Relative difficulty: Medium
Theme answers:
- "NO WAY, JOSE" (17A: Two [thumbs] down)
- "I NEED A RIDE" (25A: One [thumb] out)
- NOTHING TO DO (35A: Two [thumbs] moving around each other)
- "WORKS FOR ME" (49A: Two [thumbs] up)
Semtex is a general-purpose plastic explosive containing RDX and PETN. It is used in commercial blasting, demolition, and in certain military applications.
Semtex was developed and manufactured in Czechoslovakia, originally under the name B 1 and then under the "Semtex" designation since 1964, labeled as SEMTEX 1A, since 1967 as SEMTEX H, and since 1987 as SEMTEX 10.
Originally developed for Czechoslovak military use and export, Semtex eventually became popular with armed groups and insurgents because, prior to the 2000s, it was extremely difficult to detect, as in the case of Pan Am Flight 103. (wikipedia)
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The cluing felt hard today, or hardish, though the only thing in the puzzle that I didn't actually know, in the end, was SEMTEX. Oh, and EFT, which I just keep forgetting, apparently. Electronic funds transfer?? Yes. I am old school, in that I expect my EFTs to be Newt-onian (an EFT is a juvenile newt, as any longtime solver knows). This is only the fourth financial EFT, as against 68 amphibious EFTs in the Shortz Era alone (192 all time). I had to work a little to get LATINS, which is deeply ironic, as I just finished teaching the Aeneid for the umpteenth time, and it's the LATINS, led by King (... wait for it...) Latinus, that Aeneas encounters when he lands in Italy, and the Latin king's daughter, Lavinia, whom he must eventually wed (after a stupid war that goes on for five books just 'cause Juno wants to make it all as painful as possible, even though she can't stop it (because Fate!)). I do not really buy DO HARM as a standalone phrase. DO NO HARM, yes, that is a phrase, a very specific and meaningful phrase where the Hippocratic oath is concerned. DO HARM sounds like the terse direction of a sadistic interplanetary emperor. The rest of the fill seems fine—no strong reactions.
Bullets:
- 32A: One of 300 at the National Mall (ACRE) — at first I was like "... STEP?" Like maybe that's how many steps there were to the top of the Washington Monument, or the Lincoln Memorial (lol that would put Lincoln very, very high up).
- 39A: Marvel series focused on Thor's brother (LOKI) — so ... just [Thor's brother], then. Not sure why all the other words are necessary if you're just gonna end up at [Thor's brother].
- 55A: "The Burghers of Calais" sculptor (RODIN) — No idea what this is. I know that RODIN is a sculptor, and that's all I had to know. Let's look at some art, shall we?
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[oh hey, it's at The Met: "The monument commemorates the heroism of six leading citizens (burghers) of the French city of Calais. In the fourteenth century, at the beginning of the Hundred Years’ War, they offered their lives to the English king in exchange for the lifting of his siege of the city. By portraying their despair and haunted courage in the face of death, Rodin challenged contemporary heroic ideals and made an event from the past seem immediate and real."] |
- 35D: Annual breast cancer awareness observance (NO BRA DAY) — I did not know this was a thing, or still a thing. Seems like an impractical option for many women. According to wikipedia, "The day is controversial as some see it as sexualizing and exploiting women's bodies while at the same time belittling a serious disease." I misread the clue as [Annual breast cancer awareness month] and, having the "NO-," wrote in NOVEMBER (which fits ... it's wrong, but it fits). Breast Cancer Awareness Month is actually right now, October, and NO BRA DAY is next week (October 13)
- 39D: Heroine of Verdi's "Il Trovatore" (LEONORA) — I must've seen LEONORA a bunch over the years, as an answer as well as in clues, because I plunked her down with just a few crosses despite knowing nothing about this opera.
- 48D: Cutesy name for a certain leviathan (NESSIE) — "leviathan" makes me think "whale," and I was like "did Ahab have a 'cutesy name' for Moby-Dick!? WHITIE?" But no, "leviathan" is just a gigantic (watery) creature, so ... the Loch Ness Monster, aka NESSIE.
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[I own this cutesy Moby-Dick shirt—design by Kate Beaton] |
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I got up early today to celebrate my 86th birthday.
ReplyDeleteHappy birthday!!
DeleteHappy Birthday! Hope you have a nice one!
DeleteHappy birthday!!!
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DeleteHapyy birthday indeed! Coincidentally, my long time singing partner had his 86th on Monday. Glad you're both still at it.
DeleteHappy Birthday JC66! Or should I say @JC86! 🎉
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Happy Birthday! Mine too.
DeleteHappy birthday, @JC66! Same day as John Lennon's. You may be 86, but I bet you're still better looking than Jon Hamm.
DeleteJC, that’s fantastic! Wishing you many blessings and the happiest of birthdays.
DeleteHappy birthday!
DeleteHappy Birthday Jerry!🎂
DeleteTo 120!
DeleteHappy Birthday, @JC66 !
DeleteThank you all for the kind thoughts.
DeleteHappy Birthday!
DeleteHave a lovely celebration!
DeleteHuzzah!
DeleteHappy Birthday!
DeleteGood luck blowing out the candles!
DeleteMy 85th today. Same as John Lennon's.
DeleteHave a great dY and keep on keepin’ on!
DeleteHave a super-great b-day, JC dude.
DeleteSorry I was so late to the party.
M&A
ReplyDeleteMedium. No WOEs (needed a few crosses to remember SEMTEX at 13D) but a surprising number of overwrites for a Wednesday, particularly in the North Central.
Overwrites:
At 4A, my snippet was a frond before it was a SPRIG
Off the incorrect F in frond, my 4D bean was a favA before it was SOYA
That led to my 15A Jabba being an alien before he was OBESE
Off the incorrect L in alien, my 5D lunchbox item was a very questionable blt before it was a PBJ
At 28D, my "Me too" opposite was NOt I before it was NOR I
My 38D straight poker was stud before it was a TINE
It’s Thursday
DeleteI had your first 5 overwrites also.
DeleteMedium difficulty is about right, I'd say. Hardest area was the SE, where I needed a cheat to get the MYLAR/CHER cross, and had "sodas" before COLAS. Liked the theme and revealer, which led me to INEEDARIDE and NOWAYJOSE.
ReplyDeleteSuch an enjoyable puzzle that I could find nothing opposable in it.
ReplyDeleteNice one! 👍
Deletelol
DeleteYou’re almost damning this with faint praise by your standards.
DeleteHahaha…opposable THUMBS!
DeleteWhen my roommate got annoyed with his cats, he would twiddle his thumbs in their faces and say "See this? Can you do this? No!!!"
DeleteSincere, true LOL
DeleteThe extra verbiage in the LOKI clue may be due to the fact that Thor and Loki are actually not brothers, traditionally. But they are brothers in the Marvel Comics world (and related movies and such).
ReplyDeleteA good point.
DeleteLOKI was adopted.
DeleteRoo
Agreed on that point. I HAVE watched Marvel movies with Thor/LOKI. I just searched and it says Odin and LOKI were brothers. Odin was Thor’s father…so technically in Greek mythology, LOKI was Thor’s uncle. Also, FWIW, unlike Tom Hiddleston’s LOKI, the mythology is that he was a physical giant.
DeleteThe extra words on the Loki clue were helpful if you don’t know Norse mythology cold but you *can* remember recent TV shows that go in that direction. Saved *me* time anyway…
DeleteI'm with Lewis.
ReplyDeleteI agree on ‘medium’ and pretty much everything that Rex said. I have to admit that I do occasionally twiddle my thumbs (waiting at the doctor’s office maybe) and I thought that clue and answer were fine.
ReplyDeleteI have not heard of NOBRADAY and don’t see how wearing no bra promotes breast cancer awareness.
Possibly because when you don't wear a bra all day you are very aware of your breasts. Thus you are reminded to have them checked.
DeleteWell I tried. I kept hoping the theme would come to me. I glanced at the reveal, no help. I put it down for a while and came back to it, nada.
ReplyDeleteIn the mean time, in addition to the gibberish-like theme entries, I putzed around with the likes of SEMTEX, NESSIE, HOLMES, LEONORA x RODIN, et c. until I finally gave up and through in the towel.
This is a good example of the type of endeavor that turned me off to Thursday grids, trivia in crosswords, and stunt puzzles in general. Oh well, tomorrow’s another day. It seems like eons since we’ve had a Robyn Friday. It would be a welcome relief.
Gibberish-like? Which entries are gibberish-like? Or do you simply mean unfamiliar to you?
DeleteHe means “certain kinds” of names like José.
DeleteTo clarify, I didn’t mean gibberish in the sense of indecipherable nonsense - just that since the theme had escaped me, I meant that the answers at that point seemed totally unrelated to the clues. I agree, the wording is cumbersome.
DeleteI understood your comment immediately. In fact about halfway in, I said to myself, what is all this gibberish?
DeleteTook a bit to get into the puzzle, but once in the solve flowed pretty easily. I thought the theme worked really well. I, too, needed to twiddle my thumbs to understand "nothing to do," but I don't think it is a misfit in the theme. The theme is all about the thumbs, not about the expressions.
ReplyDeleteI also thought of whales for leviathan and considered FUDGIE from the Carvel ads. Anyone else?
ReplyDeleteWHITIE for Moby Dick is legitimately hilarious.
Fun puzzle. Super fun write up. 👍👍
I definitely considered it. It fit the clue perfectly (cute and whale) but I couldn’t remember the exact name.
DeleteMaybe the player who is 86 today.
DeleteI liked the puzzle. Medium, yes, a happy medium between too easy and too hard. WORKS FOR ME.
ReplyDeleteWOE: SEMTEX. Oh, and also: CHER Hair? If you SAY SO. And that was a fairly obscure way to clue RODIN.
Following on from yesterday's ESP, another referent to a non-existent thing (NESSIE). I thought Leviathan was a peculiar clue; it's difficult for me to picture a Leviathan in any way different from a whale, and NESSIE looks different from that in every illustration I've seen. More eel-like, somehow. The word "cryptid" feels less deceptive and more accurate, while retaining a certain Thursday feel.
Feel like I NEED to bone up on my LATINS. If I were ever boned up on them at some point in the past, I am certainly DEBONED now.
Better get started on my day; there is never a day when I have NOTHING TO DO. Hope yours is a good one.
From Wikipedia "Leviathan is a sea serpent demon noted in theology and mythology. It is referenced in the Hebrew Bible, as a metaphor for a powerful enemy, notably Babylon." Current use is more about any large & powerful beast/thing
DeleteThanks! Always pays to look stuff up.
DeleteA capital-R Riddle puzzle. Where I’m hopelessly stymied as to why NO WAY JOSE is the answer to [Two down], not to mention the other theme clue/answers, and then finally I uncover the revealer and the heavens part.
ReplyDeleteThose are the best riddles. The ones that get you good.
This puzzle was a fun, smart, and engaging. Enough bite to satisfy my brain’s workout ethic. Lovely misdirect for me in [Infantry arm]. Lovely wordplay in [Break the Hippocratic oath, say]. And something I’ve never done before while solving a puzzle: maneuver my hands into various thumb-centric positions.
Then pure joy at remembering “twiddle”, a Hall Of Fame word I haven’t thought about in ages. Icing on the cake was the glorious PuzzPair© of APE and a backward KOKO.
Came into the box hoping for a day brightener and left it buoyant. Bravo and thank you, Freddie. I loved this!
Can anything other than thumbs be twiddled?
DeleteSome dictionary sites mentioned buttons, pencils, and hair.
DeleteHey All !
ReplyDeleteOne up could also be OkeyDokey.
Two up - Siskel and Ebert Recommend. A bit long, that one.
Nice puz. A bit more difficult than a WedsPuz has been lately. Har, just realized it's Thursday! Would have accepted this as a WedsPuz, but a ThursPuz? There's no trick, seems to me. Just a straightforward cluing trope. The ole brain is slow this morning (is taking forever to find anything on SB), but am I missing something?
National Mall, was thinking SHOP, TREE, ELMS, STEP before finally realizing ACRE. Sheesh.
Did like the Theme, just seemed placed on wrong day. But was fun to figure out. I made the gestures as I got to the clues. 👍
Welp, have a great Thursday (apparently)!
Three F's
RooMonster
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I was wondering when Siskel and Ebert would be mentioned. You take the prize for first!
DeleteEnjoyed most of it except where I ran into problems in the S/W. Never heard of NOBRADAY, LEONORA, IMS or EFT. But my problem is with WORKSFORME. I think of Two (Thumbs) Up as exuberance, something exceptional, above and beyond. Whereas 'works for me' seems like an indifferent shrug maybe even with a 'whatever' uttered. Two thumbs up is something I would not being saying for this clue.
ReplyDeleteI don't think of two thumbs up necessarily as exuberance. Very often it would be more like, "yep, I think you nailed it", or "yep, go for it". WORKS FOR ME could be uttered indifferently, or it could be uttered cheerfully and with a smile, and the latter version WORKS FOR ME as a clue.
Delete(My own version of Joaquin's Dictum ("clues are not definitions!") is that the answer doesn't have to be substitutable for the clue in every instance, but just in some instance.)
“IM” = short for “instant messaging”, eg chatting between one PC (computer) user and another. Although really seldom PC to PC - typically phone to phone.
DeleteAgree that WORKSFORME no WORKSFORME. I’ve never heard two thumbs up indicate anything as bland as WORKSFORME, which would merit a single thumb up. But this puzzle otherwise WORKSFORME, as it sounds like it does for you. So just a nit to pick.
DeleteI often like the puzzle a little more than OFL but today even more so, as I thought this was the best revealer I have seen in a long time. I had all the themers in place and they made no sense, then ALLTHUMBS showed up, everything clicked, the lights came on, and the giant aha! Terrific.
ReplyDeleteAgree with OFL on the proper cluing for EFT, SEMTEX was a total WOE, but I did feel all cultured and smart for the second day in a row by knowing the RODIN sculpture immediately.
I understand the Dolly Parton reference but at some point someone called her a "dumb blonde" and she responded "I,m not dumb, and I'm not BLONDE". And today she's saying "I ain't dead" so there's that too.
Very nicely don FC. A Fair Chance that this is my favorite Thursday in quite a while, and thanks for all the fun.
That is one of my favorite all time quotes: I remember it as her being asked in an interview if it bothered her that people called her a dumb blonde, to which she replied, “No, because I know I’m not dumb (pause) and I’m not blonde”.
DeleteFinished with an error— NOt I instead of NOR I, and could not see ACRE.
ReplyDeleteGotta run, early medical appt for my wife. She’s wearing a surgical boot , so I have to drive her.
I had that same error.
DeleteWith you on Not I, and I had no idea what to do with AcTE
DeleteMe too - I Googled "acte" and found nothing that could be "One of 300 at the National Mall" - so I dumped "acte" and double checked the Down answers - only "Not I" seemed like it might have been off, and I realized it could be "Nor I" and hence "acre" going across. Is that cheating?
DeleteYou forgot about the puzzle on 10/11/2018 where NoBraDay was the theme
ReplyDeleteThanks for the Verdi clip, Rex. Trovatore is probably familiar to some as the opera destroyed by the Marx brothers in A Night at the Opera. It has some of the best music and the most ridiculous plot of any opera I know.
ReplyDeleteBut the music that’s stuck in my head this morning is the Ramones:
Twenty, twenty, twenty-four hours ago
I wanna be sedated
NOTHING TO DO, nowhere to go . . .
Pre and Early Shortz era featured a lot more opera based clues and answers. ERITU lurked in every corner. LEONORA is pretty non obscure as far as opera goes. Do they still have opera regularly on Jeopardy? I remember the operas were usually really obscure but featured historical figures or stories people would know from elsewhere.
DeleteThe revealer was a genuine A-HA! moment for me. I had the themers partially filled in but could make no sense of them. The revealer was easy to get but I didn’t look at it until near the end. Then a giant light bulb went off and everything made sense. I love it when a revealer really helps the solve, rather than just saying something cutesy about the themers. So yay! And “twiddling your thumbs” means “sitting around having nothing to do” so I have no objection to that pairing. Nice puzzle!
ReplyDeleteAt the bucket list Rodin Museum in Paris, The Burghers of Calais is the boss level work at the end of the trip through the museum. One of the great museum experiences.
ReplyDeleteNational Mall - I thought there might be 300 cherry TREES, although now I think the basin may not actually be on the mall. ACRES came soon enough.
Thumbs circling around each other: I had the same experience as Rex of sitting here trying to enact the motion. First horizontally, but my arms were in the way. Turned it vertical and had a great AHA moment.
It is kind of funny that they have to go all the way to a Star Wars clue to not be offensive with OBESE. On a side note, the NYT Daily podcast did an interesting piece on the effects of GLP1 drugs that go way beyond just the weight loss, but the difference in how people are treated and their confidence level. Seemingly becoming almost entirely different people after a lifetime in a different body.
Loved CHER in the puzzle.
I see you Yalie ELI trying to hide in the corner like those people who say they went to school “in New Haven”.
CDROM and ROLODEX took me back to the beginning of my work life in an office at college.
Maybe not bucket list, maybe pail list, Rodin Museum in Philadelphia is spectacular, next to the Barnes, across from the new Calder. Signed, Philly Chamber of Commerce.
DeleteHere to second that the Rodin Museum in Philly is terrific and a big ol' version of this statue is in the garden.
DeleteAnonymous, aka Philly Chamber of Commerce, You forgot to mention the Philadelphia Museum of Art which has a great number of fabulous works, including two of the best by Marcel Duchamp. (I could sit and stare at The Large Glass all day.) The PMofA is within walking distance of the Rodin. I know this because, as a starving art student on a very skimpy research grant, I couldn't afford the bus fare between the two locations.
DeleteSimilar to Lewis's sentiment, I won't THUMB my nose at this one.
ReplyDeleteI did find it hard, though -- had difficulty finding any sort of foothold, despite catching on to the theme early. Like Rex, I felt that NOTHINGTODO was a distant last in terms of quality.
Having read nearly every novel by Ludlum, Forsythe and Le Carre, SEMTEX was a gimme.
I'm a little confused by the GRIN clue. I guess it's saying that a GRIN is a response one might give instead of saying "Aw, shucks"?
How about [One up the ass] for a clue? I'll leave the answer to you.
ReplyDeleteI think DOHARM is the motto of Doctors Without Ethical Enough Borders (DWEEB).
I guess I've been observing breast cancer awareness for my whole life and didn't know it.
I thought this puzzle was brilliant. A mind that comes up with thumb-related actions to theme what turns out to be a NYTXW-level puzzle is one that I admire greatly. Thanks a ton, Freddie Cheng.
I found this a good challenge and had no idea what was going on for quite a while. Like @Rex, I got NO WAY JOSÉ early on, but what the heck did it have to do with the clue? By the time I reached ALL THUMBS, I had partial inexplicable answers for all the other theme clues. Ah, THUMBS. At that point, the meaning of the theme answers hove into view.
ReplyDeleteAmusingly, among synonyms for THUMB, Merriam-Webster offers “bum.” As in hitchhike. I wonder if any other body parts have, as synonyms, other body parts. Hmm. Yikes, immediately after typing that, I looked up synonyms for BONE and found “heart,” “belly,” “gut” and “breast.” As in “I could feel in my bones that I had just met my future wife.” So, not so unusual as I thought.
And speaking of BONE, I don’t think I’ve ridden my DEBONE hobbyhorse for ages, so now seems like a good time. The DE in DEBONE is redundant. Both Oxford and Merriam-Webster give, as the first meaning of the verb BONE, “to remove the bones from.”
Given that I’m aging and slightly Luddite, I liked the CD-ROM and ROLODEX clues and answers. I wouldn’t say that cluing RODIN with reference to The Burghers of Calais is obscure: it’s one of his major works. And because the material is bronze, there are 12 original casts in existence, four in the U.S.A. – Philadelphia, Washington, D.C., Pasadena and, as @Rex says, the Met in New York. Finally, characterizing Dolly Parton as one of the BLONDES seems ironic in light of her oft-quoted line, “The dumb BLONDE jokes never bothered me because I know I’m not dumb and I know I’m not a BLONDE.” (Hey, @pablo!)
I’ve just had a crazy month-and-a-half with travel, houseguests and a community project. I hope to be back on the blog more regularly.
Oh, and hey, @New Yorkers! How about those Blue Jays! (Too soon?)
Barbara, I'm sure you're right. I meant only that the RODIN clue was obscure (not immediate) to me.
DeleteOf course, there's another body part synonym for BONE that may be left unmentioned, with the clue that you'd easily find the mention in Henry Miller's work.
Thanks for the info about the casts of The Burghers! I first saw it/them in Greece and they knocked my socks off. Then a bit later I saw them at the Rodin Museum. No idea until now why duplicates were in reputable museums.
Delete@Barbara S, great factoid about the 12 casts. It just never occurred to me that casting lends itself to making more than one!
DeleteAnd yes, go Jays! My favorite October teams are the Yankees and Dodgers because they're so often in the playoffs, but I'm pretty happy with last night.
With all due respect to Oxford and M-W, Barbara, that use of “bone” always drives me crazy. It’s like when Mrs. Freude sends me to Trader Joe’s for shelled pistachios. Are those the ones with shells or not?
DeleteJust last night in my beginning Spanish conversation class, we learned the difference between “A mi tampoco” and “A mi no.” It’s the difference between “nor I” and “not I.”
Delete(I don’t know how to type the necessary accents on an iPad. Lo siento.)
@Andy--Wait til you get to "No soy yo" for "It wasn't me.".
DeleteGreat puzzle, fantastic revealer, extremely flowy solve.
ReplyDeleteWhat an inspired and original idea! What a huge "Aha Moment
ReplyDeleteit gave me when I got to the revealer! Without the revealer, I wonder if anyone would get the theme? Certainly I wouldn't have. But then the scales fell from my eyes and everything fell into place.
I never cease to be amazed at the inventive ideas constructors manage to come up with. As I've said before, every time I think there's no new idea under the sun, someone proves me wrong. This idea -- so simple, so smooth, so seemingly effortless -- seems absolutely genius to me. I love this puzzle, Hannah!
Only just now did I learn that I, too, had a DNF caused by NOT I/ACTE. I couldn't for the life of me figure out why the National Mall has so many ACTES. They don't perform a lot of French plays. Heck -- they don't perform any plays at all.
DeleteI do believe that those of us who solve on paper -- and therefore have no idea if and when something is Very Wrong with our solution -- are much more likely to let answers slide, even when they make no damn sense at all. Did the NOT I/NOR I kerfuffle spoil this wonderful puzzle for me? Not in the slightest.
Same error for me ... but with the eerie online silence of no happy music. Finally hit 'Check puzzle' in desperation.
DeleteOops. Freddie!!!!!! Sorry. Wrong puzzle in front of me.
ReplyDeleteThe Beatles “Good Morning” - “Nothing To Do, it’s up to you …"
ReplyDeleteWhat a pity. Not having a movie reference for two thumbs up.
ReplyDeleteNice clue for THOU.
Happy to learn about the Rodin sculpture. One of our museums, The Legion of Honor, features Rodin works, including The Thinker in the courtyard.
I saw up the two up/two down/one out clues and thought this was going to be a baseball puzzle. How fun and how timely! Wrong. Then thought OK this is gonna be one of those themes I’ll never figure out because NOTHING in the answers made any sense. AND THEN - aha! - the clever revealer made it all fall into place. Very nicely done.
ReplyDeleteDolly Parton a BLONDE? Hmm, maybe. Here’s what she famously said about that: “I’m not offended by all the dumb blonde jokes because I know I’m not dumb, and I know I’m not BLONDE.” Her health ISSUEs have been in the news this week, bless her heart. She is a national treasure.
Today I learned my non blonde hair style back in the 70s was iconic. Little did I know at the time. Take a gander at my profile photo for a very old and very fuzzy Polaroid of me with CHER hair, a very long time ago.
Great hair! We all wore our hair like that then (still do - kinda, shorter). Besides, long hair is very IN now :)
DeleteI had to rush to Rex to see how ACtE was anything on the National Mall because the obvious opposite to "me too" is NOt I. Sigh, I suppose NOR I can work also. Shoot.
ReplyDeleteI had no idea how thumbs worked with the theme. I had all of the theme answers in place and the reveal and only post-solve saw I NEED A RIDE's possible connection to a THUMB and was able to make sense of the twiddling the ups and the downs of thumbs. Cute.
Thanks, Freddie Cheng!
Same here. Was sure it was NOTI, never thought to look for anything else. Doh!
DeleteAn exceptional puzzle! Witty and entertaining. What a blast! This is what this eighty year old solver hopes for every day!
ReplyDeleteDidn't find this remotely entertaining, even after figuring out the theme, sorry.
ReplyDeleteClever, slow-dawning theme, and a generally fun puzzle, but NORI is not the opposite of Me too; that is NOTI; so couldn't get acre, as someone above said. DNF
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Deletetht said it earlier.
Clue answers aren’t definitions. (That’s why they are called clues!)
Nor I is close for crosswords.
A truly fun puzzle. Agree with Rex about the difference between NOTHINGTODO and the other themers, but “mox nix” as we used to say in the army (we all know the German origin). Like many others, NOtI made it hard for me to see ACRE, so that was my final correction before I got the happy music.
ReplyDeleteSomething about this puzzle just didn’t click with me. Yes, I’m kind of impressed with the theme - at least I became impressed with it after I finally worked it out but maybe I’m just not in the mood for hard work tonight, especially when the rest of the puzzle is so blah.
ReplyDeleteGot NO WAY JOSE but couldn’t connect it to its clue. After getting I NEED A RIDE I thought we might be looking at a hitch-hiking theme so I skipped to 35A and managed to scratch out NOTHING TO DO but, again, no connection to the clue for me. So I slipped down to the revealer and worked the down crosses until I could see ALL THUMBS and a small flicker of light occurred. Hitch-hiking, thumbs, one out. Yes. And two thumbs down for NO WAY. Toughest one was the clue for NOTHING TO DO because I honestly cannot remember ever twiddling my thumbs and had to sit post-solve and try to work this out physically in order to spur my useless brain to action.
So the theme turned out to be pretty interesting. Not so much the fill. Like 6D REO. The car itself is not based in Lansing, the manufacturer is (was). And, sure, there may have been UZIs in RoboCop, just like there were in a thousand other action movies. Just trying too hard to dress up old bits of crosswordese.
I have dinner forks, a garden fork or two, and maybe four pitchforks and, though they might be considered pokers, none of them have straight TINEs (38D). Combs have straight tines, but they’re not pokers. Deer antlers have tines but they are generally curved. So, straight poker? Trying too hard to play off the idea of a card game and ending up looking awkward.
I’m not even going to mention 3D NEW TOY (oops, just did).
Only non-theme fill I really loved was 55A RODIN because I’ve seen two castings of The Burghers of Calais (in Paris and Philadelphia) and they were terrifically moving.
I'm glad to read your comments because they reflect how I felt about the puzzle. The cluing was just not great, and the revealer did not brighten my feelings about the overall experience. Just meh. And I usually love Thursdays!
DeleteI liked it more than you but "new toy" was bad. The new modifier would never be used in actual speech or writing. Tridents usually have a straight middle poker but I would call that a prong not a tine
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DeleteI googled definition of. tine. The first was a reference to deer. The second “The prong of an implement like a fork or pitchfork”.
Seems close enough for crosswords to me.
@dgd. I simply said that the tines (or prongs) of a fork, a pitchfork, or deer antlers were not straight pokers. They are more than likely curved.
DeleteI thought this was a stellar puzzle and probably one of my favorite rebusless Thursdays of late. I DID get the THUMB concept at INEEDARIDE (due to crosses) but then at 35A I pictured my hands out straight with thumb cocked out, going around each other….hmmmm….D’oh! Clasp the hands together! This is not to say I immediately plunked in NOTHINGTODO, but easy to “get” with the crosses. I did immediately plunked in ALLTHUMBS, so there’s that.
ReplyDeleteTIL what SEMTEX is. For SOME reason I always think the horse is an ARABian, not ARAB so another thing to try to tuck into my memory bank. Also, I’m the type of person whose knowledge of fine art can range from obscure to nincompoop. Prior to going to the Rodin Museum a few years ago, I pretty much only knew about The Thinker, but due to that visit, was armed with knowledge about The Burghers of Calais.
Thanks for the great fun today Freddie!
Whenever I see The Thinker (in the Rodin Museum/Paris), it reminds me of THE MANY LIVES OF DOBIE GILLIS. Anyone else?
DeleteI also found myself doing the 'thumb thing' like Rex. The only problem I had was NORI - what does that have to do with Japanese seaweed?? - DUH!
ReplyDeleteThis was fun & thank you, Freddie :)
(Like Southside Johnny, I could also use a Robyn W. puzzle tomorrow -??
Medium.
ReplyDeleteI did not know LEONORA.
Costly erasure - NOtI before NORI
I still have a ROLODEX in my desk drawer. I don’t use it but I’m too lazy to go through it and extract the addresses/numbers that I might still need to know.
Cute idea with some fun theme answers, a couple of fine long downs, and not much junk, liked it.
My two thumbs up for this puzzle would be expressing something much more enthusiastic than WORKS FOR ME. Because - it kept me guessing all the way, even after I allowed myself to go to the reveal early. Usually I avoid doing that, liking to figure out a theme pre-reveal, but today I threw in the towel after I could make no sense of NO WAY JOSE and I NEED A RIDE. Loved seeing ALL THUMBS! And definitely needed them to get the other two theme answers, especially since OKay was messing up ???yS for WORKS. Such a clever theme - right there in plain sight, if you know what you're looking at!
ReplyDeleteRodin was a gimme for me and probably for any Montrealer of a certain age. One of the Burger of Calais bronzes was outside in front of an art dealer/Collector for many decades until it closed. It was imposing and anyone walking down the street - art lover or not- was familiar with it.
ReplyDeleteOn the other hand, for me the theme was not a gimme. Even after getting the revealer, I had to come here to understand why thumbs had anything to do with the answers.
Dolly Parton on No Bra Day -- are you trying to give us dirty old men a stroke? Emma! Bring me my heart pills!!
ReplyDeletePutting those BLONDES next to the SEMTEX makes them blonde bombshells.
So unnecessary. And juvenile. And offensive.
DeleteNo, no it's not. Please stop being offended by everything. Please.
DeleteFor some reason, I was hung up on “NOTI” instead of the seaweed. That left me with “ACTE”, which I stubbornly clung to. I guess the old brain is waning.
ReplyDeleteI had NOTI as well as SODAS
DeleteFor once I'm totally with Lewis in loving this puzzle. I thought it was the most fun theme in many years. And totally with Rex in reading "Two moving around each other" and thinking: say, what???
ReplyDeleteI also liked CDROM and ROLODEX, although I've owned hundreds of the former, but never one of the latter.
Pretty easy for a Thursday, and no stupid gimmicks like little circles or shaded squares.
ReplyDeleteI just followed the rule of thumb.
Any time I finish a Thursday puzzle I'm happy - and my being in good company with the AcTE/NOTI club didn't spoil the mood. It took me a long time to get the idea, had to do tons of fill first, but then it all fell into place.
ReplyDeleteYeah, the theme left a lot to be desired
ReplyDeleteI had to come here to understand the theme - thank you Rex! Clever
DeleteI’m with @Lewis on this one. I haven’t enjoyed my entire solve process this much in a very long time. This one had it all: word play like “the old you?” (THOU), a god (and Marvel character, but for me thankfully he’s also a Norse god), LOKI who crosses an opera character, LEONORA, some harder clues that thankfully had fair crossings. Just so much to love.
ReplyDeleteThe cherry on top though has to be the theme. OFL is correct that had “twiddle” or “twiddling” would have helped understand the theme, but I crave the “theme surprise aha!” that I had today.
Just the other day, when my granddaughter wanted to run errands with me one of which was going to require her to wait for me at the dentist for a while, I noticed that she didn’t have anything with her and I said, “you may want to take a book so you don’t have to sit twiddling your thumbs while I’m in the dentist.” She said “what’s twiddling your thimbs?” Really??? I guess everyone’s “twiddling” these days is being on your phone.
Anyway, this was a fun, clever, somewhat challenging Thursday with a real Aha moment that merited my own out loud “Yes!” and my immediate apology to my stalwart solving partner and lap cat, Pip.
I didn’t like this puzzle. Some of the clues and answers were puzzling to me.
ReplyDeleteNo pun intended? ;-)
DeleteAn old Sparks song, “Nothing to Do,” contains the lyrics: “If I had a million thumbs, I’d twiddle, twiddle, but I just have two.”
ReplyDeleteI found the puzzle without the theme easy. I actually got all three theme answers fairly quickly. All easy well known phrases after all. BUT I never got the theme itself. Twiddling etc. Yet so obvious after the fact Since I got all the letters correct, still a win to my way of looking at it. Liked the puzzle
ReplyDelete“Nothing to do?” Can be a stand alone phrase.
ReplyDeleteThis one got me fair and square. I found the solve on the hard side and could not for the life of my figure out what was going on after I finished. The revealer revealed nothing to me. Nothing clicked until I came here, and THEN I was pretty much floored - what a genius theme!! I'm with Nancy on this one - what well do these constructors draw from to come up with this brilliance??!! I just wish I could have figured it all out on my own.
ReplyDeleteThanks for the great workout, Freddie. And thanks @Rex for filling me in on what the heck was happening.
Add me to the NOtI/ACtE gang. Overall a hard Thursday for me, too.
ReplyDelete¿Qué pasó después?
ReplyDeleteI've gotten the axe two days in a row. I think the mods don't wanna hear anything about my obsession with the STENO on Tuesday. There she is, I suppose she could be a he, taking notes and being spicy dressed or possibly less dressed in courtroom finery. I don't put these people in the puzzle nor their proclivities, I just put them into context. I suppose the STENO could be a notebook with Playboy bunny stickers on it. In any event, there's note taking going on.
No STENOS in today's puzzle. Just some thumbs doing what thumbs do.
Here's the thing about Jabba. We don't know that he's obese. It's like saying a whale is obese. He might be very typical of his species, but because we judge people on appearance as humans, we think he's fat. It's just not okay.
Never heard of SEMTEX. The X resisted me. Being surrounded by GEEZERS every day gives me a bit of loving contempt for them -- and being one.
People: 11 {sheesk}
Places: 1
Products: 9
Partials: 6
Foreignisms: 0
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Gary's Grid Gunk Gauge: 27 of 74 (36%)
Funny Factor: 1 🤨
Tee-Hee: NO BRA DAY.
Uniclues:
1 Against all these new fangled thingamajigs.
2 Short people with sticks.
3 "Dear grampa: Turn off FoxNews."
4 Why the world is a beautiful place.
5 Nickname for a loch monster with an explosive personality.
1 LOYAL TO ROLODEX
2 MANUAL DWARFS
3 LI'L GEEZER GRAM (~)
4 BLONDES ENABLE
5 SEMTEX NESSIE
My Fascinating Crossword Uniclue Keepsake from Last Year: Grapes from the freezer / make me feel like I'm a Caesar / and though I'm a geezer / I become a strip teaser. COLD WINE ODE.
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