Saturday, May 16, 2026

Capote or chesterfield / SAT 5-16-26 / Trigger hair / Modern "go-to's" / Up to snuff, facetiously / Matches with forensics / Roman goddess who drives a two-horse chariot / Marriott property with the slogan "Whatever Whenever" / Victor over Washington on 11/12/1955 in "Back to the Future, Pt. II"—and in real life / Curtain for silhouetting on stage / Once-popular terra-cotta figurine / Spelling combinations? / Folks who enjoy a well-aged beef?

Constructor: Byron Walden

Relative difficulty: Medium-Challenging


THEME: none 

Word of the Day: ZARFS (36A: Cup holders) —
zarf (plural: zarfs, zarves; TurkishzarflarArabiczuruuf) is a cup holder, usually of ornamented metal, for a coffee cup without a handle // Although coffee was probably discovered in Ethiopia, it was in Turkey around the 13th century that it became popular as a beverage. As with the serving of tea in China and Japan, the serving of coffee in Turkey was a complex, ritualized process. It was served in small cups without handles (known as fincan, pronounced /finˈd͡ʒan/), which were placed in holders known as zarf (from the Arabic: ظرف, romanizedẓarf; plural ظُرُوف ẓurūf, meaning "container" or "envelope") to protect the cup and also the fingers of the drinker from the hot liquid. // Cups were typically made of porcelain, but also of glass and wood. However, because the holder was more visible, it was typically more heavily ornamented. [...] The zarf was often made from metal, with silvergoldcopper, and brass being the most common materials used. Others were also made of woods such as coconutebony or other hardwoods, or of ivorybonehorn, or tortoiseshell. Today, zarf can be the name of a cardboard coffee cup sleeve. (wikipedia) (my emph.)
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It was only after I found myself struggling mightily in the NW corner that I bothered to look at the byline on today's puzzle. "Oh ... OK, that tracks." Byron's puzzles usually come in at above-average, and frequently well above-average, difficulty. Once I accepted that my opponent was going to be a worthy one today, I actually started to do better. Sometimes you just gotta get your head in the right space. I can't say this is among my favorite Byron Walden puzzles—the marquee fill was not terribly exciting, and there were an awful lot of absolute WTFs, which makes it harder to love a puzzle—but I appreciated the good old-fashioned challenge this one provided. There were some mildly contrived phrases—stuff that veered toward Green Paint territory (i.e. a phrase someone might say but that doesn't stand alone particularly well). I'm thinking of LANDED OUT and IN TWO ACTS and the bizarrely poetic RIVER SEINE in particular. But I'm not too mad at those. I'll give a late-week puzzle some leeway to get weird with it. As long as the puzzle puts up a fight and the grid doesn't feel loaded with junk, I'm gonna be reasonably happy on a Saturday. 


The main problem for me today was that I just found myself shrugging at clues and answers that meant nothing to me. That elaborate ANDY KIM clue, LOL, yikes (19A: Name shared by the singer of the #1 hit "Rock Me Gently" (1974) and the first Korean American elected to the U.S. Senate (2024)). None of that information helped me. I actually know the song "Rock Me Gently" from decades of intermittently listening to Oldies stations (and from listening to Casey Kasem's '70s-era American Top 40 countdowns every weekend when we drive to the bakery in Owego). But I had no idea who the singer was, and I continue to not know more than a handful of congresspeople. Been a long time since Congress has been anything more than useless, and I don't soak my brain in 24hr news networks of any political stripe, so ... ANDY KIM? If you say so! Junior senator from New Jersey! Sorry, New Jersey, for only knowing your other senator. Also, that UCLA clue?!?!?! (1D: Victor over Washington on 11/12/1955 in "Back to the Future, Pt. II"—and in real life). I don't remember a damn thing about Back to the Future, Pt. II. Maybe saw it once. Haven't seen it since it came out. I guess it features a football game? Again, if you say so. "Operculum"!? (28A: Operculum, e.g.). No idea. No hope. Is that a fancy name for your eyeLID? No, not exactly. 

[merriam-webster.com]

And ZARFS!? I have apparently been using them for years and didn't know it. It's been sixteen years since ZARF was in the puzzle. I don't think I've heard the term in the wild once since then. That was the last answer I wrote in. Not a nice way to finish—entering the last letter and just hoping it's right. Also, FEUDISTS? (32D: Folks who enjoy a well-aged beef?). Those who feud are FEUDISTS? There's something incongruously formal-sounding about a phenomenon I associate with the Hatfields and McCoys. I'd've thought FEUDERS But my software is red-underlining FEUDERS and leaving FEUDISTS alone, so I guess the puzzle is correct. Are there really people who practice the art of feuding? Is there such an art? The -IST ending really implies "this is a formal art or practice." Are there people who are just feud enthusiasts? I think they should be called FEUDIES. Like foodies, but for feuds.


The pleasure for me today was mainly in wrestling with the strange and often heavily misdirective cluing. The "Matches" in 22A: Matches with forensics is a noun, not a verb. [Don't start with me!] is someone you literally don't start (if you're a coach). (If the clue phrase had had quotation marks around it, then the answer would've been an equivalent phrase, but without the quotation marks, plus the "!," the clue is meant to be taken hyper-literally.) "Spelling" and "beef" both get used in unexpected ways. The [Wind pipe?] is a pipe that you hang in the wind (CHIME). The things that are "hard to pull off" are not tight articles of clothing, as I suspected, but FEATS (I'm not sure all FEATS are "hard to pull off," but some, sure, OK). ROUND 'EM UP and IN FOREVER are winning phrases, but primarily it was the (tricky, clever) cluing, and not the fill, that made this one (mostly) enjoyable. 


Bullets:
  • 1A: Modern "go-to's" (URLS) — did not love this clue. I see what it's doing, but the quotation marks imply that someone might use that specific phrase in reference to a URL, and no. You do "go to" websites, it's true, but you wouldn't call them "go-to's." Take the quotation marks out and I like the clue better. 
  • 14A: Capote or chesterfield (COAT) — I was so proud of myself when I remembered that a "Capote" was a type of ... CAPE. Sigh. So proud! Confirmed UCLA with that answer!! STAY BACK forced the change from CAPE to COAT. I know "chesterfield" primarily as a SOFA. Or a cigarette. [Side note: it is so grim, every time I search for information about a thing, to be presented with an absolute wall of commercial sites—URLS (!) trying to sell me home furnishings, for instance, instead of a site that will simply explain what a chesterfield is. No, I don't want to get my definition from "chairsactually" or "furniturecloud," thank u very much. I can get dictionary definitions easily enough, but to find anything more explanatory, I have to wade through all the sites trying to sell me stuff. It's a drag. A hyper-commercialized hellscape.]
  • 15A: Emulates E.T., in a way (PHONES HOME) — too easy. Jarringly easy, in this puzzle. So easy that I actually doubted it for a half second. I guess a very tricky puzzle can sometimes throw you precisely by not being tricky—the cleverest trick of all. The non-trick! No one sees it coming! Diabolical.
  • 24D: Trigger hair (MANE) —Trigger was Roy Rogers's horse. Kind of a deep cut, esp. if you're under, say, 50.
  • 17A: Roman goddess who drives a two-horse chariot (LUNA) — it's weird how I "knew" this without knowing it. Maybe it's just that my brain has a storehouse full of gods and goddesses of various word lengths and LUNA sits near the top of the Roman four-letter bin. JUNO is probably at the top, but that "J" didn't seem likely in that position. 
  • 34A: Up to snuff, facetiously (EPT) — aargh. I count on the short stuff being easy, or at least reasonably gettable, but this!? I needed every cross, I think. It's a back-formation from "inept," and its first recorded use was by E.B. White, in a letter from 1938. (“I am much obliged … to you for your warm, courteous, and ept treatment of a rather weak, skinny subject.”) (grammarphobia dot com)
  • 10D: Marriott property with the slogan "Whatever Whenever" (W HOTEL) — that's the letter "W" and then HOTEL, not WHOTEL. It's not the main lodge in Whoville ... although I do think "Whatever, Whenever, WHOTEL!" is a great slogan.
  • 23D: Once-popular terra-cotta figurine (CHIA PET) — wait, wait ... you're telling me they're no longer popular!? My Chia Obama is ... out of style!?!?
["Yes You Can!" LOL wow]
  • 27D: State in which Gulliver is discovered by the Lilliputians (DEEP SLEEP) — so not TENNESSEE, then. Gotcha. (DEEP SLEEP helped me change RICER to DICER (27A: Aid in making salsa). I'm still not real clear on the distinction)
  • 18A: Precious self-reference (LITTLE OL' ME) — OK now do you see why I balked and squawked at LI'L' OL' ME on Sunday!? Arbitrary elisions and non-elisions everywhere! It's madness! Next we're gonna get LITTLE OLD ME and LIL OLD ME and maybe LIL OLE ME (like Grand Ole Opry?!), where will it end!? 
Signed, Rex Parker, King of CrossWorld

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142 comments:


  1. Medium-Challenging. Liked it.
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    Overwrites:
    At 2D, I was thinking of a cattle call in connection with casting a play and wanted something along the lines of an opeN audition (which didn't fit).
    I had StrIPS for takes off at 5D before SPLITS.
    My 17A two-horse goddess was herA before LUNA (confused Greek and Roman mythology).
    I relax and recharge on vacAYS as well as ME DAYS (24A).
    Perhaps one might use a rICER in making salsa at 27a? No, it's a DICER.

    WOEs:
    UCLA, as clued at 1D.
    EMMET Brickowski or anyone from The Lego Movie (12D).
    The double-WATTLED cassowary at 21A.
    Didn't remember Obama's Secretary of Defense HAGEL at 25A.
    LID as clued at 28A (wtf is an Operculum?).
    EPT meaning up to snuff (34A).
    The cup holder ZARF at 36A.

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  2. Anonymous6:46 AM

    Lots of stuff I was stumped by - either because of clever clueing or because of the rather esoteric nature of the answer, but....

    In all cases, I could infer the things that stumped me by working around them - which tells me that the challenge was eminently fair and the puzzle especially well constructed.

    Bravo

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  3. My big break on B'way was doing INTrO ACTS, crossing my cassowary bird which was double- rATTLED. Took me way too long to fix that "r" for the happymusic :-/

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    1. Same here, except that was the mistake I was STILL left with after my complete DNF/Googlefest in the NW corner.

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    2. Keith9:06 AM

      Same. Except I had eNTreACTS (which was at least on the right track, though misspelled), to INTrOACTS, before finally sussing it out.

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    3. DAVinHOP9:21 AM

      That was where we failed. INTrO ACTS seemed plausible; getting a break being one's intro. Never heard of the bird, so an L for us today.

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    4. Anonymous9:44 AM

      Me three. Gave up after 15 minutes as I had no clue to NW . This sort of puzzle reminds me that I'm not Jedi yet.

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    5. DAVinHOP
      Exactly whee I failed INT?OACTS and
      ?ATTLED I was annoyed at myself because I started to do a vowel run on the bird type but I gave up before W and left the r. Tough puzzle!

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  4. Quite easy for a Byron Walden puzzle, which is to say medium for most constructors. Some specialized knowledge really helped today (ZARFS, NUUK, ZINC)

    ANDY KIM not only sang 'Rock Me Gently', he wrote it and produced it, also. He had no recording deal and basically made the record on spec.

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    1. Anonymous12:28 PM

      Andy Kim's blue suit is in the Smithsonian (or it WAS) after being seen wearing it while cleaning up feces from the Capitol floor after the "heroes" tried to "liberate" it!

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    2. Anonymous4:46 PM

      ANDYKIM, who knowledgeable solvers should know two ways, opened it right up and led to a fun solving experience. ZARF is not a thing though

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    3. Anonymous4:48 PM

      Rock me gently.
      Rock me slowly
      Take it easy cause you know
      That i have never been loved like this before

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  5. Really nice - a ball buster no doubt but fun and ultimately doable. Byron is the adult in the room - I count only four threes in this handsome grid. The whole thing is long entries with limited black squares.

    Trampled Rose

    Tend to agree with the big guy - there’s so many longs that some fall flat. The two 14s are only so-so. ROUND EM UP, DEEP SLEEP, MARGINAL, EVEN STEVEN are all top notch. Love MÉLANGE - still not sure about the plural.

    FEATS Don’t Fail Me Now

    I couldn’t parse WATTLED for the life of me - IN TWO ACTS helped. ZARFS is out there along with SCRIM and the odd NUUK. We’ve seen ERIVO before - was thankful for the plug-in PHONES HOME.

    The LARK In The Morning

    Highly enjoyable Saturday morning solve. David Williams’s Stumper is a different beast - not as refined as Byron’s grid but tough and pleasant also. A fine puzzling daybreak.

    California (All The Way)

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  6. Andy Freude6:59 AM

    A properly, maddeningly, gratifyingly difficult Saturday puzzle. A welcome distraction from normal life in the 21st century, aka, in Rex’s EPT words, a “hyper-commercialized hellscape.” That was quite a workout, Byron—well done!

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  7. natasha7:11 AM

    😮‍💨

    that was the toughest saturday for me in literally years. it took me about 3x my typical time. not sure if this is a compliment or a complaint or a little bit of both (ok, it’s both).

    weirdly, the third time LUNA came up for me in 24 hours, and i still had to google it.

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  8. Oh, hello NYT Saturday puzzle! Bringer of pauses that feel like they’ll never end … until a revelation hits that give you excitement you don’t feel anywhere else in the world. Where you severely earn your squares and gloriously beam when you do. Where you uncover an answer and go “Huh? … Wha?” until the wordplay hits you and you silently nod in awe.

    Oh, hello Byron Walden, Saturday specialist, who takes you to that Moment of Truth, where you have to decide whether to cave or ditch, or soldier on.

    Today’s opus features all the BW trademarks – stupendously low word and black square counts, wide range of fields, no-knows, word-wit, vagueness, cleanroom spotlessness, and amazing freshness, with 13 NYT answer debuts, including the magnificent bonzo ZARFS.

    I love aspects of every NYT puzzle, but I hang around for those special ones, those Capital-P Puzzles that take me away from the world and surround me with greatness. Like every single one of yours, Byron. After 25 years of making Times puzzles, your edge is as sharp as ever. Thank you!

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    1. It's good to see you here, Lewis!!!

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    2. Anonymous11:25 AM

      Happy to see you back where you belong. I hope all is well with you! Kathy

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    3. Anonymous11:34 AM

      +1 for ZARFS! Not only did I know what it is (from playing Balderdash!), I just mentioned it to a coworker this week while grabbing coffee. lol!

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    4. Wordplay post from Lewis yesterday:
      "When I woke from the 3.5-hour spinal fusion surgery on Cinco De Mayo, my first three thoughts were ebullient – that I was alive, felt like myself, and didn’t feel like I lost a single brain cell. Full recovery can take up to a year, but after a couple of months I’ll be able to do quite a bit. So far, it’s been a blend of grinding away toward progress, and the thrill of experiencing said progress. My spirits are good, and I’m learning much."

      Glad to have you back Lewis :)

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    5. Andy Freude12:36 PM

      Another voice welcoming you back, Lewis.I raise my ZARF and wish you a speedy and safe recovery!

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    6. This blog without Lewis is like a day without sunshine.

      Was that the Cinco de Mayo Clinic you were in?

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    7. Anonymous3:33 PM

      Hey, PH, keep us posted re your progress, some of us, i.e. ME, are headed in that direction having tried PT, SI and steroid injections, ablation most recently. None of these procedures worked real well, doing "pharmaceuticals" helps and doing "chores" helps, after which I PAY!!! Hope things go well, fingers X'd.

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    8. @Anonymous Oh no, that was a post from Lewis from another message board. (He had the spinal surgery, not me.) If there was a Rex Award for Best Anonymous Post, you'd get my vote for the concern.

      Lewis must be protected at all costs.

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    9. Anonymous7:17 PM

      Technically it would be eg not ie :)

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  9. There were a lot of weak spots in the grid but I'm honestly so grateful to have an actual challenge in the New York Times that I don't mind at all. Compared to recent Saturdays this is a 5* grid, ANDYKIM and all.

    I wanted Nike for LUNA at first which threw that part of the grid forever, and rejected EPT out of hand. And I don't need to tell you how disconcerting it was having WHO_E_ for the hotel chain.

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  10. Same here, except I DNFed with the reasonable INTROACTS.

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  11. Hey All !
    A return to the impossible puz. Man, they set you up with some weeks of easy SatPuzs, only to smack you down with this one!
    Had to cheat early and often, as this would've taken the rest of next week to finish.

    Googed once, but then just opened Rex's blog here, and took answers directly from his completed puz. Cheating has no shame ...

    Clue Matches with forensics is still not making sense.
    Is there a Single WATTLED cassowary? Maybe in the W HOTEL lobby.
    ZARF! NUUK! Sounds like Batman comic SPEWS.

    Well, tucking my tail twixt my legs, and admitting deFEATS. No good ME DAY today.

    Hope y'all have a great Saturday!

    Two F's
    RooMonster
    DarrinV

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    1. Me too, total DNF in the NW corner!!! : /

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    2. Roo. FWIW
      Forensics also can mean the art of debate.
      Very tricky clue because that original meaning is not commonly used now even though listed first at Mirriam-Webster!

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  12. What the hell that was ridiculously hard but did it! But ... can somebody please explain how MANE is "trigger hair"? What is that?

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    1. Trigger was a horse.

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    2. RP explains it beautifully and with a picture...

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    3. EasyEd8:17 AM

      Yikes! I don’t think I’ll ever hear someone say “Put an operculum on it!” On the other hand, maybe we could start something like “It was tough to get a ZARF on”…For sure, I can say this puzzle was hard to get a ZARF on! Didn’t realize Greenland had a NUUK. Iran has to be jealous…OK, back to my coffee…

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    4. Anonymous8:18 AM

      Trigger (capitalized & a deliberate misdirect) was the name of Roy Rogers’ horse, so his hair is a mane.

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    5. EasyEd8:19 AM

      By now probably 5,000 folks have responded that Trigger was Roy Rogers’ horse, but can’t resist…

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    6. Roy Rogers' horse was Trigger....

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    7. Anonymous8:51 AM

      Why do you ask a question on here without even reading Rex's comments???

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    8. Anonymous 8:51 AM
      I am retired. Usually have plenty of time to read Rex and the blog. But remember this was a tough puzzle.It took me over an hour. And many people have much busier lives than I do. So maybe GPO read Rex fast and missed his explanation. It happens.

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    9. Anonymous9:47 PM

      lol thanks. I skimmed the writeup too hastily and so I deserve the eye rolls!

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  13. I threw in the towel on this one--just couldn't get that upper-left corner. With that U in place, I couldn't stop thinking about jUNo; I finally gave up and hit "reveal" on ANDY KIM. And then UCLA. And then URLS. In my defense, we're leaving for a long weekend in Philadelphia, and I still have to pack.

    Second day in a row for 'EM. And zero days without a Lego Movie reference.

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  14. Rex, try switching your search engine to Duck Duck Go. They have ads, but they are off on the side, where you can ignore them.

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    1. Anonymous8:44 AM

      It is duck duck go. I’m talking about the actual search results, not ads per se —RP

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  15. I eventually finished it without help, but I could have read a short novel in the same time. The NW corner was just brutal for me. And clearly ZARFS is not a word, I thought. I still don't think it is, all evidence to the contrary. The next time I'm in a coffee shop I'm going to ask where I can find the ZARFS. If the barista gives me a blank stare and then asks what a "ZARF" is, I'll respond, "Very funny. You had me there for a second."

    It's a debut, but the singular has appeared twice before.

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    1. Short novel, you say?
      I have one out right now! 125 pages in paperback form. If it's still available (unsure, I haven't looked lately 😁), search Darrin Vail wherever you get your books online. Title is Changing Times.

      Roo

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  16. Don’t get me wrong it was a very good Saturday puzzle but there was a lot of esoterica in one puzzled. The double wattled cassowary ???? Sheepishly I have to confess I nailed ZARFS because Fred Flinstone tried to use it in a scrabble game many years ago prompting me to look it up. Fred didn’t know what it meant and had a hard time justifying it. I frequently use it in scrabble to my wife’s dismay because any time you can nail a double letter or word score with a Z in it its gold. It did make me chuckle.

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  17. This was one of the most painfully difficult puzzles I've ever solved. I should be ecstatic but.... EPT. I don't know what the capital of Greeland is or what an operculum is but they're the kind of puzzle (and clue)pieces I can figure out from the crosses, but EPT as an actual word just no. The worst thing about EPT being in this puzzle is that both MANA and APT are words. APT even fits the clue if you use it facetiouslly. I miss a lot by doing only late week puzzles and I've been lucky enough to have never seen EPT before as far as I can tell. Three letter fill like that is what I expect on a densely themed Sunday not a themeless Saturday. Needless to say but it was just a bridge too far for me. I wasted all the time I had for this puzzle cracking that UCLA/ URLS crossing. I must have spent an hour trying to make BFFS, FORCEDOUT and HERA work. I finally tried LUNA as the goddess and the whole NW corner snapped into place.... except EPT. Maybe if they'd given it one of those initialism clues I might have gotten the MANE dad joke but it would still mean I have to put EPT in as an actual three letter word which it just ain't.

    BTW ZARF is one of those Scrabble Dictionary words you use when you're desperate to get the Z on a triple letter square. That's how I know it. Ugly but it is a word. EPT not so much.

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    1. Puzzlehoarder
      EPT
      I rarely disagree with you but I do here.
      You referenced the facetiously warning in the clue. So solvers are put on notice that there is a trick EPT is used by people exactly that way. I have heard it often enough. Apparently the first time it was used in writing was by E. B. White 90 years ago though it is more often spoken. But it is a thing. Nothing wrong with the answer, though on the tough side.

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  18. Oh well, my first DNF in 2026.... bummer. That entire NW corner was totally WoE!!!!! Had gaiA instead of LUNA; had "sAilEDOUT" instead of LANDEDOUT. I forgot that "EPT" was a thing. Forgot how to spell NUUK. And I too had INTrOACTS instead of INTWOACTS and so had the feared double-rATTLED cassowary. Oh well..... this is a puzzle I could find in the archives.... thanks, Byron, for humbling me today. : /

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    1. Anonymous5:09 PM

      Rick Sacra
      I thought of GAiA but FWIW GAIA is Greek and the clue did say Roman. BTW I made the same mistake rATTLED.

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  19. Anonymous8:30 AM

    Had to cheat a lot. And when the answers I looked up were entirely foreign to me, I didn’t feel bad doing it. So much trivia and non sequiturs. The forensic one still doesn’t jibe for me.

    And (Trigger hair) needed a question mark.

    I liked the obfuscations in some of the clues. But even then, when I knew what the puzzle was looking for, I wasn’t able to get there. Mostly because of things like FEUDISTS. Because FEUDISTS isn’t a thing.

    What an un-fun puzzle.

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    1. Anonymous9:16 AM

      A "?" would have ruined the Trigger hair clue, woulda sucked the fun right out of it.

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    2. Anonymous5:36 PM

      Anonymous 8:40 am
      Forensics originally meant only the art of debate. which is still listed first at Merriam-Webster. Tricky clue but valid. Also agree with Anonymous 9:16 that ? not needed on a Saturday. First letter of a clue hiding a name is a frequent weekend trick. Nothing out of the ordinary. Feudist is in Merriam-Webster

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    3. Anonymous12:10 PM

      What about an ‘s after trigger? I think it needed that at least. “trigger’s hair”
      Trigger hair to me doesn’t make sense for mane even knowing it’s a horses name without the apostrophe s.

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  20. Anonymous8:55 AM

    Andy Kim is known for this viral photo.

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    1. Anonymous11:04 AM

      Thanks for the ANDY KIM love. Will be forever grateful to him for his humanity on January 6. Here’s a link to the photo. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-america/behind-viral-photo-rep-andy-kim-cleaning-midnight-after-riots-n1253519

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    2. Anonymous1:06 PM

      Anon 11:04 AM - thanks for the link to that heart-warming photo and article. We could use a few more like Mr. Kim in Congress!

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    3. Anonymous3:35 PM

      99 more in the senate!

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  21. My impression while solving it was that the constructor was trying way, way too hard to be, cute, difficult, humorous, tricky . . . See the clue for MANE for example. A lot of the clue / answer combos just struck me as “if you say so” - see EVEN STEVEN, ZARFS, LIDS, UCLA, ANDY KIM, WHOTEL, COVENS etc.

    Rex papered over a lot of the warts. I don’t remember the details, but I seem to recall a fairy tale where a frog or ugly duckling or something gets kissed and becomes a handsome prince. Kiss this one and it will just go “ribbit”.

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    1. Southside
      I thought you were a bit harsh. Warts!? . Rex liked it (though I took over an hour, I did too You didn’t. Matter of taste.not quality. I like to puzzle out ( it is a puzzle) answers about which I have no idea at first. . I never saw the movie but Washington is a West Coast team. 4 letter abbreviation. So I tried the crosswordese UCLA. Had no idea about the clue for LID but I did have the I. Maybe that’s some fancy word for LID.
      MANE. Very much a matter of taste. I thought it was very clever.when I got it, ( 2 or 3 crosses, don’t remember) so not liking a puzzle doesn’t = bad.

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  22. Same sticking points as many, and a technical DNF as I did the RATTLED thing and left it in, because paper copy. WATTLED of course makes much better sense. I didn't parse W Hotel and was reading it as WHOTEL, even though I've been to one (visiting friends who were staying there, not in our pay grade). Went through ROUT and ROMP before ROLL and was torn between SPIKER and SETTER. SOI heard before IVE heard, took all the crosses to get ANDYKIM, and two thumbs down for FEUDIST. I mean really.

    Today's feather in the cap was remembering ZARFS, which I'd just seen somewhere on some list of "what do you call that thing?". Today's major face palm was MANE. Putting a proper name as the first word in a clue is one of those traps I often fail to notice Maybe sometime in the next thousand crosswords it will kick in.

    A Saturday that knows how to Saturday, BW. Big Whoopie for that, and thanks for all the fun.

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  23. Anonymous9:12 AM

    I literally laughed out loud at "feudies." I'm totally stealing that and adding it to the lexicon!

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  24. Anonymous9:24 AM

    Did anyone else put strips for 5D?? Just enough correct letters to get you off track. Totally fun puzzle!

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  25. Kyle Antonini9:26 AM

    I had “zarts” for a long time because there are actually suction cup tipped darts called “zartz” and so I thought “in forever” was “into”-something.

    And “ept” was also quite evil, imo.

    Agreed on the feudists bit… I figured it started with feud immediately, but had no idea how to finish it. Luckily I knew my French art and “even Steven” made quick sense.

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  26. Anonymous9:28 AM

    I had a real advantage being over 60 in solving this one. To be honest the first clue I got was ANDYKIM which made the NW fall quickly for me. But most of the puzzle felt like a slog to solve. The long answers weren’t too satisfying once revealed.

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  27. Anonymous9:34 AM

    Love a hard Saturday so was thrilled to see the Byron byline.

    First pass left me with:
    SOFA (wrong)
    PHONESHOME (suspiciously easy)
    AMOCO (I’m old)
    TARGA (wrong)
    NOVA (and fat)
    ADEN (years of xwords)
    PODS (yep, fat)

    was quite proud of my eptitude in the southern half.

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  28. Anonymous9:35 AM

    Ugh accidentally hit publish - no time to finish sorry

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  29. One thing the demented moron has been clear on - - Greenland can not be allowed to have a NUUK. EVENSTEVEN Miller is scratching his head over that one (as well as over the U.S. Constitution).

    I sometimes help the mama foxes feed their little ones. I love to make a meal with all the VIXENS in ADEN.

    I knew a girl, Deborah, who was so good at competitions that she devoured them. In other words, DEBATECONTESTS.

    bARFS seemed related enough to cup holders, but I couldn't think of a four-letter element that starts with B.

    Plenty of TRAVAIL for this solver today. Thanks, Byron Walden.

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    1. @egsforbreakfast 9:36 AM
      Silly me. I thought a millennial reporting on Twitter they purchased a Hawaiian four-stringer was a NUUK.

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  30. That was a journey....

    ZARFS, of all things, became an "Aha! I've got this!" once I had the ARF because it's a word in Persian.

    I had "The speaker" before LITTLEOLME, with its odd elision, as OFL noted. "Crested" for WATTLED for a hot minute.

    I was proud to have initially confused Obama's third, Republican secretary of defense, HAGEL, with Clinton's third, Republican secretary of defense, Cohen.

    I had FEUD but couldn't accept FEUDISTS until I saw I also had to accept RIVERSEINE, a formulation I've never before heard even though I was walking along said river last week.

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    1. Anonymous12:59 PM

      Humble brag? I will be walking along the banks of the Creek Tulpehocken in an hour or so!

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  31. Anonymous9:39 AM

    No one else went with ENTRE'ACTS for 8D? Tripped me up for quite awhile.

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    1. I did. I was so sure it was right!

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  32. Anonymous9:49 AM

    I turn to Google without hesitation, especially on Friday/Saturday, but even so I did not find today’s puzzle “challenging” (for a Saturday) in the least—time was almost 10 minutes below my average, and even more less than yesterday’s. Quite “whooshy” in fact.

    ZARFS was clearly the most obscure answer today, but actually got it fairly early from crosses.

    Great write-up from OFL today—LOL from me over his comments on FEUDISTS.

    webwinger

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  33. Anonymous9:50 AM

    What a delightful puzzle... I solve on paper so didn't know if I was right or wrong with "zarfs", it seemed so completely impossible but also the only possibility as far as I could tell!

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  34. DAVinHOP9:51 AM

    DNF for the incorrect INTrO ACTS x rATTLED cross as noted earlier. But otherwise this was quite a ROMP to solve; frustrating and impossibly misdirective at times...until piece-by-piece it slowly (5 minutes over average) came together .

    I knew Godthaab had been renamed as the capital of Greenland (day off; no political diversion here) and *thought* it was NUUK. That helped. (Geography nerd)

    So did knowing that it was ANDY KIM who replaced convicted briber and extortionist Bob ("Gold Bars") Menendez.

    And again that my wife had heard of the W HOTEL chain. Rex went to Whoville for the incorrect WHOTEL, but I'm thinking @Gary will have a clever riff on it being a spinoff of the well-known No-Tell Motel franchise.

    But had to succumb to one cheat. Had next to nothing in the SE, so looked up to see WTF is an operculum. LID opened the door for the two long downs, and ZARFS (only by inference after it had to be ZINC).

    Really enjoyed the write-up. Chia Obama! ("Yes You Can!") hilarious. And the Roy Rogers cover showed why RR had such a long and successful career in a dangerous environment; he brought a rifle to a six-gun showdown. (Great clue for MANE, btw).


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    1. Anonymous10:45 AM

      Same here. I finished with ZARFS, got the close-but-no-cigar message, and tried for several minutes to fix ZARFS without changing the Z, since I knew ZINC was right. Finally gave up and came here. I saw INTWOACTS, and was like, What the hell is an intwo act? Is that how Elmer Fudd says intro act? Finally realized it was IN TWO ACTS and feel sufficiently stupid now. Mostly enjoyable puzzle. Mostly.

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      You don’t know much about guns do you?

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    3. DAVinHOP1:23 PM

      Replies to both anons replying to me:

      LOL for "INTWO ACTS" spoken by Elmer Fudd.

      And true that; I know little about guns (though not feeling shortchanged). But I will say in response to the gist of your intended criticism, if Roy Rogers took up a position outside of Mile High, but within range of the (presumably) outlaws, the showdown might have been over quickly. Obviously, my comment referred to him sporting a rifle when the story was about six guns.

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  35. Some of you may recall when James WATTLED the Dept of the Interior under Reagan. Oy. He was a staunch anti-environmentalist who favored strip-mining and opened nearly all of our coastal waters to drilling. He boiled over and resigned after commenting that a panel on leasing had "every kind of mixture -- a Black, a woman, two Jews and a cripple." Later indicted on 18 counts of felony perjury and obstruction of justice and sentenced to five years probation. Died three years ago.

    I finally learned how to say farewell in Italian to my friend ERIVO Derci.

    Does SECONDSTRINGER ring a bell for fans of The Wire?

    MARGINAL reminds me of the staff statistician on Car Talk: Marge Innovera.

    IN TWO ACTS describes me getting out of bed in the morning. (Not sure what that means, but it sounds funny.)

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      It was said of James Watt that his idea of a wilderness was a parking lot before the lines were painted on it.

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  36. Stillwell9:56 AM

    Not my favorite. I feel like any other day of the week Rex would have referred to much of this puzzle as poor and imprecise cluing.

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  37. Butt-whoopingly hard. (There's one for you, Gary. Equal time for -ly words that don't give off a whiff of bragging!) Not as hard for me as another recent Saturday, but well up there. I think I enjoyed the other Saturday more though. Today's was a MELANGE of obscurity and clunk. A very special kind of gunk. ZARFS crossing the green-paint-y LARGE SODA. The clue for VIRGOS -- so, so dumb. RIVER SEINE landing with a clunk ("poetic" is a nice euphemism; my call is that it LANDED OUT). And a two-fer in both obscurity and clunk with FEUDISTS. Rex nails it re LITTLE OL' ME. Tortured on the Procrustean bed of the grid. And who among you remembered the first name EMMET from the Lego movie? Pointlessly obscure. Although I grant that EMMET is not that easy a name to clue.

    What is a DISS track, I tonelessly inquire. I'll guess it's some rap thing, when rappers are being all FEUDISTS with each other. Like, say, Kendrick Lamar and Drake, IIRC. Am I on the right track, har-de-har-har?

    I do not understand EVEN STEVEN and how it is clued. Anything to do with the letters in SEVEN?

    A wriggle of a smile over EPT, although I think one could argue it's a tad obscure. Kind of a DANK entry, in a 420 way, if you ask me. LOL-ing at "Operculum, e.g.".

    Before ADEN, "omaN". Before CHIME, "organ".

    I liked SECOND STRINGER, and also IN FOREVER. I like the literary clue for DEEP SLEEP. I grudgingly like DEBATE CONTESTS and the way it was clued. Byron got me good there. (En route I played with "paternity TESTS".) He also got me good with IN TWO ACTS crossing that double-WATTLED cassowary thing -- jeepers, dude. (In my muddled brain I had a weird MELANGE of entr'acte and introject and INTrOACTS going on -- I think I was rATTLED by that wascally bird, to the point where I internally pronounced INTWOACTS like rhotically challenged Elmer Fudd would the non-word "introacts".

    Chuck HAGEL bumping into EMMET Brickowski at the revolving door of the WHO?TEL. Seriously, I recognize the name, but I find names of cabinet secretaries have a way of disappearing down the memory hole. ANDY KIM's name is more recent, but I find him rather more forgettable than perhaps(?) I should -- maybe more on why, later.

    While it wasn't a KAYO of a puzzle for me, it did have some highlights, and I'm glad to learn a new word like ZARFS (can't wait to try that out at the 7-Eleven, "hey, do you have any more zarfs? I think you've run out"). All in all, it was quite the TRAVAIL!

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    1. Seven up is a tie so the teams are EVEN STEVEN…tough one since I would say “seven all.”

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    2. @tht 9:58 AM
      🤣 I think the slogan for W HOTELs in seedier neighborhoods is Butt-Whoopingly Whatever Whenever.

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  38. A proper Saturday VERY tough puzzle that took me 30 minutes with no cheating. Lest you think I’m bragging…I’m happy that WATTLE actually occurred to me, as well as MANY other things…BUT. I actually had a DNF because after I filled in the last square I got the “nope” message…and since I don’t care about streaks…”check puzzle” revealed…yep…I had LIp instead of LID, and I was wrong…I had kind of wondered whether the NYT had expanded their “naughty word” territory, but heck…I’d never heard of DISS track either so I went with it! :D

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    1. @Beezer 10:05 AM
      🤣 Puhleeze don't give that crew any ideas. Pleasant International Space Station?

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    2. 🥚zactly Gary! 🤣

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  39. DISS (I had Disc), NUUK, OPERCULUM, HAGEL, LID, EMMET - this definitely was a challenging Saturday.
    @Rex - Reagan endorsing Chesterfields? Who knew???

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      If operculum were a liP rather than a liD, we'd have had a _iss track

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  40. Anonymous10:40 AM

    I’m sorry, “ept”??

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  41. Maybe-fun-fact: on submarines in the U.S. Navy, mounted cupholders (which are pretty common, since a sudden change in angle can happen and you don't want to spill coffee all over the deck) are called ZARFS.

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      That IS a fun fact

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    2. Anonymous1:21 PM

      Yep. One of the best comments this blog has seen in ages.

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  42. Bob Mills10:42 AM

    Too hard for me.

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  43. Anonymous11:16 AM

    I definitely expected Rex to take issue with the multiple references to corporate advertising - WHOTEL and the name of the gas company credit card(!).

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  44. A ricer produces a finely mashed result (better for guacamole than salsa) while a dicer produces little cubes.

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    1. You are absolutely correct! However, I still got hung up on how a DICER could be (or even, what it is exactly) on tomatoes and avocados. I thought that MAYBE a ricer would be ok for avocados. Gotta say…I’m not big on “equipment” taking up my kitchen space (or counters!) so I think most peeps would be confused by that clue.

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  45. Anonymous11:28 AM

    Must agree with OFL. This grid is splattered with green paint. That and Byron is really dragging it with the over clever clueing, making for a trivia contest, I’m thinking Ken Jennings DNF. What was that UCLA reference all about? And can someone explain EPT? Is that the ROSE & Bruno Mars song?

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  46. Very Hard. I don't like to spend more than a few minutes looking for errors, so I had a DNF with INTrOACTS/rATTLED. There have been many complaints about puzzles becoming too easy (source: Gary's list), but the last 2 weeks of FRI/SATs have been on point, maybe even thornier, which is great to see.

    Congrats to Mina Kimes for winning Celebrity Jeopardy!

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  47. Reúnelos.

    Not for me. Not for anybody with FEUDISTS sitting there like it's okay.

    URLs are from 1994. Is that modern?

    SCRIM if you say so.

    Operculum if you say so.

    NOVA if you say so.

    ZARFS if you ... why are you saying so?

    I believe it's okay to know nothing about South Carolina.

    I call my coats "coats."

    I listened to a full minute of that Andy Kim song and I blame that for making me too dumb to do this puzzle.

    I coached high school forensics for many years and don't remember ever one time anybody calling it a DEBATE CONTEST.

    CHIA PETS are still popular.

    IN TWO ACTS. Ugh.

    Marriott spinoffs. Ugh.

    KAYO. Ugh.

    DISS track. Ugh.

    Pharyngeal. Ugh.

    "EPT"... AYFKM.

    I did listen to the periodic table song video again. I don't think it's as helpful as a physics unit, but it's fun.

    I didn't know a single person in the entire grid.

    ❤️ PHONES HOME. LITTLE OL' ME. STAY BACK. Spelling combinations.

    People: 7
    Places: 3
    Products: 5
    Partials: 3
    Foreignisms: 0
    --
    Gary's Grid Gunk Gauge: 18 of 66 (27%)

    Funny Factor: 5 😄

    Tee-Hee: SPEWS. VIXENS. DANK.

    Uniclues:

    1 AI feature of a "modern" wrap.
    2 La-Z-Boy achieved.
    3 Witches at the house.
    4 Syrup echolocators.
    5 Sends everybody to their rooms.
    6 Strawberry, whipped cream and barbed wire concoctions my dominatrix uses.
    7 Nehi in a Royce.
    8 Gots ta have da chronic.

    1 COAT PHONES HOME
    2 TRAVAIL EXCISED
    3 STAY BACK COVENS
    4 KAYO SONARS
    5 SPLITS FEUDISTS
    6 VIXEN'S MELANGES (~)
    7 ROLLS LARGE SODA
    8 NEEDS DISS DANK

    My Fascinating Crossword Uniclue Keepsake from Last Year: Humorous keepsakes from the cannibal's gift shop. PENDULUM MOLARS.

    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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    1. @Gary - your post today is an appropriate counterweight to Rex reviewing it with kid gloves on. I’m on your side of the fence today. Rex is (admittedly) willing to overlook a lot since he is so hungry for a more challenging Saturday, and it appears as though he has plenty of company here today in that regard. I got the sense though that the clues were “trying too hard”.

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    2. @SouthsideJohnny 12:15 PM
      You are a poet and a scholar. "Rex is (admittedly) willing to overlook a lot since he is so hungry for a more challenging Saturday...." This is a bad puzzle, and only a tiny percentage of solvers want something like this. But they're loud and desperate for punishment and this with all its warts fits the bill. This blog brings that hungry minority together and creates a false sense that lots of people are enthused by the pain. The number of solvers here who are regular participants and good solvers that failed today is damning. And now for the joke: My dominatrix understands the transformative power of pain and perhaps she could help those yearning for the impenetrable Saturdays of ancient myths.

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    3. Can I have an aaaaaMEN to clues “trying too hard!”

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    4. Gary
      Disagree about the puzzle.
      But no 4 uniclue is one-off your best. From boxing to syrup unexpected.
      I am not masochistic. I am retired. Have plenty of time.

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  48. Challenging for me, satisfying to finish. Up top, a lone COAT and an incorrect Wyndham kept me from getting anywhere. I finally got a cluster in the lower SE with NOVA, ADEN, and DANK and built my way...slowly... up and out from there.

    Do-overs: STAY away; Wyndham. Last in and couldn't believe it would be right: ZARFS. Thank goodness I knew: cassowaries have WATTLEs; jUno's chariot is drawn by peacocks. Saved in the bleak NW by taking a closer look at 1D and realizing we weren't looking for the name of a person.

    @Anonymous from yesterday - Your comment on clues like 39A that look like quotes but lack quotation marks really helped me get SECOND STRINGER. Thank you for that!

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    1. Because the hotel biz has “merged” so much…at one point I thought Westin. I searched later and found out that yes…Westin and Marriott are part of “the same” megacorp. Gotta say…I haven’t noticed WHOTEL.

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  49. Anonymous12:01 PM

    Tough! A little over 2x my Saturday average; this one took me back to before I got good at crosswording.

    Rex's discussion of 'go-to' with regard to websites sent my mind to the early days of the internet, when you'd commonly hear the phrase 'Point your browser to...' and then they'd give the URL. I bet if you told a 15-year-old today to 'point their browser' somewhere, they'd have no idea what you were talking about!

    In good humor, I will call Rex a liar: Rex, you really remember "nothing" about Back to the Future Part II? I bet you remember the same two things about it that I do: 1. it starred Michael J. Fox, and 2. there was a DeLorean time machine in it! That kidding aside, I agree that the percentage of the population who could read that clue and say "Ah, yes, UCLA!" is close to zero!

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  50. Anonymous12:05 PM

    Sorry to all those who got fooled into INTROACTS, but the clue said 'on Broadway'; on Broadway, there are plays (most of which are musicals); there is no 'opening act' or 'intro act' it's just the play with nothing coming before it!

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  51. Not for me. Uninferrable gunk crossing gunk is not a substitute for clever diabolical wordplay, which is what I like to see on a Saturday. Your mileage will vary of course if DISS tracks, ZARFS, Opercula, ANDYKIM, Chesterfields, and Back To The Future Part II football outcomes are part of your wheelhouse. The rest of the puzzle was challenging but these two blocks had a Wheel of Fortune 'pick a letter' feel to them, but sadly, without the fortune.

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      I had no idea about the movie. But the clue says Washington a West Coast team. 4 letters West Coast U CLA. Old crosswordese. So I tried it. . I did know that Kim is the most common Korean name so I tried it but otherwise again no idea of either person. My point is trivia doesn’t have to be in a solver’s wheelhouse to get the answer

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  52. Wow, I feel like I just ran the Marathon, one of the most challenging Saturdays for me in a long while, what a workout! But with that comes the same joy of accomplishment knowing it was all worth the effort.
    As always, happy to learn a lot I didn't know, I'm looking at you ZARFS, SCRIM, NUUK and EPT. Not sure any will come up in convos, but all fun to know.
    The clever/tough cluing were at a level I haven't yet experienced. DEBATECONTESTS, MANE, URLS,COAT, SECONDSTRINGER, INTWOACTS...absolutely topnotch in mis-direction and weirdness. It took forever for so much to fall, but when it did, pure joy.
    I may be alone, but I didn't think any of the long ones fell flat. I agree with @Rex that RIVERSEINE is a bit over poetic, but I still smiled when it fell into place.
    Usually there is one section that slows me down. Today, NW,NE, SE, SW and middle all had me stymied in one fashion or other but the hunt and the brain work were pure good times. My feelings for this journey were in line with @Lewis who articulates it much better than I ever could - so, "what he said".
    Byron, this was a proper Saturday with all the fight and resistance I look for. I may need a nap now, but this was a great trip. Thank you!

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    1. Hugh
      FWIW and to counter Rex’s criticism
      River Thames ( or the River Seine) is how the British say it every day. So it is not only poetic but British English. But for Americans it is admittedly an added layer of toughness. I think a rock group referred to the River Charles (Boston MA) to fit the song so there’s your poetic (like) reference!

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  53. Anyone else try "piss track"? I thought it was maybe a yellow snow thing.

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    1. I did. See my comment above. :)

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  54. Anonymous1:07 PM

    I did not enjoy this puzzle much though I was absurdly pleased when I got some of the more obscure references. Still, I like to see real words in puzzles and some of these were quite a stretch.
    Oh, and - Days Without a Sports Reference: Still 0.

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  55. Tough! I finished this in well over my medium Saturday time and did not get the happy music. I was sure something was wrong in the ZARFS/LID area but I was wrong. Turns out me too for DNF with INTrOACTS/rATTLED.

    I like a challenge but some of this was just mean. Liked it less than @Rex did.

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  56. Anonymous1:39 PM

    Called out!

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  57. I thought this one bordered on being a parody of a Saturday puzzle. A lot of the clueing struck me as trying way too hard to be obscure if not inscrutable. The 6D clue "Wind pipe" is a prime example. That's what we breath through, right? But CHIME?! A wind CHIME typically has a ring hook, a suspension platform, tubes, a striker/clapper, a wind sail and cords to hold everything together. Nary a pipe to be seen. And so on.

    The relatively low word and black square counts were achieved with some convenient help when URL, PHONE HOME, SPLIT, MELANGE, ROLL, NEED, DEBATE CONTEST, ME DAY, FEAT, SEEP, SONAR, ZARF, VIRGO, FEUDIST, COVEN, VIXEN, POD and SPEW all came up short of filling their slots. Yep, this grid earns a POC Marked rating.

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  58. Lots to like and lots to dislike in this gnarly Saturday offering. When I see Byron Walden’s byline I get tingles; they can be fun or they can crush me. This one had more than a bit of both.

    Lots of clever stuff but it’s “little old me” or “li’l ol’ me”, but not LITTLE OL’ ME. And FEUDISTS? Gimme a break. And who ever said RIVER SEINE? It’s just The Seine. Everything else was pretty good and the cassowary brought back a vivid memory of a road trip in Northern Queensland.

    I was traveling north of Brisbane toward our much anticipated sailing outing in the Whitsunday Islands when we stopped at a roadside ice cream place. There were signs everywhere warning us not to engage with the cassowaries. I took my ice cream cone and wandered down to the beach. I like ocean views, they give me a sense of calmness. When I was returning to the picnic table to rejoin my wife, son, and daughter in law, I stopped short because there was a large prehistoric looking bird in my way. I froze. He froze. We were eye to eye. He must have been 5 feet tall and I am just 5 feet 9 and was standing on lower ground. He stared at me menacingly and I stared at him resolutely for what seemed like a lifetime but was probably 30 to 40 seconds before he decided to move along. I didn’t notice how many wattles he had. My heart was racing too hard. What a terrifying beast.

    I have encountered bears in the wild -I take my fly rod to some very remote areas - and I know how to make myself as big as possible and back out quietly, but I didn’t really know what to do when confronted by a left-over dinosaur. I guessed right and it worked out but I was still shaking 20 miles up the road.

    So thanks, Byron Walden, for a difficult Saturday solve (ZARFS, really?) and an odd flashback.

    I just looked it up and apparently all the cassowaries in Queensland are double wattled. And they’re all scary.

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  59. I was kind of busy earlier so JUST now listened to Rex’s Rock Me Gently. I knew the name, but could not draw the song into my mind. Now I know why. I would’ve pegged it as “bubblegum” music of um…’67-69…when I was in junior high. High level bubblegum, but I wouldn’t have pegged it as 1974.

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  60. Niallhost3:36 PM

    Yet another puzzle where I DNF, which had not been the case for a long time until recently. Managed to battle my way to the end correctly (with ZARFS and the like) only to be faced with an unforgiving NW, and that's after I somehow miraculously knew ANDY KIM from my Sirius/XM 70s station.

    I tried every version of a Roman Goddess I could think of, even ones that aren't real. I figured a "Cattle Call" was an "Open" something, but all I could get to was opeN DEMos, and obviously that didn't help. No idea on the COAT. The "Go to" clue was bad IMO, and who knew about UCLA beating anyone in any movie. Never occurred to me that it was a University. I had asiA in there for a bit thinking it might have something to do with International Relations. So close and yet no cigar (which is what I thought a chesterfield was a type of, and there might also be a Capote cigar maybe? Not that it fit, but it's as close as I came to even guessing what that might be, other than seAT - like a chair...).

    B.R.U.T.A.L.

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  61. Anonymous3:59 PM

    Too hard for me. Kudos for those who honestly solved the puzzle. No 🎈for me.

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  62. I found this puzzle to be an absolutely dreckish wreck. Way too much trivia, not enough clever wordplay. I don’t care about college sports outcomes from decades before my birth, and that the game was featured in a forgettable middle-film sequel in the century before this one doesn’t make it any less a morsel of arcane nonsense trivia. The bulk of this grid could have been clued as “Made-up word” or “Random name” or “{x number of} random letters in a row” and it would have made no difference when it came to how deeply unpleasant the solving experience ultimately was for me. In fact, I’d likely have actually enjoyed it more.

    I like a Saturday puzzle to have teeth, but this one’s sharpened fangs were dentures, and its difficulty felt more akin to dementia than anything witty. Not once did I feel that satisfying moment of “Aha!” when landing on the answer here. Instead, every time I finally got an answer, I wanted to chuck the puzzle at the wall and go do something more pleasant. Anything more pleasant, like having my hand chewed off by a rabid weasel. But due doubtlessly to some combination of neurodivergent stubbornness and self-loathing, I somehow persisted until I finished.

    But make no mistakes: I found no joy in the experience at all.

    I give it fourteen thumbs down as well as a resounding, prolonged and full-throated “Boooooooo.”

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  63. Unlike OFL, I always check the byline and when I saw Byron Walden’s, I knew we weee in for what I hoped was a “real” Saturday. I have probably solved at least most of the many puzzles Byron has presented since his 2001 debut in the NYT (yep, looked it up), and I always know I will learn a thing or two. I also know that I will struggle mightily. Both true today, but alas, without the joy of surviving a worthy opponent.

    I watch Jeopardy almost daily. On days when the categories are way outside my wheelhouse, I sometimes pause the show and search the clue for the ever-present often very clever little bit in the “answer” that tickles the brain just enough to come up with the right ”question.”

    I look for the same thing in difficult crosswords. Well crafted clues leave the breadcrumbs necessary for the more experienced and clever solver to connect them at a minimum to the right place to find the answer. Too often today (as many have already described) the clues were just deliberately vague poseurs, not truly carefully curated clues worthy of their perfectly acceptable Saturday (meaning more difficult) answers.

    I know Mr. Waldon is a very EPT Saturday constructor and have likely solved most of his NYTXWs. This one disappointed me. When I saw the byline, I was glad I’d poured my coffee into the carafe so I could make a second pot. I needed it, but by the time I got the happy music, I was more frustrated than elated. Too many “non-clues” - words that left insufficient information to allow the solver the aha moment to connect the dots.

    I watch Jeopardy. On days where a category is far outside my wheelhouse, I often pause the show to study the clue. There’s always a very clever word or two that points in the specific direction of the Jeopardy-required “question.” For me, crossword clues and Jeopardy “answers” should have in common at least one breadcrumb that tickles the brain enough to allow (in the case of harder Saturday puzzles) the solver to connect clue to answer.

    In today’s puzzle, we found ourselves often out in the forest without our breadcrumbs. DICER at 27A is a perfect example. “Aid in making salsa” could be anything and as a very adept cook with a near-professionally equipped kitchen, I wouldn’t use a DICER for salsa even if I had one. Actually, I do have several. They are called knives. That non-clue exemplifies my disappointment with many of today’s clues. They just tried so hard to be clever that they told the solver nothing that adequately pointed to the answer.

    I was very excited to see the BW byline today because I have enjoyed many of his other Saturday puzzles. I hoped for a tussle, but a fair one. And I enjoyed parts of this one. We had clues that the solver could know or not know such as RIVER SEINE depending on whether one knows the painting. Those are fair in a tougher puzzle because they are gettable, including by looking up an answer. ZARFS was likely new but unfortunately clued much like DICER - no real “clue.”

    I was lucky with the ZARFS though. Decades ago, A client of mine who escaped Iran and an abusive situation introduced me to her lovely strong coffee and the elegant cups without handles. I bring my set out for guests and love to tell people about their ornate ZARFS.

    While I welcomed some Saturday level difficulty, and usually enjoy a battle with Byron Waldon, today’s left me sad and still longing for a real Saturday with clues with breadcrumbs.

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    1. CDilly52. Loved your comment about DICERs. I did the puzzle late last night and made a mental note to rake it over the coals for this in the morning. Come dawn I had forgotten. I also have a fair number of high quality knives in my kitchen - about fifteen, I think, of Japanese, French, and German origin, distributed between 2 knife drawers according to their function. I'm not even really sure what BW and the editors mean by DICER. It evokes hazy images of something my mother had, called a Veg-a-matic. Ugh.

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  64. I'm postin later than snot, today. Went out for breakfast, then out to do shoppin. Did some of the puz along the way, but ...

    B.W. dude has a really far-out word list, if he's usin one to help AI-generate this here puzfill. It was a 66-word ZARF-orama.

    staff weeject pick from 4 choices: EPT. Clearly an example of a chew-a-pet.

    Thanx, Mr. Walden dude. Welcome back. Quite a rodeo.

    Masked & Anonymo5Us

    p.s.
    Runt puzzle [all hand-generated from a list in M&A's head]:
    **gruntz**

    M&A

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  65. Anonymous5:57 PM

    Terrible clue for URLS. I'll tell ya where it can go to!

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  66. MetroGnome6:16 PM

    "EPT"??!!

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  67. Anonymous7:51 PM

    Rare. I mostly agreed with Rex. But A LOT of people were really mad at the puzzle I dnf’d but I thought it was on me. Too lazy to finish a letter run

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  68. Man, I can't wait for the review of tomorrow's puzzle. One of the absolute worst in recent memory for both theme and fill.

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  69. Same as another post, entreacte had to be overcome and it took a while and a lot of head scratching. First, why drop the e and add an s. And I heard of a fabric called scrim but screm??? The debatec???test had that damn test on the end made me lose track of that answer. Unlike Rex, I saw “Matches’ as a noun but it only kept me thinking of tests. Anyway finally medleys finally helped. Just bad brain couldn’t dig up another word for medleys for a long time. (MELODIES was best guess, sad). Actually playing with government employee HA_EL’s middle letter and trying “G” got me on MELANGE.

    Chesterfield coat I thought would be well known to crossword oldtimers like Rex.

    Satisfying to solve it. Been a while since we had a hard one

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  70. Anonymous10:30 AM

    I meant to comment yesterday as I had a *lot* of thoughts about this one but most of them have already been mentioned. I'm especially glad to see the props to now-Senator, then-Representative Andy Kim for cleaning up after the January 6 insurrectionists.

    But after scrolling through all the comments I don't think I've seen anyone mention the repetition of "me" in LITTLEOLME and MEDAYS? I don't personally care all that much but some people (*cough* Rex *cough*) usually make a point of calling them out.

    Also, can someone please explain the connection between DEBATECONTESTS and forensics?

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    1. Anonymous8:34 AM

      Competitive Forensics: The art and study of public speaking, argumentation, and debate, particularly in academic settings. (Merriam Webster )

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  71. Anonymous11:01 AM

    Crashed and burned on this one… sigh!

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  72. Anonymous11:21 AM

    This was an exercise in obscurity and nonsensical answers. Horrible puzzle, no idea why it got so many stars.

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  73. Hard, which I appreciate, but not too fun, which I don’t. 12 of the clues were down and across pairs converging in a final “S”, either plurals or present tense verbs. Six wasted squares, a lot of dead space in the grid.

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  74. ZARF was a gimme thanks to Joel Fagliano. https://www.nytimes.com/crosswords/game/mini/2021/11/29

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  75. Anonymous7:17 PM

    I finally finished but seriously gave thought to giving up crossword puzzles altogether, considering all the time I spend on them. Did anybody else take a stab at THEROYALWE for 18A ‘Precious self-reference’?

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