Relative difficulty: Medium-Challenging
Word of the Day: JINK (25D: Nimble, zigzagging maneuver) —
1: a quick evasive turn : slip2
Besides the fact that jink first appears in Scottish English, the exact origins of this shifty little word are unknown. What can be said with certainty is that the word has always expressed a quick or unexpected motion. For instance, in two poems from 1785, Robert Burns uses jink as a verb to indicate both the quick motion of a fiddler's elbow and the sudden disappearance of a cheat around a corner. In the 20th century, the verb caught on with air force pilots and rugby players, who began using it to describe their elusive maneuvers to dodge opponents and enemies. Jink can also be used as a noun meaning "a quick evasive turn" or, in its plural form, "pranks." The latter use was likely influenced by the term high jinks, which originally referred in the late 17th century to a Scottish drinking game and later came to refer to horseplay. (merriam-webster.com)
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If the long answers in the corners aren't particularly exciting, they are remarkably clean, I'll give them that. There's something to be said for that. Well, a space mission with an RRN (Random Roman Numeral) isn't that great, but the rest are all fine. No tortured phrases, no niche slang. The NW corner is probably the strongest of the lot, with a reasonably clever "?" clue on BABY SHOWER (1A: Coming out party?) over two rock-solid colloquialisms ("ANYONE HOME?," SINK OR SWIM). Outside of trivia ignorance, my trouble today came from either clue vagueness, clue badness, or perilous parsing adventures. Because I didn't have the "J" from JINK (ugh), I absolutely could not see JANE GREY. I should've remembered that she was monarch for a few days—I remember coming across and mentioning that fact on the blog just last years—but I didn't. Not only did I know have the "J" (JINK), I didn't have the "G" ("GLORY," bah!), and so both initials just weren't there for me. When I saw it ended in "Y," my immediate feeling wasn't "Oh, it's JANE GREY!" Instead, it was, "well, SAYS must be wrong—the monarch must end in a Roman numeral." So I pulled SAYS. Idiocy. I knew what 43A: Leading character on social media? was getting at instantly, but when AT SIGN wouldn't fit, I just ... blanked. I know that the answer should be AT SIGN because that is how it has appeared in the NYTXW ten times now (7 in singular, 3 in plural). Whereas this is just the second AT SYMBOL. Y'all should decide if it's a sign or a symbol and stick to it. Please.
No idea what FOREX is (51A: Market for currencies, informally). Sounds like a condom brand (it's actually short for "Foreign Exchange Market"). Thought FAUX was FAKE (39D: Like leatherette). Could not have known at that point that FAKE was already in play (with FAKE PLANTS). Honestly spent a few seconds wondering what a CART RAILER was before I mentally attached the "T" to "RAILER" to get TRAILER, ugh. Thought the Welsh "Ian" was EWAN (which looks a lot like EVAN, and looks kinda Welsh, frankly, but is actually a Scottish "Owen"). Cluing FLOTUS as [White House partner, for short] is ridiculous, since no one calls him "White House." FLOTUS's "partner" is POTUS. Like ... by definition. Those are the equivalents. I guess the idea is supposed to be "Partner (of the President) who resides in the White House." So not "partner of" but "partner in." Really awful, however you slice it. I was slow in the NE too, but mostly for good old-fashioned clue ambiguity. WAGES was vague/hard. WRAP was vague/hard (11A: Finish (up)). GAS CAN was vague/hard (24A: Trunk item). The "PET" part of PET SNAKES was not at all expected (14D: Some terrarium denizens). This was all frustrating, but it's the kind of frustrating I can live with. Friday-level frustrating. It's fine. I would love to give a thumbs-up to "LET'S ROCK" for originality and ... just ... colloquial vim, I guess, but I hate that expression. Sounds corny. I actually like "LET'S ROLL" a lot better. Anyway, sometimes an answer just nails-on-chalkboards you and there's no accounting for it. Not an objective fault of the puzzle. Just ... incompatibility.
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- 19A: Classic 1926 poem associated with the Harlem Renaissance ("I, TOO") — longtime solvers will fill this in automatically. It has crosswordese status, for sure. I can imagine novice solvers being stumped by this one, especially crossing (as it does) two other proper nouns (ANITA, YOKO), as well as the startlingly hard-(for me)-to-parse BY NOW (3D: Already). Really really wanted one word there.
- 21A: Creatures that can turn into humans on land, in Scottish folklore (SEALS) — real Scottish puzzle today. Scotland in the EVAN clue. JINK is a "word" favored by Burns that first appears in Scottish English, and now ... Scottish wereseals. I have some vague memory of this bit of folklore from having watched John Sayles's The Secret of Roan Inish (1994). Yes, here we go: "It is centered on the Irish and Orcadian folklores of selkies—seals that can shed their skins to become human" (wikipedia). SELKIES would be a good grid word. Zero NYTXW appearances to date.
- 38A: Place for trading stories? (BOOK FAIR) — sigh, you don't "trade" stories at a BOOK FAIR. You do "trade" in stories, by selling them. Is that what was meant? Awkward.
- 54A: Hand count? (FIVE) — because we all have five hands. Science. Actually, you can plausibly interpret this clue two ways. First—and probably most likely—a single hand allows you to count to FIVE (five digits on each hand, barring table saw injuries). The second interpretation, which I only thought of just now, is that a typical poker "hand" has FIVE cards in it. So your "Hand count" would be FIVE—five cards in your hand. Did anyone read the clue as poker-related? I don't think it's the intended meaning, but it "works."
- 31D: Secret offering? (DEODORANT) — Secret is a brand. A brand of DEODORANT.
- 50D: Makes do for a while? (PERMS) — oof, real awkward. Makes (a hair)do (that lasts) for a while.
- 16A: Dialect featured in the literature of Alice Walker and Toni Morrison (AAVE) — African-American Vernacular English. It's been in the puzzle a few times now.
- 54D: Goal-oriented global org.? (FIFA) — aren't these the corrupt assholes who gave White House (which is apparently what we're calling him now) a completely made-up "Peace Prize"? Yep, the president of FIFA is apparently a close ally of White House. Meanwhile, White House continues to attack citizens of his own country with untrained incompetent sadistic goons who aren't fit for any other kind of employment. This week—flashbangs and tear gas thrown into a van filled with six children, one of whom required CPR. Giving White House a "peace prize" ... that really out-Orwells Orwell (you know, the guy who wrote ANIMAL FARM (59A: Novel whence the line "four legs good, two legs bad"))
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Yeah, this one was really hard. First DNF in a long long time, esp on a Friday. Got my gender bias going.... had "HIS" excellency, had "FLOTUS". Assuming that the men are in charge all the time. I even double checked and said "Yep, it was a male constructor." But then, when I had _ANEGREY, mentally ran the alphabet for that square, and didn't even try the J.... thought of DANE? ZANE? (zANE GREY is somebody, of course, so that messed me up for a long time. JINK didn't seem like it would be a thing.). The other spot that messed me up was that I said "I wonder if ERIK ends in K or c???? But then I confidently put in succulANTS for "green all year long" (even though now as I type it, I realize that's misspelled--it would be -eNTS on the end, and I knew FIFA already). Then when I figured out that F, I figured it must be FAcEPLANTS--Green people might faceplant, right???? Anyhoo.... oh well. googled the shortest reigning English monarch and.... got the music. Challenging from this rater, that's for sure.
ReplyDeleteI laughed when I saw your comments. I too had face plants rather than fake plants trying to decide if it was Erik or Eric had never heard of jink, did not know glory and didn't think book fair was correct. Like Rex, I initially thought it was Ewan rather than Evan which didn't work out numerically. It took a while to get car trailer.
DeleteLoved the herding cats and
sink or swim.
Overall, I did enjoy the puzzle and appreciated that I had to work at it.
Hello, team FAcEPLANTS! It almost made sense to me, but not quite enough. I even paused entering ERIc because I was like 50/50 about his being an ERIK. But by the time I got to FAcEPLANTS, I had forgotten my uncertainty on the C. Oh well. Gave me a chuckle.
DeleteI really genuinely appreciate you flagging the male bias in this puzzle. It’s pretty flagrant here. And additionally, though I’m sure there’s someone somewhere who has actually given birth who would find “coming-out party” a cute way to refer to BABYSHOWER (anyone know what the hyphen is for here?), to me, having given birth, and in this time and country in which pregnancy and giving birth is increasingly dangerous, I couldn’t bring myself to smile. The coming out (of the body) part was scary to me and I’m lucky to have come through it twice.
DeleteJink is not a thing but I’ll allow it, as the rest of the puzzle is as fine and, these days, rare example of a Friday grid as I can recall in the last few years. More please.
ReplyDeleteRex had mostly bad things to say about this puzzle, but I found it reasonable. No cheats, and one alphabet run for the HERDINGCATS/ATSYMBOL cross. As a long-time cat owner I should have picked that up phrase more quickly. It was good to see a different clue for YOKO.
ReplyDeleteOne history note: JANEGREY is usually identified as "Lady Jane Grey."
Isn't it funny how we each have different solving experiences? I wonder sometimes if it's just the day--like would I have gotten this on another day? Or is it a matter of wheelhouses? Congrats on completing this one, I found it challenging.
DeleteYeah the low star count surprised me a bit, but maybe having both FLOTUS (as in this one) and contemptible FIFA in the same puzzle put him over the edge; I'm ok with that.
DeleteIt was in my wheelhouse too outside of the roman numeral which tripped me up.
Deletealso I agree with Rex... 50D: Makes do for a while? (PERMS) is the cringiest clue of all time. My dad wouldn't even make this joke.
@Rick, I think it can be how your brain is whirring on any particular day AND wheelhouse AND whether you are on the same “wavelength” with the constructor’s answers/clues. To me, all of that is what makes doing crossword fun!
DeleteBeezer.
DeleteGood point.
Example. Bob Mills gave the full historical name Lady Jane Grey, which I knew so which part was in the puzzle? Unraveling that delayed things If I only knew JANE GREY it would have been faster! I did that several times to myself on this puzzle. (Crossed wires led me to put in evITA when I know the answer is ANITA , a character in West Side Story More delay). it ended up on the hard side for.
Geesh. I struggled and struggled in the NE to finish. I had GI SCAN as “Trunk item” and thought that was surely right. I was so sure, I couldn’t bring myself to admit that SAYS was right and spent several minutes ripping out SIYS and looking for a mistake in that instead!
ReplyDeleteOccam’s razor tells me I will never see GI SCAN in the NYT crossword.
DeleteGI as in gastro-intestinal? That's in the trunk area all right, and it's certainly creative as misinterpretations go.
DeleteI would gladly JINK around Occam any day to see GI SCAN clued as a “trunk item” - made me chuckle and reminds me of the very tough Fridays and Saturdays of my young solving days. Also is a fabulous demonstration of how our brains operate so very differently.
DeleteI understand where you're coming from, but I'll take uninspired difficulty over the childish easiness of yesterday's puzzle any day of the week! Well, maybe not on Monday, but you know what I mean.
ReplyDeleteHaha - thanks for the clarification Rex. I thought DEODORANT as a secret offering was because one might surreptitiously leave it on the desk of an overripe office colleague (and I thought that was clever).
ReplyDeleteAnd the Secret offering was yet another specific brand name showing up almost as a commercial. DEODORANT is a legitimate answer, I just loathe “commercials” appearing up in my daily crosswords!
DeleteRex wants his cake and all that - can’t have it both ways sometimes - this was a tough late week puzzle that was generally well filled. I agree that there is some flat stuff - that entire SW corner misses but the other three long stacks are solid - especially the NW.
ReplyDeleteIan Tyson
HERDING CATS x SINK OR SWIM is the highlight. I liked the play with BOOK FAIRS. LETS ROCK is a little fratty and AT SYMBOL is awkward.
Sufjan
Saw a PBS show on JANE GREY so that was a gimme. No clue on FOREX - learned SEALS. Read a story recently that explained how Cynthia Lennon walked in on him and YOKO in bed one day and left him that day - never made a big scene about it or went public with it.
Snowball in Hell
Enjoyable Friday morning solve.
Shawn Colvin
Thanks for the mention of the story of Cynthia Lennon walking in on John & Yoko. I googled it. Cynthia was a classy lady (unlike Yoko IMHO) & was taken too soon from Julian :(
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DeleteTotally a matter of opinion but I think people are much too hard on Yoko. I like what I have read about her. It is ridiculously common for marriages to break up like John’s. did and I think John bore most of the responsibility. He sought out Yoko. Etc etc. Cynthia is most definitely as you described her. She probably figured out that John was the problem.
BTW Change of pace for the YOKO clue but I had no idea until the K appeared. Yoko of course is the most well known in the West female Japanese given name so then it became much easier.
I had to laugh that I considered ZANEGREY for a while, thinking the author might have borrowed his pen name from an English king.
ReplyDeleteStandouts for me:
ReplyDelete• A new clue for YOKO, as in all Crosslandia's major outlets, it has always referred to Ms. Ono. A crossworthy clue as well. After reading about Yoko Ogawa, I’ve placed her on my want-to-read list.
• HERDING CATS! Hah! Incorrigibility, thy name is cat. It’s one of the reasons that every cat I’ve lived with has stolen my heart.
• A sky-high 18 longs, bringing fun and interest to the box.
• The NE corner, which stayed mostly white for me, even as I came back to it numerous times, and just before I uncle-d, an answer hit me. Then nada. Then again, just at breaking point, another answer. And again and again, a serious grind. How satisfying that was to fill in.
• PuzzPair©️: DUST, clued [Do some cleaning], and FAKE PLANTS. Is this not true?! Is this not true?!
Standout puzzle, Kyle, a splendid outing. Thank you!
For Rick Sacra 7:03: Thanks. I have problems with hip-hop language and most slang, but this puzzle was clued within my wheelhouse (pardon the slang).
ReplyDeleteHey All !
ReplyDeleteI had FAcEPLANTS in. Fits the clue ... except the "green" part, but the answer was too good that I overlooked that. FAKE, bah!
Started as a toughie, but gradually ceded to my excellent wit. (Har!) I believe my solve went NW, SE, SW, SE, with the middle section going in higgledy-piggledy. (Put That on a puz!) Turned out a RegFriPuz, time wise.
Regular 15x15 grid today, what happened? 😁
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Liked puz overall, just a Q and Z from the 'Gram. BY NOW, I TOO enjoy your BASIC AMUSing FriPuz. That's a WRAP.
Have a great Friday!
Seven F's - LETS ROCK!
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DarrinV
I guess there is a little bit of “be careful what you wish for” going on here today. In order to “amp up” the difficulty level, we end up with a lot of the usual suspects, such as an ordinary word like GLORY clued as a trivia question, junk like JINK, propers like JANE GREY and YOKO Ozawa, et c.
ReplyDeleteI understand that Rex is hoping for more (and it can be done - we had a very solid Friday or Saturday in the NYT not too long ago). However, they are going to be few and far between, due in no small part to the fact that Will Shortz so enthusiastically embraces grids with 30-40+ percent gunk on a daily basis.
The way I read Gary's Gunk Gauge is just that anything that fits into one the designated categories that *might* be "gunk" to *somebody* is thrown into the bucket, but that's kind of a wide swath. Thus my expectation is that the percentages, as measures of awfulness, rarely match whatever the awfulness is as experienced by any one individual. For example, names of famous people figure in every puzzle and they are as good a common denominator of knowledge as anything else, but all of them are considered "gunk" as defined by The Gauge.
DeleteI like the Gauge, and I think it's useful as a rigorous measure of *something*, but it also has obvious limitations if it's taken as evidence of something rotten in the state of the NYTXW. A somewhat more serious issue for me is how watered-down the cluing has (apparently) gotten. But not in today's puzzle!
Oh, I agree for sure. It does provide us with an additional useful data point, and fortunately he provides us with a breakdown. For me personally, there is a high correlation - if I see the People, Products and foreign stuff spike up, it’s usually a pretty good bet that the solving experience will be dragged down a notch or two (enjoyment-wise).
Deletetht.
DeleteI completely agree with you that
the gunk gauge is helpful but that not everything included is gunk.
I have referred to Z who sadly left the blog because he thought the NY Times was too conservative. He stopped doing their puzzles. His guage was solely various types of “propers”. People products and another P I forgot He said that when the percentage got above 30% or so ( he did not include foreign wirds or partials).people started to complain.
Another way of saying it , Southside Johnny thinks that a
any(most?) foreign words as he defines them are gunk. I on the other hand do not.
I found the puzzle tough, but fair. Most of the proper nouns were reasonably imputed. It helped that I'm a fan of Celtic FC (a Scottish soccer club) whose all-time greatest player was Jimmy Johnstone, aka "Jinky"!
ReplyDeleteAn excellent Saturday puzzle, a day early. I really enjoyed it, even if I had to finish by cleaning up a wrong Roman numeral guess (grr).
ReplyDeleteAnd God bless the Drop Kick Murphys. Thanks for that, Rex!
Am I the only one who always forgets if composer Satie is ERIC or ERIK? The former gave me FACEPLANTS for the "green year around" clue, and I just assumed it was a joke/pun I didn't understand. Oh well. Enjoyed the rest of this one slightly more than Rex.
ReplyDeleteTook me a long time today, & I don’t mind a struggle, but ITOO FOREX GLORY were all easy for me & things still didn’t “whoosh.” I think the phrase is “Anybody home,” & I know very well the Scottish shapeshifters is a Selkie, & those answers didn’t fit. And JADING, really? We just don’t use this as a verb. Also, “let’s rock” means more “let’s party” so LETSROLL should have been the answer, and that’s why I filled it in.
ReplyDeleteAgree on the meaning of LETSROCK. I had LETSRide and LETSROll before LETSROCK.
DeleteOriginally had scOTUS instead of FLOTUS, and thought, “hmm, the Supreme Court as a White House partner is a bit of a stretch,” then I realized it actually is quite true now.
ReplyDeleteAlso thought the Ian equivalent in Wales was EwAN, which gave me APOLLO wII. Video game in space?
Liked the challenge today.
Yeah, I know on the Ewan, but apparently Ian AND Ewan are Scottish-Gaelic. Um…maybe like John and Jon?
DeleteBeezer
DeleteI didn’t look it but a commenter said Ewan was a version of Owen. BTW I made the same mistake.
I wish l could have said "Queen Anne is dead" about Jane Grey but it took me a helluva long time to parse. Tough puzzle
ReplyDeleteThought answer to trading stories was top stair.
ReplyDeleteAnother Friday where I missed Robyn Weintraub, queen of crossworld!
ReplyDeleteNE/SW doubled my solve time. Jinks sucked. Forex boo. Had lots of stuff in that was right that I took out, lots of stuff wrong that I left in. Had to take it all out and try another entry point...
I miss her too. Dunno what's up at the NYT unless they just don't pay more than the New Yorker - ???
DeleteI'm annoyed that the constructor chose FAKE PLANTS over the massively more fun FACEPLANTS. Just need a different ERIC/K!
ReplyDeleteYeah, that seems like a weird choice
DeleteLiked this puzzle a lot. It provided consistent (if not tame) difficulty throughout; that is, no spots filled themselves like magic and others took forever. I liked the evenness.
ReplyDeleteThat said, I never, EVER want to start my puzzle by thinking about a baby coming out. Immediate ick from me, despite the clever wordplay. However, I liked the PERMS clue a lot. Must be the cryptic xwrd side of my brain getting tickled.
I laughed when I thought I had come up with the correct answer for "Makes do...." - another word starting with "P" and NSFW.
DeleteZipped through the NW and thought “UHOH” this one’s going to be bombed for being too easy. Then struggled painfully though the NE and SE, from having no idea who AAVE was to winding up with FAcEPLANTS not because it made a lot of sense but because it seemed like a fun answer about people with green faces. The SW was a disaster for me. I might have been better off with no clue for JADING. I initially had FAke for leatherette, “age” instead of OLD, and “money” instead of FOREX. Things got better only after I decided FLOTUS and BOOKFAIR had to be right…Anyway, can’t complain about this one being too easy…
ReplyDeleteEasy Ed
DeleteAAVE has been in the puzzle before but I could only remember that it started with A, until later. It stands for African American Vernacular English. Useful letters so it may come up again
I’m 99% on the same page as Rex here, but I’ve gotta say I don’t get the hate for FLOTUS.
ReplyDeleteAs I read it, “White House” is just an adjective phrase there — that is, a “partner” who is somehow related to/associated with the White House.
In fact, I take the phrasing to be a bit of a misdirect, precisely along the lines that Rex appears to have been misdirected, i.e. being pulled toward thinking of some kinda peer institution/entity. Whereas the word “partner” has an unusually strong affinity with FLOTUS, as that term identifies a person who is fundamentally (by definition) a partner.
Presumed male, which apparently is all many in the US can imagine as well.
DeleteGreat write up today, Rex. I found this very challenging and had to resort to cheating. Also put Zane Grey in at first.
ReplyDeleteThe puzzle started tough--working the crosses from 1-A, I had nothing until I TOO, and I hesitated there because I thought the title was "I TOO sing America." But it gave me BASIC, I knew ANITA, and there wass BABY SHOWER. Actually pretty whooshy for me with that, ANYONE HOME, HERDING CATS, ANIMAL FARM and more. and the first seven letters of APPOLLO. Like everyone else, I needed to see it was a Roman numeral to get EVAN.
ReplyDeleteAs I remember my history Lady JANE GREY never actually reigned, she just claimed the crown and was defeated 9 days later. Nope, I remembered it wrong. She was just never crowned, although she was beheaded. Tough times back then.
JINK was bad enough, but CAR TRAILER? First of all, who says that? It's just a trailer. And while you do hitch the trailer to the car, that really doesn't fit the clue.
FAKE PLANTS isn't great, either; never heard them called anything but 'artificial plants.'
Overall a good hard puzzle, though.
I didn’t like 56A either. I really wanted CAR SERVICE for that clue.
DeleteJberg
DeleteI actually liked the Roman numeral because from the cross I had an I. Problem solved. Just took me a while to replace geminI with the correct program!
Enjoyed the puzzle. Normal time no cheats. Didn’t find it particularly tough. It’s interesting how complaints about answers and clues are often largely reflective of a solver’s backround, or what he or she does for a living. For example, for someone in my world forex was a gimme. Jane Grey easy for a history nerd. Jink? I was looking for juke, a legit sports term.
ReplyDeleteRoberto Escobar
DeleteJINK is most definitely not a common word but an Athletic (NY Times unit) sports writer used it as recently as 2024. Guess he got bored with the usual suspects. Maybe the constructor saw it? Used it either to make the puzzle harder or because of desperation.
Having misspelled ERIK, I wound up asking how are FACEPLANTS green?
ReplyDeleteI would put it at slightly north of Medium. It fought back a little, but not crazily so, and I appreciate that on a Friday. Lack of zoom and whoosh doesn't ruin a Friday for me.
ReplyDeleteI rather disagree with Rex's review. The way FLOTUS is clued is completely fine: it's implicit that she's the partner of someone, and she and that someone reside in the White House. I reread what Rex SAYS there, and I still don't see a problem. There is no "of" or "in" or any other preposition in the clue to be confused by -- you the solver supply whatever it takes, just as you interpolate words as needed to make sense of a newspaper headline.
GETS A BAD RAP (or variants thereof) is so much "in the language", it doesn't come anywhere near the badness or clunkiness of "eats a sandwich". Maybe it's the present tense usage which makes it seem slightly less in the language, than say "got a bad rap"? Either way. It's fine.
AT SYMBOL: why do we need to settle on "sign" vs. "symbol"? Why can't we have two words for the same idea? Happens all the time.
LET'S ROCK sounds fine to me. Maybe I'm blind to my "corniness", but I'm pretty sure I've used it on occasion. Not as much as LET'S ROll (which I had there for a while), but it's a familiar expression nonetheless. And it crosses AVALANCHE, a word that looks cool to me.
BOOK FAIR: again Rex takes issue over a missing preposition. Didn't bother me so much. Maybe I see his point marginally better than I did with FLOTUS. But I tend to think he was still smarting a little over the lack of zoom and whoosh and the ego strokes that would entail.
One thing I didn't like was the cluing for BABY SHOWER. Is "coming out" supposed to refer to coming out through the birth canal, is that the idea? If so, well, that's somewhat asynchronous, isn't it? I'd also find that a bit too centered on that physical event -- a baby shower has its eyes set on the first year of a baby's life, not the physical reality of the birth. Nice try at misdirection, but... Aside from that, I thought the NW was handsomely constructed.
Huh, that's a new way to clue old crosswordese, YOKO. Impossible without the crosses, in my case.
I'm with Rex on JINK. Never heard it. I first put in "deke" there.
I think I'm not understanding the clue for FIR. Is "flooring" here in the sense of e.g. kitchen floors? If so, why would the wood there need to come from an evergreen? Baffling to me.
Love the phrase HERDING CATS. And a useful phrase it is.
That's enough for now. I liked the puzzle rather more than Rex did. I'd add an extra star to his rating.
I agree with all you said. Loved the puzzle, just wish I had finished
DeleteYep. Ditto to everything you said (except I skewed more to “hard”) including the deke entry…which I stubbornly held onto until my D’OH moment of JANEGREY, but then I tried to make it Jake (seems plausible to “Jake”).
Delete@tht. Agree with most of your comments. Need to give you my take on FIR, though. Yes it is a flooring material and where I live, on the west coast of British Columbia, it was once THE flooring material, which is why, when we were building a very modern house in our small city back in about 2008 and were trying to incorporate trademark elements of the architecture around us, we decided we wanted fir flooring. Unfortunately, new fir flooring was way too expensive so our contractor found an alternative. He located a demo company with a warehouse full of painted fir flooring ripped up from old factories. Sturdy stuff, an inch to an inch and a quarter thick and painted in shades of grey, olive green, and umber. When it was laid it looked like the world's most drab mosaic. Then they brought in the sanders. Within a couple of days they had created something quite beautiful; clear, old growth fir (most of this stuff was from the early part of the 20th century) with all the lovely golden and slightly orangey hues that define that particular wood, but marked with a history of nail holes, mostly blackened with age, scars where large machines had sat, etc. It was actually quite glorious. A few coats of satin urethane gave it a modern look. We loved it. When we built our new house here at the farm I tried to replicate that look but, sadly, the demo guy had gone out of business.
DeleteAnd, while I'm here ... @Beezer, someday I'm going to try to construct a puzzle full of weird sports moves, including deke, feint, jink, and (what I think you might hsve been thinking of) juke. I'm sure all the solvers will love it.
Appreciate your comments on FIR, @Les. Clearly my knowledge of types of wood used for floors, and their distinct qualities, is not all it could and should be. If I had to guess, it would be that price is a big reason for preferring FIR as opposed to, I don't know, oak or something -- value for money, durable, versatile, and it looks well as you were describing.
Delete@Les…haha…YES on juke, and what is weird is I even know the word but still thought “Jake.”! I just looked back at the whole vicinity and can’t explain any of why the whole JINK thing gave me problems…oh…because I didn’t know a singular jink meant ANYTHING! :)
Delete@Les and @tht... in 2005 I bought a 1949 postwar house in which the existing owner had just ripped out all the wall to wall carpet to expose the original Douglas Fir. It did not look very good at all.. full of staple holes, faded ugly finish. I rented a belt sander and my Gosh! did it look great after I was done. Then I applied the urethane and it was fantastic. Unfortunately fir is not a hardwood and it has not worn well in those 20 years. Since it is in every single room in the house except the bathroom, it's a big pain to redo so I keep putting it off.
DeleteOh I'm such a dolt... I didn't mean "belt sander", I meant "drum sander"... the big heavy thing you push around like a lawn mower.
DeleteIf you're going to press your opinions on the uncaring masses, it's probably easier to be a soapbox demagogue than a CARTRAILER.
ReplyDeleteWe're fed up with FLOTUS and POTUS and SCOTUS -- and you can QUOTUS!
I told Mrs. Egs that I'm tired of living in an ANIMALFARM with all her darn goats, her dang dogs and HERDINGCATS. I said she better get things cleaned up good by George or well (I never know which to use).
In my youth I did a few FAcEPLANTS in FAKEPLANTS.
Mrs. Egs recently lost her crucifix, so a friend with an extra RANACROSS over for her.
I liked a lot of the stuff that @Rex didn't. Like [Makes do for a while] for PERM caused a definite little smile. Also, hi JINK, glad to meet you. It's true that it's not used much, but that doesn't make it bad. Anyway, my experience was much like that of @Lewis, with fits and starts producing a very satisfying experience in the end. Thanks, Kyle Dolan.
To borrow a Thursday theme entry, AMEN to your second sentence.
DeleteWhatsername beat me to it, but I too LOVED "We're fed up with FLOTUS and POTUS and SCOTUS -- and you can QUOTUS!"
DeleteI have no specific evidence to support this, but I suspect that had this puzzle run 10 years ago, the review would not be nearly as harsh. But as many have noted, the NYT has so lowered its difficulty standards for late-week puzzles -- please, no arguments as to the merits or reasoning behind this; just acknowledge it as fact -- that the simplest way to inject some difficulty is to resort to proper noun cluing and/or obscure crosswordese.
ReplyDeleteFor me personally, I enjoyed a taste of the Friday crunch that used to be commonplace. The small price to pay -- stuff like JINK, ATSYMBOL, GLORY (as clued) -- is worth it. Is there a huge "fun factor" in this one? No, but there's also very little junk or truly forced entries.
Knowing that Satie's given name ends in a K meant that one went in quickly, and I never even noticed the FAcEPLANTS/ERIc possibility until I read the comments here. That definitely would have been better; odd choice.
For those bemoaning the puzzle's shortcomings relative to a Weintraub (or, before her, a Berry) I can only say "I hear ya" but also that it's like lamenting that every painting isn't as exquisite as the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel.
How odd. Or maybe it is me that’s odd. I struggle with these things. Some of you post solve times. Often it takes me 10x the time to solve. I always do, but it may take all morning. This one took 25 minutes. That may sound like an eternity but that’s “my” two and a half minutes. Easy Friday. Was it fun? Eh, middling.
ReplyDeleteRe “The ‘PET’ part of PET SNAKES was not at all expected”: I think the word terrarium in the clue signaled just that.
ReplyDeleteOkay. Happy to know that others, even RP, found this a bit challenging. But it’s Friday so that’s a good thing and I’m not complaining. Loved HERDING CATS which I do pretty much every day and AT SYMBOL although it did kept keep me stumped for a while. My major snafus were AAVE, SEALS, JANE GREY, JADING(??), LETS ROLL for ROCK plus of course, the atrocious JINK. Then I got so enthused with all the J’s that I tried making my hand count a JIVE instead of FIVE. But in all honesty, a mostly pleasant much NEEDed workout which undoubtedly helped hone my slightly rusted Friday solving CHOPS.
ReplyDeleteA minute under Saturday average so we'll onto the challenging range for a Friday.
ReplyDeleteThe SW corner was what set this one apart. The NW was easy and the rest of the puzzle was average.
I had the FAKE/FAUX write over. That incorrect K of course gave me nothing . That was bad enough but when the correct X showed up and gave me nothing it was worse. FOREX had to come entiely from the crosses but it did.
JINK?? I also had a problem with AAVE, GLORY, CART RAILER, FOREX. And no reminders of our so-called FLOTUS, please :(
ReplyDeleteI prefer Fridays since they're usually themeless, but I really wish Will & the NYT would get over whatever is going on with the disappearance of
Robyn W. on Fridays (Erik A. too of late). Is it because he NYT pays less than the NYer?
I enjoyed your comment, Rex on FIFA/our 'White House.'
God help us.
Thank you, Kyle :)
Once again my reading of faerie fantasy came in handy - SEALS went in with nary a hesitation. On the other hand JANE sat for the longest time as __NE; anNE was on the brain while deke fought for the 25D spot. Luckily, neither won.
ReplyDeleteI had a DNF that I noticed about 20 minutes after I finished (on paper). My Welsh version of Ian was EwAN and I realized the # after APOLLO had to be Roman. EVAN, oops.
FAKE in the SE helped me from Fake leatherette. FAUX, of course.
I ran into FOREX my first trip across the Atlantic, exchanging $$ for kroner in Sweden. Later, we found that using an ATM gave better rates. Now no one uses cash in Sweden so our leftover kroner would probably have to get turned in at a FOREX and we'd lose some to fees.
I thought, with ANYONE HOME?, SINK OR SWIM, HERDING CATS, FAKE PLANTS, AVALANCHE, that this was a pretty good Friday. Harder than recent Fridays but not at the pre-2000s hardness level.
Thanks, Kyle Dolan!
I think I'll start using "Catch 22" references to rate puzzles. Today's "feather in my cap" was JINK, which I actually knew somehow. Today's "black eye" was AAVE, which I have seen, and recently, but couldn't remember
ReplyDeleteThe NW was easy, except for YOKO--note, not every new way to clue a name is a good idea. NE not bad after I fixed WRAP, had WIND.. SE not bad as I knew ERIK. Middle problem with parsing ATSYMBOL and not knowing GLORY. Also thinking of Julia as a first name, not helpful. SW the worst FOREX ????. TILTS for TENDS. Needed the Roman numeral to come up with EVAN, but worst of all, took forever to see Secret as a brand name, even though that's what's in my medicine cabinet. Come on man.
Note to anyone keeping a GASCAN in your trunk--bad idea. At least make sure it's an empty one.
Thought this was about right for a Friday. Some tortured cluing but I'll accept that as the price of increasing difficulty. Thanks for all the fun, KD. Nice to have to Knuckle Down once in a while.
Good point about the GAS CAN, @Pablo, if you're in an urban, suburban or similar area. If you run out of gas you pull over and walk ten blocks to fill the can. This sort of works, except that most modern vehicles alert you when you're within 50 miles of dry so you should never get stranded. On the other hand, it's nice to know that when I'm miles up a gravel road in the Rockies, searching for that cutthroat trout valhalla I have a 20 litre jerry can strapped into the bed of my truck. And it's full.
DeleteAnd that's how it's done.
DeleteI loved this one! All the tricky clues that Rex found annoying I loved because they added some bite to the cluing. I still finished in an average time but liked having to work for it. This was really fun for me. Thanks, Kyle!
ReplyDeleteThis puzzle was a disappointment on many levels. For instance, a baby shower is not a coming out party. It's a PRE-coming out party. If the baby comes out at the shower, things have taken a bad turn. This puzzle was a bad turn. Two-and-a-half stars is generous. Boo.
ReplyDeleteDisappointed to dnf essentially on not attaching the Secret in "Secret offering" to DEODORANT. It just ... Would. Not. Come.
ReplyDeleteAlso, my ear hears "ANYbody HOME" as more in the language, but it didn't fit, so ANYONE it is.
Well, my timer indicated this was a hard one for me (for a Friday) but I liked it because…in spite of really wanting to give it up and cheat (I actually forget where, but at least twice) I did NOT and finished although not surprisingly I’m hand up with a big side-eye (or eye roll) to JINK. Other than that, it was the delightful challenge I like for a Friday and Saturday. The puzzle doesn’t GET(s) ABADRAP from me! Thanks Kyle Dolan.
ReplyDeleteI actually put in SELKY thinking maybe it was a Scottish spelling. My selkie knowledge is entirely from “The Secret of Roan Inish”. Such a haunting and beautiful movie.
ReplyDeleteBefore I even get to the rest of the puzzle, I need to deal with this: it is not MOT (41D), it is Bon Mot. I don’t care what Merriam-Webster says, it’s bon mot. Good word. Fine word. Not simply word.
ReplyDeleteOther than that this was pretty good. Difficult good. Hard but satisfying work. A Friday like I haven’t done for some time.
As Rex points out, there was a fair swack of awkward clueing. He cites a few that bugged him, to which I would like to add 56A CAR TRAILER. Should it be “hitch a ride” or hitch "up" a ride? Like, you know, attaching a trailer with a car on it. At first I thought the constructor was looking for a trailer you haul behind your car, like a utility trailer for taking stuff to the dump or a small U-Haul for all the stuff you didn’t want to trust to the movers. But how could I have been so stupid? My favourite brother has built a successful business moving classic, exotic, and very expensive vehicles around the western half of the continent. You don’t think that million dollar Bugatti got to the Concourse at Pebble Beach by itself, do you? Nope. It was trailered, in what you might call a CAR TRAILER. I mean he just calls it a trailer, but it’s designed to move cars, so … OK. Why was that so difficult for me?
Fortunately, I didn’t even encounter the clue for PERMS (50D). Ugh.
Who doesn’t love HERDING CATS?
Les S More.
DeleteI agree about herding cats.
But disagree about MOT.
We English speakers took MOT and made it part of our language. A high % of our words came that way.but we almost always changed the meanings. Once we borrow a word we do what we want with it. That’s how language works.
BTW I do not like MOT I think it sounds stupid in English. But it has become an English word So it is, sadly, a valid answer.
I had a problem with BABYSHOWER for coming out party as well, didnt really make sense. At first I had BABYSittER - thinking if parents wanted to come out and go to the movies they'd need a babysitter. I cheated and looked up GLORY... Had FAke before FAUX.
ReplyDelete“SELKIES would be a good grid word. Zero NYTXW appearances to date.”
ReplyDeleteIt has appeared in a clue though. I think the answer was ‘SEAL’.
One does NOT store a gas can in the trunk
ReplyDeleteYou do not store a gas can in the trunk.
ReplyDeleteWouldn't an empty GAS CAN be all right?
DeleteYou store empty gas cans in a trunk. But…fair enough…with as many gas stations as there are today most people don’t think they’ll have to set off on foot to get gas and bring it back to the car.
DeleteI’ve solved the NYT puzzles for about 50 years now, off and on. For many years I only bought the Friday and Saturday papers, because those were the puzzles I enjoyed. But I never read any commentary or discussion until I discovered this blog about 5 years ago. So before that I’d work a puzzle, find it easy or hard, like it or dislike it, and move on. I enjoy the blog, especially if I hadn’t understood the theme, and I love the comments, especially those of @egsforbreakfast (thank you, egs). What has struck me more than anything is how uniquely personal each solving experience seems to be. And yet it’s so satisfying when one’s experience overlaps with that of another commenter (or with that of Rex). Like today’s FAcEPLANT. I hadn’t seen that, but I loved the comments of all those who did. And imagining western author zANEGREY dressed in an Elizabethan outfit getting his head chopped off cracked me up.
ReplyDeleteAs for my puzzle experience, my time was faster than average (timing being another weird feature of solving in the app - I never gave a thought to time before), I’d never heard of JINK, the FLOTUS and PERM clues made perfect sense to me, and any puzzle with HERDING CATS is a big winner in my book.
This one played easily for me and I often don’t finish Friday. And having run a currency desk Forex as a gimme. Despite a couple no idea like the Oscar winning song it was in my wheelhouse.
ReplyDelete¡Aquí vamos! ¡Vamos a darle caña!
ReplyDeletePretty challenging for me but the long answers kept charming me and it had a rare-in-crosswords sense of humor so it's a win all the way around.
I frequently say, "Hello-o-o," when I get home. Not so much to the dog as she's deaf, but mainly in case there are any criminals lurking and they need time to escape. Also, if they're looking to attack me, I'd like to get it over with so we can all move on about our day.
Who is driving around with a gas can in the trunk? That would be "jump off the roof while flapping your arms" dumb.
JINK and JADING are new to me.
I haven't had a secret invitation or secret offering in a while, maybe ever? I may die being OVERT until the end.
Gonna have to remember this new YOKO. Crossworders have been desperate for one for a long time. It is for some book award dude, but we're needy and are open to anything.
People: 7
Places: 1
Products: 8
Partials: 5
Foreignisms: 1
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Gary's Grid Gunk Gauge: 22 of 72 (31%)
Funny Factor: 7 😂
Tee-Hee: Makes do for awhile.
Uniclues:
1 Dude from my house plant who thought he'd take a lap or two around my water glass on the bathroom sink. (It never goes well.)
2 Difficult admission for a member of Pledge Anonymous.
3 Result of Scholastic setting up displays in the elementary library.
4 ↗️
5 Spends time keeping the plastic alive.
6 As a chronic underachiever, the only kind I've ever gotten.
7 Alleged lover of pink fluffy balls opts for a Ding Dong.
8 Corollary of yo mama jokes.
9 Drove west of Grants, New Mexico.
10 Dos for domestic diamondbacks.
1 SINK OR SWIM GNAT
2 I TOO DUST SEALS
3 BOOK FAIR AMUSES
4 OLD AT SYMBOL
5 SITS FAKE PLANTS
6 BASIC JOB OFFERS
7 FAUX SNO-FAN (~)
8 OH SURE, HIS NANA
9 RAN ACROSS MILAN
10 PET SNAKES PERMS
My Fascinating Crossword Uniclue Keepsake from Last Year: Dirt. CICADA BIODOME.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
One I thought you'd be all over, @Gary Jugert:
DeleteAddendum by cleaning lady after affirming that she does cleanse walruses:
ITOO DUST SEALS
On the easy side for me with the SW corner a tad tougher than the rest. Could be a wheelhouse thing?
ReplyDeleteNo costly erasures but FOREX and JINK (see above) and YOKO and GLORY were WOEs.
I did know JANE GREY, AAVE, and ITOO
Solid with not much junk and a bit of sparkle, liked it.
Re: Puzzles getting easier. I just started doing Sunday puzzles from the mid 90s and they are at least twice as difficult as the current batch of Sundays.
Yes quite challenging; just under 30 minutes for me which is about the limit of my patience these days. I finished with a dumb error at PIT SNAKES because although I've seen it several times, AAVE just won't stick in my brain. It's such a goofy string of letters.
ReplyDeleteI didn't fall for the FACE PLANTS trap because I knew Mr. Satie was either ERIC or ERIK and initially put in a C, I thought: no, I'm pretty sure it's a K. I entered it in "pencil" mode just in case I was wrong. But I did have ANYONE HERE for 15 across for ages.
For 30 down I wasn't thinking in Roman numerals so the only thing that fit was APOLLO TEN, but I knew that wasn't right because Apollo 8 famously broadcast from lunar orbit at Christmas time. And yes a big thumbs down to the senselessly nameified clue for GLORY.
HERDING CATS seems to be a bit of a fan favorite today. I would probably rank it just below GOAT RODEO, but slightly ahead of the still useful CLUSTER F*CK, with the passe DUMPSTER FIRE next, and the way overused SNAFU bringing up the rear. Of course, YMMV.
ReplyDelete@Southside. I'm in the cheering section for HERDING CATS. I'm not so clear on what a GOAT RODEO actually is but I think I might have experienced it. Every once in a while one of our goats will find a weak spot in the pasture fence and all the other goats will follow her out and the alarm will go up and we will all head out to try to direct them back through the gate while someone works feverishly to repair the rent fence. Much fun. Definitely a CLUSTER F*CK and a SNAFU, but not really a DUMPSTER FIRE because we usually manage to resolve it. Managing animals, not just cats, is such a joy.
DeleteEnjoyably tough for me and a lot of fun to figure out. Each quadrant provided me with just enough to get a start, like ANITA + SNO-->ANYONE..., or MILAN + FIFA-->ANIMAL FARM, and then it was chip-chip-chip away at the rest, with the rewards of seeing deviously clued answers materialize. So nice to have a more challenging Friday!
ReplyDeleteFor those not familiar with YOKO Ogawa's The Memory Police, I heartily recommend it, if you're up for something in the chilling dystopian vein. It's one of those books that has stayed with me a long time.
It’s such fun to make it to the bottom row before finding an error. I kid. I’m not a coffee drinker so Half-CAF didn’t resonate. I went with CAl, thinking calories. I also used ERIc instead of ERIK, giving me lAcEPLANTS along the bottom. They sound pretty and likely green. Oh, well.
ReplyDeleteI’m taking LET’S ROCK as an homage to David Lynch, as this is the anniversary of his passing.
ReplyDelete@Andy Reaser i was looking for this comment. kind of bummed rex did not post the man from another place. but glad someone else saw what i did :)
DeleteFairly friendly solvequest, at our house. There were only 4 no-knows, and they stayed outta each other's way.
ReplyDeleteBTW: fave no-know: JINK. The first JINKfest since pre-Shortzmeister 1986.
Constructioneer dude is clearly partial to K's as in Kyle:
that's why he went with FAKEPLANTS/ERIK, instead of a more JINC-ish version.
staff weeject pick: RNA. Got to learn about its self-spliciness.
some fave stuff: HERDINGCATS. RANACROSS. LETSROCK. BOOKFAIR clue.
And M&A now wants to visit an ANIMALFARM with PETSNAKES, FAKEPLANTS, and SEALS. With CATS HERDING the SEALS & SNAKES, if possible. And with Jedi minks [aka JINKs].
Thanx for the themeless fun, Mr. Dolan dude. Nice FOUR-K [not FORE-X] job.
Masked & Anonymo3Us
p.s.
runt puzzle:
**gruntz**
As a Welsh person, I've never met an EVAN. There's not even a V in the Welsh alphabet - that sound is made by a single letter 'f'! I tried both ioAN and ifAN and was not having a good time...
ReplyDeleteDani
DeleteI looked EVAN up.
It is an English nam which came from a Welsh name. Shortz considers that close enough for crosswords YMMV
I did have a friend in Wales who was born and raised on as she told me Ynys Mon.She grew up speaking Welsh as a child, as well as English. I learned a little Welsh from her. Including f has a v sound. But the source Welsh name was spelled Ieuan. So English speakers changed it to a v sound.
Bad idea to put a GASCAN in the trunk of your can, assuming it’s full of gas!!
ReplyDeleteIf you give me a four letter word before leatherette 100% of the time I'm saying "warm".
ReplyDeleteGot GLORY right away. But I'm a musician and an EGOT nerd. Glory is the Oscar piece of John Legend's EGOT puzzle.
ReplyDeleteIt’s a beautiful song.
DeleteDid a frowny face for 10D REM being clued as "Kind of cycle". It's not a cycle but rather a stage or phase of the sleep cycle which is a pattern of going through three stages of light to deep sleep and then into REM sleep. This cycle repeats itself about every 90 minutes throughout the total sleep time.
ReplyDeletePsychologists doing sleep research initially called the REM stage "paradoxical sleep" because the brain wave pattern during REM looks similar to that of someone who is awake.
Couldn't help but notice that the POC (plural of convenience) was on prominent display, including several of the two for one POCs where a Down and an Across both get a grid filling letter count boost by sharing a single S, usually at their ends. This happens with PET SNAKE/AMUSE, TEND/SIT and PERM/FAKE PLANT.
Then there's the rarer stealth two for one where the S occurs within one of the crosses, here with GET A BAD RAP/CHOP. We also get more than one JOB OFFER.
Technical note; POC is a crossword term, not a grammatical one.
I liked this one a lot. Started VERY slow and then it all fell into place. Probably helped that I knew JINK. Would have finished much quicker if I knew Jane Grey instead of Earl Grey!
ReplyDeleteSatisfying Friday puzzle for me ! For once I did not find it as difficult as Rex’s rating. FLOTUS was one of my first entries - I solved SW, SE, NW and finally the NE which was tricky. I did have to look up YOKO and RAUL so maybe I agree with Rex’s rating after all, but I enjoyed it more than he did
ReplyDeleteMan Rex and I are different people. Today was challenging but yesterday was easy?? Exact opposite experience over here, I finished today's puzzle in half the time as yesterday's.
ReplyDeleteBoo! BoooOOoOoOOOO!
ReplyDeleteI didn't mind this puzzle; it felt like a Friday to me. I think JADING is a very odd word. Besides JINK, that's the one that stood out to me.
ReplyDeleteAbolish ICE!
ReplyDeleteDown Under in Orstralia JINK is very common usage in football codes of all descriptions when describing a sidestepping manoeuvre.
ReplyDeleteAgree 100% about FIFA. I was already angry after reading the paper before sitting down to do the crossword, then this.
ReplyDeleteBrutally hard. Some really good fills in the NW but a lot of awkwardness (CARTRAILER (isn’t it just a TRAILER?)), obscure fills (ERIK, GLORY, RAUL) and bad cluing (TENDS should have (to); FLOTUS).
ReplyDeleteFinished about 9 minutes above my average or ~75% longer than usual.
Me thinks jink stinks.
ReplyDeleteSays Fat Larry.