Sailor's bearings, to an ancient Roman? / THU 6-11-26 / TV journalist Spencer / Olympic snowboarder Kim / EGOT-winning composer Menken / People one might meet at a drive / Poker holding of four cards of the same suit / Something you might keep tabs on? / Word before baked or naked / Hair style sported by painter Bob Ross
Constructor: Nikhil Bailey
Relative difficulty: Medium
THEME: "... to an ancient Roman?" — answers to theme clues must be read aloud—the parts that sound like letters (e.g. "aye" ("I"), "see" ("C"), etc.) must be understood as Roman numerals and then written into the grid as their English equivalent. So:
Theme answers:
18A: "Yes, sir!," to an ancient Roman? = "Aye aye, captain" = "I I, captain" = TWO, CAPTAIN
25A: Sailor's bearings, to an ancient Roman? = "sea legs" = "C legs" = HUNDRED LEGS
43A: Certain Microsoft office files, to an ancient Roman? = "Excel sheets" = "XL sheets" = FORTY SHEETS
55A: Prestigious group of schools, to an ancient Roman? = "Ivy League" = "IV League" = FOUR LEAGUE
Word of the Day: ALAN Menken (11D: EGOT-winning composer Menken) —
The theme *feels* straightforward, but I kept getting tripped up by it because it has not one layer but two—that is, both the sound of the Roman numeral and the meaning of the Roman numeral matter. My first and biggest mistake was thinking I had it when I did not, in fact, have it. I could see that the answer to 25A: Sailor's bearings, to an ancient Roman? was going to start HUNDRED, so I was like "OK, so the actual answer starts with the letter 'C' ... what are 'Sailor's bearings' that start with 'C' ... 'CL-' ... 'CLE-' ... CLEG- ... what the hell are 'CLEGS'!" And only then did I realize, "Oh, 'C' = 'SEA'! SEA LEGS!" I also misunderstood "bearings" in that clue, thinking it had to do with directions. So I struggled, then half got it, then all-the-way got it. And yet I kept mentally dropping it after that. I wanted to write in "II CAPTAIN" as the answer for 18A: "Yes, sir!," to an ancient Roman?, forgetting that I had to do yet another conversion: not just words to Roman numerals, but then Roman numerals to their English-language equivalent. I think the phrase "to an ancient Roman?" made me really Really want the actual in-the-grid answer to be a Roman numeral. The whole concept here is pretty silly, in that an ancient Roman would not hear the phrase "Aye aye, captain" and think it meant "TWO, CAPTAIN." "I" would not have sounded like "aye" in ancient Rome, and anyway presumably the ancient Roman couldn't speak English at all (since it didn't exist). But if you just let yourself go with the silliness, the theme is kind of entertaining, and sufficiently tricky, I think, for a Thursday.
["Drowning ... in a hundred of love ..."]
I was less entertained by the non-theme stuff. Two of the longer answers, FLUSH DRAW and OPTIC LOBE, were wasted on me, as I don't really know those terms (4D: Poker holding of four cards of the same suit) (40A: Your mind's eye?). They're niche terms that just left me shrugging. I could infer them, but I didn't enjoy them. I know the term FOUR FLUSHER—a great term for one who talks big but can't back it up (i.e. you're playing like you have a full flush but you've only got four of the five necessary cards). A phony, a fraud, a small-time person who puts up a big-time front. I learned the term from Chandler's "Red Wind." I thought the answer might be something colorful like that. But no, it's just the dull FLUSH DRAW. As for OPTIC LOBE, I assume that's the part of your brain concerned with vision. The only word I know that follows OPTIC is NERVE. Anything besides NERVE, I'll just have to take your word for it. And then two other longer answers, OPERAGOER and SALE ITEMS, are flat-out dull. In short, lots of marquee space is wasted on answers that don't have much pop, and certainly hold no interest for me. But the grid holds up OK otherwise; mostly clean, rarely cringey.
["Time ... keeps flowing like a river ... to the hundred ..."]
I like that SEA FOG (9D: Ocean mist) crosses "(aye aye) CAPTAIN" and "(sea) LEGS"—I guess I could be mad that "sea" is (kinda sorta) duped, but I'm too busy enjoying the nautical vibes. I think my least favorite themer is FOUR LEAGUE, just because everyone knows the (not really true) story of the "Ivy" part of Ivy League deriving from the fact that the league originally had just four (IV) schools in it. The name for the league actually came from class day ceremonies involving the planting of ivy, starting in the 19th century, but the term "Ivy League" doesn't appear for the first time until the '30s, and it gets used chiefly in relation to athletics. But still: "A common folk etymology attributes the name to the Roman numeral for four (IV), asserting that there was such a sports league originally with four members. The Morris Dictionary of Word and Phrase Origins helped to perpetuate this belief. The supposed "IV League" was formed over a century ago and consisted of Harvard, Yale, Princeton, and a fourth school that varies depending on who is telling the story" (wikipedia). Because the Ivy League comes preloaded with this numerical association, I didn't enjoy FOUR LEAGUE as much as the others, because it was far less surprising.
I struggled with some longer answers—the aforementioned FLUSH DRAW and OPTIC LOBE, but also ACID TRIP (???). I wanted ACID PAPER. I get that acid comes in tabs, but I still think the phrasing [Something you might keep tabs on?] makes no surface-level sense for ACID TRIP. Tabs can set you on your trip, but you do not keep them on your trip. I also didn't really know MASSLESS. I just let crosses take care of it. As for mistakes, there weren't many. I really enjoyed the one mistake I remember making—namely, "confirming" ACMES (5A: Pinnacles) by writing in CATS / MEWS at 6D: Barnyard producers of 7-Down and 7D: Sounds produced by 6-Down (COWS / MOOS). Barn kitties! They're real! Sadly, not what the puzzle was looking for. Otherwise, this puzzle was something less than an ORDEAL. Nothing overly taxing about it.
Bullets:
1A: Word before baked or naked (HALF) — first thought was BARE, but "BARE baked" ... is once letter short of being a thing (wow, don't search "barebacked" unless you're in the mood for porn). HALF Baked is one of the best ice cream flavors ever made as well as one of the worst movies ever made—the only movie I've ever walked out of (I walked out when I realized that "Simpsons" reruns would be on TV shortly and those would be much more fun to watch, true story).
[good]
[no]
23A: Sarcastic laugh syllable (HAR) — laugh syllables, always bad, but I appreciated the "Sarcastic," which at least made the answer clear. Or can HEH be sarcastic, too? For some reason, HAR reads to me like the most sarcastic of the laugh syllables (ha, hah, heh, har ... those are your basics ... I guess ho gets involved from time to time, but usually only via Santa).
33A: Met someone? (OPERAGOER) — another longer answer where the second part gave me fits. I got the OPERA part easy but went with ... OPERA DIVA. That's really a someone. An OPERAGOER? That's a Met no one. A face in the crowd. Boo.
63A: Gym units (SETS) — oh, I managed to trip over this a little because REPS shares half its letters with SETS.
1D: Jon of "Top Gun: Maverick" (HAMM) — early-morning brain: "ugh who is this Jon actor I've never heard of?" This from someone who watched every episode of Mad Men and even watched The Morning Show until finally Reese Witherspoon's character simply became completely unbearable.
28D: People one might meet at a drive (DONORS) — think blood drive
48D: "There is no love sincerer than the love of ___": George Bernard Shaw ("FOOD") — where crossword clues are concerned, I am a notorious fill-in-the-blank quotation hater, but I did enjoy hacking my way to the answer here. Seemed worth it. Unexpected and ... probably true. Speaking of food ... I need coffee. Is coffee a food? Close enough.
That's all for today. See you next time.
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Cute little trick - the Roman numeral stuff has been played before but as Rex highlights - this one has some added nuance. HUNDRED LEGS is pretty neat. One pass thought the grid was all it took for this one.
Our visual centers are indeed in the 2 large occipital lobes situated (somewhat curiously) at the very back of the brain like all mammals. We don't have anatomical "optic lobes" which are the major part of the brain in insects, although they have evolved in humans into the 2 superior collicui ("bumps") on the midbrain where they help us to turn our gaze to sudden visual or auditory stimuli.
We have them and even if it’s not the absolute most-proper name, it’s hardly a stretch. As the theme demonstrates, crossword puzzles require you to think past simple binary clue/answer relationships. But, come one pedant, come all, as OFL’s OPTIC LOBE perceives xword quality and acceptability in similar terms, albeit in a largely endearing way.
Why are there so many puzzles that reference taking acid (LSD). Is this some sort crossword community thing that we should know about? It makes it seem prevalent.
I think it’s because it’s A. A short answer, ACID, LSD, TRIP with common letters and also B. It’s word play, Acid vs Acid, Trip, Vs Trip, can confuse people.
Caught on to the theme for once, but still needed look-ups to get (Jon) HAMM and KAI (I never watch TV at night). Nice Thursday, I thought, without the grid mechanics we often see.
For tht 8:27: None of the above. I watch CNBC-TV in the morning (with the sound off) so I can follow the financial markets. I watch Tampa Bay Rays' games in the afternoon maybe once a week. The older I get, the more I dislike the boob tube.
Yes, this was a fun Thursday. 14 minutes for me, so that's medium on a Thursday. rEpS before SETS; The term 'OPTICLOBE' is mainly used for insects, from what I'm seeing online---in people it is the superior colliculus, and then the visual related processing all occurs in the Occipital LOBE. So I call foul on that clue.... it should have said something about neuroscience in invertebrates, or drosophila. I do agree with Paul P (6:07), there does seem to be an ACID and LSD fascination in crosslandia.... probably just because the letters are so common and convenient. I love how with the whole "IV" league myth, the 4th school depends who is telling the story.... hilarious. Enjoyed the clue for OUTIE.... we see your friend INNIE all the time in Spelling Bee, but you.... you're a bit OUT there.... Clever Thursday offering, Nikhil, thank you!!! (and 4 days with no SW.... Amirite?)
Maybe the occipital lobe is the optic lobe in the way that the heart is the circulation organ, the digestive organ is the stomach… As in, "what lobe manages optic matters?"
Tuesday Easy. I got the theme right away and after that it offered barely any resistance at all. * * _ _ _
Overwrites: I thought the 9D ocean mist might be SEA FO[am] with a rebus, but it was just SEA FOG. My 23A sarcastic laugh syllable was HAh before it was HAR.
As an occasional OPERAGOER, I resent Rex’s implication that I’m not “someone.” Tonight Mrs. Freude and I are seeing La Traviata—not at the Met but in a local production. Everybody in the place will be someone who has shown up to enjoy live music and theater.
And as a retired academic, I confess that I’ve never heard of that “folk etymology” for the Ivy League. Frankly, I trust its VERITY about as much as I do any folk etymology—a good story that might, just might, contain some truth.
Finally, as a fan of old movies and detective stories, I’ve seen/heard the term “four flusher” plenty of times, getting the meaning but with no idea of its derivation. Thanks for the elucidation, Rex. Great write-up for a fun, challenging Thursday puzzle!
No complaints. Nope. No complaints at all. Went to bed glum with the team I’m rooting for down by XXIX, woke up with a genuine jaw drop of delight when I saw the final score, and I don’t believe that anything can bring me down.
Certainly not this puzzle rife with wordplay, one of the happiest of my happy buttons. Even the first clue had an eye rhyme of BAKED and NAKED.
More wordplay clues followed – such as [It might have many sides] and [Met someone?]. And a wordplay Roman-numeral-letter-homophone theme.
Not to mention the palindrome answers ARAL and LARA, the dook UPONE, no-knows to feel good about conquering, and an echo of Tuesday’s meat-doneness puzzle with RARE.
All evidence that the constructor was minding his PEAS and CUES.
Nikhil, I came into your puzzle happy, and you easily kept the mood going strong. Congratulations on your debut, and thank you for a splendid outing!
I saw the word tab working double duty on the "something you might keep tabs on". I think that acid comes in/on a tab, and if someone is on an acid trip, you might need to keep tabs on them. Definitely a little clunky though.
I've never seen knit used in that context. I would've thought knot ones brow would fit better.
Hey All ! Neat idea. Did figure it out at TWO CAPTAIN. Was thinking, "Hmm, if it's Aye Aye CAPTAIN, then the TWO could be two I's, ala Roman Numerals! Let's check the other Themers!" You already know I talk to myself.
Started with thinking we had a Rebus on hand, with SEAFO_, and putting AM in a square to get SEAFOAM. Wondered what significance AM had with Romans. Nothing, apparently. Luckily, my RebiRadar quickly let me know there wasn't going to be any.
SALE ITEMS gives off EAT A SANDWICH vibes.
Good ThursPuz, Nikhil. Don't recognize the name. Gotta read @Lewis to see if it's a debut.
After what feels like a permanent drought, finally a puzzle I enjoyed! Along with the theme being a fun double twist, I enjoyed the science-y theme throughout with MASSLESS photons, ULNA, OPTIC LOBE and MRNA making it in, quite the NOVA of a puzzle. Few Americanisms made it smoother for this Brit too, only getting tripped on Thousand OAKS and the PATS in the north-east
I agree with Rex regarding items such as FLUSH DRAW, OPTIC LOBE, OPERAGOER and SALE ITEMS. There’s nothing inherently wrong or inappropriate about them, but there’s not much excitement there either.
The theme was an interesting thought experiment. A non-Windows user may have some trouble with the FORTY answer, but the others were fair and in the language enough to register. Some of the clues were a bit obtuse (the clue for DONORS seemed a little bizarre to me at least). In the end, a very serviceable Thursday.
I got the Roman numerals all right (though not at once, for the C-legs), but the second parts of the theme answers were a little iffy. Spreadsheets, OK, but XL sheets? Doesn't sound right to me. Plus the clue wanted a type of file, so it would be XLS, or so I reasoned. CAPTAIN seems particularly arbitrary.
As for the four league, I never heard that origin story--always thought it was they were old universities with ivy growing up the walls, as in "the halls of ivy." Live and learn (and then unlearn, I guess)
As for the Escapade spacecraft, they are not really satellites, although they may become satellites when they get to MARS. Not sure about DOUBT -- I hesitated because of thinking reservations had to be doubts, and that wouldn't fit. I guess you could make a case for it, though -- I can't imagine saying "I have a reservation" unless I was talking to a maitre d'.
As for photons, it gets tricky. Their rest mass is zero, but they are never at rest--they always move at the speed of light. I'm no physicist, though.
I'll have to come back later to see what M&A picks for his moo-cow easy entry today.
Under 7 minutes for a Thursday record, solving on my phone. That's in hard Monday/easy Tuesday territory. I was prepared to label this the least memorable Thursday ever and surprised to see so many folks, including OFL, who liked this one.
Reminds me of the silly old refrain I’ve recently taught my five year-old nephew so we could snicker over it together: “When you’re out with your honey and your nose is red and runny, you might think it’s funny but it’s snot.”
Certainly before I had finished 90% of the grid and was staring at TWOCAPTAIN with the expression of a Victorian child encountering electricity for the first time.
The theme answers are TWOCAPTAIN, HUNDREDLEGS, FORTYSHEETS, and FOURLEAGUE. Perfectly normal phrases. Common expressions we all use every day. "Sorry I'm late, I had to stop and buy some FORTY SHEETS." "My nephew is studying HUNDRED LEGS in school." Completely natural English. No notes.
Now, the puzzle claims—or at least eventually began making noises suggestive of the fact—that the numbers should be interpreted as Roman numerals and then sounded out. So TWO becomes II, which becomes "aye aye," yielding AYE AYE CAPTAIN. HUNDRED becomes C, yielding SEA LEGS. FORTY becomes XL, yielding EXCEL SHEETS. FOUR becomes IV, yielding IVY LEAGUE.
Cute.
Very cute.
Extremely cute.
Not that I needed the explanation, obviously.
I was merely taking the scenic route.
In fact I spent a substantial portion of the solve convinced that HUNDRED LEGS was some kind of zoological reference. Maybe a centipede thing? Maybe a folklore thing? Meanwhile FORTY SHEETS sounded vaguely like a linen sale at Macy's. The puzzle kept insisting there was a pattern and I kept responding, "Yes, of course there is. The pattern is that these are all phrases I don't care for." This is what we in the crossword-review business call "being ahead of the constructor."
But once the gimmick finally, accidentally, against all odds, revealed itself, I loved it. Deeply. The kind of Thursday gimmick that is simultaneously absurd and elegant. Roman numerals! Sound-alikes! Multi-step wordplay! The sort of thing that should be completely insufferable and instead ends up charming because of the sheer commitment to the bit. TWOCAPTAIN is especially wonderful because it sits there looking so aggressively wrong that you know something is happening. The answer is basically waving semaphore flags from the middle of the grid.
The only real complaint is that this thing was easy. Thursday easy. Wednesday easy. Possibly "I accidentally solved it while reaching for my coffee" easy. Once the gimmick clicked, huge chunks of the grid became available all at once. Even the fill was unusually cooperative. The puzzle practically wanted you to succeed.
Overall: a delightful Thursday with a gimmick I understood instantly, except for the part where I absolutely did not understand it instantly. A silly, inventive little puzzle that managed the rare feat of making me feel both confused and delighted by the exact same mechanism. Those are usually my favorite Thursdays.
@anon 12:47, the expression I heard while in the Navy to describe a drunken sailor was "III (three) sheets to the wind". It goes back to the age of sail and "sheets" were lines that controlled sails and "to the wind" meant that the lines were unsecured and the sails would be flapping around wildly out of control like a drunken sailor.
What a fun Thursday! It will probably fall victim to the “too easy” chorus, but it was at least challenging in the beginning before the conceit became clear. I crept around and didn’t see it until FORTY, then quickly got the TWO and FOUR, but HUNDRED stumped me for a while. Why … because I had already put SEA in front of LEGS before I parsed the theme trick, but had none/nada of the downs before SEA. So I was left trying to figure out what four-letter number would work there. Could sailors possibly need five sea legs to get their bearings? Nine perhaps? Finally, a lightbulb and a head slap later, I ventured HONKS, then UP ONE, and the FOG miraculously lifted. I thanked the crossword gods and happily filled in the remaining LOOSE ends.
Really a superb debut, Nikhil. A very satisfying solve with an appealing theme that made me think about it. I suspect we’ll be seeing your name again in the future, and I look forward to your next creation.
I'm usually fine with poker terms, but this time it was unclear that you didn't have all your cards yet. Wanted something along the lines of BUSTED FLUSH.
BTW, the term "four flusher" is news to me. Sounds like something you'd have on your hands the morning after a huge meal...
Cute them. There is no such thing as an OPTIC LOBE. The visual cortex is part of the Occipital Lobe. That may be way you never heard of it. I knew that was the answer but it pained me to write it in.
Re: DONORS, you also find them at food drives, clothing drives and such. Anything where you're gathering up a category of stuff from donors to give to folks who need it can be a drive.
Surprised the difficulty rating was so high. I’m very much a novice, but this felt like the easiest Thursday I’ve ever played. That makes me feel a little better for when I struggle on a puzzle only to find it was rated super easy!
Started OK, then had to bounce around some, wound up in the SW corner where FOURLEAGUE became IV LEAGUE and came the dawn. The rest were silly/punny enough to amuse me, but I've always been an easy grader.
The usual problem with names, hello ALAN and CHLOE and you too Mr. Na. Nice to meet you all I'm sure. FLUSHDRAW is new to me and I found the clue for ACIDTRIP to require too much pretzel logic to justify it. I had HENS producing EGGS, easy fix. And HAR shows up in the comments with enough frequency to be a gimme.
The coffee discussion reminds me of a cartoon I just saw--A couple of aliens have landed outside a house and say "Our planet has entirely depleted its energy resources. Where do you keep your coffee?"
I had a fine old time with this one NB. A piece of Nifty Business indeed and you share my father's initials, so good for you. Thanks for all the fun.
Loved this clever theme and had a lot of fun with it As @Rex pointed out, the two layers of solve doubled that fun. For me, the NE made it a proper Thursday challenge, while the rest of the puzzle fell much more easily and quickly. I was able to grock HALF and then nothing else until I played with some letters at the very end. I never seem to remember my world seas, MASSLESS was a "huh, I guess so", and MENU for whatever reason just wouldn't come to me. When it did, there was some joy as It's nicely clued with a good mis-direction, and I remember saying "AHHH" out loud. Some other mistakes but nothing too costly or long lasting: *reps* instead of SETS, OPERAstar and OPERAdiva before OPERAGOER fell with the crosses. Agree with @Rex's assessment on this on. I have not heard of FLUSHDRAW but happy to know it now. OPTICLOBE was more of a "if you say so". I remember sitting in one of my Psych classes in grad school with a diagram of the eye and brain on the board for the whole semester, I'm not sure I recall hearing anything referred to as OPTICLOBE... But the theme itself today makes up for anything that Falls short, and not much did. Thank you for this Nikhil! This was a hoot!
I enjoyed it. I appreciated this post pointing out the double-trick of the theme from homophone to numeral—it made me appreciate why the puzzle stayed fun after I had already gotten the gimmick.
Egs: Hey, bae. Did you know that the Huns had something very similar to a dreidel, but it's spelled D-R-E-D-L? Mrs. Egs: Of course. It's a HUNDREDLEGS.
I've got a feeling I know where @M &A will be going for his MOO(S) COW(S) easy answer(s) today.
A FLUSHDRAW with a pair of aces might be an either/ORDEAL.
I can almost hear John Fogarty's voice right now. "I wanna know, did you ever SEAFOG."
The CDC used to be a big booster of the MRNA vaccines. I believe that they know call them the RISKIEST thing since ultra processed FOOD.
Word is that JD Vance is so disappointed to have an anti-war Pope that his life, like his moral compass, is now MASSLESS.
I got stuck for a while today and wondered, "One thousand one going to finish?" Loved this puzzle. Big thanks and congrats, Nikhil Bailey.
A Milky Way explosion sounds like someone put their candy bar in a microwave. One of the "treats" available at my hometown swimming pool was a candy bar similar to a Milky Way which was kept in the freezer. So all the way home, one would gnaw on this frozen chocolate nougat confection. Yuck. I think I tried it once and then realized a push-up or Mr. Freezy was so much better. I would definitely microwave a frozen candy bar, at least once, and probably have a huge mess on my hands. Of course, there weren't microwaves in every home in the days when I was crossing the golf course on my way home from the pool, barefoot, wrapped in a towel. Good memories.
I got the theme at TWO CAPTAIN and then wrote down the Roman numeral letters. That was less helpful than I thought it would be. I had LEGS in place and kept trying to put a couple of numeral letters together that would make sense. When HUNDRED fell into place from crosses, I finally really got the theme. Nice!
The NW took some time, as LANS, FLUSHDRAW, and MASSLESS weren't obvious to me. And, elsewhere, I doubted PATS was a stadium, and I was sure the singular DOUBT wasn't correct...still think it ought to be plural. But it was a clever theme, I enjjoyed the RUSE, and I can say with VERITY that I enjoyed solving it.
When I got to 44D (Test of will), I had _R__A_, and my initial reaction was PROBATE, but then my brain realized there was only one space after the A.
I liked this puzzle overall, but had a few minor gripes:
I agree with an earlier poster: An Excel *file* can contain multiple sheets, but those are just called 'sheets' not Excel sheets.
"Bearings" made me think of navigation, and SEA LEGS doesn't really seem to fit the clue that well. Getting your sea legs isn't getting your bearings, it's getting your balance on a pitching deck. [If I really wanted to nitpick, I'd point out that hundred = C = sea, and sea is already used in SEA FOG, but I won't go there!]
After reading comments, I looked up OPTIC LOBE and confirmed in humans it's not called that, but that did lead me to learn a new piece of information: there is a disorder called "Alice in Wonderland Syndrome"! https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/24491-alice-in-wonderland-syndrome-aiws
Oh thank you for the clip from DivaπππI can't say how many times I watched it last century. Ah every scene: the moped (! par mobilette) the roller skating in the loft, the tub in the middle of the room, Paris in the rain. I'm afraid to watch it again, as with old favorites that don't hold up. '"Queen of Africa," ... "Queen of the Night"'
I’ve been thinking the same thing, @melle. I loved that movie in the 1970s and saw it several times in the theater. Today it would probably be embarrassing to sit through. But it’s fondly remembered. “J’aime pas les parking.”
I loved the double indirection of sound to Roman numeral to English translation. I also had a singular DOUBT on my (very short) Ugh! list, along with SALE ITEM. My only overwrite was OPERA Geek, but I’m the geek who knew photons are MASSLESS and that the OPTIC LOBE was in the midbrain and not the occiput. I didn’t catch this at first because my handwritten Ks pass for Rs sometimes (doctor’s handwriting since second grade) but I couldn’t make DeNORS work.
I filled the grid with little thought about the theme. I thought maybe there would be a revealer. There wasn't. I scanned the grid and all at once it was clear. It was really fun this way. I'm glad (and maybe a bit dumb) that I didn't get it early. When I attended church services there was a minister that I basically liked. He was smart and friendly. But when he was in front, giving the sermon he was quite full of himself. I did not care for his altar ego.
1. CDC = The US Senate? 2. Funnier TWOCAPTAIN clue: {Reply to "Want a cinnamon roll, matey?", to an ancient Roman?}. 3. Neat SEAFOG & CLEGS pairin. 4. OPTIC LOBE, OPTICAL LOBE, OCCIPTAL LOBE are all used to refer to that there visual brain dept. [Not that M&A knew that, before doin research.] 5. [0] days without a moo-cow double clue/answer pairin. 6. Real clever puztheme idea.
staff weeject pick, from only 6 available choices: HAR. weeject p.s. -- KAI no-know trivia info: That good-lookin young gal with Trump at Knicks game #3 was his granddaughter Kai. ... And how 'bout that game #4, btw?
I usually do the puzzle by going through the across clues very quickly just entering those that I know without much thinking. At 55 across the first thing that came to mind on the first pass was VII Sisters. Anyone fall for that?
Good puzzle, not that hard for a Thursday. I had, at first, ONECAPTAIN (Aye, Captain). Then I saw the Cow/Moo thing and I corrected Aye, Aye Captain. I use Excel Spreadsheets for hours each day. Both professionally and personally.
My first thought. “Oh, joy, let’s play with letters instead of words”.
Got the theme at TWO (II) CAPTAIN and never really slowed down. And I began to appreciate it more as I worked my way down the grid.
Best thing about this puzzle might have been learning that G. B. Shaw was a foodie.
One does not keep tabs on an ACID TRIP. Sometime in the late 60s it became illegal to possess LSD, so you would ingest a tab and leave the rest of your stash under your brother’s bed. That way if the fuzz rounded you up running half (or more) naked through the local park, there was no real evidence of drug use. Very awkward clue.
SEA FOG? I know I could look it up but it’s more fun to contemplate how it differs from land fog or brain fog.
Yes it was not a challenging puzzle (14 minutes for me) but the two step trick to the theme pushed it into legitimate Thursday territory. At each theme answer, I had to stop and think pretty hard for half a minute.
I'm quite relieved that (a) no circles today, and (b) not too many names. There were only two across names, but seven down ones, so nine is just about the maximum acceptable for me. CHLOE was the only totally Unknown Name, though "Jon", "Spencer" and "Menken" didn't give me HAMM, LARA, and ALAN without the crosses.
Not familiar with the term FLUSH DRAW... good to learn something I guess.
I dunno. I guess it kept me working, but I don't love Roman numeral puzzles. More importantly, they've rearranged the apps on the Android screen and now the crossword is now 8th out of 10 games. The crossword should always be number one, or I in today's parlance.
π¦ neglected HEE on his laugh list.
Went with EWES and BAAS. Ugh. I did not know SEA FOG is a thing.
1 Ballot cast for the smarmiest of the yucks. 2 Take a broom to the bourgeois wannabe. 3 Phrase unlikely to describe many crossword solvers today. 4 When you're trying to remember the password for your fake account for trolling.
1 HAR VOTE 2 SHOO OPERA GOER (~) 3 KNEW OPTIC LOBE 4 ALTER EGO ORDEAL
My Fascinating Crossword Uniclue Keepsake from Last Year: "You're only hurting yourself," "Now you'll have to work fast food for the rest of your life," and "Wikipedia is not a reliable source." PLAGIARISM SAWS.
Liked it a little better than Rex. His double layer theme difficulty made it more Thursday-worthy, no? And the longer answers seemed a little more chocolatey than vanilla to me.
Not much of a poker player, but knew the four-flusher ETYMOLOGY (oops, wrong puzzle).
If we must have LSD-related fare in our puzzles, the clue for ACID TRIP was great.
The OPTIC LOBE neighborhood was our last to be entered. We thought DOUBT (singular) was okay and was the key to finishing that AREA. I'd expect similar grumbling here if the clue was simply "Reservation". I'm thinking of Frank Sinatra's "My Way" lyrics ("when there was doubt, I ate it up and spit it out"). Both "doubt" and "it" are singular, which doesn't support my argument. But it wouldn't go "when I had a reservation...". So much for my second career as a songwriter.
But I was a CPA and always called them EXCEL spreadsheets. Google SHEETS were the shareable counterparts, which I disfavored because I didn't want others messing with my work, or having to keep them under lock.
I'd like to correct myself; there were 3 across names (missed ARAL) and 8 downs (counting MARS). Eleven total sounds like a lot, but only one was a Total Unknown so I didn't get ired.
wonderful puzzle - odd they only use optic lobe for insects we both have eyes in our heads. and yes Opera Goers is what we call each other and like any other fan base we have our terms of endearment 5 stars no question
I'll add my name to those thinking that this was a creative and clever theme and an overall enjoyable puzzle to solve. But I'll also add my name to those questioning the VERITY to 40A OPTIC LOBE. It's clued "Your mind's eye?" so we're referring to humans, right? And the human brain has four LOBEs in each cerebral hemisphere and none of them are called the OPTIC LOBE.
Only in a crossword puzzle would ones LEGS, SEA, land or otherwise be clued as "bearings". I see the attempt at misdirection, "bearings" here not as nautical directions but as things which "bear up" or "support", but I think it's a stretch too far and can be seen as a caricature of outlandish crossword clueing.
Loved this quirky theme and puzzle thank you! Had to guess at FLUSHDRAW and LARA but all fair from the crosses. Fun on paper but I know I would have struggled on the phone
My experience was solving the puzzle readily enough, but completely blanking on the theme. Puzzle finished. Staring at the themers.... Okay, numbers - plus - second half part of a phrase... Staring at the themers. And then all of a sudden: Aye Aye = I I = TWO ... Wow -dopamine hit! Sometimes the *way* that you solve a puzzle, the order in which it clicks, makes all the difference between a love or hate. This one I loved.
Cute little trick - the Roman numeral stuff has been played before but as Rex highlights - this one has some added nuance. HUNDRED LEGS is pretty neat. One pass thought the grid was all it took for this one.
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Overall fill ran the gamut. FLUSH DRAW and ALTER EGO are solid - love SEA FOG. SALE ITEMS, ACID TRIP etc fall flat. Do we have OPTIC LOBEs?
Faded ROSE
Absurdly easy for late week - a new adverb @Gary can add to his list - but an enjoyable Thursday morning solve nonetheless.
SEA FOG
No. No such thing as an optic lobe. It's the occipital lobe.
DeleteOptic lobe.
DeleteOur visual centers are indeed in the 2 large occipital lobes situated (somewhat curiously) at the very back of the brain like all mammals. We don't have anatomical "optic lobes" which are the major part of the brain in insects, although they have evolved in humans into the 2 superior collicui ("bumps") on the midbrain where they help us to turn our gaze to sudden visual or auditory stimuli.
DeleteOptometrist here and I've not heard of optic lobe. I second occipital lobe.
DeleteJust look it up. It's not "Your" mind's eye unless perhaps you're a frog.
DeleteThe "Editor" should have replaced "Your" appropriately.
We have them and even if it’s not the absolute most-proper name, it’s hardly a stretch. As the theme demonstrates, crossword puzzles require you to think past simple binary clue/answer relationships. But, come one pedant, come all, as OFL’s OPTIC LOBE perceives xword quality and acceptability in similar terms, albeit in a largely endearing way.
DeleteWhy are there so many puzzles that reference taking acid (LSD). Is this some sort crossword community thing that we should know about? It makes it seem prevalent.
ReplyDeletePaul, I had the same thought. Seems strange.
DeleteI think it’s because it’s A. A short answer, ACID, LSD, TRIP with common letters and also B. It’s word play, Acid vs Acid, Trip, Vs Trip, can confuse people.
DeleteProbably holds the key to obtaining ESP.
DeleteGotta love the drug
DeleteMostly works as easy glue/fill for the constructor as well as potential word play as mentioned above
DeleteAre you suggesting acid be dropped then?
DeleteRex, surely you must have heard of an OPTIC Allusion.
ReplyDeleteSurely not, as that’s not the term https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_illusion
DeleteAn Alaskan eye doctor could be an optical Aleutian
DeleteI got it. Worth a couple of HARs.
Delete@Mrs. Malaprop 6:09 AM
DeleteBathroom attire for an Egyptian Christian could be a Coptical Robe.
You all cracked me up. One more vote for the like button
DeleteTruly believing a salve will heal you is a topical delusion.
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Optical Aleutian is a delightful pun, thank you for this.
DeleteCaught on to the theme for once, but still needed look-ups to get (Jon) HAMM and KAI (I never watch TV at night). Nice Thursday, I thought, without the grid mechanics we often see.
ReplyDeleteAh, but do you watch TV at day? (Soap operas? The Price is Right? Judge Judy?)
DeleteFor tht 8:27: None of the above. I watch CNBC-TV in the morning (with the sound off) so I can follow the financial markets. I watch Tampa Bay Rays' games in the afternoon maybe once a week. The older I get, the more I dislike the boob tube.
DeleteAs Peggy Lee sang: Is all that there is? No πfor me.
ReplyDeleteYes, this was a fun Thursday. 14 minutes for me, so that's medium on a Thursday. rEpS before SETS; The term 'OPTICLOBE' is mainly used for insects, from what I'm seeing online---in people it is the superior colliculus, and then the visual related processing all occurs in the Occipital LOBE. So I call foul on that clue.... it should have said something about neuroscience in invertebrates, or drosophila. I do agree with Paul P (6:07), there does seem to be an ACID and LSD fascination in crosslandia.... probably just because the letters are so common and convenient. I love how with the whole "IV" league myth, the 4th school depends who is telling the story.... hilarious. Enjoyed the clue for OUTIE.... we see your friend INNIE all the time in Spelling Bee, but you.... you're a bit OUT there.... Clever Thursday offering, Nikhil, thank you!!! (and 4 days with no SW.... Amirite?)
ReplyDeleteTotally agree. NO optic lobe. YES occipital lobe. Definite foul on that clue.
DeleteI'm a crossword court judge. I find OPICLOBE acceptable in this context.
DeleteMaybe the occipital lobe is the optic lobe in the way that the heart is the circulation organ, the digestive organ is the stomach… As in, "what lobe manages optic matters?"
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ReplyDeleteTuesday Easy. I got the theme right away and after that it offered barely any resistance at all.
* * _ _ _
Overwrites:
I thought the 9D ocean mist might be SEA FO[am] with a rebus, but it was just SEA FOG.
My 23A sarcastic laugh syllable was HAh before it was HAR.
One WOE, snowboarder CHLOE Kim at 30D.
Hah seems more sarcastic, har seems more dismissive. IMHO. Isn't sea fog just FOG
DeletePer Ralph Kramden: Har har hardee har har
DeleteSea fog is a type of fog - there are various types - Google "types of fog".
DeleteAs an occasional OPERAGOER, I resent Rex’s implication that I’m not “someone.” Tonight Mrs. Freude and I are seeing La Traviata—not at the Met but in a local production. Everybody in the place will be someone who has shown up to enjoy live music and theater.
ReplyDeleteAnd as a retired academic, I confess that I’ve never heard of that “folk etymology” for the Ivy League. Frankly, I trust its VERITY about as much as I do any folk etymology—a good story that might, just might, contain some truth.
Finally, as a fan of old movies and detective stories, I’ve seen/heard the term “four flusher” plenty of times, getting the meaning but with no idea of its derivation. Thanks for the elucidation, Rex. Great write-up for a fun, challenging Thursday puzzle!
No complaints. Nope. No complaints at all. Went to bed glum with the team I’m rooting for down by XXIX, woke up with a genuine jaw drop of delight when I saw the final score, and I don’t believe that anything can bring me down.
ReplyDeleteCertainly not this puzzle rife with wordplay, one of the happiest of my happy buttons. Even the first clue had an eye rhyme of BAKED and NAKED.
More wordplay clues followed – such as [It might have many sides] and [Met someone?]. And a wordplay Roman-numeral-letter-homophone theme.
Not to mention the palindrome answers ARAL and LARA, the dook UPONE, no-knows to feel good about conquering, and an echo of Tuesday’s meat-doneness puzzle with RARE.
All evidence that the constructor was minding his PEAS and CUES.
Nikhil, I came into your puzzle happy, and you easily kept the mood going strong. Congratulations on your debut, and thank you for a splendid outing!
Lewis
DeleteI had trouble with UPONE. My brain was saying nonsense! Until I parsed it. Never mind.
I didn’t see anything wrong with met someone.
I saw the word tab working double duty on the "something you might keep tabs on". I think that acid comes in/on a tab, and if someone is on an acid trip, you might need to keep tabs on them. Definitely a little clunky though.
ReplyDeleteI've never seen knit used in that context. I would've thought knot ones brow would fit better.
Coffee is most definitely a FOOD. It is the base of my personal food pyramid, followed by popcorn and then peanut butter.
ReplyDeleteII sir!
DeleteHey All !
ReplyDeleteNeat idea. Did figure it out at TWO CAPTAIN. Was thinking, "Hmm, if it's Aye Aye CAPTAIN, then the TWO could be two I's, ala Roman Numerals! Let's check the other Themers!" You already know I talk to myself.
Started with thinking we had a Rebus on hand, with SEAFO_, and putting AM in a square to get SEAFOAM. Wondered what significance AM had with Romans. Nothing, apparently. Luckily, my RebiRadar quickly let me know there wasn't going to be any.
SALE ITEMS gives off EAT A SANDWICH vibes.
Good ThursPuz, Nikhil. Don't recognize the name. Gotta read @Lewis to see if it's a debut.
Hope y'all have a great Thursday!
Five F's
RooMonster
DarrinV
A really swell theme, but profoundly easy for a Thursday. Five stars to the constructor but two to the editor.
ReplyDeleteAfter what feels like a permanent drought, finally a puzzle I enjoyed! Along with the theme being a fun double twist, I enjoyed the science-y theme throughout with MASSLESS photons, ULNA, OPTIC LOBE and MRNA making it in, quite the NOVA of a puzzle. Few Americanisms made it smoother for this Brit too, only getting tripped on Thousand OAKS and the PATS in the north-east
ReplyDeleteI agree with Rex regarding items such as FLUSH DRAW, OPTIC LOBE, OPERAGOER and SALE ITEMS. There’s nothing inherently wrong or inappropriate about them, but there’s not much excitement there either.
ReplyDeleteThe theme was an interesting thought experiment. A non-Windows user may have some trouble with the FORTY answer, but the others were fair and in the language enough to register. Some of the clues were a bit obtuse (the clue for DONORS seemed a little bizarre to me at least). In the end, a very serviceable Thursday.
I got the Roman numerals all right (though not at once, for the C-legs), but the second parts of the theme answers were a little iffy. Spreadsheets, OK, but XL sheets? Doesn't sound right to me. Plus the clue wanted a type of file, so it would be XLS, or so I reasoned. CAPTAIN seems particularly arbitrary.
ReplyDeleteAs for the four league, I never heard that origin story--always thought it was they were old universities with ivy growing up the walls, as in "the halls of ivy." Live and learn (and then unlearn, I guess)
As for the Escapade spacecraft, they are not really satellites, although they may become satellites when they get to MARS. Not sure about DOUBT -- I hesitated because of thinking reservations had to be doubts, and that wouldn't fit. I guess you could make a case for it, though -- I can't imagine saying "I have a reservation" unless I was talking to a maitre d'.
As for photons, it gets tricky. Their rest mass is zero, but they are never at rest--they always move at the speed of light. I'm no physicist, though.
I'll have to come back later to see what M&A picks for his moo-cow easy entry today.
I, too, heasitated over the singular doubt. I think if you have reservatonS you have doubtS.
DeleteI hesitated at singular doubt as well. But if you have reservations I guess you can be in the state of doubt.
DeleteUnder 7 minutes for a Thursday record, solving on my phone. That's in hard Monday/easy Tuesday territory. I was prepared to label this the least memorable Thursday ever and surprised to see so many folks, including OFL, who liked this one.
ReplyDeleteI started with that ISNT funny, but for a time there I had that SNOT funny
ReplyDeleteReminds me of the silly old refrain I’ve recently taught my five year-old nephew so we could snicker over it together: “When you’re out with your honey and your nose is red and runny, you might think it’s funny but it’s snot.”
DeleteOh, I got the gimmick immediately.
ReplyDeleteImmediately.
Right away.
Certainly before I had finished 90% of the grid and was staring at TWOCAPTAIN with the expression of a Victorian child encountering electricity for the first time.
The theme answers are TWOCAPTAIN, HUNDREDLEGS, FORTYSHEETS, and FOURLEAGUE. Perfectly normal phrases. Common expressions we all use every day. "Sorry I'm late, I had to stop and buy some FORTY SHEETS." "My nephew is studying HUNDRED LEGS in school." Completely natural English. No notes.
Now, the puzzle claims—or at least eventually began making noises suggestive of the fact—that the numbers should be interpreted as Roman numerals and then sounded out. So TWO becomes II, which becomes "aye aye," yielding AYE AYE CAPTAIN. HUNDRED becomes C, yielding SEA LEGS. FORTY becomes XL, yielding EXCEL SHEETS. FOUR becomes IV, yielding IVY LEAGUE.
Cute.
Very cute.
Extremely cute.
Not that I needed the explanation, obviously.
I was merely taking the scenic route.
In fact I spent a substantial portion of the solve convinced that HUNDRED LEGS was some kind of zoological reference. Maybe a centipede thing? Maybe a folklore thing? Meanwhile FORTY SHEETS sounded vaguely like a linen sale at Macy's. The puzzle kept insisting there was a pattern and I kept responding, "Yes, of course there is. The pattern is that these are all phrases I don't care for." This is what we in the crossword-review business call "being ahead of the constructor."
But once the gimmick finally, accidentally, against all odds, revealed itself, I loved it. Deeply. The kind of Thursday gimmick that is simultaneously absurd and elegant. Roman numerals! Sound-alikes! Multi-step wordplay! The sort of thing that should be completely insufferable and instead ends up charming because of the sheer commitment to the bit. TWOCAPTAIN is especially wonderful because it sits there looking so aggressively wrong that you know something is happening. The answer is basically waving semaphore flags from the middle of the grid.
The only real complaint is that this thing was easy. Thursday easy. Wednesday easy. Possibly "I accidentally solved it while reaching for my coffee" easy. Once the gimmick clicked, huge chunks of the grid became available all at once. Even the fill was unusually cooperative. The puzzle practically wanted you to succeed.
Overall: a delightful Thursday with a gimmick I understood instantly, except for the part where I absolutely did not understand it instantly. A silly, inventive little puzzle that managed the rare feat of making me feel both confused and delighted by the exact same mechanism. Those are usually my favorite Thursdays.
This old timer immediately thought of sailors coming back from shore leave XL sheets to the wind. And I bet that was the original clue.
Delete@anon 12:47, the expression I heard while in the Navy to describe a drunken sailor was "III (three) sheets to the wind". It goes back to the age of sail and "sheets" were lines that controlled sails and "to the wind" meant that the lines were unsecured and the sails would be flapping around wildly out of control like a drunken sailor.
DeleteWhat a fun Thursday! It will probably fall victim to the “too easy” chorus, but it was at least challenging in the beginning before the conceit became clear. I crept around and didn’t see it until FORTY, then quickly got the TWO and FOUR, but HUNDRED stumped me for a while. Why … because I had already put SEA in front of LEGS before I parsed the theme trick, but had none/nada of the downs before SEA. So I was left trying to figure out what four-letter number would work there. Could sailors possibly need five sea legs to get their bearings? Nine perhaps? Finally, a lightbulb and a head slap later, I ventured HONKS, then UP ONE, and the FOG miraculously lifted. I thanked the crossword gods and happily filled in the remaining LOOSE ends.
ReplyDeleteReally a superb debut, Nikhil. A very satisfying solve with an appealing theme that made me think about it. I suspect we’ll be seeing your name again in the future, and I look forward to your next creation.
I'm usually fine with poker terms, but this time it was unclear that you didn't have all your cards yet. Wanted something along the lines of BUSTED FLUSH.
ReplyDeleteBTW, the term "four flusher" is news to me. Sounds like something you'd have on your hands the morning after a huge meal...
I didn't like it either, if cards were still to be dealt then you had a flush draw, but if not you had bupkis
DeleteCute them. There is no such thing as an OPTIC LOBE. The visual cortex is part of the Occipital Lobe. That may be way you never heard of it. I knew that was the answer but it pained me to write it in.
ReplyDeleteThere are no Excel sheets files. There are Excel workbook files.
ReplyDeleteExcel files= spreadheets= sheets
DeleteRe: DONORS, you also find them at food drives, clothing drives and such. Anything where you're gathering up a category of stuff from donors to give to folks who need it can be a drive.
ReplyDeleteOur friend Jeff donated the organ to our Reform Synagogue. You can make up the jokes.
DeleteSurprised the difficulty rating was so high. I’m very much a novice, but this felt like the easiest Thursday I’ve ever played. That makes me feel a little better for when I struggle on a puzzle only to find it was rated super easy!
ReplyDeleteStarted OK, then had to bounce around some, wound up in the SW corner where FOURLEAGUE became IV LEAGUE and came the dawn. The rest were silly/punny enough to amuse me, but I've always been an easy grader.
ReplyDeleteThe usual problem with names, hello ALAN and CHLOE and you too Mr. Na. Nice to meet you all I'm sure. FLUSHDRAW is new to me and I found the clue for ACIDTRIP to require too much pretzel logic to justify it. I had HENS producing EGGS, easy fix. And HAR shows up in the comments with enough frequency to be a gimme.
The coffee discussion reminds me of a cartoon I just saw--A couple of aliens have landed outside a house and say "Our planet has entirely depleted its energy resources. Where do you keep your coffee?"
I had a fine old time with this one NB. A piece of Nifty Business indeed and you share my father's initials, so good for you. Thanks for all the fun.
Loved this clever theme and had a lot of fun with it As @Rex pointed out, the two layers of solve doubled that fun.
ReplyDeleteFor me, the NE made it a proper Thursday challenge, while the rest of the puzzle fell much more easily and quickly. I was able to grock HALF and then nothing else until I played with some letters at the very end. I never seem to remember my world seas, MASSLESS was a "huh, I guess so", and MENU for whatever reason just wouldn't come to me. When it did, there was some joy as It's nicely clued with a good mis-direction, and I remember saying "AHHH" out loud.
Some other mistakes but nothing too costly or long lasting: *reps* instead of SETS, OPERAstar and OPERAdiva before OPERAGOER fell with the crosses. Agree with @Rex's assessment on this on.
I have not heard of FLUSHDRAW but happy to know it now. OPTICLOBE was more of a "if you say so". I remember sitting in one of my Psych classes in grad school with a diagram of the eye and brain on the board for the whole semester, I'm not sure I recall hearing anything referred to as OPTICLOBE...
But the theme itself today makes up for anything that Falls short, and not much did. Thank you for this Nikhil! This was a hoot!
Where have all the Thursdays gone...long time passing? Cute idea. But after HUNDRED LEGS it was a very quick trip through the rest.
ReplyDelete@M&A - Both COWS and MOOS!
I enjoyed it. I appreciated this post pointing out the double-trick of the theme from homophone to numeral—it made me appreciate why the puzzle stayed fun after I had already gotten the gimmick.
ReplyDeleteEgs: Hey, bae. Did you know that the Huns had something very similar to a dreidel, but it's spelled D-R-E-D-L?
ReplyDeleteMrs. Egs: Of course. It's a HUNDREDLEGS.
I've got a feeling I know where @M &A will be going for his MOO(S) COW(S) easy answer(s) today.
A FLUSHDRAW with a pair of aces might be an either/ORDEAL.
I can almost hear John Fogarty's voice right now. "I wanna know, did you ever SEAFOG."
The CDC used to be a big booster of the MRNA vaccines. I believe that they know call them the RISKIEST thing since ultra processed FOOD.
Word is that JD Vance is so disappointed to have an anti-war Pope that his life, like his moral compass, is now MASSLESS.
I got stuck for a while today and wondered, "One thousand one going to finish?" Loved this puzzle. Big thanks and congrats, Nikhil Bailey.
I liked this a lot. Whooshing on a Thursday and a Thursday without a rebus! Congrats on your debut, Nikhil & looking forward to more :)
ReplyDeleteA Milky Way explosion sounds like someone put their candy bar in a microwave. One of the "treats" available at my hometown swimming pool was a candy bar similar to a Milky Way which was kept in the freezer. So all the way home, one would gnaw on this frozen chocolate nougat confection. Yuck. I think I tried it once and then realized a push-up or Mr. Freezy was so much better. I would definitely microwave a frozen candy bar, at least once, and probably have a huge mess on my hands. Of course, there weren't microwaves in every home in the days when I was crossing the golf course on my way home from the pool, barefoot, wrapped in a towel. Good memories.
ReplyDeleteI got the theme at TWO CAPTAIN and then wrote down the Roman numeral letters. That was less helpful than I thought it would be. I had LEGS in place and kept trying to put a couple of numeral letters together that would make sense. When HUNDRED fell into place from crosses, I finally really got the theme. Nice!
Thanks, Nikhil Bailey, this was fun.
The NW took some time, as LANS, FLUSHDRAW, and MASSLESS weren't obvious to me. And, elsewhere, I doubted PATS was a stadium, and I was sure the singular DOUBT wasn't correct...still think it ought to be plural. But it was a clever theme, I enjjoyed the RUSE, and I can say with VERITY that I enjoyed solving it.
ReplyDeleteWhen I got to 44D (Test of will), I had _R__A_, and my initial reaction was PROBATE, but then my brain realized there was only one space after the A.
ReplyDeleteI liked this puzzle overall, but had a few minor gripes:
I agree with an earlier poster: An Excel *file* can contain multiple sheets, but those are just called 'sheets' not Excel sheets.
"Bearings" made me think of navigation, and SEA LEGS doesn't really seem to fit the clue that well. Getting your sea legs isn't getting your bearings, it's getting your balance on a pitching deck. [If I really wanted to nitpick, I'd point out that hundred = C = sea, and sea is already used in SEA FOG, but I won't go there!]
After reading comments, I looked up OPTIC LOBE and confirmed in humans it's not called that, but that did lead me to learn a new piece of information: there is a disorder called "Alice in Wonderland Syndrome"!
https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/24491-alice-in-wonderland-syndrome-aiws
Easy-medium. I parsed the theme post solve.
ReplyDeleteI did not know - ALAN, and SEAFOG took some crosses, and PEAS go with fish and chips??
Costly erasure - OPERAstar before GOER
No junk, clever/fun theme, a fine Thursday, liked it.
I grade the puzzle a One Hundred overall, but I give the editing a Five Hundred.
ReplyDeleteOh thank you for the clip from DivaπππI can't say how many times I watched it last century. Ah every scene: the moped (! par mobilette) the roller skating in the loft, the tub in the middle of the room, Paris in the rain. I'm afraid to watch it again, as with old favorites that don't hold up. '"Queen of Africa," ... "Queen of the Night"'
ReplyDeleteI’ve been thinking the same thing, @melle. I loved that movie in the 1970s and saw it several times in the theater. Today it would probably be embarrassing to sit through. But it’s fondly remembered. “J’aime pas les parking.”
DeleteI loved the double indirection of sound to Roman numeral to English translation. I also had a singular DOUBT on my (very short) Ugh! list, along with SALE ITEM. My only overwrite was OPERA Geek, but I’m the geek who knew photons are MASSLESS and that the OPTIC LOBE was in the midbrain and not the occiput. I didn’t catch this at first because my handwritten Ks pass for Rs sometimes (doctor’s handwriting since second grade) but I couldn’t make DeNORS work.
ReplyDeleteI filled the grid with little thought about the theme. I thought maybe there would be a revealer. There wasn't. I scanned the grid and all at once it was clear. It was really fun this way. I'm glad (and maybe a bit dumb) that I didn't get it early.
ReplyDeleteWhen I attended church services there was a minister that I basically liked. He was smart and friendly. But when he was in front, giving the sermon he was quite full of himself. I did not care for his altar ego.
XL is pronounced “ex”-“ell”. Excel is pronounced “ex”-“cell”. Frustrating that I keep having puzzles rejected when stuff like this makes it through.
ReplyDelete1. CDC = The US Senate?
ReplyDelete2. Funnier TWOCAPTAIN clue: {Reply to "Want a cinnamon roll, matey?", to an ancient Roman?}.
3. Neat SEAFOG & CLEGS pairin.
4. OPTIC LOBE, OPTICAL LOBE, OCCIPTAL LOBE are all used to refer to that there visual brain dept. [Not that M&A knew that, before doin research.]
5. [0] days without a moo-cow double clue/answer pairin.
6. Real clever puztheme idea.
staff weeject pick, from only 6 available choices: HAR.
weeject p.s. -- KAI no-know trivia info: That good-lookin young gal with Trump at Knicks game #3 was his granddaughter Kai.
... And how 'bout that game #4, btw?
fave things: OPERAGOER clue. FLUSHDRAW [fun poker stuff & NYTPuz debut entry]. MOOS & COWS. Easy NW rodeo start, at our house.
Thanx for the hundredool fun, Mr. Bailey dude. And congratz on gettin yer puzlegs wet, with this primo debut.
Masked & Anonymo6Us
p.s.
Tricky Runt puzzle:
**gruntz**
M&A
I usually do the puzzle by going through the across clues very quickly just entering those that I know without much thinking. At 55 across the first thing that came to mind on the first pass was VII Sisters. Anyone fall for that?
ReplyDeleteGood puzzle, not that hard for a Thursday. I had, at first, ONECAPTAIN (Aye, Captain). Then I saw the Cow/Moo thing and I corrected Aye, Aye Captain. I use Excel Spreadsheets for hours each day. Both professionally and personally.
ReplyDeleteMy first thought. “Oh, joy, let’s play with letters instead of words”.
ReplyDeleteGot the theme at TWO (II) CAPTAIN and never really slowed down. And I began to appreciate it more as I worked my way down the grid.
Best thing about this puzzle might have been learning that G. B. Shaw was a foodie.
One does not keep tabs on an ACID TRIP. Sometime in the late 60s it became illegal to possess LSD, so you would ingest a tab and leave the rest of your stash under your brother’s bed. That way if the fuzz rounded you up running half (or more) naked through the local park, there was no real evidence of drug use. Very awkward clue.
SEA FOG? I know I could look it up but it’s more fun to contemplate how it differs from land fog or brain fog.
Yes it was not a challenging puzzle (14 minutes for me) but the two step trick to the theme pushed it into legitimate Thursday territory. At each theme answer, I had to stop and think pretty hard for half a minute.
ReplyDeleteI'm quite relieved that (a) no circles today, and (b) not too many names. There were only two across names, but seven down ones, so nine is just about the maximum acceptable for me. CHLOE was the only totally Unknown Name, though "Jon", "Spencer" and "Menken" didn't give me HAMM, LARA, and ALAN without the crosses.
Not familiar with the term FLUSH DRAW... good to learn something I guess.
okanaganer. Your first paragraph sort of describes my journey, though I'm not as fast as you. Legit Thursday. Some thinking required.
DeleteEso no tiene gracia.
ReplyDeleteI dunno. I guess it kept me working, but I don't love Roman numeral puzzles. More importantly, they've rearranged the apps on the Android screen and now the crossword is now 8th out of 10 games. The crossword should always be number one, or I in today's parlance.
π¦ neglected HEE on his laugh list.
Went with EWES and BAAS. Ugh. I did not know SEA FOG is a thing.
All HAMMs are Soccer Mia.
❤️ Villainous ploy.
People: 5
Places: 4
Products: 3
Partials: 5
Foreignisms: 2
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Gary's Grid Gunk Gauge: 19 of 74 (26%)
Funny Factor: 3 π
Tee-Hee: COMES. ACID TRIP. We're such big kids.
Uniclues:
1 Ballot cast for the smarmiest of the yucks.
2 Take a broom to the bourgeois wannabe.
3 Phrase unlikely to describe many crossword solvers today.
4 When you're trying to remember the password for your fake account for trolling.
1 HAR VOTE
2 SHOO OPERA GOER (~)
3 KNEW OPTIC LOBE
4 ALTER EGO ORDEAL
My Fascinating Crossword Uniclue Keepsake from Last Year: "You're only hurting yourself," "Now you'll have to work fast food for the rest of your life," and "Wikipedia is not a reliable source." PLAGIARISM SAWS.
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Alan Menken was in another puzzle recently as well, I'm pretty sure!
ReplyDeleteLiked it a little better than Rex. His double layer theme difficulty made it more Thursday-worthy, no? And the longer answers seemed a little more chocolatey than vanilla to me.
ReplyDeleteNot much of a poker player, but knew the four-flusher ETYMOLOGY (oops, wrong puzzle).
If we must have LSD-related fare in our puzzles, the clue for ACID TRIP was great.
The OPTIC LOBE neighborhood was our last to be entered. We thought DOUBT (singular) was okay and was the key to finishing that AREA. I'd expect similar grumbling here if the clue was simply "Reservation". I'm thinking of Frank Sinatra's "My Way" lyrics ("when there was doubt, I ate it up and spit it out"). Both "doubt" and "it" are singular, which doesn't support my argument. But it wouldn't go "when I had a reservation...". So much for my second career as a songwriter.
But I was a CPA and always called them EXCEL spreadsheets. Google SHEETS were the shareable counterparts, which I disfavored because I didn't want others messing with my work, or having to keep them under lock.
I'd like to correct myself; there were 3 across names (missed ARAL) and 8 downs (counting MARS). Eleven total sounds like a lot, but only one was a Total Unknown so I didn't get ired.
ReplyDeletewonderful puzzle - odd they only use optic lobe for insects we both have eyes in our heads. and yes Opera Goers is what we call each other and like any other fan base we have our terms of endearment
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I'll add my name to those thinking that this was a creative and clever theme and an overall enjoyable puzzle to solve. But I'll also add my name to those questioning the VERITY to 40A OPTIC LOBE. It's clued "Your mind's eye?" so we're referring to humans, right? And the human brain has four LOBEs in each cerebral hemisphere and none of them are called the OPTIC LOBE.
ReplyDeleteOnly in a crossword puzzle would ones LEGS, SEA, land or otherwise be clued as "bearings". I see the attempt at misdirection, "bearings" here not as nautical directions but as things which "bear up" or "support", but I think it's a stretch too far and can be seen as a caricature of outlandish crossword clueing.
With sealegs and SEAFOG in the grid, it's no wonder ALAN Menken showed up to perform Under the Sea.
ReplyDeleteLoved this quirky theme and puzzle thank you! Had to guess at FLUSHDRAW and LARA but all fair from the crosses.
ReplyDeleteFun on paper but I know I would have struggled on the phone
Solved as a themeless since I couldn’t figure out the theme. Still easy-peasy.
ReplyDeleteFastest Thursday ever. Flew right through. Easy but still fun. Only hesitated for a moment on ACID TRIP being ACID Test.
ReplyDeleteMy experience was solving the puzzle readily enough, but completely blanking on the theme. Puzzle finished. Staring at the themers.... Okay, numbers - plus - second half part of a phrase... Staring at the themers. And then all of a sudden: Aye Aye = I I = TWO ... Wow -dopamine hit! Sometimes the *way* that you solve a puzzle, the order in which it clicks, makes all the difference between a love or hate. This one I loved.
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