Tuesday, September 23, 2025

Blue-skinned race in "Avatar" / TUE 9-23-25 / Gymgoer's goal, perhaps / Country that dropped "western" from its name in 1997 / Some Rhode Island Reds / Word before deck or hand / Iliac artery feeder

Constructor: Jacob Stulberg

Relative difficulty: Easy


THEME: JUG BAND (40A: *Where the starts of the answers to the five starred clues can all be found) — theme answers start with JUG BAND instruments

Theme answers:
  • SPOONS OUT (18A: *Serves, as soup or ice cream)
  • WASHBOARD ABS (23A: *Gymgoer's goal, perhaps)
  • JUG BAND (40A: *Where the starts of the answers to the five starred clues can all be found)
  • STOVEPIPE HAT (51A: *Accessory for Abraham Lincoln)
  • BONES UP ON (63A: *Refreshes one's knowledge of)
Word of the Day: Bones (see 63A) —
The 
bones, also known as rhythm bones, are a folk instrument that, in their original form, consists of a pair of animal bones, but may also be played on pieces of wood or similar material. Sections of large rib bones and lower leg bones are the most commonly used bones, although wooden sticks shaped like true bones are now more often used. Metal spoons may be used instead, as is common in the United States, known as "playing the spoons". The technique probably arrived in the U.S. via Irish and other European immigrants, and has a history stretching back to ancient China, Egypt, Greece, and Rome. They have contributed to many music genres, including 19th century minstrel shows, traditional Irish and Scottish music, the blues, bluegrasszydecoFrench-Canadian music, and music from Cape Breton in Nova Scotia. The clacking of the loose rib bones produces a much sharper sound than the zydeco washboard or frottoir, which mimics rattling a bone up and down a fixed ribcage. (wikipedia)
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I have absolutely no experience of JUG BANDs that are not headed by Emmet Otter, although I now realize that my childhood memories have conflated Emmet Otter's JUG BAND Christmas with the animatronic Country Bear Jamboree feature at Disneyland, which I might be conflating with various animatronic musical acts at Showbiz Pizza (RIP, Showbiz—you were better, and weirder, than Charles Entertainment Cheese Pizza ever was).




If you'd asked me to name the instruments in a JUG BAND before I'd solved this puzzle, I would've been like, "Well, jug, first of all ... washboard (ding!) ... maybe spoons (ding ding!) ... some kind of makeshift string instruments? (bzzt!)." I had to look up "bones" (though I correctly surmised that they were literally bones, at least originally), and I still can't really conceive of how one plays a "stovepipe." Wikipedia doesn't have a separate entry for "Stovepipe (instrument)," but has it filed instead under "Jug (instrument)":

The stovepipe (usually a section of tin pipe, 3" or 4"/75 or 100 mm in diameter) is played in much the same manner, with the open-ended pipe being the resonating chamber. There is some similarity to the didgeridoo, but there is no contact between the stovepipe and the player's lips.

So it's jugesque. My main question today is a cultural one, namely "how does anyone know what a JUG BAND is (anymore)?" How popular are they? Where? With whom? In terms of broader pop culture, where do you even see them? Do younger people know about Emmet Otter? If not, what are their JUG BAND touchstones? Every experience of JUG BANDs that I have involves puppets or animatronic animals, which seems crazy to me. It seems like the kind of musical act that, in live-action fictional representations, might lend itself (strongly) to caricatures. Maybe that's why the JUG BAND scene is dominated by animal puppets. Annnnnyway, today we get JUG BAND instruments. Some of them. And then a very dull Tuesday puzzle on top of that. I can't say I had fun solving it, but I can say I had fun doing 15 minutes' worth of JUG BAND research.

[with Jughead, inaptly, on drums]

I have almost nothing to say about the non-theme material today. Lots of repeaters, no surprises. Haven't thought about THE CW for a while (1D: "Superman & Lois" airer). Is it still a network? ... apparently it is, look at that. I haven't had cable TV for so long, I no longer know which of seemingly hundreds of networks are still viable. But I do remember that Superman & Lois once existed, and that it aired on an off-brand network. It's possible I wrote in THE WB at first. I'm writing at length about this clue because it's possibly the only clue that made me think much of anything. Oh, I had to think about what things are in the gym (there are definitely MATs, but they are not among the first, say, ten things that spring to mind, so that clue was less easy than others) (30D: Gym sight). I wrote in ENOS as the [Son of Adam], but ENOS is not the son of Adam. He's the son of (... wait for it ...) SETH! Who is, in fact, the son of Adam. ENOS is not only the son of SETH, he is also a baseball player in the Hall of FAME (really awkward crossreference there) (58A: Slaughter in the Baseball Hall of 61-Across). Different ENOSes I assume (oof, man, I do not recommend trying to write ENOS in the plural; feels ... bad). That's it for trouble. Nearly nonexistent.

[Just pretend they're saying "ENOS"]

Bullets:
  • 4D: Doesn't give proper respect (SLIGHTS) — really (really? really) thought this was spelled SLEIGHTS. Like Janet LEIGH (27A: Hollywood's Janet or Vivien).
  • 43A: "On the Road Again," for one (TITLE) — hilariously arbitrary. Stunningly arbitrary. Spectacularly arbitrary. Of all the millions of TITLEs in the history of the word, today's example is ... a Willie Nelson movie title track from 1980?! Do JUG BANDs play this? Well, yes and no (yes they play a song by that title, no it is not the Willie Nelson song):

  • 2D: Country that dropped "western" from its name in 1997 (SAMOA) — occupied by various "western" colonial forces (Germany, then NZ after WWI, then the U.N.), SAMOA gained its independence in the 1962 and finally eliminate "Western" from its name in 1997. The country does, in fact, lie just "west" of American SAMOA.

That's all. See you next time.

Signed, Rex Parker, King of CrossWorld

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69 comments:

  1. Wierd theme, although being an older person, I’m vaguely familiar with JUGBANDs, from summer camp mostly, I think. But one instrument that’s missing here is the one (second to washboard maybe) that I associate most with a JUGBAND: a gut bucket, kind of like a bass with only one string. And, I’ve never heard of a stovepipe used as an instrument.

    That person SPOONingOUT their soup and ice cream is being very inefficient - one scoops out ice cream and ladles out soup.

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  2. Anonymous6:01 AM

    As a fan of a certain choogly jam-band named the Grateful Dead, I guess I’m more familiar with jug than some, as one of their early incarnations was as Mother McCree’s Uptown Jug Champions (get THAT in a puzzle, someone!).

    At least in my geographic region, THE CW is a broadcast OTA channel, not cable. Still more obscure than ABC, etc.

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  3. Bob Mills6:03 AM

    The theme was invisible to my old-guy's eyes, so I needed cheats for the JUGBAND/NAVI and THECW/WASHBOARDABS crosses. Otherwise, a pleasant puzzle with normal Tuesday difficulty.

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  4. What a weird clue for TITLE. Hardly a clue at all. Nancy could write dozens of cute ones.

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  5. Easy, but for some reason the holly-related Christmas carol (13A) that initially emerged from the synapses was The Holly and the Ivy, and I couldn't remember that song's holly locale. Aside from that, no WOEs and only one overwrite, at 70A, where my white alternative was dYE before it was RYE.

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  6. Anonymous6:59 AM

    I read it as “Holly locale in a Christmas CARD” and thought … FRONT?

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  7. EasyEd7:00 AM

    Thought this was a light and lively puzzle with an imaginative theme, even if a bit esoteric for today’s world. Very little jargon and plenty of fair crosses. The range and inventiveness of Rex’s comments are amazing! Don’t know how he does it, but am glad he stays with us.

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  8. Andy Freude7:11 AM

    I wouldn’t say that I’m a jug band aficionado, but I do enjoy weird folk stuff, including the entrancing sound of the jug band. Agree with JJK that it’s odd to leave out the gut bucket, a jug band staple. And the STOVEPIPE is a new one for me.

    Couldn’t see SPOON OUT (another oddity noted by JJK), so skipped over the NE corner to race through the rest, coming back to that quadrant to finish up with my last answer, TA-TA!

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  9. A couple of real head scratchers today, such as a borderline bizarre clue for TITLE. I’ve seen similar constructs used before, but this one really stretches it to the limit. Why not use the clue “Frog” for NOUN? Ok, a little off the beaten path, but still a misdemeanor.

    And wow - how many spoonfuls does it take to make a ladle ? Jeez, serving your guests soup with a spoon would be one sure way to kill your dinner party.

    You can definitely get to SKEW from “Bias”, but that combo would be just as comfortable here on a Saturday.

    I know ORC is standard Crosswordese, but haven’t we beaten that LOTR dead horse beyond recognition by now? There has got to be an alternative way to clue it - isn’t there some random foreign language that it means something in ?

    I know I’m not an outlier with my distaste for clues that ask which of the 250+ networks broadcast one of the several thousand TV shows that have aired (because I am the140th person who has expressed that sentiment here).

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  10. Random thoughts:
    • Nice to see Jacob, maker of 35 Times puzzles, back after a four-year absence.
    • The puzzle’s stars to me were the theme answers, all colorful – look at them! Fresh, too, with two NYT answer debuts and two once-befores.
    • Two lovely PuzzPairs© involving backward answers: GAGA and a backward NUTS, and TSARS and a backward IVAN.
    • I liked the cluing, which was a step thornier than Monday cluing, but not as tricky as on Friday/Saturday. For example, [Holly locales, in a Christmas carol] for HALLS. A simpler clue from a Monday past is [Passages], and a Saturday clue from the past is [Passages in a long story?].
    • Have you ever heard a good spoon player, whose sound is crisp and mesmerizing? For many years we had one of the best here in Asheville -- Abby The Spoon Lady, who busked downtown. Please, give her a listen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nLmM9kcBKs&list=RD_nLmM9kcBKs&start_radio=1 .

    I came into the box today blank and neutral, and have left it alive and buoyant. Thank you for a splendid outing, Jacob!

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  11. Hand up for @Conrads "The Holly and the Ivy" (the hollies were in the woodS), and for @Rex's THEwb, which apparently has not existed for nearly 20 years.

    Tons of 50/50 or 33/33/33 clues today, e.g. EPIC/POEM, SETH/CAIN/ABEL, GEEK/NERD, EMAIL/MAILS, JEST,JOKE/JAPE, RED/RYE. Most needed only one cross to settle, so no complaints.

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  12. Anonymous7:36 AM

    Thanks for your questioning mind about “slights”. Forced me to look up the difference. The clue, of course, is correct for “slights”…and then there is “sleight of hand”. Ain’t English grand?

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  13. Hey All !
    I'm guessing no one under 40 has ever heard of a JUG BAND. OK, I'm sure a few have, no one is quite a large assumption. But rare.

    Interesting Theme subject. If there is still JUG BANDs around today, they stay mighty hidden. Or I'm just not in the correct circles to know about them. Or Ariana Grande and Taylor Swift have just completely whitewashed out all other music. Har.

    A pretty SASSY puz, Jacob. Had a bit of a bite, wasn't an auto-fill here, which is good for a TuesPuz. Nice open corners. A bit high on Blockers, 38 normal, today was 42.

    Have a great Tuesday!

    One F
    RooMonster
    DarrinV

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    1. Anonymous2:48 PM

      52 here - never heard jug band and was convinced I’d get the “you’re almost there!” pop up when I finally decided to just go for it.

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  14. Anonymous7:50 AM

    Lonnie Donegan. In Britain it was called 'skiffle'. Post-WW2. 1950s. Then came the Beatles.

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    1. Anonymous9:20 AM

      The Quarrymen (precursor to the Beatles that included Lennon, McCartney, and Harrison) were indeed a skiffle band!

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  15. I never know an ENT from an ORC, but it's usually easy to resolve that coin toss with other answers.

    You also do not SPOONOUT soup, or ice cream, one would use a scoop and a ladle respectively; but okay, I could torture the language and get there.

    STOVEPIPE is only a thing to me in the sense that I know there's a hat named for it, and that come stoves must have one. You might as well tell me that a PTRAP or a BAROFSOAP could be used as a musical instrument and I"d be just as likely to believe you.

    Eventually I was left with

    _UGBA_D

    which looks like an obscure island nation you'd find in a Saturday puzzle.

    I resolved the G vs. J in _IST with only a minor pause, but filling in the _ in _AVI was purely a guess. Given my illiteracy on the ENT vs ORC matter, this one was from Mars.

    Even if all of the theme answers made sense, building a theme around previous-millennium regional esoterica like JUGBAND on a Tuesday is completely perplexing.

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  16. Anonymous8:24 AM

    If you’re going to use Brits in the clue, shouldn’t the answer be STEPMUM?

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    1. Anonymous10:04 AM

      Yes. It absolutely should be. Long time reader first time commenter. I came here entirely to make that point, and, frankly, to read Rex having a bit of a crack at the error. I see he was otherwise irritated. But it grated on me significantly.

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    2. I would think so

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    3. Yes, I certainly put STEPMuM in at first, and was miffed at needing to change it.

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    4. Anonymous11:16 AM

      Stiff upper lip, try and carry on!

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    5. Anonymous12:23 PM

      100%. No mom's among the Saxe-Coburg Gotha clan

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    6. Anonymous 8:24 AM
      Et al
      In the Times puzzle often a clue about France has the answer is in English especially early in the week. So why would it be wrong to have an answer in American English which is the version most solvers here use.?
      Now if the clue were What may King Charles refer to Camilla as? then stepmum would be the answer.

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    7. Oops Above Charles wife of course. I meant the boys

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  17. Anonymous8:35 AM

    from 1971 - 1991 there was an anamatronic entertainment pizza establishment called bullwinkles in the south sf bay area. https://www.reddit.com/r/SanJose/comments/p90e26/who_remembers_the_bullwinkle_pizza_place_in_santa/

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    1. I remember Bullwinkle’s animatronic show.

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  18. I have great memories of Jim Kweskin and the Jug Band with Maria Muldaur. Much prefer these references to many of the current "cultural" ones.

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    1. Anonymous10:34 AM

      And Geoff ! Great Boston band from the 60’s.

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  19. Did it SKEW easy? I guess it wasn't hard, but some of the answers like JUG BAND were not at all automatic: TITLE (yeah, silly way to clue that), THE CW, ENOS, and NAVI. (I suppose I should know that last one by now, and yet I needed _AVI before recognition kicked in.) So I'd rate it more Medium for a Tuesday.

    I always see EPSOM salts, so for a moment EPSOM salt looked a little weird, as in: a single Epsom salt? On further thought, it should be "salts" that looks a bit weird (as a plural form of an already mass noun). Off hand, I can't think of many other instances of "salts" used as a noun (well, bath salts, but that's almost the same thing, and I guess sailors can be salts as well).

    Rex wondered how many younger people even know what a JUG BAND is. Well, I'm not entirely sure, but a lot of young people don't find "Top 40" music terribly interesting, and many turn to earlier decades and are responsible for various resurgences, so it shouldn't surprise me. Arcade Fire (and particularly with band member Régine Chassagne in view), coming out of Montreal, strikes me as the sort of multi-instrumental band that might dabble in jug band instruments [which the write-up says figure in French-Canadian music] -- they already use the hurdy-gurdy, accordion, and mandolin, so why not? But with media like YouTube and Spotify out there, young people have all sorts of things within easy reach; I find they know a lot.

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  20. Guess I’ll need to go back and read Genesis - not the band lyrics. I only remembered Cain and Abel. Who’s this Seth?

    Couldn’t believe I had a big swath of white squares in the West on a Tuesday. I didn’t see CHEST or MESS immediately and GO___ seemed pretty open, which leaves that bizarre clue for TITLE, which I really enjoy the wry humor of the cluing if that’s what was intended. Throwing in SETH, at least known to me as a 4 letter Biblical name opened it all up for the finish.

    JUGBANDS were in the zeitgeist growing up in the South near Appalachia, where people lean into the old timey stuff.

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  21. Anonymous9:21 AM

    Wouldn't William and Harry refer to Camilla as their STEPMUM instead of -MOM? There are many other examples from the US that could have been used.

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    1. This isn’t to disagree with you but for some reason I doubt whether William or Harry would Camilla either one. Luckily for them they have no real reason to explain her “relationship” to them in introductions. I’ve always kind of thought the stepmother/father designation to be strange when the parent remarries and the children are adults. In this case the ages were 22 and 20.

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  22. Anonymous9:30 AM

    Anon 6:01
    The CW is in fact a broadcast channel everywhere not just by you.
    Desperate to get some NFL programming, they aired Inside the NFL for a couple of years. Not a great fit.

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  23. Found this one very easy, zipped into the middle, saw it was going to be the revealer, and had the good sense to skip it for a while until I got the other themers. Was glad I did, because once I had them filled in JUGBAND was obvious to me. Doesn't hurt that I have a good musical friend who plays in a local group called The Occasional Jug Band. Like some others, I have not seen a stovepipe used as an instrument and like @Lewis, greatly appreciate someone who can really play SPOONS. As much fun to watch as they are to listen to.

    Today's no-knows were THECW and the royal relationship STEPMOM. What @Southside said about TV channels and my interest in the royals in minimal at best.

    Liked your theme and your execution, JS, and I hope to be going to a juggie Jam Session soon. Thanks for all the fun.

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  24. Anonymous9:41 AM

    Did you know that Jennifer Jason LEIGH literally stars in The HatefuL EIGHt? That was the basis for a clue in one of my Mad Dog Cryptics puzzles.

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  25. I may be the rare person who loves jug band music, among other folk, old-timey, jazz, blues, string band music, all of which jug band music takes from and combines in a fascinatingly American way. Memphis Jug Band, Cannons Jug stompers, Dixieland Jug Blowers, send it all my way.
    All that to say as a rare target audience I hated this puzzle. Just some of the most arbitrary clueing I have ever seen. A slog and a half, not fun, and I resented a theme I should be enjoying being made into such an un fun puzzle.

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  26. I've seen a jug band play at the Minnesota State Fair. They had not only a washboard, but a washboard bass. It's so crazy to see the amount of sound one can get with a broomstick with strings on top of an upside-down wash bucket. I hadn't seen the bones played before but a Google search led me to this website with a demonstration of how to play them. Very cool.

    Meanwhile, while solving this, I had trouble with the names. ENOS, THE CW, AROD (yes, I know the name, but as clued and with no crosses, I couldn't just splatz it into the grid.) So not easy for me on a Tuesday. TITLE clued as "On the Road Again," for one was tricky. At least I knew NAVI and LEIGH.

    Thanks, Jacob Stulberg, for an interesting theme.

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  27. JUG BAND makes me think of the Andy Griffith Show. Seemed like Monday difficulty level and a lot of names. Of all the things the Obama daughters may have imagined they’d become known for, I’m betting crossword puzzles was not on their list.

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    1. Yes Briscoe Darling and his sons! (Although I’m pretty sure the sons played “real” instruments…but Briscoe played the jug)

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    2. And they’re a bit of a name KEALOA

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  28. Anonymous10:16 AM

    John Sebastian, anyone?

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    1. Anonymous12:15 PM

      Not only did Sebastian write a song called “Jug Band Music,” but the Lovin’ Spoonful also recorded the same song (“On the Road Again”) that was performed by the Memphis Jug Band in the YouTube video Rex posted.

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    2. I take it you mean The Lovin' Spoonful. There were actually 4 people in that band when Jug Band Music was released c. 1966-67? Sebastian, Zal Yanovsky, Joe Butler, and Steve Boone. I'm guessing JS wrote it, but still ...

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  29. Potato10:26 AM

    Played easy but I finished everything then stared at _UGBAND for 30 seconds thinking it has to be JUGBAND, but that's not a thing! As a 30-something I have no recollection of ever seeing or hearing this term before.

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  30. JUGBAND???
    Is this the best the NYT can do?

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  31. Anonymous10:43 AM

    It was pretty easy today. Spoon out ice cream, possibly. Spoon out soup??? Never

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    1. Anonymous 10:43 AM
      A lot of people commented about
      spooning out soup.
      I may have a ladle somewhere but I always use a very large spoon ( much larger than a soup spoon!). when I SPOON OUT soup into a bowl Don’t even remember how it was acquired but it fits nicely into a shallow drawer.

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  32. Tough sledding as a downs-only solve, starting with 1D, THECW. Actually, I may have once heard of it. I’ve definitely never watched it.

    Some other nits: 50D EPSOM salt. My mum used to soak her feet in a mixture of hot water and EPSOM salts - always with an s on the end. She would tell me it was soothing and I would say, “Yeah, hot water has that effect.” Notice that I called her mum, just like Camilla would expect to be called “vis-a-vis William and Harry.” They’re Brits, you know Mum’s the word.(46D).

    Speaking of mums, or moms, did the mythological couple in the garden have any female offspring? If so, why have I never heard of them? (I almost sorta knew third son SETH at 32D.) How did Cain and Seth manage to procreate? With their unnamed sisters, I suppose. Hmmmm, what would the vicar think of that? This is almost weirder than Greek or Roman mythology.

    Upon completion and review, I did like the theme, but then I used to listen to a lot ofJim Kweskin.

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  33. Gotta run. My son and grandson are arriving from Australia in less than half an hour and i haven't even had coffee yet, But I just wanted to thank @Rex for the video clips this morning. Fun music. I had a short infatuation for jug band music in the late 60s - early 70s and who doesn't love the goofy exuberance of the Barenaked Ladies? I'm off. Lots of grandpa stuff to do. I'll read you all later.

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  34. Easy-medium.

    No WOEs.

    Fat fingered typos-yes, costly erasures-no.

    An off the beaten path/odd theme…I did not know a STOVEPIPE was part of a JUG BAND. Liked it SLIGHTly more than @Rex did.

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  35. "But I do remember that Superman & Lois once existed, and that it aired on an off-brand network."

    Were you thinking of Lois & Clark? The way you worded this makes it seem like you're talking about a much older show -- Superman & Lois is a very recent show, just wrapped up last year. Lois & Clark aired on ABC in the 90s, starring Teri Hatcher and Dean Cain as the titular characters.

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    1. Or possibly thinking of Smallville, which aired on The WB and, later, The CW.

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  36. Anonymous11:48 AM

    You don't need to know what a JUG BAND is in order to solve this one very easily.

    But I do know something about JUG BANDs, having played guitar and jaw harp in a front stoop band in NYC's Lower East Side back in the early 60s. I sat in with the Jim Queskin Jug Band at Club 47 in Cambridge, MA, one night in 1963 -- on bird whistle and slide whistle. It's nice to be able to whistle while you work. I wonder if anyone whistles while working a crossword puzzle.

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  37. I thought this was a fairly straightforward and easy puzzle with a cute theme. While I’m old enough to know the concept and the instruments, I’m not sure I ever knew it was called a JUGBAND. Well. Actually I wasn’t familiar with STOVEPIPE and BONES. Learned some new things today.

    In an effort to mediate (or stick my big nose in) the SPOON nit, a search indicates that both ladles and ice cream scoops are types of SPOONS. My husband is notorious for ignoring the fact that we have an ice cream scoop, and often uses a big flatware tablespoon to dig out his ice cream. In the past, we had flatware that had thin handle spoons and forks, and I often called him the spoon bender.

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  38. old timer12:24 PM

    How could OFL have not pointed out that the doctor said, give him jug band music? It seems to make him feel just fine!

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  39. Anonymous12:32 PM

    Jim Kweskin, anyone? Age 85 and still playing. Great jug band and hugely popular in the '60s.

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  40. Anonymous12:36 PM

    OFL missed a chance at a simpsons clip ! 'lisa, never interupt me (daddy?) during a hoedown'

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  41. No downs-only for me today. I had a brief go at it but I'm too impatient.

    Hands up for hating the ridiculous clue for TITLE. That's like cluing MAN as, say, "Albert Einstein".

    I do get a channel called CW (no "The") but my TV box guide gives no text info at all on any of the channels themselves. It gives me tons of info on the program: where and when made, who stars in it, etc.

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  42. The pileup of vague clues in the west was really not Tuesday-like and made for a slow solve. MAT, APE and TITLE were all not easily sussed. I don't know the Adam family tree well, so I took a guess at SETH and then finally sorted that area.

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  43. Still annoyed at the clue for TITLE. I would have liked "Word with 5A." 5A is SUB.

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  44. Anonymous1:30 PM

    theme really ruined this one. and this is coming from the biggest fan ever of paul williams and emmet otter

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  45. Two or three times a week a drive by a building with "THE CW" on a sign out front. There used to be UHF TV station there, so I figured it must be TV--but had no idea until today. Not that the clue gave me much more.

    I had a vague idea Jim Kwesking was connected to Mel Lyman (he was) so I looked him up, and found this sentence:

    "In the 21st century, he [Kweskin] resumed making music, including tours and recordings with Geoff Muldaur, Meredith Axelrod, and SAMOA Wilson." The constructor missed an opportunity for a great cross-reference there!

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  46. SharonAK2:39 PM

    JJK brought up the answer I objected to. Has anyone ever said they spoon out soup or ice cream? In my experience you scoop ice cream cream (even i =f using a large spoon) and ladle soup.
    What's with the hating on "title" clue. I thought it was fine. Maybe because I had the first three letters so the answer was obvious.

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