI, which made it very difficult to see OPERATICS. tANS before PANS for "Goes for the gold?" at 9D was easily corrected once I got CLAPTRAP. ELvIN Baylor before ELGIN and TiC before TAC made XGAMES very hard to get. Overall, Medium.
This was a faith solve all the way. My first pass yielded little except dismay over the seeming mass of answers that required knowledge I didn’t think I had. But a faith solve requires persistence and the belief that the constructor and editors aren’t sadists – and that the grid will actually be do-able.
ReplyDeleteWhich means go back again and again to clues and answers with partial fill-ins to give fodder to the brain to process. Eventually, usually, a ping happens – “Oh. Oh yeah! That!” – and I pop in an answer, realizing it was one that I thought wasn’t in my knowledge base. Then it’s back to the scan and re-scan, and the brain sends forth another ping. Little clumps of fill-ins start to emerge; some turn into splat fills, and others continue to fight.
This entire unveiling process FEELS SO GOOD even though it’s hard work. Then PENTAGRAM pings, and CAMEL SPIN, and ETHNICITY, and, gloriously, STACEY ABRAMS. Then MERLIN, my favorite cat ever, who would sleep next to me with his paw in my palm, stops by to warm my heart. And by the end of the solve, I see that there were only two answers I really didn’t know, and they were crossed so I could get them.
Ah, divine! Pleasure that only crossworders know, and what keeps me returning. Mary Lou, I had to ramp up the faith on this one, and it so sweetly paid off. I am so grateful for this gem and this experience that you made happen. Brava!
I tell my friends that think they need encyclopedic knowledge "it's not a test, it's a puzzle!" Puzzling it out is the pleasure as you so aptly describe. And then the ping!
DeleteWhich is why on my opinion going down the lost of downs and taking pot shots at answers is somehow morally wrong because that approach substitutes knowledge for puzzling. The real objective should be to put in one answer and follow that up with other answers for which you already have at least one crossing letter
DeleteExactly my experience. Strange synapses I’m guessing.
DeleteI’m a sometimes constructor (and a less often publisher) and I can’t for the life of me figure out how to construct a high level themeless. Themed puzzles are relatively easy - there’s, well, the theme. Themeless construction is essentially not difficult, especially with computer programs to help, but a computer will not serve up a puzzle like todays. It’s a mystery. I would like to see Mary Lou or any of the other themeless masters write about their experiences in themeless construction. I wonder if they themselves actually know how they do it.
I agree completely with @Lewis as my solve ran parallel to his except mine took me the entire day. Blaming it (only partly legitimately) on a rather painful medical procedure yesterday that has me on some helpful but mind-dulling drugs today. That said, I would likely have puzzled through this one most of the day anyway.
DeleteAdditionally, @What?, I really enjoyed your comments on constructing. As a long, long time solver but never a constructor, I have often contemplated precisely your description of the ease of constructing a themed puzzle as opposed to a challenging themeless one. Today gave me a huge run for my money and I was fighting the clock begging my brain to finish before the stroke of midnight. Right now, since I feel like a pumpkin anyway, I will try to get some sleep and hope for smoother sailing tomorrow.
But all struggling and grousing about struggling aside, this was one bang up job of a Saturday. Best we have had for quite a while.
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ReplyDelete@Lewis you so perfectly described the joy of crosswording. The utterly inscrutable grid that slowly takes shape inch by inch with one aha moment after the next. My favorite puzzle ever was a Saturday NYT version that yielded not a single answer on the first pass. The second time through was, again, a complete blank. Impossible! Third time around yielded a "maybe" three letter answer. From that tiny toe hold I picked and scratched my way across the grid in fits and starts. Four days later it was a complete solve with no help. Nirvana! You just have to have faith.
ReplyDeleteAnd you just perfectly described my early experiences with Friday and Saturday puzzles, although I never dragged one out more than overnight. And even now, my most rewarding solves start with barely one or two questionable toeholds and the sense that this is crazy - yet 40 or 60 minutes later, it's all there. Faith is indeed the operative word.
DeleteTurned in last night with the bottom of the grid almost completely filled in, but almost nothing (OYL) on the top half. This morning CLAPTRAP fell and the NE followed. But the NW simply wouldn't yield without turning to "Check Word" a few times. Sigh.
ReplyDeleteMy favorite Hidden Diagonal Word (HDW) today is BOLT (begins in the 32A/D space and moves to the SW), because it offers so many options for cluing:
Dead ______ (Looks like it can be one or two words)
Dash (or could that be clued -)
Item in the fabrics aisle
Carriage ________
ChEVy
It might be hurled by Zeus
Ok, I'll stop now--but that BOLT is one versatile puzzle word.
Mary Lou is a frequent constructor for Stan Newman so I know her style. I really liked this one - not the most devilish Saturday - but just enough bite and totally pleasant.
ReplyDeleteLiked the SW best with PENTAGRAM crossing both DEL TACO and X GAMES. Add METAL and we have an nice edge to the grid. Rex’s pile up on SEE YA SOON and CONTEXT IS KEY is small. Just finished watching all 30 hours of the Get Back documentary so LET IT BE went right in.
Some unknown trivia for me - SPADER, EGAN - even STACY ABRAMS took me awhile.
ELMORE JAMES got nothin’ on this baby.
Highly enjoyable Saturday solve.
@Lewis, my solving experience was exactly as you describe yours, therefore quite satisfying. I had the most trouble in the NW, bc COMBO was very hard to get. I know it’s a fast-food thing, but I was looking for something more specific, and I didn’t know the CAMELSPIN, which I had briefly as hAMELSPIN, thinking of Dorothy Hamill, whose haircut many of us tried to emulate at the time, but of course her name is spelled differently.
ReplyDeleteOn the tough side for me, mainly due to several answers that were unknown completely or by spelling HES A REBEL, ELMORE, PEABO (had PEeBO forever), EGAN, PIROGI (as spelled), SATE SAUCE (as spelled).
ReplyDeleteLearned that LET IT BE was a documentary, and not a movie (I am fairly sure I have never seen it). Learned about 3-legged TOADs (who would have ever guessed!)
I really liked CONTEXT IS KEY. Yes, "CONTEXT IS everything" is a real phrase, but so is CONTEXT IS KEY. The wrong (for this puzzle) version seems more like a comment one would make when explaining why you did not figure something out, whereas CONTEXT IS KEY would be something you might say when you are telling someone else to look at the bigger picture when they are not seeing what needs to be seen. Anyway, the clue and answer made sense to me, although it took a long time to see, as I was thinking the answer was going to be dONT EX_____, based on the letters that I had and was sure about.
@Lewis
ReplyDeleteWow, someone finally put todays solving experience into words. You must have been mind-melding with me today.
Five or six years ago a DEL TACO opened about five minutes from my home. Somehow, I have managed to never try their food and I’ve never seen their slogan “UnFreshing Believable”.
ReplyDeleteIf you are old like me, then ELMORE, ELGIN, and HE’S A REBEL are in our wheelhouse (or at least in our neighborhood). But I’m guessing these are unknowns to many of the under 60 crowd.
Anybody else see eight blank spaces clued as [Balderdash] and first think of BS?
With you all the way @Lewis. Had to gird up for the challenge but got'her done. Perfect Saturday.
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Unlike OGL, CHEETA made me happy as it gave me the H for HESAREBEL, which I wanted to be "Leader of the Pack", but of course that didn't fit, even though it's another fine song about a poor misunderstood youth.
ReplyDeleteLots of answers took just an extra beat for thought purposes, like STACEYABRAMS and DURANGOS and how to spell PEABO, but there they were in almost no time, which is fun.
Most trouble in the NW, and INABATH was not helping.
Also, CONTEXT may be KEY, but OONTENT fits very nicely as well. Oops.
I'm with @Son Volt on the ELMORE James citation. That's where I first heard of him.
Very nice Saturday, Mostly Loved Getting answers on my first guess, so thanks for all the fun.
I have only completed a couple of Sunday puzzles without some form of assistance, and @Lewis described my solving experience on those to a tee (crossed, not dotted of course). Unfortunately, the crosses are still much too difficult for me on a Saturday - but frequently I can at least bob and weave my way through a late-week grid and make some progress.
ReplyDeleteHES A REBEL has got to be brutal for anyone under 50 (maybe under 60, lol), Good call by the Z-meister a couple of weeks ago suggesting that I add BANTU to my trivia card - he predicted it would be back sooner rather than later.
Never heard of DEL TACO, never mind their slogan/logo - are they better than Taco Bell (don’t answer - pretty much anything north of dog food is better than Taco Bell).
MERLIN crossing ELMORE seems appropriate for any Saturday-level PPP fans. WS tossed the “common usage” charade out the window on Tuesday this week, so no surprise to see DEA, which is about as far from common usage as matter is from antimatter.
I got a chuckle out of Rex’s satirical comments regarding the chimpanzee (or whatever) that was in a movie about a hundred years ago.
This was a nice challenging solve. I didn't write anything in until I got to OMS. Up north I could see a couple of pairs like METAL over ERRS as well as SPADER over PERE but other than OYL and ABIDE I couldn't support them. If you lop off the final H CHEETA could support LEI. COB didn't light up anything around it.
ReplyDeleteOMS couldn't be anything but OMS and when it gave me SCROOGE the SE filled in smoothly or should I say LENTANDOly. CONTEXT was elusive and I expected 48A to be EdwIN or ErwIN. Luckily ABBA and APPS were gimmies and with that SW filled in I was able to work my way back up through the rest of the puzzle.
My slowness on recognizing STACEY ABRAMS I chalk up to my usual assumption that if it's Saturday the names have to be virtual unknowns.
BRAS surprised me the most. I expected it to be TEAS so obviously I was thinking of the wrong kind of cup.
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Agree so much with @JJK & @Lewis this morning. And this transplanted Georgian delighted in Stacey taking her place right across the grid. Deftly constructed.
ReplyDeleteNow have to decide on snacks for tomorrow.
@Lewis. Perfect description of the experience of solving today. What I appreciate about you comments is not only that they are positive, constructive and insightful, but always focused on the puzzle and the solving experience.
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Tough par four today - 3 under after 10.
I'm kinda of the school on here that asks why we're loading this blog up with Wordle. But now I have to ask everyone out there if they're having the same problem as me since it migrated to the NYTS: when I click on the old Wordle link, it switches to a NYTS green header, across the top, but the page is just blank white space. And my Times puzzle page has no icon or link for Wordle. Anyone know what gives?!
DeletePIROGI are Russian?
ReplyDeleteSATE SAUCE? With some Sake I presume. I didn’t HATÉ that answer but I thought about it.
CONTEXT matters, so I had a struggle with the second half of that answer.
What marketing genius decided to name a BRAS seller Cuup?
Does Bryson PEABO do TaeBo? Maybe while his Welsh Corgi eats Russian PIROGI?
Thoughts on adding the parenthetical to the LEI clue? Clearly they were trying to get us to go with “boa,” there which I thought an odd and vaguely mean to new solvers thing to do.
**wordle alert and potential spoiler alert**
@Southside Johnny - I went with a 10 pointer for my first letter in my first guess and ended up having the vowels. My third guess took me many precious nanoseconds to come up with, but I entered it confidently.
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Tough, challenging puzzle, but enjoyed it.
ReplyDeleteIn our curling match last night. we started off by trading singles before tapping out an opponent's stone to score two points and take a 3-1 lead. In the fourth end, it was our opponents’ turn to draw for two points, to level the score again at 3-3. In the fifth end, we played a double takeout for another deuce, and took a 5-3 lead into the break. After blanking the sixth end, our opponents were facing four of our stones when an opponent came to play his final shot in the seventh end. However, his draw came up short and his side surrendered a killer steal of two, as we built our lead to 7-3. Following a steal, our opponents had a chance to score five points in the ninth end, but the player’s angle raise attempt went wrong and he had to settle for two, reducing our lead to 8-5.
I’d love to hear how other curling teams are doing.
“The Hamill Camel is one of Hamill's signature moves. It starts off with a camel spin -- in which Hamill spins while leaning forward and holding a free leg behind her. Hamil then bends her skating leg, lowers her torso and pulls her free leg forward to transition into a sit spin.” I remember
ReplyDeleteDorothy Hamill from a winter Olympic in the 70s, mostly because she had short hair and suddenly everybody seemed to be getting short hair cuts. There was even a shampoo called Short and Sassy. But that’s how I came up with Camel spin.
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ReplyDeleteTwo Googs to keep the solve going. And yet, still a DNF. SATaSAUCE, atMORE. Couldn't see MERLIN until the wrongness was crossed out. And a *Natick Alert* at that E of ASCETIC/ELMORE.
So, a tough little SatPuz. I did figure most of it out, so that's my solace for today.
I like PIROGIs, regardless of how it's spelled.
SEE YA SOON.
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No F's (EGAd!)
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Thx Mary Lou; great Sat. puz! :)
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Excellent start in the NW; made steady progress the rest of the way, with no major stumbling blocks.
Knew ELGIN Baylor right off. Followed his career at Seattle U. in the '50s, and subsequently, the NBA with The Minneapolis/Los Angeles Lakers.
Recalled XGAMES (having missed it in a previous Xword), which was the KEY to getting CONTEXT IS THE KEY.
Only unknown was ELMORE James.
It Hurts Me Too ~ ELMORE James
Time well spent. :)
@Eniale (3:34 PM yd) ty & yw 😊
@puzzlehoarder / @okanaganer 👍 for a whole bunch of recent 0's
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Peace ~ Compassion ~ Tolerance ~ Kindness to all 🕊
Unless I'm going crazy, PIROGI are not a Russian dumpling. In Russian, PIROGI is the plural of a type of meat pie with a pastry crust. See here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirog
ReplyDeleteI kept wanting to make either "pelmeni" or "vareniki" fit here, which ARE actually Russian dumplings. I'm guessing the author was trying to go for "pierogi," which are Polish dumplings. That region (and, honestly, much of the world), has some sort of stuffed boiled (and sometimes fried) dumpling that goes by different names, but PIeROGI" are associated with Poland, not Russia, under that name. The Russian PIROG is a different concept. I assume "pirogi" in this case is just an anglicization of the Polish. I've also seen that word spelled as "perogi." Regardless, not a Russian dumpling by that name, as far as I know.
Growing up, we had a friend of my grandfather's who would visit us every Wednesday afternoon, and I would come home from elementary school greeted to a fresh batch of homemade pierogi. (My mother despised making them by hand.) My favorites were always the potato-and-fresh cheese kind ("ruskie" - which translated to "Ruthenian" not "Russian," as many think), but she also made beef, sauerkraut, and various fruit-filled ones. The sweet ones were always served with sour cream with sugar beaten into them. Delicious stuff.
Excellent and fully accurate discussion of pierogi. The NYT can/should do better!
DeleteThere's an awful lot of PEE[a] down there in the lower right corner.
ReplyDeleteJeanie Bryson is the only singer you should pay attention to named Bryson.
@J. Diefenbaker - Sorry, my curling match was cancelled last night. Half our team is Canadian, and the damned truckers have everything bolluxed up.
@J.Diefenbaker, you'll probably get more takers in the Toronto Star, but I see what you're up to, scroll on by...My ice skating workouts went well this week if that is any solace.
ReplyDeleteI read Lewis' 2 paragraph gem and wished there were a shorthand for the experience and realized he opened with "faith solve". Need to put that in the regular shorthand lexicon.
Speaking of xword lexicon, today's kealoa contributions: pere/mere, nsa/cia/fbi, oyl/oil, honorable mention for cob/tom, tic/tac and ash/oak/elm.
@Lewis 636am perfectly describes my solving experience regarding the difficulty and Rex does likewise with his "nits" - namely the foody words.
ReplyDeleteAlways knew them as PIeROGI and SATE SAUCE looks like something you'd add to a flimsy, nutritionally lacking meal to fool the consumer into feeling full.
So, nothing to add except a good tussle, fit for the Saturdee.
A quick scan of the comments shows I'm only one among many who "Lived the @Lewis" today. Not surprising at all - he's one of our resident gems. ❤️
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ReplyDeleteTAC was not in doubt in this puzzle. The central square has to be TAC in a tic-TAC-toe.
I thought PIROGI were Polish dumplings, so it took a while to see that.
ReplyDeleteAnd with just the "S" I confidently wrote in HESSOFINE, which held me up in the NE for a while.
I found today to be easier than Friday's puz, which happens occasionally, but enjoyed the crunchiness. Took me a long time to see APERY; I just wasn't on the same wavelength with the cluing. But all in all, a fun way to start the day.
And in way more important news:
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I just saw out of the corner of my eye on my way here that @Lewis calls this a "faith solve." And I was coming here to call it a "keep the faith puzzle". We're saying the same thing: that it was initially very hard; that the first clues we saw were all Greek to us; and that we allowed ourselves to believe that if we found a few toeholds anywhere at all, eventually we'd get back to the beginning with enough crosses to be able to solve.
ReplyDeleteThanks you, STACEY ABRAMS, for being the vessel that by ferrying me back from ABRAMS to STACEY enabled me to solve the pesky NW corner.
OPERATICS, which I never once thought of, is such a good answer for "theatrically exaggerated behavior". My answer was HAMMINESS which is the right length -- but it didn't work with ERRS or LAO.
"CONTEXT IS all" before CONTEXT IS KEY. My "goes for the gold" was tANS before PANS. (An attractive tan is golden brown, right?) And I had no idea what three-legged animal sculpture is considered lucky in feng shui. Before TOAD, I pondered fOAl and rOAn.
This is the sort of very interesting tidbit that you can learn in a sophisticated crossword puzzle, but one that I will surely forget ere the sun goes down. Still, nice crunchy Saturday, Mary Lou.
Got through most of the puzzle pretty well, but the NE was just a wide-open wasteland except for RECAPS and PERE for the longest time. Then some mistakes held me up. The R in RECAPS made me think “tommyrot” for the “balderdash” clue. (So many wonderful words for that concept - I just want to recite them one after another. Those two and CLAPTRAP, plus hogwash, poppycock, malarkey … and more that aren’t real but sound like they should be, like twiddlemash, piddlepaddle, gripflour…)
ReplyDeleteWhere was I? Oh, yeah, mistakes in the NE. I also had bASE instead of EASE for facility (thinking of a military base as a facility). That made the 1970s rock doc end in two B’s, and I couldn’t think of anything for that. Also, I was DIGging for gold, not PANning. Eventually guessed PETER (the Great) and ABIDE for stomach, which gave me something ending in CITY for the census data, so I was thinking of an urban area, which kept me from ETHNICITY. Eventually worked it out, ala @Lewis’ perfect description of xword puzzling joy. CHEETA and SPADER were “duh, you idiot” moments.
Like someone else above, I was thinking (Dorothy) HAMEL for the spin, not remembering how to spell it. Loved the misdirection on HATE. CASA Milà is Gaudí, whom I adore. Casa Milà is cool but Casa Batlló is just one of the most beautiful buildings in the world.
Lots of food to like in this puzzle, unlike yesterday’s lima beans. Rex got me thinking about the sate sauce on pierogis and I am game to try it. It actually sounds pretty good.
As a foreigner who doesn't speak English as first language, absolutely hated this one, so many proper nouns and trivia from years that my parents weren't even born. Surprised to see so many people praising it on here. I guess Americans just want crossword to be only enjoyed by themselves by making it so esoteric to exclude anyone not familiar with American culture and not born a half century ago.
ReplyDeletei really appreciate the free and reliably punctual daily posts on this blog, which has been a mainstay of my crosswording journey over the past dozen or so years. usually the rundown is AGREEABLE enough, and even when rex PANS puzzles for nitpicky, illogical, or inexplicable reasons, i try to just LET IT BE. still, i guess some things pique my crankiness and are harder to ABIDE.
ReplyDeleteto wit: reXparKer finds X and K "kind of flirting with each other" the "coolest and most-original-looking thing" in today's puzzle but casts aspersions elsewhere about Q, J, & Z. And is it that hard to google "context is key" and find that it gets more than twice as many hits without quotation marks and 4.5 times as many hits with quotation marks than "context is everything?" By this (admittedly somewhat crude) measure both outrank "context is king," but I can just imagine the howls of delight that entry might have elicited — what solipsistic CLAPTRAP.
maybe i just need an ICEBATH
I plunged in today with the ICEBATH COB crossing. I did spend some time wondering if a female swan was a hen, but no, she's a pen (still a three-letter word thought.) I was bespelled by MEsmer for far too long, and "CONTEXT IS all" added a tad of black ink to my grid.
ReplyDeleteAnd today's LEGATO is common and familiar to me, whew!
Thanks, Mary Lou Guizzo!
@ Son Volt, Thanks for the link, but I assume your comment was tongue in cheek. Any attempt by the Beatles to play the blues was doomed to failure.
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Love the ‘faith solve’ idea folks are describing above. Really enjoyed this one because it was a fun grind with the occasional ‘aha!’ Moments embedded. Took me about 50 mins and loved every minute of it.
ReplyDeleteRex is right. @Lewis described my solve. Nuff!
ReplyDeleteMaybe Russians spell it pirogi, but the dumplings are Polish, not Russian, and they're spelled pierogi. I eat a lot of SE Asian food, so I have no problem saying sate correctly, I don't need a colonial French accent added to it, thanks. Del Taco is a name which is a modifier and that's just weird; a fast food joint serving Cajun food could be called Delta Co. though. That would be much better.
ReplyDeleteSee? Context really is key.
Dreary.
ReplyDeleteI have a bone to pick with the answer to 7D. LET IT BE won the Oscar for Best Original Song Score. The award for Best Original Score went to Francis Lai for “Love Story.” Which is a travesty since it beat out Jerry Goldsmith’s incredible score for “Patton.”
ReplyDeleteWow from the west coast, so probably no one will see it, but I, too, was thinking Love Story. Thx for reminding me I'm not crazy
DeleteJust back to reveal that J.P’s ICE experience was the commentariat highlight for the day! I’m reminded almost daily of the breadth of interests, scope of knowledge and depth of wit displayed here. Thanks y’all 😉
ReplyDeleteSaturday tough for me but I got ‘er done with the help of uncle google on a couple of the names. I especially liked that we had both long downs and long crosses.
ReplyDeleteSATE SAUCE might be made out of TOAD and PEAS for all I know. On the other hand, the formidable STACEY ABRAMS was a gimme since I just checked out her novel While Justice Sleeps. Have not started it yet but it’s gotten rave reviews. I liked CONTEXT IS KEY which should always be kept in mind when listening to/reading news reports where that very thing is often conveniently ignored.
1D reminded me of the winsome Dorothy Hamill who was queen of the 1976 skating competitions. Her patented move was the Hamill CAMEL, a SPIN which transitions to a sitting spin and which she was credited with inventing. Here she is performing to ABBA’s Dancing Queen.
Our friend @Lewis is getting the "kudos" treatment - as he should - because most of us had the same experience. Mine was "look at the puzzle....sigh....get up and walk the dogs...come back and see maybe two words that I knew for sure...sigh....make breakfast and try to finish all the phrases...sigh."
ReplyDeleteI see Ms. Guizzo's name and I always do a happy feet dance before starting. I had a good friend in school in Havana named "Marilu" so the likability starts at the git go.
I seriously could not find anything for a long time. I was beginning to doubt my sanity, but, like @pablito, I'd find a foot here and there and eventually fill in the other parts...
When you finally see your answer, it's truly an AHA moment. Of course I know that!....Fiendish cluing aside, and many names I didn't know or didn't know how to spell, this was doable with plenty of patience.
Now I'll get to the FOOD..
@Peter P... 9:36. I've seen it spelled different ways. I'm pretty certain it's Russian. We had Russian friends in the Bay Area who'd invite us over all the time for a feast fit for Queens. Always pirogi's...I make them often and I fill them with left-over mashed potatoes and some very sharp cheese. I suppose you could add PEAS in them but if I gave them to amigo @Z, he'd toss them at my pie hole.
I don't particularly like nor visit fast-food places, so getting COMBO at 1A was hard for me. I did get DEL TACO and I'll tell you why. My husband likes anything Mexican because I cook it a lot and it's very good . Just ask the Pope. Anyway we had been shopping and heading home and Paul was very hungry. He saw a DEL TACO and asked me to stop and pick up something for him. I declined for my own reasons....He ordered a "Crunchtada Tostada." I yelled "what the hell is that?" He said he didn't know but he was about to find out. He said it was good! Moral of this story: Don't look at re-friend beans with horror...it might be the last bean that bites you in your fondillo.
I also like SATE SAUCE. Another thing I make a lot. With perfectly done chicken....Everyone's invited to eat at my house...except @Z...He's like Mickey except he doesn't like it... :-)
I'm now off to sing HES A REBEL at the top of my lungs and make my pups sing along with me too. You should hear them!
Gracias "Marilu" for making me "think" for a change.
Yesterday, flat-footed and slow-witted, I couldn't get enough of the shorts to see the longs. Today steady progress (for a Saturday for me) all the way through. The NW corner played toughest until I decided to accept METAL, saw the CAMEL COMBO and joined the APERY with my childhood friend CHEETA. It never occurred to me before today that he sounds like a fast cat. I still ended with an error. I thought a CANTER was spelled like a CANToR and SATO was just another nutty sauce I didn't know.
ReplyDeleteI always considered IT HURTS ME TOO to be a Tampa Red song. ELMORE put his stamp on it and love him to. I'd still go with Hudson Whittaker as the King of slide guitar.
Yep @Lewis you nailed it! I started this Saturday puzzle grumbling…”who would know this, I don’t know this, dammit I’m gonna have to cheat before I lose patience and throw my iPad at Nancy’s wall..” well, I hung in there and finished without cheating! Yay me!
ReplyDeleteI have never been up on ice skating moves…axel pretty much sums it up for my knowledge. For this reason and others, the northwest was the toughest nut to crack for me. COMBO was a surprising bear for me to figure out and while I rarely eat fast food anymore except on roadtrips I KNOW the term and it just didn’t come to me even with the M and the O. I really resisted Cuups as being BRA (really? ugh).
PIROGI (pierogi)…ok. Just no. First, there are communities in the NW part of my state near Chicago that have PIEROGI Fests and the communities have large Polish, Czech, and Slovak populations. Second, I looked this up Before I came here and the interweb seems to credit the “invention” of the PIEROGI to POLAND. Anyway, I call shenanigans on the whole primary Russian reference. (Hi @Z and don’t disparage my state anymore…😉…I do it enough for everyone)
Enough of this CLAPTRAP.
ReplyDeleteThe southeast is playful: KEY over DEA over PEAS over PEABO. And in the east, BAS over SCROOGE.
My CD player is in the shop -- it no longer recognizes the discs. I spent a while last week in the garage workshop taking it apart, unscrewing layer after layer of housings, trying to get to the laser (on the theory that it needs recalibrating). Some of the screws are practically microscopic, but I have a jar of practically-microscopic screwdrivers. I kept careful track for reassembly purposes. But hit a dead end when I saw I'd have to remove the face-panel, a too-complicated risk to this amateur. So reassembled everything and it's now in the hands of the professionals at Johnny's TV in Stillwater (MN).
I tell you this so you'll understand why I'm not listening to ELMORE James's "It Hurts Me Too" at this very moment. So much anguish in that sincere voice and guitar.
SEE YA real SOON.
@Anonymous 10:16AM - Well, yeah. I mean, when I try a British cryptic or watch a gameshow from a country across the pond, I'm going to be lost on a lot of things as I don't have intimate knowledge of British, Aussie, New Zealand, Canadian, etc., cultural, social, linguistic, etc. facts and trivia. This is hardly an "American" thing. When I lived in Hungary and tried doing Hungarian crosswords, of course I was lost on Hungarian pop culture, trivia, and history and had to ask my girlfriend for help all the time. When my mom did Polish crosswords growing up and I looked at her grid afterwards, a good portion of the stuff I didn't know for the same reason. As an American, I find the NYTimes Crossword sometimes a bit heavy on New York geography and local knowledge but, you know what? It's in the _New York_ Times, which as much as it is a national paper, it still retains its local identity, so I should expect clues that locals would know.
ReplyDeleteRecord collector nitpick: The original 45 single of "He's a Rebel" - the one that went to #1 - did not have a biker on its sleeve. It came in a generic "company" sleeve adorned with the logo of Philles Records. The sleeve with the biker is actually the cover of the album He's a Rebel, released subsequently.
ReplyDelete@GILL I - I linked to the Wikipedia article. I've been to Russia several times. In Russian, they're vareniki or pelmeni (if they're the smaller ones.) A pirog is a meat pie in Russian. It's quite possible that Russians in America have adopted to calling vareniki pirogi/perogi/pierogi as that's the word that hit our shores first via the Poles.
ReplyDeleteHere's another cite if you don't believe me: https://www.netcostmarket.com/all-you-need-to-know-about-pelmeni-vareniki-and-pierogi/#:~:text=Pelmeni%2C%20Vereniki%2C%20and%20Pierogi%20are,and%20Eastern%20Europe%20(pierogi).&text=Vareniki%20and%20pierogi%20are%20popular,confusingly%2C%20actually%20the%20same%20thing!
"Pelmeni, Vereniki, and Pierogi are all types of dumplings that are found in either Russia (pelmeni and vareniki), or Central and Eastern Europe (pierogi)."
Easy-medium. No real problems with this one and no WOEs. Minor spelling issues were the only nanosecond drains....PIROGI, SATE....Solid but not much sparkle, liked it.
ReplyDeleteFortunately for me, since Chicago blues and old-school soul/R&B are directly in my wheelhouse, ELMORE James and PEABO Bryson came easily to me (although I dispute the idea that James is consiered the "king" of the slide guitar; he was a master at it, but there were others who were more innovative and subtle in their playing -- start with Robert Nighthawk and Earl Hooker and go on from there). All in all, though, I found this puzz to be over-laden with names/proper nouns. And I still don't see how/why APERY is "making an impression" (even though CHEETA would no doubt disagree with me!) --
ReplyDelete. . . and yes, @albatross shell, if we're going to go back in history a little bit, then Tampa Red would definitely be in the running as a "King" of slide guitar. And that doesn't even take us back into the Delta with Charlie Patton, Robert Johnson, et al. . .
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ReplyDelete. . . . . . and since everyone is giving props to Mary Lou --
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMoLGe1-x4c
(** STUPID QUESTION ALERT!! ** -- How does one create an actual link here? I'd like folks to be able to click on that URL and go directly to the song I'm referring to. Any instructions?)
Pretty amazing that after APP ( clued as “Intro course?”) was questioned pretty vociferously by some here as not being in the language two days ago, APPS appears today, clued as “Starters, for short.” I think that @Anoa Bob is on to something with his meta-uber-mind game that Herr Shortz is playing with us.
ReplyDeleteFor those who frown on foreign expressions in the puzzles, DELTACO is Spanish for “of the taco”.
This didn’t play especially hard for me, in fact I was quite a bit faster than yesterday. Just one of them house o’ wheels things I guess.
As it happened, I had only the final _________RAP when I really focused on 6A. I was delighted to throw down bullcRAP as the answer for Balderdash. Shortly thereafter I had to cut the bullcRAP.
I was surprised to see that the very woke Rex dwelled on his thoughts about CAMEL toes. If there is a term more indicative of a leering Neanderthal mind set, I can’t think of it.
Oh,BTW, I enjoyed the puzzle a lot. Thanks, Mary Lou Guizzo.
I'm with those who found it challenging and needed to pick-pick-pick away at the grid in order to finish. I'd expected that the fine COMBO HE'S A REBEL and STACEY ABRAMS would give me plenty to work with, but not so - just a trickle of Downs that soon ran dry. So I needed a bunch of those tiny toe-holds @Unknown 7:27 described - EGAN, PHO, PERE, OYL - to crack open the sub-AREAs. Last in: COMBO x CAMELSPIN.
ReplyDeleteRewards: CLAPTRAP + OPERATICS, OPERA next to MET, the parallel LAY IT ON and LET IT BE, Slowed down by rejecting: pierogi and satay SAUCE. Do-overs: LutE before LYRE, APing, frolic before PRANCE. No idea: ELMORE, PEABO.
@jazzman
ReplyDeleteEmail me and I'll send you my Embedding Cheat Sheet.
@Lewis (6:36 AM)
ReplyDeleteLove 'faith solve'! :)
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Wordle 238 4/6*
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Peace ~ Compassion ~ Tolerance ~ Kindness to all 🕊
@anon10:16 and @Peter P - PPP (Pop Culture, Product Names, and other Proper Nouns) are always “easy if you know it, hard if you don’t,” and so we have made some general observations over the years. The most familiar is “natick,” related to that is the inherent unfairness of crossing unusual names at a vowel, and finally that when a puzzle is 33% or more PPP some subset of solvers invariably struggle mightily while other solvers find it easy. This puzzle has 22 PPP clue/answers by my count, for 31.4% of the puzzle. Not quite across the line, but getting pretty close. There are some international answers here, though, so it’s not actually all that New York or America-centric. We have a EuroVision champion, a Spanish landmark, and a southern Africa language, plus today’s menu is international. I don’t disagree with @anon in principle, but this is not the worst we have seen.
ReplyDelete@aslightrain - To me there’s a huge difference between scrabbly letters that arise naturally and enliven a puzzle and cramming them in a puzzle, especially in tight corners, just to up the scrabble values. CONTEXT IS KEY is good in a puzzle, x-ray rarely is.
@other David - Except SATE would typically be said with a long A and a silent E in English and is an entirely different word when said that way, so if a writer wants to avoid confusion they will need to spell it in a way that conveys how the vowels are pronounced. SATÉ strikes me as too hoity toity, so I’d go with SATay, which is how I normally see it. SATE strikes me as the worst way to spell it.
@Unknown 10:34 - I am loathe to call a clue “wrong,” but it does look like leaving out the word “song” from the clue makes this wrong. Not that I know the difference, bit the Oscars’ website supports what you say.
@Gill I - I do like peanut sauce, I’d just spell it differently. But I will happily SATE my appetite with some SATay.
@Beezer - I’ve disparaged Illinois? Ohio and Indiana and Texas I believe, but I don’t remember disparaging Illinois. Being a fan of Detroit sports teams I will happily disparage MJ and the White Sox manager, but I like Chicago otherwise.
@jazz
ReplyDeleteI’ve tried this, it may work (leave off the initial and terminal quotation marks):
“<a href="https://WEBSITE”>LINK TEXT</a>“
Substitute the actual website link and what you want the link to appear as for the capitalized words.
I'm in the Lewis camp. I feel very good about solving this puzzle, because it looked hopeless for a while. I did end up needing to read my s.o. (a puzzle non-aficionado) a couple of clues in his wheelhouse i.e. CASA Mila, so I'm not quite as thrilled as otherwise.
ReplyDeleteI didn’t know anything except LAO, RUG, and PHO on my first pass. HESAREBEL and MERLIN made me smile.
I had an easier time than many of us, possibly because SPADER was a gimme. The Blacklist isn't very good but SPADER was wonderful in Boston Legal. Most of the episodes ended showing him and William Shatner, sitting on a balcony, smoking a cigar and drinking Scotch, and musing philosophically about life. Great television.
ReplyDelete@pabloinnh refers to OGL this morning. I think he's referring to Rex. Our Goofy Leader?
After two straight bogies, I parred today. I thought that was pretty good because I didn't have a green on my first three shots. Congratulations those who birdied.
If I remember my movies and tv accurately ("Men in Black", furinstance), PIROGIs are depicted as a Polish dish.
ReplyDelete@Unknown 10:34 is correct – the 7d clue has the wrong award. Three music Oscars were bestowed for 1970: Best Original Score, which "Love Story" won; Best Original Song, which this → 🟦* won; and Best Original Song Score, which the Beatles won. The last category had gone through various name changes over the years, until it was done away with altogether in 1980. Its purpose seems to have been to cover films that included a large amount of on-screen song performances, as opposed to dramatic films that had only standard background scores.
ReplyDeleteMore "He's A Rebel" trivia, if you didn't know: the Crystals did not actually sing on the Crystals' hit recording. It was a different girl group called the Blossoms, whose lead singer was Darlene Love. Phil Spector had the Crystals signed to his label and wanted to rush out a recording of "He's A Rebel" before Vikki Carr's (!) release, but he was in California and the Crystals were in New York, so he enlisted the Blossoms, who were in California, to sing it and then credited it to the Crystals.
*Two of the writers of 🟦 were members of the wimp-rock group BREAD.
Pretty surprised that ETUI, which has appeared in the NYTXW 101 times in the Shortz Era alone is not an acceptable SB word.
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ReplyDeleteHES A REBEL has got to be brutal for anyone under 50 (maybe under 60, lol)
Or, anyone who skewed toward public/college radio folk/jazz feeds. Crystals? Aren't they New Age thingees?
@puzzle:
BRAS surprised me the most. I expected it to be TEAS so obviously I was thinking of the wrong kind of cup.
Watch enough cable-only re-run channels, and you'll see lotsa commercials for stuff you never imagined.
Speaking of curling... there's a report on doping in the rest of the paper today (dead trees division), and one of the caught was a curler???? Why would a curler need PED?????
@Z. I said in the NW part of my state NEAR Chicago. Nuff said. 🙂
ReplyDelete@Anonymous (10:16) You “guess Americans just want crossword to be only enjoyed by themselves by making it so esoteric to exclude anyone not familiar with American culture and not born a half century ago.” Yes, proper names and trivia can be quite frustrating. If you read this blog regularly, you will know there are a number of us who occasionally complain because the Crossword is too modern or too youthful for those of us who are of an older generation. On the other hand, younger solvers are sometimes unhappy with clues that are from too far in the past. Also there are days when I get frustrated with the “New York City” trivia because I’m not as familiar with it as are those who live there. But as @Peter P acknowledged, I am doing a Crossword published by the New York Times, so that’s to be expected.
ReplyDeleteI admire your ability to solve even though English is not your first language. I would imagine its not easy. I’ve never tried to do a word puzzle which originated in another country, but if I did I would fully assume it’s going to be filled with French, German, Spanish, Russian, etc. related clues, as the case may be. I would not expect it to be about American culture from any century. If I didn’t know the answers, that would be due to my lack of familiarity and not a failing on the part of the constructor or the publication.
My favorite clueing turned out to be a mirage: ME led me to MESMER as the spelling expert. Was very disappointed to see it was MERLIN.
ReplyDelete@Beezer - Whiting PIEROGI fest represent! :)
ReplyDelete@zex - i like CONTEXT IS KEY as well as x-ray on occasion (<--context is key!). to me there's not really any such thing as "scrabbly letters." rather, there are 26 letters (in the alphabet used in american crosswords). some letters are comparatively rare, but many of the words they are in are not (quiet, fix, joke, zero, wave, etc.). their rarity is part of what makes them interesting, as they often highlight the highly diverse sources of the english lexicon, especially as compared to it's germanic and romance language relatives. thus using less common letters or all of the letters can both make a puzzle more interesting and pose a challenge to the constructor. it's not exactly clear what rex finds so cool or most-original-looking about the phrase compared to comparable entries in other puzzles that he has pooh-poohed. i can ignore this usually, but what frustrated me today was that he combined this with his tendency to center how "[his] mind goes" when considering the validity, in-the-language-ness, or whatever of an entry. but whatever, i'm moving on : )
ReplyDelete@mathgent--Pretty sure OGL was just a simple typo, but I may have been subconsciously thinking of "Our Glorious Leader".
ReplyDelete@JoeD-Great back story on The Crystals. Love that suff.
@Peter P! You totally nailed it! Right in the shadow of the BP refinery….Many folks from Hammond and the rest of da Region attend. I’m not from that part of the state but spent a lot of time up there due to my job.
ReplyDelete30A is a poor clue. PIROGI *is* an alternate spelling of "pierogi;" it is also the plural of the Russian/East-Slavic word "pirog." But the Russian equivalent of Polish pierogi are called either pelmeni or varenyky, and these are distinct from pirogi, which is not a dumpling but a larger baked case of dough. It is true that in German and English multiple variants of pierogi are used to refer to any kind of Eastern European filled pastry including dumplings -so why not just clue it as "Polish dumplings?" If Russian pirogi is indeed what was meant, it should have been clued without using the word "dumplings."
ReplyDeleteMore on pirogi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirog
RE: LET IT BE
ReplyDeleteThe error, instead of being the wrong Oscar award, may have been the incorrect award entirely. LET IT BE won the Grammy for best original score. Not that I would of noticed either mistake.
The 1970 movie won in 1971 as stated in the clue if they had said Grammy.
Two days in a row with award errors. Looking forward to Sunday.
@Lewis nailed it. Quite tough sledding, so when I finished it felt great.
ReplyDeleteFor some reason, here in Canada it's PEROGY. There are lots of Ukrainians in Winnipeg, where I was first introduced to the dish. Great winter comfort food. I actually prefer it with mayonnaise rather than sour cream.
Instead of LEGATO I had ROTINI at first. Don't ask. For 2 down, I also had OVERACTED until the last minute. It fits the clue, as the past tense of the verb exaggerate rather than as a noun.
[SB yd 0. td pg in 3:30!]
I had to look up CAMELSPIN, which I guess I have seen off and on during these Olympics, but I detest figure skating these days. And I missed OPERATICS so a double DNF there.
ReplyDeleteI shook my head at PIROGI. I always think of PI(E)ROGI as Polish. In Russia they have piroshki. Not exactly the same thing, and there are PIROGI in parts of Russia too. I think I have only had PIROGI in New York. But I have fond memories of piroshki in San Francisco. The Inner Richmond neighborhood was famous for Russian pastries, and as hungry college students we sometimes went there for a nosh. The Russians there were White Russians. No not necessarily from White Russia, now called Belarus, but because they were refugees from the Russian Civil War starting in 1917, and continuing into the early Twenties. The Communists wore red, the anti-communists wore white, or those at least were their nicknames. The Inner Richmond was a hotbed of anticommunism.
Oddly enough, the same neighborhood was also Irish, and in particular was where the I.R.A. types hung out and drank their Guinness. Plenty of Irish all over the City, but the bars in the Richmond were very political. These same bars doubled as the offices for many Irish contractors, and if a construction crew lost a few members over lunch, replacements were hired straight from the bar. Fun times!
Brilliant post by J. Diefenbaker (9:21) on his curling team. I am taking it as a swipe at the introduction of Wordle posts.
ReplyDeleteCurlin is by far M&A's main fave Olympics game to watch. Just enjoyed a whole passel of curlin this AM. Luvly. Combines chess strategy with cowchip tossin. Meanwhile, @RP is watchin the skatin competitions for CAMELTOES? har
ReplyDelete@Lewis: M&A ain't ever met a SatPuz here that he didn't end up faith-solvin. But today, had some massive ah-hallelujah moments, with:
* STACEYABRAMS darlin. Off very few letters.
* LEGATO/PIROGI. Somehow, I knew these were words. Tried em out. Much to M&A's amazement, they endured.
* HESAREBEL. Gimme. Got this 45 rpm-er.
* LETITBE. ditto. That 1970 date really nailed it for m&e.
* CHEETA. Have watched all the T-zen flicks, includin the silent cliffhanger serial one. Another gimme.
* CLAPTRAP. Easy, thanx to LETITBE & CHEETA pavin the way.
With all the above's help, M&A really got off to an extra-nice SatPuz start.
Fortunately, PENTAGRAM/SATESAUCE/EGAN/DELTACO/APPS kinda slapped my solvequest back to normal SatPuz reality. The nanoseconds began to do penance for their earlier gluttony.
staff weeject pick: NSA. Kinda got fascinated with the "metadata" of mystery part of the clue. But, but … the most fascinatin word in any of today's clues goes to …
** Ambigram! **
Luv it. Them dealies have gotta be in a runtpuz, pronto. I want. to. go. to. there. [dibbies]
Thanx for satin M&A's sauce, Ms. Guizzomeister darlin. Great job.
Masked & AnonymoUUs
**gruntz**
Did anyone else watch the Canadian womens curling team get eliminated by a single millimeter last week? It was riveting theatre (almost as good as watching green paint dry). It will still be better than the lead up to the Stupid Bowl tomorrow.
ReplyDeleteI thought this was a fairly easy Saturday grid but I never got to finish it as I projectile vomited on my iPad when Rexacommie’s ‘worthy public figure’ appeared. That ‘public figure’ is truly larger than life. Also larger than an elephant!
ReplyDeleteAgree w 🦖 on every point.🎯
ReplyDeleteEnjoyed seeing Abrams. Good 🧩!
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Saturdays are always too hard for me, this one no exception. Just don't know enough stuff. Guesswork can only get you so far - maybe a third of the way, with the Goog now and then to confirm. I'm with @rex re satay; SATE = wth.
ReplyDeleteyd -2; td -2.
In general, I though this was a fun puzzle. I don't much like meta puzzles when I find them a bit obscure. More about that later. But I did like today's puzzle.
ReplyDeleteI did not like that my comment yesterday never published. My fault, I believe, But it is annoying you can't retrieve your comment if you screw up. It wasn't important enough to retype.
I've been looking at old PBS Nature shows. One was about how chimpanzees were mistreated by humans. I consider myself lucky that, unlike Sharp, I tend to forget about such things when solving puzzles.
Z: When I worked at OSHA, their national training center was in Des Plains so I spent a lot of time visiting Chicago. I think it is really a great city (with an outstanding botanical gardens) that I like to visit when driving between my residence and that of my brother's. And the brewery by O'Hare is quite good.
My maternal grandparents moved here from Austria-Hungary earlier last century. Here in Yonkers, I can buy pierogis from both a Ukrainian and a Polish store. My grandmother, who was Slovak, used to make them homemade, but she hid the recipe from my mother. I think the pierogi is more a Slavic food than related to a specific nationality. Each ethnicity uses its own variation of the basic recipe. And after all, I think the food itself predates establishment of most of the nations. Whatever, I love them. Pre-cook them and then reheat them in the oven and serve with cooked onions. They should be light, not heavy. Yum.
@Peter P: 11:04
ReplyDeleteI'm sure you're completely correct...as many others who posted here. I'm basing the Pirogi being made by my Russian friends telling me how everyone in their homeland LOVED this dumpling. I had never had one before and I got the story about how every grandmother learns to make them when they can barely walk.
I'm sure the spelling maybe has to do with it?
Food and its original is interesting to me. I suppose when you make the best of (name your dish) , then you're going to claim it as your own.
Take an empanada: the Spaniards say they invented it. The Argentines lay claim and the Mexicans aren't far behind.
An empanada can be known as a samosa, sombusa or even somas. They are ALL empanadas and they pretty much are made the same way. Just add a little hot sauce and do a fandango tango.
Also similar are a Pasty, a Meat Pie and a Chinese Dumpling. They are not all empanadas though. They were all developed individually. And I thought Samosas were from India. Just because something is similar doesn’t mean it originated from the same culture or location.
Delete@TJS 10:21a - not a Fab Four aficionado myself but thought the connection between ELMORE and LET IT BE in the same puzzle was neat. If you have plenty of bourbon and 30 hours of downtime the recent Peter Jackson telling of Get Back is an interesting period piece.
ReplyDeleteThank you all for your illuminating comments.
ReplyDeleteAnd I'd love to hear how others' curling teams are doing. What a sport!
Help!! I can't get to Wordle. It won't open. I E-subscribe to the NYT and it isn't on the games page. Anyone?
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@Egsforbreakfast -- Why are camel's toes un-woke and Neanderthal?
ReplyDeleteFood stuffed in dough, then fried, then garnished with sauce. The innards vary. The sauce varies. I suppose the dough even varies. But it's all the same thing to me and I just politely nod and smile when anyone claims their ethnic group invented the idea. Raising wheat is one of the key things that led to cities, so my guess is that PIROGI are nearly as old as civilization.
ReplyDelete@Beezer - Well, okay. I was being obtuse but yes, guilty as charged.
@Les Habs - Curling is an addictive watch. Like @Magnificent Masked One said, chess combined with cowchip tossing. As with many sports, new viewers do not have any idea how difficult what they are watching is to do or what any of the strategy is that's happening.
@aslightrain - what frustrated me today was that he combined this with his tendency to center how "[his] mind goes" when considering the validity, in-the-language-ness, or whatever of an entry. - Others have made similar points in the past and I always find it a little odd. The name of the place is Rex Parker Does the New York Times Crossword Puzzle. Why is it frustrating that he provides his opinion of what is good, bad, or what he thought as he solved. That's exactly what he is offering and that's what you got.
@Anon12:16 - A Curling Stone weighs about 40 pounds, plus they are putting spin on it, plus there is sweeping which is more aerobic than it looks. Without knowing specifics, most PEDs either make you stronger or shorten recovery time. Either would be beneficial to a curler.
@egs12:14 - Yet another reason I'll never do the Bee.
@Everyone - Yes, I am mildly chortling that the false equivalence of the day is Curling. I'm not watching any of the Olympics because of the IOC and China, but Curling is the only sport I really miss watching. Maybe some of the downhill skiing, but not as much. Bowling was a good one except for the "played one game" thing made it too obvious of a lie, but don't tempt people with Curling... Now if there were only a way to combine Curling and wordle, something called "Curdle" maybe.
@Camels 4:00 - Goggle it. (pun intended)
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Guard noise, right?
Exact. Exalt!
Alone.
Strip, stall, stalk...
...debit.
Radio tunes yield "Belle" flick
Ultra-noise:
bialy bigot? Valid.
I solved the puzzle and read all the comments as of then 4 hours ago, but McAfee has installed a vpn on my phone that let me read them but would not let me post. I've been trying to figure out how to turn that off, but it doesn't seem to work. (The problem is only when I'm using an insecure network, or cellular data). So I'll just say a few things.
ReplyDeleteFirst, great puzzle, very challenging to me. When 'nonsense' didn't fit at 6A I had absolutely nothing until I got to ERRS. Many other problems. Fortunately, I had read a comic strip only yesterday where one character was asking whether the other preferred Taco Bell or DEL TACO, and she (a Latina) replied that neither was a real taco. Since I'd never heard of the latter, that was a big help. (My first fast-food taco was at a Jack-in-the-Box.)
i didn't know aht PEABO guy, wanted my agent to be getting me BOOK sales, not dEALS; and it took far too long to get STACEY ABRAMS because I think of her as a once and future gubernatorial candidate more than a voting rights activist.
In the end, it almost came together, but I went with CONTEnT IS KEY. I know about the X GAMES, but not what events they include, so I decided there might be N games, as well. A stupid error, because I had thought of the X earlier, but didn't try it out.
According to Wikipedia, organologists disagree as to whether the zither is related to the LYRE. I went with LutE until I could see that 18A had to be some kind of CITY.
I solved the puzzle with a hair salon, where I go with my wife every 7 weeks. Another customer left, saying "SEE YA SOON," to which her hairdresser replied, "see you later." Interesting.
@camels are very nice animals 4:00 pm. You should Google camel toes and let me know if you have any additional questions.
ReplyDelete@GILL I…I’m sure Russians make PIROGIS/PIEROGIS especially Russians closer to Poland…Belarus, etc. We nitpickers are just pointing out that Russia was not a good reference point since they are more often identified as Polish. Btw, the sound like a cook extraordinaire so I think I would like whatever you would whip up be it empanada, samosa, or pierogi with a twist!
ReplyDelete@Z…I doubt whether you are ever really obtuse…probably just somewhat distracted. Just remember that even states that you think are s-hole states have SOME normal people. Uh oh. I may be in trouble now for saying THAT! Anyway…I say YES to Michigan BUT the fact it has SO much Great Lakes shoreline AND the U.P. may be the only thing that makes it different from it’s neighbors, and I’d be interested to see what you say about that but this is a late post that might not be seen. And might I add (not in malice) that you have no beef with Illinois due to Chicago. Pretty sure the rest of Illinois is pretty red AND the geography is pretty much the same as Ohio and Indiana. Phew! Did I vent or what!?
Okay. This is getting out of control:
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@Brian - No, but @JC66 posted a link that should work for you.
ReplyDeleteGot it, thanks!
DeleteNo patience for this tonight. The multitude of names, foreign words, and clues I don't understand (cuup, cygnet, ambigram) I lost interest in even trying. Maybe I could have persevered and eventually finished like last night, but so many obscure names and foreign words was just too much of a turnoff.
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ReplyDeleteFor some reason, the link I posted doesn't work in Safari, but it works in Chrome.
Ok Thanks, and thank you to @Zex!
DeleteI really couldn't believe SATE was the answer because there are more online search results that say Sate is NOT peanut based, versus satay. But I did find one result that says it is an alternative/new spelling. I guess they had to go with the peanut clue because if they just said spicy Indonesian go with, very few people would get it. But it felt like a weak fill.
ReplyDeleteHorrible Puzzle that uses Alternative Spellings, too many obscure Names, and Poor Clueing to make it more difficult. Sate, Pirogi - all crap. Fairly sure Pierogis are Polish. Soon it will be Phu or Phe or Phuh instead of Pho.
ReplyDeleteWatching Olymics whenever I can ... CAMEL SPIN was almost immediate but I did wait for a cross. SATE SAUCE also went in easily ... no other spelling occurred to me.
ReplyDeleteCONTEXT IS all (Hi, Nancy) and tommyrot were my major mixups. And for some reason, I put in tEen angEL before HESAREBEL
Found this one pretty easy till I got to that accursed NW. Horrendous! Saying CAMELSPIN is like saying hamburger sandwich. You already know it's a #@*&! spin! It's called a flying camel. That threw me off. Then there's OPERATICS, unknown as defined in the clue. I kept wanting to start it with OVERsomething. APERY is legitimate but so little used now...
ReplyDeleteAnd in the middle of all this is the PIROGI kerfuffle. I wound up putting it in as a spelling variant to get the puzzle finished, but subsequent research was eye-opening. Y'all are correct that the PIEROGI is native to Poland, not Russia. But there's an entirely different dish, the PIROG (plural -I), which is a Russian pastry larger than its Polish cousin.
I got it done, no thanks to that NW. One of those "easy-challenging" jobs that's tough to average out. PRANCE crossing CANTER was amusing. Birdie.
Liked it a lot. Tricky, especially in the NW corner, but fair.
ReplyDeleteGoing to make it a point to use CLAPTRAP, nonchalantly, in a conversation today. Maybe more than once.
ReplyDeleteThere was a church in my neighborhood in Philly that used to make PIROGI on Thursdays - I can still smell them! Now I get baklava at the Greek Orthodox festivals. And, of course, I wanted some kind of "overemoting" before OPERATICS showed up.
Diana, Lady-in-Waiting for Crosswords, keeping APERY alive
Mary Lou always has to include a member of the Lunatic Fringe in her puzzles.
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ReplyDeleteHE'SAREBEL you can't HATE.
He'll LAYITON, but LETITBE.
ABIDE his OPERATIC State,
with APERY, CONTEXTISKEY.
--- ELMORE "PEABO" OLSEN
Worked right down from the top with minor stumbles on PeROGI and at first MEsmer before MERLIN. ELMORE James a gimme thanks to the music of Stevie Ray Vaughn and Duane Allman. So pretty much an easy trip from COMBO to OLSEN, which would be great with the twins. HELLO!?
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