Relative difficulty: Medium-Challenging
Theme answers:
- INDIC(T) (4D: Charge)
- "AM I NO(T)?" (5D: Question from someone seeking reassurance)
- EVEN(T) (12D: Occasion)
- TARO(T) (15D: Source of a deal with The Devil?)
- ATLAS(T) (6D: "Finally!")
- TEASE(T) (7D: Service with cups and saucers)
- DAYS PAS(T) (13D: Previous times)
- BRA(T) (27D: Kid who might get grounded)
- OPEN SEA(T) (14D: Welcome sight in musical chairs)
- DELIS(T) (30D: Take off the market)
- ABU(T) (38D: Be against, in a way)
- DIVER(T) (31D: Reroute)
- SCRIP(T) (32D: Something a reality show lacks)
- EGO(T) (40D: Achievement for Whoopi Goldberg and Rita Moreno, in brief)
- BASAL(T) (33D: Igneous rock that makes up most of Venus's surface)
Precisely; exactly; perfectly; with great attention to detail. // The origins of this phrase are uncertain, but it has been observed in print since at least 1693,[1] and likely was around well before that. The possibly related phrase to a tittle is found in a 1607 play, The Woman Hater by Francis Beaumont and John Fletcher ("I'll quote him to a tittle"). The T in the phrase to a T is likely the first letter of a word, with tittle being the most likely source.
- Other theories with little evidence point to golf tees, for their small size; this may have at least influenced the alternative form to a tee. Some speculate a relationship with T-square, a measuring device introduced around the turn of the century. Others claim the expression refers to the correct completion of the letter t by crossing it.
- In print from "Two Years Before the Mast" published in 1840, and, even then, using quotes, refers to the practice of squaring up a yardarm with a mast on a sailing ship such that it made a perpendicular T. (wikipedia)
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So I acknowledge that DOWN / TO A T is a valid phrase, but it didn't exactly land, to my ears. But it does work in a very literal way for today's concept. I want to call attention to the fact that none of the "T"-ending words look like gibberish in the grid; without the "T," every one of them looks like a real (if unclued) word. That is the kind of elegance of execution a theme like this needs. Maybe some people won't notice, but it's a nice touch.My gender has nothing to do with my frustration here: it’s 2011 and I am not Suzy Homemaker from 1952 who follows rigid gender roles to a T. [The Frisky]
It fits to a T the reform pledge that former Mayor Ed Koch circulated during the campaign – signed by 138 of the state’s 212 legislators. [New York Daily News]
[H]e seems like the kind of guy who would value life experience more than possessions, and at times that philosophy fits him to a T. [Superbike Planet]
After finding out its definition, she decided the word fit her sixth-grade girls team to a T. [The Salem News]
The puzzle does have a truly ugly SW corner, though. Also, a tough corner (esp. if you don't watch The Last of Us, which I do not). That clue on LEISURE made getting into that corner at all a real challenge. I had SCRIBES and still, even with the first letters of all the downs down there, I was stuck. I had to go down and get SSN and then claw my way back out. Inferring DOWN got me the "W" for RIPSAW, and I was on my way, but yeesh. ADP? American Dollar Processors? Andy's Downtown Payroll? (it's American Data Processing) (51A: Big payroll service co.). Never ever ever a fan of random three-letter initialisms of non-everyday things where the initials are a complete "???" I've seen ADP in puzzles before, but no way that thing is ever sticking. No one would put that answer in their grid if they weren't totally desperate. And CEDE TO ... oof, OK, I guess. As for The Last of Us, I know this is a popular show, but it's HBO popular, which means people who watch it tend to vastly overestimate exactly how many people are watching it.
Season two's premiere of the post-apocalyptical TV series “The Last of Us” counted 5.3 million viewers across the linear HBO channel and streaming service HBO Max, an increase compared to the first episode of the first season. However, season two's final was watched by only 3.7 million people. The TV show is based on a video game franchise of the same name and was produced by Sony Pictures Television. (staista.com)I know the show is based on a video game, so maybe this TESS is in the video game too? I dunno. I just know that 55A: Joel's smuggling partner on "The Last of Us" was just a random four-letter name to me, without even any indication of gender. That under ADP (ugh) crossing CEDE TO—ugly. The clue on LEISURE is actually good, though (49A: This isn't working!)—it just made that corner that much harder.
I made mistakes everywhere. TAU for TAO was particularly awful (2D: Fields medalist Terence). In that same NW corner, I had "AM I OK?" at 5D: Question from someone seeking reassurance—that may have been the deepest and most brutal hole I fell into, since that answer felt so right. Oh, and I drink gin ... not infrequently ... but I have never heard gin described as PINEY (18A: Like some gin and cleaning products). I'm not saying no one does this. I'm saying that if you struggled with that answer, I see you, I hear you, I understand, and I would like to validate your feelings about the not-obvious connection between gin and PINEY. Floral? Botanical? London Dry? Old Tom? Sloe? So many words and terms I associate with gin. Gin that takes like cleaning product? Not familiar. Don't know what I had in there at first, but it wasn't PINEY.
Bullets:
- 14A: ___ Moshtegh, "My Year of Rest and Relaxation" novelist (OTTESSA) — still haven't read her, but I've seen her name (and her books) a bunch over the (recent) years. I knew her name was unusual, but I thought it was even more unusual than it ended up being. "Isn't there an 'H' in there somewhere?" I think I was thinking of her last name. Anyway, I knew this one but didn't know it know it. Kinda surprised to see OTTESSA and TESS in the same grid. They may be unrelated names, but they feel and look related.
- 1D: X, for one (APP) — now I'm remembering why getting started was such slow going. I got ATRIA fine, but "confirmed" it with TAU (wrong), and then couldn't "confirm" any of the other Downs. With three of those Downs, the reason was obvious (I didn't know what was going on with the theme). But with APP, ugh. &^#$%! why is the deranged billionaire white supremacist guy's right-wing disinformation pig sty of an APP in here? So many APPs in the world! So! Many! I know, I know, X gives you the opportunity to misdirect people. Congrats, it worked ...
- 16A: Performer known for her runs (POP DIVA) — vocal runs
- 11A: Rx for a root canal (PAIN MED) — oof, yet another reason that NW was tough. Nothing particularly "root canal"-y about a PAIN MED (which looks a little odd to me in the singular, but I'll allow it).
- 43D: Tool with coarse teeth (RIPSAW) — had the "R" and wrote in RASPER for some reason (!?!?!)
- 15D: Source of a deal with The Devil? (TARO(T)) — even knowing the "T" gimmick, I struggled with this one. The Devil is a card in a standard TAROT deck.
- 27D: Kid who might get grounded (BRA(T)) — the answer where I (finally) figured out the "T" thing. First thought there was some kind of wordplay going on, like maybe the "Kid" was a goat, or else "grounded" was going to have some airplane-type meaning, I don't know. But the crosses all filled in pretty easily and then I was like "BRA? But that's missing a letter. Where's the ... ohhhhh, there it is." I then went back up and took care of that formerly impossible NW corner:
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Really disliked this puzzzle. A real (unsatisfying) slog for me
ReplyDeleteHated hated hated it
DeleteHard, but I dug it. ¯\_(γ)_/¯
DeleteDisliked.it, so annoying to keep track of missing T's, especially when I checked for a typo
Delete16:57 for me this morning, so I think that’s medium-challenging on Thursday. The difficulty was mostly about figuring out the trick—The biggest T in the grid is not involved in the theme. So what is that 1st T about? Is it the title “T” to inform us what the puzzle is all about? Very confusing…. Until you get DOWN to the revealer and see that only answers that can go DOWN TO A T are going to be involved in the theme…. So that 1st T is just some blocker squares, nothing more. And you don’t have to think about T’s on the acrosses. Once that was settled it got much easier. At first, wanted (T)EEN for who would get grounded…. But now we see that all the t-less partials are also words in their own right, and the T only becomes necessary to make the answer fit the clue…. BRA turns into BRAT and so forth. DAYSPA and OPENSEA are especially nice on their own, then converting to DAYSPAST (nice change of singular DAY to plural DAYS there!) and OPENSEAT. The other tricky part of this puzzle for me was the beginning, the NW…. just couldn’t see what was going to become DAYSPAST for a long time. It was DEEPPAST or DARKPAST or… something else. PINEY was a mystery to me (I don’t really think of gin as “PINEY” but I’m not much of a drinker anyway), and POPDIVA… oof, took me forever to see that one. Run could’ve referred to an athlete, a pianist, I just couldn’t figure it out. Finally saw FALCONS and then the rest came into view. Rafael and Sala, nice to see your bylines this morning! A proper Thursday challenge, really enjoyed it! : )
ReplyDeleteMaybe it's jus je lag, but this puzzle really kicked my but. Especially the northeas corner.
ReplyDelete(but this --> bu this)
DeleteI blame autocorrec
Liked the puzzle and figured out the reveal quickly but struggled northwest. Pop Diva made zero sense to me. And yes, Tess is in the (excellent) video game.
ReplyDeleteAll aboard the NW struggle bus! POPDIVA was the last thing to fall. APP and TAO were inscrutable to me as clued, and I wanted an actual medicine for 11A not just PAINMED so I was trying to think like... percocet? ibuprofen? FALCONS did NOT reveal itself because I couldn't get to RIPPLING forever.
DeleteSame here on NW!
DeleteSame. The Tao clue was way obscure, and I wouldn't have known indic is a word. I kept thinking 1 across was aorta, even though it didn't seem right being non-plural. And pop diva is just contrived, I'm sorry.
DeleteLots of people I don’t know in this one, which always makes for a non-whooshy solve. Finished in the NW, which is unusual—that was a tough corner. Had the revealer as DOne TO A T, which sounds more idiomatic to my ear but doesn’t fit the puzzle as well as the correct answer. While solving, I did note with pleasure that all the themers made real words without the final T. Nice detail! Thanks for the challenging Thursday, Rafi and Sala!
ReplyDeleteABU?
DeleteDhabi! (Is this a new version of “Marco Polo?”)
DeleteYes, ABU Dhabi. Or the name of the monkey in Disney’s Aladdin. But that’s getting into minor characters in children’s movies, an area currently occupied by the cast of Frozen.
DeleteI thought this deserved 4 or 4-1/2 stars. Such a clever theme, so perfectly revealed, and so elegantly executed--as @Rex said, every word in the grid made sense with and without the terminal T. It was challenging for me--I couldn't get ATRIA (I had AortA and veins, both of which came out fairly quickly--biology was not my strongest subject in HS :)) and never have heard of OTTESSA, but the crosses were all fair. The capitalization of the T in The Devil clued me in that it was TAROT, which got me the theme. And I loved the clue on LEISURE. I enjoyed it a lot, despite (or because of) the difficulty.
ReplyDelete14 of 15 downs worked wi_hou_ _he T, wha_ does "indic" mean? I'll google i_ af_er I ge_ _o _he end of _he commen_s, _hanks
DeleteIndic: Of or relating to India. Or, relating to, the Indo-Aryan languages.
Delete_ hanks, now I don'_ need _o ge_ around _o googling i_
DeleteFun Thursday solve. Northwest corner was a challenge. Agree with OFL, could have used a better clue for APP and skip the nazi porn bar that used to be Twitter.
ReplyDeleteYep. For whatever reason, I always forget that Twitter is now X.
DeleteNo problem with the gimmick, but many clues for things I don’t know & have no interest in knowing.
ReplyDeleteSame here. For me, this was the worst of all possible Thursdays: a really easy gimmick, but a grid filled with unknown names, questionable usages, gamer lingo, and clues stretched to the breaking point. Thanks, but no thanks.
DeleteThe Ts are revealed upon first glance of the empty grid - handsome. Our blog pal Rafa certainly put some effort into this one - cute trick and well revealed. The themers are so densely packed in there I felt the overall fill suffered slightly.
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BONITO, TYRANT, RIPPLING - all top notch. Rex highlights the HBO trivia - there’s second rate horror film trivia and of course OTTESSA. I did get through (barely) My Year after listening to friends drone on about it over dinner a few years ago. Not my idea of a good time - I understand the absurdist slant of the pessimism but there is nothing offered in conclusion - no dark humor or satire - no endgame - just drudgery. I’ll pass next time.
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Enjoyable Thursday morning solve.
The preacher talked to me and he smiled
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ReplyDeleteWhat a T's of a puz! Got yer 6 T's with left/right symmetry, leading to a whopping 46 Blockers! Dang. But, doesn't seem that many with them laid out like this. Weird.
Loved the fact that all the T ending words are actual words without the T! That is impressive. To get words ending in T's, whilst still getting clean fill in the crossers is extremely tough to do. Hats off to the constructors.
Liked it. Something different. Smooth. NW corner kicked my butt, though. Didn't know 2D, had AoRtA for ATRIA, and INDIC(T) wasn't showing up in the ole brain. Cheated up there by leaving some squares blank, and looking at Rex's completed grid to fill in. Also had feTA for PITA, so had both a DNF and a FWE. Way to go me. π
Would've been a skosh neater not having any other T's in the puz, bit that was probably nigh impossible.
Hope y'all have a great Thursday!
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Did not enjoy. The last time Rafa had a puzzle, I commented that it was not like his usual puzzles in that it had none of the unknown names and modern slang I associate with his work. This one, admittedly a co-creation, was much more what I'm used to. OTTESSA, ARI, TESS, TAO, and GAYMER were all unknowns.
ReplyDelete"There's no stopping me!" seems a terrible clue for I GOTTA.
Solid bonus points for having all the curTailed words be valid entries without the T. All those points and more lost for all the other Ts in the grid ... thirteen (not counting TOAT which is theme-related).
Brutally hard NW corner.
Nice write up, as usual. The saving grace of this puzzle was that because I came up empty on my first pass, I got to the bottom and the revealer quick. That helped, but it remained tough to get on its wavelength. Was Tess in more than one episode of the Last of Us?
ReplyDeleteBut did we all know that the 'T' in 'To a T' likely derives from the word 'tittle' as in 'every jot and tittle', implying extreme accuracy? I didn't, until now.
ReplyDeleteNope. I always assumed it was referring to a T-Square to get a very precise measure/cut. I'll defend ADP, it's been on every paycheck I received as long as I can remeber and it is a useful published source of unemployment data/trends
DeleteJust like everyone else, finished in the NW. Tried MADONNA for a bit at 16A, quickly realized that wasn’t right but got my mind stuck on a specific person’s name rather than a type of performer. Saw right away this would be a T-themed puzzle of some sort, and quickly saw that 6D and 7D wanted to be ATLAS(T) and TEASE(T), so then it was just working through the rest of the puzzle east to west and south to north. Tried VEINS then AORTI at 1A, finally landed on ATRIA which made 1D an easy if unwelcome APP. Which left me with a performer named PxxDIVA. Lightbulb moment, POPDIVA did her number, RIFFLING became RIPPLING, knocked off some PINEY gin (?) and done. Clever, challenging and worth the effort.
ReplyDeleteRex, since you seem unsure, 5D is “Am I Not?
ReplyDeleteI quite liked this one. My way into the theme was our pair of EGOT winners, who I was pretty sure were EGOT winners but with only three letters I was like, “Did they not have Grammys, and it’s something stupid like EOT? Maybe EGO because that’s a word - no, they definitely have Tonys.” Then with script next door, I tried to do rebuses, but APOLOGY made it clear the Ts didn’t belong. Then I found the T below.
I also had trouble with the SW and I even did play Last of Us, which Tess is in, but the only character I could remember besides Joel was Ellie, who did not fit.
Also, NO SEE UM? Ew.
He’s not unsure about AM I NOT? How could he be? AM I NOT? is listed among the theme answers.
DeleteI think I first learned the word atrium/ATRIA in high school biology -- maybe even junior high. Years later I learned that an atrium was an open-air space in the middle of a Roman villa. But only today did I notice the connection. Nevertheless, after my first entry, APP, I wanted 1-A to be AortAs or AortAe. Then I noticed that it ran into that big T and thought it must be a six-letter word ending with T, but couldn't think of one. (And I'm pretty sure the aorta takes blood away from the heart, rather than supplying it.) So I went on; sort of got the trick with OPEN SEAT, and eventually noticed that only down answers added the T at the end, so when I worked my way down to the revealer, I kind of had it.
ReplyDeleteI liked the concept, enjoyed working it out, and really enjoyed the tricky clues. I do think it would be better if the only answers, or at least the only down answers ending in T were part of the theme. But probably there are so many constraints that SECRET, PAT, and TYRANT couldn't be anything else.
There aren't very many proper names in this puzzle, but the only one I knew was ISAAC. Gotta look for that Moshfegh novel.
I think today is the TENTH day without Star Wars!
ReplyDeleteuntil that. geez
DeleteHad the exact opposite experience with this puzzle. I got on the wavelength quickly and whooooshed. Got the gimmick coming out of the NW. I was delighted to see that all the T-ending answers were, as Rex said, not gibberish. Some of them make very cool transformations, like DAYSPAS(t) and OPENSEA(t).
ReplyDeleteThanks, Rafa and Sala! Super neat concept and lovely execution.
It was a tough grind, but I enjoyed it a lot, and the theme was really well done. The NW was the last to fall. I’m glad the theme answers made sense without the T, because I really wanted 5D to be AM I hO(T) and I’m not sure how long I would have clung to that. “Finished” with AortA at 1A, but didn’t think that was the plural form needed and obviously didn’t get the happy music so figured it out.
ReplyDeleteI got greedy and plunged into the solve rather than scanning the empty grid for hints about what the puzzle was about. As a result, it took me longer to crack the riddle. That turned out to be a good thing.
ReplyDeleteTo play on a well-used expression, I couldn’t see the gimmick for the tees! No-knows and tricky cluing compounded my confusion.
The longer my bafflement, the higher the tension, so that when the curtain finally fell, the aha was huge – epic! – bolstered by a thrilling whoosh to the finish.
That was aha number one. Number two came when I saw that the theme answers all were genuine words without the black-square Ts – there my jaw dropped due to the skill and talent behind the construction.
Dessert was a lovely serendipity -- that there's a down DOWN and an up UP.
A worducken! -- An aha bogo amidst a brain pleaser housed in a top-notch build. Result? A strong Puzzle of the Year Thursday candidate. This was royally good. Thank you, Sala and Rafael!
7:42 AM
I've put it on my POY list too, Lewis.
DeleteThe flavoring in Gin is juniper, so "Piney" is a reach, at best.
ReplyDeleteI make a few notes while solving and my first one last night was "PINEY gin??". You're right, Anon 7:51, the flavour is juniper, not pine. They are different. I am not a chemist or a distiller, but I have been a bartender so I know a bit about gin. Some of that knowledge might even be correct. When I first got a bar job - over 50 years ago - I was tutored by a guy who just rambled on about every liquor on the shelf. I'm pretty sure he told me that, in order to legally be called gin, it must be made with juniper berries. These are the cones of the evergreen juniper plant and they contain an aromatic oil that can be extracted by alcohol. Voila! Gin! Feel free to add more herbs and spices, but keep the juniper, which might hint at pine but doesn't really taste like it.
DeleteHow do I know they taste different? I keep a bottle of juniper berries in my spice cupboard and use them for flavouring sauces, marinades, and pickling solutions. I have tasted a few. You really shouldn’t cook with things you haven’t tasted, so I have popped a few in my mouth and just let them sit there (they are about the size of small corn kernels). Hmmm, very mild. I have then crushed them with my molars and the flavour increases significantly. So now I throw a bunch out on a board and gently crack them with the side of a large French knife and toss them into sauces.
I have also included pine needles in sauces, after having bruised them with a rolling pin. Much tarter and kind of one-dimensional compared to the juniper berries.
So now you know. Or do you? Hie thee to the spice market.
(Oh, god, this turned out to be a very long comment about gin & juniper and I haven’t even got to how I feel about the puzzle. Maybe a separate post.)
Those two smell similar to me and both are evergreens. Also how else would one describe the smell of juniper?
DeleteThere are two errors in the cluing of my print edition. 51a is clued as Home Security co. and 60a is clued as Big Payroll service co. Did not make the SW easy.
ReplyDeleteThat confused me too! Thank you for mentioning.
DeleteI saw the T gimmick right away. It took a while to see how the answers would work. It ended up being a terrific puzzle.ππππ
ReplyDeleteI saw that the answers weren’t making any sense. Tried to figure out the gimmick - no luck. I had trouble parsing together the reveal and basically became stuck. Fortunately I was able to bail early on this one - not unusual for a Thursday to beat me up, so I cut my losses and moved on.
ReplyDeleteI’m on a bit of a losing streak with Rafa’s grids lately (here and elsewhere). This one wasn’t particularly evil in any way, it’s just that I couldn’t discern the theme, so it pretty much became a binary choice - either cheat or go home. I packed my bags and left.
Very tough day for me. After reading Rex's comments , I am disappointed that I didn't fare better. Lastly, I thought 45D was a bit of a stretch.
Delete4.5 stars for me. What a fantastic theme, revealer and execution. I’m very familiar with “down to a T” so it landed perfectly for me. Agree re: the ugliness in the SW but that clue on Leisure saved it. I got the theme at the exact same place as OFL.
ReplyDeleteI do wish the 5-wide black square block at the top wasn’t an [unused] T. I was a bit confused there expecting it to somehow be part of the puzzle. Still, loved this puzzle and, yes, a bit of crunch on Thursday was very welcome.
Medium-Hard or Hard. It was fun seeing the gimmick. I forget when it kicked in finally, but the obtuse mind can sometimes do strange things, like thinking that recognition of EGO as three out of four of EGOT could be a thing, and forgetting that today is Thursday. The weight of the weirdness AT LAST became too much to bear (maybe it was AT LAST where the dam broke). DOWN TO A T isn't instantly familiar to me, but it has a ring of plausibility, and it's perfect for the revealer. Perfect, TO A T.
ReplyDeleteSlow-ups: Bias before BENT, deDuCT before INDICT, Ash before ARI, DIVEsT before DIVERT. That last one got me good. It made it seem as though "divest" was going to cross _ _ _ _ UsE, and I kept thinking "it's no use" would have been very appropriate for the clue ("This isn't working!") except that it's too long to fit. This isn't working -- I GOTTA say, you got that right!
NO SEE UM lives on in my memory as a "no way!" or "no you didn't!" moment. I first encountered it while leafing through one of the volumes of the World Book Encyclopedia -- I was probably about 11 years old, and read them for fun -- and thought the writer of some article on flying insects had gotten something past an editor, a crude joke, because even to young me then, it sounded like a racist joke, this imitation of American Indian broken English, and I thought "no, that can't be". Oh, it can be all right. That's exactly the derivation. From the early 1800s.
Anyway, back to the puzzle. There are few if any fault lines (so no APOLOGY needed!) for this well-crafted puzzle, and I thank Rafa and Sala for the enjoyable workout.
Interesting on NOSEEUM. Yikes.
DeleteThe most challenging Thursday I've done in YEARS. I couldn't convince myself that ATRIA was right and found zero other purchase in the NW. I got the theme quickly but it didn't help much. Unsurprisingly, OTTESSA needed every single crossing.
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ReplyDeleteMedium-Challenging. I got the idea of the theme but some of the cluing led me astray. Impressive that all the downs that end in black-square T's are also valid words without the T.
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Overwrites:
Besides RIPPLING, a 3D lake on a breezy day is RelaxING.
@Rex AM I ok before AM I NO[T]/AMINO at 5D
My 29A ilk was a sort before it was a KIND.
At 51A, I confused security company ADt with payroll provider ADP
WOEs:
2D mathematician Terrence TAO
Novelist OTTESSA Moshfegh at 14A
Director ARI Aster at 25A
The portmanteau GAYMER at 45D (but easy to infer)
TESS from The Last of Us at 55A
I had pianist instead of pop diva amd aorti instead of atria and that messed me all up. finished the rest of the puzzle, got the theme, then had to rip out the whole NW corner and try again. fun puzzle.
ReplyDeletecaught on to the theme relatively quickly...but didn't see the "T" formations in the puzzle until coming here. π€ͺ
ReplyDeletePINEY is more for Retsina than gin. Just sayin'.
ReplyDeleteMy solving experience yet again very eerily matches that of our fearless leader. Who says there is no such thing as cosmic connection!
Speaking of "cosmic connection" I do NYT's Wordle, Connections, and Strands, the latter of which today was "this isn't working" ala 49A, answers such as "hobby" and "pastime". Don't recall if "leisure was an answer.
DeleteIt was not.
DeleteGood catch on the retsina. I like it. My wife really doesn't. We lived in Greece years ago and whenever we ate a small taverna with just beer and retsina on the menu (she doesn't like beer either) she would order a glass of retsina and a bottle (or glass) of soda water and dilute it approximately 50-50.
DeleteIn today's economy, workers do one GIGABIT, then do another.
ReplyDeleteIs a lesbian with a fish tail a GAYMERmaid?
A LEISURE smells fresh when you first put it around your neck.
OTTESSA is an asset to those who look in mirrors.
I too scratched my head over PINEY gins. I supposed that something akin to bathtub gin might be PINEY, but googling it revealed many sites extolling the PINEY-ness of various gins. Here's the AI take:
"Piney" gins are characterized by a dominant juniper, spruce, or pine needle flavor profile, often described as tasting like an evergreen forest. Top recommendations for this style include St. George Terroir Gin, Junipero, Rogue Spruce Gin, and Forij Slacktide. These gins are ideal for classic gin and tonics or savory cocktails.
I thought this was easier than @Rex seems to have, but it was definitely a Thursday that thurses. Really a wonderful puzzle. Thank you to our ESTEEMED constructors, Rafael Musa and Sala Wanetick.
Lovin’ the OTTESSA quip egs!!
DeleteA small distillery in Lake Placid, NY produces a "Blue Line Gin," which features botanicals from the local white pine, as well as the standard juniper ( and others). It has a distinctly "piney" flavor, admittedly not a typical gin flavor.
DeleteAlthough it was pretty hard to miss those T’s, the theme took some time to grasp. But for me, the difficulty was is the trivia and unfamiliar names. OTTESSA, ADP, ARI Aster, TAO, a rock on Venus, Tzatziki, The Last of Us, Fortnite. Struggling with unknowns can be fun, but today it was just a struggle. Still, a good Thursday-level trick and solid puzzle. At least it wasn’t too easy.
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DeleteStill laughing from last night... I too had to look up what cannoli would be in Spanish. π€£
@Gary: It’s not polite to laugh at the linguistically challenged. π But that does make me feel better. π
DeleteThis puzzle left me cold. First of all, the large "T" at the top plays no role in any answer. Second, some of the cluing was dreadful - POPDIVA, PINEY, SCRIBES - and, at least in my view, not compensated for by the few spots of genuine cleverness. I've come to expect an unenjoyable solving experience when I see Musa or Ezersky or (sadly, but more common lately, Agard) among the constructor names, but I still hold out hope, perhaps vainly, that going forward they'll rely less on these contrivances. For today, though, I'll be reaching for the PAINMEDs - a root canal would have been more fun.
ReplyDeleteThank goodness I knew OTTESSA - that was the first string of letters I could write in confidently, amidst all of those Ts that were surely up to some trickery. OTTESSA's A gave me PAS, leading to ATE UP, followed by AT LAS and TEASE, and I saw what was up - or Down. Me, too, for having to face an empty NW at the end. With FALCONS in place, I guessed INDIC and EVEN...and then the crucial PINEY, giving me RIPPLING and the rest. Whew - was glad to finish!
ReplyDeletewas challenging- I think I looked up OTTESSA. But the real pain for me was I entered all the "T" answer as rebuses. So I spent a good amount of time looking for an error that wasn't really there. Then it dawned on me to try it without the rebuses... and it worked. Major pain in the butt and not a pleasurable crossword experience at all.
ReplyDeleteI did the same thing, only because Thursday is usually REBUS day.
DeleteIf you google “gin flavor profile” the first thing you get is “piney from juniper berries.”
ReplyDeleteFrom PJ Clarke’s website: “ Most gins – especially classic London Dry – lead with juniper berries, the “piney” backbone. From there, flavor branches out: coriander, citrus peel, licorice root, orris, cardamom… you get the idea.”
I wonder if "down to a t" is a somewhat regional colloquialism. I see that some commenters (including myself) found it to be very familiar, a phase common in speech, while others (including Rex) found it strange. I'm on the West Coast. Rex is a New Yorker. I'd be interested in knowing who found the phrase common, and where they reside. Anyone?
ReplyDeleteI don’t know if it’s regional or generational. Btw…I think Rex grew up on West coast. I’m from the Midwest and I’ve heard it. Seems like MAYBE I usually would hear something like “that was done to a T” but DOWN seems right also.
DeleteNot a familiar phrase. Have lived in New York, Maryland, Virginia, Illinois and London.
DeleteVery familiar.
DeleteVery familiar, Upstate NY, NH.
DeleteFrom Ohio. "To a T" is very familiar, with "Down" not so much.
DeleteWow. After a long stint of me finishing a puzzle near PB or quite a bit faster than average, here comes a Thursday puzzle I did NOT think I would finish! I got the missing T being provided going down to the black Ts with BRAt like Rex, but this didn’t mean the puzzle wasn’t challenging. (For me) Like many others, I found myself going back to the NW corner and having not heard of Terence TAO and having a “block” on the stupid renaming of Twitter…and I had felt quite sure that a “run” might be associated with a raPDIVA…anyway at some point POPDIVA finally popped into my head. I appreciated the challenge.
ReplyDeleteI rarely drink gin unless I’m in a group that likes gin and tonic but I have ALWAYS heard people discuss a brand’s degree of pineiness (pininess?). After seeing Rex and some comments on it…apparently juniper has a-pinene so I figure the amount of juniper determines the “piney.”
Thanks Rafa and Sala for a fine Thursday challenge!
The print version contained an error. 51A's proper clue (Big payroll service co.) was printed as 60A, while 51A got "Home security co." The latter is a great clue for ADT, but incorrect for ADP. (Funnily enough, Google shows that there is a payroll company called ETAS, though.)
ReplyDeleteHelp me out here. The answers all stand alone without the (T). But what is INDIC?
ReplyDeleteThere’s this thing called Google it’s awesome https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Indic
DeleteAnd before Google there were dictionaries.
DeleteIndic:India :: French:France (<keystrokes than @Anon 10:12's snark)
DeleteChallenging indeed. For the list of names that were unfamiliar, see previous comments. The names did include two mentions of my granddaughter's name, TESSA, so there's that.
ReplyDeleteI saw the missing T almost right away with the PBS/ISAAC/BRAT intersection. What I did not see were all those giant T's staring me in the face. I solve on paper so my solution was to draw a line horizontally through the squares that needed a T, put the letter from the across answer in the top half and the T in the bottom, which I thought was ingenious but instead turned out to be totally unnecessary. I mean, really.
The NOSEEUMs will be out shortly. I wondered how widespread this fun word is but no complaints so I guess it's pretty common. NON before PAS and nice to see BONITO. I like gin about as much as Pinesol so PINEY made sense to me. And it took me forever to parse LEISURE, even though I had everything but the L. Kept trying to make it into three words. That kind of morning.
Super elegant feat of construction, RM and SW. It Really Made a Super Workout for mem and thanks for all the fun.
No hay quien me detenga.
ReplyDeleteThat's a good puzzle. Took way longer than I wished to figure out the joke, but afterward it finished easily. It was a nice brain workout.
Gunk lite with enough juvenalia to make the slush pile editor eager.
Every single cross for OTTESSA. Looked her up. Lots of book awards. Sales lagging behind Harry Potter just a skosh.
❤️ NOSEEUM.
π© PAIN MED. POP DIVA. PINEY.
People: 7
Places: 0
Products: 4
Partials: 6
Foreignisms: 2
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Gary's Grid Gunk Gauge: 19 of 75 (25%)
Funny Factor: 3 π
Tee-Hee: BRA. GAYMER. ASS.
Uniclues:
1 What I give from the La-Z-Boy rather than doing my honeydews.
2 Pre-planning your Truth Social post.
3 I'm just saying these words are in the same line in the puzzle.
4 Where to find fabulous digital sailors.
5 One who is overly proud of not using Google maps.
6 Disappointing revelation in a crossword constructors head.
1 LEISURE APOLOGY
2 APP FAKE SLATED
3 ASS DIVER EVENT (~)
4 GAYMER OPEN SEA (~)
5 ATLAS EGO
6 I GOTTA USE "UM NO." (~)
My Fascinating Crossword Uniclue Keepsake from Last Year: Delivery news likely to cause a panic at the tiki bar. OKAY, RUM IS LATE.
¯\_(γ)_/¯
saw the theme pretty quickly but it wasn't immediately clear on my first downs-only pass whether the Ts also started some words. the presence of overt Ts in the answers diminished the puzzle some as did the doubling of PAS(T) and DAYSPAS(T). thursday worthy, sure. challenging, no. enjoyable, not so much. too much AMINO(T) UMNO, IGOTTA that no one says (at least not in the clued ways) and then the true clunker of 45D which only reinforces that "portmanteau" in a clue portends poor fill.
ReplyDeleteCould not get a decent start on this one. Noticed the “T”s right away but they made no sense and none of the likely down answers seemed to fit. Reluctantly had to look up ATRIA and OTTESSA, and after that the gimmick was clear and everything sorta fell into place. Great revealer—pulled everything together!
ReplyDeleteAs already noted, there were two clue errors in the print edition that soured what was otherwise fun for me. Clueing 51A as “Home security co.” pointed to ADT, not ADP, while the payroll clue for ADP got printed for 60A. Clearly someone in the writing/editing process confused the two? Didn’t think “rit saw” was a thing, though, so got suspicious.
ReplyDeleteWhat was the online clue for 60A?
Delete@James 1:32 pm, the clue for 60A was "Some delivery data, in brief".
DeleteMedium. I caught the “T” trick fairly early which meant I needed to pay closer attention to the clues than I usually do to make sense of what was going on.
ReplyDeleteNo costly erasures but I did not know OTTESSA or her sister TESS. The former made the NE tougher because it took me a while to see TAROT.
Cute/clever/tricky and fun, liked it.
Knowing TAO saved me precious nanoseconds in the NW.
DeleteThought Rex would give four stars to this one; particularly after noticing that all fifteen theme answers were valid words sans T. Remarkable. Great Thursday puzzle.
ReplyDeleteThe only one we questioned was INDIC; it had to be a word (right?) and "awesome Google" confirmed it. TIL...
Loved GAYMER as clued; hated APP as clued (as Rex noted).
48D (TYRANT) could have been clued as "Former Hungarian strongman Orban, who was humiliatingly ousted in a landslide election, after being publicly supported by US VP Vance, and held up as the political darling and prototypical authoritarian leader by American conservatives, e.g." But that clue was probably too long. I get it.
After fleeing the NW for the NE, I picked up the theme almost immediately due to TARO[T] and AT LAS[T]. OTTESSA was slow to fill in but with the theme in place, the rest of the grid came together nicely except for the far south central.
ReplyDelete"It's a SEC___" along with a journalist, a current-day intensifying suffix, a meandering kealoa of RO__ and a gamer portmanteau (which, GAYMER, is pretty good) was enough to hold me up the longest of anything today.
It wasn't until after I finished and was admiring the grid that I realized that the missing T's didn't leave gibberish - all the theme answers were real words without their T's. Very nice!
Thanks, Rafael and Sala!
NW corner completely unfair and ridiculously badly prepared.
ReplyDeleteI’d be curious to see what you think of Moshfegh’s novels once you read one. I really admire her willingness to write awful characters but, man, I don’t find them enjoyable to read.
ReplyDeleteI was sure Rex would blast the puzzle for including T’s elsewhere. Why not, Rex???
ReplyDeleteI hope some at NYT gets there bum smacked for the 51A typo in the print version
ReplyDeleteIMHO, the difficulty of the NW was a little out of sync with the rest of the puzzle. Like who the f*** knows the name of any recipient of the Field Medal prize (other than fellow mathematicians)? Proper names of people that practically no one has ever heard of are not OK.
ReplyDeleteOrdinarily I'd agree with you -- if it were just about any other Fields Medalist than Tao. But I think Tao may have broken into a kind of rock star status (through YouTube, etc.) whereby lots and lots of non-mathematicians have seen him talk and may recognize the name. For example, Lex Fridman (a pal of Joe Rogan) had a bunch of interviews of him.
DeleteI don't have any statistics for this. But I figure Tao is by now the Fields Medalist with the most recognized name. And he's been in the NYTXW a nontrivial number of times.
Figured out the "T" thing fairly quickly and then breezed through somewhat pain free until the NW corner. And then oh boy. Twice the amount of time in that corner alone. Had "veins" for 1 across first, and then nothing until I figured it was probably DAYS PAST. And still nothing until I guessed at EVENT and then figured it could be FALCONS which gave me RIPPLING which finally broke things open. A fun grind. 23:48
ReplyDeletePretty, pretty, pretty good (actually Very Good). Medium with a tough NW. Had TAu for TAO, which left me looking at _UPDIVA. CUP DIVA?
ReplyDeleteLearned the origin of BONITO: "pretty" or "good" (diminutive of bueno, from Latin bonus). I thought it was Japanese, since BONITO flakes are a common ingredient in Japan.
OTTESSA appeared in the 7/23/23 NYT, which I have no recollection of seeing. (Come on, brain!) Coincidentally, Rafa guest posted on the blog that day:
https://rexwordpuzzle.blogspot.com/2023/07/some-roofing-material-sun-7-23-2023-us.html
Clever theme, lotta fun. Thanks Rafa and Sala!
I have a vague memory of PG Wodehouse saying "To a T" meant "To a turn" as in meat grilled on a spit being perfect.
ReplyDeleteHad fun with this - nice to have to battle once in a while.
funny thing about that cluing error on 51A and 60A. it also appears if you print the "newspaper version" from the website which is what i do when my blue bag doesnt appear in my driveway, but if you print the regular version it is corrected. i guess they wanted to be sure the newspaper version actually was the printed newspaper version. thus i had ADT until reading the down clue and that P was my last entry. never heard of the home security company ETAS but i just went with it.
ReplyDeleteI don't understand why Rex didn't mention ETAS in his description of the ugly SW.
ReplyDeleteTwo random initialisms in one corner, but he only dislikes the 3-letter variety?
Otherwise, I found this puzzle as obnoxious as most Thursday games posing as crossword puzzles.
I'm with the haters today. 3-1/2 stars? Low bar today.
ReplyDeleteIf you did the puzzle in a newspaper, clues 51 and 60 across were printed incorrectly. Digital version was correct. Never had that happen before. LVD
ReplyDeleteI don't know why I didn't notice all the big Ts in the grid. I eventually got the trick but still didn't see them. And then I hit the revealer (which I had as DONE / TO A T for ages... DOWN just sounds wrong) and it was a real aha! moment. Nice tricky Thursday.
ReplyDeleteI had the same Unknown Names as many of you. Again a bunch of short ones: TAO ARI ADP TESS, and the long OTTESSA. And GAYMER is new to me.
I took five years of French in high school, but for 10 down "Negation word in French" all I could think of for ages was NON. Faux PAS! (oops that's a different PAS.)
Even as a Last of Us fan (game and show), TESS was a tough pull. She's a side character who only appears in the beginning of the story.
ReplyDeleteHad AM I HOT for way too long and couldn’t imagine it was anything else….once I got that everything else in that corner quickly fell into place…. Yeah I didn’t like PINEY either!
ReplyDeleteGin is often described as tasting of juniper (because of the juniper berries!), but juniper is not a pine tree. I watched The Last of Us, and Tess is a very minor character at best, so that was a toughie. I deduced the "T" theme very quickly, but there were a few proper nouns in key places that made this very tough for me. And I don't mind a proper noun, but if it's the Fields Award recipient from circa 2006, then yeah, I'm scratching my head. I was happy to know what the Fields Award was for, but don't give me the winner from 20 years ago, please!
ReplyDeleteOnce I had P____VA at 16A, I was sure it must be PAVLOVA. I knew Anna Pavlova was a famous ballerina, and although I know next to nothing about ballet, I figured it was conceivable that a ballerina could be famous for her runs. That (and the egregious PINEY) threw me off to the point where I couldn’t finish the northwest corner.
ReplyDeleteNow I've failed on a Wednesday and a Thursday this year. The clue for pop diva may be the single worst I have ever seen in the NYT.
ReplyDeleteExcellent Thursday puzzle which I found relatively easy. I got the Ts early from BRAt. Names were tricky though - TAO was TAu for a while, and never heard of OTTESSA. I think I may finally learn that RIPSAW - I wanted RIb.
ReplyDeleteClever fun, thank you