tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35115061.post7048502010754345904..comments2024-03-28T12:49:16.793-04:00Comments on Rex Parker Does the NYT Crossword Puzzle: Old Icelandic saga / TUE 6-12-18 / Cat burglar's shoe purchase / Polynesian shindig / Loudly crying face for one / Makeba singer known as Mama AfricaRex Parkerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16145707733877505087noreply@blogger.comBlogger93125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35115061.post-33557544784270438582018-07-17T14:33:13.257-04:002018-07-17T14:33:13.257-04:00Decent puzzle which has generated a lot of discuss...Decent puzzle which has generated a lot of discussion about SUCTION, a term which is regularly misused, but which has currency in the lexicon. Just as a "push" is a "pull" from a different perspective, or the term "centrifugal" is really "centripetal", it's a matter of direction of a force. Pressure differential is required for a pump to work. You can call it SUCTION or you can call it "compression" - push/pull. There you go.<br /><br />Actually, when my wife was lactating, she used a SUCTION PUMP to express milk into bottles for later use.<br /><br />In the Sixties, when I went through my folkie period, MIRIAM Makeba was a favourite of mine. Lovely voice.<br /><br />The puzzle itself was a very good example of competent construction. While it didn't rise to the level of "excitement", it was enjoyable for its theme/revealer content and for a nice mix of clues/entries. Liked it.rainforestnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35115061.post-16465245889071648582018-07-17T14:25:41.374-04:002018-07-17T14:25:41.374-04:00"Just for kicks" means just for fun - fo..."Just for kicks" means just for fun - for the heck of it, in my world. And remember, Kix are for kids. Silly rabbit.<br /><br />Fairly easy - most answers were a shoe-in. Did someone else say that? Must go read comments.<br /><br />Diana (Shoeless Jo for Crosswords), WaitingDiana,LIWnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35115061.post-85430907712569939652018-07-17T14:07:55.937-04:002018-07-17T14:07:55.937-04:00Pretty neat and clean, but not a whole lot of KICK...Pretty neat and clean, but not a whole lot of KICK here, though sufficient for today.<br /><br />Wouldn't try too much kicking when wearing MOCCASINS. <br /><br />So EMINEM has an alter ego named Slim Shady. News to me.<br /><br />SAM has some prominence in the puzzle, but no room for Tracy? <br /><br /><br />leftcoastTAMnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35115061.post-20202812827849589102018-07-17T11:21:19.240-04:002018-07-17T11:21:19.240-04:00@Rondo: 56 million views, and I never heard of her...@Rondo: 56 million views, and I never heard of her before...<br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59Q_lhgGANc" rel="nofollow">Jain - Makeba</a> (Official Video)thefogmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01870509029973778266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35115061.post-47187295946116616682018-07-17T10:05:42.231-04:002018-07-17T10:05:42.231-04:00GEE, where have I been? I didn’t know KICKS was sl...GEE, where have I been? I didn’t know KICKS was slang for shoes. Learnin’ something each day this week. I don’t see OFL’s point on TBOONE, that’s all you ever hear. WATERMOCCASINS has gotta BEE the highlight.<br /><br />A coupla years ago a French artist, stage name “Jain”, released an album with a song in tribute to MIRIAM Makeba. 89.3 The Current gave it plenty of airplay and even HAD Jain in studio for an interview. Her song is not one of the GREATS, but Jain, yeah baby.<br /><br />Neither is this puz one of the GREATS, EVEN for a Tuesday. It’s one of the OKAYS.<br />rondonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35115061.post-67245485213535862692018-07-17T09:27:11.988-04:002018-07-17T09:27:11.988-04:00Maybe it could have used another themer, but this ...Maybe it could have used another themer, but this one was fine for a Tuesday.thefogmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01870509029973778266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35115061.post-67357710144642801182018-07-17T09:20:01.988-04:002018-07-17T09:20:01.988-04:00GONOW!
GEE, WHATATREAT YOUWIN if you are WHODAT g...GONOW!<br /><br />GEE, WHATATREAT YOUWIN if you are WHODAT girl picks,<br />you’re ONTAP to begin the DEED she’ll do JUSTFORKICKS.<br /><br />--- JOJO OBAMA<br />Burma Shavenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35115061.post-72454928913919497012018-06-13T09:14:12.429-04:002018-06-13T09:14:12.429-04:00@Z:
1 - your cars oil pump, and most liquid pumps...@Z:<br /><br />1 - your cars oil pump, and most liquid pumps, don't work by atm. pressure (or, its lack, vacuum), but simply pushing the liquid. there's a gear immersed in the oil, and contained in a shaped orifice. the gear spins, pushing the oil from the inlet side to the outlet side. there's no atm. in the pump. let atm. in, and the pump fails. it's no different from you pushing your rubber ducky from one side of the bathtub to the other.<br /><br />2 - many liquids, water in particular, are incompressible. that's why the master cylinder of your car's brakes can push a 3 or 4 sq. in. piston with 100s of lbs of pressure to the calipers through a brake line the diameter of the lead in a common pencil: the pressure/area is constant no matter the area.Banana Diaquirinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35115061.post-6309520812680413132018-06-13T08:26:45.173-04:002018-06-13T08:26:45.173-04:00@Bill L - Huh? Aren’t all fluids compressible? And...@Bill L - Huh? Aren’t all fluids compressible? And pumps specifically move fluids. So it seems to me steam can be pumped. @Science? Facts? example seems muddled to me. There is a difference between a machine that pushes fluids and a device that pumps fluids. So, I’m still unswayed. Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16181544219511150272noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35115061.post-41601715505055602412018-06-13T06:41:03.034-04:002018-06-13T06:41:03.034-04:00we're getting into the weeds here. Compressibl...we're getting into the weeds here. Compressible fluids like steam and air can not be "pumped". For example, steam in a power generation plant must be condensed (think of cooling towers) before it can be pumped back into the boiler to be reheated (very inefficient). It's all a matter of definition. Do air compressors, blowers and fans fall under the general definition of "pump"? For that matter, is a screw pump really a pump or is it a conveyor? @Z - "pumps suck" -- no, they do not, that was @Science? Facts? point. Pumps create a low-pressure zone in the volute on the "suction side" and atmospheric pressure pushes fluid into that zone. On the other side of that low pressure zone is the discharge side where the fluid is then pumped to a higher pressure. Bill L.https://www.blogger.com/profile/08886581691063755810noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35115061.post-62335561303656869252018-06-13T04:48:26.151-04:002018-06-13T04:48:26.151-04:00Man o Man - It sure seems to me that, based on wha...Man o Man - It sure seems to me that, based on what I’m gleaning here, a “pump” by definition uses some sort of pressure differential in a fluid, i.e. a pump sucks. @Banana Diaquiri - I did and it seems to me that there’s pressure differential created in a car’s oil pump. Based on everything I’ve seen so far the only ”pump” that doesn’t use suction is actually a screw, not a pump. Again, way out of my depth here, but “suction” does seem redundant. Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16181544219511150272noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35115061.post-60555771719131302952018-06-13T03:27:50.396-04:002018-06-13T03:27:50.396-04:00mp." Anyway, I'm not questioning its some...mp." Anyway, I'm not questioning its somethingness, just saying that PUMPS took every cross to get. After that, nothing was particularly tough, but then I know "ABIE Baby" because it's crosswordese and IROC because it's crosswordese and EDDA because well actually because I'm a medievalist but also because it's crosswordese. Particularly with something like "ABIE Baby," where it's a proper noun and bygone and crosswordese, I feel guilty for plunking it down immediately. <a href="http://luck999.com" rel="nofollow">바카라사이트</a>This puzzle skews awfully old, now that I look at it. Who says WHO DAT? (besides ... maybe Saints fans? Bengals fans? I forghayuen51@gmail.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04653117565237892520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35115061.post-34772402984766819522018-06-12T23:41:02.969-04:002018-06-12T23:41:02.969-04:00This whole PUMP conversation SUCKS.This whole PUMP conversation SUCKS.JC66https://www.blogger.com/profile/05324615675333287919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35115061.post-2560685890805738492018-06-12T23:33:20.914-04:002018-06-12T23:33:20.914-04:00All pumps work the same way: They take a fluid an...All pumps work the same way: They take a fluid and push it out the exhaust. Just think of a fan - the blade is at an angle, and when it spins around the angle pushes the air it encounters forward. Your vacuum cleaner is nothing but a fan with very confined hoses at either end, focusing the intensity of the work being performed.<br /><br />For a pump to work the fluid being pushed forward has to be refreshed on a continuous basis, otherwise no pumping can take place. All pumps create low pressure on the input side of the machine, and whatever ambient pressure exists in the surrounding volume (atmospheric pressure, hydrostatic pressure from surrounding water, ...) presses the fluid into the area the pump has just evacuated. A vacuum cleaner works by atmospheric pressure forcing air into the area which has just had all the air there pumped out. The pump isn't sucking the air in (you can't pull a fluid any more than you can push on a string), the outside pressure is pushing the air in, and it then gets pushed out the exhaust by the fan.<br /><br />Those fans you put in the window on a hot summer's day? One way it's an exhaust fan, turn it 180 degrees and it's an input fan. In truth it's neither an exhaust or an input fan, it's just a fan. That sump pump you having in your basement that you think is a suction pump? Hook it up to a nose connected to your outdoor faucet when you want to wash your car with a high pressure rinse. That "suction pump" just became a "high pressure pump" but it's really just a pump.Petenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35115061.post-66456042857786488852018-06-12T23:01:20.500-04:002018-06-12T23:01:20.500-04:00I just read @Bubblehead's comments and should ...I just read @Bubblehead's comments and should have added that my comments apply to non-compressible pumps (liquids). Compressible fluid pumps have a whole different set of equations but still have a suction side, per Bubblehead. I've not dealt with those. Monty Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03924320449868956299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35115061.post-14091200557451388422018-06-12T22:54:04.365-04:002018-06-12T22:54:04.365-04:00In my fluid mechanics classes (I'm an engineer...In my fluid mechanics classes (I'm an engineer also), we show that conventional pumps like we use today put energy into the fluid. The result is a difference in pressure on the two sides of the pump, higher pressure on the outlet, lower pressure on the inlet, hence a suction from one side to the other. Without getting too math-ey, the energy equation is used to calculate the diffference in pressures. Pumps today are suction pumps. <br /><br />The Archimedes screw has the same pressure on both ends (open water in a canal system usually) so it does not use a suction. Wikipedia says some screw pumps are inline and do generate a suction, but I've not dealt with those.Monty Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03924320449868956299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35115061.post-17508714606206040952018-06-12T22:04:51.826-04:002018-06-12T22:04:51.826-04:00Late comment so no one will read this but I'll...Late comment so no one will read this but I'll chime in on the "suction pump"issue.<br /><br />My only pump experience was as an engineer on a nuclear submarine, but fortunately they just happen to be the High Holy Vatican of pumps. Centrifugal, pumps, piston pumps, plunger pumps, gear pumps, you name it we had it.<br /><br />Most everyone seems to be talking about liquid pumps which generally need a "suction head" of at least atmospheric pressure but oftentimes a lot more. Air pumps don't need a suction head, because they are suction pumps. Such as:<br /><br />The supercharger on our Fairbanks-Morse ND8-1/8 diesel generator was a positive displacement roots blower air pump that could draw a vacuum in a compartment if ventilation was misaligned, and there was an auto-cutoff if this happened. It was a suction pump of the first magnitude. In case of a fire the first action was to snorkel and start the diesel and get its suction lined up to the affected compartment because it could suck in vast quantities and could clear the smoke quickly (which would be dense and deadly). The "Low Pressure Blower" up forward was also a roots blower that was a full-on suction pump with a positive displacement discharge.<br /><br />Yep, those were suction pumps.Bubbleheadnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35115061.post-50372135479448716962018-06-12T21:31:59.657-04:002018-06-12T21:31:59.657-04:00I know 'Beauty Spots-SPAS' was used last S...I know 'Beauty Spots-SPAS' was used last Sunday. I think he means recent clue/answer repeats. Jonahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13268749603558890511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35115061.post-75006638274102757552018-06-12T19:53:51.614-04:002018-06-12T19:53:51.614-04:00I’m inclined to go along with Malsdemare’s husband...I’m inclined to go along with Malsdemare’s husband and not take this too seriously. I’m an ME working mostly in the municipal water and wastewater field, and I design lot of pump systems. To answer @Z’s question, Archimedes' screw pumps don’t use suction and are useful for moving large amounts of water a short vertical distance. They’re used a lot at the entrance to wastewater treatment plants to lift the fluid from the gravity sewer collection system below grade to the treatment works above grade.<br /><br />I started writing an explanation of why, IMO, “suction pump” is not a thing but decided against boring you all with it. @Science? Facts? (12:39) offered a nice concise explanation – it’s all about atmospheric pressure.<br /><br />For the record, it being in my puzzle does not offend me.<br /><br />Bill L.https://www.blogger.com/profile/08886581691063755810noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35115061.post-45276628663489219482018-06-12T18:21:47.902-04:002018-06-12T18:21:47.902-04:00Woah, I didn’t realize that till you mentioned it!...Woah, I didn’t realize that till you mentioned it! Kinda cool but crossing with OBAMA isn’t exactly humble...Julianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18432075809733502271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35115061.post-74237744452105008512018-06-12T17:31:13.772-04:002018-06-12T17:31:13.772-04:00my resident ME isn't taking the question serio...my resident ME isn't taking the question seriously. But here's what I'd offer. For some pumps, like sump pumps,the principle action involves sucking. But others, like a bicycle tire pump, while they do suck, are principally pumpers, pushing air out. And Mr. ME points to the pump that operates my fountain, which recirculates water. Or the heart, which recirculates blood. So I think suction, which may be a compnent of most if not all pumps, is still a reasonable qualifier because it specifies what the pump is intended to do. I probably am making no sense, but that's okay. I spent the day editing and my brain is fried. Malsdemarehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05375476737540476148noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35115061.post-66314109394028177242018-06-12T16:53:28.869-04:002018-06-12T16:53:28.869-04:00@Z:
So, engineering types out there, is there a pu...@Z:<br />So, engineering types out there, is there a pump that does not involve suction?<br /><br />if you bothered to read my earlier physics lesson... :)Banana Diaquirinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35115061.post-51381850149153863922018-06-12T16:32:48.888-04:002018-06-12T16:32:48.888-04:00@Lewis and @Mohair and @everyone else - Always che...@Lewis and @Mohair and @everyone else - <b>Always check Muse’s avatar</b>.<br /><br />Regarding Rex’s “SUCTION PUMP” comment - a whole bunch of you are missing his point. Rex’s implied question is, “aren’t all pumps SUCTION PUMPS making the “suction” redundant?” Unfortunately, I don’t know enough about mechanical engineering to answer this question. I read the Wikipedia article and noted that many of the various types involve suction even though they have specialized names. But many of the various types make no mention of suction and it is plausible to me that no suction is involved, but I don’t know. So, engineering types out there, is there a pump that does not involve suction?Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16181544219511150272noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35115061.post-78401672937812935712018-06-12T16:24:54.824-04:002018-06-12T16:24:54.824-04:00As a young puzzler, I appreciate EMINEM, WHO DAT, ...As a young puzzler, I appreciate EMINEM, WHO DAT, EMOJI, and JUST FOR KICKS. Keeps it feeling accessible for those of us not yet fluent in crosswordese.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35115061.post-92002433519939465262018-06-12T16:10:32.868-04:002018-06-12T16:10:32.868-04:00@kitshef, after I hit the submit button, I realize...@kitshef, after I hit the submit button, I realized I really wanted “facetious”, not sarcastic.Teedmnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12832353448839187816noreply@blogger.com