Relative difficulty: Easy-Medium
Theme answers:
- 23A: Rock of Ages (ROSETTA STONE)
- 25A: How to Succeed in Business Without Really Trying (NEPOTISM)
- 44A: A Class Act (FIELD TRIP)
- 47A: A Strange Loop (MOBIUS STRIP)
- 67A: A Little Night Music (LULLABY)
- 69A: Rent (SPLIT)
- 70A: A Chorus Line (REFRAIN)
- 88A: The Producers (PROLETARIAT)
- 91A: Into the Woods (OUTDOORSY)
- 111A: The Wiz (EINSTEIN)
- 113A: Mean Girls (AVERAGE JANES)
Babur (Persian: ببر, Persian: [bɑː.βuɾ]; 14 February 1483 – 26 December 1530; born Zahīr ud-Dīn Muhammad) was the founder of the Mughal Empire in the Indian subcontinent. He was a descendant of Timur and Genghis Khan through his father and mother respectively. He was also given the posthumous name of Firdaws Makani ('Dwelling in Paradise'). [...] Religiously, Babur started his life as a staunch Sunni Muslim, but he underwent significant evolution. Babur became more tolerant as he conquered new territories and grew older, allowing other religions to peacefully coexist in his empire and at his court. He also displayed a certain attraction to theology, poetry, geography, history, and biology—disciplines he promoted at his court—earning him a frequent association with representatives of the Timurid Renaissance. His religious and philosophical stances are characterized as humanistic. // Babur married several times. Notable among his children were Humayun, Kamran Mirza, Hindal Mirza, Masuma Sultan Begum, and the author Gulbadan Begum. Babur died in 1530 in Agra and Humayun succeeded him. Babur was first buried in Agra but, as per his wishes, his remains were moved to Kabul and reburied. He ranks as a national hero in Uzbekistan and Kyrgyzstan. Many of his poems have become popular folk songs. He wrote the Baburnama in Chaghatai Turkic; it was translated into Persian during the reign (1556–1605) of his grandson, the emperor Akbar. (wikipedia)
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I also don't know what AVERAGE JANES are. Is that like ... a female version of AVERAGE JOES? Shrug. The whole thing is a shrug. There's "gamer-speak" (ugh) (SMURFS) (48D: Uses an alternate account to play against easier opponents, in gamer-speak). Weapons of police brutality (TASER). CATTLE PEN. Nothing here I was terribly happy to see. And from REDD to PARTA to CIERA to ERMA to LSAT to IMA to AER to YENTE to ETOILE, the grid seemed to lean pretty into tired fill and crosswordese. Didn't really give us any new looks, anything to really admire. I don't see the appeal.
My path through this thing was bizarre. I just sort of ... drifted. Down, down, down. My first themer was SPLIT (which I didn't really recognize as a themer), and then I didn't see another one until I was at the bottom of the grid, with AVERAGE JANES. And from there I started climbing back up. Totally meandering. Not my normal M.O., but cross after cross was easy and I just followed where the crosses took me, and next thing I knew, I'd traversed the grid:
Only tough part was BABUR, a name that made its first NYTXW appearance back in August, but one that I clearly didn't fix firmly in my brain. Needed every single cross. Otherwise, the only toughness in the puzzle came in trying to figure out the theme answers. Some of them were ... unexpected. Stretches, even, you might say. PROLETARIAT was perhaps the most unlikely-seeming. I guess from a Marxist perspective, yes, the PROLETARIAT are the "producers" (of goods) who are exploited in a capitalist system by those who own the means of production. They receive less (in wages) than what their labor is actually worth, "the remainder appropriated by the bourgeoisie as profit" (wikipedia). In case you were wondering what that clue was about, that's what that clue was about. The other theme clues seem pretty straightforward. Not sure what is "of Ages" about the ROSETTA STONE. Is it "of Ages" because ... it's old? When I think of the ROSETTA STONE, I think of translation, not "Ages."
Bullets:
Cleo has been a part of prior Holiday Pet Pics extravaganzas. Sadly, she left us this year and is now leaping into Christmas trees in Cat Heaven. They have Christmas trees in Cat Heaven, right? Of course they do. Stupid question.
Look at this sweet, saucer-eyed baby. Eighteen years is a hell of a life for a dog. R.I.P., Toby.
Here's Rosie. Her person writes: "Rosie is white in the face now but still with us for another Christmas. She buried the neckwear outside years ago."
Next up, Bella and Cammie. See if you can tell who enjoys Christmas more:
And finally Casper, who does not look like a ghost at all and wants nothing to do with your proposed "all-dog version of A Christmas Carol." Just let Casper sleep.
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The Rosetta Stone is a stele of granodiorite inscribed with three versions of a decree issued in 196 BC during the Ptolemaic dynasty of Egypt, on behalf of King Ptolemy V Epiphanes. The top and middle texts are in Ancient Egyptian using hieroglyphic and Demotic scripts, respectively, while the bottom is in Ancient Greek. The decree has only minor differences across the three versions, making the Rosetta Stone key to deciphering the Egyptian scripts.Nothing else seems hard to understand today. The "summers" in 81D: Some summers, in brief (CPAS) are people who do sums, that is, people who add numbers together. I completely forgot what the SD part of SD CARD stands for (6A: S.L.R. insert since the early 2000s). Nope, turns out I never knew. Seems to have originally stood for "Secure Digital." Even if I had known that, hard to imagine I'd enjoy seeing SDCARD in the grid. Despite SDCARDs having been in existence for over a quarter of a century, this is SDCARD's NYTXW debut. Definitely falls under the "Not All Debuts Are Good" category. Side note: SIM CARD has appeared in the NYTXW twice. For some reason, I don't mind it nearly as much.
Bullets:
- 20A: One sporting an article of apparel (WEARER) — well, it's a word, but the clue is completely unimaginative, which makes the word seem awkward. [One sporting an article apparel] is literally everyone in the clothed world. I'm a WEARER, you're a WEARER, he's a WEARER, she's a WEARER ... there's gotta be a more specific context for this word.
- 36A: Swallow something hook, line and sinker (EAT IT UP) — author Len Deighton has a series of spy novels from the '80s/'90s called the Hook, Line and Sinker Trilogy. Actor Bill Nighy recommended Deighton on his "ill-advised" podcast, so I've got the first of the series, Spy Hook, sitting next to my comfy chair here at home (thank you, public library!). If I can finish R.F. Kuang's Katabasis in the next few days, I might have time to cram Spy Hook in before New Year's. Otherwise, it's going to have to wait another week or two, since I'm starting the new year with Dickens (an idea stolen from my friend Levi Stahl). This year—my inaugural Dickens year—I'm going with Dombey & Son (1846-48). Got me a beat-up, orange-spined Penguin copy from the mid-late 20th century, since that is what my brain thinks Dickens books are supposed to look like (like they looked when I was in college).
- 56A: Full legislative assembly (PLENUM) — from the Latin for "ugly-looking and ugly-sounding word." Rhymes with "Blenheim," I assume. Or maybe "venom." Or maybe "screen 'em!" I dunno.
- 58A: Personification of darkness, in Greek myth (EREBUS) — I never learned about whoever this is. I learned the name from crosswords, possibly when I learned that the southernmost active volcano in the world is Mount EREBUS in Antarctica.
- 72A: Creatures formed from the fingers of the sea goddess Sedna, in Inuit myth (SEALS) — this clue is interesting! Teach me Inuit mythology, I'm into it. Maybe don't put SEDNA in the grid anytime soon, though. Baby steps. Here is a video of two SEALS at play.
- 99A: Eschew the high road (GO LOW) — a phrase popularized by Michelle Obama: "When they GO LOW, we go high"—how did that strategy work out? I forget.
- 16D: Cheep trills? (TWITTERS) — I like this clue's commitment to the pun. To both puns. The double pun. Puns should be ostentatious and or they should not exist at all.
- 17D: Dodger's comeuppance (IRS AUDIT) — so, a tax dodger. In fact, I had TAX AUDIT here at first.
- 45D: Mythical figure undone by hubris (ICARUS) — was it "overbearing pride" (i.e. "hubris") that caused ICARUS to fly too close to the sun? Or just regular old teenage disobedience?
- 56D: Blue Ribbon brand (PABST) — this reminds me: Blue Velvet is playing at the New Bev (in L.A.) next month, so if you live in the area you should definitely get out and see that on the big screen.
- 85D: Shell filling stations (TACO BARS) — I kinda want "shell-filling" to be hyphenated. Isn't it a compound adjective modifying "stations?" The clue wants us to think of gas stations, which you wouldn't, probably, if a hyphen was in there.
- 100D: Setting for Cole Porter's "Anything Goes" (OCEAN) — [sings parts of the song to himself trying to find the "OCEAN" part ... "hmmm hmmm glimpse of stocking ... silly gigolos ... etc."]. Turns out the clue is referring to the entire show (which takes place aboard an OCEAN liner), not just the song:
- 98D: Gathering of moles (INTEL) — thought this was going to be one of those dumb, made-up names for a group of animals, like ... a sequestering of moles, or something ridiculous like that. But instead it's the stuff that moles (i.e. long-term spies or sleeper agents) gather.
- 111A: Blue-necked bird (EMU) — they have blue necks? This is like learning a new OREO fact (that OREOs come in PIE form—not a new fact) (82D: Black-and-white desserts).
- 37D: Short boxers, e.g. (PUPS) — as of right now, I have no idea what this means. I can see how [Young boxers, e.g.] might be PUPS, but "Short?" That ... is an expression I don't know. I guess young dogs are "short" compared to adult dogs, but no one talks that way. I thought for a bit that the answer was going to be PUGS, since "boxers" (the kind in a ring with gloves) are sometimes known slangily as "PUGS." But still, there's the matter of "short." Maybe it's underwear? Are there "short boxers" called PUPS? One of you will tell me how this clue works and then I'll come back here and add a note. But if the PUPS in question really are boxer puppies, I'm leaving this comment as is.
Speaking of PUPS (and other small animals)... time once again for 🌲🐈Holiday Pet Pics🐕🌲! Note: PLEASE DO NOT SEND ME ANY MORE PET PICS, I'M ALL FULL UP FOR THIS YEAR, thank you.
Let's start with a bunch of memorial pet pics. Here's the late great Zoe Bear, adopted at 8, lived to 18, clearly very very fond of Christmas. Look how fond.
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| [Thanks, Chris!] |
Cleo has been a part of prior Holiday Pet Pics extravaganzas. Sadly, she left us this year and is now leaping into Christmas trees in Cat Heaven. They have Christmas trees in Cat Heaven, right? Of course they do. Stupid question.
| [Cleo, pre-leap] [Thanks, Nancy!] |
Look at this sweet, saucer-eyed baby. Eighteen years is a hell of a life for a dog. R.I.P., Toby.
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| [Thanks, Claudia!] |
Next up, Bella and Cammie. See if you can tell who enjoys Christmas more:
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| [Bella, who did not consent to being part of this Christmas ring-toss game] |
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| [Cammie, seen her in a still from her one-woman Christmas show, Santa Paws!] [Thanks, Steven!] |
And finally Casper, who does not look like a ghost at all and wants nothing to do with your proposed "all-dog version of A Christmas Carol." Just let Casper sleep.
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| [Thanks, Brady!] |
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ReplyDeleteEasy-Medium. It didn't seem to put up a lot of resistance, but I had more than a normal Sunday's quota of overwrites and WOEs. Liked it more than @Rex did.
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Overwrites:
LooS before LAVS for the Bath baths at 12A
NEPO baby before NEPOTISM for How to Succeed at 25A
PART i (as in Roman numeral I) before A for the 31A starting section
My 38A modern map subject was a GEotag before it was a GENOME
At first I tried to spell the beginning of 47A as MoeBIUS but it didn't fit.
I got ARI Shapiro confused with ira Glass at 60A
lte before RNA for the 75A cell letters
I can never remember whether the matchmaker is YENTE or YENTa (123A)
WOEs:
AISHA Tyler (19A)
Never heard of TURNT as slang for super-excited (24D)
Had no idea about the gaming-related definition of SMURFS (48D)
Greek mythological character EREBUS at 58A
Didn't know the Inuit history of SEALS (72A)
Mughal Empire founder BABUR at 74D
I resisted GOTO as a programming command (87D) because I'm not aware of any modern language that uses it. It is a command in the BASIC language; however, it should be rendered in all caps because it stands for Beginners' All-purpose Symbolic Instruction Code.
28 minutes for me this morning, which I think is easy-medium. The puzzle was fun with good entries—I enjoyed the solve—but the theme was kind of a non-theme. Like just a clever way to clue the longer answers—but the answers have absolutely nothing in common. So I think I’d give it 4 stars for fill and 2 stars for theme. So maybe 2.5 altogether, cuz I think a Sunday puzzle should be all about the theme. Favorite answers—ROSETTASTONE, MOBIUSSTRIP (I love that, my favorite cool thing in geometry), PROLETARIAT, EINSTEIN. Also enjoyed learning the slang meaning of “SMURFS”, and seeing the SORBONNE and ROOTWORDS. Thanks, Alex, for this Sunday morning offering!
ReplyDeleteI enjoyed it for the simple reason that it probably (no, definitely) was the easiest Sunday NYT puzzle I have ever done. The theme clues were almost like “regular” misdirects, so it had the feel of an easy themeless puzzle. Kind of nice to not have to fight through a convoluted theme construct or a bunch of arcana for a change.
ReplyDeleteThe only things that put up any resistance were the usual suspects like SMURFS (I’m old, and my grandkids lost patience with trying to tech me how to “game” a long time ago). I got SORBONNE but missed ETOILE, which is pretty good for me. I never developed an interest in (ancient ?) history - Columbus and Billy Shakespeare are about as far back as I go, so BABUR was a crosses only situation.
Similarly, both brig and MASTS sound like nautical terms, but the connection is lost on me - I thought the brig was like the jail, and MASTS are places for sails, but the truth is I don’t really know.
Rex gave it easy/medium, which is unusual because pretty much everything is easy for him. It will be interesting to see if it is a wheelhouse thing, or if a consensus develops that this was in fact about as easy a grid that we have had on a Sunday for quite some time.
I had the same issue with brig & MASTS. just googled it to discover that a brig is a type of 2-mast ship. 🤷🏻♂️
DeleteMy first thought was "jail" as well, so I wrote in "irons."
DeletePunny wordplay and Broadway shows - what could possibly go wrong? Add to that the ballsy double down of including eleven themers! It was easy and the overall fill was actually fine - I tend to like this constructor’s cluing voice - but in the end this was a mess.
ReplyDeleteFlight of ICARUS
Thankfully the themers didn’t require a deep knowledge of the shows to grok - the misdirects were clear and topical. I guess MOBIUS STRIP is neat?
Procul Harum
Rex identifies the highlights - the oversized grid became a chore halfway through. Liked SORBONNE, DREAM JOB and SANTIAGO. TURNT is the FEEBLEST entry we’ve seen recently.
Hozier
This was tough stuff but I love Toby and Rosie.
John My Beloved
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DeleteOn Boxing Day you you wrote a greeting in Irish. to your relatives in Dingle, which fascinated me. I could tell the Irish phrase did not have St. Stephen or Boxing Day in it so I looked it up. A tradition that almost died out but is now being revived, Wren day with Wren Boys.
I misread the clue for 6A as “SNL insert . . .” and thought it might be a reference to those joke ads they used to do. (Maybe they still do—I haven’t seen that show in decades.) Other than that, the only hangup this morning was dNA instead of RNA, which made the crossing CAdEER hard to parse.
ReplyDeleteGlad to make the acquaintance of BABUR today. If we met back in August, I don’t have any recollection. I hope to recognize him the next time we meet.
["Jersey Boys"]
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Nice one!
DeleteIt was cool how, in the theme, the puzzle made the solver come up with clue-like answers from answer-like clues. I like how that made me think. Lovely twist, Alex.
ReplyDeleteAnd lovely grid-building skills, as with 99 theme squares and 11 theme answers, the box was dense with theme, yet solved smoothly, and Alex even shoehorned in five non-theme theater-related clues/answers.
I especially liked NEPOTISM and OUTDOORSY, and the original clues [Law, but not order] for CAREER, and [Cheep trills] for TWITTERS.
Funny. I was just thinking the other day that musicals are so unrealistic – I mean, who breaks out into song IRL in conversation? – and yet, and yet, I love so many of them, find so many magical and thrilling. And I carry so many of the tunes with me.
So, you had me at the puzzle’s title, Alex, and you kept me through to the last square. This was a heap of fun. Thank you!
When they were good they were very good, but when they were bad ...
ReplyDeleteMany fun entries, but as Rex note, there are hundreds of musicals from which to choose, so really every theme entry should land. Yet the Wiz for EINSTEIN and Rock of Ages for ROSETTA STONE just don’t work as literal clues.
AVERAGE JANES is definitely not something I’ve heard, but I have no problem believing people use it.
The comedian Albert Brooks (Rob Reiner's oldest friend) changed his last name for show business. Had he kept it, he would have been known as Albert EINSTEIN. His brother Bob Einstein uses his full name except when acting as SUPER DAVE OSBORNE.
DeleteI too had to randomly meander around the grid for a while.
ReplyDeleteAgree the choice of musicals was... unusual. FIELDTRIP for "A Class Act" or MOBIUSSTRIP for "A Strange Loop" elicited (only) a faint smile from me, only because I am not familiar with the Broadway musical. (And I love Mobius strips!) Unlike Rex, I found ROSETTASTONE and "Rock of Ages" to be nicely paired. If the grid featured real, actual Broadway musicals as well, that would've been a feat; but alas, I could find only the likes of "Einstein's Dreams", "Mary Jane", and "Marie and Rosetta".
Well now, we're in that lazy period 'twixt Christmas and New Year's. I started writing my holiday cards just yesterday, but this is early for me! Off we go, then. See you all in 2026!!
Average difficulty for a Sunday. Needed cheats to get AISHA and MOBIUSSTRIP.. I also had "part1" before PARTA. TURNT is a made-up word, as far as I can tell.
ReplyDeleteOh no. Not to be unkind - my least favorite constructor :(
ReplyDeleteLoved the pet pics.
Have a good day everyone :)
I took the “Off” to refer to the way people say “based off” (when they should be saying “based on”). So the answers were (based) “off Broadway” (show titles). Just a guess.
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DeleteTURNT has appeared in the Times puzzle before more than once. . And it did elicit complaints from older commenters. I am in my 70’s and I didn’t have a clue but I remembered it this time
It is slang and it is labeled slang. It is no more made up than any other slang word, like say snafu. Turnt is apparently in common use among young people. The Times puzzle uses slang from many different generations. I don’t see anything wrong with that
I agree with mmorgan's take on "Off Broadway."
DeleteMy wife and I are huge gamers- we're on PS5 together almost every day- and she had never heard SMURFS, while it only barely tickled something in the back of my memory. It's not just gamer lingo, it's particularly obscure gamer lingo.
ReplyDeleteShould clues for vip pass and irs audit indicate initials are in the answer? I thought that was a “rule”?
ReplyDeleteAnonymous 8:09 am
DeleteThere is no hard and fast rule about signaling abbreviations. Both IRS and VIP are almost always in abbreviated form, even in the news. I really can’t remember anyone saying the original of VIP.except humorously. Abbreviations like these are not usually signaled by the clue especially in weekend puzzles
Mean = average in math/statistics.
ReplyDeleteI vote for Easy-Medium as well. I was a little worried what was in store when I saw the name Alex Eaton-Salners, but the worries were for naught. Very straightforward, meat-and-potatoes, but not the kind where you EAT IT UP with relish (like the Sauerbraten we made for Christmas, potato dumplings on the side, Kartoffelknödel for short, all yummy no matter what language it's in). More the fare that you chew absentmindedly as you reflect on your day, like a microwaved SWANson dinner, in other words far from the epitome of graceful beauty in a meal.
ReplyDeleteLiteral is right. I suggest that "Off Broadway Musicals" here means "based off of Broadway musicals", so in other words not the awry, amiss sort of "off", but something more prosaic, just like the rest of the puzzle.
Nothing about it was really unpleasant. Maybe SD CARD was the thing that displeased me most. Also calling Ringo "STARR" (not his real last name -- that's Starkey) was a little jarring; nobody says "you got Starr on the drums". And I'm feeling a little persnickety toward MOBIUS STRIP, even though I should be used to this sort of thing by now: it really needs either an umlaut or a respelling (with an E after the O). But then coming down you'd have DREAM JÖB, presumably you really wanted to land that position at the Häagen-Dazs factory.
I like WRY underneath TIG (Notaro); that's perfect.
COSEC looks like an acronym for a secret FBI program, doesn't it.
One place where I shot myself in the foot was having TARIAT and then, as BOTS might do, putting in Secre to precede that, because I couldn't immediately think of other TARIATs. "Oh, I'll just put it in and figure it out later." Not a great strategy. PROLETARIAT it was, as you well know. I also had PART I before PART A, which added some seconds to clean up. A very normal sort of mistake in my case.
Okay, then. See you later!
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DeleteI disagree about your criticism of STARR as an answer. It is exceedingly common for celebrities to have “stage names “ as they used to call them. Ringo Starr has been using the name since before he became famous. He has always been referred that way , with occasional references to his legal name.I never actually heard anyone ever call him Ringo Starkey for example. It’s no different from the stage name Tony Bennett (born Anthony Benedetto) and innumerable others. I was a kid who bought every Beater album and the Beatles drummer was most definitely Ringo Starr to me
Obviously I didn't make myself clear, otherwise you wouldn't have felt the need to explain to me at such length the concept of stage name. Ringo, Ringo Starr, of course very familiar to everyone. I was trying to say that referring to him by the stage surname alone, the drummer Starr, would seem very unusual. This is mostly a matter of how it hits my ear.
DeleteDpoey, boring, pointless.
ReplyDeleteSnooze !
DeleteAs the commenter who occasionally jumps in here to argue for the crossworthiness of musicals, I gotta agree with Rex here. This played like an oversized themeless with a handful of italicized clues. Not bad, just not terribly interesting.
ReplyDelete(A Class Act is definitely the outlier here - musical theater geeks loved it, but it came and went without making much of a sound. A Strange Loop, on the other hand, is a show worth getting to know. It didn't have a very long run on Broadway, but it won several Tonys including Best Musical, and the Pulitzer Prize for drama, the most recent musical to do so.)
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ReplyDeleteI guess this SunPuz did enough for publishing. Makes one say, "Hmm".
Did like the overall puz, the neat lieralisms for the Broadway Musicals. Some were sticky to figure out, looking at you PROLETARIAT.
Found bottom half of puz way thornier than top half. Stuck down there for a bit.
Are all AVERAGE JANES mean girls? I thought they'd be nice. Or is that "MEAN" as in the math AVERAGE. Yeah, I'm sure that's the MEANing.
I always mean to be more OUTDOORSY, but the couch is too dang comfortable.
How do you not clue SMURFS as some variant of "little blue villagers"?
Had FEE_LEST for a bit. Tough to think of what letter would go there. Thankfully MOBIUS was a basic gimmie. We have three -US peeps today, ICARUS, EREBUS, MOBIUS. Just your AVERAGE JoeS, I guess. BABUR needs to change his name.
Hope y'all have a great Sunday!
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Well, I suppose we decided words like plenum were ugly when we decided it was no longer necessary to teach civics on our schools, ushering in an age of civics illiteracy that created the perfect conditions for an authoritarian demagogue to emerge and rule without regard to the Constitution or the rule of law, while trashing with venom all norms of civic and civil engagement.
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Enjoyed it more than OFL but agree with all his comments. I did find it a bit clunky and crosswordese heavy in areas. Also, I hand no idea Rent meant SPLIT until I looked it up.
ReplyDeleteOk. Easy Sunday puzzle but gotta say…did AES and the NYT get a CASSOWARY mixed up with an EMU? The images in my search don’t indicate blue anywhere. On the other hand, those mean old cassowaries…brilliant blue neck.
ReplyDeleteI think you're right, @Beezer. I've been within 15 feet of each of those beasts and I don't recall any blue on the emu. The cassowary, on the other hand, had a glorious blue neck. We were travelling in the north of Queensland and had stopped for ice cream at a seaside pullout when there was an audible gasp among the holidayers (is that a word?) and the proprietor of the ice cream trailer stepped out and informed us in a loud authoritative voice that this was a cassowary that visits occasionally to stroll between the car park and the tables. Remain calm. That's key. Don't panic because that will panic him. Don't approach him. I had my Nikon with me and started snapping pics. "Sir, I'd put that down if I was you". So I did. And that's when I realized this giant prehistoric bird was only about 10 to 15 feet away from me. I know I'm anthropomorphising here, but I swear that damn bird nodded at me, as if to say, "smart move, pal". Then he ambled off toward the beach. Definitely blue. The emus I saw were drab brown.
Delete@ Beezer and Les S, I had no idea about the EMU error. Learned something new - and fascinating too. Actually, I never even read that clue.
DeleteMuch less misdirection than yesterday's slog. Made one huge typo on the first clue; PlatT for PlatH. Threw my time off by a good bit. P.S. I just read "Dombey and Son" for the first time. A remarkable piece of work, very touching and somewhat of a modern (or recognizable) theme. That Dickens guy was pretty, pretty good.
ReplyDeleteSylvia's parents always felt her agreeable brother Warren was the PLATH of least resistance.
ReplyDeletePolice Sergeant: Was the body PROSTRATE when you arrived?
Witness: No. Quite the converse. It was antistrate.
Sergeant: Okay. Then I'll amend my officer's report to have his PROSTRATE taken out.
Don't invite Shakespeare and Stein to dinner together.
Will: AROSE (9D) by any other name . . .
Gertrude: Nonsense! AROSE is AROSE is AROSE.
It theems a little NATHTY (71D) for the conthtructor to place CUTHPS (52D) so close to LITHPS (63D).
I thought the band’s name was just ‘Eagles’. At least that’s what a pedant friend in high school insisted.
ReplyDeleteIt's a little known fact that ICARUS was not done in by hubris. Nope. It was actually his obese brother Al who convinced him that the wings could carry both of them. That belief was a FATAL flaw.
ReplyDeleteHave you tried the new candy for those who like some beef, lettuce, cheese and hot sauce inside a delicious milk chocolate shell? It sounds weird, but trust me, you'll love TACOBARS.
Is PROSTRATE the same as anti-gay?
I'm not too rah-rah about ROOTWORDS.
This puzzle has more PORNO-adjacent words than 50 Shades of Gray. But I'll leave it to one of my fellow SLEAZO perverts to expound on that.
@Lewis stated better than I could what made this a really cool theme execution: It was cool how, in the theme, the puzzle made the solver come up with clue-like answers from answer-like clues. I like how that made me think.
I also loved that so many clues were misdirects. Overall, I'd give it 4 stars. Thanks, Alex Eaton-Salners.
The band name is famously EAGLES not THEEAGLES.
ReplyDeleteThat tripped me up too!
DeleteThanks for the Bill Nighy rec. Not many episodes, but very enjoyable.
ReplyDeleteJust went shopping for SDCARDS to go with the SLR I got for Xmas, so a quick start for me there.
RP, maybe someone can design a graphic for you to show shorthand all the little things we get from you. So far, the “no Star Wars references” and “not all debuts are worthy” sign. Plus Gary could get in with his gunk meter to take up less space on the blog for those prone to scrolling past his screeds (not me, just remembering).
@burtonkd 9:46 AM
DeleteScreeds?! 🤣 Is that what I'm doing? 😂🤣🤡
I assume the short boxers are pups because pups is short for puppies
ReplyDeleteIn addition to BABUR and PLENUM, TIL there are musicals titled "A Class Act" and "A Strange Loop". Who knew? What have I been missing. I also discovered a secondary meaning for SMURFS and found out what an SDCARD is, sort of, as I still don't really know what it is.
ReplyDeletePretty good flow with this one but interrupted by our Very Old Cat who demanded lap time due to the cold (3 F) temperature. He has now gone to burrow under the covers on our bed, also acceptable.
Some themers more successful than others as noted by other comments. Certainly not An Egregious Sunday, AES, but not An Exciting Specimen either. Thanks for a fair amount of fun.
I think SDCARD is perfectly fine. Anyone with a digital camera would inevitably have inserted one into the slot and, at least for me, every card I’ve used has a giant “SD” logo on it.
ReplyDeleteWhere I call foul is with COSEC. If you want the abbreviation in the answer, use the abbreviation “sin” in the clue. If the clue has “sine”, then the answer should be cosecant. My 2¢
I think that the abbreviation "trig" in the clue was meant to signal an abbreviation in the answer.
DeleteI took the fact that “trig” is used in the clue to indicate that we were dealing with an abbreviation. I agree that the NYT does play fast and loose with that convention sometimes.
DeleteI’ve been on a Dickens tour myself in 2025. I’ve read A Tale of Two Cities, David Copperfield, and Great Expectations. Next up is Oliver Twist. 2026 is the year I’m going to try to tackle Proust.
ReplyDeleteDon't forget Bleak House.
DeleteDombey & Son is not the first Dickens anyone would recommend, but presumably Rex has read them all before and is saving up the better ones for dessert. (Better allow at least 2 years for Proust if you're going to go the whole way.)
DeleteWas surprised when I saw that the first sector Rex had finished was the SE, because that was where I had the most trouble. Could not get OCEAN even tho the tune is now my ear worm for the day. Also started with “swEeT” for TREAT and other errors. Got AVERAGEJANES from crosses even tho I didn’t realize at the time that “mean” was used as a math and not a behavioral term. Other than that corner, thought the puzzle was a fun mish-mash of random associations and misdirecting clues. Oh yes, I entered TURNT quickly from prior puzzles, never having heard it in the wild.
ReplyDeleteVery good, Lewis (jersey Boys/CALVES). Loved NEPOTISM and a few others were quite clever. Rex is a bit harsh on this puzzle. I had a major screw up - I put in TACOBell instead of TACOBARS. It took me awhile to correct this. Nothing was jiving in the SE so I knew something had to be wrong. I do Sunday puzzles in pen (early on Saturday mornings) so I was left with an inky mess. I also had ENmesh before ENLACE, but that was corrected quickly when I entered PEARL . I never heard of PLENUM and SMURFS was kind of a guess. Also had MyLES before MILES for some reason. STARR crossing THEEAGLES was cool. (I admit, I wanted Ringo) . Also COSIN before COSEC. Math was a long time ago, I used to be good at it... 800 on the Math SATS an eon ago.
ReplyDeleteAny novel by Len Deighton is worth reading asap!
ReplyDeleteLMTR. Hyphenating "shell-filling" would have deprived that clue of its engaging ambiguity. To Rex's fave theme answers, I hasten to add PROLETARIAT for "producers." Not a word you see in the every day int puz (or anywhere else in the NYT for that matter, so it was kind of cheeky). My sympathies to anyone calling natick on the dreadful SOBA/BABUR crossing ,which the editor ought to have caught. I had just enough exposure to BABUR to guess corre tly, but if I hadn't that letter could have been almost anything. Agree that the cluing voice hefe was refreshing...a fun puzzle for a Sunday change!
ReplyDeleteSee, I went with PUgS initially for a completely different reason - for what is a pug but a toy boxer?
ReplyDeleteCan someone explain why the answer to chess pieces is "men"? Is the queen a man in drag?
ReplyDeleteIt's sorta like when there's a group of people with a few women and you say, Hi Guys!
DeleteFor some reason, that's the word that chessplayers have always used. They could have used "piece", but in chess, a piece usually refers to a knight, bishop, rook, or queen (and perhaps king), something worth more than a pawn anyway, whereas "men" is used to refer to both to pieces and pawns.
Delete"Can someone explain why the answer to chess pieces is "men"? Is the queen a man in drag?" Dan: I can't speak for anywhere but Michigan, but in Michigan we refer to game pieces on most any game as " men."
DeletePlenum is not hard to pronounce. First say PLEN quickly followed by UM. Thus PLEN-UM. Quod erat demonstrand-UM
ReplyDeleteI imagine the Puzzle Writing Bot pulled PLENUM out of its arsenal.
ReplyDeleteI'm a retired children's librarian, so my fingers automatically typed BABaR instead of BABUR. Took me the longest time to see the mistake!
ReplyDeleteSimilarly, my first thought was, "Huh, so that's where Babar (the elephant) got his name."
DeleteEasy-medium for me too. I ambled through this one with just a skosh of resistance. dNA before RNS was my most costly erasure (it took me a while to check the cross).
ReplyDeleteCute, breezy and sporadically amusing, liked it a bit more than @Rex did.
Well, the puztheme had some humor, so that's always a plus for a SunPuz marathon.
ReplyDeleteOther than that, I'd say a pretty easy-ish solvequest, PLATH+SDCARD+PLENUM+EREBUS+BABUR excepted, of course.
staff weeject pick: BUS. Successor to the EREBUS.
Thanx, Mr. Eaton-Salners dude.
... now, for the kind of disorder that only a runtpuz can conduct ...
"Disorderly Conduct" - 7x7 themed runt puzzle:
**gruntz**
M&A
Was hoping to see a comment from Rex about the accuracy of yesterday’s prediction that it would be 0 days since last Star Wars clue. Even funnier that it was the same answer as yesterday with REN
ReplyDeleteThree quick Hidden Diagonal Word (HDW) clues/answers:
ReplyDelete1. Wormhole location
2. Leaky hose sound
3. Actress Thompson of "Sorry to Bother You"
(Answers below)
An ok Sunday puzzle, highlighted thematically by the NEPOTISM entry. Bit of misdirection on the "Rent/SPLIT" pairing, which I sorta liked. Not as fond of A Chorus Line producing REFRAIN; seems to me most refrains are longer than one liners.
Agree with Rex about PUP. I thought PUg for too long, wondering if the constructor thought that boxers and pugs were the same breed. it made me keep thinking that MOBIUS ... had to end with STRIng instead of STRIP, which not only would be wrong, but didn't fit.
Answers to HDW clues:
1. APPLE (off the A in 51A, ALEC--moves towards SW)
2. SSSSS (this string of 5 straight S's begins with the S in 61A, PALS)
3. TESSA (off the T in 29A, AFT; I include it simply because it took me back 4 weeks to Rex's discussion of whether there might be some better than TESSA Thompson of "Sorry to Bother You."
Time for my EXIT. Happy New Year to all!
My favorites: the succinct NEPOTISM after the wordy title clue, the twist on INTO THE WOODS to get OUTDOORSY, and the time it took me to understand what the PROLETARIAT had to do with THE PRODUCERS - I thought the leap from Broadway to the means of production was inspired. I also liked the center cross of the soda fountain treats of MALTS and (banana) SPLIT, but am not sure why SALSA is trying to elbow in.
ReplyDelete@Carola. I said in my main comment that I would try not to say anything unless I had something nice to say and you've afforded me that opportunity. The equivalency of Into the Woods and OUTDOORSY was really quite clever as was PROLETARIAT for The Producers,
DeleteHad the PLT so pre-coffee brain went with Plato before Plath 😆 ahh you learn something new everyday.
ReplyDeleteAha! Yesterday I wanted the author Seton to be Alex. “Isn’t there an Alex Seton,” I mused? But no, it’s Alex Eaton-Salners. Enjoyed your puzzle a lot, Alex! I was sad to see the two-star rating from @Rex. I actually am sad to see any star ratings for crossword puzzles. I find the idea inappropriate for the genre. Not sure why - probably just personal bias, like Rex’s objection to PLENUM. Come to think of it, it’s not just puzzles -I just PLEN, UM, don’t like star ratings for creative work. I prefer the stars in the sky where they belong, or in product reviews where they can keep you from making unwise purchases.
ReplyDeleteI see no problem with AVERAGE JANES. Sure, it took me a minute or ten to get the proper “Mean” meaning, but the idea that there can be AVERAGE Joes but not AVERAGE JANES seems a bit, hmm, genderist. (I prefer that to sexist. Hey, and while I’m at it, you’d think the gender known as “the fairer sex” wouldn’t be the one with so many WEARERs of makeup.)
Thanks, @Lewis, for calling attention to the extra “twist” in the theme clues. A little poke just to make sure we’re paying attention? That and so many other non-theme twisty clues made for a refreshing Sunday puzzle. Take “Prop for a proposal” - not an extraneous prop like a glass of champagne in which to put a ring, but something with which to physically prop oneself. I loved the matchups of “How to Succeed in Business Without Really Trying” with NEPOTISM, and “A Chorus Line” with REFRAIN. And “Struggles with sibilant sounds” is a LISPers nightmare - talk about mean.
It’s not often on a Sunday we are GREETed with words like SORBONNE and PROLETARIAT and MOBIUS STRIP and OUTDOORSY and my favorite entry of the day, ROOT WORDS. Yay etymology!
I did want LULLABYe spelled thusly, and the POCs reared their ugly heads hear and there - special side-eyes (yes, both of them) to TINGES and PASTS. But I’ll forgive those nits to get TREATS like a banana SPLIT crossing MALTS. Okay, I RANON far too long. Happy Four Colly Birds Day!
@A, I agree wholeheartedly re the stars. Anyone simply reading the comments on this blog would instantly grok that the solve experience is subjective. Today is an excellent example. Some really enjoyed it, some limed a few things, some thought it “meh,” and some followed the advice of Thumper from “Bambi,” and said nothing at all.
DeletePleasantly surprised that the NYT would allow the correct answer to “producers.”
ReplyDeleteThanks for the Babur note. The Mughal empire is fascinating.
I managed to get the theme backwards at first... I thought ROSETTA STONE was the name of the play, etc. After a while I was thinking: I know I'm not a fan of musicals, but I don't recognize any of these! My bad.
ReplyDeleteA lot of names, but thankfully a lot of gimmes: PLATH DESI STARR ALEC ERMA RAVI. ARI should have been a gimme but I managed to type in IRA.
I had QUORUM before PLENUM... they have very similar meanings and I hadn't realized plenum was something other than a physical space. COSEC was tough even though Math was my best subject. I wanted ARCSIN which is actually the opposite of sine in a different sense.
I took my first computer course in 1977 (language: PL-1), and the first thing they taught us was "Never ever use GOTO!!" Some years later I had to do a bit of code in some awful language... could have been Basic... and I had to use GOTO. I felt dirty!
My mum, no wiser or less wise than other mums, I suppose, used to tell me that if I didn’t have anything nice to say, I shouldn’t say anything at all …
ReplyDeleteIt’s difficult. I’ll try my best, but I can’t promise I won’t comment on other people’s comments. I may have something nice to say there.
Les S, your mother raised you properly. Please feel free to reply as you wish to mine. It will give you an opportunity for splenic relief. I’m pretty picky on Sundays, but really liked this one. Sorry you didn’t.
DeleteWhat fascinates me about the Crossworld is the subjectivity of it all. And the power of words. A single entry sometimes can completely ruin a solver’s opinion and level of solving enjoyment. And here we are in this neighborhood often disagreeing, but with civility and often great humor. If only we could always agree to disagree when necessary and then find ways to come together despite differences.
Just finished the puzzle while NPR was on in the background so feel obligated to mention ARI Shapiro is no longer a public radio longer. Not that the clue is wrong, just reads different now. Also, no mention that the Days Since Star Wars Answer counter remains at 0? Came here for that alone!
ReplyDeleteI put down Ringo as the Fab Four drummer at 32A and stubbornly stuck with it even though it caused all sorts of problems in the NW corner. Who else could it possibly be, I thought? That it might be STARR didn't occur to me until I had the rest of the puzzle done and I resorted to Google for Aisha Tyler. Made me feel kind of stupid. But I liked the theme answers a lot better than Rex did..
ReplyDeleteNever mind re: Star Wars counter. Missed it on first reading. Love it! (The counter, not the clue of course.)
ReplyDeleteFriday was as good as it got this week. My only issue with BABUR was what that second vowel was going to be. Thanks to playing Scrabble and the SB words like PLENUM are familiar. Slap an S on that thing and you've got a bingo.
ReplyDelete"How to Make Musicals Boring." Musicals are already boring. This puzzle at least made the titles seem interesting.
ReplyDeleteDidn't really enjoy this one. The fill felt pretty gunky and awkward, with a ton of overly cutesy clues that weren't particularly fun. I normally enjoy a punny theme way more than Rex does, but this one fell really flat. The fact that they were musicals taken literally didn't actually affect solving in any way, it was more of a "teehee" for the creator.
ReplyDeleteRolling my eyes all over while doing this puzzle. But for a crossword puzzle that uses musicals for its theme I found the clue for OCEAN to be just plain wrong. In Anything Goes the setting is a ship! The ship is on the ocean. That’s like saying the setting for any other musical is LAND. Utterly dopey.
ReplyDeleteAbsolutely correct, @J F Norris. I had to leave that blank until I filled in EWAD ME, SENSED, and AVERAGE. Then I growled and rationalized that the ship was on the OCEAN.
DeleteWill Shortz says that Alex Eaton-Salners is an in-house attorney for Sandisk. Knowing that makes SD CARD feel a little too much like product placement.
ReplyDeleteA believe that the PUPS is that all dogs are puppies, so the “short” in the clue would be a shortening of puppies, or pups.
ReplyDeleteI've always had trouble with PROSTRATE and Prone, and Supine too. Never know which is face-up and which face-down, and M-W not too clear on whether PROSTRATE and Prone are synonyms or not.
ReplyDeleteI made a real hash of the SE of this puzzle; got TACObell wrong (Hi, @alicepollard), realized error when I had to put in the A from AVERAGE, but never got straight after that.
Somebody at this blog commentary once provided a neat mnemonic: if you're Supine, that means you're on you're Spine.
DeleteThus supine is face up. Prone is the other one: face down.
Setting for Abything Goes
ReplyDeletea ship on the ocean Make it ocean.
Since the ship is on the ocean, I see nothing wrong with it. Crosswords are puzzles with clues not definitions etc. close enough for crosswords.
People complained about the Eaglet because one of the founders insisted there is no the. Well that reminds me of people who say Lego pieces is correct and Legos is not. Millions of people say the Eagles and Legos and have been doing so for many years decades. Popular speech wins. What the founder in one case and the corporation in the other think is irrelevant Wikipedia mentions (the) Eagles issue but the first 2 words in the entry are The Eagles!
I liked the puzzle more than Rex.
True the Rosetta Stone was famously used to help understand Hieroglyphics (in the early 28th Century)etc. but the three writings were put on said stone over 2 millennia ago. So I didn’t see Rex’s point.
I thought it was a good puzzle.
I thought the theme was clever and well-executed and the cluing was stellar. (Pop group! Stock holder!) I figured you were going to bitch about taser and SD card--that's just you being you--but you don't like plenum? What a lovely word, with both legislative and air-duct uses. I mean, what can you really have against Erebus? (At least it wasn't "a rebus," har.) You're dissing Michelle Obama for encouraging people to be decent to each other?
ReplyDeleteSylvia Plath! Seals! Möbius strips! Batten down the hatches! One of These Nights!
This was my favorite Sunday in a long time. I think you got up on the wrong side of the bed this morning.
A-MEN, @David K!
DeleteDOMBEY AND SON or NICOLAS NICKLEBY will sour you on Dickens right at the outset. I’d recommend MARTIN CHUZZLEWIT or BLEAK HOUSE or LITTLE DORRIT, three of the best. Or PICKWICK PAPERS, early and easy and fun.
ReplyDeleteDidn't get the paper yd due to "snow" (really???) and it came late today so... I haven't read you all, but did anyone else notice the connection between Alex working for Sandisk and 6A? If so, apologies for the dupe.
ReplyDeleteOtherwise, easy, liked NEPOTISM and FIELD TRIP a lot! Did we not just have YENTE (or maybe that was the NYer)? Also liked MASTS bec "brig" had me thinking boat jail instead of just, y'know boat.
I know the band is THE EAGLES but it was hard to suss out with the the there.
@Smith. Just pulled the SD card from my camera and guess what?, it's not a SanDisk. Surpriuse! there are lots of companies making SD cards. Your objection to AES working for SanDisk and clueing SD card is like objecting to some constructor who works for Toyota clueing something with four wheels as an automobile.
DeleteI had no idea Anything Goes has anything to do with the OCEAN.
ReplyDeleteKudos to Rex for including the Sinatra - a great version of a great song.
Puedo encargarme de eso por ti.
ReplyDeleteI thought the theme was very cute here. It was really fun figuring out the answer to each one. The rest of the fill felt pretty awkward too often, but it went quickly. Good puzzle.
SMURFS should only be blue people. All other uses are wrong.
I have a latte in my left hand at the moment so I guess I'm an espresso with spume WEARER on my FEEBLEST side.
I knew a former alley cat named MOBIUS and his second name was SCRATCH rather than STRIP, and yes, he was all predator and kinda scary.
Vanilla MALTS are #1.
I'm really debating if I should put BORSCHT on my favorite word list. I love saying it.
If your strings are a TWANGin' then yer not pluckin' 'em good.
❤️ [Some summers]
People: 15
Places: 3
Products: 6
Partials: 8
Foreignisms: 5
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Gary's Grid Gunk Gauge: 37 of 140 (26%)
Funny Factor: 7 🙂
Tee-Hee: NASTY ORALLY ERECT.
Uniclues:
1 Hiring your brother in law to do, "That's what she said" jokes.
2 Why there's no pizza in the Beatles' green room.
3 School outing that never ends.
4 Farm hands?
1 ROSETTA STONE NEPOTISM
2 STARR LET ME EAT IT UP
3 MOBIUS STRIP FIELD TRIP
4 OUTDOORSY PROLETARIAT
My Fascinating Crossword Uniclue Keepsake from Last Year: Why I wanted to go to camp. GIRL TENTS? WOW!
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Nice screed today. 😂
Delete@Whatsername 10:18 PM
Deletea: a lengthy discourse
b: an informal piece of writing (such as a personal letter)
c: a ranting piece of writing
I'm assuming I'm ... C?
Thank you so much @Rex for today’s In Memoriam. Condolences to all who mourn the loss of anyone, certainly including today’s featured family members. My avatar, the dear “OC” rarely left my husband’s aide during his final months. It’s been 7 years and I still miss them both.
ReplyDeleteToday’s very clever theme took what would normally be an answer and instead had us find an answer that would normally be a clue. My favorite was NEPOTISM, but the entire theme worked. This was pure Alex Eaton-Salners, and thoroughly enjoyable.
Today I learned a new meaning for PLENUM. You’d think after 40+ years in law, government and politics I’d know that one but no.
Growing up, we had a coal furnace until my early teens. When it was replaced, I learned that a natural gas system needed a PLENUM chamber where the gas accumulates before ignition. My post-solve definition check left me thinking that perhaps the legislative/full membership usage is more British than American. I shall investigate further.
I also learned that SEALS (and whales) were formed of the fingers of the Inuit sea goddess, Sedna (or Sadna or Sena). Bonus points for me! I also just got a text from my daughter who knows more about mythology than anyone I have ever met or known well telling me that she is today years old when she learned of Sedna/Sadna/Sena. That was a shocker.
This one had a bunch of great clues too. I was doing laundry across the patio at the kids’s house and opened the puzzle on my phone while I waited. Didn’t get far because I don’t see small print well. I misread the clue for MASTS as “Big pair,” and my one and only thought was “Surely not!!” @Gary J, surely that deserves a “tee-hee” (reference last week’s te-hee, tepee comments). Anyway, when I got back across to my tiny house and my laptop and saw “Brig pair.” I was still “asea” apparently and thought of throwing a drunken sailor in the brig and put in cells. Sheesh. TASERS gave me the A almost immediately to alert me to my error.
Alex Eaton-Salners is a favorite constructor of mine. For me, today was the best Sunday in a very long time. Not gonna lie, I actually prefer a Sunday with some easy fill because I look forward to Sunday for the theme. If the general fill is awful it detracts from my solving enjoyment enormously. Mr. E-S has balanced the grid well today. What fun!
CDilly52 7:47 PM
DeletePLENUM as a government thing was new to me also, but I used it regularly in reference to overhead chases used for hiding plumbing and ductwork. Weird how different those meanings are for the same word.
anything with Bill Nighy has my vote!
ReplyDeleteA Strange Loop is well worth your time if you get a chance to see it.
ReplyDeleteWay back some time in the late 80s-early 90s I think, knitting mobius loop scarves was a big thing and it introduced me to the form. The shape fascinated me so much that she taught me to knit on circular needles just so I could make one. Loved seeing it in the puzzle.
DeleteGlen Frey and Don Henley were emphatic that the name of the band was Eagles. Not the Eagles. And the band currently continues this. There is no “the “.
ReplyDeleteScrolled all the way down to see if anyone else noticed!
DeleteEinstein isn't "The Wiz", he's "The Whiz" if he's anything.
ReplyDelete