tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35115061.post1632173567650869970..comments2024-03-29T07:38:33.064-04:00Comments on Rex Parker Does the NYT Crossword Puzzle: THURSDAY, Jun. 19, 2008 - Joe Krozel (GOLF GREAT ANDRE / TENNIS CHAMP ERNIE)Rex Parkerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16145707733877505087noreply@blogger.comBlogger94125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35115061.post-24367240597862595152008-07-24T15:09:00.000-04:002008-07-24T15:09:00.000-04:00Krozel's CommandmentRules for construction do not ...Krozel's Commandment<BR/><BR/>Rules for construction do not apply,<BR/><BR/>When the crossword puzzle's a lie.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for the fun one today!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35115061.post-40348521290348795252008-07-24T13:33:00.000-04:002008-07-24T13:33:00.000-04:00I suppose if the neo-con lies are filling the rest...I suppose if the neo-con lies are filling the rest of the paper they might as well fill the crossword also. :)<BR/>-- <BR/>Aloha ~~~ Ozzie Maland ~~~ San DiegoUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10460020001727405893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35115061.post-77823388788365262962008-07-24T12:36:00.000-04:002008-07-24T12:36:00.000-04:00Once one decides (in error) that 56A: TEN is a lie...Once one decides (in error) that 56A: TEN is a lie, there is no defined number of errors. I missed counting several errors. I got these answers mostly* by crosses, and thus did not pay attention to the clues. Left 69D as EDT (Summer hrs in NYC) and didn't check that it must be tollgates, not tollgated, to fit with the 52A clue. Oops...<BR/><BR/>Interestingly, @ Tad, if one counts nine other errors, then TEN cannot be the tenth. If TEN is true, then one must have miscounted the errors. If TEN is false, there are ten errors, so it is true. Can't be both true and false simultaneously.<BR/><BR/>As I counted only 6 other errors, I had no problem calling TEN an error. I think part of the genius of the puzzle is that it must have driven solvers nuts if they found nine errors and couldn't find the tenth.<BR/><BR/>*OK, Otto von Bismarck - I did say to myself, "Wow! I didn't know he was French." Sic transit etc....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35115061.post-70148630071492594432008-06-23T19:32:00.000-04:002008-06-23T19:32:00.000-04:00Sorry for the late post....been out of town. I fi...Sorry for the late post....been out of town. I finished, and didn't catch the NYC time "lie". So I counted nine inaccuracies, and then assumed that the answer TEN was the tenth. Thought that was pretty clever....but also wrong. Oh well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35115061.post-285886107684236912008-06-23T14:36:00.000-04:002008-06-23T14:36:00.000-04:00The words I used to describe this clue/answer are ...The words I used to describe this clue/answer are the very first words Billy Ocean utters in that song: "She's simply ... awesome."<BR/><BR/>rpRex Parkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16145707733877505087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35115061.post-83481909868451958402008-06-23T13:38:00.000-04:002008-06-23T13:38:00.000-04:00I give up, Rex—Why is the link for OKIE/Sooner a v...I give up, Rex—Why is the link for OKIE/Sooner a video of Billy Ocean's "Caribbean Queen"?<BR/><BR/>A NICU is one kind of ICU. Actually, it's two kinds—neurological or neonatal. Pediatric ICU = PICU, surgical ICU = SICU. ICU is pronounced eye-see-you, but the others generally rhyme with ick-you. There is no medical NICU that's not some kind of ICU, so the clue works for me.Orangehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12433254398377357737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35115061.post-639001786601901072008-06-23T07:26:00.000-04:002008-06-23T07:26:00.000-04:00Rex, Rex, Rex, Rex....you are sooo clever! Showing...Rex, Rex, Rex, Rex....you are sooo clever! <BR/><BR/>Showing Ivan Lendl instead of Agassi & Artur Rodziński rather than Copeland...<BR/><BR/>Seriously, though--today's was really fun--especially after that tedious pain I grimaced thru yesterday!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35115061.post-24618625191536145842008-06-20T23:15:00.000-04:002008-06-20T23:15:00.000-04:00great puzzle,I started and completed this today.I ...great puzzle,I started and completed this today.<BR/>I wanted to see Rex's post and comments! i was not disappointed!<BR/>expobillAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35115061.post-63255181821971220572008-06-19T23:24:00.000-04:002008-06-19T23:24:00.000-04:00Now that the day is winding down, I wanted to make...Now that the day is winding down, I wanted to make sure I thanked Rex for positing the notion that this might be Puzzle of The Year. That's very flattering. (How could I complain about the Krozzy nickname after such a kind assessment?) Rex sure stirred up some lively commentary both pro and con to his position, and it was all very delightful to read. I also want to thank a number of my fellow constructors who had nice things to say... John, Joon, Tony, Michael, (others): I marvel at your themes all the time but leave the commentary to the heavyweight solvers on this blog. Finally, I'm just delighted by the broad feedback from those who enjoyed this puzzle. It really makes my day that people get enjoyment from the stunts I pull. It just encourages me to do it some more! Thank you all. Regards, JoeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35115061.post-27493498180748844822008-06-19T22:47:00.000-04:002008-06-19T22:47:00.000-04:00A sweet moment of puzzling, and I wish I'd gotten ...A sweet moment of puzzling, and I wish I'd gotten to it earlier so I could have smiled about it all day!<BR/><BR/>Retrospectively a very easy solve. Was slowed down a little by the thought that I was missing something. Noticed the LIES in the grid at first sight, and the lie at 1A, so had to scrub each clue progressively until reaching 56A TEN lies, except that TEN could have been just another LIE! Wonder if TEN was just an accident, a happily forced answer, or if there was intention to place a number somewhere to make this work as it does. The three down answers to make TEN are super solid, so it could easily have been a lucky, random occurrence. Hmm.<BR/><BR/>Factoid du jour = T-Mac. NFI. Googled after the fact to verify. NBA = only sport not on my radar (thugs). Except the Celtics.<BR/><BR/>Lots of fun, no LIE.Pythiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06121774603671545699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35115061.post-30457882940722683912008-06-19T22:36:00.000-04:002008-06-19T22:36:00.000-04:00This puzzle was SO MUCH FUN to solve. My eyes had...This puzzle was SO MUCH FUN to solve. <BR/><BR/>My eyes had sort of glossed over some of the "lie" clues, so that I started getting paranoid about some of my entries, wondering if Iliescu and Tmac were for real. <BR/><BR/>I like that this puzzle had a little life of its own even after my solution was accepted as correct.sillygoosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03483946342170291849noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35115061.post-71404932690529969342008-06-19T22:20:00.001-04:002008-06-19T22:20:00.001-04:00well, a preemie would be in a NICU not an ICU, so ...well, a preemie would be in a NICU not an ICU, so would that count as an 11th lie? Anyway this one's humor kept me going much farther than I usually get on Thursdays.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35115061.post-6894653958225311312008-06-19T22:20:00.000-04:002008-06-19T22:20:00.000-04:00Rex, why is there a photo of Leonard Bernstein in ...Rex, why is there a photo of Leonard Bernstein in your write-up?<BR/><BR/>Like several other commenters, I mistakenly counted only 9 factual inaccuracies in the clues. That would have set up an amusing logical paradox at 56 across: its clue would be factually inaccurate, but that would mean its clue isn't factually inaccurate, but that would mean its clue is factually inaccurate, repeat ad infinitum.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35115061.post-33088190469914426892008-06-19T20:25:00.000-04:002008-06-19T20:25:00.000-04:00chef bea -- silly me. you'd mentioned that you'd ...chef bea -- silly me. <BR/><BR/>you'd mentioned that you'd had trouble finishing the puzzle, so you came *here*, where there was no mention of food. i'd posted earlier about toll houses, because rex had raised the question about toll gates. which are found at toll houses, no? which reminded me of toll house cookies. food -- referenced in the link i posted.<BR/><BR/>oooh, no mention of food *in the puzzle*. but that's not how i read your post.<BR/><BR/>tough crowd here!<BR/><BR/>;-)<BR/><BR/>janiejaniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15129173620859824730noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35115061.post-60835291114509074292008-06-19T19:48:00.000-04:002008-06-19T19:48:00.000-04:00upside down the grid reads53-17like a football sco...upside down <BR/>the grid reads<BR/><BR/>53-17<BR/><BR/>like a football score <BR/>or a pincodefergushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17056002311944010536noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35115061.post-34520705040679869632008-06-19T19:31:00.000-04:002008-06-19T19:31:00.000-04:00A man says that he is lying. Is what he says true ...A man says that he is lying. Is what he says true or false?<BR/><BR/>Excellent puzzle Mr. Krozel.Leonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07466240197659721721noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35115061.post-68736893359514049452008-06-19T19:26:00.000-04:002008-06-19T19:26:00.000-04:00This was a great puzzle. I'm not sure it was the b...This was a great puzzle. I'm not sure it was the best of the year. The large number of short answers made it pretty easy once you figured out the "Lies" theme, which as you say happens pretty quickly.Incontrovertiblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02883145586324881225noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35115061.post-15210272798489351022008-06-19T18:25:00.000-04:002008-06-19T18:25:00.000-04:00Ew, noice. +++ Woo and Yay.*dances*Ew, noice. +++ Woo and Yay.<BR/><BR/>*dances* <--Lie. Stays seated.Chip Ahoyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12597726289890879627noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35115061.post-75251876372633516912008-06-19T17:55:00.000-04:002008-06-19T17:55:00.000-04:00This was a very enjoyable puzzle. I thought I'd ha...This was a very enjoyable puzzle. I thought I'd have trouble with the puzzle, but it turned out to be easier than most Thursdays for me. I was convinced that 56 A would be incorrect, but the more I thought about this I realized (perhaps Prof. Elkies can help here) that an wrong answer here off by one in one direction would lead to a self-referential paradox. Of course, a wildly wrong answer wouldn't be a problem, but such an answer wouldn't be very interesting.Michael Chibnikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04700426644898924644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35115061.post-71580970709735957432008-06-19T17:49:00.000-04:002008-06-19T17:49:00.000-04:00@jls its toll gates - never even thought of the co...@jls its toll gates - never even thought of the cookieschefbeahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15195945085405126511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35115061.post-16816263632140355342008-06-19T17:29:00.000-04:002008-06-19T17:29:00.000-04:00toll house cookies ain't food?;-)j.toll house cookies ain't food?<BR/><BR/>;-)<BR/><BR/>j.janiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15129173620859824730noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35115061.post-9118506369391561792008-06-19T17:03:00.000-04:002008-06-19T17:03:00.000-04:00thought the puzzle was great although I couldn't f...thought the puzzle was great although I couldn't finnish it til I came here.And not one mention of foodchefbeahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15195945085405126511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35115061.post-65990454496986836712008-06-19T16:56:00.000-04:002008-06-19T16:56:00.000-04:00Well - this is the most responses I've seen to a p...Well - this is the most responses I've seen to a puzzle. So whether you loved it or not - there was a reaction!! It might have been easy once the theme became obvious - but it must have been a project to create!alanrichardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06395356843823270129noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35115061.post-68136020086211413122008-06-19T16:13:00.000-04:002008-06-19T16:13:00.000-04:00Please pardon the anagramming. That's something t...Please pardon the anagramming. That's something that's lacking in NYT puzzle Clues -- or maybe, like the puns in newspaper headlines (notable exception: NYT), I miss many of them?fergushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17056002311944010536noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35115061.post-84264689880631073802008-06-19T15:14:00.000-04:002008-06-19T15:14:00.000-04:00This was F-A-N-T-A-S-T-I-C! and it was really easy...This was F-A-N-T-A-S-T-I-C! and it was really easy for me because I am a bit fuzzy on a lot of pop culture stuff so I take stabs at things and hope for the best. I think it interfered less with my ability to solve than, say, a rebus even though it had the constant uncertainty...Even the answer TEN for number of lies is sustpect, so it really messes with your mind. Genius!<BR/><BR/>I wrote, then erased, a little puzzle about lying-- coming to a fork point in the road and having one chance to ask for directions from one of two people, a habitual liar and an honest man, without knowing who's who, and how to pick the strategic question that lets you know for sure. I figured that Rex would not be happy if we started up on it. As Lilly Tomlin used to say: "And that's the truth!"foodiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13052189131129098616noreply@blogger.com