Relative difficulty: Easy-Medium
THEME: "Second in Command" — familiar phrases where the second letter of one of the words has been moved to the first ("command"?) position, creating wacky phrases, clued wackily (i.e. "?"-style):
Theme answers:
- SPANISH RAMADA (20A: Certain vacation booking in Madrid?) (from "Spanish Armada")
- OCTILLION DRESSES (28A: Billions and billions of boutique items?) (from "cotillion dresses")
- ACME TO THE RESCUE (44A: What Wile E. Coyote thinks before his new purchase backfires?) (from "came to the rescue")
- DANCING WITH THE TSARS (63A: Activity for a nimble-footed noble in Imperial Russia?) (from Dancing With the Stars)
- EGOCENTRIC MODEL (79A: Figure who might say "Look at me on the cover of all these fashion magazines!"?) (from "geocentric model")
- LESSER OF TWO VEILS (96A: What bridesmaids might point out as the inferior choice while shopping?) (from "lesser of two evils")
- UNCLEAR POTION (109A: Contents of a murky cauldron? (twice!)) (from "nuclear option")
In Greek mythology, Semele (/ˈsɛmɪli/; Ancient Greek: Σεμέλη, romanized: Semélē), or Thyone (/θaɪˈoʊni/; Ancient Greek: Θυώνη, romanized: Thyṓnē), was the youngest daughter of Cadmus and Harmonia, and the mother of Dionysus by Zeus (her-own great-grandfather). [...] In one version of the myth, Semele was a priestess of Zeus, and on one occasion was observed by Zeus as she slaughtered a bull at his altar and afterwards swam in the river Asopus to cleanse herself of the blood. Flying over the scene in the guise of an eagle, Zeus fell in love with Semele and repeatedly visited her secretly.
Zeus's wife, Hera, a goddess jealous of usurpers, discovered his affair with Semele when she later became pregnant. Appearing as an old crone, Hera befriended Semele, who confided in her that her lover was actually Zeus. Hera pretended not to believe her, and planted seeds of doubt in Semele's mind. Curious, Semele asked Zeus to grant her a boon. Zeus, eager to please his beloved, promised on the River Styx to grant her anything she wanted. She then demanded that Zeus reveal himself in all his glory as proof of his divinity. Though Zeus begged her not to ask this, she persisted and he was forced by his oath to comply. Zeus tried to spare her by showing her the smallest of his bolts and the sparsest thunderstorm clouds he could find. Mortals, however, cannot look upon the gods without incinerating, and she perished, consumed in a lightning-ignited flame.
Zeus rescued the fetal Dionysus, however, by sewing him into his thigh (whence the epithet Eiraphiotes, 'insewn', of the Homeric Hymn). A few months later, Dionysus was born. This leads to his being called "the twice-born". (wikipedia)
- 32D: Like many of Horace's works (ODIC) — my fingers leapt to write ODES, but then my brain was like "whoa whoa whoa ... sorry, fellows, but you're gonna have to write ODIC ... I know, I know, it's awful, but it says 'Like many of Horace's works,' not 'Many of Horace's works,' so it's gotta be an adjective." My fingers were then tortured into writing more unpleasant things, like IAMSO, OXO, RONI and CANI, one right after the other. A truly awful patch. The opposite of a soul patch. A soulless patch.
- 35D: Strengths (POTENCIES) — can you pluralize that word? I guess so. Marijuana strains have different POTENCIES. OK, I just needed context. I'm good now.
- 102A: Naked ___ jaybird (ASA) — I know this isn't clued as a person's name (ASA Butterfield, for example, or [Botanist Gray], that used to be a favorite), but if you imagine it as a personal name, then you have a nice little foursome in that row: ASA, MARY, REY, and TRISHA
- 72D: Reminiscent of a certain French author's work (ZOLAESQUE) — a word immortalized by the crossword documentary Wordplay (20 years old next year! Just like my blog! Not unrelated!). Trip Payne, solving on stage, upon finally getting ZOLAESQUE during the ACPT championship puzzle, disbelievingly: "Oh dear god!" (I'm either quoting exactly or paraphrasing)
- 109A: Contents of a murky cauldron? (twice!) (UNCLEAR POTION) — I keep reading this as UNCLE ARPOTION. Who would name their kid 'Arpotion'? You'd have to call him "Arpo." But then people would think you were saying "Harpo." Some names are better left to fantasy novels.
- 114A: Parking spot? (SEAT) — I was thinking "seat" as in your ass, but think it's where you put your ass ... when you sit (i.e. "park," if you're being slangy).
- 116A: Sargasso Sea quartet (ESSES) — a "letteral" clue; the clue is self-referential, pointing to a letter in one of its words—or in this case, in two of its words: the letter "S" (ESS) appears four times in the name "Sargasso Sea." So there is a "quartet" of "S"s (ESSES). I had the first "S" in this answer and wanted to write in ISLES. "Just four? They must be a noteworthy grouping."
- 84D: Approximately 33.8 fluid ounces (ONE LITER) — not sure why I got it into my head to give this one a British spelling (-RE), but I did. I also spelled RAZES with an "S" (RASES), which isn't even British, but kinda feels like it (you know, like how "-IZE" is spelled "-ISE" in Britain). Not sure where this British and pseudoBritish spelling instinct is coming from. Might be all the Guardian cryptics I've been doing.
- 65D: Goldie who won a 1969 Oscar for "Cactus Flower" (HAWN) — cannot see her name without thinking of the time I realized that my wife says "HAWN" just like she says "HORN," only she did not believe that she pronounces them the same way at all, so I tried to make a video of her saying both words, but mostly we're both just crying laughing ...
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ReplyDeleteLiked it a bit better than OFL did, * * * _ _
I read LotR so long ago that Samwise GAMGEE (23A) was totally unknown to me. I got it from crosses, and then when I didn't get the happy music looked it up and found it to be correct. I also had second thoughts about the NOE Valley (53A) x OUTFACE (huh?!?) cross, but that checked out too. Finally found that the happy music was withheld due to a stupid typo.
Most enjoyable Sunday for me in a long while. Caught on to the trick with SpanishRAMADA/Armada, and thought LESSEROFTWOVEILS and DANCINGWITHTHETSARS were brilliant as clued. Only cheat was to get NOE (Valley) because I foolishly had "parsimmon" instead of PERSIMMON. Thought EGOCENTRICMODEL was too straightforward to fit the theme until Rex showed "geocentric model."
ReplyDeleteI AGREE!~
DeleteI spelled it as PaRSIMMON too. took me a while to catch that one!
DeleteJoyless slog. They payoff didn’t compensate for the bad fill. Yet another Sunday puzzle that left a bad taste.
ReplyDeleteIsnt every Yeshiva student a Jew? 74A. I find that confusing or is it trying to be funny/ironic?
ReplyDeleteI guess Yeshiva University has some non-Jewish students? That’s what an internet search reveals. And if it were any yeshiva it wouldn’t be capitalized.
DeleteYep. The capital Y did it.
DeleteEven with the capital Y, it should not have been “many a.“ It should have been “virtually every” or “quite possibly all”. That was a ridiculous clue. Many an Israeli, okay. A reasonable answer to “many a Yashiva student” would be SERIOUSJEW, but that’s more than 3 letters.
DeletePlayed them in basketball. Favorite cheer was "In the summer you sweat, in the winter yeshiva,yeshiva ,yeshiva.
DeletePlayed them once in basketball. Favorite cheer was,
Delete"In the summer you sweat," "In the winter Yeshiva,Yeshiva,Yeshiva.
I got my Master's degree at Yeshiva university and I am not a Jew. I'm very much a shiksa. Quite a lot of us in the grad program at Einstein College of Medicine were not...so in my opinion, a lousy clue.
DeleteOf course the four words I’ve never heard of (PASEO, GAMGEE, NOE and OUTFACE) form two crosses. I made a nice mess of those sections (ACCURSE gets an honorable mention as well).
ReplyDeleteI agree with Rex that the theme didn’t have enough pizzazz to hold one’s attention throughout a Sunday sized grid. CAME TO THE RESCUE doesn’t seem to really mean anything on a stand alone basis. That one may be an outlier.
There’s nothing really inherently wrong with the puzzle, it just seemed a little flat - so two and a half stars seems about right. It will be interesting to see if a consensus develops that it was actually better than I perceive it to be.
Consensus conshmensus
DeleteI'd drop it to 2 stars just for the abysmal short fill Rex mentions. So many crumby three and four letter "words" just shoved into the grid to make things work. Not fun, just a slog of "what now with this crappy clue." Why do I even bother looking at the Sunday puzzles, I could be staring at the sun
DeleteThree comments, and already the entire spectrum ("most enjoyable" to "joyless slog") is already represented! Gotta love it. This was cutesie and a medium-easy solve for me.
ReplyDelete- NW corner: GAMGEE held me up, this PPP. When you also have ODIE (which I knew) and PASEO (which I guessed correctly), that's not a good corner.
- 4D, PASEO: I knew the Toyota model. Sorry, but the car does not evoke a leisurely evening walk or stroll. Most cars are named to evoke speed or power or nimbleness, of course.
- 32D: Also ODES for a spell!
- 65D Goldie clue: Unbelievably, I had never seen Cactus Flower but just the previous evening, I happened upon it on TCM. They say coincidences don't really happen, but I must disagree...
- 80D, Comically ridiculous: I had LOONY first, which held things up for a while.
- A puzzle with two Star Wars references (104A, 7D) can't be all bad!
Hope everyone has a very Happy Thanksgiving!
That's the very definition of coincidence!
DeleteOh, so good to see Trenton back after a long absence. He was prolific for a period, with nine puzzles in 2019, and eight in both 2020 and 2021. I love his craftsmanship and the high bar he sets.
ReplyDeleteLook at today’s puzzle. Sure, it’s easy to find words that become other words when you flip the first two letters, if they’re short. Even in today’s puzzle there are non-theme words that do that – ACT, IRA, NOE, EMTS, USB, AWS, REN, ITT.
But try coming up with longer ones like Trenton did, i.e. RAMADA, COTILLION, OPTION, and GEOCENTRIC. How did he do that? Wow!
Then he had to make phrases including those words, phrases that fit symmetry, that is, the seven theme answers had to include three pairs of entries, each with the same number of letters. Double wow!
And, for me, there was more to love. Lovely answers (MIFF, ACCURSE, FINITE, ZOLAESQUE, MADAME TUSSAUDS, PERSIMMON), a sweet dook (REDANT), a TIL (HEAVE TO), and a rare-in-crosswords five-letter semordnilap (STRAP).
I started this puzzle with a smile, Trenton, when I saw your name, and ended it the same way after a splendid outing. Thank you, and please, don’t be a stranger!
I enjoyed this a lot more than @REX did and found it easyish. "Dirty look" could mean either one, right? Ogling or stink-eyeing. So that ambiguity is built into the clue. Especially enjoyed "DANCINGWITHTHETSARS" and "UNCLEARPOTION". Nuclear Option is so in-the-language these days, nice to see how it can be twisted up. Also liked "LESSEROFTWOVEILS". I found this one to have a fair amount of whoosh, so it was a fun 23:50 for me! Thanks, Trenton for a terrific, fully-themed Sunday morning puzzle!
ReplyDeleteYes, I was definitely thinking the “dirty” look was an intentional misdirect, with the answer of the ogling variety, or perhaps come-hither.
DeleteAlso, Rex, it’s difficult to imagine you’ve never heard the phrase “drop trou“?
@Stillwell. Rex said "I have never heard / seen it outside crosswords". Neither have I.
DeleteYes, I read him say that, but thought it might be one of these sort of conversations:
Delete“I’ve never heard the term trou.”
“Really? What about ‘drop trou’?”
“Oh right, of course!”
Les S. More
DeleteI never use the phrase drop TROU but I have a friend who uses the term, often when telling a story from his college days ( we are in our ‘70’s) . I have heard it elsewhere but don’t remember where and I think also without the drop. Every time it appears in the Times crossword there is a discussion. But it is a thing. It skews Boomer and older I think. My friend was a college football player . It isn’t cutesy to him but
"Drop TROU" isn't exactly an everyday expression, but it's not unheard of, either. I've been familiar with it for most of my life, and I'm well over 60.
DeleteI agree with Lewis. And as usual I enjoyed the puzzle way more than OFL.
ReplyDeleteTwo points deserve mention, IMO. First, PASEO will not be unknown to anyone with a Spanish language background or, I think, many people who’ve lived in the Southwest. And second, NOE Valley is well known to San Franciscans and many visitors. (I used to live in SoCal, and my daughter lived near Noe Valley.) Both of those answers are perfectly valid, and they provide teachable moments for those who didn’t know them before.
Trenton Charlson once made a puzzle in which the only vowel in the answers was the letter I. I mention this because it gives me an excuse to bring up a 1994 Sunday by Cathy Allis in which the only vowel was E, and which had one of my favorite puzzle titles of all time:
ReplyDeleteELAND.
PASEO / GAMGEE = cruel, esp. since I know paseo as the walkway not the walk itself. Liked the puzzle better than OFL.
ReplyDeleteThe video is a riot!
Agree with OFL as well as I’m sure 99% of only the most die hard solvers keeping their streaks going, PASSEO:GAMGEE CROSSING is as bad as it gets. Poor puzzle. Not funny, not fun.
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DeleteI disagree
Spanish is the second most spoken language in the US. Also millions more, like me, know many common words in Spanish ( I do not speak it). PASEO was a gimme. A lot more than 1% know the word.
LESSEROFTWOVEILS made me chuckle, but none of the other theme answers did much for me.
ReplyDeleteI did enjoy the long downs, even if ZOLAESQUE feels a bit contrived.
GAMGEE/PASEO is a brutal cross.
Yesterday the Beautiful South, today the Housemartins…Rex is on a Paul Heaton heater! IAMSO in approval!
Reminds me of the “Lesser of two Weevils” joke in Master and Commander!
DeleteThe cotton farmer found two insects gnawing at one of his cotton stalks. There was a big fat one, and a little skinny one. The little one was the lesser of two weevils.
DeleteTIL that THE MESOZOIC ERA and TRIASSIC PERIOD have the same number of letters (and both begin with T, so they work with BAITS).
ReplyDeleteAnd MOLIERIAN has the same number of letters as ZOLAESQUE, and share the O, L, and E.
Nice job avoiding other longish answers that could also be clued as themers. There are short ones like METS-EMTS and ESE-SEE. And a questionable plural in NITERS-INTERS, but no solid long answers I can see.
Liked the theme; as Rex points out there were some fill issues. 3.72 stars.
Hey All !
ReplyDeleteNice puz. Took a minute to figure out the reversing two-letters of a common thing to get the answer trick. Then managed to get all the ones with the last word reversed, so was trying to figure out what an EGOCENTRIC OMDEL was. Har. Took me until I got the OCTILLION for COTILLION one to see that the front word also came to play.
As for counting -illions, I know up to Vigintillion, which is twelve past OCTILLION. Unsure if higher ones have names. OCTILLION is, naturally, eighth.
Here in Las Vegas (the City, not The Strip) we have a few street names with PASEO in them. I believe it means "path" en español. Not sure where stroll comes in. Maybe it is stroll in Spanish. @pablo?
Another Pangram today, although I think it might not have been intentional. You use words that fit around your Themers. If you end up with a Gram, even better.
Have a side eye to THE EYE. ZOLAESQUE was neat. Good ole OXO reappearing, nice to see it. Had cAnSO for IAMSO for a bit, but realized I had CANI also in, so I didn't think there'd be that egregious a dupe. suV-ATV. tisTRUE-HOWTRUE. Had ___TITS in for POSTITS, that got ten year old me a chuckle. 😁
Had a three-letter FWE, and since my streak went kaput the other day, hit Check Puzzle. Had AvA/OvIC, even though I had the correct ADA in most of the puz. NOa/PaRSIMMON, was actually surprised by that E. And sillily thought an A at SEMELa/ESSaS, as thought the answer would be a Spanish word for S's.
If you read that whole thing, that's amazing you didn't GO PAST anything. I will now EXIT OUT FACE with a GOOFY MIFF. (That sounded almost Jabberwockyesque. [Stick that in a puz!])
Have a great Sunday!
Six F's - AMEN
RooMonster
DarrinV
Yep, "dar un PASEO" , take a walk, take a stroll.
DeleteI thought there were seven legendary kings of Ancient Rome…
ReplyDeleteVII is roman numeral 7.
DeleteVillager
This puzzle had some serious try-hard energy. I usually like a Sunday with a little bite, but not if it's at the expense of more elegant clues and answers. I was able to figure it out, but more of a slog than a fun discovery.
ReplyDeleteWondering if anyone had REn originally for the Jedi trained by Luke Skywalker? I'm sure those in the know would scoff at such a thing, but it's a more recognizable Star Wars-y name than REY. The fact that REN existed elsewhere in the puzzle fixed it for me, and of course I would have eventually realized that THE EnE is not a thing.
Fine way to spend 38:07 of my Sunday morning I guess.
Yep. I had REN before REY. Much more recognizable, as you say.
DeleteThis was fine. Any Sunday that doesn't require searching the grid for a typo works for me!
ReplyDeleteThat's my criterion for Sunday too!
DeleteA scheduling glitch had the Yeshiva U. football team playing Notre Dame. Yeshiva wasn't too good. For one thing, players were chosen based on an essay test. So at halftime Notre Dame was ahead 85-0. The Yeshiva coach, in desperation, told his quarterback to give the signals in Yiddish. So on the next play he started yelling "finf, zeks, . . ." And the big 350-lb nose guard for Notre Dame looked up, shook his head, and muttered "gornisht helfn."
ReplyDelete1. A big serving of dried poblanos
ReplyDelete2. Indian dish made of hearts, livers and spleens
3. Enough topping for your pancakes
(answers below)
My morning meditation practice begins my daily routine of in look, then OUTFACE.
How to say "pretty please?" to a pack of Italian dogs: CANI CANI
Egs: I tried a taste of your alphabet soup, but I only ate one letter.
Mrs. Egs: Well, the only missing letter is the one that comes between U and W.
Egs: Must have been AVIATE.
Yesterday we learned about the decapod with three claws (PRAWN). Today we get the beasts with three rear ends that apparently lived in the TRIASSICPERIOD.
I agree with @Lewis 100%, including on how hard it is to come up with longer words that survive the flip of the first two letters. I have always liked the vibe of Trenton Charlson's puzzles, and this was no exception. Thanks for a great, funny experience, Trenton.
1. PLATEOFANCHOS
2. ORGANJOSH
3. AMPLESYRUP
@egsforbreakfast 9:34 AM
DeleteGood stuff as always big guy.
PASEO got me stuck for a bit. I’ve never heard of it (not surprising). However, I have not seen it in any puzzles before this one. Boo for that fill.
ReplyDeleteThe VW PASEO is a long-distant memory.
Delete@tht. It's been a while since I've seen one on the road but I believe it was wearing a Toyota badge.
DeleteFWIW, I also had "LITRE" instead of "LITER" -- a conscious decision because I had put in ROAM instead of ROVE and it seemed more practical for the crossings to have -ar- and -me-. It wasn't until St. Pat crystallized in my mind that I fixed it. Perhaps because I was trying to make "Pied Piper" fit into the St. Pat's boxes. All this without even a cocktail. Always feel somewhat crazy when you report your misdirects.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Lewis completely today. I thought this was a clever puzzle, and fun, and included some lively fill. I did have GAMGES/PASSO at first, though; then, somehow, PASEO looked more "right," probably because I grew up in Tucson and it finally clicked that there are streets with names like Paseo del Bac.
ReplyDeleteThanks, Trenton, for an enjoyable Sunday puzzle!
Blah - hard to look forward to Sundays like this
ReplyDelete(Let's see if I can post a comment this time -- Blogger keeps telling me it can't publish now, try again later. Otherwise, it's the old cache clearing operation, which I have to look up every time how to do.)
ReplyDeleteHonestly, I enjoyed Rex's write-up a whole lot more than the puzzle. (Loved the video of him and Penelope -- that's her name, yes? -- in stitches over HAWN!) Anyway, as he points out, there's a lot of crap fill -- he used the word "crumminess", a good but underused word for sure.
And HOW TRUE when he says some words are just eminently hateable; they should EXIT the LANGUAGE forthwith. For him it was TROU, which I've heard uttered in the wild ("drop TROU", something Dr. Pimple Popper says she wishes her patients wouldn't do without advance warning). For me, the non-word RONI was what wrinkled my nose, even though it was easy enough. Commercials, great. Do people in NOE Valley eat lots of Rice-A-Roni? I hear it's a real treat in the area.
Let's see, what else. OUTFACE? Bah. Oh, and boo to the GAMGEE-PASEO cross, for me a ridiculous Natick. Rex exhorts his fellow constructors to polish their puzzles as far as possible. Mr. Charlson is very experienced and accomplished I believe, but I think this one could have used a little more elbow grease.
The theme itself was mildly cute, even GOOFY, but very simple and plain. The OCTILLION elicited a slight grudging smile, and evoked many fine Spelling Bee memories of "nonillion" and, even better, "nonillionth", a word I find I'm constantly in need of. (What in Sam hill are you doing, Sam?)
There are some good long Down answers, e.g., ZOLAESQUE. Was it only yesterday that we also had a pangram?
Have a good day and a great week!
people in NOE Valley don’t eat lots of Rice-A-Roni - it’s a San Francisco treat.
DeleteObviously I wasn't asking seriously, but: I thought NOE Valley was in San Francisco?
Delete"Drop trou" is a phrase I have heard in real life.
ReplyDeleteHow often does a crossword include every letter of the alphabet like today’s? Just curious.
ReplyDeleteOk. May be the ocd editor in me, but why hasn’t this grammatical mismatch been called out? “Activity for a nimble-footed noble”(SINGULAR) and the solve: dancing with the TSARS (PLURAL)!!! Easy fix here… should have been noble-footed NOBLES, imho!
ReplyDeleteDoesn’t need fixing. One noble can dance with many tsars.
DeleteThere is no error. A noble can dance with tsars.
DeleteHuh? A child (singular) can play with dolls (plural). A clown can juggle balls. Those don't have to agree.
DeleteThanks to everyone for clarifying!
DeleteFun puzzle. Favorite themers: DANCING WITH THE TSARS and LESSER OF TWO VEILS. Always a delight to see CHE Guevara who hated capitalism, so capitalism took CHE’s picture and put it on a T-shirt and sold a bunch of them to useful idiots. Thinking POST ITS right by NOTES was intended.
ReplyDeleteI like your point on CHE Guevara, but today it's a different CHE!
DeleteYes, the narrator of the musical *Evita* (the character known as **Che**) is explicitly based on **Ernesto "Che" Guevara**.
DeleteKey points that confirm this:
- In Andrew Lloyd Webber and Tim Rice's original 1976 concept album and the subsequent stage musical, the character is named **Che** and is written as a cynical, sarcastic everyman commentator who interacts with Eva Perón throughout her rise and fall.
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- Che functions as a Greek chorus–like figure and a ideological counterpoint to Eva and Perón, representing revolutionary/left-wing criticism of Peronism. This mirrors the real Che Guevara’s later harsh criticisms of Juan Perón after Perón returned from exile in the 1950s (Guevara saw Perón as bourgeois and insufficiently revolutionary).
- Visually and in performance tradition, Che is almost always dressed in the iconic Guevara style (beret, military jacket, beard or stubble) and delivers lines with a Cuban/Argentine revolutionary flavor.
The 1996 film adaptation directed by Alan Parker and starring Antonio Banderas made this even more explicit: Banderas literally plays **Che Guevara** (complete with the famous beret and cigar), and the character is credited simply as “Che,” with no attempt to disguise the historical identity.
So in short: yes, the narrator is Che Guevara, used as a dramatic device rather than a historically accurate character.
I liked the kind of punny humor in most of the themers. Except there is a hole in my education where “cotillion” should be, and I felt “nuclear option” was more technical wizardry than humor. Not sure why, but agree with Rex that TROU is annoying in puzzles. And definitely got hung up by the GAMGEE-PASEO cross!
ReplyDeleteLet’s see now … a couple of nice long downs, 7 themers of varying quality, and a bunch of fairly normal Sunday fill. I guess that rates a + (sorry, I don’t like the star system).
ReplyDeleteI’m sure it’s been used before, but I love the clue for 1A ELOPED.
What’s a Love LANGUAGE? (2D).Like a Romance language or like the language of love? Just Love LANGUAGE? Oh, okay then.
I’ve stared a few people down in my time. I don’t think I have ever congratulated myself for having OUT FACEd them. Weird term. Another weird term: TROU (27A). I have never in real life heard anybody say this. Only in crosswords. More nits, okay … 91D SVELTE and lithe are not equivalent. SVELTE is all about grace and elegance, lithe references agility and/or supple muscularity. 4D PASEO’s Spanish origins should have been hinted at. The line beginning at 50A IRAESEOXONOEPDT must be a Sunday cousin of OOXTEPLERNON.
And @Anoa Bob’s gotta love 116A.
I enjoyed the puzzle as much for its long Down answers as for the LANGUAGE twist of the theme answers. Of those, my FAVE was EGOCENTRIC MODEL, which took a minute to snap into view. Otherwise, I liked the romantic NW corner of ENAMOR x ELOPED ON A DATE; AMEN next to HOW TRUE; SQUEEZE on top of HUDDLES.
ReplyDelete[Hide-and-seek in an old Victorian home, say?]
ReplyDeleteA GAME OF NICHES
nice!
DeleteI believe the only example of a homonym/antonym pair (sounds the same, means the opposite) is RAZE/RAISE. Any of you xwordsmiths think of another/others?
ReplyDeleteI think “face down” is a thing but OUTFACE is roll-your-own drek.
ReplyDeleteUncle Arpo!!
ReplyDeleteWould someone be good enough to explain the reason for the ‘twice’ in the clue for 109A?
ReplyDeleteThe letter-switch gimmick happens twice in that answer
DeleteI had to read Rex for the explanation of cotillion vs. octillion. Of course I know the word, but didn't think "cotillion dresses" was a common phrase, too green painty in my opinion. Obviously the letter exchange couldn't be in dresses but I was not buying into cotillion.
ReplyDeleteI originally had ACME is THE REason, thinking it was post-backfire even though the clue told me differently. SNAFU and FENCE rescued me from that error.
TouSSAUDS first for me a la Rex.
My two favorite themers today were SPANISH RAMADA and LESSER OF TWO VEILS.
The clue for ELOPED, "Departed unceremoniously" totally sent me in the direction of wondering how one died unceremoniously. Most people do pass on in that manner, but that there might be a word for that, hmm. I finally realized it was just the next in a large series of puns using ELOPE.
Thanks for the Sunday puzzle, Trenton Charlson!
Can't hear "trou" without thinking of Jack Black's "..drop trou and squeeze out a Cleveland steamer..."
ReplyDeleteCharming. One of many things I now wish I could unlearn.
Delete"(ONE LITER) — not sure why I got it into my head to give this one a British spelling" -- A liter is metric, of course, and that fact got your brain thinking British.
ReplyDeleteI liked it. Except for GAMGEE (Rex's "gimme"), OUTFACE, NOE, SEMELE. And even though I solved slowly with a Sunday grid, now I'm off to find my typo (of course). Thank you, Trenton :)
ReplyDeleteHow did you spell Hahn? Goldie
Delete“The once proud SPANISH RAMADA reduced to a mere SPANISH RAMADA” (I think Rex meant to make the 1st one ARMADA).
ReplyDeleteEasy-medium. Pretty breezy solve for me. SEMELE was a major WOE.
ReplyDeleteSimple theme, fun solve, liked it more than @Rex did.
With your help, finally figured out the meaning of the “Twice!” bit: nuclear option and unclear option.
ReplyDeleteYeah but, one is the clue and the other is the answer. It kinda doesn’t make sense to me.
DeleteMe too neither
DeleteWhen I realized 72 down was ZOLAESQUE, I knew Rex would mention the scene in Wordplay. The best scene in the movie, I would say.
ReplyDeleteThis seemed to take a long time to finish. 34 minutes?... seemed longer. But at least no errors, and not very many Unknown Names for a nice change; only GAMGEE, DIDI, and SEMELE, I think.
I'm surprised many people haven't heard of PASEO... I don't know a lot of Spanish but I've certainly heard it a few times.
A few typeovers: POSITIVES before POTENCIES for "Strengths". Also JURASSIC before TRIASSIC although it didn't last long because I couldn't think of a word ending ---JS for 11 across "Tries to get a rise out of".
I hate "Bae" the way Rex hates "Trou". So glad it did not appear here today.
ReplyDelete"Paseo" I know as a Spanish word. I could not believe there was no indication it was Spanish. Lovely word but have NEVER seen or heard it i English.
Enjoyed most of the theme answers. smiled at the first. Guessed cotillion for the second as octillion began to fill in. Did not like 44 because "came to the rescue" is incomplete and doesn't ring. And I could not figure out what 79 was supposed to be a play on. Finally guessed it must be geometric... which I'd never heard of. Then I smiled again at "lesser of two veils" ( The answer was better than the clue.)
I thought there were a lot of nice downs "In a flash" "Zolaesque" "Persimmon" triassic period" come to mind. I liked the duo of 'little reminders: "postits" and "notes".
A good puzzle despite several very obscure names.
Crew teams refer to their rowing shorts as "trou". Search "crew trou", and you'll see it's a thing.
ReplyDeleteStill eager to anticipate Rex's rating. Today I thought a solid "two", but he called the whole puzzle "mildly disappointing", so the qualifier must have been worth a half-star.
ReplyDeleteLoved the video; Mrs. Rex is a good sport. We are in the car on the NY Thruway and had just passed Binghamton; if we had read the blog sooner, we'd have tooted the (Boston accent) HAWN.
Thirty-three 3-letter answers (plus three 4-letter plurals) which to me makes thirty-six. Included in this rogues' gallery are these ten, which could vie for consideration to be minor gods of bad crossword fill...
IRA-ESE-OXO-NOE-PDT
and
IZE-ESP-JEW-CAM-OYL
Awful theme, awful throughout.
ReplyDeletethe eternal mystery of what pleases Rex continues.. the puzzle isn't an all time classic but its also got a lot going for it
ReplyDeleteLiked this well enough, took a while to get the "first two letters" bit, thought we were just dealing with anagrams. I wasn't looking for PASEO due to the lack of any Spanish in the clue. Interestingly enough (as I pointed out to @Roo), the Spanish term is "dar un PASEO" for "take a stroll" bu the literal translation would be "give a stroll". Did get a nudge in the right direction with SPANISH RAMADA, which I wasn't expecting, but no one expects the SPANISHRAMADA.
ReplyDeleteTIL OUTFACE and DIDI, how do you do. Nothing else totally unknown but crosses were required, which is fine.
Generally like your stuff, TC, and This Checked enough boxes for me. Thanks for a fair amount of fun.
Loved it. More challenging than the usual Sunday puzz. I really like the gimmick and wish all of them were of the double flippy-flip sets of double letters like 109A.
ReplyDeleteI haven’t read all the comments so this may have been answered. Why is twice necessary in 109A: Contents of a murky cauldron? (twice!)
ReplyDeleteMore than once of us don’t get it
DeleteIsn't it because the "second in command" directive is applied twice, once for Nuclear --> UNCLEAR, and once more for Option --> POTION?
DeleteThe first two letters of both words get changed - NUclear OPtion to UNclear POtion.
DeleteIt’s been a hot minute since I did a NYTX. Picked up a paper while grocery shopping this morning. Straightforward solve. Got the theme earlyish. Favorite was EGOCENTRIC MODEL because it took a second for the switch to register. It seems a perfectly cromulent answer all on its own.
ReplyDeleteBiggest issue with Sundays is that 21x21 can get pretty tedious and it is nigh on impossible to avoid crud. TROU is a perfect example. You never see it in the wild as a stand-alone word, and when you do see it in the wild it is probably paired. “Drop trou,” is about as juvenile a thing as one can imagine.
BTW - this is definitely just a one-off. The NYT has gotten nothing but worse since I stopped buying it. I’m sticking with AVCX and New Yorker puzzles for my crossword fix.
Welcome back, even if only for one day.
DeleteNo podría estar más de acuerdo.
ReplyDeleteHey, this was a fun one and kinda challenging and sorta funny. Way over my usual time, but time well spent. Never hurts to drop in a few crazy long solves to keep your averages up. Now that I've counted the gunk, no wonder it took forever; it's another name-a-palooza. And sooo many partials ... wow.
I love this simple elegant theme. Change two letters and get a completely crazy answer. Great job on a lot of humor. UNCLEAR POTION is a brilliant way to wrap things up.
The 13 word German crossword dictionary succeeds again.
Surprised to see the GAMGEE/PASEO hate because I know how to spell GAMGEE and here in the southwest we have PASEOs everywhere. I'm also surprised there's no indication in the clue PASEO is a Spanish word.
Mary is definitely more comedienne than contrarienne.
❤️ OCTILLION. [Bananas] = LOCO. [Emulate a vagabond].
😩 ODIC.
People: 19
Places: 2
Products: 7
Partials: 18
Foreignisms: 4
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Gary's Grid Gunk Gauge: 50 of 134 (37%)
Funny Factor: 13 😂
Tee-Hee: EXOTICA. Naked ASA jaybird.
Uniclues:
1 Adult products convention in a motel in Calamocos.
2 Apply acne cream.
1 SPANISH RAMADA EXOTICA
2 SQUEEZE UNCLEAR POTION
My Fascinating Crossword Uniclue Keepsake from Last Year: Midnight murderers club. BARN OWL CLIQUE.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Well, nice to see you anyway. Don’t know if you are referring to the puzzles being less good or the overall NYT but an argument can be advanced for each criticism. I think the puzzles have in fact gotten less difficult. Even today’s Puzzles Special Section was easier than prior years. Maybe they want to let everyone save time for Wordle, Connections, Strands, Spelling Bee et. al.
ReplyDeleteAll the best.
Awful. Obscure as all hell answers for a Sunday. Felt so forced. Needed a lot more editing.
ReplyDeleteToo many Propers to call this puzzle fun, and then there was that dreadful GAMGEE/PASEO crossing. But I found the theme more delightful than Rex, and the puzzle was finally workable, so I give it a pass...
ReplyDeleteWe all have our crossword pet peeves. TROU is on my list, and fairly high too, along with BAE, but my #1 guaranteed side-eye, wince, grrr-inducing pet peeves is stupid clues that ask us to count letters or say a letter is silent; the “identify the letter(s) or their sound, etc” clues. I. Loathe. Them. OK, I’m done.
ReplyDeleteThe construction follows a very tried and true Sunday pattern, and the theme is clever enough. I especially liked the SPANISH RAMADA for the same reasons OFL points out. The one that made me actually laugh though is the mental picture of Wile E. Coyote setting up the fake bridge over the chasm complete with the TNT box (complete with its ACME logo) and its inevitably too short fuse. Ka-BOOM!
Every single time. And every time as a kid (ok, even now) I think it’s funny. DANCING WITH THE TSARS was also pretty good. The other four themers seemed forced. That often happens with more complicated Sunday themes with long answers and more tricky spelling or word order challenges.
From a construction standpoint, while we only had the old switch two letters trick, I cannot imagine how long it took for Mr. Charlson to create seven of them that even came close to working. Seven!! Of the theme entries though, except for the pressure the grid itself brought to bear, several of them could easily have been left out and the remaining (better) ones would have made the theme stronger - and funnier. For me the good ones included SPANISH RAMADA,
ACME TO THE RESCUE and DANCING EITH THE TSARS.
Other than the theme, the remainder of the puzzle was just fill; no real sparkle. Decent Sunday with a fun theme, but honestly, I always expect more from a constructor with whom I am so familiar. @Rex’s 2 1/2 ⭐️ rating was spot on.
Re Hawn/horn merger: it's been noted that in some English accents "pawn shop" sounds like . . . well you can figure it out.
ReplyDeleteI doubt Rex will share this lets see: todays Sunday puzzle was really good plain and simple why are you so critical there's so much to love in this puzzle I'm afraid to read your blog anymore nothing is good enough good day
ReplyDeleteTook me until Monday morning to finish this! The eight-hour sleep did the trick!
ReplyDeleteThis puzzle sucked. All I need to say is PASEO. Absolute GARBAGE.
ReplyDeleteFor the clue “Reminiscent of a certain French author's work,” I promptly dropped in Proustian, which fit, and I was proud of myself… but it became clear pretty soon that it was wrong.
ReplyDeleteWordplay!!!
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